Chat away – Obama’s fault edition

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  1. 1 desertflower
    May 14, 2013 at 9:18 pm


  2. 11 hopefruit2
    May 14, 2013 at 9:18 pm

    Obama’s Fault! πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

  3. 13 vitaminlover
    May 14, 2013 at 9:19 pm

    Also the stock market over 15,000. Hmmmmm?

  4. 16 desertflower
    May 14, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    Bringing this over as a shameless plug for Charles Pierce’s book that I just happen to be reading now:)


    A veteran journalist’s acidically funny, righteously angry lament about the glorification of ignorance in the United States.

    In the midst of a career-long quest to separate the smart from the pap, Charles Pierce had a defining moment at the Creation Museum in Kentucky, where he observed a dinosaur. Wearing a saddle…. But worse than this was when the proprietor exclaimed to a cheering crowd, β€œWe are taking the dinosaurs back from the evolutionists!” He knew then and there it was time to try and salvage the Land of the Enlightened, buried somewhere in this new Home of the Uninformed.

    With his razor-sharp wit and erudite reasoning, Pierce delivers a gut-wrenching, side-splitting lament about the glorification of ignorance in the United States, and how a country founded on intellectual curiosity has somehow deteriorated into a nation of simpletons more apt to vote for an American Idol contestant than a presidential candidate.

    With Idiot America, Pierce’s thunderous denunciation is also a secret call to action, as he hopes that somehow, being intelligent will stop being a stigma, and that pinheads will once again be pitied, not celebrated.

    Excellent read…highly recommended

    • 17 99ts
      May 14, 2013 at 9:38 pm

      I really enjoy Pierce – but he is truly like each and every journalist when he thinks they are being “attacked” by the administration – he thinks they are above the law – re the AP piece that he wrote.

      I did check if it was on kindle – and it is – sent myself a sample – I really like that you can read the first many pages of a book via kindle before deciding to buy – or not.

      • 18 desertflower
        May 14, 2013 at 9:51 pm

        Hi, 99:) The trouble with the little snippet, in this case, is that it doesn’t get into the meat of things until the middle of the book…you may not get the entire gist with just the snippet. Worth finding in your library (where I got mine) and reading for free….my next book I have my eyes on after I finish this one.. “Ten Letters” about the 10 letters that PBO reads every night from everyday Americans.

        • 19 99ts
          May 14, 2013 at 10:49 pm

          Given it’s US politics not very likely to have it in our local libraries – I’ll try the snippet & will buy it if I like the read – I never could understand the nonsense that was the death of Terri Schiavo – and will be interesting to read Pierce’s take on the mentality that brought that to the world. Looking at the GOP reaction to children killed by guns vs. the death of Terri – the ignorance is overwhelming. I seriously think if there was a white man in the white house – Sandy Hook would have had much greater consequences for the NRA.

  5. May 14, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    Can’t help myself……

  6. May 14, 2013 at 9:23 pm

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  8. May 14, 2013 at 9:25 pm

    What a difference a day makes! We KNOW the character of President Obama because we follow him so closely, so we never doubted him. Wake up, MSM; your desired second term scandal is a mirage manufactured by the wingers who can’t stand this good and decent man who lives his values and asks the best of each of us.

    • May 14, 2013 at 9:55 pm

      You’re absolutely right.

      The MSM have been fanning themselves since Friday, mocking people who get the “scandals” confused, convincing themselves that they’re actually busy “working.”

      It’s infuriating that the lazy columnist such as Dana Milbank (saw a tweet about his column demanding that PBO become an “active participant in his presidency”).

      And no pushback from the media when Dick Cheney has the abolute gall to make this nauseating claim:

      • 27 jackiegrumbacher
        May 14, 2013 at 10:13 pm

        There are no words vile enough for this enemy of the people formerly known as Cheney. He has NO place whatsoever in American discourse. He’s never met a lie too gross to reject.

        • 28 arkluvspbo
          May 15, 2013 at 3:08 am

          When the GOP Teabaggers have nothing, they trot out the devil, himself. Doesn’t he have a heart donor to rip off, somewhere?

        • 29 theo67
          May 15, 2013 at 3:16 am

          Dick Cheney has no place among the civilized. He needs to be in prison – in solitaire. For a very long time. Subjected to the same indecencies that he has revelled in and relished for his victims.

      • 30 MightyPamela
        May 14, 2013 at 10:30 pm

        Freaking windbag…. Go tell it to The Hague. Muvva.

  9. 31 amk for obama
    May 14, 2013 at 9:25 pm

    • 32 arkluvspbo
      May 15, 2013 at 3:09 am

      Because that is the attention span for the typical GOP teabagger, for them it’s like “Groundhog Day”, every day.

      • 33 theo67
        May 15, 2013 at 3:17 am

        It’s because “there’s no ‘there’, there”. All wind, no substance. Their “scandals” can’t stand up to the slightest scrutiny.

  10. 34 amk for obama
    May 14, 2013 at 9:28 pm

  11. May 14, 2013 at 9:32 pm

    This is very important news that gets washed under the table at times like these….but the former PM, who was overthrown by Musharaf, is back in power. He has a fascination w/ infrastructure and wants good relations w/ India. Plus will help w/ Taliban in SWAT valleys.

    AMK, curious to get your take, from Indian perspective.

    • 36 amk for obama
      May 14, 2013 at 9:40 pm

      Not good at all. He is a conservative (a muslin conservative, what could go wrong there?) who sides with the extremists and who is as corrupt as Mr 10%. PPP, all said & done, is a more liberal party. This win only reinforces further radicalization of pakistan.

      • May 14, 2013 at 9:44 pm

        LOL, that’s not what I was expecting…..My doctor Khan, was telling me he was religiously conservative, but had good western ties…and was not hostile towards India. He did refer too the current PM as MR. 10% though! Guess he should stick to medicine….

    • May 14, 2013 at 9:40 pm

      The question is: will he be able to rein in the military and ISI? Remember, he was ousted by them in 99.

  12. May 14, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    Okay, so you didn’t like my last comment. You didn’t have to go off and leave me in the middle of a sentence. πŸ™‚

  13. May 14, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    re: AP vs. AG

    Speaking of “on the wrong side history” or “egg on their faces” (all emoprogs and virtually all MSM)


  14. May 14, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    • 43 99ts
      May 14, 2013 at 9:44 pm

      And my favorite quote from Pierce (despite he annoyed me yesterday) – “people got no jobs, people got no money”

  15. May 14, 2013 at 9:40 pm

  16. 45 Ladyhawke
    May 14, 2013 at 9:42 pm

    Rachel Maddow drags out Dan Rather to opine on the news of the day to which i say ‘CLICK’.

    • 46 hopefruit2
      May 14, 2013 at 9:46 pm

      GOOD. And the result is this:

    • 47 anniebella
      May 14, 2013 at 10:00 pm

      Tonight I say to Rachel Maddow “Kiss My Grits” Remember the tv show Alice, and one of the waitress used to say that all the time. Mel, Kiss My Grits. Rachel was on her high horse tonight and I couldn’t stand her.

      • 48 0388jojothecat
        May 14, 2013 at 10:17 pm

        Yep….hahahaha……Kiss my Grits is so true…..What is wrong with journalists? On Madcows show she said that AG Eric Holder recludrf himself from the investigation….that’s the first I heard of this…..then she continued to blame the DOJ everyone is talking about stuff they have not investigated nor researched yet they call themselves “journalist”?

  17. 49 forus50
    May 14, 2013 at 9:43 pm

  18. 51 hopefruit2
    May 14, 2013 at 9:44 pm


  19. May 14, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    I really and truly hope that AJ America looks for fresh faces to fill out its staff. It may be the organization that saves US journalism.

    • 54 amk for obama
      May 14, 2013 at 9:50 pm

      I really hope so. But with their signing up teann’s ali veshi, it’s not a good start at all.

    • May 14, 2013 at 9:52 pm

      I hope they hire savy PR people as well…..you know the GOP is gonna go back to the Bush days, claiming it’s Al Qaeda media arm. They already tried pressuring Comcast not to pick them up, as well as other service providers.

  20. May 14, 2013 at 9:45 pm

    ACA and California:

  21. 60 amk for obama
    May 14, 2013 at 9:47 pm

  22. 61 japa21
    May 14, 2013 at 9:47 pm

  23. May 14, 2013 at 9:51 pm

    • May 14, 2013 at 9:55 pm

      • May 14, 2013 at 9:57 pm

        • 66 forus50
          May 14, 2013 at 10:06 pm

          Or nothing funny about implying that the President would be a kidnapper/rapist. It’s one thing if it’s from The Onion or Bill Maher but from an effing journalist?! They get away with more than the tv weathermen/women. Zero repurcussions. Speaking of Bill Maher, how odd it was that a comedian lost his job for what he said (back in 2001) but today’s clowns don’t pay any price. Just sick all around.

          • 67 EricFive
            May 14, 2013 at 11:30 pm

            Its the same old double standard. An act of terror under a republican president requires the nation and media to rally around the president, while an act of terror under a democratic president demands the media and opposition party do all they can to politically damage the president and find creative ways to blame him for the tragegy. Just like only democrats are forced to resign and become toxic after affairs/ sex scandals (compare the political fates of Elliot Spitzer and Mark Sanford). The party of the rich and corporation (i.e., the GOP) is afforded much more leeway than democrats in this country. The MSM/GOP works hard to maintain this double standard.

  24. 69 vitaminlover
    May 14, 2013 at 9:51 pm

    I just cannot watch Chris Hayes. Is his show to be cancelled?

  25. 73 yardarm756
    May 14, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    I wonder…

    • May 14, 2013 at 9:58 pm

      Would love to know too, Yardarm.

    • 76 amk for obama
      May 14, 2013 at 10:01 pm

      Didn’t pox news go to court over its lying and didn’t the fucking supremes say that they are free to lie under “1st amendment” ?

      • 77 yardarm756
        May 14, 2013 at 10:06 pm

        Ergo…if they’re no accountable, why should anyone else be. The first amendment is to insure citizens are informed not lied to.

        • 78 amk for obama
          May 14, 2013 at 10:08 pm

          Both 1st and 2nd amdmts. have been twisted way beyond their original briefs.

          • 79 yardarm756
            May 14, 2013 at 10:11 pm

            I concur.

          • 80 nathkatun7
            May 15, 2013 at 12:51 am

            I agree with you 100%, Amk! By the way, one of the first amendment rights that Right Wingers have no qualms regulating, is “the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for redress of grievances.”

    • 82 nathkatun7
      May 15, 2013 at 12:43 am

      As one great jurist said about freedom of speech, freedom of the press does not mean that a reporter is free to falsely “shout fire in a crowded theatre.”

  26. May 14, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    Did anyone see A G Eric Schneidermann recently? I think he was on with Chris Hayes. When asked about the administrations failure regarding foreclosures, Schneidermann smiled and said, I think AG Holder will be unveiling quite a surprise very soon. Anyone know what he was referring to?

    • 84 desertflower
      May 14, 2013 at 9:57 pm

      I would LOVE to know! When did he say this? Recently?

      • May 14, 2013 at 10:05 pm

        Wasn’t that long ago. Last week. He gave me the impression that something is about to break wide open regarding Wall Street and foreclosure fraud.

        • 86 hopefruit2
          May 14, 2013 at 10:08 pm


        • 87 desertflower
          May 14, 2013 at 10:10 pm

          That would be nice. I have fought that battle for nearly 5 years and finally, FINALLY got out of that hellhole nightmare…but I have friends that need help and relief. I am trying to help them as best as I can, but every scenario is different with different circumstances. Would like to know if something new is about to happen that could possibly offer them some relief.

    • 89 theo67
      May 15, 2013 at 3:41 am

      People always seem to forget that the foreclosure relief process was only able to save a few homes because of Edward Demarco, who is/was the Acting Director of the FHFA, who obstructed the program in favor of protecting shareholders. He only recently allowed some restructures to begin. In addition, Republicans blocked measures that would have allowed judges to order renegotiation of principle on certain mortgages. Only about 10% of the mortgage relief program was actually able to be used.

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  30. 105 desertflower
    May 14, 2013 at 10:02 pm

    Can’t see this enough. http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/05/breaking-united-states-no-longer-going-bankrupt

    So what, pray tell, will the RWNJ’s say now?? The thing is, even though this isn’t moving fast enough and could be helped along if R’s had any thought of governing and working FOR people rather than against them, at the behest of their corporate masters, the policies that PBO has worked tirelessly to put in place…all have a ripple effect, and will strengthen the economy whether the nutbags want it to happen or not. The beauty of an intellect and forward, long term thinker:) TY, President Obama!

    • 106 theo67
      May 15, 2013 at 3:58 am

      Chris Hayes tried to tell Nancy Pelosi last night (Monday) that the RWNJ’s have succeeded in bringing about a deficit reduction via their push for austerity. Nancy laughed at him, and then put him straight – pointing out the Democratic policies implemented under Pres Obama that have combined deficit reduction with wise investments. I loved that she schooled him, after letting her jaw drop when she saw where he was going with his nonsense. She needs to give lessons to the rest of the Dems – because nay other Dem would have agreed with Chris’ stupid and erroneous theory.

  31. 107 yardarm756
    May 14, 2013 at 10:03 pm

    What I think of Ann!

    • 108 desertflower
      May 14, 2013 at 10:05 pm

      yardarm!! Where have I been that I didn’t notice your new pic???!!! Is that you as a young PO?? look at you!

  32. 116 Don
    May 14, 2013 at 10:04 pm

    If you guys get the chance please read the letter that the DOJ sent to AP. In a way it’s like the DOJ wrote the letter then dropped its pen on the desk and walked away.

    • 117 desertflower
      May 14, 2013 at 10:06 pm

      mic drop, huh? πŸ™‚

    • 118 Dudette
      May 14, 2013 at 10:13 pm

      Oooh, I’ve been waiting for that to come out.Knew it would be good!
      But I don’t see it on the DOJ website. Have you got a link?

    • 119 nathkatun7
      May 15, 2013 at 1:20 am

      Great letter! It makes all the people in the media, jumping on the bandwagon in support of AP’s self-serving story, look like total idiots.

  33. 120 africa
    May 14, 2013 at 10:07 pm

    MSM call home. You are obsessed with PBO.

    • 121 jacquelineoboomer
      May 14, 2013 at 10:32 pm

      Now THAT was a chuckle. Think I’ll send it to Jay Carney!

    • 122 nathkatun7
      May 15, 2013 at 1:29 am

      Great tweet, Africa! Without a doubt, the U.S. media are obsessed with trying to bring President Obama down. This is just me, but I truly consider most of the MSM to be a propaganda arm of the Republican party. Having failed to convince the majority of American voters to vote against President Obama, in 2012, both the GOP and the MSM have embarked on manufacturing scandals to try to accomplish what they couldn’t accomplish at the polls.

  34. May 14, 2013 at 10:07 pm

    I’ve just been followed by a bible-obsessed man who sleeps with his labradoodle. Afraid.

  35. 135 Dudette
    May 14, 2013 at 10:09 pm

    • 136 Don
      May 14, 2013 at 10:14 pm

      I think Jonathan has a point, maybe African Americans should apologize for slavery also.

      • 137 jacquelineoboomer
        May 14, 2013 at 10:18 pm

        Women should apologize for not getting the vote until 1920, and, you know, other things. Lots of other things.

      • 144 EricFive
        May 14, 2013 at 11:43 pm

        Jackie Robinson should apologize for all the upset he caused when he integrated baseball. All the hatred, venom and bile he suffered through (and lead to his early death) was his fault for not knowing “his place”.

      • 145 nathkatun7
        May 15, 2013 at 1:35 am

        You know Don, what you said is not far fetched. I actually heard a right wing say that African Americans should be grateful for slavery
        because they were fed and clothed by their kindly masters.

  36. May 14, 2013 at 10:10 pm

    Okay, I have to go. It’s been a pleasant visit as always. I shall dream that it comes out the Darryl Issa doctored the email, that IRS officials reveal that they were pressured by Republicans to slow-walk Tea Party applicants because they were challenging Republican candidates and it comes out that McCain and Graham are an item.

    See you tomorrow.

  37. 149 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    May 14, 2013 at 10:11 pm

  38. 150 jacquelineoboomer
    May 14, 2013 at 10:13 pm

    This is the “most human” I think I’ve ever seen Katrina, although she’s better than most:

    • 151 Don
      May 14, 2013 at 10:27 pm

      No Katrina, your routine is getting old. You can’t play both sides because the next time some lie about President Obama pops up, your ass will be the first in line to crucify him, fuck off. The fact that you think you can throw some African Americans in your tweet and think everything is cool is so goddamn cynical on your part..

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  40. 153 Dudette
    May 14, 2013 at 10:15 pm

    3rd Shame Song right here for ya!!

  41. 155 Dudette
    May 14, 2013 at 10:19 pm

    Pink – It’s All Your Fault

  42. May 14, 2013 at 10:20 pm

    Is it time for a night owl chat? I think that time is coming soon.

  43. 160 amk for obama
    May 14, 2013 at 10:23 pm

  44. 161 desertflower
    May 14, 2013 at 10:24 pm

    Because I can…

  45. May 14, 2013 at 10:31 pm

  46. 166 carolyn
    May 14, 2013 at 10:31 pm

    The press is what I call “Obama obsessed”…..this is a condition analogous to that which Flannery O’Connor the great Southern Writer diagnosed in the South. She called it “the Christ obsessed South.” Not that they followed him, or emulated him ,or respected him, but have an enduring unbelievable obsession with him. This is what I see in the press with regard to President Obama. They don’t respect him, or understand him, or give him the credit he should have, but they can’t help themselves, they are obsessed with him. They are like little kids who always want to be noticed by him, but have nothing worthwhile to contribute to the conversation, or any sensible substantive questions to ask.
    Jonathan Alter’s tweet is a symptom of this condition. All Republican legislators also are Obama obsessed. They truly can’t think of anything else. He is the exotic, the unattainable they yearn to be, and know they never will. So, they obsess and seek to destroy. It’s an absolute sickness.

  47. May 14, 2013 at 10:40 pm

  48. May 14, 2013 at 10:44 pm

    Wonder how many news org’s will change their narrative from “only targeted conservative group”

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