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  1. 1 hopefruit2
    June 10, 2013 at 4:33 pm

    Oh my. I couldn’t help but be first after seeing this pic…

  2. June 10, 2013 at 4:34 pm

    Lovely pic and what a relief!

  3. 11 criquet
    June 10, 2013 at 4:34 pm

    Congresspersons who pretend ignorance are full of it.

    • 12 MightyPamela
      June 10, 2013 at 5:03 pm

      Perhaps if any of the ‘lawmakers’ could be bothered to SHOW UP for work, they would not have missed these briefings!? Eh? Say wot!?

  4. 13 hopefruit2
    June 10, 2013 at 4:38 pm

    At some point they will have no choice but to ALL acknowledge being briefed – or risk appearing like dishonest fools…

    • June 10, 2013 at 4:40 pm

      I love that they’re all being busted and not being allowed to whine

    • 15 Ladyhawke
      June 10, 2013 at 4:49 pm


      The Scandal Is Congress, Not the NSA

      By Joshua Foust


      So this latest outcry over expansive surveillance is really the culmination of over a decade of lawmaking. All three branches of government – the court order was approved by a FISA court – and both parties, in two administrations, have agreed consistently to enable and protect the practice.

      An action’s legality does not make it wise. While extensive datasets are useful for doing pattern analysis, there is a legitimate fear that the government is expanding the terms of its surveillance unreasonably. That is an important debate that should have happened publicly already – back in 2001, or 2008, or 2012. Neither Congress nor the White House helped its cause by doing everything so secretively.

      But the place where this broad, legal surveillance can be reined in is Congress, since they passed the laws to begin with. Congress created this mess, and they should be the ones to clean it up.



    • 16 Jovie
      June 10, 2013 at 4:54 pm

      A new movie has come out-
      All the Emo-Progs Men…

      Starring Robert Redford as Ryan Grimm, Tom Cruise as Ari Melber and Brad Pitt as Chris Hayes.

  5. 22 criquet
    June 10, 2013 at 4:40 pm

    Fun tweet :

    • 23 vcprezofan2
      June 10, 2013 at 5:31 pm

      I peeked at Hillary’s profile and note that while she’s following 4 (?) Clinton accounts she’s not following one O or gov account. Hmmmmm. {full disclosure = I’m not a fan of hers tho I give her credit for doing a good job as SoS}

      • 24 hopefruit2
        June 10, 2013 at 5:47 pm

        Neither Bubba nor Chelsea are following O to my knowledge. But that’s THEIR insecurity slip showing, not his.

        • 25 vcprezofan2
          June 10, 2013 at 6:13 pm

          O Hf, I don’t see Mr. President as insecure at all. 😀
          In truth I never gave the other C tweeters a thought, but since she was a member of the O team and since this was her debut, I wondered if in her new tweet presence she would show any loyalty/interest in what the team’s doing.

          • 26 hopefruit2
            June 10, 2013 at 6:22 pm

            I’m guessing her “advisers” are probably telling her to distance herself as much as possible from O. That is some stupid arrogance right there, but it will be short-lived.

            If she DOES decide to run, and gets the nomination (and that’s a huge if), mark my words, both she AND her “advisers” will be begging for O’s endorsement, his campaigning on her behalf, appearance & speech at DNC, AND most importantly, his supremely organized coalition of volunteers, and voters.

            But meanwhile, let her think she’s going to get far by “dissing” O….

            • 27 vcprezofan2
              June 10, 2013 at 6:30 pm

              VC, the angel: To give Hillary the benefit of the doubt – this being her first twitter appearance – maybe she just hasn’t thought of following even one of the .gov links and it will come to her soon.

              VC, that other one: The ‘influx’ of Clintons in twitterland this year may indeed be a laying of foundation and a warm-up for a run. 🙄

  6. 31 Linda
    June 10, 2013 at 4:45 pm

    Someone tell Ryan Grimm there is no such thing as a ” National Referendum ” so his ” We the People ” need to decide is silly….all we get to decide is who we vote for !

    • 32 nathkatun7
      June 10, 2013 at 6:11 pm

      Totally agree with you Linda! I left a comment, in response to yours, on the previous thread about the Grimm’s ignorance of the Constitution. “We the People” set up a system of government that delegated the responsibility of making laws to our elected members of Congress to be signed into law by our elected President. If the laws violate any part of the Constitution, “We the People” set up a judicially to review the laws passed by Congress, and signed into law by the President, to make sure that they don’t violate the Constitution. The only power “We the People” retained under the Constitution was the power to elect members of Congress and the President. We also have the right under the First Amendment to “peaceably assemble” and petition the government for redress. Unlike countries like the United Kingdom, where at times national referendums are held on major issues, under the U.S. Constitution there is no provision for “We the People” to directly make laws. Any journalist who says otherwise is misinformed, and is unnecessarily inflaming people.

  7. 33 Allison
    June 10, 2013 at 4:48 pm

  8. 34 hopefruit2
    June 10, 2013 at 4:48 pm

    I’m now seeing reports (and a picture) that there is a funnel cloud near Canton, Baltimore. Be safe, anyone who resides in this area.

  9. 35 japa21
    June 10, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    • 36 desertflower
      June 10, 2013 at 5:04 pm

      From Randi Rhodes site today:

      Edward Snowden was a private contractor. If we learn nothing else from this whole thing, it’s that national security shouldn’t be farmed out to contractors. It’s bad enough that we have private contractors fighting our wars. I don’t want private companies in charge of our national security. I don’t trust private companies to bill me correctly—I’m not going to trust them to stop terrorism. No more contractors! If someone is working for the NSA, I want them to be vetted by the government—not by the HR department at some company called Booz Allen Hamilton.

      • 37 japa21
        June 10, 2013 at 5:12 pm

        Not only is our security compromised, but, in the case of military contractors, sometimes their actions result in our troops being in more danger.

        And all of this at a lot more cost to the country in terms of $ than if it was done by the government.

      • 38 dotster3
        June 10, 2013 at 5:18 pm

        AGREED! Everything always seems to go to pot when private companies take over some govt./public function. Because——money, greed——no interest in the public good. The most shocking aspect to me of all this latest stuff is that this dude, with a less than stellar resume’, had immediate access to all these vital national security interests. He was employed there for less than 3 months. It’s mind-boggling. Here’s your desk, here’s your computer, here is access to all our global intelligence operations. What???

      • 40 Obama Grandmama
        June 10, 2013 at 10:55 pm

        Another example is the privatization of running prisons where having them at full capacity means more money for the contractors which encourages pushing convictions regardless of guilt.

    • 41 nathkatun7
      June 10, 2013 at 6:13 pm

      You speak TRUTH, sir!

  10. 42 Dudette
    June 10, 2013 at 4:52 pm

  11. June 10, 2013 at 4:55 pm

    Of course, I haven’t caught up and it’s time for me to checkout. But I had a few things I wanted to say before I do. First, you all are amazing! Also, this whole NSA uproar is really bugging me, but for a different reason than it bothers most people. I wrote this in a post, so I’m just going to cut and past it here:

    Americans are only concerned about Constitutional rights and privacy when their own Constitutional rights and privacy are at stake.  Selective citizenship.

    We concern ourselves with the governments right to “spy” under the auspices of homeland security while we have little or no objection to being monitored as we drive and walk down the streets, visit an ATM or shop for groceries. We’ve got GPS and Google Earth; mere citizens can monitor traffic to a website in real time and on the street during rush hour.   Our activities are recorded by dash-cams and cell-phones belonging to total strangers.  GPS systems can unlock your car door from a thousand miles away; tell you which tire is low and when you need an oil change.  Banks, advertisers and promotion companies mine our internet activities all the time, while other companies constantly poll our beliefs.  We lay bare our personal affairs on social networks like Facebook, eHarmony and You Tube, all in an era of Reality TV!  Now people are incensed because the government has their phone number?  Give me a break!

    If you want to read the entire article:

    Also, I wanted to let you know, I’m about to become a whistleblower too. I just looked in a New York phone book and it has thousands and thousands of peoples telephone numbers listed, along with their names and addresses! What the hell?! I’m told they have these in every city in the country. Just can’t get no respect for privacy. 🙂

    See you later!

  12. 46 vitaminlover
    June 10, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    Watching on Marin Bashir about the killer from Santa Monica. Wow he had 1300 rounds of ammunition! Has anyone talked about Sasha Obama’s birthday on any news?

  13. 49 Dudette
    June 10, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    More from the “Theatre of the Absurd” aka Congressional House tomorrow

  14. 50 Linda
    June 10, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    Matthew has the Cheney biographer from the Post on…

    muted it

  15. 53 Jovie
    June 10, 2013 at 5:03 pm

    • 54 nathkatun7
      June 10, 2013 at 6:23 pm

      You see Jovie, under President Obama, It’s now perfectly acceptable to endanger the security of the United States as long as your actions are aimed at destroying President Obama. In other words, destroying President Obama is more important than destroying the country. On this major priority of destroying President Obama, most Republicans, most in the mainstream media, the right wing media, and the holier than thou progressives (emoprogs), are united. Ever since President Obama was elected, this country has been operating on “new rules” of media and political conduct.

    • 56 aquagranny911
      June 10, 2013 at 7:00 pm

      Jovie, my Hubby finished his 20 in the military 30 years ago & there are still things he “will not talk about” because he took an oath!

  16. June 10, 2013 at 5:03 pm

    One more thing. I don’t know how they discovered them, but are you glad law enforcement stopped these people?

    Nashville, Tennessee

    Neo-Nazi National Alliance member Michael Edward Smith was arrested after he was spotted with a semi-automatic rifle pointed at Sherith Israel Pre-School. In Smith’s car, home and storage unit, officials found an arsenal that included a .50-caliber rifle, 10 hand grenades, 13 pipe bombs, binary explosives, semi-automatic pistols, ammunition and an array of military manuals. A large cache of buried weapons, included a shoulder-fired anti-tank rocket, eight cans filled with armor-piercing ammunition, hand grenades, smoke bombs, dynamite fuses and flares.

    Tampa, Florida

    Podiatrist Robert J. Goldstein was arrested after police found more than 15 explosive devices in his home, along with materials to make at least 30 more, homemade C-4 plastic explosives, grenades and mines, a .50-caliber rifle and semi-automatic weapons. Until Goldstein’s arrest, he never had a criminal record.

    Ellensburg, Washington
James D. Brailey was arrested after a raid on his home turned up a machine gun, an assault rifle and several handguns. Brailey was plotting to assassinate Gov. Gary Locke because Locke was the state’s governor and because he was Chinese-American.

    Noonday, Texas

    The FBI raided the home and storage facilities of William Krar and discovered an arsenal that included more than 500,000 rounds of ammunition, 65 pipe bombs and remote-control briefcase bombs, and almost two pounds of deadly sodium cyanide. Also found were components to convert the cyanide into a bomb capable of killing thousands.

    West Hills, California

    Federal agents found, in various storage facilities belonging to John Noster, three pipe bombs, six barrels of jet fuel, five assault weapons, cannon fuse and a large amount of ammunition. Until Noster’s arrest, he never had a criminal record.

    Wexford County, Michigan

    Police arrested Norman Somerville after finding a huge weapons cache on his property that included six machine guns, a powerful anti-aircraft gun, thousands of rounds of ammunition, hundreds of pounds of gunpowder, and an underground bunker. They also found two vehicles on which Somerville planned to mount machine guns as part of a plan to stage a massacre.

    North-Central Pennsylvania

    Six people, most of them tied to the militia movement, were arrested after officials found stockpiles of assault rifles, improvised explosives, homemade weapons and 16 homemade bombs. At another address authorities seized 73 weapons, including a homemade flame thrower, a machine that supposedly shot bolts of electricity, and an improvised cannon.

    Fairbanks, Alaska

    Six members of the antigovernment Alaska Peacemakers Militia, including its leader, Francis Schaeffer Cox were arrested. The group had a large cache of weapons, including a .50-caliber and .30 calibre machine guns, dozens of high-powered assault weapons, grenades, a grenade launcher and thousands of rounds of ammunition.

    • 58 vcprezofan2
      June 10, 2013 at 5:41 pm

      Jeez, Faypax, where did you find all this? It’s enough to make me (more) paranoid about guns and those who own them.

  17. June 10, 2013 at 5:03 pm

    Congrats on 1st hf – stay safe Marylanders!!!


  18. 69 Dudette
    June 10, 2013 at 5:12 pm

    Hi-Five on the photo choice for this thread UT! Thank you for that! 😀

  19. 70 Ladyhawke
    June 10, 2013 at 5:13 pm

    George Monroe ‏@Nupe117 5m


    Snowden didn’t blow the whistle on anything illegal; he illeg exposed something that failed to meet his own standards of propriety. @cspanwj

    Retweeted by Matt Murphy


  20. 71 57andfemale
    June 10, 2013 at 5:14 pm

    Hey, Ms. Chips – Tally’s rant deserved to be FP’d, in my humble opinion.

  21. 73 japa21
    June 10, 2013 at 5:22 pm

    • 74 hopefruit2
      June 10, 2013 at 5:30 pm

      Because they are not really about solutions. Their complaining is driven by a completely different motive. Once the “blame Obama” incentive is removed, none of them really care about this. And that is going to be very obvious, perhaps even sooner than you or I anticipate.

  22. 75 Dudette
    June 10, 2013 at 5:23 pm

  23. June 10, 2013 at 5:25 pm

    THAT is my absolute favorite pic of him.

  24. 80 hopefruit2
    June 10, 2013 at 5:28 pm

    Mark my word…at some point, this Snowden leak is going to really expose the wrong-doing of the Republicans in congress, and both GWB and Bush Senior. Watch how the media will slowly but surely turn against Snowden – and watch how some of the Teabaggers who are now cheering him, will start calling him an “Obama plant.” Then watch how the emoprogs, Libertarians, etc., will just abandon the issue altogether and pretend it never happened…

    Mark my word…by the end of this summer….

    • June 10, 2013 at 7:37 pm

      Yup. The dimwitted plant Greenwald cultivated turned on him with a vengeance because for all of his leaking Snowden confirmed PBO does everything it by the book. Greenwald probably doesn’t realize it yet but he got played. His hatred of the President went up in smoke.

  25. 82 desertflower
    June 10, 2013 at 5:30 pm

    RR just said that Snowden called in sick to work for 3 wks saying that he needed to get help for his epilepsy. WTH? She also said that these private contractors are the ones that give out the security clearances to their employees..these private contactors have GOT to go! Let the Feds hire our veterans directly and pay them all a great salary to do this work!!

    • 83 Bill
      June 10, 2013 at 5:38 pm

      Snowden made more than Congress critters. That must irritate some of them.

      • 84 nathkatun7
        June 10, 2013 at 6:40 pm

        That’s really something! A 29 years-old High School and College drop-out was being paid more than a member of Congress. But, come to think of it, may be that’s not so bad given our do-nothing teabag dominated Congress.

    • 85 57andfemale
      June 10, 2013 at 5:43 pm

      Let me get this straight: the taxpayer not only pays these outrageous salaries (how many post-graduate degree workers would LOVE to earn $200,000/year, rather than this H.S. and community college drop out), but also pays DIVIDENDS to stockholders, on the taxpayer dime. Their goal is profit, whereas if these jobs were returned to civil servants, the goal would be the protection of the United States. Give me my public employees back.

      Let’s remember to ask Hillary if she approved of the privatization on steroids initiated by her husband and Al Gore. Then we had CEO-in-Chief of effing Halliburton to run up wars for his companies, and there was no way PBO could put that genie back in the bottle.

      But let’s have that conversation, and let’s have it now, effing ‘deficit hawks’. You care about what the government spends? How about not turning over security clearances to bottom-line shareholders and give the jobs back to patriots.

      THIS is the scandal.

      • 86 Bill
        June 10, 2013 at 5:59 pm

        The big companies such as Booz Allen are only the tip of the iceberg. There are thousands of smaller companies with 10-100 employees that make up the beltway bandit complex. I have worked on Wall Street and in DC and have no figures to back this up, but I believe except for the top people on Wall Street there is more and easier money to be made in DC.

      • 88 desertflower
        June 10, 2013 at 6:16 pm

        You’re absolutely right that that is the scandal. Our half ass media is missing the entire thing! Just for shits and giggles…(bear with me) let’s try this on. Here’s a guy that has no education to speak of, worked for BA for 3 months, had TS stuff come across his desk….in what planet would this be ok?
        We know the Carlye Group has ties to Bin Laden family and Saudi’s http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/iron-triangle-the-carlyle-group-2/

        We also know that PBO has spoken AT LENGTH recently about scaling back Presidential powers, wanting to close Gitmo, can’t be a country of perpetual wars….We need to LISTEN TO HIM.

        Maybe, the stuff that Snowden saw, in the employ of his private contractor…..blew his mind…not so much from the govt is evil side…but from the other side! The side of the private contractor that has all this power and access and whose ONLY money and contracts came from the US govt! There is a huge revolving door of slop and the American taxpayers are getting fleeced! Not so much by the govt, but these private contractors with the NO BID CONTRACTS (Dudette’s links) It’s a HUGE gravytrain…and certain people don’t want it to stop! Why else would a 29yo with no education and a dream job in Hawaii and a $200,000/yr salary risk everything? He’s never going to have that again. Ever. This is deep down rotten. The media, once again, is not focusing on the big picture…it is mesmerized by the shiny object meant to distract. We need to connect the dots here. Soon.

        • 89 57andfemale
          June 11, 2013 at 9:22 am

          I reposted someone’s tweet yesterday that said (I paraphrase) Snowden said he could have wiretapped anyone. Well, the bank teller can look at my financial records. Is it ‘acceptable?’ If I want to buy a house. Hell, if I want to buy a pair of shoes online I have lost control of privacy of my identity.

          The real scandal is privatization run amok. I wish PBO & Dem’s could go for the jugular on this – we are paying at least DOUBLE for the services that civil service could provide, without profit as the raison d’etre. This is the REAL scandal, about which I’m going to tweet all day.

      • 90 nathkatun7
        June 10, 2013 at 6:54 pm

        The priorities of this country are totally skewed. The typical annual salary of a HS or CC teacher is probably 1/4th-1/3rd of what Snowden, a HS and Coll. drop-out, was being paid. Yet, people like Romney and Scott Walker and the teabaggers, want to get rid of teachers because they cost the tax payers too much money.

  26. 91 desertflower
    June 10, 2013 at 5:35 pm


    Private contractors may be more expensive than government employees. Many former government employees make the switch into private contracting, which can serve to drive up the amount they wind up costing the American taxpayer. A 2007 report to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence found that the average government employee working as an intelligence analyst cost $126,500, while the same work performed by a contractor would cost the government an average $250,000 including overhead. The total annual budget of the intelligence community is itself secret; only the top line is reported to the public. For Fiscal Year 2014, the Obama administration requested $48.2 billion for the National Intelligence Program, encompassing “six Federal departments, the Central Intelligence Agency, and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.” Of that amount, according to a 2007 article, an amazing 70 percent goes towards private contractors.
    There are thousands of companies in the game. Of the more than one thousand contracting firms competing for federal dollars, Booz Allen Hamilton is just one of the largest, earning $1.3 billion, 23 percent of their total revenue, from intelligence contracts over the last fiscal year. Booz Allen shares that tier with names like Northrup Grumman and Science Applications International Corporation. It also includes companies like Lockheed Martin, which in addition to selling airplanes and missiles to the government, also provides staffers to man the programs the various departments set up.

    Private contractors cost about twice as much as govt employees….

  27. 92 Jovie
    June 10, 2013 at 5:35 pm

    OMG! The Patriots just signed Tim Tebow.


  28. 97 Linda
    June 10, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    SAN ANTONIO — San Antonio police have arrested a gunman in a shooting at Fort Sam Houston.

    A San Antonio police officer says police arrested a gunman Monday afternoon and turned him over the military authorities. The officer was speaking anonymously because the person was not authorized to speak to the media.

    Kathy Salazar, a staff member in the base public affairs office, said the Fort Sam Houston was on lock down. She could not immediately offer additional details.

    A San Antonio television station showed one person taken away in an ambulance, but it was not immediately clear who was injured or how.

    The base includes the U.S. Army’s top hospital and the headquarters for its North America Command.



    So the ” good guys ” with the guns could not stop the ” bad guy ” with the gun ?

    • 98 aquagranny911
      June 10, 2013 at 7:10 pm

      Domestic dispute involving a soldier maybe? Probably would not have made the news except for the Ft Sam connection.

  29. 99 57andfemale
    June 10, 2013 at 5:44 pm

    • 100 anniebella
      June 10, 2013 at 6:34 pm

      I have businesses calling me and I don’t know how the hell they got my number. So much for privacy.

  30. 101 dotster3
    June 10, 2013 at 5:46 pm

    I agree it was an “evil, horrible thing to do”———the sick, demented person who called in a threat to students and staff at an elementary school in Newtown, Ct. today. Parents described getting messages that all schools were on lock down as a nightmare, everything still so raw there 6 months after the horrible tragedy. I don’t understand the mentality of someone who would do this. We have way too many sickos walking among us.


  31. June 10, 2013 at 5:47 pm


  32. 108 57andfemale
    June 10, 2013 at 5:49 pm

    Okay. This is funny:

  33. 109 dotster3
    June 10, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    Did Tweety just say he learned about domestic violence from watching “Sleeping With the Enemy”? Ay yi yi yi yi.

    • 110 57andfemale
      June 10, 2013 at 6:02 pm

      Dear dotster, didn’t you hear? NCIS replaces civics lessons now on how to catch bad guys (I believe they use those uber-private phone calls. But then again, they only get the records of the bad guys). And one lone lab tech knows all there is to know about absolutely everything forensic and computer-y and can match DNA and fingerprints and facial recognition before the next McDonald’s ad.

      That’s how law enforcement works, isn’t it?

      Hey don’t get me wrong. I watch NCIS re-runs. But I know it’s FICTION.

      I remember someone on the street being interviewed when Schwarzenegger was running for governor. “He’s gonna kick some butt!”. Uh huh – as he goes to get his nails polished in the swanky trailer, and where just the right about of oil is applied to his chest to look like sweat.

      Way too many Americans have gotten way too dumb.

    • 111 Layla
      June 10, 2013 at 6:10 pm

      yep, he just fell out of the box of “Coco Puffs”

  34. 112 dotster3
    June 10, 2013 at 6:01 pm

    Creepy—-the ground keeps crumbling beneath our feet…..

  35. 113 nospin
    June 10, 2013 at 6:01 pm

    Sen. Al Franken said he was not surprised by NSA revelations Video

    ” I can assure you that this isn’t about spying on the American people. The data the security agency has collected have kept Americans safe”.


  36. 114 hopefruit2
    June 10, 2013 at 6:01 pm



    • June 10, 2013 at 6:13 pm

      • 116 nospin
        June 10, 2013 at 6:23 pm

        Bobfr – I think you called it first when GG sent the tweet. He was an idiot to admit what he was doing just so he could claim credit for this brouhaha. Now he sees all the dominoes falling down and he is trying to cut loose. Good catch.

      • June 10, 2013 at 6:50 pm

        Poitras has an axe to grind. From wiki:

        She co-directed, produced, and shot her 2003 documentary. Flag Wars, about gentrification in Columbus, Ohio. It received a Peabody Award, Best Documentary at both the 2003 South by Southwest (SXSW) Film Festival and the Seattle Gay and Lesbian Film Festival, and the Filmmaker Award at the Full Frame Documentary Film Festival. The film also launched the 2003 PBS POV series. It was nominated for a 2004 Independent Spirit Award and a 2004 Emmy Award.[2]

        Poitras’ other films include Oh say can you see… (2003) and Exact Fantasy (1995).[2] Her 2006 film My Country, My Country about life for Iraqis under U.S. occupation was nominated for an Academy Award. Her 2010 film The Oath, about two Yemenis men caught up in America’s War on Terror, won the “Excellence in Cinematography Award for U.S. Documentary” at the 2010 Sundance film festival.[4]

        The two films are part of a trilogy. The third part will focus on how the War on Terror increasingly focuses on Americans through surveillance, covert activities and attacks on whistleblowers. Poitras says her work has been hampered by constant harassment by border agents during more than three dozen border crossings into and out of the United States. She has been detained for hours and interrogated and agents have seized her computer, cell phone and reporters notes and not returned them for weeks. Once she was threatened with being refused entry back into the United States.[5] In response to a Glenn Greenwald article about this, a group of film directors started a petition to protest the government’s actions against her.[6] In April 2012 Poitras was interviewed about surveillance on Democracy Now and called elected leaders behavior “shameful.”[7]


    • 120 dotster3
      June 10, 2013 at 6:15 pm

      Interesting that he deleted that tweet—–think that little comment slipped out without thinking—–it was an ooops moment, for sure. Hope it results in troub for our “good buddy” GG. That would be delicious.

    • 121 4morefor44
      June 10, 2013 at 6:19 pm

      seems like greenwald is purposely trying to turn himself into a bradley manning/martyr character. he’s gone to extraordinary lengths to create this non-story and coordinate with the “the news” and their obama-hate fests each night called “newscasts.” greenwald is probably hoping he gets arrested. would be perfect for him…the all-white online progressive internet could then really freak-out on that uppity dark-hued president they hate on constantly 24/7. just in time for the 2014 midterms too. divide and conquer is the scott walker/koch brothers and their predecessors plan from the beginning.

      • 122 hopefruit2
        June 10, 2013 at 6:26 pm

        Unfortunately for Greenwald, people won’t be nearly as quick to give him the kind of sympathy that they (initially) afforded Manning. Greenwald is a grown man in his mid-40’s, and if nothing else, his hatred of PBO is pretty obvious. Furthermore, Greenwald actually SUPPORTED GWB – at a time when many people did NOT. Manning had no such baggage, and at 23-25, it’s much easier to rationalize silly behavior as youthful indiscretion, than it is at 46.

    • 123 aquagranny911
      June 10, 2013 at 7:15 pm

      GG is muy estupido! I have seen screen shots of those tweets. Nothing is ever “Lost” on the intertubes!

  37. 125 Dudette
    June 10, 2013 at 6:08 pm

    Journos without a clue, part deux (too bad they don’t adopt the President approach)…

  38. 134 Ladyhawke
    June 10, 2013 at 6:21 pm

    OH DEAR …….

    Snowden Helped Guardian Reporter With Secure Communication System


    Before he handed over classified Power Point slides that detailed a sweeping National Security Agency surveillance program, Edward Snowden helped the Guardian’s Glenn Greenwald create a secure means of communication, which Greenwald was unfamiliar with, the Huffington Post reports:
    Snowden then approached Laura Poitras, a filmmaker and a colleague of Greenwald, with the story, according to the Post.


    More details here ….


  39. 135 Ladyhawke
    June 10, 2013 at 6:25 pm


    Andrew Kaczynski ‏@BuzzFeedAndrew 17m


    Whoa. RT @KateNocera: Sen. Feinstein just told reporters that she won’t call Snowden a whistleblower. “what he did was an act of treason”

    Retweeted by Jeff Gauvin


    • 136 hopefruit2
      June 10, 2013 at 6:31 pm


      More is being revealed….

    • 137 nathkatun7
      June 10, 2013 at 7:30 pm

      Way to go Sen. Feinstein! I am definitely sending my Senator a thank you note! Enough is enough! There is absolutely no need to sugar-coat what Snowden and Greenwald did. They did not expose any illegality by the government. There were no privacy violations of Americans. Rather, Snowden, Greenwald, along with their media enablers, compromised the tactics used to keep our people safe. They put their hatred of President Obama above the Security of the United States. I bet you those planning to commit acts of terror against our people are now busy devising schemes (thanks to all these leaks) on how to bypass the NSA system of detection. No one elected Greenwald or Snowden, or the Washington Press, or the Pundits, to decide the policy on how to protect the country. If Glenn Greenwald wants to change the NSA policy he should run for Congress or for President. Journalists must not be allowed to fabricate news and tell lies just because they don’t like particular govt. policies.

  40. 138 Ladyhawke
    June 10, 2013 at 6:30 pm

    U.S. Senators: Edward Snowden Committed An “Act Of Treason”

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/senators-say-edward-snowden-is-a-traitor-2013-6#ixzz2Vr55RlO9

    • 139 nospin
      June 10, 2013 at 6:42 pm

      good. it is what it is

    • 140 nospin
      June 10, 2013 at 6:45 pm

      “There was some confusion on Twitter this evening: Was it Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) who called Edward Snowden’s leaks about the National Security Agency an “act of treason,” or was it Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.)?

      It was both. ”

      Great get Ladyhawke

    • 141 nathkatun7
      June 10, 2013 at 7:35 pm

      Bravo to both Sens. Feinstein and Nelson!

  41. 142 hopefruit2
    June 10, 2013 at 6:36 pm

    This may have been posted on previous threads today – but in case it wasn’t, or if you missed it, here’s another shot. This is so funny. PBO reading our email…

  42. June 10, 2013 at 6:36 pm

  43. 145 hopefruit2
    June 10, 2013 at 6:38 pm

  44. 146 dotster3
    June 10, 2013 at 6:39 pm

    “Profit motive”—–just heard that on the news—-the problem with outsourcing our national security operations. Privatizing—–private contractors—–profit motive—–there’s the problem.

  45. 147 Obama Grandmama
    June 10, 2013 at 11:33 pm

    Am currently watching my Tivoed Lawrence O’Donnell interviewing Glenn Greenwald and Lawrence is expressing no fear about NSA information collection since many private companies already do that. Even bank tellers have the capability to check into your private info. Good interview!

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