This and That

President Obama watches as Julia Pierson is sworn in as the first woman Director of the Secret Service by VP Biden in the Oval Office, March 27 (Photo: Pete Souza)


President Obama was interviewed by Univision and Telemundo today – the interviews are embargoed until 6:30PM EST



Steve Benen: After yesterday’s Supreme Court oral arguments on marriage rights and California’s Prop 8, court watchers and those on hand for the proceedings seemed reluctant to predict the outcome. It’s not just that speculation based solely on oral arguments is inherently risky, but also that real uncertainty hangs over the case.

That seems far less true 24 hours later. NBC’s Pete Williams told viewers this afternoon, “Again with the caveat, it’s always risky to predict, it does seem that there are at least five votes on the Supreme Court to strike down the Defense of Marriage Act.” Jeffrey Toobin added, “DOMA is in trouble.”

The New York Times report noted that Justice Kennedy “joined the four liberals in posing skeptical questions.”

More here



Charles Pierce: Today, in the second half of the marriage equality twin-bill before the Supreme Court, the Defense Of Marriage Act gets its day in front of the be-robed ladies and gentlemen, and we might at last be putting the 1996 presidential campaign, and the influence of political Svengali Dick Morris, behind us. We may see the end of the era of triangulation. Yesterday, it became clear to most observers that the Court was fully prepared to punt on the case involving California’s Proposition 8, letting the issue devolve back to the states. That is not an option here. Either DOMA’s denial of over 1000 federal benefits and protections available to straight couples is constitutional or it is not. There are a number of reasons why it may not be, most of them involving such fundamental constitutional principles as equal protection of the laws, the full faith and credit clause, and the enumerated powers of the Congress. Politically, however, the law is both preposterous and obsolete.

More here



McClatchy: President Obama will meet Thursday with mothers who want to see gun control efforts succeed, the White House says, amid questions of whether gun control legislation is lagging, some 100 days after the school shooting in Connecticut.

Obama will meet with law enforcement officials, victims of gun violence and other “stakeholders,” spokesman Josh Earnest said. The event comes as Obama’s gun violence prevention proposals have faced a series of roadblocks: Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., last week announced that an assault weapons ban she championed won’t be included in the larger gun bill Democrats will introduce on the Senate floor next month.

More here


Joe Deaser (The Hill): As a proud gun store owner, an avid outdoorsman, and a lifetime member of the National Rifle Association, I know that recreational firearm use can be a safe, family-friendly activity that builds community and benefits everyone who takes part. But I also know that with our constitutional right to bear arms comes a responsibility to protect our loved ones and our neighbors from the devastating effects of gun violence.

In order to do just that, my fellow gun owners must come together to support perhaps the most logical and pragmatic gun safety measure currently under consideration in Washington: expanding the existing background check system to require criminal background checks for each and every gun sale.

More here



Charles Pierce: Senator Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota is rapidly moving to the top of the leader board for this year’s Al From Trophy, which the blog hands out annually to its least favorite putative Democrat. (The scramble for the cup has become frenzied since the retirement of perennial contenders Evan Bayh and Joe Lieberman, who were the Frazier and Ali of disreputable political sellouts.) Today, she pretty much told Michael Bloomberg to keep those (black) criminals in New York City in line before he spends all his (newyorkjew) money up in Jesusland to tell the people there what’s what about their shootin’ ‘arns.

…. according to the rookie senator, gun violence is not a national issue requiring national solutions, because that might inconvenience her in her increasingly ridiculous home state.

More here



Sun-Times: First Lady Michelle Obama returns home to Chicago on April 10 to address youth violence in Chicago, marking her first local move to deal with reducing crime in her city.

According to the White House, Mrs. Obama will speak at a “Joint Luncheon Meeting: Working Together to Address Youth Violence in Chicago,” hosted by Mayor Rahm Emanuel, which will include members of Chicago’s leading civic organizations: the Commercial Club, the Economic Club, the Executives’ Club, and World Business Chicago.

More here





Steve Benen: It’s been about two weeks since Brian Beutler coined a helpful phrase: “sequestration NIMBYism.” Republicans love the sequester policy they hated as recently as last month, and think it’s terrific that these deep, mindless spending cuts have taken effect.

But they’re not at all pleased about sequestration cuts that hurt their own constituents…

More here


Vice President Joe Biden participates in a post-game cheer with the University of Delaware’s Lady Blue Hens in their locker room after their 78-69 victory over the University of North Carolina in the 2nd round of the NCAA playoffs, at Bob Carper Arena in Newark

More here



Morning/afternoon/evening all – HUUUUUUGE thanks again to UT for this morning’s Rise and Shine

285 Responses to “This and That”

  1. March 27, 2013 at 6:43 pm

  2. 10 Proud Former White House Intern
    March 27, 2013 at 6:43 pm

    That and This

  3. 11 vitaminlover
    March 27, 2013 at 6:45 pm

    I like the expression on Vice-President Biden’s face during the swearing in.

  4. March 27, 2013 at 6:46 pm

    I reached my limit on tweeting! I should say retweeting. What is the limit? I think one was original. What a day of getting nothing much done. Glad to see everyone else is busy. Thanks for all the great this & that Chipsticks. πŸ˜€

  5. March 27, 2013 at 6:48 pm

    Another strong woman joins the Obama administration!

  6. 15 Nena20409
    March 27, 2013 at 6:52 pm

    Thanks Chips.

    Congrats to CarolmaeMY and PFWHI for both getting the First πŸ˜‰

    Good Evening TODers ❗

  7. 17 utaustinliberal
    March 27, 2013 at 6:54 pm

    Fantastic round-up Chiparoo.

  8. 22 hopefruit2
    March 27, 2013 at 6:57 pm

    Bringing this from the previous thread….Ms. Karma has paid Baby Jane Hamsher a visit. πŸ™‚

  9. 54 Ladyhawke
    March 27, 2013 at 7:01 pm


    Press Briefing by Principal Deputy Press Secretary Josh Earnest, 03/27/2013


    Q So, finally, just to be clear here, so the President hasn’t changed his mind about stepping back, letting Congress work this out, and not inserting himself as he did on Monday and as he is a little bit today with the Spanish-language media? That’s not reasserting himself into the process at this point?

    MR. EARNEST: Well, I’ll let you guys sort of evaluate whether or not the President is asserting himself or inserting himself into the process. The President has beliefs. The President campaigned on and won reelection on a platform of pursuing comprehensive immigration reform early in his second term. That is a promise that the President has followed through on. The reason — one of the important reasons that immigration reform is such a legislative priority for both sides is because of the public support that the President has marshaled on this issue.

    So it is natural that the President would be involved in the process of putting together a policy that would finally fix our broken immigration system. But in this case, we have allowed a bipartisan group of senators, at their request, to take the lead in the conversations about a bipartisan compromise in the United States Senate. Those are conversations that we’ve been involved with from the beginning, but we’re pleased that we see this group of eight senators — Democrats and Republicans — working together to try to put in place a policy that could pass through the Senate with bipartisan support, could pass through the House with bipartisan support, and would be the kind of legislation that the President could sign. That’s the way that the system is supposed to work.



  10. March 27, 2013 at 7:04 pm

    Grammar, corrected ….

    Yes We Can

  11. 56 FiredUpInCA
    March 27, 2013 at 7:10 pm

    Remember this bogus Esquire story?

    “Navy SEAL who killed Osama bin Laden on May 1, 2011 was a year ago “wondering how he was going to feed his wife and kids or pay for their medical care.” According to Bronstein, the answer is (read these words carefully): “[A]fter sixteen years in the Navy, his body filled with scar tissue, arthritis, tendonitis, eye damage, and blown disks, here is what he gets from his employer and a grateful nation: Nothing. No pension, no health care, and no protection for himself or his family.”

    Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2013/02/12/esquire-falsely-claims-soldier-who-killed-bin-laden-gets-no-health-care#ixzz2OmgCLYdn

    Well it turns out HIS WHOLE STORY is bogus. He was not the shooter.

    “Sure he was there, and deserves credit but he wasn’t the man who shot [bin Laden], and ended his life. And this is an important fact that must be clarified. The actual shooter… has continued to maintain his professional integrity and has not come forward with the story, and most likely never will. Looks like Esquire and Bronstein are the ones who are really screwed, not their interviewee; our sources say he’s off cashing large checks from unsuspecting donors who bought the Esquire pity piece.”


    • 57 hopefruit2
      March 27, 2013 at 7:19 pm

      Interesting…I always had my suspicions. Another visit from Ms. Karma is in order…

      • 58 Nena20409
        March 27, 2013 at 7:34 pm

        Karma, Karma, Karma, Karma, Chameleon…..is all over Brownstein……a Weasel he has always exhibited, always will be.

        He married Sharon Stone or so….could not make that marriage work. His beef with then sen Obama and now pres Obama. I truly can’t stand the man. I GLOAT. I LOL for the egg on his face.

        • 59 hopefruit2
          March 27, 2013 at 7:42 pm

          Seriously, the temptation to GLOAT is overwhelming, virtually irresistible at this point. I succumb.

    • 60 4morefor44
      March 27, 2013 at 7:24 pm

      didn’t that fake story come out right before the election too? they did to try to away yet another of president obama’s accomplishments.

      • 61 Nena20409
        March 27, 2013 at 7:35 pm

        Yep and it was on Oct 22 or so. They claimed it was Not political. Their efforts failed woefully. πŸ˜†

    • March 27, 2013 at 7:42 pm

      Not disagreeing, I just thought the so-called shooter kept his identity secret from public, not Esquire. Did Esquire get checks and give to him? Is the fraud here? I’m sick of the media giving us false information, leaking security issues with Sasha and Malia. I’m all for a free-press. I want that’s not corrupt.

      • 64 japa21
        March 27, 2013 at 7:50 pm

        Esquire challenged that report and made some good points. Go to Pierce’s site and go down a few posts.

        • March 27, 2013 at 8:12 pm

          Saw that and not surprised that Warren would challenge it. So, I’ll just suggest that several people likely know exactly who shot OBL (1 or more than 1 shooter, possible). I’ll also suggest that the Admiral, and others, have lots of very good reasons not to be specific as to how they know.

          Time will tell … but, in my gut, I think the ‘pity party’ Bronstein hosted was just that. And, that the actual shooter may well have revealed himself (or some else did) to Weber because they were pissed at the lack of professional integrity that is undeniable in the behavior of ‘the shooter.’

          But, what also needs careful consideration is this:

          ” What I want to know is whether the conversation Bronstein claims to have had with this Navy SEAL (‘the shooter’) about the availbility of healthcare benefits occurred before or after the Esquire story was published. As already noted, either possible answer is damning.”


          Finally, typo corrected in the tweet:

          Thank you Japa!!

    • 66 nathkatun7
      March 27, 2013 at 8:44 pm

      Today, Esquire posted a vigorous defense of their story. Right now I am conflicted on who to believe.

  12. 67 cookemom
    March 27, 2013 at 7:19 pm

    Judd has decided not to run for the Senate from Kentucky. Don’t know if that’s been posted here yet.

    • 68 hopefruit2
      March 27, 2013 at 7:20 pm

      Yup – It’s been on the last thread πŸ™‚

      • 69 anniebella
        March 27, 2013 at 7:44 pm

        Sorry to hear that about Ashley Judd not running, but I believe somewhere their is someone out there who can defeat that dam ugly hateful turtle Mitch McConnell.

  13. March 27, 2013 at 7:24 pm

  14. March 27, 2013 at 7:25 pm

    Another week of no weight bearing, one more follow-up to ortho in a week, we shall have to see. Have been told to expect the full 6 weeks to heal, as “that’s how bones are”….. So. Here I shall stay. I suppose. {{{{{{Chipsticks}}}}}}} {{{{{PBO}}}}} {{{{TOD}}}}

    • March 27, 2013 at 7:27 pm

      Stay the course, MightyP!!! Allow it to heal and you won’t regret it. All the best!!

    • March 27, 2013 at 7:27 pm

      Pamela!!!! Oh flip, this has been a long road for you. Is it causing you any pain?

      • March 27, 2013 at 7:36 pm

        Indeed, Chipsticks, a long road. Pain is decreasing, as I have learned how to not re-injure, and am having to learn ‘limits’, if you can believe it! (what will VC say to that, I wonder)… Anyway, 5 weeks to go. I think the only thing available to me now is to, well, rest. For cryin’ out loud…… 😳 πŸ˜†

        • March 27, 2013 at 7:40 pm

          Oh crikey flip, you poor thing! Well, KNOW YOUR LIMITS – and rest, rest, rest! We don’t want you hobbling around in here, finely tuned athletes only!

          • March 27, 2013 at 7:53 pm

            A you sayin’ you have a problem with my crutches? I’ll have you know….. I was a ballet skier (oh, a while ago) and at the clinic today they were VERY impressed with my aerobic skill on one foot with these sticks under my arms….. I can even go in reverse without scaring anyone!

    • March 27, 2013 at 7:48 pm

      Take care of you. I once had toe surgery and Doc was very strict about keeping the bandages clean too. πŸ’πŸŒ· I’ve reached my tweety limit. 😦

    • 82 cookemom
      March 27, 2013 at 7:55 pm

      Make no bones about it MightyPam, it’s six weeks, no more, no less. The good news? That bone will be the strongest one in your body. If will be nearly bionic in nature. Oh and do not use a hanger or any other sharp object to scratch the itchy that is sure to come as the skin starts to flake away. There’s a talc powder that comes in a pressurized canister with a long skinny tube that shoots the powder down into the cast. It’s sold in some drugstores and most hospital supply type places. Good luck to you and forgive the opening pun.

  15. 83 4morefor44
    March 27, 2013 at 7:27 pm

    i must say i’m very happy to see a obama-picked leader of the secret service. the previous one was put in place by w. bush which always made me a little nervous. turns out the guy did a good job though, but still…nice to see julia pierson take that oath!

  16. 84 hopefruit2
    March 27, 2013 at 7:29 pm

  17. 86 lamh36
    March 27, 2013 at 7:30 pm

    Alright, alright alright, I FINALLY got my Wii hooked up to my WiFi network and now my Netflix streaming is ready to go!!!! Yes!

  18. March 27, 2013 at 7:31 pm

    Yes We Can

    • 91 nathkatun7
      March 27, 2013 at 8:51 pm

      Bob, This is such a common sense solution! I am puzzled as to why members of Congress have not embraced it. Sen. Diane Feinstein is my senator and I am going to send her, and Sen. Barbara Boxer, e-mails to urge them to introduce legislation requiring “mandatory liability insurance for gun & ammo makers, sellers & users.”

      • March 28, 2013 at 12:39 am

        Thank you nath!!!

        Sometimes I think they fail to see the obvious – they need a major ‘enterprise’ partner and the insurance industry is the ideal partner because they ONLY make $$ by mitigating RISK, as you well know.

        If liability insurance is mandatory for makers, sellers and users (not just owners) of guns and ammo, the dynamics will be multidimensional (background checks, mental health exams, training (regularly repeated), proof of safety skills, adoption of safety measures, licensing (and renewal of licenses) are just a few of the dimensions that would become routine if an individual or a company (of any size) wanted to qualify for insurance.

        And, the demarcation of criminality would no longer be obscure – criminals are anyone or any group, organization, corporation, whatever – fired a gun without liability insurance irrespective of why the fired the gun or the consequence of firing it (which could have other legal penalties applied).

        I do hope the President and VP read this letter and hope others will use any or all of it (no attribution required):

        25 March 2013

        Dear Mr President (and VP Biden),

        I’m convinced (and I’m hardly alone) that until a major – yes capitalist – enterprise has big $$$ to gain, the weapons industry and it’s sycophants (NRA-controlled Legislators and Gov Executives) will be much harder to thwart.

        The beauty of eliciting strong support from the Insurance enterprise is that they know how to make money on RISK, by mitigating that risk, i.e., not only will background checks, mental health exams, and all kinds of other provisions be required (e.g., training, licensing, etc.), but much of the pressure to make those requirements will no longer be without the one and only incentive that motivates some folk – making $$$.

        Yes, it’s calculated and it may seem a harsh assessment, but I’m a pragmatist driven by facts, and as impassioned I am about many issues, the reality of the #GunViolence issue happens to be we need to counter a very lucrative business with one that is at least as lucrative and that can actually force control parameters onto the making, selling and using of guns and ammo (just as they have done on numerous other major enterprises, e.g., autos, ships, airplanes).

        Thus, the Insurance enterprise is the logical partner, but it will take you and VP Biden and your many powerful colleagues and friends to shift the focus in a much more grounded and measurable form of β€˜personal responsibility’– meaning that each maker, seller and user of guns and ammunition are held liable, and have properly insured that liability, every time they sell or use a gun and ammunition.

        Thank you,

        Yes We Can

  19. March 27, 2013 at 7:33 pm

  20. March 27, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    Afternoon / evening, Obots!

    Hopefully next week when I’m back in the swing of work I can devote more time to the blog. (Oxymoronic, I know.)

    Today we took the missus for her first followup with the surgeon. From the time she started her pre-op diet until now, she’s lost… 37 LBS!!! Add another 11 from the first time she went to the surgeon. She’ll be running marathons soon.

    And we’re finally putting our very expensive elliptical trainer to use. I just got off of it after 30 minutes and I feel GREAT.

    Anyway, enough about me. How’s everyone? I have a feeling that soon my gay fake boyfriend will be able to take me as his date to real, fully legal gay weddings. And my gay manager will be able to save a ton of money on federal taxes from claiming her wife and their son. Oh, to be alive in a time of change.

  21. March 27, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    This is how you know the pro-traditional marriage “movement” is circling the drain:


    Thank God for Buzzfeed for “keeping them honest.” CNN (TM)

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  24. 111 hopefruit2
    March 27, 2013 at 7:58 pm

    I wonder how Hamsher’s BFF Stinkerwink on DKOS is feeling right now?

  25. March 27, 2013 at 7:58 pm

    If you have trouble getting to sleep, there is this:

    • 114 cman
      March 27, 2013 at 8:30 pm

      I have listened to 2 days of this now. Da hell is Thomas doing up there? I have not heard him say one word in these 2 days. Not one! Da hell.

      • March 27, 2013 at 8:58 pm

        Guess he never does. Was Scalia this stupid from the beginning?

      • 116 nathkatun7
        March 27, 2013 at 9:27 pm

        Cman, Justice Clarence Thomas never says anything! He just sits there because he always votes the same way Scalia votes. May be that’s a good thing. Otherwise he would look ridiculous trying to defend discrimination. May be he knows that he wouldn’t be where he is if it weren’t for all the changes won by the advocates of equality.

        For some of us who are older, Justice Thomas has been such a great disappointment– and an embarrassment. This is the man who was appointed to replace Justice Thurgood Marshall. Justice Marshall, before he was appointed to the Court, had worked tirelessly for equality. Justice Thomas, on the other hand, has been siding with the Court faction which is undoing everything that Justice Marshall struggled so hard, and for so long, to accomplish. For some reason, Justice Thomas is totally oblivious to the reality that he wouldn’t be where he is had it not been for the long struggles and sacrifices by people like Justice Marshall. To be honest, I just don’t know how Clarence Thomas sleeps at night after siding with the likes of Scalia and Alito who seem intent on taking the country back to the Jim Crow era.

    • March 27, 2013 at 8:57 pm

      I read the transcript for today’s hearing. What I took away was that even some of the conservative justices weren’t terribly thrilled by the arguments made by the pro-DOMA side. Neither Alito or (surpisingly) Scalia seemed to be impressed by the argument that the federal government had the right to separate out a class of marriage when that’s been left to the states.

      • March 27, 2013 at 9:00 pm

        Hope that is good. πŸ™‚

      • 121 nathkatun7
        March 27, 2013 at 9:46 pm

        You are right! It seems the conservatives on the Court may strike down DOMA on the grounds of States’ rights. If they do, it would be a cynical ruling that will not address the issue of discrimination against gays. Obviously DOMA should be invalidated on any grounds, but the issue of equal treatment under the law supersedes the issue of States’ rights.

  26. 122 anniebella
    March 27, 2013 at 7:58 pm

    Darn, Delaware women defeated North Carolina women. I love VP Joe, but I was rooting for the Lady Tarheels. Yuke!!!!!!

  27. 123 japa21
    March 27, 2013 at 8:02 pm

    • 124 carolyn
      March 27, 2013 at 8:24 pm

      That cruise looks like HELL on the sea! I’m sure that others noticed that EVERY speaker was a MALE, and only two are not WHITE!!!
      Do people actually pay to be put through that pain?????

      • 125 japa21
        March 27, 2013 at 8:29 pm

        As one person responded to me, They go in a circle because they can only steer to the right. Limbaugh says they are making good time, though. Needless to say, that got retweeted very quickly.

  28. March 27, 2013 at 8:08 pm

    Yikes!—-Brazilian dr. may have killed up to 300 patients—–in order to free up beds in the ER! Have her on tape saying her team’s mission was to be the springboard to the next life.


  29. March 27, 2013 at 8:23 pm

  30. 136 yardarm756
    March 27, 2013 at 8:34 pm


  31. March 27, 2013 at 8:35 pm

    So the Hamster is kaput?! Man, this day just gets better.

    • 138 hopefruit2
      March 27, 2013 at 8:49 pm

      After secretly joining forces with Drudge and Redstate….

    • 139 vcprezofan2
      March 27, 2013 at 10:02 pm

      You all might as well gloat together. πŸ˜‰


      Not quite as … progressive … as she’d have liked us to think, at least when it comes to money. It’s very much a case of β€œDo as I say, not as I do.β€œ

      Yes, she’s seriously hardcore about being progressive. She wanted Democrats and progressives to boycott Fox. Except when she thinks she’s not getting what she wants, then she’ll team up with the far right and make appearances on Fox. Yes, Ms Hamsher is not one to let principles stand in the way when she’s after something. She’s scathing in her denunciations of progressive groups that accept some corporate funds, unless of course, it’s her corporation which receives those same corporation’s funds.

      • March 27, 2013 at 10:05 pm

        VC, awesomest post ever!!!! Thank you Norbrook, this finished it off magnificently:


        • 141 vcprezofan2
          March 27, 2013 at 10:15 pm

          Hi CC. You’ve been dancing around so ecstatically that I’ve been carefully trying to keep my toes out of the way. πŸ˜€ πŸ˜€ Have to say, Norbrook’s post here reminded me a bit of the expose you had done on some of the emoprogs some time back.

          Frankly, I’ve learned (like many of you) to just wait patiently when people set out to try and bring down the Pres. or poison his accomplishments. Remember Bibi ( whom I don’t think has yet received *his* full come-uppance)?

          • March 27, 2013 at 10:20 pm

            Helloooooo VC. Yes, the Hamster’s woes have made me a very happy bunny!

            “Frankly, I’ve learned to just wait patiently when people set out to try and bring down the Pres. or poison his accomplishments.”

            Never, ever was a truer word was said!

        • March 27, 2013 at 10:25 pm

          Puppy love, unconditional! Best ever.

  32. 144 lamh36
    March 27, 2013 at 8:46 pm

    As a single woman who primarily lives along, I don’t know why the hell I watch this damn show…SMDH!


  33. 145 lamh36
    March 27, 2013 at 8:50 pm

    Just a heads up to prepare everyone of what the big story will be tomorrow. Twitter warriors be prepared.

    Obama: Same-sex marriage constitutional, but an issue for the states

    • March 27, 2013 at 8:51 pm

      Well, marriage has never been a federal issue until DOMA. States regulate marriage. But, states must also follow the Constitution. It will take someone to take on and overturn a state law–like Prop 8–for gay marriage to be the law of the land.

    • March 27, 2013 at 9:25 pm

      But the Federal government has to deal with benefits for the Military and Veterans and Congress and Federal Employees. It’s complicated.

    • 156 prettyfoot58
      March 27, 2013 at 10:33 pm

      This is my issue with this..

      if marriage equality is amtte of equal rights under that law…then how can the state deny those rights…….how can you leave it up to the states…human/civil rights …either you have them or you don’t…

    • 157 nathkatun7
      March 27, 2013 at 10:34 pm

      On this one I slightly disagree with the President. The gay marriage issue is about equal protection of the laws. Under the 14th Amendment, a state can’t have one set of laws for one group of citizens and another set of laws for another group. This is what is at the heart of the “Equal Protection Clause” in Section 1 of the 14th Amendment. While Congress can pass laws to enforce the “equal protection of the laws” for all citizens, Congress cannot enact laws that denies citizens the “equal protection of the laws.” Therefore DOMA violated the “equal protection clause” of the 14th Amendment. Similarly, States are prohibited from enacting laws that deny U.S. citizens “the equal protection of the laws.” The Amendment is very clear:

      ” Nor State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;
      nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law; nor DENY TO ANY PERSON

      It’s true that marriage certificates are issued by States and not by the Federal government. However, in issuing marriage certificates, a state cannot discriminate against citizens of the United States. If any state does that, then Congress, or the Federal Courts, must step in and enforce the 14th Amendment. This is exactly what the Supreme Court did in the 1967 “Loving Case” when it invalidated state laws that prohibited interracial marriages.

      To repeat, It’s true that it’s the States that are in control of marriage and issue marriage licenses. It’s also true that States control education and the licensing of businesses such as restaurants. But just as the States cannot condone discrimination in Schools or in Restaurants, States cannot condone discrimination in marriages without violating the Equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution. Just my two cents. I still have the highest regard for our President.

  34. March 27, 2013 at 8:50 pm

  35. 159 desertflower
    March 27, 2013 at 8:50 pm


    Sanford Challenger Bostic Linked to Ethiopian Adoption Scam

    Curtis Bostic seems to have a bit of a past that is just coming to light now. He was the attorney of record for the Christian World Adoption agency, the subject of 2010 CBS News investigation into the possibility that CWA was nothing more than a human trafficking organization.

    Good family values guy….oh God, make it stop….

  36. 160 hopefruit2
    March 27, 2013 at 8:51 pm

    • 161 anniebella
      March 27, 2013 at 9:04 pm

      And G.W. Bush organization is on the verge of doing what, you say.

      • 162 Allison
        March 27, 2013 at 9:17 pm

        Not a damn thing!

      • March 27, 2013 at 9:29 pm

        G.H.W. Bush thousand points of light went dark as soon as his son was elected and crashed the ambulance……in fact what has a past Republican President done after the WH to help others?

        • March 27, 2013 at 9:50 pm

          GHW did help Pres. Clinton in Thailand. Reagan was out of picture and got lots of things named after him and silently cratered our economy, and thankfully w. is painting and went to a women’s basketball game at Baylor with Laura and Ken Starr last night. Nixon rotted in his own jail. I’ll have to google Ike.

          • March 27, 2013 at 10:01 pm

            Eisenhower retired to the place where he and Mamie had spent much of their post-war time, a working farm adjacent to the battlefield at Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, only thirty miles from his ancestral home of York. In 1967, the Eisenhowers donated the farm to the National Park Service. In retirement, the former president did not completely retreat from political life; he spoke at the 1964 Republican National Convention and appeared with Barry Goldwater in a Republican campaign commercial from Gettysburg.[197] However, his endorsement came somewhat reluctantly because Goldwater had attacked the former president as “a dime-store New Dealer”.

          • 168 jacquelineoboomer
            March 27, 2013 at 11:02 pm

            Carol – *w is painting and went to a women’s basketball game at Baylor … last night* ROFLMAO!

        • March 27, 2013 at 10:23 pm

          GWH and his “Thousand points of light” didn’t seem to be well respected after he talked about it at the RNC convention and in his Inauguration speech.
          The phrase was previously found in C.S. Lewis’s 1955 novel The Magician’s Nephew, in which Lewis wrote: “One moment there had been nothing but darkness; next moment a thousand, thousand points of light leaped out.”

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  39. March 27, 2013 at 9:14 pm

    So what in the world would you owe Drudge and Red state money for at this stage of the game?

    • March 27, 2013 at 9:17 pm

      Oh Meta, I would LOVE to know.

      • March 27, 2013 at 9:26 pm

        Honestly, I can’t even fathom the hideous BS she delved in. I witnessed her disrespect of people way, way back when FDL was ramping up for the whole Plame fiasco. I saw some pretty ugly stuff then but nothing that tops this. Sorry but she deserves to face the music after what she’s done to a lot of people.

        • March 27, 2013 at 9:33 pm

          I’m glad I don’t even know what you guys are talking about other than Drudge and Redstate are very right wing nuts websites and firedog lake was very left. Do I need to know more? Hope nut.

        • March 27, 2013 at 9:40 pm

          Meta, of all that crowd she’s been the most obvious fraud every step of the way – even worse than Cenk Uygur. And that’s saying something. She’s an attention/$$-seeking narcissist, and that her sheeple still worshiped at her feet even after the Lieberman/black face business, her teaming up with Norquist/Tea Party to try to destroy the ACA, her BP money, etc, etc …. really, it says all we need to know about how ‘progressive’ they are at heart. I have no doubt what their real issue is with PBO, none at all. As for her buddy act with Dan Choi? The worst day in that guy’s life was when DADT was repealed because it robbed him of a public reason to hate PBO and rendered him – another narcissist – irrelevant. But then they latched on to Bradley Manning and ….. oh, they’re woefully pathetic. Screw them all.

          • March 27, 2013 at 9:44 pm

            Yes, exactly.

            And I want to thank you for all the work you did to expose her balance sheet. That was an important step along the way and really helped to reveal the truth about her and her “operations.”

            • March 27, 2013 at 9:47 pm

              Ah, thank you Meta, but in the interests of honesty (!) I just linked to amazing people like Norbrook who did all the work, they exposed her for what she is: a contemptible fraud.

              • March 27, 2013 at 9:57 pm

                Well, OK, but I’m a firm believer in aggregators – people who see the big picture and who organize information in such a way that makes an impact on the whole. It’s a very valuable service and not everyone can do it. You are among the best. Just sayin’.

                • March 27, 2013 at 10:01 pm

                  Huh, and you wonder why I love ya?! Thanks so much Meta, I remember that time looking up posts on her proved to be a brilliant internet journey, helped me find blogs – like Norbrook’s – that are still among my most loved to this day. Really, really great people out there doing amazing work.

                  • 190 jacquelineoboomer
                    March 27, 2013 at 10:40 pm

                    And “in here,” too, like you do every day!

                    • March 27, 2013 at 10:47 pm

                      Jacqueline, I was tempted to reward you for the loveliness with a Wayne Rooney photo, but, bizarrely, some folk view that as a punishment. Thank you my lovely J!

                    • 192 jacquelineoboomer
                      March 27, 2013 at 10:57 pm

                      I belong to Athletics Anonymous, so … uh … kinda wouldn’t be either a reward or punishment. More like somethin’ to elicit a blank stare. But, uh, you are welcome!

                    • March 27, 2013 at 11:00 pm

                      “More like somethin’ to elicit a blank stare”

                      πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

                      Before my work is done on earth Jacqueline, I will have you hooked on the majesty that is Manchester United!

                    • 194 jacquelineoboomer
                      March 27, 2013 at 11:00 pm

                      Not as long as I can still run, my dear Chips!

                  • 195 forus50
                    March 27, 2013 at 10:50 pm

                    Now Chips you got me confused. I thought Cenk topped your list of despicable fraudsters. πŸ™‚ I guess both Hampsher and Cenk share that position huh?

                    • March 27, 2013 at 10:52 pm

                      Ha Forus, you know me too well and my, um, un-love for Cenk! It’s actually a really, really, really tough choice, who I loathe more: Cenk or the Hamster. It’s like the opposite of choosing between one cheesy puff and another – can’t be done!

          • 197 theo67
            March 27, 2013 at 11:23 pm

            You said it all, Chips! Who are the indebted bloggers who didn’t learn from the Huffington swindle?!

  40. 198 hopefruit2
    March 27, 2013 at 9:21 pm

  41. March 27, 2013 at 9:36 pm

    Every year, thousands of Hindus participate in the festival Holi. The festival has many purposes. First and foremost, it celebrates the beginning of the new season, spring. Originally, it was a festival that commemorated good harvests and the fertile land. Hindus believe it is a time of enjoying spring’s abundant colors and saying farewell to winter. It also has a religious purpose, commemorating events present in Hindu mythology. Although it is the least religious holiday, it is probably one of the most exhilarating ones in existence. During this event, participants hold a bonfire, throw colored powder at each other, and celebrate wildly.
    Rangapanchami occurs a few days later on a Panchami (fifth day of the full moon), marking the end of festivities involving colors.

  42. March 27, 2013 at 9:43 pm

    • 206 yardarm756
      March 27, 2013 at 9:51 pm

      I see you’re on a roll cowgirl. Is this what happens when you are snowed in? πŸ˜€

      • March 27, 2013 at 9:54 pm

        I’m not snowed in. Weather is very nice today. Just had a doctors appt. and couldn’t think straight for awhile this morning. Must have made 40 degrees today! My little yellow crocus are cute little bouquets.

  43. March 27, 2013 at 9:49 pm

  44. 210 desertflower
    March 27, 2013 at 9:50 pm


    Report: 80 Percent Of Drug Arrests On Border Involve US Citizens

    “Funny” how that part is never mentioned….

  45. 211 desertflower
    March 27, 2013 at 10:05 pm


    Incomes of bottom 90 percent grew $59 in 40 years
    During the same period, average income for the top 10 percent of Americans rose by $116,071

    Stark enough?

  46. 218 amk for obama
    March 27, 2013 at 10:18 pm

    not a single word of thanks from ut & vc.


  47. March 27, 2013 at 10:22 pm

  48. 243 amk for obama
    March 27, 2013 at 10:25 pm

    At the height of a political corruption trial, the prosecuting attorney attacked a witness. “Isn’t it true,” he bellowed, “that you accepted five thousand dollars to compromise this case?”

    The witness stared out the window, as though he hadn’t heard the question.

    “Isn’t it true that you accepted five thousand dollars to compromise this case?” the lawyer repeated.

    The witness still did not respond.

    Finally, the judge leaned over and said, “Sir, please answer the question.”

    “Oh,” the startled witness said, “I thought he was talking to you.”

  49. 246 amk for obama
    March 27, 2013 at 10:42 pm

    A couple go on vacation to a fishing resort in northern Minnesota. The husband likes to fish at the crack of dawn. The wife likes to read.

    One morning the husband returns after several hours of fishing and takes a nap. Although not familiar with the lake, the wife decides to take the boat out. She motors out a short distance, anchors, and continues to read her book.

    Along comes a forest policeman in his boat. He pulls up alongside the woman and says, “Good morning Ma’am. What are you doing?”

    “Reading a book,” she replies, (thinking “Isn’t that obvious?”)

    “You’re in a restricted fishing area,” he informs her.

    “I’m sorry officer, but I’m not fishing, I’m reading.”

    “Yes, but you have all the equipment. I’ll have to take you in and write you up.”

    “If you do that, I’ll have to charge you with sexual assault,” says the woman.

    “But I haven’t even touched you,” says the policeman.

    “That’s true,” replied the woman, “But you have all the equipment.”

  50. 251 anniebella
    March 27, 2013 at 10:46 pm

    Miami Heat is on the verge of losing. To POTUS Chicago Bulls.

    • March 27, 2013 at 10:50 pm

      Good. I think the Heat has had a 27-game winning streak. I woiuld love to see the Bulls take them down!

      • 253 anniebella
        March 27, 2013 at 10:54 pm

        They did take them down. If the Bulls were healthy, If Derrick Rose were playing they could beat the Heat I believe. But I don’t think Rose will be coming back this year.

  51. 254 forus50
    March 27, 2013 at 10:51 pm

  52. 255 anniebella
    March 27, 2013 at 10:52 pm

    27 wins in a row for Miami Heats came to a end tonight in Chicago. Wonder if POTUS watch any of the game.

  53. 258 forus50
    March 27, 2013 at 10:54 pm

    My prediction two hours ago πŸ™‚

    • 259 anniebella
      March 27, 2013 at 10:55 pm

      If Axelrod were watching, POTUS probably was too.

      • 260 anniebella
        March 27, 2013 at 10:58 pm

        I used to love myself some Chicago Bulls when Michael Jordon were playing.

        • 261 forus50
          March 27, 2013 at 11:09 pm

          I just read the Sports Illustrated cover story on Jordan as he turns 50 this year. That is crazy huh! This was also the 50th time he made the cover of SI – far more than any other athlete. It was a well written story about what a great athlete he was but how he hasn’t had the same impact off the court other than in commercials. He has chosen to not get involved in politics and spends most of his time on the golf course. I thought it was an honest assessment of an amazing talent with the question of if he still has something that will inspire him in his coming years. He could be such a HUGE advocate for a number of good causes in Chicago, or in the US or the world.

      • 262 forus50
        March 27, 2013 at 10:59 pm

        Axelrod was at the game at United Center. 99% sure that POTUS had the tv channel on ESPN at the White House.

  54. March 27, 2013 at 11:03 pm

  55. March 27, 2013 at 11:04 pm

    So, I made the most delicious lentil soup a few months ago. I loved it, but missus said it was just too much as a meal by itself. Now she’s on her gastric sleeve forum, and a poster said that she pureed lentil soup as a break from the protein drinks. Guess what she wants me to make now?

    As amk would say: wimmin.

  56. March 27, 2013 at 11:07 pm

  57. 282 jacquelineoboomer
    March 27, 2013 at 11:21 pm

  58. 285 Nena20409
    March 27, 2013 at 11:29 pm

    A cute inspirational video about a little dog. It is heartwarming.

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