Rise and Shine

Because we can never see the Spiderboy pic enough


MoooOOOoooOOOooorning everyone. Okay, today I have to go to an annual worky lunchy thing that usually drags on for hours and is as enjoyable as having your teeth removed with a chainsaw. Generally it involves colleagues telling other colleagues, after a drink or 36, how much they’ve always hated each other, or, much worse, how much they’ve always loved each other.

Have some stuff to do before then, so Yardarm? I’m leaving you in charge – none of this when I come back:

See you later. Wish me luck 😕

355 Responses to “Rise and Shine”

  1. December 20, 2012 at 7:00 am

    morning man your early

  2. December 20, 2012 at 7:01 am

    Good morning Chips and the TOD family.

  3. 5 ourmanflint
    December 20, 2012 at 7:01 am

    Have a great staff party Chips!!!!!!!

  4. 6 sherijr
    December 20, 2012 at 7:02 am

    Good Morning Chips & TOD ~ calm & happy day to you all. Have FUN Chips 🙂

  5. December 20, 2012 at 7:04 am

    You know, Jake Tapper disrespect toward President Obama during the “Gun Safety” press briefing is no different than Republican Joe Wilson’s “You Lie” at the SOTU.

    • 8 ourmanflint
      December 20, 2012 at 7:09 am

      ^^^^^this. Part of a trend to disrespect the man, President Barack Hussein Obama. They need get over it that he is already one of the greatest Presidents ever!!!!!!

      • December 20, 2012 at 7:12 am

        Congrats, ourman! 🙂

        Disrespect from ALL of them. Makes me sick and angry and sad and………….:( 😦

      • 11 jackiegrumbacher
        December 20, 2012 at 7:45 am

        Yes, OMF, and the most galling part for them is that PBO will be remembered in all history books and loved by generations of school children while their names will be consigned to the dust barrel. Who in the world will ever remember any of the current bozos in the msm? Tapper who? What was that? But President Obama, that’s the great man who defined the 21rst century.

  6. 15 overseasgranny
    December 20, 2012 at 7:12 am

    Where is Yardarm? He was supposed to be here by now with the Guinness.
    Jake Tapper is an idiot. Every time I think Fox News can’t get crazier, they do. It is now almost impossible to watch US TV news on any station.

  7. December 20, 2012 at 7:24 am

    Good morning TOD, morning Chips!

  8. December 20, 2012 at 7:28 am

    Top 15!

    Good Thursday morning TOD. Hope this silly vote in the House today shows Boehner as the joker he is. What an out of touch fool.

  9. 22 utaustinliberal
    December 20, 2012 at 7:34 am

    Whoa…..Chips, you’re getting drunk today? I am telling your boyfriend Rick Santorum.

  10. 23 amk for obama
    December 20, 2012 at 7:38 am

    Yay. Partay.

  11. 25 amk for obama
    December 20, 2012 at 7:40 am

  12. 26 utaustinliberal
    December 20, 2012 at 7:44 am

    If anyone hasn’t read this fantastic article by Deaniac about Chained CPI and how it’s not a cut to SS benefits, you MUST read this and spread it around far and wide. There is more at the link than the snippet I posted here. You must, must, must read it.

    There is a big freakout over a possible fiscal cliff deal including the use of something called “chained CPI” to calculate increases in Social Security benefits. Go to Huffington Post, Daily Kos or another “liberal” blog and you will see people who never supported the president in the first place but nonetheless claim to be his “base” lamenting over what a backstabber he is.

    The president, as part of the fiscal cliff negotiation offers and counteroffers, has apparently opened the possibility of slightly adjusting the way cost of living increases are calculated for Social Security, by tying it (and all other government accounting) to a “chained CPI” model, a more accurate measure of inflation that accounts for the idea (and fact) that consumers often replace an item with increasing prices with a less expensive substitute. Apparently, this set off more alarm bells on the Left’s media than Pearl Harbor. But as with most hair-on-fire freakouts, there is less here than meets the eye.

    What is this Chained CPI thing?

    There are no cuts being proposed to social security’s basic benefits. Social Security benefits are currently calculated using a formula that takes into account your income and replaces a certain percentage of it. Here is exactly how that’s done: by determining one’s average monthly income – wage-inflation adjusted – in the 35 best earning years of one’s life, and then applying a “bend point” formula to determine your base benefit (fashionably known as PIA or the “primary insurance amount”). If you retire in 2011 at your normal retirement age, for example, your basic benefit is determined using the following formula:

    (a) 90 percent of the first $749 of his/her average indexed monthly earnings, plus
    (b) 32 percent of his/her average indexed monthly earnings over $749 and through $4,517, plus
    (c) 15 percent of his/her average indexed monthly earnings over $4,517.

    Again, these “bend points” are adjusted by a formula that has been set in law since 1979, are based on wage-growth, and there is absolutely no changes to that formula in the gang of six plan, and the changes proposed to it in the Fiscal Commission plan actually increases the base benefits for the poorest workers who are also likely to have the least in savings or other retirement income.
    A chained CPI measure would also collect more taxes. Tax brackets, like social security benefits, are indexed to inflation, which means that just every so slightly, more people will fall into slightly higher brackets.

    Chained CPI is not a cut in baseline benefits in Social Security. Even Paul Krugman – the Professional Left’s greatest self-proclaimed bearded professor – admits that initial benefits are determined by one’s earnings, but that chained CPI would reduce the rate of growth of those benefits by about 0.3%. For every “progressive” who believes that such slowing of the rate of growth is a “benefit cut,” I would like them also to step forward and with a straight face, tell me that cutting the rate of growth of defense spending is a “cut” in defense spending. If you think you’re a liberal, go ahead and try to say that. Out loud. With a straight face. You can’t do it, can you?


    • 27 jackiegrumbacher
      December 20, 2012 at 7:54 am

      Thanks UT. I read this and retweeted your link. Unfortunately, I don’t think any of the PL or emos care about facts, any more than the rwnjs do. They’re looking for any opportunity to stir up outrage to get hits and eyeballs after the intensity of the election. They never liked PBO, but threw themselves into election coverage because it was expedient and profitable for them to do so. If any of them did real on the ground election “work,” I’d be shocked. Meantime, Deaniac, in his quiet and brilliant way, analyzes facts, assesses what’s real from what’s bull and always delivers it straight. I love everything this man writes.

    • 28 57andfemale
      December 20, 2012 at 8:46 am

      I’m going to stick my neck out here. The emoprogs are way inflating (pun intended) the effect of this, but I take issue with deaniac on this. There will be less money in senior’s pockets because of this adjustment. It’s about the amount of the cost of living RAISES, not the initial calculation of what your baseline is. No way that deaniac is ignorant of this. What has NOT been communicated AT ALL by the administration is that the initial calculation of what a person receives will be higher for the poor than it has been in the past. Nancy Pelosi is the only one I’ve seen made the distinction. Dems again are not having the President’s back in explaining this.

      That being said, I will go to TPV and tell deaniac that, yes — a slowdown in the rate of growth IS a means of cutting the future outlays. So it is a cut. NOT in what we’re getting right now, but a future cut. And I’d be happy to tell him that with a straight face.

      With all the hysteria I cannot yet find the truth as to the extent of the harm it will cause: negligible or devastating. I simply don’t know. The political calculation is, I believe, that we can readjust this in seniors’ favor in the future, but that is something that cannot be said out loud. You can’t offer the Evil Ones a deal and sell it to your supporters as something that you really don’t intend to follow through on.

      I wish PBO had not offered it. It’s not necessary to cause this political backlash. Social Security should be left out of this deal unless and until there were no other options at all, raising the cap significantly is a firm part of the package, and calamity was at our door without some deal. Social Security does not add to the deficit and I’m not happy that any changes to Social Security were offered up this early in the negotiations. The Repubs are looking bad anyway; there was no reason to re-open the fears of seniors. At least not unless you had a good explanation of it, instead of letting the Cenks of the world set the narrative. Again.

      the negotiating tactic of making Republicans look bad by our side sacrificing something dear to us led to some significant decreases in PBO’s poll numbers two years ago. He ran and won this election because he was the firewall against cuts to Medicare and Social Security. He had all the leverage coming in to this and even though I will wait to see how it all plays out, I don’t see the necessity for this move at this time. Yes, I know that he got us a lot of good stuff out of the last deal, although millionaires benefited obscenely from the extension of the tax cuts. But politically now the President is strong and I see no reason for bringing Social Security into this foray at all — certainly not without a raise in the cap that is at least as high a percentage of income as it was 30 years ago.

      I know my opinions won’t be popular on this. I deal with seniors all the time. This return to the past does not please me.

      And as much as I love deaniac, I think this piece shaded the realities somewhat. Something I never expect from him.

      • 29 Betsy
        December 20, 2012 at 9:01 am

        Although I too wish he didn’t offer it, I have learned not to underestimate PBO. S, I am just going to wait and see how it all ends, with everyone wiping the egg off of their faces having realized that once again President Obama has outsmarted them 🙂

      • 30 57andfemale
        December 20, 2012 at 9:11 am

        I re-read deaniac’s piece, and I humbly take back my last sentence above. I think deaniac’s explanations fall squarely on the factual side and I wish every Democrat was out there selling this change. However, there does appear to have been some serious political lack of communication. I know Durbin wasn’t happy with this move, after sticking his neck out saying Social Security would not be part of this at all. Democrats are left with having to explain this to their constituents. It’s a heavy lift and if it was absolutely necessary, it should have been a coordinated message and a explained in a positive way. There was no such coordination of message.

        I still believe our hand is stronger in the next Congress and if we continue to work toward a more progressive majority, will be stronger in the next 2-8 years. We need to fight even harder in 2014 and 2016 — we need to change the face of Congress and keep the Presidency in Democratic hands. I don’t agree with Deaniac in that I think we can handle this better in the next decade and dealing with it right now is just not necessary. Not wait until the last minute in 2037, but it certainly does not need to be part of this fiscal curb deal. It’s now a huge mountain to climb, explaining why this is okay, maybe even good. Social Security is not part of the deficit is a stronger political statement. We can strengthen it on its own, after a careful, deliberative process, instead of throwing it into this evil morass created by stupid ideologues.

        • 31 overseasgranny
          December 20, 2012 at 9:26 am

          I am glad you have corrected your rant because Deaniac is correct. IF the CPI gets chained, all the low income SS recipients will be protected from this, and the IRS knows well who is low-income and who is not. CPI chaining does other things above and beyond the small effect on SS, which BTW only affects the wealthy by a whole 6% over TWENTY years, insignificant to the wealthy.
          It also slows the tax increases for everyone and slows things like rent increases on leases. It saves the government a lot of money. Chaining is not a bad thing when all is looked at. If you are low income, you will NOT see any change in your SS check.
          Now, living overseas and exchanging money every month, I have seen my SS cut in half suddenly or drop 10% in a day, and I cope with the changes even though that is all I have. Lordy, a measly 6% change over 20 years is a nothing to handle.

          • 32 anniebella
            December 20, 2012 at 9:42 am

            While I admit there maybe things I don’t completely understand, this I will also admit I trust President Obama to do the right thing, to try to do what is best for the people and this country.

        • 33 Eveingeorgia
          December 20, 2012 at 9:41 am

          Hi, 57ANDFEMALE. I don’t know if you have read SMARTYPANTS thinking on this, but here are the first three paragraphs from her most recent post:

          ” The first thing to notice is that Speaker Boehner made some big concessions from the Republican position. First of all, he opened the door on the extension of tax cuts. His proposal would extend them for income less than $1 million (Obama wants them extended for income less than $250,000). But the really BIG concession was an extension of the debt ceiling for one or two years. That would give away the leverage Republicans were counting on in the coming months. BFD!
          Because Boehner made these concessions, it was incumbent on Obama to do so as well. If he hadn’t, he’d be putting himself and the Democrats in the position of being blamed when we went off the “cliff” by being intransigent. That’s why he made the counter-offer of extending the tax cuts for income less than $400,000 and adopting the “chained CPI” method of measuring inflation. 
          No one of the left truly embraces the chained CPI. But people as knowledgable as the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities and Jared Bernstein suggest that the conditions the White House was demanding to include would mitigate its effects on vulnerable elderly who are dependent on Social Security. The Republicans were demanding 2 things be included on the spending cuts side of this negotiation – raising the Medicare eligibility age and chained CPI (which affects more than Social Security). Of the two, its clear that Obama agreed with many liberal economists that the latter was the least objectionable alternative. ”

          It’s politics and perception, I.e., can’t seem to be ” intransigent “. I guess he tried to find the least painful, um, pain. It is infuriating, for sure, but as P.M. Carpenter said a few weeks ago, ” I sure don’t envy the guy.” I guess I’m very protective of him since I know the boulders that are stacked against him. This is a tough one, for sure.

          Thanks for your honest appraisal.

      • December 20, 2012 at 10:18 am

        It’s Better than not having anything at all, because when the government shuts down, and it will, we get nothing.
        Compromise, or both sides base can go have a war in Afghanistan, maybe tora bora, but with no air support.

      • 35 susanne
        December 20, 2012 at 2:21 pm

        thank you for this, 57. i trust our president, and i know he has the needs of seniors very much in his mind and heart. there has been a lot of push-back against ’emos’ and ‘progressives’ who have claimed pbo is ‘caving’ on social security. it disturbs me when there is irrational pushing from any side on these serious issues. i so appreciate your sane and considered statements here (including the one just below).

      • 36 Anna Luc
        December 20, 2012 at 6:00 pm

        Happy Holidays TODers! I am very grateful for this site.

        I do not understand why anyone is freaking out. It is not like Republicans are actually going to take the deal. I believe we are going over the cliff/bump/slope/curb/whateva, because the tea-party caucus just can not make a deal with POTUS. Can’t do it! The only way a deal gets done is if the current Speaker cuts a deal with Miss Nancy. And that would be too much like good sense. So, I am enjoying the performance art of it all.

    • December 20, 2012 at 10:08 am

      I tweeted it this morning and I am getting quite a few re-tweet with it. Glad there are others out there who remain sane.

    • 38 Judith Fardig
      December 20, 2012 at 10:59 am

      Thank you so much for posting this link! It will help me prepare for a small business round-table event for TheAction this afternoon.

    • December 20, 2012 at 3:47 pm

      The emoprogs act like OFFERING something is the same as DOING it. They also demand that the Republicans compromise with their crazy base, but any move at compromising by the Democrats is seen as a betrayal. They will hold this offer against the President and throw the “betrayal” back at him at every available opportunity. They ignore what he actually does, and decide that what is offered in the midst of a negotiation with a group of people who never had any notion of compromising and could never actually deliver the votes for a compromise is worth burning down the house over. They’re exhausting.

      I’ve heard Democrat after Democrat saying that they don’t like including the CPI in the negotiation, but there are measures that can be taken to protect seniors and the poor. Why anyone would think that the President would sacrifice the security of seniors and the poor in exchange for tax cuts for the rich, after everything this President has said and done to protect seniors and the poor, reflects a cynicism and lack of faith on the part of the doubters that is extremely unattractive. I completely understand seniors being worried at the thought of this deal because they/re vulnerable here, but most of the people making the noise don’t have a clue what they’re talking about.

  13. 40 amk for obama
    December 20, 2012 at 7:46 am

  14. December 20, 2012 at 7:50 am

    LOL Chips. I hated going to “office parties” because it always involved a bunch of people getting drunk and then wanting to dance with the black girls.

  15. December 20, 2012 at 8:02 am

  16. December 20, 2012 at 8:03 am

    The Spidey pic can never be shown enough and I think it needs to be front and center in his presidential library.

  17. 48 utaustinliberal
    December 20, 2012 at 8:07 am

    This story about the Obamas from People Magazine is freaking cute! Pres. Obama likes to humble-brag a lot. 😀

    President Obama likens election night to “a wedding,” has danced “Gangnam Style” before, and says his school age kids are “cooler than I am.”

    When asked by People magazine what it felt like to win reelection on Nov. 6., Obama replies, “It’s like a wedding. You’re hoping everybody is having fun at the reception, that Aunt Mabel is getting a ride home, the crazy cousin didn’t drink too much.”

    The commander-in-chief and Michelle Obama also give rare details about daughters Sasha and Malia in the wide-ranging magazine interview. The first lady reveals that 14-year-old Malia “has expressed some interest in filmmaking,” while with Sasha, 11, “what she likes today will change in an hour.” The youngest West Wing residents also don’t sound like big fans of the latest viral sensation. When the glossy mag inquires whether Sasha and Malia are into anything that Obama is embarrassed to admit he likes as well, the president says, “No. They’re cooler than I am. There are things I like that they think are cheesy, like ‘Gangnam Style.’ I love that.”

    Obama discloses he’s even done the gallop-filled dance: “Of course I have, but I’m not going to be doing it on front of you.”

    The president takes a playful jab at his wife during their chat with People. When the first lady informs him that she was nominated for a Grammy award for the audio version of her book, American Grown, Obama quips, “Well, when you win two, like me, then let me know.”

    Obama picked up two Best Spoken Word Album awards for the audio books for his tomes, Dreams From my Father and The Audacity of Hope.

    Michelle Obama remarked back at her husband, “Snap — oh!”

    The People interview with the Obamas appears in the Dec. 31 issue of magazine.


    • 49 Ceb
      December 20, 2012 at 8:16 am

      This is too cute; I will be sure to pick up a copy. Thanks for the info. UT.

      BTW, hope you have finished papers and exams (I know that you have done well) and are off to enjoy the winter break.

      • 50 anniebella
        December 20, 2012 at 10:09 am

        I remember Good Morning America showing part of the Christmas interview POTUS and FLOTUS did with B. Walters were POTUS and FLOTUS were talking about playing scrabble, POTUS loves to play it, FLOTUS don’t like losing to POTUS cause he is irritating when he wins, I thought that was so cute. I keep hoping ABC will decide to air the interview.

    • 51 theo67
      December 20, 2012 at 3:54 pm

      I love the teasing back and forth between them, and I’m glad the country is reminded that the President is a two-time Grammy award winner (and yes, he did build that, and the millions he’s made from his own work). Truth is – they’re both very accomplished – this country is lucky to have them both!

  18. 52 Ceb
    December 20, 2012 at 8:09 am

    Good morning everyone.

    Chips, hope the party is better than you expect (I have skipped mine for 15 years or more).

  19. 53 amk for obama
    December 20, 2012 at 8:10 am

    Via BJ, our awesome Veep

    • 54 99ts
      December 20, 2012 at 8:57 am

      Perfect response – and PBO was watching/listening – choosing the right VP seems to be reserved for the democrats.

      • 55 Lovepolitics2008
        December 20, 2012 at 11:34 am

        Yep. Besides Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden was the only other candidate with presidential “gravitas”. For the record, it’s during those debates that I “chose” Joe for vp too. The wit, honesty and strenght of character were so evident. (I didn’t see Hillary as vp for multiple reasons; I prefered her in a Cabinet position).

    • 56 carla4obama
      December 20, 2012 at 11:45 am

      The last line “I hope he doesn’t come looking for me.” That is something we all have in the backs of our mind.

    • December 20, 2012 at 3:24 pm

      That attitude of the guy with the gun is exactly why we need gun control, and an assault weapons ban. Did he say he purchased it “under the gun ban”…did he mean he got it illegally?

  20. December 20, 2012 at 8:11 am

    Have FUN?, Chips!!

    Good morning, TODville. Wonder what crazy today will bring?

  21. 59 lisalovesobama
    December 20, 2012 at 8:13 am

    I won’t be watching Martin anymore. Yesterday, he showed the clip of the asshole disrespecting PBO, and instead of pointing out how ridiculous the question was, Martin asked Kristin Welker (sp) if the president was ‘sensitive’ about the issue. really? It pissed me off so much because I expected better from Martin, even Lawry pointed out how wrong the phrasing was and thank goodness for Krystal who called a spade a spade: if was an ‘obnoxious, self righteous question not meant’to elicit an actual answer’. Lawry was like, ‘why is he asking it like that? We know where the president has been for the last 4 years.’ 🙄 Can’t waste my time watching idiots.

  22. 61 dotster3
    December 20, 2012 at 8:14 am

    David Gregory has invited Wayne LaPierre of the NRA to expound on gun rights on Meet The Press this Sunday. I could not be more disgusted.

    • 62 Bill
      December 20, 2012 at 8:45 am

      Will Gregory have a anti-gun spokesperson also? LaPierre does not deserve a place in the discussion after the things he has said about PBO.

    • December 20, 2012 at 8:59 am

      This is ridiculous. LaPierre should not be given this exclusive opportunity. Another clue congress is not there for the people but for special interests.

    • 64 jackiegrumbacher
      December 20, 2012 at 9:06 am

      Don’t watch it, but tell Meet the Press producers why they lost you as an audience.

    • 65 anniebella
      December 20, 2012 at 10:34 am

      What these people like LaPierre don’t understand is this is different, twenty little children were kill, 6 and seven years old. People will not forget this, they will not back down to the NRA, not this time. Not this time. And let us see what the media does.

    • 66 Lovepolitics2008
      December 20, 2012 at 11:48 am

      If there is a strong advocate for gun control who can debate Lapierre, and debunk his ridiculous arguments, I don’t have any problem with it. Meet the press is the place for debate. If it’s just an interview with Gregory, it will be ridiculous, because we know how weak Gregory is with obnoxious guests. I don’t know if Gregory makes promises to not ask harsh questions in order to get those guests, or if his knowledge is too superficial so he simply repeats the talking points circulating in the Beltway, or if he is just a republican who can’t get passed his bias. He’s not a strong interviewer that’s for sure.

    • 67 theo67
      December 20, 2012 at 3:58 pm

      MSNBC is touting it as an “exclusive” and they seem awfully proud of the “get”. They’re disgusting whores.

      • 68 dotster3
        December 20, 2012 at 4:06 pm

        Agreed. I’m so disgusted with so many disgusting people in our media and our government right now. I don’t want to hear disgusting LaPierre’s disgusting excuses and misdirecting. Disgusting.

  23. December 20, 2012 at 8:15 am

  24. 73 Grab A Mop Grace
    December 20, 2012 at 8:23 am

    Good Morning Chips and Good Luck with the worky, lunchy thing. I have one of those today too.
    I hope that you’re able to enjoy adult beverages just enough to find a way to laugh through the whole thing, without getting fired in the process.

    Good Morning TODers! And happy 5 days left ’til Christmas!

    Obama/Biden 4 more years

    • 74 proudmemberofglobalzero
      December 20, 2012 at 8:43 am

      Good morning Grace! Haven”t seen you in a while. Good morning to the rest of the TOD family. Working a lot and family coming home so a little busy here. On a good note…my daughter made all A’s this semester in college. I could not be prouder of her. Shopping is all done and packages were mailed on Monday.

      I keep writing my reps..Deutch now and Frankel after the new year on gun control. I also am in constant contact with Rubio and Nelson…both are “maybes” on assault weapons ban.

      What really gets me is when I hear that so and so won’t vote for this because they might lose politically. What kind of person puts their job over a 1st graders life. This point is really getting me angry. I don’t get angry but this time I am livid.

  25. 88 utaustinliberal
    December 20, 2012 at 8:57 am

    This is so freaking amazing!

    U.S. economic output rose 3.1 percent in Q3 versus consensus estimates of a 2.8 percent gain.
    An increase in nonfarm private inventories was one of the largest single drivers of growth, contributing 1.1 percentage points to the number.
    Personal consumption growth came in at 1.6 percent versus expectations of a 1.4 percent rise.

    he increase in real GDP in the third quarter primarily reflected positive contributions from PCE, private inventory investment, federal government spending, residential fixed investment, and exports that were partly offset by a negative contribution from nonresidential fixed investment. Imports, which are a subtraction in the calculation of GDP, decreased.
    The acceleration in real GDP in the third quarter primarily reflected upturns in private inventory investment and in federal government spending, a downturn in imports, an upturn in state and local government spending, and an acceleration in residential fixed investment that were partly offset by a downturn in nonresidential fixed investment and a deceleration in exports.

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/q3-gdp-third-release-2012-12#ixzz2FbHrXjHH

    • 89 theo67
      December 20, 2012 at 4:06 pm

      This recovery is what the GOP are putting in jeopardy with the Fiscal Cliff and their devious plans for the debt ceiling.

  26. 90 Vicki
    December 20, 2012 at 9:00 am

    Morning everyone.
    I see the unemployment numbers are well under 400,000 which is good.

    Donna, I agree with you about Martin. He is usually positive about the President except that he has Kristin Welker on as a WH expert every day and Ms Welker clearly does not admire PBO. Not what Kristin says as much as the snide tone. Must be auditioning for CNBC or CNN—-you know the networks with the sub-title: What did Barack Obama do wrong today?

    I got through Big Eddie last night and for once I thought he let his love for PBO shine through. No nay-saying at all. If I could only trust that this positivity would continue I would tune in more often.

    • 91 dotster3
      December 20, 2012 at 9:48 am

      I have the opposite impression of Welker. I think she is very much an Obama person. Her reports always seem pretty objective to me, with opinions from both sides. Sometimes I think these reporters are under orders to never appear partial to Obama. And Bashir has been the best anchor, imho, at exposing all the GOP shenanigans. He shies away from nothing.

      • December 20, 2012 at 9:59 am

        Don’t like her. Mute her if I can. I fell she gets in “digs” at PO and during the campaign, she really did that and sometimes made her ‘WH report’ more about Romney than about PO and his campaign.

  27. 94 relellit
    December 20, 2012 at 9:03 am

    Good morning TODers & chips

    congratulations ourmanflint on 1st

    Everybody have a beautiful day

  28. 95 desertflower
    December 20, 2012 at 9:09 am



    A Denver mother who believed her daughter was being bullied at school drove into the school’s parking lot and threatened four girls with a gun, according to an arrest document.

    Monica Avila, 34, was charged Tuesday with four counts of felony menacing and one count of possession of a weapon on school grounds, also a felony. According to the probable cause statement accompanying her arrest paperwork, Avila drove into the parking lot at Lake Middle School on Thursday afternoon and confronted four girls, ages 13 and 14.

    The statement says Avila began arguing with the girls about bullying. She then, while still sitting in her car, pulled out a black semi-automatic handgun and said, “Look what I have,” the document states.

    • 96 dotster3
      December 20, 2012 at 9:37 am

      We have no shortage of idiots in this country——and they all seem to own guns.

    • 99 Lovepolitics2008
      December 20, 2012 at 12:30 pm

      WHEN will law enforcement people take the lead on the gun issue? They are the first people to understand how weak gun laws lead to more incidents like this. The more people are allowed to carry guns outside of their homes, the more it will be difficult for law enforcement to maintain order. They have to ring the alarm, more forcefully than ever. The situation is deteriorating.

  29. 101 Bill
    December 20, 2012 at 9:15 am

    The Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing is currently live on C-SPAN 2.

  30. December 20, 2012 at 9:27 am

    Hiya, folks. I wanted to point you to some great Obama eye candy, courtesy of my photographer wife Anne C. Savage:

    Eclectablog’s Person of the Year: Barack Obama

    There’s also a great 2-for-1 deal on Anne’s two photomosaic posters of the President with free shipping at that link. You can get two of either poster (the original “Out of Many We are One” and the new one “Forward Together”) or one of each for only $20 and no shipping charge in honor of his being selected Time’s Person of the Year.

    Fun fact: in the new poster, all the faces are facing forward ; )

    • 104 sherijr
      December 20, 2012 at 9:34 am

      I would just like to say that I LOVE Anne’s posters… I purchased the second one, when she had the two for one sale a few months back… they are just beautiful & she is amazingly talented.

    • 105 No Child Left Behind
      December 20, 2012 at 10:14 am

      Good Morning Eclctablog and TOD Ville:

      I am having difficulty to acces the site. I finally did (I think) but see nowhere to make a purchase. Please help. Thanks.

        • 107 Pamela
          December 20, 2012 at 12:15 pm

          Eclectablog, please thank Anne for this generosity! Her work is so brilliant and her story is one of joy and pride in moving us forward into a brighter future! I am pleased to add the set to my Obama collection! Do you suppose Anne might sign the posters for me? Just an afterthought, it didn’t occur to me while I was in the website… But since I am only one degree from her brilliance, via YOU, I might have a bit of leverage! 😆 (am I playing politics?) 😆

          • December 20, 2012 at 1:40 pm

            I will definitely pass your message along. Tweet to her at @Anne_Savage about signing them. Alternatively, email me at eclectablog at gmail and let us know your full name so that she knows which order your is. I’m sure she would sign them for you. She’s bashful about offering that so you need to ask : )

        • December 20, 2012 at 3:01 pm

          I ordered one of Anne’s posters a few months ago when Eclectablog was having a fundraiser. I had it framed and it is haning in my den. I love it.

    • 110 Cha
      December 20, 2012 at 2:11 pm

      Just want to thank you, Eclectablog, for all you and your wife, Anne, do for our Democracy!

      The Photos of PBO are Brilliant!

    • December 20, 2012 at 3:25 pm

      What a lovely story accompanied by great photos and of course the impressive poster.

  31. 112 mtmarilyn
    December 20, 2012 at 9:30 am

    Good morning Chips and TOD family. Chips I hope you have a wonderful time at your office party! While all of you are partying under Yardarms watchful eye I will be deep cleaning my kitchen at work. One of those yearly jobs. I will be checking in to check on things.

    I sure hope many people pushed back on Tapper. I am still so mad at him. I have called and emailed. Will continue to call him out.

    Have a great day everyone.

  32. 113 LDS
    December 20, 2012 at 9:33 am

    Good morning everyone. Chips, good luck. You are a brave soul to go to another annual degrading office party. I never liked to go because people pretend they like you when they hardly speak to you during the year. They have so much to say and when you realize that you have to see them again next year, then it is time to leave.
    Have a nice day, everyone!

  33. December 20, 2012 at 9:35 am

    Up and at em O’s!!!! It’s a rainy and soon to be snowy day on this great getting up day in TODville again. Fingers crossed that #1 and the grandkids can make it through the horrible midwest snowstorm from No. Dakota for Xmas. Mr. Cookemom and I wouldn’t know what to do if there are no younguns around during the holidays. Then again, I could always spike the eggnog.

    On to politics… PBO should invite Rusty Boner over to discuss the fiscal cliff. He should have a floor to ceiling chart of his approval numbers on one wall (the one Boner sees as soon as he enters the room). On the opposite wall, that Boner doesn’t see until he’s seated, should be the numbers of the Repub’s disapproval ratings. Then, PBO should say, “Hey there John, how you dourin’…..wassup?”

    Off for my morning run, see yous guys later.

  34. December 20, 2012 at 10:10 am

    Just asking is Matt Lauer gone from the today show, if they replace him with Willie Geist that would be bad. Omg, are they that desperate to have David Gregory fill in.

  35. December 20, 2012 at 10:14 am

    Good morning all – have fun at your party Chips. I don’t have to run the gauntlet anymore since I retired in May! Yea.

    Keep the faith TODers – we can move #Forward with PBO. Hope all have a great Thursday. Snowing here in northern Wisconsin – the lower part of the state is expecting a major storm. Plows and National Guard at the ready.

  36. 119 amk for obama
    December 20, 2012 at 10:20 am

    Gunnite folks.

  37. December 20, 2012 at 10:23 am

    Senate bill would grant portions of DC statehood as New Columbia

    By Ramsey Cox
    Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) introduced a bill Wednesday that would grant portions of the District of Columbia statehood.

    The New Columbia Admissions Act, S. 3696, would make the areas outside the White House, Capitol and Supreme Court that are currently part of D.C., a new state called New Columbia.

    Yeah, that will pass??? Not!

  38. 122 amk for obama
    December 20, 2012 at 10:24 am

    Via BJ

  39. 125 No Child Left Behind
    December 20, 2012 at 10:26 am

    Have fun at your office party, Chips. And thanks for all the beautiful photos (which I always admired without saying Merci).

  40. 126 utaustinliberal
    December 20, 2012 at 10:35 am

  41. 127 dotster3
    December 20, 2012 at 10:39 am

  42. December 20, 2012 at 10:44 am

    Lots of Congressional Democrats saw Zero Dark Thirty and said they hated it. Facts be damned about Torture.
    That’s a shame, I like the writers. Oh well, scratch that off my list of movies to see.

  43. December 20, 2012 at 10:50 am

    Senate Republicans are pushing for a $23.8 billion aid package for Hurricane Sandy, rather than the $60.4 billion Democrats seek, according to Reuters.

    Tell the far left to chew on that number for awhile?

  44. 130 dotster3
    December 20, 2012 at 10:53 am

    I have no idea why that Ct. mother, with the obviously troubled son, felt the need for that horrible Bushmaster rapid fire gun used in the killings. I see news now that she had left him home alone for the 2 1/2 days preceding the shootings. She was off on a “mini-vacation” at a resort in N.H. Supposedly her gun collection was locked in a cabinet in the basement where son had a bedroom with computer and video games. I am wondering if he used that time to gain access to the guns. And—-this gun legislation that Feinstein is supposed to introduce Mon. still allows for 10 rapid fire clips (don’t know the gun lingo)——and as I heard someone say yesterday, that is still too lenient——that’s 10 people shot in less than 10 seconds. Who needs that???????

  45. December 20, 2012 at 10:54 am

    US GDP revised up to 3.1%.

    • 132 Nena20409
      December 20, 2012 at 11:11 am

      Thanks for that information. That means, the Fiscal Cliff……more like a slope is nothing but an exaggerated crisis. Once again, would those who were putting Jack Welsch(sp) on in Oct and other at CNBC apologize for accusing the Gov’t and pres Obama of manipulating the Labor numbers?

      Our economy is doing better and recovering slowly in spite of the Obstructionists in DC.

      • December 20, 2012 at 11:22 am

        The Economy is doing good now, but all those cuts to spending would have a direct result to jibs and consumer spending.
        It would have a moderate to s ere effect, maybe even a correction on the DOW of 1500 points or so.
        And we have not even gotten to the debt limit yet!
        They have more leverage because they don’t care about government, however, we have the public on our side, business community etc.
        It is what it is!

  46. December 20, 2012 at 11:02 am

    Boner holds his Daily Presser at 1:30. He will have one sentence saying you better take this, higher taxes your fault blane the President and then walk off the stage.
    Then, he will send Tapper his questions he wants Carney to answer via blackberry.
    It’s the Potomac 2 step!

  47. 135 Nena20409
    December 20, 2012 at 11:13 am

    GM all. Good Luck Chips.

    OMF, congrats for being 1st.

    It’s been a Hard Week.

  48. December 20, 2012 at 11:16 am

    Mass. Poll on Scott Brown-


    So, the State really does love Scott Brown? Yikes!

    • 137 xtine
      December 20, 2012 at 11:29 am

      In that case Kerry better keep his day job. 🙂

      • December 20, 2012 at 11:32 am

        Well, the President does not see it that way.
        It will not matter, in 2014, if the Republicabs shut down the government and do what I think they will do, their will be a democratic wave.
        The Republicans are making big mistakes and they are out of touch.
        We just have to get through the next 2 years.

    • 139 Japa21
      December 20, 2012 at 11:32 am

      Kind of a meaningless poll at this point. I wouldn’t trust it to have any significance.

    • 142 anniebella
      December 20, 2012 at 11:33 am

      If the state loves Scott brown that much, why didn’t they re-elect him?

    • 144 Lorraine.
      December 20, 2012 at 12:01 pm

      I believe Senator Kennedy’s son is going to run for the seat. I can’t see Brown getting back in the Senate, the people of Mass. can’t be that stupid to give him another bite at the apple.

      • 145 Bill
        December 20, 2012 at 12:19 pm

        Ted Kennedy, Jr. at 51 years of age has never run for or held an elected office and lives in Connecticut. I wonder if he could win a contested primary and then defeat Brown.

        • 146 Lorraine.
          December 20, 2012 at 12:49 pm

          I think so, he has that same grit and determination like his famous father. I think with the Democratic machine (Pres. Obama, Pres. Clinton, Gov. Patrick and the Kennedy clan) behind him, he is a sure win.

  49. 147 carla4obama
    December 20, 2012 at 11:40 am

    Yardarm…WAKE UP! Where’s the PARTEE?

  50. December 20, 2012 at 11:44 am

    Another rough day for POTUS.

  51. December 20, 2012 at 11:54 am

    Some light pre-Christmas reading.

  52. December 20, 2012 at 11:56 am

    President Obama will Walter Reed National Military Medical Center this afternoon to visit with wounded troops and his families, the White House announced.

  53. 164 xtine
    December 20, 2012 at 11:57 am

    [Yep, STOP IT (use your best Duchess of LaJollaShire voice here)! From Smartypants}:

    “And yesterday, I’m sorry to say that one of my favorite writers – p m carpenter – joined the poutrage club. But today, when its clear what’s actually going on here, he resorts once again to calling President Obama “lucky.” We’ve been there before. It wasn’t true then, and its not true now. STOP IT!”


    • 165 Japa21
      December 20, 2012 at 12:11 pm

      I also view PM as one of my favorite writers. In fact, in 2010 he was a very strong supporter of the deal that PBO worked out. Less so of the debt ceiling solution last year. My whole problem is that all of these people who are screaming about the SS issue state that PBO offered this to Boehner. Yet, Carney himself specifically said this was one of Boehner’s demands. It did not come from PBO, nor was it ever stated that PBO agreed to it. I will shriek loudly if Chained CPI is instituted but until I see it as an actual aprt of an agreement, I am going to hold my tongue.

  54. December 20, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    Good morning TOD. I have called my senator, Lautenberg, thanking him for his plan to introduce a bill
    for the reduction of the clips from 30 to 10. However I must say that I am still not satisfied with
    the 10 round magazize clip. That’s 10 lives! why should we settle for that? So I did express that sentiment
    in my call although I know they will have to fight the Repugs even to go to 10.

    Also been calling Boehner’s office asking him to work with the Prez. on behalf of the American people and
    put his re-election as speaker on the back burner.

    Sent an e-mail to Jake Tappers boss at ABC yesterday decrying his disrespectful tone toward PBO. I see
    where a lot of people contacted them about this so I hope it will have some effect. Thanks to the person
    on TOD who gave us the contact info.

    As WIW always encourages us, lets keep the pressure on all the obstructionists. And as PBO said yesterday,
    he needs our help as he can’t do it alone.

    Enjoy your office party Chips 🙂 Have a great Thursday everyone.

  55. December 20, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    If folks are still feeling the need to call Representative, take a gander at this list of people who have signed the Discharge petition and get on the horn with anyone whose name is not on it. http://clerk.house.gov/112/lrc/pd/petitions/DisPet0006.xml It only has until Christmas to gather enough signatures and they’re short.

  56. 169 Bill R.
    December 20, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    If John Boehner were a smart guy, which he is not, he could find an easy way out of his dilemma. He could simply give covert permission to enough defectors to sign the petition to allow a vote on the Senate bill. The bill passes and is signed, and Boehner is off the hook for having caused a tax increase on the middle class, but can say he hasn’t caved. He can then get re-elected to speakership first week of Jan. and then negotiate the rest of it after that.

  57. 173 dotster3
    December 20, 2012 at 12:29 pm

  58. 174 FiredUpInCA
    December 20, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    December 20, 2012. The day that my President broke Grover Norquist.

    “Grover Bends The Pledge For Boehner”


    Nope TPM. He is nog “bending” the pledge, he is breaking the pledge. Agreeing to taxes on millionaires means he’s advocating breaking his own no-taxes-ever-never-ever pledge.

    The lesson is do not underestimate the skinny man with the funny name.

    He doesn’t yell and denigrate like so many around him. He just quietly and strategically wins with a smile.

    • 175 carla4obama
      December 20, 2012 at 12:52 pm

      Can someone explain to me why Norquist wields so much power over repugs? He is not an elected official. Yes I know the threat of primarying against any repug that breaks with the pledge, but how does the oath that every congress-person takes when then are sworn in , play second fiddle to the Norquist pledge? Why has the media not had a full investigation into this power…this power that has ruined our democratic system. He must be broken and exposed for what he is.

      • December 20, 2012 at 12:58 pm

        Because it’s no longer about doing what’s in the best interest of the will of the people. It’s about becoming a member of the House and Senate simply to gain power and access and $$$ while doing practically nothing. They are completely useless to Americans in any positive sense. In fact they are HARMING us in every single way.

      • 178 FiredUpInCA
        December 20, 2012 at 1:14 pm

        The GOP is a cult that craves authoritarians and unquestioning loyalty to any fool notion whether it’s squandering a surplus, going to war in Iraq based on poor intelligence, fetishizing tax cuts or semi-automatic weapons. We are a sane party and a loyal opposition sharing a political space with a radicalized cult.

  59. December 20, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    Well, if Chips gets sports alerts on her phone, she might be hitting the sauce heavy at her lunch. Man U just got drawn against Real Madrid for the Champions League Round of 16.

  60. 184 Bill R.
    December 20, 2012 at 12:53 pm

  61. 185 Bill R.
    December 20, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    Here’s the problem, folks. Boehner can’t even lead from behind. He doesn’t have the votes even for his own plan.

    WASHINGTON — Administration officials believe that John Boehner is proposing an alternative fiscal plan because he can’t bring his own House Republican caucus to the table for a deal Boehner himself proposed to the President Obama this weekend, a senior administration official told BuzzFeed Thursday.
    “Senior administration officials have been told by Republicans that the reason the Speaker turned to Plan B is that he concluded that he couldn’t get sufficient Republican support for the offer that he presented to the President over the weekend,” the official told BuzzFeed.
    The overt shot at Boehner’s control of his members comes at a bitter point in the negotiations between the White House and the speaker over a plan to avert a set of mandated spending cuts, especially to defense spending, and automatic tax increases. Boehner, who maintains an at-times-fragile grip on his very conservative caucus, is facing intense pressure from his right to back off his consent to tax rate increases on millionaires — a component of both his “plan b” and various drafts of a comprehensive agreement with the president.
    Obama didn’t accept Boehner’s offer, instead proposing a counter-offer of his own. Boehner’s office responded to the administration charge calling it “stupid and untrue.”
    “This is stupid and untrue,” said spokesman Michael Steel. “Once the White House leaked their latest offer, the Speaker’s office immediately briefed reporters to explain how absurdly unbalanced it was. The Speaker was clear that he could not support the President’s plan, let alone recommend it to Members of the House.”
    Boehner faced a backlash from within his caucus on the back-up plan, which would only deal with the middle class tax cuts. Realizing the plan didn’t have the votes, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor quickly introduced a spending cut bill Wednesday that would replace the mandatory “sequester” cuts. Cantor said Thursday morning that House Republicans have the votes to pass both measures today.
    The White House has already threatened to veto the “Plan B” and has accused Boehner of wasting time instead of negotiating a solution to the fiscal cliff. Boehner has called on Obama to “get serious” and present him with an offer with 1:1 spending cuts and revenue increases. (The White House maintains they’ve met that criteria, but the two sides disagree whether interest savings should be counted as spending cuts.)
    Both sides maintain that staff talks between the two sides continue, but the two principals haven’t spoken since Monday night.”

  62. December 20, 2012 at 1:03 pm

  63. December 20, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    • 189 Don
      December 20, 2012 at 1:19 pm

      I’ve been saying that for the longest time, Bob. I think there are some Republicans that might not want to commit suicide so close to Christmas.

      • December 20, 2012 at 1:36 pm

        The only way they can avoid that fate, at this time, is to sign the Discharge petition but that would take more than 17 Rs. The interesting scenario is when the 113th comes into session and the vote for Speaker happens. At that time, only 17 Rs would need to flip to D for the Ds to be in the majority. I would not even remotely consider mentioning this strategy if the House Dems hadn’t won for than a million more votes than House Rs on 6 Nov 2012.

        Also, I know it’s not a high probability scenario, but if we really want a functioning Government the next two years, committing the energy to convincing 17 Rs to flip seems a mighty small investment for what would be a major improvement in what PBO and all of us could accomplish – all of which will be hampered by a R controlled House.


    • December 20, 2012 at 1:36 pm

      I wish that were true, but she can’t even find enough Dems to sign the Discharge Petition. Doesn’t seem like anyone is in control of that place right now.

      • December 20, 2012 at 1:48 pm

        She needs 26 Rs in the 112th to sign to have a majority and she has said she knows that more than enough Rs have indicated to her they are willing to vote for the Senate bill if it comes to a vote. I don’t think she will have any problem having the entire D caucus sign if 26 Rs break with Boehner and sign it. I suspect the trigger for that break will be the result of what the President tells the Nation after Boehner’s Plan B fiasco vote. The Rs have no idea how much grief they are going to get in the next 24-48 h.

  64. 193 tally
    December 20, 2012 at 1:15 pm

    This is the first time I’ve seen the Spiderboy pic!

  65. 194 Don
    December 20, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    I love the way Jay Carney let Jake Tapper twist in the wind begging to ask a question. And when Carney does call on Jake, Jake will no doubt ask a stupid question.

  66. December 20, 2012 at 1:21 pm

  67. December 20, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    Neat that Leader Pelosi RTs a @whitehouse tweet 🙂

  68. December 20, 2012 at 1:30 pm

    Reid says if Plan B passes the House, it will not be taken up by the Senate.

  69. December 20, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    Rubio is threatening to place a hold on Hagel. GAH.

    • 205 anniebella
      December 20, 2012 at 1:53 pm

      Anyone want to know where were the President? Trying to deal with a bunch of right wing radical terrorists Tea Party Republicans, like Rubio, who only agenda was to bring him down.

    • 206 COS
      December 20, 2012 at 1:57 pm

      Hey Meta, I saw Joe Circiona(sp) on Bill Press this morning, (very credible guy) and he said that the Jewish people who are making noise about Hagel are the neocons who want to start war with Iran and are in favor of settlements like Bibi. He read a list of republicans who speak very highly of Hagel and said that Hagel’s nomination would probably sail through. What is Rubio’s problem? We need that filibuster reform bad.

      • December 20, 2012 at 2:38 pm

        Wow, there is so much tangled up in this mess. YES, filibuster reform – which seemed like such a radical idea just a year or two ago – can’t come fast enough.

  70. December 20, 2012 at 1:40 pm

  71. 209 anniebella
    December 20, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    I’m listening to Jay speak to those weasels, I don’t know how he does it, because if I was up there I would have to put the weasels in their place every now and then. Jake and Henry for sure.

  72. December 20, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    If the Constitutional Purists™ were to be consistent about everything is unconstitutional unless it’s actually in the constitution, then owning assault rifles is unconstitutional because the framers of the Constitution meant muzzle loaders when they used the term ‘arms’.

  73. December 20, 2012 at 2:33 pm


    The author, Larry Alan Burns is a federal district judge in San Diego.

    “Bring back the assault weapons ban, and bring it back with some teeth this time. Ban the manufacture, importation, sale, transfer and possession of both assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. Don’t let people who already have them keep them. Don’t let ones that have already been manufactured stay on the market. I don’t care whether it’s called gun control or a gun ban. I’m for it.

    I say all of this as a gun owner. I say it as a conservative who was appointed to the federal bench by a Republican president. I say it as someone who prefers Fox News to MSNBC, and National Review Online to the Daily Kos. I say it as someone who thinks the Supreme Court got it right in District of Columbia vs. Heller, when it held that the 2nd Amendment gives us the right to possess guns for self-defense. (That’s why I have mine.) I say it as someone who, generally speaking, is not a big fan of the regulatory state.

    I even say it as someone whose feelings about the NRA mirror the left’s feelings about Planned Parenthood: It has a useful advocacy function in our deliberative democracy, and much of what it does should not be controversial at all.

    And I say it, finally, mindful of the arguments on the other side, at least as I understand them: that a high-capacity magazine is not that different from multiple smaller-capacity magazines; and that if we ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines one day, there’s a danger we would ban guns altogether the next, and your life might depend on you having one.

    But if we can’t find a way to draw sensible lines with guns that balance individual rights and the public interest, we may as well call the American experiment in democracy a failure.

    There is just no reason civilians need to own assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. Gun enthusiasts can still have their venison chili, shoot for sport and competition, and make a home invader flee for his life without pretending they are a part of the SEAL team that took out Osama bin Laden.”

  74. 219 No Child Left Behind
    December 20, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    Does anyone know when the issue of the Time’s Person of the Year coming out? Jay had one but when I rushed to purchase a few yesterday, I was told that that issue hadn’t hit the kiosks yet. Thank you.

    • 220 sherijr
      December 20, 2012 at 3:27 pm

      I looked yesterday too… I think it depends on when it hits your stores. When I was a Barnes & Nobles yesterday, they said they’d have it either today or tomorrow (when they receive their deliveries).

  75. December 20, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    mornin’, actually, good afternoon to you chipsticks and TOD family! chips i do hope you survived or are in the process of surviving the luncheon! you posted a pic of my favorite ❤ cat <3, LOVE YOU for that! okay, had to share that, now i'll scroll back up and see what's what's in the news! 😀

  76. 222 jacquelineoboomer
    December 20, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    Good afternoon, TODlers. I notice there’s a Mayan in the room, eh? #KeepCalmAndCarryWine (Ha!)

  77. 225 Rain
    December 20, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    Afternoon, friends. Did anyone see this? The interview with the Bardens just broke my heart, that poor boy crying while his father spoke about his little brother. This is just beyond sad.


    • 226 0388jojothecat
      December 20, 2012 at 4:23 pm

      It is very sad that all these children and adults were mowed down last week but this is NOT President Obama’s fault or something he can do on his own. He needs the majority of this country to say enough is enough as ot stands only 67% thinks they should be banned, to me it should be 90%. The President would have signed legislation back in 2009, 2010 and 2011 but the public was asleep at the wheel thinking this can’t happen to me or my family. Where were all these families when the assault rife ban expired under Bush? If only there was an uproar to not let these weapons be sold back then a lot of people and children would be alive today.

      • December 20, 2012 at 4:57 pm

        I agree, the comment about their meeting with Obama saddened me. I thought it was grossly unfair, but hesitated to say so as I’d hate to criticize parents experiencing such a dreadful nightmare.

        • 228 0388jojothecat
          December 20, 2012 at 6:13 pm

          I know they are hurting Rain and I would be too if I had a very young family member killed so senselessly. I have had two adult male (African American) killed by gangs with a gun. It does not matter the age when someone in your family is killed you are sad, then angry, you want revenge. I could not think straight I had so much anger and pain until I got professional help to deal with it ( was a 30yr old). But I did not blame President Bush I or President Clinton. Then State Senator Obama tried to pass a law on a ban of hand guns in Illinois and the SCOTUS said it was unconstitutional in 2009 when Obama was President. Anything the President did BEFORE December 14 would have been struck down. It unfortunately takes something as horrific as killing 20 6yr olds to get the public attention and the GOP legislature to agree to do something. If we had a DEM majority in the house and senate in 2004 the ban on these weapons would have been extended without a doubt. Elections matter…

  78. December 20, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    Where’s amk? We need to ask him if the world’s ended, since it’s Friday where he is.

  79. 234 xtine
    December 20, 2012 at 4:01 pm


    “President Obama is poised to protect 2,093 square nautical miles of ocean habitat off the coast of Sonoma and Mendocino counties, a move that would more than double the area covered by two national sanctuaries off the West Coast and permanently ban offshore oil drilling there.

    “The decision, expected Thursday, would create an enormous preserve stretching some 50 miles along the California coast and extending some 30 miles out to sea. It would also fulfill the long-held dream of Rep. Lynn Woolsey, D-Petaluma, who has tried repeatedly since 2004 to pass legislation protecting the coastal ecosystem.”



  80. 237 dotster3
    December 20, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    Bashir is correct—–that one thing has become very clear—–John Boehner is NOT a leader, he is being led. And he’s taking us all down with him.

  81. 238 andogriff
    December 20, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    Hi to all TOD friends, hello Ms Chips! Hope your lunchy-worky thing is going great! Two more hours to go until midnight here… I’ll let you all know if the world ends!

    • 239 vcprezofan2
      December 20, 2012 at 5:30 pm

      Thanks, AG. More than an hour since you promised. Any signs yet? I’ll await your full report…. on the ending activities in their proper sequence. So that I’ll know what to expect. 😆

  82. December 20, 2012 at 4:02 pm

  83. 241 FiredUpInCA
    December 20, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    The Grand Old Projection party…

    “I’m convinced the president is unwilling to stand up to his own party,” Boehner said at a press conference on Capitol Hill.”


    • 242 sherijr
      December 20, 2012 at 5:09 pm

      wow he’s got a lotta nerve, what a load of malarky.. a truly vile man is Boehner.

    • 243 Lovepolitics2008
      December 20, 2012 at 5:26 pm

      I don’t know if I should laugh or cry. The dishonesty is so over the top. I honestly don’t know how President Obama is able to keep his sanity, having to deal with such a degenerate opposition.

    • 244 susanne
      December 20, 2012 at 5:26 pm

      projection much?

    • 245 vcprezofan2
      December 20, 2012 at 5:39 pm

      Typical GOP behaviour as far as I’ve seen – try to paint your opponent with your own weaknesses. Problems is they may sound sincere doing so because they can so perfectly describe their own weaknesses.

      • 246 nathkatun7
        December 20, 2012 at 8:45 pm

        You are absolutely right, VC This is “typical GOP behavior.” Unfortunately, our so called mainstream media lets people like Boehner, Rove and Romney get away with it.

  84. 247 xtine
    December 20, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    [James Carter, IV!!]:

    The freelance researcher who became a minor campaign celebrity after unearthing the now-infamous video of Mitt Romney railing against 47 percent of Americans at a private fundraiser has used his political fame to start his own opposition research firm.

    [….] After the 47 percent video broke, Carter got a slew of job offers from news organizations such as the Huffington Post, Reuters, and The Daily Beast.

    But he knew early on that a job in media wasn’t for him. “I’m very partisan,” he said. “The way I look at it, having to even acknowledge that there’s another side of the argument is doing the other side’s work for them.”

    So he decided to start his own opposition research firm instead. He didn’t know how to start a business, but his cousin lawyer helped him file the papers, and on Oct. 15, he officially opened Carter Research, LLC, for business.

    The firm operates from Carter’s home in Atlanta, where he and his wife work together side-by-side. “She’s the writer, and does some researcher too, but she mainly puts it in a form that’s presentable to the client,” he said.


  85. 248 utaustinliberal
    December 20, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    No wonder. The jackass is moving to Fox Lite so that he can continue being a jackass.

  86. 252 sabreen60
    December 20, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    I don’t know if anyone commented on this yet, but it seems that Jake Tapper will move to CNN aka FOX Lite. He caught hell on Twitter yesterday and maybe our emails worked, too.


  87. December 20, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    • 254 jackiegrumbacher
      December 20, 2012 at 5:00 pm

      Aaahhhh yes, Bob, little Jakie Tapper… home at last. Now he can leave the big bad world of real journalism and nasty tweeters behind and get down with his own kind. He’s smiling happily–he’ll be home by Christmas. Meanwhile in the White House press room, the front row smells amazingly fresher.

  88. 255 xtine
    December 20, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    [Sometimes this man makes me want to spit! Some fun comments at post, though! 🙂 ]:

    “We are exactly where our first president George Washington warned us not to go, where members of Congress would put the interest of their party or political faction, as Washington described it, higher than the interest of our country.”

    — Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT), in an interview with ABC News.


  89. 256 donna dem 4 obama
    December 20, 2012 at 4:56 pm

    Our very own CollegeKay got all A’s this semester. Congrats CK for an excellent job of being a shining light for our youth!!!!!!!!

  90. 274 carolyn
    December 20, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    So…..is this a chicken/egg riddle? Which came first, Jake’s offer with CNN, or ABC’s app’t of Jonathan Karl, and Jake scrambling. I bet yesterday did not help Jake. Does this mean he won’t be part of the WHPC any more, so won’t be posturing and preening and sneering for the camera?

  91. 275 sherijr
    December 20, 2012 at 5:02 pm

    I got an invitation to the White House for tomorrow 🙂 !!! I don’t think I’m going to make it though :(. I’m honestly amazed by this, I can’t believe its happened… to me??

  92. 291 utaustinliberal
    December 20, 2012 at 5:02 pm

    • 292 anniebella
      December 20, 2012 at 6:34 pm

      Is it true Jake Tapper is leaving ABC? I have his going away present all ready for the stinking skunk.

      • 293 Pamela
        December 20, 2012 at 10:26 pm

        I hope we had something to do with this, yesterday. He went too far, and now he’s gone. I don’t watch tv anyway, so it doesn’t matter to me, but ain’t no one gonna get away with being ugly to our PBO!

  93. 294 sherijr
    December 20, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    Wow Collegekay.. I just read Donna’s comment about your All AAAAAA’s – AWESOME! Congratulations 🙂

    • 295 0388jojothecat
      December 20, 2012 at 7:06 pm


      • 296 sherijr
        December 20, 2012 at 7:28 pm

        thank you jo-jo 🙂 I, however just received another email informing me/us that tomorrow’s event w/ POTUS has now been cancelled, but will be rescheduled :(. So hopefully, I’ll still get to go when they reschedule.

  94. December 20, 2012 at 5:07 pm

    Not sure whether someone else pointed this out already, but I thought I´d share that in case that didn´t happen.


  95. 298 JER
    December 20, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    • December 20, 2012 at 5:24 pm

      May God bless him; strengthen him; comfort him and surround him with peace! Love that man!!!

    • 300 LDS
      December 20, 2012 at 5:25 pm

      Congrats, Collegekay.
      I am praying that our President spends some vacation time with his family real soon. He needs some rest and relaxation.
      They deserve some private time together.

      So Yardam, what time is the party supposed to start? In NYC we start getting ready at 11:00……is this an all night party or what?
      Tell the DJ to turn up the music, then. At least celebrate Jake the Snake will not occupy the front row anymore.
      Is that why he went rogue yesterday? He just walked into the “hell pit” that he was destined for.
      Now, he will be exposed for who he really is. He is home…….BURN BABY BURN!

  96. 305 JER
    December 20, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    Photo of PBO departing the White House for Walter Reed National Military Medical Center: http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Barack+Obama+Obama+Departs+White+House+Walter+w1XJYNpn8XXx.jpg

  97. 306 dotster3
    December 20, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    I detest the indecency of these Republicans—-something basic is missing in the hearts and souls of these sickos

    • 307 anniebella
      December 20, 2012 at 6:45 pm

      Hay Tapper, you want to know where President Obama have been? Trying to get this country back from a great depression with no help from those radical terrorists Republicans.

      • 308 99ts
        December 20, 2012 at 7:01 pm

        I find it quite amazing that Tapper’s move to CNN is “big news”. The media seems to see themselves AS the news – when their role used to be to REPORT the news.

  98. 309 susanne
    December 20, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    aloha yardarm and todville! just back from the nursing home where our group danced kachi-kachi style for the residents. lots of smiling faces greeting this fun, traditional music from plantation days. here’s a clip of a party from that era:

  99. 312 susanne
    December 20, 2012 at 6:01 pm

    slideshow of senator inouye’s capitol rotunda honors:

    ‘ On Thursday morning, Inouye’s casket was carried into the U.S. Capitol Rotunda ahead of memorial services attended by the senator’s family, Vice President Joe Biden and numerous other members of Congress.

    Inouye was remembered fondly by those who spoke at the service, including Biden, who talked about the impact Inouye had on himself and his children.

    “I never met a man with as much loyalty to his family, to his country, and to his friends,” said Biden. “There wasn’t one single attribute of Danny’s character that I didn’t want my own sons to possess.” ‘


  100. 313 dotster3
    December 20, 2012 at 6:03 pm

  101. 315 susanne
    December 20, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    cory booker to run for senate in 2014:

    ‘ The Newark mayor says he will “finish the work we started” in his second term and “explore the possibility of running for United States Senate in 2014.” A source says he’s decided to run for Senate. ‘


  102. December 20, 2012 at 6:10 pm

  103. December 20, 2012 at 6:21 pm

  104. 321 anniebella
    December 20, 2012 at 6:37 pm

    Joe Madison said that John Boehner will go down in history as the WORST Speaker even.

  105. 322 dotster3
    December 20, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    Hopefully, just a beginning —-gun picnic is over

    • 323 yardarm756
      December 20, 2012 at 6:48 pm

      Wow. I sure hope their paper work is in order.

    • 324 desertflower
      December 20, 2012 at 6:57 pm


      Riverview Gun Sales is the same store where police believe a different man stole an assault weapon and was trying to carry out a similar attack.

      In a video obtained by Eyewitness News, Jordan Marsh, 26, of South Windsor, can be seen stealing an AR-15 with a scope just four days earlier.

      Marsh was caught stealing a 50-caliber long gun from the Riverview Gun Sales on Saturday. Police found the AR-15 in a duffel bag in a room at the Hartford Hilton that day.

      “It’s scary, I mean I got three kids,” said Sharon Hodge of south Windsor, who spoke with Eyewitness News

      For the past two years, she has opened her home to Marsh, who is her boyfriend’s son.

      Marsh, who Hodge said suffers from schizophrenia as well as other mental issues, was off his medication when he was arrested Saturday.

      “It’s unbelievable,” Hodge said after seeing the story on WFSB.

      Police said Riverview Gun Sales had no idea the AR-15 Marsh stole was missing. Management at the store didn’t know about 11 guns that Marsh had allegedly stolen last year until they were notified by detectives.

      Inventory control issues at Riverview Gun Sales have occurred before. In 2007, state police raided a Somers home and found a bunch of stolen guns from the store.

      “It was found that the same Riverview gun store was missing upwards of 30 plus guns,” said East Windsor police Detective Matthew Carl.


      • 325 0388jojothecat
        December 20, 2012 at 7:19 pm

        These weapons should have locks on them so if they are stolen they can’t be used.

      • December 20, 2012 at 7:22 pm

        Every single thing about this story just sickens me. The history of thefts, the lax paperwork, the guy off his meds with his hands on extremely dangerous weapons, the shock and surprise of this woman. OMG, just a toxic mess waiting for a detonator. I’m so sickened by all of this.

  106. 327 xtine
    December 20, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    Way to go CollegeKay! Congratulations!

  107. 328 99ts
    December 20, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    No doubt the GOP will blame President Obama because the world didn’t end today – 9.46am 21 Dec 2012 in my world

  108. 333 dotster3
    December 20, 2012 at 6:52 pm

    Boehner rejects Dems push for immediate legislation on gun bill. He said we should just be thinking about the victims—-not acting on any kind of remedy for the tragedy. I can no longer tolerate this poor excuse for a human being. He thinks his role is to obstruct everything—–every decency.


    • 334 99ts
      December 20, 2012 at 7:00 pm

      Methinks the GOP are hoping for bigger and better gun slaughter – they really hate the USA – of what good has it ever done to “think about the victims”

    • December 20, 2012 at 7:28 pm

      The Republican Party has turned into the British, or the Red Coats of 1775! They wish they could go back to those times, that is what they preach everyday.

    • 336 Rain
      December 20, 2012 at 7:28 pm

      This man is certifiable. His obsession with going against PBO at every turn is way out of hand.

    • 338 jacquelineoboomer
      December 20, 2012 at 9:06 pm

      The first time I ever “noticed” a school security guard in an inner-city high school back in the early ’90s, I was sickened then. Sending in the National Guard now? Get the damn guns out of the hands of our citizens, first.

  109. December 20, 2012 at 7:27 pm

  110. 341 dotster3
    December 20, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    Tweety just said he didn’t think the NRA would want to do anything about gun laws “until something horrible happens”. He doesn’t consider the Ct. massacre as something horrible happening????? I give up. Our news blabbers are stupid beyond belief. Shameful. I’m at the end of my rope.

    • December 20, 2012 at 7:32 pm

      I’m with you, dotster. I’m ready to take to the streets. Between Boehner and his insanity and this horrible massacre in CT, I have had it. They disgust me beyond words.

    • 343 99ts
      December 20, 2012 at 7:49 pm

      One doesn’t need much imagination to know what “horrible happening” Tweety is talking about – the media make the trouble – so they can report it.

    • 344 nathkatun7
      December 20, 2012 at 9:38 pm

      Absolutely amazing! Yes, Dotster, “Our news blabbers are stupid beyond belief.” Personally, I just don’t see the need of having these nitwits bombard our ears (and brains), 24-7, with all this BS. I am not one for nostalgia, but I think we would all be better off if all the 24-7 cable news were totally shut down. We need to go back to the days when real journalists reported news; and when, now and then, seasoned journalists offered informed opinions about the most crucial issues. No wonder Americans are so confused and so polarized. In addition to the non-stop “blabbering” on talk radio they have to put up with the 24-7 Cable news “blabbers.”

  111. December 20, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    Letter to Newtown from FLOTUS:

    Letter From Michelle Obama: ‘Holding You In Our Hearts’


    So choked up right now.

  112. 347 amk for obama
    December 20, 2012 at 7:33 pm

  113. December 20, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    Ha, ha the House has adjourned for an emergency recess before the much anticipated Plan B vote. Why, you ask? Cause ol’ Boner don’t have the votes. Lawdy what a nincompoot

  114. 350 sherijr
    December 20, 2012 at 7:39 pm

    thank you all for your good wishes on my invite to the WH… however, they just sent another email informing us that tomorrow’s event has been cancelled & will be rescheduled. Hopefully I’ll get to go- in fact this will work out better for me as I wasn’t sure I could get there tomorrow. But wow wow wow – there is no way I ever could of guessed this would come my way. I’m one of the folks who’ve never been able to go to a rally (being in ND) or seen POTUS or FLOTUS except on tv.

    I’m going to frame the email invite 🙂 🙂

    • December 20, 2012 at 7:45 pm

      Well, thank you so much for responding to the call for personal stories about the $2K cut. See, it really does matter!!

      • 352 sherijr
        December 20, 2012 at 7:58 pm

        It does seem to matter- for the likes of me to be invited to the White House is truly amazing ~ I will never forget this… and will hopefully get another chance.. however it would be way better for everyone Boehner would do right & agree to POTUS’ agenda.

  115. 354 amk for obama
    December 20, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    Hey CollegeKay. Congrats on all those A’s. Just e-mail my beers, OKay ?

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