Night Owl Chat – David Bowie Edition

Really, what can be said of the Thin White Duke which hasn’t been said before? His ability to remold himself for different times and tastes is nothing short of amazing, all the while remaining true to his own artistic vision. If you haven’t listened to his new album, please do so; you won’t regret it. So, for you night owls, some Bowie.

Prime 80s Bowie – “Let’s Dance”

Glam Bowie – “Ziggy Stardust”

Bowie at the height of his powers – “Heroes”

The original video for “Space Oddity”

Part 2 of the Major Tom saga – “Ashes to Ashes”

Finally, Bowie’s mediation on time from his new album – “Where Are We Now?”

This is your night owl open thread.

194 Responses to “Night Owl Chat – David Bowie Edition”

  1. 1 Betsy
    May 16, 2013 at 10:33 pm

    Hello everyone.

  2. May 16, 2013 at 10:35 pm

    Jay Carney was OUTSTANDINGLY Fantastic on LOD just now. His eloquence and breadth of knowledge of the issues is outstanding. And he
    denfended our President very well. It also helped that he was being interviewed by an intelligent person …LOD, as opposed to the bi-polar spitting machine Chris Matthews. TODers you should try to watch that section of Lawrence. Maybe Chips will post on FP tomorrow. It’s worth it.

    • May 16, 2013 at 10:56 pm

      Jay was able in a clear and concise manner answer all of LOD questions. Well done Jay, well done.

    • 12 anniebella
      May 16, 2013 at 11:11 pm

      I email Matthews today and told him I think he has a split personality. I told him to try to listen to Lawrence O’Donnell, the only one who is acting like he knows what he is talking about, because he sure doesn’t.

      • May 16, 2013 at 11:36 pm

        Anniebella Matthews will never listen to anyone because of that huge ego he has. In his eyes he is always right and he knows everything therefore what he said should be followed at all times. There is something in his coffee because that man is acting like a lunatic these days and it is getting worse

      • 14 vitaminlover
        May 16, 2013 at 11:43 pm

        Anniebella, Matthews is such a mental coward and he is so fretful about every little thing that President Obama MIGHT do wrong. He thinks he can help him and that he knows more than our President. He feels it’s his duty to be on top of everything Obama. Little does he know is that Our Beloved President has this and does know what he is doing and that he will ALWAYS come up smelling like a rose. Pres. is very, very shrewd, wise and smart and Tweety can’t get his head around this.

  3. 15 carolyn
    May 16, 2013 at 10:36 pm

    LL your musical tastes run the gamut…..so wide, so diverse. But, since I love alliteration, and love classifying, I think I’ll call your range….
    From Bach to Bowie.

    • May 16, 2013 at 10:38 pm

      Funny you should mention that. When I was a kid, my mom asked exasperatedly: “How can you listen to Michael Jackson when you listen to Mozart?” Yeah, that’s a running theme in my life.

  4. May 16, 2013 at 10:36 pm

    Congrats Betsy for #1.

  5. May 16, 2013 at 10:42 pm

    LL your musical contributions are always varied and uplifting. Thank you.

    • May 16, 2013 at 10:45 pm

      My cousin tried to teach me guitar, and I just couldn’t be bothered. It’s a regret I carry with me.

      • 22 desertflower
        May 16, 2013 at 10:51 pm

        I remember “a cute new guy” moved into my neighborhood when I was in Jr High. He lived up the street from me and a bunch of us would hang out together. I mentioned that I would love to learn how to play the guitar…BIG MISTAKE 🙂 I still can’t play. Paid more attention to him than playing…I regret that. He turned out to be a jerk. ( is it stupid that I even remember his name?)…even more, I wish I knew how to play the piano….

  6. 24 Ladyhawke
    May 16, 2013 at 10:46 pm

    Heritage letter to Republicans on Capitol Hill: don’t legislate, just scandalize Obama


    • 25 jackiegrumbacher
      May 17, 2013 at 8:00 am

      LH, this letter needs to be seen far and wide and should be the subject of every talk show. The Heritage Foundation is telling the Congress to ignore it’s constitutionally directed duty and to spend tax payer money destroying a duly elected president. This is SCANDAL of the first order! The Senate needs to hold a hearing on this issue and have a press conference about it. It’s an absolute dereliction of duty on the part of our bought and paid for media to ignore this treasonous letter from Heritage. Imagine if a Democratic think tank had sent such a letter to the Senate. You would hear screaming from the rafters 24 hours a day.

  7. 26 Betsy
    May 16, 2013 at 10:48 pm

    I have been enjoying a a wonderful bottle of Pinot Gris by Buena Vista Winery, Sonoma, CA.

  8. May 16, 2013 at 10:54 pm

    Congrats on 1st Betsy.

    Thank you, once again, LL – another great music thread 🙂

    #TrustBarack Because He Cares A LOT

  9. May 16, 2013 at 11:01 pm

    LL how can you leave out the “Space Oddity” homage from the ISS…….re:Bowie

  10. May 16, 2013 at 11:05 pm

    President Obama is truly empathetic ….

  11. May 16, 2013 at 11:06 pm

    Another indictment of the media, whenever the Turkish PM spoke they cut away, ” to analyze ” the press conference.

    • 34 99ts
      May 16, 2013 at 11:16 pm

      No other media group in the world does this (they may not cover something at all, but not this partisan approach) – what a disgrace they are

      • May 16, 2013 at 11:18 pm

        It’s pathetic..did you watch the 2 minute video? Then the idiots would cut back to president, and we have no clue as to what the question he was asked was….

        • May 16, 2013 at 11:20 pm

          One more comment before I really turn in.

          I remember watching Mikhail Gorbachev’s speech to the first Party Congress to take place since his assumption of power, in I think 1986. It was carried live on CNN. It’s an indelible memory from my teen years, and I think back on it now in amazement. Nothing like that would happen today on our cable news outlets. It’s a damning indictment of our times.

          (And I think I have the kernel of a new essay for the blog.)

          • May 16, 2013 at 11:24 pm

            GN LL….rest easy, the keyboard awaits!

          • 38 99ts
            May 17, 2013 at 2:02 am

            Imagine if President Obama was in another country and the broadcaster (e.g. BBC) cut away when he spoke – the US media would be outraged – just outraged. The republicans have wiped out the media – all it is now is a water carrying disaster – that blames the intertubes for its demise.

        • 39 99ts
          May 17, 2013 at 2:00 am

          I did – couldn’t understand who said what when – other than the ignorant newscasters – any of ’em – all of ’em

    • May 16, 2013 at 11:31 pm

      So last night Isreal leaks it plans on striking Syria again, to NYT, and today we know why (Russia IS NOW sending cruise missiles)……but the media cuts away from the PM who probably has the most influence in this region.

    • 41 jacquelineoboomer
      May 17, 2013 at 12:13 am

      • 42 jacquelineoboomer
        May 17, 2013 at 12:15 am

        I’ve been P/O’d at that disrespect and ignorance all day!

        • 43 nathkatun7
          May 17, 2013 at 12:44 am

          JOB, on the one hand, I don’t blame for being “P/O’d,” on the other hand, I greatly admire you and others here for having strong stomachs to watch/ listen to all the BS being spewed by the media.

          • 44 jacquelineoboomer
            May 17, 2013 at 12:49 am

            Thanks. Really only try to watch President Obama these days! Sometimes the media BS slides into view! Yuck.

  12. May 16, 2013 at 11:07 pm

    • May 16, 2013 at 11:19 pm

      • 47 cman
        May 16, 2013 at 11:39 pm

        I agree with Plouffe here. A few days ago they were calling for the president’s impeachment for potential changing of talking points. Now republican staffers are caught red handed changing quotes in an email for a politically purpose. And no one is outraged? The double standard is colossally sickening

  13. May 16, 2013 at 11:08 pm

  14. May 16, 2013 at 11:09 pm

    Here is my contribution to Bowie night – possibly the most bizarre Christmas special ever:

  15. 52 CEB
    May 16, 2013 at 11:11 pm

    Dayum!!!! Did you see the last minute of Scandal?? OMG!!

  16. 58 lockewasright
    May 16, 2013 at 11:11 pm

    I know that we disagree about my opinion that the large majority of the popular music from about 1980 had been a horrific insult to most of what came before it, but we agree that Bowie is amazing.

    • 59 anniebella
      May 16, 2013 at 11:14 pm

      I’m going to be honest, I was such a fan of Michael Jackson in the 80’s that I hardly listen to anyone else music.

      • 60 lockewasright
        May 16, 2013 at 11:17 pm

        People can say whatever they want about that man, but like Bowie, it didn’t matter as time moved on and current styles changed. Jackson was the master of writing to it and moving it forward. He wasn’t ever emulating the most popular sound, he was always developing the next step.

  17. 61 donna dem 4 obama
    May 16, 2013 at 11:15 pm

    How did I miss this earlier???

    Real Journalism is taking place of late at CBS. Y’all might wanna switch off NBC and tune into CBS to get the real info

    “Pigs have flown: Major Garrett Reports on Benghazi”

  18. May 16, 2013 at 11:16 pm

    All right folks, I had a bit of trouble sleeping last night. So, just finished some writing, going to pour a second glass of wine, and snuggle in with a book. See everyone on the flip side.

  19. May 16, 2013 at 11:19 pm



  20. 68 utaustinliberal
    May 16, 2013 at 11:22 pm

    OMG!!!!! OMG!!!!! The Scandal season finale just about killed me.

    Breathe. Breathe. Breathe.

    Shonda Rhimes owns ALL of TV.


    West Coast? Gird your loins.

  21. 73 Jeff
    May 16, 2013 at 11:25 pm

    The republicans that altered these emails need to face ethics charges.

    • 74 donna dem 4 obama
      May 16, 2013 at 11:26 pm

      And the media knows who these Repubs are but they will never give them up!!!!

    • May 17, 2013 at 12:03 am

    • 77 nathkatun7
      May 17, 2013 at 1:03 am

      I agree with you Jeff! I also think the media people, like Jonathan Karl, who didn’t bother to verify these falsified WH e-mails should be fired or demoted. All you twitters should be asking these questions: which Republican member of Congress altered the WH e-mails in order to manufacture a scandal? Why hasn’t ABC fired Jonathan Karl for using falsified e-mails to impugn the integrity of President Obama and his administration?

  22. 79 Obama Grandmama
    May 16, 2013 at 11:25 pm

    I am finding everyone here essential to my mental health.
    My Mom died in February and even though she was battling cancer and other problems at 88 years old she voted for Obama both times. The last time he was the only one she voted for due to the difficulty of physically marking the ballot. We have mail in ballots and she could vote even though she was bed ridden. I live next door to one of my brothers who lived and was the primary care person for my late Mom with my help, of course. She and I had daily talks about how hard it was for our President with all of the obstruction from the GOP. My brother is totally into conspiracy theories and loved Ron Paul, now Rand Paul. I have to totally skip anything political with him. So I miss my Mom being here to talk with daily. Thanks to the rest of you for being here, and Chips too.

    • 80 donna dem 4 obama
      May 16, 2013 at 11:32 pm

      I’m sorry for your loss. I still miss my mother and she has been gone for 7 years. It does get better with time and I’m glad that you can find TOD as a respite for you.

    • 81 Alycee (@jazziz2)
      May 16, 2013 at 11:44 pm

      So sorry for your loss; Sunday must have been difficult for you. While you and your brother may disagree politically, at least you were able share in your mother’s care; that is a Blessing. Here’s hoping you’ll find joy in your memories of your Mom.

    • 82 Dudette
      May 16, 2013 at 11:52 pm

      {{{{Obama Grandmama}}}} I’m so sorry for your loss. She must’ve been one tough, determined lady to make sure her vote for President Obama was counted even while enduring her health difficulties. We are all the better for her having been among us. You must miss her something awful. We’re here for you. I pray that your heart will be at peace in the knowledge that she loved and was loved. Bless you.

    • May 17, 2013 at 12:13 am

      How good that you and your mom were so close. I am so sorry for your lost. My mother’s been gone for nearly 15 years and I miss her still. I’m glad you’ve found a comforting place here.

    • 84 nathkatun7
      May 17, 2013 at 1:09 am

      Sorry for your loss Obama Grandmama! Time will eventually help you heal and you will begin to remember all the positive things that your mother taught you or tried to teach you when you were not paying close attention.

    • May 17, 2013 at 1:43 am

      Regret your loss Obama Grandmama and know we are all here for you – all the time.

    • 86 99ts
      May 17, 2013 at 2:13 am

      Hello Obama Grandmama – how truly wonderful that your mother had the chance to vote twice for PBO – so very easy to understand how you miss the daily chats. I also lost my Mom in February – but it was a February – 7 years ago – I just cannot believe that 7 years have past – I seem to chat to her in my thoughts more than ever. I find this keeps her close & helps me cope with her absence. Family is always important & it is good that you are friends with your brother – despite the political differences.

      TOD is pure sanity – not only for the politics – but for the truthful reporting, the wonderful people, the humor – and even the football. Stay safe.

    • 87 MightyPamela
      May 17, 2013 at 10:08 am


  23. 88 vitaminlover
    May 16, 2013 at 11:28 pm

    How does ObamaCare help people? let me count the ways!

  24. 89 Dudette
    May 16, 2013 at 11:33 pm

    Btw, my Squee was only partially for Scandal (Dayum that was good!), the rest of it was for…Benedict Freakin’ Cumberbatch!!!!

    OMG, that is one sexy mofo! I knew I was gonna see Star Trek Into Darkness at least twice… Hell, it might be more like twice a week until that shit leaves the ltheaters. I’m serious! Two Spocks and HIM!! I’m sure fainted for a second! If you could get preggers from watching a movie, I be having quintuplets now.! 😀 😀 😀 :-D:-D 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀

  25. 102 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    May 16, 2013 at 11:34 pm

  26. 103 africa
    May 16, 2013 at 11:44 pm

    I have not watched Morning JOke since 2008. If you watch him, ask him to do this tomorrow.

    • 104 vitaminlover
      May 16, 2013 at 11:56 pm

      This is soooo pathetic! They are acting like the roadrunner and wile e coyote. Every time they try something against President Obama it’s like that boulder that rolls back on them. They are beyond stupid.

  27. May 17, 2013 at 12:01 am

  28. May 17, 2013 at 12:04 am

    The vote, mostly along partisan lines, was 229 in favor and 195 opposed. Two Democrats — Reps. Mike McIntyre of North Carolina and Jim Matheson of Utah — joined all Republicans voting for repeal.

  29. May 17, 2013 at 12:06 am

    As all of you know, the aspect of @ScottProuty’s recording of #BainMitt that concerned me the most was not the #47Percent comments – as vile as they were – but his totally despicable description of what he witnessed at a Chinese slave labor factory – a factory he willingly and knowingly invested – Global Tech Appliances. UT brought that video segment to the attention of TOD a few months after Scott began releasing snippets of the full recording he made on 17 May 2012.

    “Prouty chose to surreptitiously record Romney at the May 17, 2012 fundraiser in Boca Raton in part after reading a story on Mother Jones covering Bain Capital, the private equity firm founded by Romney. The story was critical of Bain Capital’s investment in Chinese labor in addition to the outsourcing of American jobs. During the fundraiser, Romney talked about his visit to a Chinese factory, citing certain living conditions with cheap pay, which influenced Scott Prouty’s decision to release the video to the public. Prouty said on The Ed Show that when Romney makes his appearance at CPAC2013, he would rather hear him talk about the American jobs that were lost as part of Bain Capital’s outsourcing and how he plans to help the laid off people.”


    I hope all of TOD will join me in thanking Scott on the 1st anniversary of his very brave act and continue to thank him during the next two weeks during which time, last year, he agonized and then decided he’d be nothing but a ‘chicken’ if he did not begin to inform the world of just how disgusting the creature named Mitt Romney happens to be.

    Yes We Can

    #TrustBarack for obvious reasons

  30. May 17, 2013 at 12:09 am

    This one is better:

  31. May 17, 2013 at 12:12 am


  32. 120 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    May 17, 2013 at 12:18 am

    Just read this little nugget… 😆 😆 😆

    “* Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R), who does not currently have a lieutenant governor, will need a new running mate for his re-election bid next year. Yesterday, he suggested he might choose former Rep. Allen West (R).”


    • 121 jacquelineoboomer
      May 17, 2013 at 12:28 am

      Can’t get any better than having Allen West as his running mate. I’m moving back to Florida this year, so I’ll be there to vote ’em out and watch ’em fall!

    • 124 57andFemale
      May 17, 2013 at 12:48 am

      Yes! Pick Allen West!!!! Please!!!!!

    • 125 Dudette
      May 17, 2013 at 1:01 am

      And the hits just keep on coming! Yes Rick, pick him… pretty please!

    • 126 99ts
      May 17, 2013 at 4:18 am

      They do not understand that someone who can win in 1 small area – has no chance state wide – that is why most of the full blown idjits are in house rather than the senate

    • 127 Nena20409
      May 17, 2013 at 10:55 am

      Allen West has now signed on with Fox as a contributor…..so Rick Scott’s fantasy has been dashed over lucrative Punditry at Fox.

  33. 128 susanne
    May 17, 2013 at 12:19 am

    aloha todville
    here’s one for yardarm: navy vessel tests missle defense system in the pacific. video has way cool images with cameras on rockets, and slomo liftoff from ship. also too, this happened in hawaii 🙂

    • 129 yardarm756
      May 17, 2013 at 1:16 am

      Thanks susanne. Amazing to see. My Navy was strictly guns and large bullets with an occasional depth charge or two. 🙂

      • 130 susanne
        May 17, 2013 at 1:26 am

        i was spellbound, watching the rocket lift off the ship–our navy is brilliant! and each generation builds on the one before.

        • 131 yardarm756
          May 17, 2013 at 1:36 am

          That’s only half of their capabilities. They have a ship that has all that, a company of Marines and support plus a coupla helos and SEAL’s.

          • 132 susanne
            May 17, 2013 at 2:04 am

            how the heck do they shoot that rocket out of the ship? it looked like the ship was exploding at first. what must it feel like to be inside that tub when the expulsion detonates! loud, shocking, scary!

  34. May 17, 2013 at 12:30 am


    If we thought Politico’s Jim Vandehei & Mike Allen were the GOP shill twits brazen enough pen that screed about DC overpaid journos “turning on Pres Obama” were sickening, then wait till you read what so-called serious journalist and pollster Charlie Cook of National Journal had to say about GOP fake scandals. He gleefully advises GOP HOW TO BRING down Pres Obama cuz his poll numbers must be brought down to match historical precedent. YES! He tells them: Don’t Gloat, Leak below:

    But as much as congressional Republicans are enjoying their schadenfreude, they would be well advised to think long and hard about their next steps. Even the most cursory look at opinion polls or focus groups reveals that the public is convinced we have an ineffectual and out-of-touch Congress that spends too much time backbiting, grandstanding, and Monday-morning quarterbacking while the country’s problems fester. Arguably, showboating for the cameras and holding hearings are what Congress does best; the temptation is unavoidable.

    Republicans would be much wiser to pursue a third option: Dig up as much damaging information as they can about the Obama administration and leak it to reporters they know will write tough stories that won’t be traced back to the source. That way, the public won’t see the GOP as being obsessed with attacking the other side and playing gotcha at the expense of the big issues facing the country—the ones voters really care about.

    Meanwhile, everyone in Washington will watch polls for signs of blood in the water, indications that the controversies or scandals—depending upon your perspective—are taking a political toll on Obama’s job-approval numbers.

    The lowest week of Gallup polling thus far for Obama was 40 percent, occurring in August and October of 2011. Arguably, he is due for a dip, given that each of his modern predecessors has dropped into the 30s or below. Presidents Ford, Reagan, and Clinton each hit a low point of 37 percent. President George W. Bush’s low ebb was 31 percent; Nixon’s was 27 percent; Carter’s was 28 percent; and George H.W. Bush’s was 29 percent.

    For now, we just watch and wait to see which one—or more—of these issues takes on legs. If none does, will it be something else? History says something always happens in the second term.

    This article appears in the May 18, 2013, edition of National Journal as Don’t Gloat. Leak..


    Yep this is our 4th Estate, People. America can only be saved by us poor schmucks. We are simply a palor game to the overpaid wizened media

    • May 17, 2013 at 12:35 am

      Folks I suggest we ALL blast Charlie Cook for this irresponsible article to be published on Saturday at this Twitter account @CookPolitical he does not hold GOP accountable for non-governance. Only interested in how to bring down President Obama
      Here are my 2 tweets tonight:

    • 139 hopefruit2
      May 17, 2013 at 12:39 am

      Thanks Zizi for bringing this to our attention. This piece of GARBAGE that is Charlie Cook should be spread far and wide. Expose that SUCKER. Cook is more interested in seeing PBO’s poll numbers go down rather than seeing people get jobs, or seeing guns out of the hands of criminals/mentally ill, or seeing children get a good preschool education, or seeing immigration reform passed.

      No wonder the GOP thinks it can get away with all kinds of crap without consequences. The corrupt media is helping them and covering for them, and even advising them on how to destroy our hardest-working, decent President who was duly elected TWICE and elected to govern the country, not be obstructed by a bunch of worthless corporate THUGS.

      • May 17, 2013 at 12:42 am

        You should see me now. Very livid. Especially since his article from yesterday indicating that the faux scandals had not affected PBO’s poll numbers, was featured here. Now he reveals his partisan hackery. We must descend on him like a swarm of locusts

        • 141 hopefruit2
          May 17, 2013 at 12:44 am

          Indeed zizi. I put out a few tweets, just to alert folks who may be still up, but I will definitely resume this mission tomorrow. We need to send a very solemn message to the corporate media that we will not be bullied into dragging down our President just for their entertainment and kicks. Not.This.Time.

        • 142 nathkatun7
          May 17, 2013 at 1:28 am

          “We must descend on him like a swarm of locusts….” I agree with you, Zizi. The media have declared war on our President and we must, in turn, declare war on the media. Lets give the so called 4th Estate no quarter!

    • 143 nathkatun7
      May 17, 2013 at 1:23 am

      I’ve said before, but I will say it again, most of the U.S. media operate as a propaganda arm of the Republican party. Either by commission or omission, the media have been active players in the GOP plan to destroy President Obama. Many are now unwittingly revealing their agenda.

      • May 17, 2013 at 1:32 am

        “Many are now unwittingly revealing their agenda.”

        Exactly, nath. Their frustration that #PBO refuses to even consider their game is steadily eliciting each of them to exposes themselves … and they are so completely consumed by their hatred they don’t have any idea that a vast number of folk are seeing them as just the unhinged fools that they are.


    • 145 theo67
      May 17, 2013 at 1:29 am

      Thing is, haven’t these right wing fools spent the last 4.5 years trying to “dig up” information to damage President Obama, and they’ve failed miserably? It’s disgusting that they’re doing this instead of doing the people’s business, but anything that could be dragged up about President Obama has already been tried and failed.

      • 146 99ts
        May 17, 2013 at 4:29 am

        They had to resort to lies theo – didn’t work – won’t work – republicans don’t understand the concept of “honest government”

    • 147 MightyPamela
      May 17, 2013 at 10:48 am

      Eff you, Charlie Cook, whoever you think you are. Dark side not dark enough for you eh? Well, big news: we have PBO holding steady in the LIGHT. Only Light can drive out darkness: http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=PBO

  35. May 17, 2013 at 12:40 am

    #ScandalWeek encapsulated ….


  36. 150 Dudette
    May 17, 2013 at 1:23 am

    Okay, re-tweetage is done. I’m off to bed. Lots of catching up tomorrow. Goodnight everyone!

  37. May 17, 2013 at 1:59 am

    Darrell Issa Rap Sheet… #UniteBlue twitter.com/didikins4life/…— diane straub (@didikins4life) May 17, 2013

    • 153 susanne
      May 17, 2013 at 2:10 am

      and furthermore…

      ‘ In April 2008, the Daily News reported that Issa questioned federal expenditures made after 9/11. He was criticized for making comments that the federal government “‘just threw’ buckets of cash at New York for an attack ‘that had no dirty bomb in it, it had no chemical munitions in it'”[67] and asking “why the firefighters who went there and everybody in the city of New York needs to come to the federal government for the dollars versus this being primarily a state consideration.” ‘
      from wikipedia

      issa is #1 on my list of rethugs to unseat.

  38. 157 Jovie
    May 17, 2013 at 4:35 am

    Great information^

  39. 158 Jovie
    May 17, 2013 at 4:51 am

  40. May 17, 2013 at 7:47 am

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but in all the faux scandals that the GOP/MSM used as an attack on President Obama, I can’t recall one that was based on something the President DIRECTLY did or said. It was typically something that they were trying to make him guilty of by association — from the 2008 campaign with Rev. Wright/Bill Ayers, to the current Benghazi/IRS/AP fabricated scandals.

    This may sound conspiracy theory-ish, but honestly, I would not put it past the republicans to have denied the funding requested by the State Department knowing that their budgets would have to be adjusted to account for the lack of funding and hoping that a “Benghazi-like” situation would occur so they could generate some mud to sling. After all, death is only collateral damage in their eyes when trying to attain their goals. Otherwise, there would have been outrage about the ignored intelligence that resulted in thousands of deaths ON U.S. SOIL, not to mention the thousands of deaths from the trumped up wars fought in the Middle East. There were enough embassy attacks and deaths that occurred in prior administrations where a request for funding for more security should not have even been questioned. Outrage about four deaths when you barely blinked an eye about similar situations where even more deaths had occurred is a “dead giveaway” that this feigned outrage is all about getting Obama.

    The GOP and MSM obviously think they are smarter than, not only the President – which they are not by a long shot, but they also think they are smarter than American citizens. They forget that most people have access to resources that they did not have a few decades ago. We have passed the period of time where if certain people said it or if we see it on TV or read about it in the paper then it must be true. The GOP/MSM’s apparent belief that they can continue to do this is continued evidence that they are in some alternate universe void of reality. Resorting to fabricating data and reporting it as news shows their desperation. The more they are unable to make any of these scandals stick, the more reckless they are becoming in their attacks. And instead of generating the intended outrage by the American people, the continued accusations are becoming a background noise to which no one pays attention.

    • 160 LDS
      May 17, 2013 at 8:17 am

      Good morning, TODville. Love you Ms. Chips.
      Swbluega, you are not wrong. No correction is needed.
      During the Bush era(father included) I did not buy a newspaper or watch MSM. It was it until PBO, then Sen. Obama cam upon the scene that I was interest in reading anything they though was “fit to print.”
      Our President is a caring, loving, humble man.
      Every time they go against this administration, I go to the Scripture.”No weapons formed against you shall prosper.”
      I know that they will not stop. It will get worse before it gets better. We have to stay focuse, be bold and courageous even more now.
      I am in…….still!
      My wonderful grandson shares this day with you, celebrating his 7th.
      He is on a Disney Cruise with his older sister, younger brother,Mom and Dad.

    • 161 Jeff
      May 17, 2013 at 9:23 am

      the Benghazi emails that the GOP hype up are altered and are not genuine.

      • 162 anniebella
        May 17, 2013 at 9:48 am

        swbluega, I don’t trust Republicans at all, they are a bunch of lying racists pigs, and I mean every word I said.

  41. May 17, 2013 at 8:05 am

    Mooooooorning early birds, back in a bit with R&S – happy Friday!

    • May 17, 2013 at 8:18 am

      Hi Chips,
      You missed the flurry of activity around here and on Twitter after I alerted folks about a despicable article Charlie Cook has written advising GOP on how to leak “scandals” to “tough” reporters, in order to bring President Obama’s poll numbers down, without their finger prints on the deed. Disgusting piece of work!!

      I quickly wrote a diary for Dailykos (Ugh!!) to get the ball rolling, since I ad already written the other piece for you to post here today. Here’s the link http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/05/17/1209722/-Charlie-Cook-Advises-GOP-how-to-Leak-Scandals-to-bring-Obama-poll-s-down#comments

      • May 17, 2013 at 8:51 am

        Thanks Zizi, will check it out.

      • May 17, 2013 at 9:11 am

        zizi, I rarely post on Old Orange these days, but I logged in just to drop you a rec/tip and comment. I will say that DKOS has not been particularly sympathetic to PBO during these last few days – in fact I saw a number of rec listed diaries asking for Holder to be fired based on AP’s crapola. But hopefully, the few reality-based posters who remain at that cesspool of mostly Greenwaldian cultists will knock some sense into the others.

        • May 17, 2013 at 9:14 am

          Thanks for the comment up there. I responded that I am not surprised by he lack of interest. Dkos only does Obamasuxx narratives. It’s standard Operating Procedure

  42. 168 Jovie
    May 17, 2013 at 8:08 am

    • 170 LDS
      May 17, 2013 at 8:18 am

      Thank you. Can’t wait to watch.

      • May 17, 2013 at 9:02 am

        I agree with those who watched it that Jay Carney did an excellent job of presenting the case for the administration. I like LOD as an interviewer because he actually allows the interviewee to respond to his questions rather than asking a question and then cutting the responder off in the middle of their response.

        I did note that a few times Mr. Carney said that the assumption is that the leaked e-mail came from republicans on Capital Hill. I can’t imagine he would say that if there were any doubt as to the source of the leak. I’m waiting for the outrage (tongue in cheek).

  43. 172 kathryn kivett
    May 17, 2013 at 8:50 am

    Do Republicans go to school to learn rude behavior….Talking/yelling over what someone else is saying seems to be their primary function…I have noticed it in hosts/guests/ men/ women……Obviously their parents failed to teach them civility….talk about low class……..watching Joke do that to LO this morning reminded me just how many of them do that……then watch Sam Stein, when he is talking and Joke interrupts he stops talking and just looks down his nose at him………and my point is?….I don’t know, just something I have observed…..I guess I am just a snob.

    • 173 Jovie
      May 17, 2013 at 8:53 am

      Bullies. Nobody likes bullies and Meeka is submissive

      • 174 kathryn kivett
        May 17, 2013 at 9:20 am

        That is exactly what they are…I bet that they taunted smaller children on the playground and their parents turned their heads the other way….and Mika…makes you wonder just how severely the males in her family bullied her to be quiet…..I notice she does not allow women to bully her like she does men.

    • May 17, 2013 at 9:21 am

      You are okay as long as you will regurgitate their talking points. Otherwise, they will yell over you to try and mitigate any damage to their agenda.

      I notice that they especially tend to do show this behavior to people they think of as insignificant…women, minorities, etc.

  44. 176 desertflower
    May 17, 2013 at 9:10 am

    http://www.stonekettle.com/2013/05/the-irs-scandal-tempest-in-teapot.html Morning! Is it Tally’s Birthday today?? Happy Birthday, Tally!!!

  45. 177 dotster3
    May 17, 2013 at 9:14 am

    Pardon me for this, BUT——–here’s the real mystery of the day!—–Who is the baby daddy of Archie the Anteater? Hmmmmmmm????

  46. May 17, 2013 at 9:26 am

    Everyone needs to be reminded that the Republicans and the Tea Party have not had a lovefest. We have watched the Republicans in Congress kowtow to who….the Tea Party, fearing a primary challenge. The idea that the IRS targeted Tea Party members for the benefit of Democrats is ludicrous. The Republicans Party also had a vested interest in the Tea Party not receiving tax-status favor. Keeping in mind that the officers in place are leftovers from the Bush administration, presumably they are Republicans.

    It seems to me, no one has bothered to mention that the practice of using the IRS to target the enemy goes all the way back to FDR. Oddly, no one ever called for anyone to go to jail. And since that is the suggestion, shouldn’t they start with Shulman, who was the Bush-appointed Commissioner at the time of the “problem”? He testified before a Congressional Committee that no such problem existed. Should he be one of the people who goes to jail. And shouldn’t he at least be held in contempt, the way they did with the Attorney General?

  47. May 17, 2013 at 9:31 am

    Happy Birthday, Tally!

  48. 183 hopefruit2
    May 17, 2013 at 9:33 am

    Here is an excellent Op-ed from the Baltimore Sun about PBO’s visit later this morning (and a FINE example of how the media can be very instrumental in actually informing its citizens about what needs to be done to improve the country and the role of government in that regard):

    HEADLINE: Baltimore’s investments in job creation

    // A strong and sustainable 21st century economy can only be built from the bottom up. And today, as President Barack Obama visits Baltimore, it is this fact that will drive us to join with him to renew a call for Congress to focus on common-sense investments that create middle-class job opportunities now and reward America’s economic future.

    Here in Baltimore, when it comes to economic development and jobs, the future of our local economy is heavily dependent on three critically important areas that require continued, targeted investments: public education, infrastructure, and job skills and readiness. We understand that key investments in these areas will not only support immediate job creation but will also lay the foundation for a strong and viable economy going forward — an economy in which middle-class families can dig out and get ahead; an economy in which future generations will find opportunity. //


  49. 184 kathryn kivett
    May 17, 2013 at 9:34 am

    IMO….Steve Miller is not doing the best job testifying right now…….”in the press” is going to be used against PBO somehow…..

    • 185 anniebella
      May 17, 2013 at 9:42 am

      Shouldn’t the point be if the guy is qualified to do the job, not how well he does by sitting up there answering questions from those jackasses. Alot of people said Chuck Hagel didn’t do a good job before the committee, but not to many question if he could be a good S.O.D. Of course we know how the press is.

    • 186 hopefruit2
      May 17, 2013 at 10:04 am

      Based on my Twitter TL, from sources I trust like @nerdywonka and @liberalphenom, it appears he’s doing quite a good job of giving the facts of the case:


  50. 187 criquet
    May 17, 2013 at 9:43 am

    Morning all.

    Please spread everywhere:

  51. 191 hopefruit2
    May 17, 2013 at 9:51 am

  52. 194 Nena20409
    May 17, 2013 at 11:11 am

    LL, I love david Bowie. Great TOD night owl……..thanks 🙂

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