This and That

Text of the President’s remarks here






Supporters engulf Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) during a rally at the Xcel Energy Center June 3, 2008 in St. Paul, Minnesota. Obama clinched the Democratic presidential nomination following primaries in South Dakota and Montana



Michael Cohen (The Guardian): What makes the Republican position on Medicaid expansion truly sick – In their ideological vendetta against Obamacare, red states seem more willing to let low-income people die than get healthcare

If you want to get a sense of the enfeebled and wanton state of the modern Republican party, there really is no better place to start than on the issue of Medicaid, the federal program that provides healthcare coverage for the poor.

In a desperate effort to undermine the law they hate, Obamacare, Republican governors and state legislatures in half the states have either rejected or intend to reject a key part of the president’s signature domestic initiative – namely, billions in federal dollars to extend Medicaid coverage to their poorest citizens. While Republicans argue they are acting out of high-minded fiscal rectitude, the reality speaks to something else altogether – petulance and hyper-partisanship.

…. Republicans are searching for ways to rehabilitate their image. It ain’t gonna be easy so long as they operate as though saving money – and keeping their ideological purity intact – is more important than reducing suffering and saving lives.

Full post here


Jonathan Cohn (New Republic): If you want to know why we can’t have an honest debate about Obamacare, all you have to do is pay attention to some recent news from California – and the way a highly distorted version of it, by one irresponsible writer, has rippled through the conservative press.

More here



Michael Hastings provided endless comedy on Twitter today while desperately trying to sell his book to Greenwald Groupies.

(Yes, it’s a Koch/BuzzFeed special – GOPolitico old-boy/shill Ben Smith was so impressed with his work at Rolling Stones and assorted publications he reckoned he was a perfect fit for his Koch project)

So, Hastings thinks AG Eric Holder = Rumsfeld.


As Oliver Willis put it:

PS Hastings should probably try to educate himself on Rumsfeld’s ‘achievements’ and those of his pals in the GWB administration – his partner might be able to help him, after all, she served under GWB, was the speechwriter for Condoleezza Rice and after joining the National Security Council, worked on press and communications strategy for ….. Afghanistan and Iraq.

It’s not Hastings’ fault, of course, who his partner worked for.



But it’s Obama’s FAULT!!!!

NPR: Rebuffing President Barack Obama’s latest plea, House Republicans on Monday proposed keeping open the military-run prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, by barring the administration from transferring its terror suspects to the United States or a foreign country such as Yemen.

More here







WSJ: Government projections show that in September, for the first time in almost two decades, the U.S. will produce more oil than it imports. Nor will that be a fluke; the trend is expected to continue, and domestic oil production is expected to outstrip imports by an increasingly wide margin




So, here we are, Bradley Manning, Hero™

MSNBC: …. During the government’s opening argument, Captain Joe Morrow issued a blistering indictment of the 25-year-old—on trial for larceny, aiding the enemy, and violating the Espionage Act, among other charges. Morrow said that this case is about what happens when “arrogance meets access to sensitive information,” and that Manning put his fellow soldiers at risk when he used his military training “to gain the notoriety he craved”…

…. Morrow showed a log from Manning’s personal computer on May 11, 2010, showing that he downloaded a database with the personal information of every service member in Iraq – more than 74,000 in total. Morrow said that the government will show that by downloading this information, and turning it over for public release, Manning was providing foreign intelligence services with an effective phone book. He also cited communication found during the raid that killed bin Laden, in which the al-Qaida leader asked for this database.

Manning knew that the enemy would access this information, said Morrow…..

More here

We can only assume, none of the Greenwald Groupies had family serving in Iraq.





There is so much news today, can’t keep up – will have more in the morning


UT, thank you endlessly again for today’s post on AG Holder, it was utterly brilliant.

130 Responses to “This and That”

  1. 10 vcprezofan2
    June 3, 2013 at 7:18 pm

    Thanks! Fast work, LL.

    • 11 vcprezofan2
      June 3, 2013 at 7:19 pm

      And good follow-up work there, Tally!

    • June 3, 2013 at 7:20 pm

      Thanks VC! And I STILL haven’t gotten a chance to look at your notes. Summertime is busy time for us children’s librarians.

      • 13 vcprezofan2
        June 3, 2013 at 7:31 pm

        I’ve got to learn to be brief (in my ‘other’ life, maybe). 😉 I can definitely understand that summertime busyness, with parents signing up for story time, and book club, and arts and crafts, and anything that will get them some time away from the kids. 😛

  2. June 3, 2013 at 7:19 pm

    Honestly, at some point this week I’ll have time to write. Actually, might write something for the blog after I’m off the desk.

  3. June 3, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    Great evening lineup. Been looking forward to today’s news

  4. 16 anniebella
    June 3, 2013 at 7:25 pm

    That is a beautiful picture of POTUS and CoS McDonough walking, the lawn, the trees.

  5. 17 hopefruit2
    June 3, 2013 at 7:28 pm

    Love this:

    • 18 carolyn
      June 3, 2013 at 7:32 pm

      I remember that night! I was thrilled beyond words. I’m still thrilled beyond words that he is STILL our president!

    • 19 dotster3
      June 3, 2013 at 7:36 pm

      It was indeed an extraordinary moment, the first of many to come.

    • 21 utaustinliberal
      June 3, 2013 at 8:11 pm

      Wonderful memories.

    • 22 forus50
      June 3, 2013 at 10:02 pm

      I remember it with mixed feelings because his opponent was stepping all over his victory with her non-concession speech or whatever it was. arghhh. Oh well, it all turned out GuuuuuRRRRRRRRRREAAAAAAAAAT! 🙂

    • 23 nathkatun7
      June 4, 2013 at 12:00 am

      Looking back, it feels so good to remember how wrong the so called media pundits were about President Obama. They said he couldn’t be nominated by the Democratic Party, and he was. They said he couldn’t be elected President of the United States, and he was. And they said he couldn’t be re-elected and he was. I think part of their belligerence and hatred of the President has a great deal to do with the fact that the majority of Americans do not take them seriously.

  6. 24 Bill
    June 3, 2013 at 7:41 pm

    On the Kudlow Report (CNBC) John Harwood just brought up David Plouffe’s tweet as an example of the WH being nervous and going after Issa. He made no mention of Issa calling Jay Carney a “paid liar” and that Plouffe’s tweet was a response. I become more disgusted with the MSM everyday.

    • June 3, 2013 at 8:09 pm

      I’ve mentioned before that I’m not prone to conspiracy theories (i.e., Occam’s Razor [simplest explanation with fewest assumption is the best explanation]), but I searched WaPo’s Tom Toles archives, and there’s a gap between Jan 4, 2003 through August 23, 2008.

      And IRAQ is not one of the categories. Gosh, what was THE U.S. story 2003 through mid-2008????

      Latching onto 57andFemale’s tweet on Comey being instrumental in pursuing “Plamegate:”

      Here’s 57’s tweet:

    • 26 anniebella
      June 3, 2013 at 9:04 pm

      John Harwood is a two bit journalists, any we know these two bit journalists suppose to be mad with the WH so all they are doing is spreading B.S. The WH didn’t go after Issa, Issa have been after the WH for many years, spreading lies and if Harwood was any kind of journalists he would tell both side and not pick a side. I’m proud of David Plouffe and what he tweeted. What Plouffe said was the truth, what Issa says are lies, someone need to remind Harwood of that.

      • 27 Puddin'
        June 3, 2013 at 10:28 pm

        I agree with you anniebella…Issa called Jay Carney a “paid liar”. Issa started and Plouffe finished it…”Chicago style”. I love it!

        • 28 nathkatun7
          June 4, 2013 at 12:11 am

          Sorry, Issa had absolutely no basis for calling Jay Carney a “paid liar.” However David Plouffe’s tweet was absolutely based on facts. Issa was indicted for “grand theft auto.” He was also suspected of setting fire for insurance fraud. This is not at all about the so called “Chicago style.”

  7. June 3, 2013 at 7:41 pm

  8. June 3, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    • June 3, 2013 at 7:46 pm

      Evening LP, thank you again for all your work yesterday!

      • June 3, 2013 at 7:48 pm

        Evening Chips, was a pleasure….missed you all day….is all well on the homefront?

        • June 3, 2013 at 7:54 pm

          All’s great LP, I usually work on Sundays but thought I just had to go out for an hour or three yesterday …. ooooh, about six-ish later I got home.

          Hope all’s good with you, thank you again for all your help and wonderful posts, this place would grind to a halt with you, UT and the rest of the blog tyrants!

  9. June 3, 2013 at 7:45 pm

  10. June 3, 2013 at 7:51 pm

    Good Evening TOD.

    Just read this news and just wanted to share it for music lovers out there.

    Damn, aside from being a great singer in her own right, I remember loving her and her band the Dap Kings (who Amy Winehouse used as her back up band on her breakout debut). If you’ve never heard Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings ya’ll are missing out.

    Singer Sharon Jones diagnosed with cancer, cancels album

    • June 3, 2013 at 7:51 pm

      One of my fav Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings songs. Sounds like a cool new age version of an old James Brown song doesn’t it.

      Sharon Jones & The Dap Kings – 100 Days, 100 Nights

  11. June 3, 2013 at 7:51 pm

    What’s up everyone? Had a good Monday?

    LOL!! Who has good Mondays?

  12. June 3, 2013 at 7:51 pm

  13. June 3, 2013 at 8:00 pm

    Chips & UT – much gratitude for the BRILLIANT threads, today!!!!

    That #GOP Re-branding could not be going better ….. FOR US!!! 🙂


  14. 67 carolyn
    June 3, 2013 at 8:01 pm

    I loved this…..Peggy Noonan almost choked on her pearls, she clutched them so hard!!!!

  15. 68 Nena20409
    June 3, 2013 at 8:02 pm

    Jun 3rd, 2008 at the Xcell Center 😉

    Grandma makes Tutu was featured.

    • 69 Nena20409
      June 3, 2013 at 8:06 pm

      The Whole Speech June 3, 2008

      In St. Paul, Minnesota.

      • June 3, 2013 at 8:21 pm

        Worth every single wild, frustrating, crazy, exhilarating, hopeful moment. This entire incredible journey together is one of the highlights of my life.

  16. 71 amk for obama
    June 3, 2013 at 8:04 pm

  17. 74 hopefruit2
    June 3, 2013 at 8:07 pm

    OH Boy…apparently Hayes is defending his hero Manning…

  18. 80 Jovie
    June 3, 2013 at 8:08 pm

    But but but Tweety says nobody is in charge of the WH and there is no Central command no body is in charge everybody is afraid if the President because they don’t think he has their Backs and then Tweety says I call them as I see them and…

    • 81 Nena20409
      June 3, 2013 at 8:13 pm

      Hmm? Like that ad said: You have to see them to call them…..Tweety is in that category. He should borrow my Four-eyes to enable him so that he Can see Clearly.

  19. June 3, 2013 at 8:12 pm

    So my old buddy Mona showed her racist colors today, huh?

    After she visited here, she tweeted this:

    Her assumption that I write here is one of the nicest compliments I’ve gotten in a while.

    Here’s the scoop: I used to hang out at The Guardian when Michael Tomasky blogged there. There was a group of us that got to know each other there – Republicans, emos, blue dogs. I was the lone Obamabot in the group. Then Tomasky left and after awhile Greenwald showed up. So I kept hanging out there. The regular emos were THRILLED that GG was posting there. But after awhile – between Glenn’s shenanigans and the idiot ruthlessness of his sycophants like Mona – even the emos couldn’t take it anymore and abandoned ship.

    Needless to say, I had a few run-ins with Mona. Even the emos who were pissed at me for being an Obamabot were offended by how she handled those confrontations. She’s a real piece of work!

  20. 89 Nena20409
    June 3, 2013 at 8:18 pm

    Ms Chips mentioned Disco on this thread. Well, just one, please……. 😉 from the late Donna Summer: I Feel Love. Than you 🙂

  21. 90 utaustinliberal
    June 3, 2013 at 8:23 pm

  22. 91 prettyfoot58
    June 3, 2013 at 8:24 pm



    just think how this would have turned out if Manning were of the Muslim faith…I think giving government secrets to the enemy during a time of war is Treason…

    • June 3, 2013 at 8:37 pm

      Surprised by SW on this. It’s not as if Manning has been in prison for 20 years – he was arrested in May 2010. The guy releases the personal information of every member of the military in Iraq, people who had absolutely nothing to do with America being there, and he should be released now? Hmm. Dunno. Although, it’s pretty obvious he was screwed up and manipulated by Assange and his crew. But, no, I’d give some more time in prison.

    • June 3, 2013 at 8:39 pm

      I totally disagree with him. Manning did some very dangerous stuff, including aiding and abetting the enemy in a time of war. He deserves the punishment.

    • 94 hopefruit2
      June 3, 2013 at 8:46 pm

      Sorry Steve, but too many of you want to treat Manning as if he were a 12-yr old playing a “ring-the-doorbell-and-run” prank and not a 25-yr old adult who has knowingly broken the law and in doing so has endangered the welfare of others. Chips I agree with you that 3 yrs in jail is not “too long” considering the gravity of what he did.

    • June 3, 2013 at 8:53 pm

      What Mr Manning may be shown, beyond all reasonable doubt, to have accomplished is aiding the enemy during war time. If so, duration of jail time is the least of his problems. They shoot folk for that type of crime.

      • 96 0388jojothecat
        June 3, 2013 at 9:38 pm

        Listened to Thom Hartmann over the weekend and he was reading a letter from a whistle blower in the CIA that leaked the Bush Administration’s torture program and he leaked the names of CIA agents. This guy is still sitting in jail. No one else went to jail except this one guy.

    • 97 anniebella
      June 3, 2013 at 9:27 pm

      That’s great, less tell that to all the folks in prison who broke the law, you been in there long enough so today you all go free.

  23. 98 Jovie
    June 3, 2013 at 8:30 pm

    High speed rail in California may not get off the ground-


    Just to much powerful opposition!

  24. June 3, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    Turkey illustrates the power of social media:


  25. June 3, 2013 at 8:42 pm

    Blog tyrant notice: finally found some time to write. New piece will be up tomorrow. And because it’s been a while, I’ll have a night owl chatty thing for tonight.

  26. June 3, 2013 at 8:45 pm

  27. 108 Jovie
    June 3, 2013 at 8:53 pm

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  30. 111 Jovie
    June 3, 2013 at 9:00 pm

    Ecuador huh?

  31. 112 japa21
    June 3, 2013 at 9:02 pm

    Okay, I freely admit I am a wuss and will cry about almost anything. Brian’s Song? Sobbing. Son’s weddings? Sniffling through them. While reading a book and something bad happens to a charcter I like? My wife looks at me and asks what the heck is the matter with me. But this , really got to me. Both the picture and the story.

  32. 118 japa21
    June 3, 2013 at 9:05 pm

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  34. 120 nathkatun7
    June 3, 2013 at 9:11 pm

    I feel so sad today about the passing of Senator Frank Lautenberg of NJ. He was one of the most honest, principled, down to earth U.S Senators. Like Teddy Kennedy, Frank Lautenberg never allowed his wealth to blind him to the needs of ordinary Americans. My thoughts are with his family. R. I. P. Sen. Lautenberg.!

    • June 3, 2013 at 9:17 pm

      In honor of the LAST WWII Veteran in our esteemed SENATE, Democrats must be reminded of this from Sen. Lautenberg, and ADOPT it going forward into 2014, as a rallying cry in his honor:

      • 122 anniebella
        June 3, 2013 at 9:31 pm

        If one of the parties is shameless (the Republicans), the other party cannot afford to be spineless ( hear that Harry Reid).

  35. June 3, 2013 at 9:14 pm

  36. 124 amk for obama
    June 3, 2013 at 9:16 pm

    • June 3, 2013 at 9:22 pm

      GM, AMK!

      I posted this in response to Jovie upthread, but I think it bears repeating: corporate interests only want the status quo.

      A 550-kmh train in California (about the same size as Japan) would mean less than a 2 hour trip between the two most productive cities on the U.S. Pacific. So of course, GOP and corporate interests are against. Just as teabaggers are against improving our children’s public education.

      • 126 amk for obama
        June 3, 2013 at 9:56 pm

        Rest of the world is moving on towards 22nd century while ‘murka is moving back to 18th century

  37. 127 Jovie
    June 3, 2013 at 9:17 pm

  38. 128 amk for obama
    June 3, 2013 at 9:18 pm

  39. 129 nathkatun7
    June 3, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    Thank you Cipsticks for yet another marvelous post!

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