Rise and Shine


President Obama, Newtown, Dec 16:

…. can we truly say, as a nation, that we are meeting our obligations? Can we honestly say that we’re doing enough to keep our children – all of them – safe from harm? Can we claim, as a nation, that we’re all together there, letting them know that they are loved, and teaching them to love in return? Can we say that we’re truly doing enough to give all the children of this country the chance they deserve to live out their lives in happiness and with purpose?

I’ve been reflecting on this the last few days, and if we’re honest with ourselves, the answer is no. We’re not doing enough. And we will have to change.

…. We can’t tolerate this anymore ….. Surely, we can do better than this. If there is even one step we can take to save another child, or another parent, or another town, from the grief that has visited Tucson, and Aurora, and Oak Creek, and Newtown, and communities from Columbine to Blacksburg before that – then surely we have an obligation to try.

….. We can’t accept events like this as routine. Are we really prepared to say that we’re powerless in the face of such carnage, that the politics are too hard? Are we prepared to say that such violence visited on our children year after year after year is somehow the price of our freedom?

The full transcript of the President’s remarks











Morning everyone.

115 Responses to “Rise and Shine”

    • December 17, 2012 at 8:15 am

      Morning Mary, Ranman and everyone.

      • December 17, 2012 at 8:18 am

        Chips, If I get a picture this time, may I have the one of him holding that newborn, so tiny. I think he met the family about a year later and his picture was taken with the little boy again. But that baby picture just spoke to me. I couldn’t stop looking at it.

  1. 4 proudmemberofglobalzero
    December 17, 2012 at 8:12 am

    Hope for a better start for family’s in CT today. 1st two children to be laid to rest today. I don’t think I could cope.

  2. December 17, 2012 at 8:14 am

    God morning Chips and TOD family. I hope everyone have super fantastic day today. Congrats Maryl1 on being first this lovely Monday morning.

  3. December 17, 2012 at 8:16 am

    Commander in chief to parent in grief. True, and beautifully said. President Obama is a beautiful man, inside and out. I admire his strength more than I can say. I’m praying he never has to do this again; that no one in this country has to go through this again.

  4. 7 Sweetpeg
    December 17, 2012 at 8:18 am

    Good Morning, I hope today is a marvelous Monday, although the pain in our nation is still there.

  5. December 17, 2012 at 8:27 am

    Morning Everyone!

    Waking up on my new mattress and bed. I can almost touch the ceiling…its too dang high. Gotta go with slats I guess. 😦

  6. 13 a4alice
    December 17, 2012 at 8:29 am

    OK you guys, here we go. I tweeted and emailed my peeps over the weekend and I think today at lunch I’ll try calling their offices to put in a word to help Feinstein on her gun bill. I also threw in some of the ideas that we all have been talking about. I’m telling you this not to tootle a toot my horn but to tell you how fast it is to do with Linda’s elected official finder, she really makes it easy.

    Here’s the list of elected officials from Linda’s site: http://www.whatisworking.com/2011/05/contact-congress-address-phone-twitter.html

    I’d encourage anyone to give their elected official a ring or an email or a tweet – let them know how you feel about gun control

    • December 17, 2012 at 8:33 am

      Great work Alice – and Linda. This time has to be different.

    • December 17, 2012 at 8:43 am

      As most of you know, I did my calls on Friday. Will send some emails to same people today.

    • 16 sjterrid
      December 17, 2012 at 12:58 pm

      I sent out emails to my reps on Saturday.

      • 17 a4alice
        December 17, 2012 at 1:03 pm

        woo-hoo! and TNMtngirl called too. I know others have as well. On a personal note I got a response from someone who was going to call our senators and talk to them about mental health as well. On the other hand I got a response from a right wing friend of mine who sent me an article on why teachers should have guns in the classroom…….sigh……..

        • 18 sjterrid
          December 17, 2012 at 1:12 pm

          I was going to write an email to my Senator Lautenberg?, but he had a press release on taking up legislation for banning these weapons, so I thanked him and told him we need to regulate a gun the same way we do a car.

  7. 19 donna dem 4 obama
    December 17, 2012 at 8:34 am

    Good Morning TOD,

    I go off to work with a continued heavy heart today. I can only hope that our collective prayers and thoughts can somehow give these parents some moment of peace as they prepare to do the unimaginable, bury their young.

    Thank God for President Obama who too often has had to be our Comforter-In-Chief. I pray that this is a defining moment for our Nation. When the sorrow of this heinous act fades from the public and we go back to our “normal” lives what will be our action then? As my Gram used to say, “If you don’t stand for something, you will fall for anything”. It’s time for America to stand tall and do the right things to protect our babies. If not now, when?

    Let’s pray that this was the tragic wake up call that will forever ban these horrible weapons of mass destruction.

    I’ll be doing whatever I can within my power to support Congress and the President in response to this call to action.

    Bless you all!!

  8. 21 desertflower
    December 17, 2012 at 8:40 am

    The late, great Molly Ivins and her take on guns. Morning, TOD


    • 22 amk for obama
      December 17, 2012 at 8:48 am

      She shreds the usual nra talking points rather easily, doesn’t she ?

      GM folks

      • December 17, 2012 at 8:50 am

        Morning Amk. What a powerful piece, but depressing that it was written as long ago as 1993.

        • 24 amk for obama
          December 17, 2012 at 8:54 am

          Morning Chips. I will take the early morning flak. The founding fathers were idjits to pass 1st and 2nd amendments. I bet if they are alive today, they will shot all the rwnj’s and completely modify/eliminate them.

          • December 17, 2012 at 9:01 am

            I’m with ya Amk, although in their defense I’d imagine they never realised just how insane the world would become. I’m a ‘with rights must come responsibility’ person, and that should apply to freedom of speech, the friggin’ right to bear arms and everything else.

            • December 17, 2012 at 10:49 am

              The founding fathers NEVER imagined a congress that is dumber than a box of rocks and can’t think past their next fundraiser. They never dreamed that the people would allow their elected officials to be bought and paid for by special interest.

          • December 17, 2012 at 12:59 pm

            I am sick to effing death of people dissing our Founding Fathers. I’m deeply offended by your comment, amk. They were NOT idiots for passing those amendments. Go back in time and put it in context and you will see that it was brave and relevant and ground-breaking to do what they did. They aren’t any more responsible for the bastardization of those amendments by present-day monsters as the people who wrote the original texts of the bible. The idiots are not the original authors of the texts, but the people who interpret them to their own ends.

            • 28 amk for obama
              December 17, 2012 at 1:25 pm

              Don’t care, Tien Le. I am not into worshiping human gods. No one is infallible and beyond criticism. And definitely, your founding fathers had plenty of flaws to criticize. Your getting sick of people who criticize them won’t change my mind.

              • 29 edp4bho
                December 17, 2012 at 1:44 pm

                Love your response amk, and I take absolutely NO offense, seeing as these same founders thought enslaving my people was a-okay, and taking the land from the indigenous was the “right thing to do” according to so many in that era, seeing as the natives weren’t doing anything with it anyway. Can we say ARROGANCE ?

                • 30 amk for obama
                  December 17, 2012 at 2:00 pm

                  Race bias, Gender Bias. You name it. They had it. And 2nd amendment was simply institutionalization of violence in a democracy, where it has no place. It was all about empowering white men. They were after all fucking pols, not saints, for whom I don’t care for either.

                  I am not into constitutional porn. Any constitution needs to have the ability to grow with time. There are only two things I firmly believe that are vital in a democracy. Right to vote and Right to a fair & unbiased trial. All other stuff like free speech, “freedom”, etc. are on the table for criticism/negotiation/modification/amendment.

              • December 17, 2012 at 2:00 pm

                They weren’t human gods, I never said they were. They weren’t idiots either. If they had been the fine, moral, upstanding people you needed them to be in that very dark time, would you still say that? The First Amendment is the bedrock of this country. The second amendment is deeply flawed and written at a time when no one could have possibly imagined what would have happened as a result. The idiots are the people who use these amendments to do harm. The amendments themselves are not evil. They were meant to be used to break away from a Tyranny. The same Tyranny that caused all kinds of problems in your own country. Movements for Independence from Tyranny are not perfect and lead to other problems. I’m very proud to be descended from many of the brave men and women who fought the British Empire, flawed as they were. I love my country deeply and am very proud of the people who fought and died and lost everything to create this great country. I hate that they owned slaves and some of them treated the Native people badly, but for the most part, the Patriots who served this country did neither. Slave owners were few and far between. Most people didn’t have the money or the inclination to do that. They couldn’t afford guns either. I don’t need to change your mind, but I have every right to ask for your respect for our history and the unique democracy that was created by these flawed people.

                • 32 amk for obama
                  December 17, 2012 at 2:07 pm

                  As I have said many times, I really don’t care for your first & second amendments, which are idiotic. If you take that as a disrespect to your history and your ‘unique’ democracy, that’s your problem, not mine.

                    • 34 amk for obama
                      December 17, 2012 at 2:18 pm

                      Good night Tien Le. Hope no hard feelings.

                    • December 17, 2012 at 2:54 pm

                      That ship already sailed, AMK. I have family who are direct descendants of the Framers of the Constitution. Friends, too. I think before you spend a lot of time trashing the 1st Amendment, it would pay to look how you benefit from it…this and every blog in America would not exist w/o the 1st Amendment.

                    • 36 amk for obama
                      December 17, 2012 at 3:09 pm

                      Nonsense. There are plenty of countries around the world without your first precious first amendment that have plenty of free speech and free blogs too.

                      I am done,

          • 37 nabsentia23
            December 17, 2012 at 1:07 pm

            When the Founding Fathers were alive, guns were necessary. They were used to get food and yes, for protection since there was no firmly established law enforcement. Also, the Founding Fathers did believe that citizens should be armed to protect themselves against state tyranny.

            And if you were honest about it, it’s only in modern times (after gun regulations have been loosening) that we are seeing so many shootings in peace time among private citizens. If you were to look to our neighbors to the north, Canada, you would find a lot of guns too. However, do they have the gun violence we have? Nope.

            The problem is that we have a gun lobby who believes that the 2nd Amendment is absolute when it never has been. Constitutional rights can be regulated (but not taken away). Felons and prisoners can’t own guns. If the 2nd Amendment is absolute, the exact opposite would be true. To me, the 2nd Amendment is not the problem. It’s laws in support of it that are a problem. Private citizens can own guns while maintaining a peaceful society. However, when access to them is unregulated and guns that are used in war (e.g. assault rifles) can be bought with relative ease, then there’s a problem. A serious one.

            Yet, the Constitution can be changed and who knows what they would have thought if they were living in 2012.

            • 38 theo67
              December 17, 2012 at 2:00 pm

              Too right – the Constitution speaks to a “well-regulated militia”. Isn’t that the US military now? There’s no need for a private militia, and I believe if there was one, it would be illegal and treasonous. They can’t have it both ways – either we disband the military and the Defense Department and arm every citizen (reverting back 200 years), or we let the military and police do the protecting for all of us – at home and abroad. Can’t have both.

              • 39 edp4bho
                December 17, 2012 at 2:28 pm

                My thinking exactly. It’s been a long time coming, but refreshing to see others see the “militia” as I have always seen it. In a newly formed government (very flawed as it was), there is no standing army, so yes, citizens were armed, though only few and only white men. I don’t know why folks can’t see this. Why DO we need the police if we can arm ourselves?

    • 40 HZ
      December 17, 2012 at 8:50 am

      Good Morning Chips and TOD Family. Let us give thanks for our great and heavy hearted president this morning.

      May Grace be his companion throughout this day, and Mercy keep his steps and action on a level ground so he may walk this journey with courage, love, compassion, and deep convictions to lead this nation alongside of him. Lord, he can’t do it all alone, so send those of us who are willingly saying, “Lord send me, I will go.” May the men and women in Congress open their hearts and minds to be those who will open their hearts and do the right thing for all of our communities.

      (((((((((((((((((((((((( Be with each parent and those who will be laying their precious loved ones to rest today.)))))))))))))))))HZ

    • 44 a4alice
      December 17, 2012 at 8:53 am

  9. 45 idon
    December 17, 2012 at 8:42 am

    Morning TOD. I love my President so much. I thank God for him every day. I tweeted PBO and said I am with him and all I need are my marching orders. The speech was so beautiful and PBO with the children is a wonderous and beautiful and powerful thing to behold. I love my President.

  10. 46 utaustinliberal
    December 17, 2012 at 8:49 am

    Morning TOD. Keeping the families of the Newtown, CT shooting in my thoughts today especially as the first set of funerals begin today. I have no clue how the parents burying their children today and tomorrow cope with this. That’s not the way it should occur and I just continue to wish them comfort and strength in this very difficult time. I hope the words Pres. Obama spoke gave them a measure of hope, peace, and comfort because that’s what they did for me.

    • 47 jackiegrumbacher
      December 17, 2012 at 8:59 am

      Some things literally are unbearable UT. Yet people manage to put one foot in front of the other and go on breathing even though each breath is painful. They will need the support of every loving family member and friend as well as the nation for a very long time.

  11. 48 dotster3
    December 17, 2012 at 8:56 am

    This made me sick and disgusted too—-Manchin saying about 100 times that he was “a proud gun owner”——what the hell pride is there in that? Sick, sick, sick.

    • December 17, 2012 at 8:58 am

      Dotster, remember that nauseating campaign ad he made showing him shooting? He is vile.

      • 50 Bill
        December 17, 2012 at 9:13 am

        I believe he was “shooting” the cap and trade bill. He also skipped the repeal of the DADT vote to attend a Christmas party. He is easily the worst Democrat in the Senate.

        • December 17, 2012 at 9:20 am

          Ah, I couldn’t remember what it was about Bill, he makes my skin crawl.

          • 52 Left-Indie
            December 17, 2012 at 1:23 pm

            Please for context. He is from W. VA where thems just hates the Prez. If he has to clown with a gun and win, it’s ok. That is a plus 1 for the Dems. We should be able to overlook certain situation for the big picture.

            • December 17, 2012 at 1:48 pm

              We’ll agree to differ, Left-Indie. Overlooking situations is why we are where we are.

            • 54 Chi
              December 17, 2012 at 2:18 pm

              Sorry but there is absolutely no ‘context’ to Joe Manchin’s horrid attitude…

              If one lacks decency and integrity and continues to blatantly deceive and feed the ignorance and hate of the electorate to stay in office, then shame on them…

              That Joe Manchin lacks any integrity, decency – or clout and the respect of the W. Virginia people he governed over and was supposedly popular with for years…

              That Joe Manchin cannot even correct the basic lies peddled about the President – the head of his party – for fear of losing the support of the people he governed for years – people who we are told know and respect him…

              That Joe Manchin has to rely on ginning up the hate and lies against President Obama peddled to the people of W. Virginia in order to keep his Senate seat…

              Sorry, but there is no way any decent person should support this dishonest, malicious and craven mindset and attitude…

              That anyone would excuse Joe Manchin and this dangerous game of slanderous deceit he willfully engages in – just to hold on to a Senate seat that has served no one but Manchin really, is not only appalling, but inconsistent with the spirit of decency and change many of us seek in our embrace of the type of democracy and politics President Obama represents…

    • 55 anniebella
      December 17, 2012 at 10:18 am

      Let Manchin be a proud gun owner. Just not a proud owner of those weapons like Bushmasters.

  12. 56 desertflower
    December 17, 2012 at 8:58 am

    How to help the people of Sandy Hook. Many good links here for donations and writing your own healing thoughts to them. Please pass along


  13. 57 lovingandlaughing
    December 17, 2012 at 9:01 am

    Good morning everyone. So thankful for this place, especially right now reading those headlines. Love to you all. I almost cried just reading an email from the principal of my first and fourth grade girls. The email just stated the reason why a CT State Trooper was in a parking lot this morning, She said a State Trooper has been assigned to monitor each public school this morning.

  14. December 17, 2012 at 9:01 am

    G’morning Chips, TOD, lurkers everyone. My thoughts and best wishes go out to the families burying their little ones this week. It will be tough but our nation and the international community stand with them. Our President was able to begin the healing process yesterday through his comforting words and calls for action. I’m so happy he is our President at this time.

    • 59 vcprezofan2
      December 17, 2012 at 9:24 am

      Morning, Hopefruit! I’m as happy as you that we have the only President for these difficult times, and I’m also holding those mourning families in my thoughts this week and next. I can’t imagine what the holidays are going to be like because for so many families Christmas holidays are for the kids.

  15. December 17, 2012 at 9:03 am

    Good morning, TODville. I have a lump in my throat again. This sadness runs deep.

    Let’s stand with our President today. Let’s move and make our voices heard loud and clear today. We demand change today.


  16. 61 desertflower
    December 17, 2012 at 9:04 am

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed

    Declaration of Independence.Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness were all taken away for these 27 people.The most fundamental right of all.

  17. 62 Japa21
    December 17, 2012 at 9:10 am

    Good morning all. The last few days have been difficult for the entire nation and, indeed most of the world. The rest of the world looks at the US and wonders if we a nuts. It is time…no, it is past time…for us to do something. And this time we will. We cannot get rid of all guns, npr can we be a country where gun violence will never happen. But we can do things to mitigate that violence.
    It is not solely in controlling weapons that the answers will be found. It is also in looking at our culture and what this society considers important. We need to look at the mental health system in this country. We need to look at what triggers violence in the “sane” portion of our population.
    There is not an immediate fix, but there are steps to take.
    And no, AMK, the founders were not idiots. The First and Second amendments had very specific reasons for existing. However, both have been stretched far beyond their original meanings. Until we reach some level of sanity in how both of those amendments are interpreted and utilized, this country will have problems.

    Oh, and congrats on 16 million, Cips.

    • 63 vcprezofan2
      December 17, 2012 at 9:20 am

      Good Morning, Japa! Sharp eyes you’ve got there! I never noticed that 16 million – I’m really slipping. 😉

      CONGRATULATIONS, Mayoress Chips! Your family’s growth is just unstoppable. You haven’t had blog fertility treatments, have you? 😆 😆 😆 WE LOVE YOU, GIRl!

      • December 17, 2012 at 9:27 am

        “blog fertility treatments” 🙂

        VC, I had all kinds of plans to ask for small donations to charities of everyone’s choice to mark the occasion, but yesterday wasn’t the right time. Another time, maybe. Thanks VC.

        • 65 vcprezofan2
          December 17, 2012 at 9:51 am

          YVW, CC! Another time, yes.

          Hey, your family may be humongous but you sure know how to feed us to keep us healthy and strong! 😉 😉
          And how to nurture us when we (you included) are in pain!
          ¡Muchissimas gracias y felicitaciones! 😆 😆

  18. 67 amk for obama
    December 17, 2012 at 9:13 am

  19. December 17, 2012 at 9:15 am

    Please, when you contact your reps, tell them to write legislation that does not have an expiration date. These laws should not run out, they should stay on the books forever.

    • 70 a4alice
      December 17, 2012 at 9:37 am

    • 72 nathkatun7
      December 17, 2012 at 4:33 pm

      You make a good point, meta. The problem is no law passed by Congress can be permanent. Laws passed by Congress are always subject to repeal or revision by subsequent congresses. Then there is the other huddle that the laws may be struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court. That’s why I think that even as Congress passes new restrictions, we should also be working for a new amend. to the Constitution that either repeals or modifies the 2nd Amendment. The other route is to devise a creative interpretation of the 2nd Amendment that would lead the Supreme Court to, at the minimum, ban individual ownership of assault weapons.

  20. 73 amk for obama
    December 17, 2012 at 9:15 am

    Chips – could you please delete the above ? Thanks.

  21. 76 vcprezofan2
    December 17, 2012 at 9:15 am

    G’Morning Maryl, I see you way up there! 😆

    G’Morning Ms, Chips and TODville! Today is the start of something new…. as I hope each day is. Let’s make the most of it while not forgetting those who need a hug, words of encouragement, solace, or the positive vibes we can all send their way.

  22. 77 Don
    December 17, 2012 at 9:16 am

    Michael Bloomberg can’t even stop his “Stop and Frisk” in New York City, so where does he get the balls to now go after President Obama? Bloomberg is nothing but a media WHORE in thousand dollar shoes.

  23. 81 jackiegrumbacher
    December 17, 2012 at 9:22 am

    I thought the president’s definition of parenthood was powerful and struck a deep chord. Your heart does live outside your body when you become a parent and every instinct you have is to protect that precious human being that is your child. And then he brought it to everyone–we are all parents because every child needs a community to keep him or her safe. And the only time we can be sure we’re doing something absolutely right is when we’re helping a child. Think of that. Everybody in Newtown, everybody in Connecticut and everybody in the US is a parent to the children who died in the school. It’s not someone else’s tragedy. It’s ours.

    I was glad that the president said he would bring a mental health perspective to the problem of gun violence because this is another prong of the problem. We don’t have adequate (and certainly not affordable) mental health solutions for those who exhibit or have the potential for violent behavior. We medicate people or, if they do something violent, incarcerate them, but we have no good systems for identifying and dealing with potentially violent people. Parents who see the possibility of violence in their children have few places to go if they’re not millionaires. We’ve got to restrict assault weapons and we’ve got to provide real mental health solutions. I have a neighbor who works in a community service organization and she said the options for the mentally ill poor are very limited and her group struggles to find ways to help them in a situation where few resources are available. As a nation we make the choice to spend untold billions on weapons of mass destruction and cannot find the relatively small amount of funds it would take to help the mentally ill. The president, once again, sees all aspects of a problem.

    • 82 Chi
      December 17, 2012 at 9:46 am

      ‘…As a nation we make the choice to spend untold billions on weapons of mass destruction and cannot find the relatively small amount of funds it would take to help the mentally ill. The president, once again, sees all aspects of a problem…’

      So true…

  24. December 17, 2012 at 9:23 am

    Joe Scarborough: Newtown Shooting Made ‘Ideologies Of My Past’ On Guns Irrelevant (VIDEO)

    “”I knew that day that the ideologies of my past career were no longer relevant to the future that I want, that I demand for my children. Friday changed everything. It must change everything. We all must begin anew and demand that Washington’s old way of doing business is no longer acceptable. Entertainment moguls don’t have an absolute right to glorify murder while spreading mayhem in young minds across America. And our Bill of Rights does not guarantee gun manufacturers the absolute right to sell military-style, high-caliber, semi-automatic combat assault rifles with high-capacity magazines to whoever the hell they want.
    It is time for Congress to put children before deadly dogmas. It’s time for politicians to start focusing more on protecting our schoolyards than putting together their next fundraiser. It’s time for Washington to stop trying to win endless wars overseas when we’re losing the war at home … For the sake of my four children and yours, I choose life and I choose change.”


  25. 85 Don
    December 17, 2012 at 9:23 am

    Joe Lieberman seems so small when compared to President Obama.

    • 86 Chi
      December 17, 2012 at 9:52 am

      They all do…

      President Obama dwarfs them all with his intrinsic decency, his grace, his dignity, his empathy, his brilliance, his heart, his authenticity, his lack of malice, his bigness, and his sheer desire to do good for all without wanting credit and without any personal or political gain or self-promotion…

      Without trying or wanting to, President Obama by his very presence and just being, makes them all look so small…

  26. 88 dotster3
    December 17, 2012 at 9:25 am

    A couple of tough sentences in here, but I thought this was an excellent and on point editorial in the Hartford Courant.
    “The right to public safety trumps the right to own an arsenal.”

  27. December 17, 2012 at 9:27 am

  28. 92 carolyn
    December 17, 2012 at 9:27 am

    I want one of those NRA accepting Senators or Reps to state loud and publicly that he/she will no longer accept funds from the NRA. I do not have the faith to believe that will happen, but I wrote my Rep last night and told him how ashamed I was of him, that he, as a Christian, would accept funds from an organization whose sole purpose was to violate the 6th commandment. Next I will ask him to publicly declare he will accept no funds from them. I think this is a pressure point we all can use with our reps and Sens. Just another idea.

  29. December 17, 2012 at 9:34 am

    Sen Lieberman:

    ” I thought the president was really magnificent. First, he spent a lot of time with the families that have lost loved ones and with the first responders and that was very important to them,” Lieberman said on MSNBC. “He was just very comforting and very strengthening and he was himself very moved. Secondly, I thought his speech was powerful both in evoking our tradition of faith in times of crisis in America and comforting, but really most significant out of all, he had a real resolve last night that was deeply appreciated in that high school auditorium, which is that these tragedies must end.”


    • 94 anniebella
      December 17, 2012 at 10:05 am

      I think Sen. Lieberman might be showing some signs of his common sense returning since he doesn’t hang with that bitter old fool from Arizona so much.

    • 95 daisydem
      December 17, 2012 at 11:02 am

      No love here for Lieberman, but that is a nice statement. And it rings genuine and humble. Thank you Mr. Lieberman for that.

  30. 96 amk for obama
    December 17, 2012 at 9:39 am

    Congrats Chips on hitting 16 mil. May this number grow unlike your age, which seems stuck at 21.

  31. December 17, 2012 at 9:39 am

  32. 101 dotster3
    December 17, 2012 at 9:40 am

    Change in gun laws is the #1 goal, the #1 priority by far, but this also needs to be part of the equation. I don’t see how any clear thinking person could say these games that glorify murder is a good thing for our kids—–not all kids are affected, but some are, and some spend every free minute with these video games, not monitored by parents. Can’t help but have damaging, negative effects.

  33. December 17, 2012 at 9:44 am

    Does anyone know if this has been verified?

  34. December 17, 2012 at 9:47 am

  35. December 17, 2012 at 9:48 am

    Chips, if you’re here, could we please have a new thread? This one is wonky.

  36. December 17, 2012 at 9:49 am

    Hey Chips! Something’s wrong with the order of the comments.

  37. 109 dotster3
    December 17, 2012 at 9:51 am

  38. 110 dotster3
    December 17, 2012 at 9:52 am

    Comments are appearing in odd places again.

  39. 112 jacquelineoboomer
    December 17, 2012 at 10:00 am

    Thanks for the full transcript of the President’s remarks, Chips. I was looking for it last night. Can’t bear to watch him giving his speech, again, so I’d like to just read it.

    The dominoes are falling … the President’s words have given others courage. Don Lemon on CNN went off on a several-minute rant this morning, responding to a pundit who said gun violence is down, yada yada yada. He said that was an insult to the victims’ families, and mentioned he gets tears in his eyes every time he talks from Newtown, and people there have been crying for more than 24 hours straight. Not sure if he had that planned to say or not, my trust level for the media is so low, but he carried it off, so I’ll give him a well done.

  40. December 17, 2012 at 10:07 am

    I guess Boner Also said he will raise debt ceiling for 1 year clean. WH said get lost.

    December 17, 2012 at 11:16 am


  42. 115 capricornrising
    December 17, 2012 at 12:13 pm

    chipsticks THANK YOU ever so much… the photos, captions, thoughts & words are PRICELESS. feelings they/you generate, LOVE. ❤ THX everyone!!!

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