The Day Jonathan Karl Ran Out Of Juice

Now we know whose ‘statements’ weren’t true.


Jake Tapper: CNN has obtained an e-mail sent by a top aide to President Barack Obama about White House reaction to the deadly attack last September 11 on the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, that apparently differs from how sources characterized it to two different media organizations.

The actual e-mail from then-Deputy National Security Adviser for Strategic Communications Ben Rhodes appears to show that whomever leaked it did so in a way that made it appear that the White House was primarily concerned with the State Department’s desire to remove references and warnings about specific terrorist groups so as to not bring criticism to the department.

…. Whoever provided those accounts seemingly invented the notion that Rhodes wanted the concerns of the State Department specifically addressed. While Nuland, particularly, had expressed a desire to remove mentions of specific terrorist groups and CIA warnings about the increasingly dangerous assignment, Rhodes put no emphasis at all in his e-mail on the State Department’s concerns.

More here




Media Matters: ABC News is now claiming that its Benghazi “exclusive” was based on summaries of emails between administration aides, not the emails themselves – an assertion belied by their earlier reports.

CNN’s Jake Tapper reported on May 14 that he had obtained an email sent by White House aide Ben Rhodes that “differs from how sources inaccurately quoted and paraphrased it in previous accounts to different media organizations,” including ABC’s Karl….

…. ABC News has responded by claiming their original reporting was based on summaries of the emails, not the emails themselves …. But ABC News and Karl himself have repeatedly suggested he had obtained the actual emails, not summaries of emails from Rhodes and others in the administration.

More here




Greg Sargent: …. as Tapper puts it: “Whoever provided those quotes and paraphrases did so inaccurately, seemingly inventing the notion that Rhodes wanted the concerns of the State Department specifically addressed …. Rhodes put no emphasis at all in his email on the State Department’s concerns.”

This would seem to do still more damage to the notion that there was any kind of cover up here …. if this report bears out, it weakens the underpinning of this supposed scandal considerably…..

…. Tapper concludes: “whoever leaked the inaccurate information earlier this month did so in a way that made it appear that the White House – specifically Rhodes – was more interested in the State Department’s concerns, and more focused on the talking points, that the email actually stated.”

So who provided this seemingly changed version of the email to ABC News?

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TPM: … [Jon] Karl says in a new piece that he asked his source to explain the discrepancy and got this response …

I asked my original source today to explain the different wording on the Ben Rhodes e-mail, and the fact that the words “State Department” were not included in the e-mail provided to CNN’s Tapper.

This was my source’s response, via e-mail: “WH reply was after a long chain of email about State Dept concerns. So when WH emailer says, take into account all equities, he is talking about the State equities, since that is what the email chain was about.”

I guarantee you Karl had a sinking feeling in the pit of his stomach when he saw that explanation. Because that explanation by reference to earlier comments in the thread is pretty weak. Karl’s follow on piece is entitled “More Details on Benghazi Talking Points Emerge” but the substance is, ‘How the Story Changes When I Realize the Notes I Was Using Weren’t Reliable.’ The answer here is that Karl pretty clearly got burned by his source. But he at least seriously singed himself by making it really, really look like he was looking at the emails themselves when he wasn’t.

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Steve Benen: …. So, let me get this straight. Someone leaked misleading information to ABC and the Weekly Standard, they ran it, other news organizations embraced it, we’ve had several days of “scandal” based on it, and the information wasn’t true?

…. we’re not dealing with a mistake, so much as we’re dealing with a political actor deliberately misrepresenting key details to journalists, who in turn misled other journalists, who in turn created a controversy where none existed.

…  Republicans have spent quite a bit of time recently insisting there are important, unanswered questions surrounding the Benghazi story. I’ve got one: who misled ABC and the Weekly Standard as part of this effort to smear the White House?

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Two weeks ago:

KARL: …. my question to you is, do you still have the juice to get the rest of your agenda through this Congress?

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, if you put it that way, Jonathan, maybe I should just pack up and go home. Golly …. as Mark Twain said, you know, rumors of my demise may be a little exaggerated at this point.

Well, Karl’s own juice just ran out – ABC need to announce his demise right now. He either doctored the email himself, or, more likely, used an email doctored by an opponent of the President for his ‘exclusive’ – either way…. astonishing.



238 Responses to “The Day Jonathan Karl Ran Out Of Juice”

  1. 1 Cman
    May 14, 2013 at 7:30 pm

    Benghazi scandal: Doctored email (3 days to crumble)

    IRS scandal: Liberal and Conservative groups were targeted, Tea party groups just got it more cause they were all over the place and a new group emerging each second from Sheldon and Koch money. (2 days to crumble)

    AP scandal: There were multiple interview done (500+) before District Attorney (read not holder) issued subpoena, oh and Holder was questioned as part of the investigation. (1 day to crumble)

    All the trolls calling for Obama’s impeachment yesterday, today looking like abject fools. (Priceless.)

    • 2 hopefruit2
      May 14, 2013 at 7:34 pm

      Some of them are still mad and can’t accept that they are looking real foolish after all the demands for Eric Holder to be fired. I can tell you that the PL emoprog contingent is ENRAGED right now. I have proof of that.

      • 3 Cman
        May 14, 2013 at 7:37 pm

        F’em. They are always enraged about something or other. Tomorrow, it’ll be Burma. What happened in Burma, you say? Why let’s ask the republican machine for the next ‘scandal’ and then everybody freak out. So over it all.

    • 4 4morefor44
      May 14, 2013 at 7:38 pm

      unfortunately so many of my “liberal” friends (all white mind you) were repeating that talk yesterday on facebook, and comparing this to richard nixon, so “mission accomplished for the billionaires who own all the media. that’s why what they do is so harmful. republicans are totally gone off the rails, and liberal support is allowing itself to be divided and conquered by their games. these new demographics in america cannot come fast enough! they are not so susceptible to these media-created games.

  2. 5 Don
    May 14, 2013 at 7:31 pm

    It happens to the best of us.

  3. 6 MightyPamela
    May 14, 2013 at 7:32 pm

    Uh, no., not possible…

  4. 10 hopefruit2
    May 14, 2013 at 7:33 pm

    Perfect thread Chips – thanks!

    Keep digging Jon….

  5. 11 Don
    May 14, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    Chips, in your long line of doing awesome work, this by far may be your coup de grace.

  6. 12 99ts
    May 14, 2013 at 7:35 pm

    When media friends fall out – the truth is seen. Shame they don’t report the news rather than invent it

  7. May 14, 2013 at 7:36 pm


  8. 21 Don
    May 14, 2013 at 7:37 pm

    Alls I know is that every goddamn day this fucking guy sits in the front row with a smug look on his face acting like he got the drop on President Obama or something.

  9. 22 hopefruit2
    May 14, 2013 at 7:37 pm

    Just by looking at my TL, I sense that MSNBC (I have not watched them on TV) has been literally unhinged all day – someone’s going to slip and say the N- word if they’re not careful. They are this close to saying it. They have essentially replaced FOX News and it shows in their dwindling ratings. I’m not sure why Phil Griffin thought that being anti-Obama was a good model (business or otherwise) for his network. I guess Karma is paying them a visit, as she should.

    • May 14, 2013 at 7:39 pm

      MSNBC? Who are they? 😆

      Really, I get my fill of US “news” channels from Twitter. It’s all I can tolerate. Bless the stronger stomached folk who watch the crap and Tweet.

      • 24 hopefruit2
        May 14, 2013 at 7:50 pm

        I ditched them a long time ago – except for the one or two occasions I’ve listened to a segment here and there from Lawrence or Rev Al. But that’s about it.

  10. May 14, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    Chips, madam, baby boo bear: You ROCK!

    I have a night owl chat ready. I think we’ll all enjoy it.

  11. 33 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    May 14, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    Good evening all.

    Damn, I was only 1 1/2 threads behind… Good thing about being busy — I totally miss the manufactured drama/poutrage…

    Been one of those days with a lot on my plate and very little energy. Dead on my feet, however, I hope that I’ll be able to hold out until about 10 pm, then sleep through the night.

  12. 34 dotster3
    May 14, 2013 at 7:40 pm

    I like this photo—–President Obama in between George and Abe——-looks right.

    • 35 MightyPamela
      May 14, 2013 at 8:01 pm

      Caption this: “juice, anyone?” 😆 PBO told them just a few days ago to watch their recklessness.. But did they listen to the President of the United States? Methinks not…

  13. 38 Don
    May 14, 2013 at 7:41 pm

    I hope Jay calls on Jonathan Karl first tomorrow.

  14. 41 anniebella
    May 14, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    I’m about to email ABC News and Jonathan Karl about their smoking gun.

  15. 42 4morefor44
    May 14, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    oh noes!! all this “scandal” talk must mean one thing…they’re about to drop the “michelle whitey” tape finally. help us!

  16. 44 Nena20409
    May 14, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    :LOL: :LOL:

    Jonathan Karl su*ked on his own Juice 😆 😆

  17. 61 hopefruit2
    May 14, 2013 at 7:48 pm

  18. 62 andogriff
    May 14, 2013 at 7:51 pm

    Great post Ms Chips, LOVE IT that these clowns now have egg on their faces…. or something much worse!

  19. 63 Jovie
    May 14, 2013 at 7:51 pm

    • 64 Nena20409
      May 14, 2013 at 7:58 pm

      A year ago…..there were 6 states. After pres Obama spoke on this….a year later, 12 is the New number from 6.

      Change We can Believe in.

  20. 65 Don
    May 14, 2013 at 7:54 pm

    See Bill, this is how you deal with juice.

  21. 66 carolyn
    May 14, 2013 at 7:55 pm

    I just emailed ABC News: ” Re Jonathan Karl’s stupidity: What happened to the ABC News of Harry Reasoner and Howard K. Smith? How the once mighty have fallen! You do know you’re a joke out here in the heartland?”
    Jon Karl should be fired, along with the entire ABC News department!

  22. May 14, 2013 at 7:55 pm

    As I said on TPV:


  23. May 14, 2013 at 7:56 pm

    Bravo Chips! That was a brutal takedown….

  24. 69 vitaminlover
    May 14, 2013 at 7:56 pm

    Stupid is as stupid does.

  25. 70 Jovie
    May 14, 2013 at 7:57 pm

  26. May 14, 2013 at 7:59 pm

    So another pleasant surprise from the hospital today. First the acupuncture, then a music session, THEN they brought in dinner from a local bbq restaurant. Good stuff. Most I’ve eaten from them in a very long time. Actually had a salad instead of cold soggy veggies. Yum.

  27. May 14, 2013 at 8:00 pm

    The national media in its entirety is ridiculously chasing their tails (i.e., GOP talking points).

    Cannot believe how BREATHLESS they have been since Friday, CONVINCED that the WH is in utter turmoil, when it’s actually the MSM joining the GOP as unhinged propaganda promoters.

    So in the interest of schadenfreude (which is so savory), reposting a couple of MSM accolades of Jon (weasel) Karl:
    “juice” (apr 30)

    “e-mail exclusive” (may 10)

    I used to refer to Jake Tapper as a weasel, and here’s something posted TODAY by his producer:

    Clueless jackals and hyenas all.

  28. May 14, 2013 at 8:01 pm

  29. 89 Dudette
    May 14, 2013 at 8:02 pm

    For symmetry [if you’re still out there lurking. Left something for you on the previous thread too.]

  30. 93 99ts
    May 14, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    Some great tweets on Mr Karl’s twitter – only person supporting him seems to be Jake Tapper hahahahaha

    • May 14, 2013 at 8:05 pm

      Ha, yeah, saw that 99ts – it was almost like Tapper felt bad about creating ‘difficulties’ for a beloved colleague!

      • 95 99ts
        May 14, 2013 at 8:13 pm

        Poor Jake had a big sad – should he take the kudos for getting the email – or should he hang in there for the sake of his BBF – they really do “make up” the news – ably supported by the GOP.

      • 96 Don
        May 14, 2013 at 8:22 pm

        Of course Tapper felf bad about screwing a colleague, in the same way Tiger felt bad for Sergio on the 17th at sawgrass.

  31. May 14, 2013 at 8:03 pm

  32. 99 Jovie
    May 14, 2013 at 8:04 pm

    • 100 MightyPamela
      May 14, 2013 at 8:10 pm

      This is sickening. Why do we not wake up?

      • 101 Dudette
        May 14, 2013 at 8:16 pm

        Sadly, because there’s more profit (at least monetarily) in doing the opposite. No one has figured out a way to translate the costs into terms that will cause the people with the purse strings to take notice and see that changing things will be for their own benefit.

  33. May 14, 2013 at 8:07 pm

    I really don’t understand how the deficit and ACA are tied together, but here’s some (good) perspective that is being ignored by MSM because they really are that lazy:

    • 106 Jovie
      May 14, 2013 at 8:11 pm

      The ACA saves money bc you g people will be getting insurance, subsidized or sliding scale. For first time .

    • 107 hopefruit2
      May 14, 2013 at 8:26 pm

      The MSM is not just lazy. They deliberately bury any news that could possibly be construed as positive for PBO. Yet they go out of their way and literally work over-time spinning stuff and digging up any trash that could be reported as “negative” or “scandalous” for PBO

      • 108 Nena20409
        May 14, 2013 at 8:35 pm

        LIberal Media My Arse……….They will find excuses for TBGOPers and justify their behavior. But to report even on pres Obama’s trips, events, commencements, etc are questioned and dissected. His Skeet shooting comments were questioned even when a photo was released. But a gulf outing with Tiger Woods was a 3-6 days story,

  34. 109 Jovie
    May 14, 2013 at 8:09 pm

    Scroll down a bit and look at this trailer on the website


    It will fit!

  35. 120 Jovie
    May 14, 2013 at 8:14 pm

  36. May 14, 2013 at 8:18 pm

    This is interesting. May have been posted already.

    Ambassador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security, U.S. officials say

    In the month before attackers stormed U.S. facilities in Benghazi and killed four Americans, U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens twice turned down offers of security assistance made by the senior U.S. military official in the region in response to concerns that Stevens had raised in a still secret memorandum, two government officials told McClatchy.


    • May 14, 2013 at 8:20 pm

      Anonymous sources, though, so hard to know how credible this report is.

      I recall reading just after the attacks that Ambassador Stevens had asked for additional security.

      At this point, who knows what to believe?

      • May 14, 2013 at 8:30 pm

        Ain’t it the truth! 🙂 I read what was supposed to be the official State Department (?) timeline. It recorded a request from Ambassador Stevens for 5 security personnel. Then I read and email that supposedly came from Tripoli (Stevens) making the same request. 2 security personnel traveled with him and there were already 3 at the annex. In a later email, he said that would be adequate.

        But who knows who wrote them. 🙂

      • 124 anniebella
        May 14, 2013 at 8:37 pm

        Then maybe we should be focusing on when the State Department asked for more money for embassy security, the Republicans said NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • May 14, 2013 at 8:41 pm

          This whole argument is so silly to me. If one has chaos breaking our in half a dozen places and you have to figure out where to send resources, I would think a location with 2 dozen CIA members would be at the bottom of the list.

        • May 14, 2013 at 8:43 pm

          Well, that takes us full circle to Congress cutting the State Department security budget.

          Justice would be served to have the media turn on the GOP House and actually start asking Republicans who voted against this funding why they did so.

          Not holding my breath, though.

  37. May 14, 2013 at 8:18 pm

    Tim O’Brien is MSM, and like all the others has been incessantly tweeting about the non-scandal trifecta.

    He is still capable of tweeting out some good news though.

  38. 128 nathkatun7
    May 14, 2013 at 8:19 pm

    If I rember correctly, CBS fired Dan Rather and somebody else for supposedly using false documents to question George Bush’s military record. I think ABC should do the same to Jonathan Karl for relying on doctored e-mails to impugn the integrity of the President. We also need an investigation to find out the source (s) of the falsfied e-mail that Karl based his sensationalist report on.

    • 129 carolyn
      May 14, 2013 at 8:28 pm

      Yes, CBS fired Dan Rather, but as was later learned, Dan Rather was right, which no one, least of all the Bushes wanted made public. That was political arm twisting at its most obvious…..at least to us. Also, a journalist named Mary Mapes was also shunned because she worked with Dan Rather to investigate that situation. GWB was a draft dodger in the National Guard, and didn’t even fulfill his National Guard obligations. He was just a spoiled little rich boy who never worked a day in his life, and certainly didn’t work a day when he was appointed president!

    • 130 hopefruit2
      May 14, 2013 at 8:32 pm

      MSNBC also fired Phil Donahue because he spoke against the Bush Iraq war and Chris Matthews, the up-and-coming MSNBC star wanted him gone.

  39. May 14, 2013 at 8:22 pm

    I really am starting to think that the God in whom I have my doubts has a soft spot for that Obama fella.

  40. May 14, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    HA! Looks like ABC is the new CNN.

    • May 14, 2013 at 8:36 pm

      ABC has unsuccessfully tried to overcome their “third” network status because they launched after CBS and NBC (who both had a radio presence before television).

      I can’t think of any credible journalist who has worked for network (not local) ABC. (Probably just my faulty memory though.)

  41. May 14, 2013 at 8:32 pm

    Can we get this word out to the OUTRAGED media now?

    • 150 hopefruit2
      May 14, 2013 at 8:41 pm

      Unfortunately it was not just the GOP calling on Holder to resign – a significant segment of the left media, MSNBC, Jon Stewart, etc were all singing for Holder’s head. I think it’s time that we begin to acknowledge that this hatred of and hostility towards our President extends far beyond the GOP.

      • 151 Jovie
        May 14, 2013 at 8:45 pm

        None of them are democrats, Naderites and libertarians.

        • 152 hopefruit2
          May 14, 2013 at 8:48 pm

          That’s true, however, these individuals do not self-identify or seen by others as being part of the GOP, nor do they work for FOX news. They are usually seen either on MSNBC, or in the blogosphere where people think of them as “liberals” even though you and I know know differently about their underlying orientation.

      • May 14, 2013 at 8:48 pm

        Wouldn’t worry about Moulitsas, an Obama-basher for as long as I can remember – don’t think he ever quite left his GOP roots. But being a fake progressive can be profitable, as my beloved Cenk has proved.

        Greenwald? He’s as left as Newt Gingrich. The CATO/Koch boy is a worthless piece of shit.

        Shuster? A comedy show.

        Jon Stewart? A juvenile smart ass – have long since grown tired of his back-of-the-class sneering at anyone and everything, but hopefully he’ll grow up one day.

        • 154 hopefruit2
          May 14, 2013 at 8:56 pm

          :MAO! You’ve described them all to the letter Chips!

          But they are not seen as part of the GOP nor do they identify that way, and some of them have been thought of as quite “liberal”

          In general Eric Holder is not appreciated by the “liberal left” and “liberal MSM” for some reason, and I think it partly has to do with the fact that he didn’t prioritize their pet issues of prosecuting Bush or going after the banks, and instead worked on voters rights, medicare fraud, mortgage fraud, police brutality, etc, things that affect the poor, working class, middleclass and disenfranchised, not concerns of the wealthy limousine liberals. Of course the racial element is also an important factor.

          • May 14, 2013 at 9:11 pm

            Ah, Holder and the ”left’, Hopefruit …. can only shamelessly post my tweet from earlier today:

        • May 14, 2013 at 9:04 pm

          Thank you. These are the people who dominate the airwaves. Or so I hear. They have too much power and don’t warrant one iota of it!

        • 158 COS
          May 14, 2013 at 9:06 pm

          THIS, THIS, THIS AND THIS Chips. You said it so right.

        • 159 africa
          May 14, 2013 at 9:17 pm

          Oh, Shuster. Striving for relevance. The others, pftttt/

        • 160 prettyfoot58
          May 14, 2013 at 9:47 pm

          Allllllllllllllllllllllllllright Ms Chipssssssss….Break it Downnn…Break it downnnnnnn…HA!

        • 161 Lovepolitics2008
          May 14, 2013 at 10:17 pm

          Very well said, hope fruit.

          Love your characterization of Jon Stewart. This guy has daddy issues, I would bet on it. There’s something immature in his aggressiveness towards EVERYONE who has some power.

      • May 14, 2013 at 9:00 pm

        Really sick of the knee-jerk reactions of media making “proclamations.”

        It’s disgusting how full of themselves they are.

        MSM management needs to figure out these “proclaimers” need to be reassigned to a job that requires actual work.

        P.S. Cannot STAND Greenwald. His tweets about President Obama inexplicably drip with venom and bile. Refuse to even glance at anything written by him.

  42. 163 anniebella
    May 14, 2013 at 8:33 pm

    Thank you carolyn, I think we all ought to contact ABC News over these lies they put out there. I sent a email to ABC News also.

  43. May 14, 2013 at 8:37 pm

    What a treat to come here today! I’ve been grading papers all week-end – only have 25 more to go. And I had a funeral to go to. When I got back home I turned on Hardball – and turned it right back off again. I’ve decided on a summer without tv news. Good-bye to MSNBC. I liked some of the evening programs, but I’ve had it. Then I come here and read highlights about things the media opinionators don’t even mention. So now I’m watching a Lewis and Clark documentary on Netflix (love historical documentaries!), quickly perusing TOD, and now about to return to the papers.

  44. 165 Jovie
    May 14, 2013 at 8:42 pm

  45. 167 dotster3
    May 14, 2013 at 8:43 pm

    My good and fun news—-youngest daughter is expecting her 1st baby——and they found out today “what kind” (as mr. dotster amusingly put it). They are going to have a sweet little girl babe—–(no boy parts detected)—–and this is funny—-my daughter swears the wee thing (little bigger than an avocado) was waving at her mom and dad during the ultrasound. I bought it.

    • 168 japa21
      May 14, 2013 at 8:51 pm

      Congrats Grandma dotster. Will Chips get to be honorary grandma when she and mr dotster tie the knot?

    • 173 MightyPamela
      May 14, 2013 at 8:53 pm

      And a huge congratulations to the youngsters, to the grands, and I’m sure the wee lassie was a-waving to her family! 😆

    • May 14, 2013 at 8:56 pm

      Dotster, that is just the very loveliest news!

      “What kind” ….. I am hooooooooowling!!!!!!! 🙂

      Ah, love ya both! The warmest congratulations!

  46. 175 hopefruit2
    May 14, 2013 at 8:45 pm

    pickle48 you made the right decision to take a summer hiatus from TV “news”

    Here’s an example of the kind of “analysis” from an MSNBC contributor (the so-called left-leaning network):

  47. 183 japa21
    May 14, 2013 at 8:49 pm

  48. 184 sherijr
    May 14, 2013 at 8:50 pm

    My money’s on John McCain.. as Jon karl’s lying ‘snitch’. 😉

  49. 185 amk for obama
    May 14, 2013 at 8:50 pm

    Loving how this fucking lie exploded on the collective faces of corrupt thugs.

  50. 186 dotster3
    May 14, 2013 at 8:51 pm

    • May 14, 2013 at 8:54 pm

      On the same page as you. Always amazed at the President’s grace and ability to convey the core issue.

    • 188 MightyPamela
      May 14, 2013 at 9:10 pm

      We could easily read congressional republicans in place of IRS….

      • 189 MightyPamela
        May 14, 2013 at 9:13 pm

        Oh wait, do they still consider themselves ‘public servants’? Even tho their paychecks come from us, they are privately employed, aren’t they?

        • May 14, 2013 at 9:36 pm

          Okay, everybody jump on me. I don’t like the President’s statement. The IRS did their job. They target people who have home offices, certain contributions, particular investment. They should have targeted all of those organizations on the left and right and turned down every one of them. The scandal is that they changed the criteria to match the activities of the Tea Party.

          • May 14, 2013 at 9:50 pm

            I know what you’re saying FayPax, but I think the statement alludes to what you said: “The scandal is that they changed the criteria to match the activities of the Tea Party.”


            I have now had the opportunity to review the Treasury Department watchdog’s report on its investigation of IRS personnel who improperly targeted conservative groups applying for tax-exempt status. And the report’s findings are intolerable and inexcusable. The federal government must conduct itself in a way that’s worthy of the public’s trust, and that’s especially true for the IRS. The IRS must apply the law in a fair and impartial way, and its employees must act with utmost integrity. This report shows that some of its employees failed that test.

            I’ve directed Secretary Lew to hold those responsible for these failures accountable, and to make sure that each of the Inspector General’s recommendations are implemented quickly, so that such conduct never happens again. But regardless of how this conduct was allowed to take place, the bottom line is, it was wrong. Public service is a solemn privilege. I expect everyone who serves in the federal government to hold themselves to the highest ethical and moral standards. So do the American people. And as President, I intend to make sure our public servants live up to those standards every day.


            To be honest, I think they should have been targeting these groups, but it’s also crucial that standards don’t drop to IRS levels under Bush when only liberal groups were targeted. Although, as we’ve read, the vast majority of groups that appeared in last few years were Tea Party types, which largely accounts for them topping the ‘target’ list.

  51. May 14, 2013 at 8:51 pm

  52. May 14, 2013 at 8:51 pm

    President Obama is the very definition of classy and “take the high road:”

  53. 194 GGAIL
    May 14, 2013 at 8:55 pm

    See what happens when you mess with a favorite child of God!!!!

  54. 195 amk for obama
    May 14, 2013 at 8:56 pm

    • 196 vcprezofan2
      May 14, 2013 at 11:54 pm

      Pity these guys are too dense to see that the presidency wouldn’t be in need of ‘rescuing’ if they would just do a professional job themselves.

  55. 197 vitaminlover
    May 14, 2013 at 8:57 pm

    Since our Beloved President had no public appearances today I am sure the media, the GOP, Jake Snapper, Chuck Waddle and Snark Knoller our OUTRAGED!

  56. 198 japa21
    May 14, 2013 at 8:58 pm

  57. 204 dotster3
    May 14, 2013 at 8:58 pm

    Military needs to be a little more careful about who they’re selecting to be in charge of sexual assault prevention—–this isn’t the first such ugly situation…..

  58. 206 japa21
    May 14, 2013 at 9:00 pm

    • 207 Dudette
      May 14, 2013 at 9:17 pm

      Swish! Nuthin’ but net!

    • 208 dotster3
      May 14, 2013 at 9:17 pm

      Did you see Jon Karl’s face when he asked that stupid “juice” question? He looked so proud of himself and looked around to see if his fellow news hacks were proud of him too. It was yuck.

    • 209 Lovepolitics2008
      May 14, 2013 at 10:02 pm

      They all suffer for what I call the “Woodward syndrome”. They want to become the next Bob Woodward; they want to become a celebrity because they exposed the scandal of the decade, of the century. It’s about their career. No question journalists have to scrutinize the actions of politicians; but the type of witch hunts, faux scandals we’ve seen in the last few years is NOT journalism. They’ll have to realize one thing: they haven’t found big scandals because this president and his cabinet have INTEGRITY.

      If they want real scandal, they’ll have to wait for the next republican administration. We usually have big, REAL ones when a republican holds the presidency. Watergate, Iran-Contra, Abu Ghraib, the lies going into Iraq, politicization of the Justice department, and on and on… (Of course the problem is that journalists always hesitate to attack a republican president because they’re afraid of getting their republican bosses unhappy…)

  59. 210 anniebella
    May 14, 2013 at 9:06 pm

    Rachel Maddow is running her dam mouth tonight, and I refuse to listen to her.

  60. 211 desertflower
    May 14, 2013 at 9:06 pm

    THIS! http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014483580

    Former NAACP Chairman Julian Bond said Tuesday that it was “entirely legitimate” for the Internal Revenue Service to target conservative groups for increased scrutiny, calling the tea party the “Taliban wing of American politics.”

    “I think it’s entirely legitimate to look at the tea party,” Bond said during an interview with MSNBC’s Thomas Roberts. “Here are a group of people who are admittedly racist, who are overtly political, who’ve tried as best as they can to harm President Obama in every way.”

    In 2004, the civil rights group was audited by the IRS in a move Bond criticized at the time as “an attempt to silence the NAACP.”

    “They are saying if you criticize the president we are going to take your tax exemption away from you,” he said in 2004. “It’s pretty obvious that the complainant was someone who doesn’t believe George Bush should be criticized, and it’s obvious of their response that the IRS believes this, too.”

    During the Tuesday interview, Bond denied that there was any parallel between the IRS’ latest scandal and the NAACP audit.

    Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/14/julian-bond-tea-party_n_3274583.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

  61. 212 amk for obama
    May 14, 2013 at 9:06 pm

  62. May 14, 2013 at 9:07 pm

    ok – just got home from being Errand Girl.


    1. Someone ******inside the White House****** LEAKED fake accounts of emails regarding Benghazi.

    2. Someone ******inside the White House****** LEAKED information to the AP regarding a foiled terror plot, putting lives in danger.

    Someone is seriously fucking with MY POTUS, and that pisses me off.

    My BIG QUESTION (other than who the fuck is doing that, and who is paying them to do it?) is WHY DID THE IRS APPROVE ANY POLITICAL ORGANIZATIONS FOR TAX EXEMPT STATUS????

    • 215 japa21
      May 14, 2013 at 9:12 pm

      Don’t jump to conclusions. There is no evidence it was leaked from WH in either situation. Best guess is some GOP Congresscritter or aide in my opinion.

      • May 14, 2013 at 9:20 pm

        What Randhi Rhoades and AG Holder said today, makes it pretty clear it was someone with high enough access to those emails (enough to know what they said, and to edit them and mislead), and high enough CIA intel that they knew about the undercover op we had inside AQ in Tripoli.

        There is a mole, most likely paid by the GOP, and it’s all going to blow up in their faces.

  63. 221 Don
    May 14, 2013 at 9:08 pm

    WOW!!! What a day, the I.R.S, Benghazi, and some emails. It’s barely past 9 p.m. and President Obama kicked ass and in on his way to tuck Michelle in. I miss the good old days when a scandal lasted more than twenty-four hours.

  64. 225 hopefruit2
    May 14, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    So that woman who works for the Atlantic who tweeted about PBO hiding two girls in the basement, is now trying to issue a mea culpa – but is just making a royal ass out of herself at this point:

  65. 227 desertflower
    May 14, 2013 at 9:14 pm

    Shameless plug for the book I’m reading now. Excellent, must read.


    • 228 desertflower
      May 14, 2013 at 9:17 pm

      A veteran journalist’s acidically funny, righteously angry lament about the glorification of ignorance in the United States.

      In the midst of a career-long quest to separate the smart from the pap, Charles Pierce had a defining moment at the Creation Museum in Kentucky, where he observed a dinosaur. Wearing a saddle…. But worse than this was when the proprietor exclaimed to a cheering crowd, “We are taking the dinosaurs back from the evolutionists!” He knew then and there it was time to try and salvage the Land of the Enlightened, buried somewhere in this new Home of the Uninformed.

      With his razor-sharp wit and erudite reasoning, Pierce delivers a gut-wrenching, side-splitting lament about the glorification of ignorance in the United States, and how a country founded on intellectual curiosity has somehow deteriorated into a nation of simpletons more apt to vote for an American Idol contestant than a presidential candidate.

      With Idiot America, Pierce’s thunderous denunciation is also a secret call to action, as he hopes that somehow, being intelligent will stop being a stigma, and that pinheads will once again be pitied, not celebrated.

  66. May 14, 2013 at 9:15 pm

  67. 231 amk for obama
    May 14, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    Great Push Back thread, Chips.

  68. 233 africa
    May 14, 2013 at 9:22 pm

    Dear Chips,
    Would you please publish that picture with the egg splatter?

  69. May 14, 2013 at 9:33 pm

    Thank goodness that this too will pass. Trouble don’t last always (as the song goes). I think I’ve had it up to my hairline with these “scandals”. Just hope President Obama stays focus on moving the country forward and ignores haters on the left and right.

    • 237 anniebella
      May 15, 2013 at 5:25 am

      He will stat focus pkayden, remember what FLOTUS said about things like this, I can’t remember her exact words but she said something like when all the people around is pulling their hair our with worry, and being all concern, POTUS is charm, he keeps his eye on the ball. She said something like that, but what she said let’s me know that POTUS will be just fine. We have to keep him, FLOTUS, and the girls in our prayers.

  70. 238 Jovie
    May 14, 2013 at 9:53 pm

    UPDATE, 9 p.m.: Lew said in a separate statement that he is “deeply troubled” by the findings.

    “While the Inspector General found no evidence that any individual or organization outside the IRS influenced the decision to use these criteria, these actions were inappropriate and did not reflect the high standards which I expect and the public deserves,” he said. “Like the American people, I have zero tolerance for any action that could undermine public confidence in the impartial and non-partisan administration of the tax code.”

    Lew didn’t say much about the consequences, but he did promise to pursue those who engaged in misconduct. “I strongly agree with the president about the need for accountability at the IRS, and I expect the IRS to implement the Inspector General’s recommendations without delay,” he said.

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