Rise and Shine


The week ahead:

Saturday and Sunday: The President has no public events scheduled

Monday: The President will host the third White House Science Fair celebrating the student winners of a broad range of science, technology, engineering and math (STEM) competitions from across the country

Tuesday: The President will honor the 2013 National Teacher of the Year and finalists at the White House. Later, he will welcome to the White House the Amir of Qatar, His Highness Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani

Wednesday: The President and the First Lady will travel to Dallas to attend an event for the DNC. They will remain overnight in Dallas

Thursday: The President and the First Lady will attend the dedication ceremony of the George W. Bush Presidential Center. Later in the day, they will return to Washington, DC, and later in the evening, the President will attend the Planned Parenthood Gala

Friday: The President will host His Majesty King Abdullah II of Jordan at the White House

Saturday: The President and the First Lady will attend the White House Correspondents Dinner







Knoller?! 😯















President Obama receives an update in the Oval Office from Lisa Monaco, Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism, on the Boston Marathon bombing investigation following the capture of the second suspect, April 19 (Photo by Pete Souza)




171 Responses to “Rise and Shine”

  1. 1 4morefor44
    April 20, 2013 at 9:57 am


  2. 3 dotster3
    April 20, 2013 at 9:59 am

    Excellent reporting from the Boston Globe on the 2 brothers, about them veering off track, how they BOTH became increasingly religious and radical—-and more.


    • 4 hopefruit2
      April 20, 2013 at 10:12 am

      At this point, there is absolutely NO evidence that being a Muslim or having any religious belief played any role in the bombing attacks. This rush by the media to link heinous acts committed by home grown terrorists to some outside entity is troublesome. It’s more likely that these boys, like the ones before them (Lanza, Loughner, Aurora shooter) were disillusioned with their own lives, had problems within their own families, and decided to act out their frustrations in violent ways – because they had the means to do so (easy access to guns and other weaponry).

      • 5 dotster3
        April 20, 2013 at 10:27 am

        Actually—-I think the point was—-they had become increasingly radicalized in their beliefs——not that they were Muslim or had Islamic beliefs—–but something changed along the way, as indicated by all observers, where they began to have increasingly extremist beliefs. After chugging along seemingly normally for years, both had dropped out and away from society and normal routines. As the article indicates, the older brother (after a 6 mo. absence from the U.S.) grew a long beard, started to wear long white linen garb, dropped out of school, was unemployed, began posting ranting radical videos, familiar to authorities, who brought him in for questioning as a result. The younger bro, who everyone seemed to like, had also begun posting extremist religious material, lost job, began failing most of his college classes——whether this was a result of his brother’s influence, as many are speculating, we hopefully will find out——what happened, why they “veered off track”.

        • 6 utaustinliberal
          April 20, 2013 at 10:32 am

          So what if he grew a long beard. They also smoked pot; so what.

          I didn’t shave my legs yesterday and probably got down on my knees to pray yesterday or maybe I didn’t. Does that make me a terrorist?

          Until law enforcement speaks, everything is baseless speculation.

          • 7 dotster3
            April 20, 2013 at 10:44 am

            Sorry—-that is weak. No, that does not make you a terrorist—just prickly—(no shaving) but something made these 2 guys terrorists—-decide to make some bombs and place them among innocents at a marathon race, killing 3 and maiming many—-to commit a horrific terrorist attack. And responsible, smart reporters are looking into their backgrounds and recent actions and are looking for answers—just like all normal people—–about what could have caused the drastic change in these 2 guys.

            • 8 nathkatun7
              April 20, 2013 at 4:28 pm

              Why not blame mental problems, or violent video games, or smoking pot, or troubled family life, or the fact that they may have been ostracized for their beliefs?I am sure if these boys were white Christians those are the likely explanations we would be getting from all these not so expert media people. By the way, one thing deeply religious muslims don’t do is smoke pot or use drugs. So, if the reports are to believed that they smoked pot then they were not devout muslims.

    • 9 utaustinliberal
      April 20, 2013 at 10:29 am

      This is complete hogwash, baseless speculation, and rabid crap and needs to stop. It has not been established that they were “religious radicals” and this needs to stop. People can’t seem to accept the fact that these suspects are not what they expected them to be. They don’t fit their preconceived notions and stereotypes so you want to blame religion.

      They also smoked pot. Does that mean the pot made them crack and go on a murderous rampage? They were normal everyday kids who most likely grew disillusioned with their lives, their family, whatever the fuck….I don’t give a damn. But this rush to paint a negative radicalized brush on Muslims and people who study Islam is disgusting and needs to stop.

      The suspect will most likely confess as to his reasoning and until it has been established by the proper law enforcement officials as to his motive, anything else is baseless lies. We have homegrown terrorists. Timothy McVeigh was a homegrown terrorist but because his name is as American as apple pie, no one questioned his religion or blamed Islam yet for this Boston Marathon bombing suspect you immediately blame religion; code for Islam and assume they were radicalized.

      We’ve seen this week how wrong the media can be based on faulty information. I’m waiting for the law enforcement to proceed with due process. Until then, everything else is nonsense.

      • 10 dotster3
        April 20, 2013 at 10:37 am

        Maybe you need to contact the Boston Globe and register your disgust at their erroneous reporting. (and all other reporting from respected sources noting the same) Patience is prudent, that’s for sure, but there is much supporting evidence for this reporting—-facts that have been uncovered, observations from family members and those close to the brothers. I don’t get being in complete denial about this responsible and respected (by all) reporting.

        • 11 utaustinliberal
          April 20, 2013 at 10:50 am

          Your rush to blame Islam and “religious radicals” is what’s very troubling. Law enforcement hasn’t established anything yet we’re supposed to take the fact they prayed five times a day, grew beards, and smoked pot means Islam made them radicalized terrorists? That’s hogwash.

          Until law enforcement have a credible motive behind the attacks, everything else is nonsense.

          • 12 japa21
            April 20, 2013 at 11:09 am

            Who is blaming Islam? Do you blame Christianity when a Christian bombs an abortion clinic? Saying somebody did something from what may have been a religious reason is not the same as blaming the religion.

            • 13 utaustinliberal
              April 20, 2013 at 11:24 am

              I don’t believe you read the entire commentary/dialogue that took place before you penned your reply. It might be wise to do that and then you might understand the response.

            • 14 hopefruit2
              April 20, 2013 at 11:31 am

              The media has been blaming Islam. That’s the whole point we’ve been making here. The media rushes to blame the entire religion or group whenever the religion in question is associated with a racial or ethnic minority group. Whereas in the case of Adam Lanza who was a card carrying NRA member, there was no rush by the MSM to make the association with his NRA membership and his heinous murder of 20 school children. There was no rush to call him or his mother “radicalized extremists” which they apparently were – given their history and actions.

              Furthermore, as you yourself pointed out downthread, by linking the bombing to a known outside group such as Al Qaeda or other – the media is positioning itself to push the narrative that PBO has not kept us safe from international terrorism.

              • 15 utaustinliberal
                April 20, 2013 at 11:49 am

                Once again hopefruit, you took the words right out of my mouth.

                As always, you have excellent insight and your BS detector is A+.

        • 16 hopefruit2
          April 20, 2013 at 10:57 am

          Even “respected” media sources tend to readily play into ethnic/racial stereotypes when it suits them, with many of them engaging in rank speculation. And this case is no exception. The suspects used gun powder as part of the bombs, and also had guns in their possession. Yet NO one is asking where did they get the guns. Shouldn’t we be pointing fingers at the NRA and the Libertarian “civil liberties” groups that are highly resistant to stricter gun-control laws including background checks?

      • 18 MightyPamela
        April 20, 2013 at 10:39 am

        Utal, this highlights the memorable and fanatic ‘inheritance’ we continue to struggle with compliments if Bush-Cheney. Thank you for clarifying a confusing issue for many.

  3. 20 magapie
    April 20, 2013 at 10:00 am


  4. 21 4morefor44
    April 20, 2013 at 10:04 am

    god bless those UNION THUGS who caught the terrorists, just as those UNION THUGS who caught timothy mcveigh, james holmes, jared loughner, and all the other terrorists did too. and to think, these people risk their lives for something other than enriching mitt or tagg rmoney?!? these UNION THUGS seem to be motivated by something other than profits and trickle-downer free market fairy dust!

  5. 22 99ts
    April 20, 2013 at 10:06 am

    Hello Ms Chips and E1 – what a wonderful rise and shine. Just as well Palin wasn’t in charge of anything – with her great knowledge of foreign places the Czech Republic would probably be under bombardment by now.

    Love the tweets – love that humor wins always – love that even Mark Knoller had good words for PBO

  6. 24 4morefor44
    April 20, 2013 at 10:08 am

    do we know anything yet about what kind of guns and how many these terrorists had? wonder how they got them. all these mass murderers seem to have no problem getting plenty of guns and a wide variety of them, yet the gun nuts/republicans say our laws are too restrictive. makes no sense whatsoever.

    • 25 globalcitizenlinda
      April 20, 2013 at 11:11 am

      have tweeted the same questions about their gun ownership – this is something that needs to be followed up

  7. 26 amk for obama
    April 20, 2013 at 10:13 am

    Why, thank you Chips for putting up my tweet.

    Ok, what do you want ?

    Image and video hosting by TinyPic

    I love The Rock.

  8. 31 CEB
    April 20, 2013 at 10:14 am

    Good morning everyone. I am rising and shining even though it is raining here because Hell Week is over and PBO IS THE PRESIDENT. Now is the time for healing, renewal, and marching forward to face and conquer the challenges before us.

    The Boston Globe coverage is first rate.

  9. 32 amk for obama
    April 20, 2013 at 10:15 am

    Heads up, mini bt’s

    toon at noon.

  10. 34 Jovie
    April 20, 2013 at 10:16 am

    Good roundup. I agree whole heatedly that the media stirs up racial stereotypes, probably directed from the RNC.
    BUT, lets not get to a point where we are perceived as attacking all White Males on this blog.
    I know that’s not what anybody wants, but sometimes I read comments and it can come off that way.
    Just saying.
    Also, Red Sox are on at 1 and celtics are on at 3, I will be watching, should be emotional.

    • 35 hopefruit2
      April 20, 2013 at 10:25 am

      No, we’re not attacking all White Males. The tweet on the front page is framed in the general context of when these kinds of events occur – how the perpetrators are viewed by the media and the public. That’s the thrust of the arguments. There is no attacking of any one racial or ethnic group on this thread. We’re all in this together and we all have a responsibility to fight harmful stereotypes. Currently harmful stereotypes against certain groups are being promoted and maintained by the media, and to some extent the larger public. That’s basically what the tweet is getting at.

  11. 37 utaustinliberal
    April 20, 2013 at 10:16 am

    Fantastic round-up Chiparoo and thanks for the tweet recognition; much appreciated.

    This week is going to be exciting….!!!! Another STEM fair (remember the last one…Marshmallow Gun anyone?), then National Teacher of the Year event, then POTUS and FLOTUS in the Lonestar Star state…yiiiippppeeee!, then the Planned Parenthood Gala (Awesome Feminist President) and then it culminates in the WHCPD…..where Pres. Obama will kick ass as always.

    Looking forward to the week! 😀

  12. 40 amk for obama
    April 20, 2013 at 10:21 am

    Italian President Giorgio Napolitano has agreed to run for office again to resolve a growing political crisis, after an appeal by the main parties.

    “I consider it necessary to offer my availability,” said Mr Napolitano, 87, who was due to step down on 15 May.

    The parliament earlier failed in its fifth attempt to elect a new president. The next vote is expected shortly.

    A caretaker government has been governing Italy following February’s inconclusive general elections.

    The political deadlock has compounded concern about the stability of Italy whose economy, the third-biggest in the eurozone, is mired in recession.


  13. 41 amk for obama
    April 20, 2013 at 10:23 am

    The jury in the inquest into a woman who died in hospital in Ireland four days after suffering a miscarriage has given a verdict of medical misadventure.

    Savita Halappanavar, 31, died in University Hospital Galway last October.

    Her family claimed she might have survived if she had been given an abortion.

    The inquest has heard the cause of death was septic shock and E coli.

    The jury’s verdict in the inquest was unanimous.


    So, that’s it ? Even with the new pope, no way out of political cowardice?

    • April 20, 2013 at 10:28 am

      The only light in the most horrific of stories is that it’s re-opened the debate on Irish hospitals’ policy on abortion – there’ll probably be new legislation soon, but needless to say the nutjobs are lining up to try and block it.

    • 47 99ts
      April 20, 2013 at 10:43 am

      When/if you ever trace your ancestors you will find large numbers of women 1600-1900 (hard to get records much before 1600) who had a child per year after marriage & often died after the 9th 10th 11th – or whatever. The saddest I read about was the one who died having number 15 & the newspaper report quoted the ubiquitous neighbor as saying “she had no trouble with the first 14 – who thought this one would be different”.

      It is utterly disgusting that with the medical advances of current times women are still seen as nothing more than baby carriers in some societies.

  14. 48 99ts
    April 20, 2013 at 10:25 am

    Speaking of the week that was – the onion is spot on

    “Maybe next time we have a week, they can try not to pack it completely to the f..king brim with explosions, mutilations, death, manhunts, lies, weeping, and the utter uselessness of our political system,” said basically every person in America who isn’t comatose or a complete sociopath. “You know, maybe try to spread some of that total misery across the other 51 weeks in the year. Just a thought.”

  15. 49 Jovie
    April 20, 2013 at 10:25 am

    Of course , mcCain and Graham put out a statement just now saying no criminal Trials for suspects


    So, throw them all in a dark dungeon, never to be heard from again???

  16. 52 Don
    April 20, 2013 at 10:27 am

    Chips, I absolutely love your website and I want to thank you for letting us vent from time to time. And also I want to thank you for letting all of us share our ideas even though we might not agree with each other. Now I would never tell you how to run your website, but if I may ask, I’m extremely color blind to the point that I can’t read the twitter post because of the dark color of the background due to the dark color of the words. No, I’m not high maintenance despite what my wife says. I HUMBLY ask if you can change the color of the background to a lighter color, if you can’t change the color for whatever reason, no problem I understand. I’m your biggest fan.

    • April 20, 2013 at 10:37 am

      Hiya Don, always MORE than happy to get requests/suggestions, so thank you!

      Do you mean the tweets I posted have a black-ish background? That was my view of them too when I posted them initially, but after a minute that righted itself and they’re now as they appear on Twitter, ie a white background.

      Does anyone know if this is a browser issue?

      Will do a bit of Googling to see if I can find a solution.

      Thanks Don.

    • 54 amk for obama
      April 20, 2013 at 10:45 am

      Hi Don. What is the browser you are using ?

      I recommend you use firefox and then install the add-on called NoSquint 2.1.8, which can be searched in the add-on page.

      This add-on allows you to set the webpage background color, letter color and the font size.

      See below for my color settings. I have set all my web pages(one global setting, you don’t have set for every page) to dull grey and black letters. No more eye jarring web pages for me.

      Image and video hosting by TinyPic

    • April 20, 2013 at 11:49 am

      Hello Don I am just a lurker here, but just to thank you for the beautiful post you submitted about being Black in America. It made me reexamine my reactions. Thank you. Namaste.

  17. 64 japa21
    April 20, 2013 at 10:27 am

    This week has been emotional, draining, depressing, uplifting. Anybody who did not experience just about every emotion possible these past 4 plus days isn’t human. And yesterday, twitterdom was amazing. The tweets ranged from the most serious, to heartbreaking, to funny to making me proud to be an American.
    I was particularly please to see all the pushback the ridiculous Lindsey Graham received for his total dismissal of the Constitution and the American justice system.
    A great collection of tweets and to think those represented just a miniscule portion of the ones that were sent. I am amazed Twitter did not totally collapse under the load.

  18. 65 MightyPamela
    April 20, 2013 at 10:31 am

    Good morning to all o’ y’all…. Might be reading all the blogging I missed yesterday, in an effort to catch up today. Last year before the election, I went into amazon and bought Pete Souza’s The Rise of Barack Obama, finally getting down to READING it! It is superb; I am thrilled to have it in my collection! Hanging out healing today. Very pleased Mr. PBO has no public events scheduled. Be good y’all! Hugs all ’round for a peaceful weekend. Go Vancouver Marathon, wear blue and yellow in solidarity!

  19. 69 GGAIL
    April 20, 2013 at 10:32 am

    A very Good West Coast morning Chipsticks! Love the Tweets

  20. April 20, 2013 at 10:49 am

    From yesterday, this made me laugh.

    Wish there were some Dunkin’ Donuts in California. During my wonderful New England vacation a few years ago, I saw many of those delightful places.

  21. 77 amk for obama
    April 20, 2013 at 10:52 am

  22. 79 dotster3
    April 20, 2013 at 10:53 am

    Beautiful letter from the parents of the Chinese student killed in the bombings. She was a well-loved intern in my Chgo daughter’s company—-much sadness by those who knew this sweet, smart, kind girl.


  23. 82 99ts
    April 20, 2013 at 10:53 am

    G’nite all – I wish you all a wonderful and peaceful weekend – and I hope the President gets in a game of golf.

    If you don’t play gold – go visit the grandbabes – all of ’em – any of ’em 🙂 🙂

    • April 20, 2013 at 10:58 am

      Morning Nena! That video is near the top of the post!

      • 91 Nena20409
        April 20, 2013 at 11:04 am

        Yes, Chips…..I ‘ve just noticed it after I have posted. I was not as observant as I should have been. I was secondarily trying to experiment too……Today is 420. Thank goodness that I am not a pothead. Had I been, I would have blamed my oversight on that 😉

        Good Morning Chips and TODers everywhere.

    • 93 Nena20409
      April 20, 2013 at 11:00 am

      OK it worked. I have always been fooling myself……thinking 😯 OK, perhaps not thinking 😉 that I could only copy videos from the YOUTUBE site in order to post it here. Now I know differently….hmm?

  24. 94 Don
    April 20, 2013 at 10:56 am

    The problem is with my eyes, I’m so color blind that if it isn’t black or white it almost doesn’t even register with me, the good thing is that I can’t get in trouble for picking out the wrong color when I go shopping with my wife. I’ll just change the color scheme on this computer.

    p.s. thanks for the recomendation.

  25. 102 japa21
    April 20, 2013 at 10:59 am

    Chips, just a warning, I may be sending you something later.
    And a larger warning for all of us. If we thought the Benghazi attacks on PBO and this administration were bad, they are nothing compared to what is about to happen. Already, the right is starting to launch attacks based on the fact that the FBI had the older brother in their hands and let him go and this is due to PBO being soft on Mulsims. Therefore, this whole attack is PBO’s fault.
    This is just the beginning of a larger attack that will be coming.
    Facts, as usual, will mean nothing.
    Also, they will equate this with severity to 9/11.
    This will show that PBO and this administraion have lied about doing damage to al Qaeda.
    I am not giving any of these attacks credence, but they are coming.
    And we should not be shocked when they occur.
    We don’t have to try to convince each other of the lameness of these attacks or that there is little likelihood that these two had any connection to any organized terror group.
    But they will be vicious and they will have an impact.

    • 103 MightyPamela
      April 20, 2013 at 11:04 am

      And this gives us another chance to ask them where is OBL?! btw…..

    • April 20, 2013 at 11:06 am

      Thanks Japa, would be thrilled to post something by you.

      The guy had hardly been captured last night when CNN started pushing this narrative, and, naturally, the right were dancing with glee yesterday when word came out that the older brother had been interviewed by the FBI.

      It will, no doubt, be vicious, but do these hypocrites know any other way?

      • 105 japa21
        April 20, 2013 at 11:21 am

        I think we all can say with confidence that the attacks will be wrong, but they will be there.

        Also, since you have acknowledged my existance this morning, you and I need to have a chat about what went on here after I left evening. It will have to wait as I have to take the dog to the vet, but we will need to straighten some things out young lady.

    • April 20, 2013 at 11:14 am

      I am not as worried. PBO soft on Muslim? Right! He will face a lot of fire re that FBI meeting with the older brother and I am sure it will be nasty, especially with the fringe. I choose to listen to Michelle Obama – I am not afraid of anything these assholes have coming!

    • 108 hopefruit2
      April 20, 2013 at 11:14 am

      Japa, this is the point I’ve been coming to – with my posts about the media trying so hard to link the bombing attacks to the young men being “radicalized by Muslim religion” The media wants to push the narrative that PBO has not kept us safe from Al Qaeda or Islamic extremists. They keep saying that this is the worst act of terrorism since 911 (I guess 20 dead school children from a trigger-happy gun nut is not terrorism). I hope people understand this when they go along with the media narrative that these men were “radicalized Muslims.”

      • 109 prettyfoot58
        April 20, 2013 at 11:57 am

        I think we have to redefine what is an act of terror …these mass killings like Aurora…Tucson… are acts of terror as well….the powers that be and their allies in the media have successfully linked the notion of terrorism to only those of Islamic Faith…

        The children of Sandy Hook were certainly terrified…and the families of the victims as well as the survivors and their families are still traumatized by those horrific events….

        and what is psychological damage caused by the daily trauma to citizens who live in neighborhoods victimized by extreme violence….


        Common definitions of terrorism refer only to those violent acts which are intended to create fear (terror); are perpetrated for a religious, political or, ideological goal; and deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants (civilians).


        if you live in a neighborhood that is constantly victimized by violence..one begins to live in a constant state of fear…

        This is the kind of issue that PBO wants to study .it is one of his recommendations….to study the impact of gun violence….but his goals have been blocked thus far…in fact this discussion hardly ever is heard on the so called News Programs…

        • 110 hopefruit2
          April 20, 2013 at 12:09 pm

          Prettyfoot you’re exactly right. These mass killings that you mentioned are acts of terrorism – home grown terrorism. We don’t call something terrorism only when we can point fingers at a religion or ethnic minority group.

    • 111 Nena20409
      April 20, 2013 at 11:15 am

      Fox, John King of NY is now calling for surveillance on Muslims and Mosques………

      What worries me is Not their distortions. What worries me are the Dems’ reaction and how quickly they ditch their collective values. Righties know how to frame their narrative to win politically. The media would be there cheering them on. It is how the Dems react that We All should be vigilant to diffuse…….that would determine how the detractors win or not. 2014 is the Goal……allowing the right to frame this is what we Have to guard by any means necessary.

  26. 112 Vicki
    April 20, 2013 at 11:09 am

    Let’s not get too bent-out-of -shape by noise coming from Lindsay Graham/John mcCain.
    They Have To say something.
    Cannot let the great success by PBO and the Boston Police, FBI, etc. go unchallenged.
    POTUS, et al Wrapped up a Terrorist incident in 4 days!!! Four days!!!

    • 113 globalcitizenlinda
      April 20, 2013 at 11:29 am

      time span needs to be emphasized

    • 114 hgerhard
      April 20, 2013 at 11:42 am

      “… take care not to rush to judgment – not about the motivations of these individuals; certainly not about entire groups of people” – Pres. Barack Obama.
      It is not any kind of religion that makes individuals into terrorists, it is the destruction of values. Praying a dozen times a day is not a sign of a violent disposition – what matters is what stirs in the individuals’ hearts whether they pray or not. Terrorism is born when values have died. The worst response to terrorism is the further weakening of our values. I am immensely grateful that we have a President who reminds us of that whenever passions turn to hatred.

  27. 117 prettyfoot58
    April 20, 2013 at 11:25 am

    I love the pieces about Pete Williams…not only to give credit to him…but to point out what is truly missing in journalism…as practiced today on Cable News….

    Pete Williams and the threat to CNN


    CNN has long been thought of as the network people to turn to for breaking news. More people watch Fox News and MSNBC, but when the world is burning, you have to flip to CNN. The alternatives are too partisan and MSNBC doesn’t have newsgathering resources anyway.

    “MSNBC isn’t a news network — they don’t do news,” is something I’ve often heard folks at CNN say…
    MSNBC doesn’t need to “do news,” because they have the resources of NBC — they have Williams, Michael Isikoff, Richard Espositio and Jonathan Dienst, just to name a few…..


    This brings me to the WHPC….

    their constant badgering of PBO and their use of GOTCHA questions..is not about gathering information as pushing a point of view…



    What the Boston bombings taught me about journalism

    Judgment — knowing what is and isn’t news — is the single most important trait distinguishing good reporters from the rest of the pack.
    They are the sorts of things that all journalists (at least most of us) know intuitively.


    If these are the sort of principles that the WHPC studied…what happened…why are they so antagonistic of PBO and why do they push the GOP talking points..

    • 118 prettyfoot58
      April 20, 2013 at 11:28 am

      One other point….

      Cable “News” is more about entertainment and opinion….

    • 119 Obama Grandmama
      April 20, 2013 at 12:13 pm

      Upon checking my email last night I read some articles on Yahoo News and saw that CNN had an article about the bombers Aunt in Canada saying the boys were angels and this was a set-up scapegoating frame done by the US government against the brothers. How irresponsible was that reporting?
      Also heard on NPR this morning that Senator Grassley was questioning the immigration work being pushed. I had privately wondered if this case could influence the work on Immigration? I certainly hope not but give the opposition any argument and they will run with it.

  28. 120 Nena20409
    April 20, 2013 at 11:29 am

    Just an honest question and I an seeking knowledge here….so please excuse my ignorance.

    In 2009/2010 with the underwear Bomber……his dad went to the Embassy and told on his son as a radical youth……intending on doing the wrong thing. Now that was under the jurisdiction of what agency again…..the State Dept or the Intel Dept?

    Then in 2011 this 26 yrs old, the Russians had issues with him for whatever reason…..was that under The State Dept, Homeland dept or the Intel Dept?

    Then Benghazi in Sept 2012…..that was the State Dept and Intel.

    If all 3 were State Dept primarily, then the former SoS has a lot to explain?

    • April 20, 2013 at 11:57 am

      Good morning Nena. I posed the same question some threads back but received no response. The underwear bomber’s father met with the CIA. The FBI investigated the marathon bombers, and Benghazi was a CIA outpost. Benghazi was not an Embassy. The fact that there were nearly 30 CIA stationed there answers why everyone wasn’t up in arms about an attack. The questions should never have been directed at Hillary Clinton and the State Department, but Petraeus who headed the CIA, but as you will recall, he conveniently resigned.

      Part of the problem is there are too many agencies under the covert umbrella…17, I think.

      • 122 Nena20409
        April 20, 2013 at 12:17 pm

        Thanks FayPax. So the CIA Dept is the one in charge here…..or rather, should have had the oversight? Until May or so in 2011, Penetta was the CIA head, was he Not?

        Then Penetta has some explaining to do……for Petraeus became the CIA director in the mid-2011….Benghazi was under him.

      • 126 nathkatun7
        April 20, 2013 at 5:10 pm

        Benghazi was a Consulate. Consulates are part of U.S. Diplomatic missions in foreign countries and are therefore under the supervision of the State Department. While they may have been CIA people attached to the Benghazi Consulate, it’s erroneous to call it “a CIA outpost.” As to Hillary Clinton being SoS, I don’t think she has anything to explain unless there is evidence that she failed to act when told of plots to attack the Consulate.

  29. April 20, 2013 at 11:32 am

    Hi Chips and my fellow TOD’ers. Great round up Chips hope everyone have a wonderful day

  30. 129 globalcitizenlinda
    April 20, 2013 at 11:36 am

    where & how did the two brothers (Boston Marathon Bombing Suspects) get their guns? how does the rejection of gun violence prevention legislation facilitate such access? I heard that Suspect 1 had a prior domestic-violence charge – same charge that would have been addressed by the universal background check

    • 130 Nena20409
      April 20, 2013 at 11:48 am

      The 26 yrs old has an incident with domestic violence in 2009…..so were those weapons purchased by the 19 yrs old? I had always thought that a person with a domestic violent background was denied the right for purchasing guns. Unless…..they were all purchased at the gun shows…….more likely?

      • April 20, 2013 at 12:00 pm

        Well, how would anyone know if they don’t do background checks? It’s all so stupid!

        • 132 Nena20409
          April 20, 2013 at 12:21 pm

          Yep, you bet……The more reason our side….the 90% plus to re-frame the Gun Safety debate with vigor and we must demand, using savvy tactic to put those in denial on the defense. That is what MADD did with DUI and that is what We need to do to overcome ideological bat poop logic.

  31. April 20, 2013 at 11:41 am

    • 134 utaustinliberal
      April 20, 2013 at 12:01 pm

      True. No one/the media didn’t question or stereotype Lanza and his mother based or their supposed religion and NRA ties. They weren’t questioned as to the fact that their easy access to assault weapons was very disturbing, the mother’s extremist world view wasn’t questioned or examined after law enforcement conducted their investigation, the NRA wasn’t held up to media ridicule and scorn for the fact that 26 individuals (20 of them being children) were brutally murdered by one of their own. Yet now the media wants to lay everything at so called radicalized Islam, the suspects growing beards, and smoking pot for the Boston bombing before law enforcement officials go about due process.

      Newtown was homegrown terrorism at its most frightening but the media let the NRA slide because hey, when you brutally murder 26 individuals with assault weapons and a handgun, it’s not terrorism, noooooo….you’re just “misunderstood.”

      • 135 LDS
        April 20, 2013 at 1:48 pm

        UT, you have just expressed what I have been feeling in so many ways. I know this post is long gone. I am just catching up had to walk in CP today just to stay calm . After walking I just could not believe how Lanza, his mother, and surviving family were just left alone by the media and nothing explored. This is crazy. I thank you and HF2 for bringing it front and center way up above. Lanza and his other were terrorists. She taught her son how to shot and hate. He turned on her first. The media let them slide without questioning their motives, actions or religious beliefs.

      • 136 nathkatun7
        April 20, 2013 at 5:13 pm

        Amen, UT! You expressed so well everything I wanted to say.

  32. 137 Nena20409
    April 20, 2013 at 11:43 am


    John King is truly an offensive guy.

    Wow….advance technology is great……but when it is used to take advantage of others….I cringe. They now have the photos of the dead 26 yrs old. No Doubt, the picture was the work of a smart phone. How sad indeed.

    • April 20, 2013 at 12:06 pm

      John King is thuggish to me.
      Just wanted you to know I addressed your question regarding our intel. I never know when anyone has responded to me, so I assume no one else does. I think it an important observation.

      • 139 Nena20409
        April 20, 2013 at 12:29 pm

        Thank you.

        I observe things in a different way at times. On Wednesday, I was able to figure out how this was unfolding. My worry then, though I never wrote it here was how the Right would frame this horrific incident once their was a Chechen/Muslim Connection. It is starting already. It is up to many of Us to stand firm and push back…..for Roves and Co would be salivating to use this to push for a 2014 victory. This, I know for sure.

        • April 20, 2013 at 12:37 pm

          I agree Nena, but the problem with Democrats is we’re too practical and nice. We need to stomp our feet harder, yell louder and cuss sometimes. Someone put it perfectly…”our passion is a mile wide and an inch deep”.

      • 141 nathkatun7
        April 20, 2013 at 5:19 pm

        I did, but I come here late so probably you and Nena didn’t see my comment. I think you made an error calling Benghazi “a CIA outpost.” The attack in Benghazi was on a U.S. Consulate. U.S. Consulates are part of Diplomatic missions in Foreign countries and are under the supervision of the State Department.

      • 142 nathkatun7
        April 20, 2013 at 5:22 pm

        I hope both you and Nena meant NY Congressman Peter King and not CNN reporter John King. The article Nena linked to is about Peter King not John King.

  33. April 20, 2013 at 11:46 am

  34. 144 desertflower
    April 20, 2013 at 11:49 am


    We Don’t Have A Department Of Precrime, People
    Posted by Zandar
    So everyone asking “Why didn’t we arrest and deport Tamerlan Tsarnaev two years ago?” needs to understand at that point he hadn’t committed any crimes, and you need to just sit down and shut the hell up.

  35. 147 amk for obama
    April 20, 2013 at 11:49 am

    Tens of thousands of anti-government protesters blocked a major motorway in Bahrain ahead of Sunday’s F1 Grand Prix in the Gulf kingdom.

    Some in the crowd carried banners with the slogan: “Don’t race on our blood.”

    The rally along Budaiya Highway followed a night of heavy clashes between demonstrators and security forces.

    Activists have demanded that F1 bosses cancel the race due to Bahrain’s poor human rights record.

    The race, which was first run in Bahrain in 2004, was cancelled two years ago following the forced clearance of a Manama landmark, Pearl Roundabout.

    In the unrest that followed more than 50 people died, hundreds were arrested and thousands dismissed from their jobs.


  36. 148 hopefruit2
    April 20, 2013 at 11:51 am

    This is worth repeating. Yet there was no rush by the MSM or anyone else to link this crime to any group or faction. The guy was a card-carrying NRA member yet we didn’t find that out until 3 months after the tragedy. And it was not discussed at any length in the MSM at any time. The whole focus of the MSM in regards to the Newtown killing was “mental illness” and how “terrible” mental health services in the US are.

    • 149 utaustinliberal
      April 20, 2013 at 12:03 pm

      I think you’re in my mind….hahahaha….

      Check my response to Chipsticks. She posted the same tweet.

      • 150 hopefruit2
        April 20, 2013 at 12:07 pm

        LOL – yes I think we’re all on the same wavelength here. We have to be prepared to mount some massive pushback and keep reminding others (as prettyfoot58 did) that the Tuscan, Aurora and Newtown killings all had elements of terrorism – and were all inflicted by radicalized extremists of various sorts, yet there was never a rush to brand them as belonging to a particular religion or group.

        • 151 nathkatun7
          April 20, 2013 at 5:28 pm

          Hopefruit and Utaustinliberal, thank you for staying strong and refusing to put up with the hypocrisy and BS from the media.

  37. 152 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    April 20, 2013 at 11:53 am

    Good morning, TOD! Bittersweet day — the birthday of my late Aunt, who was a second mom to me; anniversary of adopting my sons; and the birthday of the driver that killed my oldest son. ‘Life 101’ Yet, I continue to give total praise! Skip to 0:57 and enjoy…

    • 153 HZ
      April 20, 2013 at 2:22 pm

      (((((((((((( Alycee, hugs of love to comfort you, and many thanks for this song to lift you up.)))))))))))))HZ

      But, Alycee, I am lying here exhausted and replenshing my emotions that I gratefully sent forth to our president, and Gov. Patrick and All who protected us and worked so hard to bring us out of this first chapter. And there I come upon your comment. This songs is one of my dependency lift me ups in my down times. I want to thank you so much for placing it here this morning. The young men are so gifted. I taught voice, and I just love their control and phrasing. Sound is excellent and so deliciously glorious.______(((((((((((((( Thank you so much, special Alycee))))))))))))) I needed this this morning.HZ

  38. 154 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    April 20, 2013 at 12:03 pm

  39. 168 Asher in Boston
    April 20, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    Sigh of relief here in Mass. Thanks for your prayers. Now, let’s wait for the law to take its course. This BS about blaming an entire religion, group or country is really sad. Now that the suspects turned out to be white, they then larch on to their religion. What shows that if someone prays five times a day, then they have to be radicalized or terrorists to be? In Islam, one of their tenets is praying 5x a day. Some do, some don’t, but it does signify one being a radical Moslem. I have family that belong to all religious sects and muslim relatives and friends and I refuse to sit by as they are branded as terrorists or radical moslems.

    Thank you all on here that are fighting this otheriizing of all muslims and Islam as a religion. There’re bad bad people in all sects/ groups. Its even getting tiring to always fight back on painting Islam, “dark-skinned people” with a broad brush whenever one of them commits a crime.

  40. 170 Dakota
    April 20, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    Morning TOD Family.

    I spent most of last night lurking, because in the midst of everything that was going on, hubby decided to install Roku and needed my input and advice on EVERY LITTLE THING!!! (Breathe, Breathe). But it’s ok, I love him, doggone it!

    As always Chips Darlin’, I thank you for this place of sanity and passionate, respectful discussion as well as accurate and sensible reporting…and lots of laughs thrown in despite the seriousness of the circumstances. I prayed so hard for everyone involved in this tragedy that my I gave myself a headache.

    I’m SOOOO happy our beloved and courageous President has no events planned for this weekend. He deserves to spend quality time with his beautiful family. It’s interesting…when 9/11 happened, I never believed for one moment that Bush was in control of anything, but I have complete faith in PBO. This country is seeing, if they didn’t see it before, that you cannot screw around with this President. If he says he will get you, make no mistake, he will.

    Heartfelt thanks to the Boston Police and the FBI. They kept an entire city safe under the most difficult of circumstances. And God bless the extraordinary citizens who ran toward the danger instead of away. This is who we are and it makes me proud.

    • 171 HZ
      April 20, 2013 at 2:33 pm

      So beautifully said, Dakota. I will just say you closed it with what was on my heart. We will move forward for our fight will require total support for our beloved President and Vice President and the families who will be laying their loved ones to rest, and for all of the families who are still standing in need of a physical-medical healing.

      Pray for the healing of peace to rest upon the people of Boston. We Are One, America who love, live with a sound mind, and have a strength of power to move through all of this. We support you, Mr. President, and please Mr. President, get some relaxation and time with your beautiful and loving family and dearest friends.

      Have a lovely day, Chips and thank you so much for our beautiful home here. (((((Love You))))))))HZ

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