“Inane political discussion about …. right nouns and verbs”

Thanks Amk


Endless thanks again to Liberal Librarian for his beautiful post tonight – if you haven’t read it, see below:

172 Responses to ““Inane political discussion about …. right nouns and verbs””

  1. 6 prettyfoot58
    April 15, 2013 at 10:26 pm


  2. 7 amk for obama
    April 15, 2013 at 10:27 pm

    Thanks chips. She was good today.

    • April 15, 2013 at 10:29 pm

      Thank you Amk, missed her earlier, loved what she said, spot on.

    • 10 carolyn
      April 15, 2013 at 10:30 pm

      She loves Boston, she loves the Red Sox…..this hit her at a visceral level.

      • 11 amk for obama
        April 15, 2013 at 10:34 pm

        I like it when the journos are calm and collected and report facts instead of all the hand waving, unwanted belligerence and shouting that seems to be the norm today.

        • 12 carolyn
          April 15, 2013 at 10:40 pm

          So do I amk. That was why I so appreciated Scott Pelley and the CBS coverage today. Calm, collected, factual, no conjecture, good old fashioned journalism.

          • 13 amk for obama
            April 15, 2013 at 10:44 pm

            When I was studying in US in late eighties, cbs was my go-to news station. Regular watcher of 60 minutes and dan rather. Used to have arguments with peter jennings fan friends of mine on who is better. None of us cared for brokaw even then. 🙂

            Glad pelley is trying to some real journalism here.

  3. 14 amk for obama
    April 15, 2013 at 10:28 pm

  4. April 15, 2013 at 10:31 pm

    We are blessed to have President Obama in charge with the great team he has chosen. He has the leadership skills to get us through this.

  5. 16 anniebella
    April 15, 2013 at 10:32 pm

    So what’s their problem? These idiots are upset that POTUS didn’t use the word terrorists.

    • 17 jessica
      April 15, 2013 at 10:34 pm

      Yep the media will be singing this song for a minute.

      • 18 hopefruit2
        April 15, 2013 at 10:39 pm

        But watch what happens if the suspect turns to be white American and/or RWNJ. If that turns out to be the case the MSM drops that word from their vocabulary faster than you can say the word “go.”

  6. April 15, 2013 at 10:34 pm

    • 20 Joy
      April 15, 2013 at 10:38 pm

      not a nice looking picture, is it just me, but looks like a devilish cat in the middle?

      • 25 Joy
        April 15, 2013 at 10:50 pm

        Great song, and video Carol. Our barenaked ladies are strong advocates of the earth. We had some times with the barenaked ladies trying to shut down our mills here on Vancouver Island. I understand his advocacy but I don’t understand how he thinks that he would like to shut down everyones work, while he makes his millions. Barenaked ladies are a bit of a fluff here. There songs are great, but their advocacy is a little too strong in Canada. And I’m not referring to the oil sands, I’m referring to paper mills.

  7. 29 Joy
    April 15, 2013 at 10:35 pm

    Didn’t realize my comments on the last thread were at the end of the thread, want to pass on my thoughts of the Boston marathon…I haven’t commented here in a very long time, but I do read this blog everyday. My heart goes out to the families of this unspeakable act in Boston today and to all that have suffered from it. Brings tears to my eyes once again for all the victims involved. The President’s words sounded very honest, and there is no doubt he and his team will find out who did this. My brother-in-law participated in the marathon just last year. Very sad, In Canada we are getting reports of people that have lost limbs and 2 dead. Is this Al-Qeida? Or is it the republican/tea-partiers? I would hope it is the first, but right now I don’t trust the right wing.

    • April 15, 2013 at 10:42 pm

      We are not speculating. Too many variables, not enough facts made public. Please trust President Obama and his team.

      • 31 Joy
        April 15, 2013 at 10:52 pm

        Yes, I understand there isn’t enough information yet to come to any conclusions. I trust the team of Barack Obama to come to their conclusions, but I hate the thought of even thinking that the tea partiers or republicans might have something to do with this.

  8. 33 jacquelineoboomer
    April 15, 2013 at 10:41 pm

    I’m late getting back to TOD, and started catching up a couple of threads ago. Please allow me to both applaud LL for his remarks on the last thread, so well stated, and also bring this over from a previous thread. I fully understand each word here. Thank you, Magapie!

    April 15, 2013 at 9:43 pm
    I HOPE NO ONE TAKES THIS THE WRONG WAY. (STOP YELLING MAGAPIE!!!) Today was horrific, BUT…….. We are so fortunate in this country. And THANK YOU to Homeland Security and police women and men and all of our devoted GOVERNMENT (hello!) safety and security folks for all you are doing under constant criticism and derision. THIS KIND OF STUFF RARELY HAPPENS in this vast, diverse and VERY FREE society What do YOU want to do that you can’t do? WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT YOU CAN’T DO?? We are Americans and we LOVE to gather in big, festive groups and present easy, soft targets all across our country as a matter of tradition, life-styles and community. Yet we remain very safe. Remember post September 11th hysteria. DEAD. We’re ALL going to die SOON. Crop dusters!!! Anthrax!!! Poisened water systems! What did they call the radical plants that were supposedly EVERYWHERE?? Anyway….you know what I mean. The events today were horrible. but.

  9. 34 GGail
    April 15, 2013 at 10:43 pm

    Chipsticks, thank you for reposting LL’s powerful words on this thread. I am just getting home and trying to catch up on today’s devastating tragedy.


  10. 35 jackiegrumbacher
    April 15, 2013 at 10:45 pm

    Thanks for the post, Chips. Where does a person’s brain have to be to think a time of tragedy and horror calls for a discussion of language and politics? Any media that chooses to foist that kind of blathering idiocy on the public, needs to be shut out. Every decent American should turn off his/her TV tonight and go and hug their children and spouse, call a family member or loved friend, or find some thing to do that brings comfort, even if that means calories. Tomorrow, we can all do something positive–tell someone how much we love them, extend an unexpected act of kindness, donate blood that doesn’t go to Boston, stop by a church and light a candle or invite some neighbors over to talk about why it’s important NOT to be afraid. There are lots of things we can do to bring a little light into the world, but tuning into the media isn’t one of them.

    • April 15, 2013 at 10:49 pm

      “There are lots of things we can do to bring a little light into the world, but tuning into the media isn’t one of them.”

      That should be a tweet!!! Perfection, Jackie!!

    • 40 amk for obama
      April 15, 2013 at 10:50 pm

      Great advice jackie.

    • April 15, 2013 at 11:38 pm

      My son and his wife have run marathons. It’s a joy to be at the finish line whether they are first or last. In the first one Joy was first, Robby a couple hours behind. We enjoyed it all. We brought our two dogs and the kids waiting for their mother to finish had a great time walking them all over the park. They loved it too. There were about a hundred people there. Talked to many. Runners have a tremendous high when they have run a long ways. I’ve felt it a few times. I’ve observed it too. Grandma called concerned about Rob and Joy. They weren’t planning on going. Rob has run a marathon at 2:58, so he got better. Everyone’s heart is in Boston tonight. I heard some of the elite runners went to the hospitals or wherever and gave blood. It’s a shame the winners are not enjoying celebrations tonight. Also got in touch with a very good friend of Robby’s that we know who runs too. He didn’t run this year and is ok in Omaha. All runners from our small town have been in touch with the local paper to let them know they were ok. They told what they knew happened to them. Check your local papers. It’s a good chance someone in your area was there. As Republican as WY is, and my mother-in-law, they still care. No politics were brought up by either Grandma or our local paper. Let’s not become crazy. Well, I got a little off topic so I’m off to pet my pets. Hubby’s working nights, everyone’s been called. Safe in front of the fire. Expecting a snowstorm tonight. Weather happens. 🙂 on a lighter note, W is a Grandpa. It’s also Joy’s birthday.

    • 43 nathkatun7
      April 16, 2013 at 12:45 am

      Well said, Jackie G!

  11. April 15, 2013 at 10:46 pm

    • April 15, 2013 at 10:48 pm

      Reports are that the runner is 78 years old. He got up and finished the race – just to make the point of refusing to allow terror to prevail.

      • 46 Joy
        April 15, 2013 at 10:59 pm

        Bob, you don’t realize the mental mind behind these runners. They are nuts on their run. Nothing will take them down, they are pretty much silly and nutty about it. My brother-in-law ran it last year and trust me, nothing takes them down.

      • April 15, 2013 at 11:17 pm

        Heard he was on Pierce tonight. I draw the line at posting some people here.

    • 48 Nena20409
      April 15, 2013 at 11:06 pm

      Bless his heart. I am so pleased that this tough sweet man was OK after that fall.

    • April 16, 2013 at 12:06 am


      I’ve been watching ESPN for the last hour (the only “news” coverage I’ve tuned into) and this may be the 78 y.o. man they interviewed. He was close to the finish line when the explosions occurred. He did indeed finish and I got choked up listening to him. My heart goes out to all harmed today, and to all of us as we press on.

  12. April 15, 2013 at 10:46 pm

  13. April 15, 2013 at 10:49 pm

    • 55 jackiegrumbacher
      April 16, 2013 at 6:59 am

      Carol, my young niece works in admissions at Mass General. The horrors she saw were overwhelming to her, yet she said she was so incredibly proud of the way the whole staff, doctors, nurses, helpers, pulled together as one. Horror and pride, such a potent combination for a young woman in her first real job.

      • April 16, 2013 at 12:05 pm

        Jackie, your niece will be added to my prayer chain. We are proud of her and being in a position to help. I’m sorry she had to see those horrors. I do know how it affects first responders and those in an operating rooms. They have caring people for counseling. We are pround of her chosen profession. Is she a nurse or a different profession? (((HUGS))) to her and her co-workers.

      • April 16, 2013 at 12:07 pm

        Hugs to you too Jackie. You are empathetic and compassionate.

  14. April 15, 2013 at 10:50 pm

    • 59 Nena20409
      April 15, 2013 at 10:58 pm

      Mediaite has Bill O’Reilly using Nazism to equate his criticism to president Obama. May O’Reilly go straight to Blazes.

      • 60 anniebella
        April 15, 2013 at 11:06 pm

        How about this, let us forget what the haters is saying negative about our President . In other words I don’t want to hear any bull shit from them tonight, and it would be nice if everyone would not post what those haters are saying. I know you are free to say or post what you will, but sometimes it’s just goes to far and you get darn fed up with it.

      • April 15, 2013 at 11:07 pm

        Don’t let the crazies get under your skin. That is their plan. HOPE overcomes Fear. FORWARD. Yes we can.

        • 63 anniebella
          April 15, 2013 at 11:13 pm

          CarolMaeWY, if you are are talking to me, I appreciate it. And they won’t get under my skin, I just feel that this is a time for positive vibes, for hope, for love, for support, for prayer, not the same old right wing hatred toward our President.

  15. 65 Nena20409
    April 15, 2013 at 10:56 pm

    Since Jan 20, 2009…….How many crisis have this president faced?

    From a collapsed economy. 2 wars left for him. Destructive and Obstructive Opposition. Fox declaring itself the Opposition to this POTUS. MSM an entity that I truly believe has seeded racial animus against this president. BP Gulf Oil Spill. The Arab Spring. North Korea, Iran. Europe Financial crisis. Auto Crumbling. Debt Ceiling. Down-Grading of USA’s credit rating. Birthers. AK-47 totting near this president’s rally. Tea-party Uprising. Climate devastation. OBL. Re-election. Hatred. Terror…..under garment Bomber, Forte Hood, Shootings…..mass shootings. Boston Attacks. Etc, etc, etc……..

    They say that the Lord Almighty Never Gives one more than he/she can handle. I believe that. However, I am asking for smooth sailing for this POTUS from Now on. In Jesus Name, Amen.

  16. 70 Nena20409
    April 15, 2013 at 11:02 pm

    John Lennon…….Imagine

  17. 72 amk for obama
    April 15, 2013 at 11:03 pm

    • 73 nathkatun7
      April 16, 2013 at 1:04 am

      My cousin is a nurse in one of those Boston hospitals. Despite all my repeated attempts, I’ve not been able to get in touch with her. I am assuming that she is very busy taking care of all the people injured today. Jon is absolutely right. Just as we pray for the recovery of all the people injured to day, we need also to pray for the men and women working tonight in Boston hospitals taking care of all the victims of this senseless violence. This has to be one of the most difficult days in their lives.

  18. 74 amk for obama
    April 15, 2013 at 11:04 pm

  19. 75 amk for obama
    April 15, 2013 at 11:05 pm

    • 76 Jovie
      April 15, 2013 at 11:13 pm

      But but but it was a black man with a black shirt and a black back pack and a dark Saudi man that has been questioned in the Boston area Hospital and did I mention he was Saudi, again he was Saudi…

      Jeesh! Brainwash us right into another war. This is what they are up to. :(. 😦

  20. 77 amk for obama
    April 15, 2013 at 11:10 pm

    • 78 jacquelineoboomer
      April 15, 2013 at 11:33 pm

      President Obama even makes the point of perfection that a town is and should be proud of itself and how they’ll handle this going forward. Love that man.

  21. April 15, 2013 at 11:10 pm

    I have no skill at writing encouraging essays. I so appreciate LL and others here that have the skill. I’m trying to encourage everyone not to let the bastards get you down. NOT TODAY!

  22. 83 amk for obama
    April 15, 2013 at 11:10 pm

  23. 85 isonprize
    April 15, 2013 at 11:11 pm

    Not sure what happened on one of the threads where I posted “prayers up!” as a positive thought for Boston and all of the United States tonight.

    I will not speculate as to the details of what happened today. If there is one thing to be glad of, it’s that medical personnel and 1st responders were RIGHT THERE. I’m sure that this could have been even worse if that were not the case.

    I trust the training of the current 1st responders to do what they do best. I trust the FBI to investigate the incident and find out who was responsible for it. I trust my President to lead a nation tired of these assaults and prayerful for a better country.

    I hope that any of you who have loved ones in the Boston area have been able to contact them.

    Prayers up!

    • April 15, 2013 at 11:54 pm

      So agree isonprize. I think one thread got lost because of technical problems. Lots of breaking news. Chips is doing a great job keeping us informed, but tech difficulties happen.

      • 87 isonprize
        April 15, 2013 at 11:59 pm

        Yup, I know there have been tech difficulties. and yes, Chica does a FABULOUS job, as do all of the rest of the TOD blog team.

        I just wanted to add my prayers to all for Boston and anyone who have family and friends there. LOVE to the WORLD!!

        “Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.” – Martin Luther King, Jr

  24. 89 desertflower
    April 15, 2013 at 11:13 pm

    FBI is serving a search warrant in Revere, MA…..watching WCVB news

  25. 93 LDS
    April 15, 2013 at 11:14 pm

    Thank you Ms. Chips for this place of solace. Never once did I even think about turning on MSM. When I first heard the news I immediately begin to pray. Thank God for the prayer warriors at my place of worship. We all met up and began to pray for the people of Boston, this nation, our President and his family and the world. While praying I felt that it was not who people are suspecting, but homegrown who may have inflicted this unecessary pain.(just my gut feeling). I think Tally voiced this on one of the early threads.
    My prayer ended with….let the truth be revealed. The whole truth and nothing but the truth….

    These are desparate times and evil people will do desparate things. We are not to fear because in the Scripture Romans 8:28 let us know we have no need to fear. That empty dark place is replaced with faith and hope. What an excellent post from our own LL! The right words for the right time whose hearts are hurting.
    May God bless the people who were injured, the families of the lives loss and the people who reached out to help those in need. The words of our President were just what we needed to keep the faith and encourage one another as we go through this together.

  26. 98 a4alice
    April 15, 2013 at 11:19 pm

    night folks. get some sleep everyone.

  27. 100 anniebella
    April 15, 2013 at 11:25 pm

    When President Obama is saying that at times like this we are not Republicans or Democrats, we are all Americans, we have those right wingnuts spewing the same old hate. it’s disgusting.

  28. April 15, 2013 at 11:25 pm

    Revere is a suburb of Boston.

    • 102 Nena20409
      April 15, 2013 at 11:29 pm

      There is No doubt in my mind that Our Guys would get him/them. No Doubt about that.

    • April 15, 2013 at 11:50 pm

      Thanks HF, I thought it might be the vehicle. I think I’ll wait to get drawn into any of the news reports. I still remember the white van theory in the D.C. area shootings. Let’s just wait for confirmation. I appreciate the updates, but keeping an open mind. 😉

  29. 104 sabreen60
    April 15, 2013 at 11:26 pm

    Good evening TODers. I’ve been in a quiet place today trying to make sense of what is non-sensical . I have been lurking and I so appreciate reading your words of wisdom and compassion. We will continue on regardless of who did this heinous act. There will be more marathons in Boston and anywhere else we choose. We will not be afraid. As FDR said, the only thing to fear is fear itself.

  30. 109 MightyPamela
    April 15, 2013 at 11:28 pm

    April 15, 2013 at 10:45 pm
    After a late day spring storm, complete with thunder and lightning, I stood at the window to witness a huge rainbow, away over the lake: a reminder of the covenant. L’arc du ciel, joining Heaven and Earth, the promise remains intact. Goodnight, may dreams of a brighter day tomorrow be yours. Love all around. Bless our President and First Lady.

  31. 111 CEB
    April 15, 2013 at 11:31 pm

    Good night everyone. May your dreams bring you peace.

  32. 112 hopefruit2
    April 15, 2013 at 11:31 pm

    • 113 Jovie
      April 15, 2013 at 11:43 pm

      I know right where that is, when I was a kid, I used to go to Revere beach. They had the biggest Roller coaster in the world before the fire.
      Nice area, ashame somebody allegedly using it as a Home Base, so to speak!

  33. April 15, 2013 at 11:43 pm

    Prayers for the family and loved ones of Boston. Every one please pray for me and my family. The hubby is on a respirator, son is having difficult time dealing. Grateful to my sister who dropped everything and flew down in record speed yesterday to be with me. If you are a praying person, please pray for us and the people of Boston tonight.

    Good night all. My bed calls. Eyes barely can stay open.

  34. 129 daisydem
    April 15, 2013 at 11:51 pm

    Neil Diamond just posted on Facebook that he is thinking of Boston.

  35. 130 amk for obama
    April 15, 2013 at 11:57 pm

  36. 132 isonprize
    April 16, 2013 at 12:02 am

    “Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.” – Martin Luther King, Jr

    • 133 jacquelineoboomer
      April 16, 2013 at 12:07 am

      Perfect quote to remind us of, tonight. Thanks.

    • 135 nathkatun7
      April 16, 2013 at 1:20 am

      Thank you so much Isonprize for sharing these words of wisdom from Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. They are so appropriate for this tragic day in Boston.

    • April 16, 2013 at 2:31 am

      I think that quote is beamed on a screen somewhere in Broklyn. I didn’t catch the statement completely by Rachel. She did alright tonight. Lawrence was great. Think he is from Boston.

  37. 137 jacquelineoboomer
    April 16, 2013 at 12:06 am

  38. 141 jacquelineoboomer
    April 16, 2013 at 12:12 am

  39. 149 globalcitizenlinda
    April 16, 2013 at 12:27 am

    it has been a hard day. Prayers for everyone

  40. 150 desertflower
    April 16, 2013 at 12:31 am

    Night all….

  41. April 16, 2013 at 1:01 am

    #1 son reported he knew two people running in Boston Marathon today. One came in fourth, the other later, but both out of there before bombs went off. He’s in Denver and he was late getting home. Getting pounded with snow. Glad he rides a bus called the Ride. Thinks it’s on rails now. Now that I’m thinking of my #1, I’m wondering how cookemom’s #2 is doing with film. Also another mom.

  42. April 16, 2013 at 1:03 am

  43. 154 isonprize
    April 16, 2013 at 1:31 am

    I noticed that Paul Begala used the fourth verse of America the Beautiful in a tweet earlier this evening.

    Most everyone knows the first verse, but Ray Charles always started off with the third verse of this beautiful song.

    O beautiful for heroes prov’d
    In liberating strife,
    Who more than self their country lov’d,
    And mercy more than life.

    America! America!
    May God thy gold refine
    Till all success be nobleness,
    And ev’ry gain divine.

      • 156 isonprize
        April 16, 2013 at 1:46 am

        Given everything that Mr. Charles went thru in his life, it is moving to me that he still loved this country.

        Even as I bitch and moan about people afflicted with ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome) and how bad our education system has become, I too, love this country of mine. Probably not in the “patriotic” sense that the hacks that we have as news readers would have us believe; it’s more complicated than that – much more complicated.

        Any way, I listen to Ray and know that we, as a country, will also survive this. My thoughts tonight are with the people of Boston. Peace…

  44. April 16, 2013 at 1:47 am

    It’s a small, small world. My son is an acquaintance of the fourth place finisher. They ran in Las Vegas together. My son and his wife live in Boulder County. Think they have been to the Boulder training center if memory serves me right. An excerpt from Wikipedia: He came fourth at the Fifth Third River Bank Run in 2010, but preparations for the 2010 Chicago Marathon were interrupted by a break with his coach, Steve Jones. Jason Hartmann instead began training with Lee Troop, who was setting up a small elite group known as the Boulder Track Club in Boulder, Colorado. The coach change led to his best marathon finish of 2:11:06 hours for eighth place and he was the first American to cross the line. In May 2011 he beat Keflezighi to the top U.S. finish at the 100th Bay to Breakers.[11] He was runner-up in the Las Vegas Half Marathon with a time of 1:03:34. Hartmann had geared his preparations towards he 2012 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials, but finished far off his target of the top three as he ended the race in 32nd place.[3] Keen to make up for this disappointing performance, Hartmann set his eyes on the 2012 Boston Marathon . He decided to run tactically and stayed away from the leading pack. The leaders dramatically slowed in the heat while Hartmann worked his way up to field to eventually finish in fourth place (the only non-Kenyan to make the top six).[12][13]
    He should be at a celebration party tonight.

  45. April 16, 2013 at 1:51 am

    He should be at a celebration party tonight. 😦

  46. April 16, 2013 at 2:00 am

    Is it me or my computer, but I don’t see Lib_Librarian’s essay on this thread. No problem for me, I copied it and saved to notebook to reread when I felt down.

  47. April 16, 2013 at 2:02 am

    In case you missed it in earlier thread:

  48. April 16, 2013 at 2:33 am

    Be ready for the crazies out there. The conspiracy theories are already up on YouTube. Not worth our time, but they are out there. FYI.

  49. April 16, 2013 at 7:07 am

    OMG, this is horrific.

  50. 169 Linda
    April 16, 2013 at 8:11 am

    Mika embarrassed herself by not knowing that Peter King is no longer Chairman of the DHS committee…..but Congressman McCaul who is only in his second term was impressive for not jumping to conclusions.

  51. 170 dotster3
    April 16, 2013 at 8:30 am

  52. 172 Lovepolitics2008
    April 16, 2013 at 10:49 am

    I really pray that it is domestic terrorism. Because if it’s foreign, it just will raise the hatred and paranoïa towards muslims to a level that I think may become dangerous for muslim americans. In the last few years, the hard right has fanned the flames as much as they could. To imagine what they’ll do if the people behind the Boston bombings end up to be muslim extremists…

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