289 Responses to “How long to sing this song?”

  1. 1 Proud Former White House Intern
    December 15, 2012 at 6:34 pm

    Wow still speechless

  2. 5 utaustinliberal
    December 15, 2012 at 6:34 pm

    My heart breaks for all of them.

  3. 6 Roberta in MN
    December 15, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    Thanks Chips. That was quite a sond. And all day, the MSM has been going on and on about the President as to do something now. It’s like there is nobody else on Capital Hill that can write a damned bill on some kind of law for gun safety. I had shopping to do today, so I just got home and came here first. Thank you again. You heal our hearts.

    • 7 anniebella
      December 15, 2012 at 6:54 pm

      Rep. McCarthy is one of the main one running her mouth, trying to blame the President for their being no gun control law. As someone said she has been in Congress over nine years and what has she got done? She knows those dam Republicans that this President has had to deal with.

    • 10 majiir
      December 15, 2012 at 8:11 pm

      These are the same bast*rds who have been attacking PBO for wanting/trying to do the right things for the country and for us since he took office, Roberta, and every step of the way, they have failed by refusing to tell the American people that it’s the republicans who are responsible for the high deficit, the proliferation of guns in our country, our still high unemployment rate, no jobs bill being passed, etc. These cowards have no right to say anything about PBO “doing” anything because whenever he does try to do things, they join with the republicans and make it seem as if he is the problem. They have scapegoated PBO from Day 1. Shortly after Rep. Giffords was shot in AZ, the president penned an op-ed that appeared in one of AZ’s largest newspapers, and the press ignored it. Where were their lazy behinds then? PBO has spoken about gun violence numerous times, and the MSM’s stenographers do what they usually do–they either ignores him, or their networks bring someone from the NRA, the GOP, or some other anti-Obama group on and allows them to make it appear as if the president is being unreasonable. I’m sick of them, and it’s a major reason why I stopped watching any TV “news” program on any network. A majority of them are RW shills, wouldn’t know the truth if it was a bird and pecked both of their eyes out, and are rank, mewling cowards. They invite RW politicians onto their networks to bash PBO, when they should be grilling them about the things they haven’t done. None of the republicans have come out and shown one iota of real concern for the kids who died in CT yesterday, none of them have said anything about the need to reinstitute the ban on assault weapons or mentioned the word gun control, and they won’t because the NRA and other pro-gun lobbying groups have muzzles on their mouths. The MSM’ stenographers have no reason to call on PBO to “do” something that is clearly the responsibility of Congress, and their obvious stupidity is another reason I pay zero attention to them, Roberta.

      • 11 majiir
        December 15, 2012 at 8:14 pm

        Sorry for the typos, but I am steamed about our sorry MSM and its tendency to avoid it main responsibility–telling the American people the truth.

        • 12 nathkatun7
          December 16, 2012 at 1:52 am

          Majiir, typos or no typos, you spoke the absolute TRUTH! I totally share your anger against the people who turning this horrific act of terror into an excuse to attack President Obama.

  4. 13 dudette9t9
    December 15, 2012 at 6:52 pm

    Thanks for the video Chips. Perfect!

  5. 14 Pamela
    December 15, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    Hi everyone, cold and wet out here today. Not a lot to say. {{{{Chipsticks}}}} {{{{{PBO}}}}} {{{{TOD}}}}. We are all so sad.

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  7. 19 hopefruit2
    December 15, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    Thank you Chips.

  8. December 15, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    Thank you chips for the video. Good evening everyone!

  9. 21 hopefruit2
    December 15, 2012 at 7:01 pm

    • December 15, 2012 at 7:25 pm

      Well, don’t make fun of this ex Military dude if I get teary eyed during that.

      • 23 hopefruit2
        December 15, 2012 at 7:32 pm

        I won’t. Most people watching will probably have the same reaction as our ex Military dude.

      • 25 HZ
        December 15, 2012 at 7:48 pm

        ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( We love you jovie, and we thank you deeply for your service.)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) and you can get teary eyed all you want if I were there with you, I would personally bring the Kleenex and wipe your tears. Love you jovie141.HZ

      • 26 dudette9t9
        December 15, 2012 at 7:51 pm

        The person who could make fun of anyone crying in that circumstance has no soul.

      • December 15, 2012 at 7:57 pm

        Jovie, i don’t normally cry. And I cried twice yesterday. You won’t be alone.

        • 28 HZ
          December 15, 2012 at 8:42 pm

          LL, I have been crying all day. When I go into my old office space in my home,the tears really flow. Children gave me a beautiful life(and I pray and hope that I did the same for them and their parents) for 36 years full sounds and conversations that were so full of joy that only come from bright little ones with dreams, joy and aspirations for a beautiful life to contribute to their society. So those of us who met them face to face each day have every piece within our souls weeping during this time.

          I so appreciate Chips for allowing us to lift each other up along with lifting POB and FLOTUS and his team as he also deals with this awful tragedy. Let us continue to pray for the families, the First Responders and their families, and the entire staff at Sandy Hook ES. May God’s grace be with each little heart and mind, and with all who will participate in the inter-faith service tomorrow.

          I have my music and my candles going on at this very moment. I sent some emails to some of my administrators and school board members thanking them for their support, courage, and safety provisions provided for all of us while I was in the district. We just have to grieve in our own ways, and most of all think of millions of teachers, school staff, first responders, mayors, governors, and millions of students who are trying to process all of this. We will do what is right. POB will be given the people who will work with him to do the right thing. That is how I am praying for him in my own little meditational time. God, give POB and VPBiden those you want to work with them to get this done and do it because it is the right thing. ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( We Love Each Other Here at TOD)))))))))))))))))))))))HZ

      • 29 yardarm756
        December 15, 2012 at 10:01 pm

        I’ll be right beside ya jovie with a hanky for you and one for me.

  10. 30 hopefruit2
    December 15, 2012 at 7:07 pm

  11. 33 dudette9t9
    December 15, 2012 at 7:12 pm

    This woman is on a crusade or something! I’m starting to wonder if maybe she had an unfortunate experience at aPlanned Parenthood clinic herself as a young woman or teenager. If not her, perhaps a close family member.

  12. 34 dotster3
    December 15, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    Reports from a babysitter hired by the mother to watch Adam Lanza even as a teenager, telling the sitter to not leave the room even for a minute, to not even go to the bathroom and leave him unattended. And still—–with that kind of serious concern—–she obviously allowed him access to her beloved gun collection. She so loved her guns that she even proudly showed off her newest acquisition—a new rifle of some sort—possibly the bushmaster used in the killings—- to a landscaper who was putting up her outside xmas lights. Tragic consequences to this sick passion.

    • 35 hopefruit2
      December 15, 2012 at 7:21 pm

      The sitter was an enabler in this situation. All the people now coming out of the woodwork with anecdotes after 20 young children are dead – why didn’t you say something back then? Even if it meant possibly losing the friendship of that woman? When someone’s behavior is so disturbing – and a teenager who can’t be left alone “for a minute” fits that criteria – why would you keep silent about it?

      • 36 pkayden
        December 15, 2012 at 8:04 pm

        But even if the babysitter spoke up, how would that change the fact that he had access to his mother’s legally acquired guns?

      • 37 utaustinliberal
        December 16, 2012 at 4:08 am

        You cannot the blame the babysitter in this situation. What could she possibly have done? She was but a kid herself. This is not her fault.The deranged murderer who killed those children and adults is primarily at fault.

        • 38 hopefruit2
          December 16, 2012 at 9:28 am

          You’re absolutely right that the murderer is primarily at fault and I think most would agree with you that any other, including the alleged babysitter was not primarily or singularly to blame. In fact that was actually my point – I just didn’t express it as clearly as I should have.

          My comment last night was posted out of intense frustration with the typical play out of these events , when we suddenly hear from a slew of characters who claim to have been intimately aware of behavior/mental disturbance of the perpetrator long before the crime occurs. The media (along with the family), in an attempt to deflect blame from the perpetrator and lack of appropriate gun laws, rushes to create a portrait of a mentally disturbed individual who was failed by society and by the mental health system. Then we see the general and predictable trotting out of people who “knew” that the person was ill and can give detailed anecdotes about how ill that person was.

    • 39 maureen28
      December 15, 2012 at 8:13 pm

      Well said: doster3!

  13. 40 dudette9t9
    December 15, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    • 41 pkayden
      December 15, 2012 at 8:07 pm

      Excellent suggestions. Why can’t this be done? Why is the NRA so dang powerful?

      • December 15, 2012 at 8:10 pm

        The sad thing, as I point out in my piece, is that most NRA rank and file members are FOR the regulations that the NRA leadership is against. They have to take back that organization. That, or abandon it.

        • 43 pkayden
          December 15, 2012 at 8:45 pm

          Then why don’t the NRA rank and file members put pressure on the NRA leaders to support those regulations? If the murder of 20 children doesn’t change anything, nothing is going to change. Period.

          • December 15, 2012 at 8:50 pm

            And as I say in my piece, if they sit silently, then blood is on their hands as much as it is on Wayne LaPierre’s. This is when they have to ask themselves: are they for life, or for the culture of the gun. I’m not sanguine; as you said, even 20 dead kids might not be enough. But again, it might. Hope has to live.

          • 45 Puddin'
            December 16, 2012 at 12:13 am

            20 plus children are murdered everyday somewhere in this country (sometimes in one day in i.e. Chicago) and that has not made a difference/change in anything. But, I do believe a change is going to come…we have to stay strong and keep the faith…and most of all we must not waste time nor energy on the nay sayers. PBO is a leader, a great leader and he will lead those of us who want to be part of the solution (not the problem).

  14. December 15, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    House GOP plans to put fuel standard on trial in next Congress
    Zack Colman
    12/15/12 04:13 PM ET
    Committee staff is gearing up for hearings on the subject, citing recent concerns from the AAA.…

    So, now they are going to try and take away 54.5 mpg?
    All hail the Koch Brothers?

  15. 47 maureen28
    December 15, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    Our hearts are broken today… For the little angels & the brave teachers who lost their lives to protect their young students.
    My prayers and thoughts are with the people of Newtown, CT.

    How Long to sing this song?

  16. December 15, 2012 at 7:38 pm


    King warns Sandy relief funds are in danger
    Alexander Bolton
    12/15/12 01:13 PM ET
    The New York Republican cites strong opposition among colleagues to a supplemental spending bill.…


    Who is worse the Tea Party or Al Qaeda?

  17. 50 Bill R.
    December 15, 2012 at 7:39 pm

    President Obama will go to Newtown, Conn., on Sunday to meet with the families of shooting vicrims and thank first responders, the White House says.

    Obama will also speak at an interfaith vigil at 7 p.m., according to a White House news release.

  18. December 15, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    My piece is up.

  19. 55 maureen28
    December 15, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    Our hearts are broken today. My prayers and blessing go to the fallen angels and to the 4 brave women who gave up their lives to save
    their students. To the teachers that somehow
    manage to get their students to a safe place.
    To the parents of the angels … No words can
    express the way we all feel today and many day’s to come.

    How long to sing this song?

  20. 56 Bill R.
    December 15, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    Whether we are religious or not, this time of year, a time of the greatest darkness, both of the season and now of horrific events and loss, we celebrate the Light within us and among us. It is my faith that evil and cruelty do not have the last word, innocence and love prevail over death and violence, now and always.

  21. 66 squarepeg
    December 15, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    Fuck Abby Hunstman.

  22. 87 jacquelineoboomer
    December 15, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    Well, thought I’d visit Twitter a bit, and that proved interesting.

    I had replied to a tweet last night about the little children that apparently hit a nerve with some gun freaks. I was accused of “standing atop 20 little children’s dead bodies to express his opinion.” They thought I was a guy and one of them sent me a graphic, calling me the “P” word, because I had blocked him. Another one called me a “worse” name: “lib.” Ha!

    So I informed ’em that “he” was a “she” – a 66-year-old great grandmother who was standing up for her five grandkids and one great grandson, and that I always block people I can’t reason with … and asked how proud their own grandmothers would be of them? Or something like that.

    One half apologized, calling me “ma’m.”

    Truthfully, I really would like to get in touch with their grandmothers, because they need a little “talking to.” And we all need better gun laws.

    • 88 carolyn
      December 15, 2012 at 7:56 pm

      Yes, grandmothers have power. Maybe that’s where the gun safety crusade should start…..with grandmothers.
      Just about everyone loves their grandmother, or at least speaks of her fondly. Grandmothers might be able to cut through the trash, as it sounds like you did jacqueline.
      This horror hit me all over again tonight, when I heard that the children were 6 & 7…..my precious grandson Eric is 6! I canNOT imagine losing him to a gunman. I cried watching the news…..I’m sure we all have.

      • 89 jacquelineoboomer
        December 15, 2012 at 8:08 pm

        Such an excellent idea, carolyn, for the grandmothers (and grandfathers) to unite. If I could get over some of the grief, I’d already be working on my “plan” to “do something” this weekend … when I get there, I may throw in the Grandmother’s Rule. I spoke to my nearly two-year-old great grandson by phone today, and felt even more lucky than I usually do. I’m sure you’ll hug your grandson first chance you get!

        • 90 jackiegrumbacher
          December 15, 2012 at 9:49 pm

          JOB–I wondered if any organization has tried uniting grandmothers, besides the AARP, which is really about grandmothers concerns for themselves. I’ll bet there is a big and powerful group of grannies who will do anything for their grandkids and would respond to a message of support for gun control.

          • 91 carolyn
            December 15, 2012 at 10:58 pm

            We grandmothers could be formidable…..

          • 92 kathryn kivett
            December 15, 2012 at 11:12 pm

            I think I just have found my leader….fellow Grandmama JOB…..when you get your plan, count me in….I’m a follower not a leader but a damn strong follower….Grandparents Against Gun Violence…GAGV..Grandparents Against Assult Weapons..GAAW….Grandparents For Safe Grandchildrens GSFG…something to rival NRA……come on people, let’s get fired up and ready to go….and I’ll bet Grandmama Robertson would join us…

    • 93 Rain
      December 15, 2012 at 8:08 pm

      People are always braver when they can hide behind a computer screen. Glad at least some apologized. And if it weren’t for those kinds of gun nuts there would not BE 20 precious little bodies or anyone to stand over.

    • 95 theo67
      December 16, 2012 at 12:44 am

      Well done, Jacq – the quality of discourse these days is really disgustingly low.

  23. December 15, 2012 at 8:00 pm

  24. 100 desertflower
    December 15, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    If you can bear to look at this precious little face. O.M.G. what are we doing????????????????


  25. December 15, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    • 109 pkayden
      December 15, 2012 at 8:18 pm

      Very touching!

    • 110 hopefruit2
      December 15, 2012 at 9:00 pm

      The lovely Plains I’m sorry for snapping at you on the earlier thread when you posted the “Santa at WH” tweet. I shouldn’t have done that! You were right – it was a holiday event, not a protest. I was wrong.

      • December 15, 2012 at 9:32 pm

        No Worries hopefruit2, I was genuinely second guessing everything I posted after that. I need to thank edwina3 myslef for clarifying the event. I know everyone’s emotions are all over the place going back to Thursday w/ Susan Rice. I came to the conclusion people are grieving in different ways and on edge including myself, so I was really taken aback when you got upset. I hope you and everyone at TOD have a wonderful holiday season, and wish everyone has something to celebrate.

        • 112 hopefruit2
          December 15, 2012 at 9:36 pm

          Thanks TLP for being so understanding. Indeed it’s a difficult time for everyone, but I should have taken the time to find out more before over- reacting. Have a blessed evening, and happy that you’re with us here on TOD!

  26. 114 Nena20409
    December 15, 2012 at 8:03 pm

    A 20 yrs old in some outfit with bullet proof vest and gunning 6 an 7 yrs old down with a semi-auto weapon is a Militia. Therefore, Our Constitution states that such Militia must be Well REGULATED.

  27. 115 desertflower
    December 15, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    http://www.bradycampaign.org/ You may send condolences here, and if you are able, consider a donation. Stop This Madness!!

  28. December 15, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    #SandyHook Action …


    Yes We Can

    • 130 susanne
      December 15, 2012 at 8:29 pm

      aren’t most guns sold at gun shows and over the internet? a loophole around laws requiring background checks, etc. that has to stop.

      anyone wishing to purchase a gun should be licensed in advance, and have to show at least as much identification as you do to vote in a red state to get that license, and then to buy a weapon.

      to get a license, there should be a training program, like for driving a car, and a testing program, extensive background checks, and a waiting period. this will be expensive, and not be paid by taxpayers, or gun makers, or gun sellers, but rather by gun license applicants.

      only guns legitimately needed for hunting food should be legal. any weapon designed to kill people should be illegal, except for law enforcement, state militia, etc.

      • December 15, 2012 at 8:35 pm

        All correct, Susanne. Twitter is rather constricting with 140 character limit, so I’ve been developing a stream of tweets that capture many of the key elements of sane control of weapons designed for ONLY one purpose – killing other people. And, for guns used primarily for hunting or sport shooting (targets, etc), all the steps you mention should be adhered.

        Thank you.

  29. December 15, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    • 136 pkayden
      December 15, 2012 at 8:50 pm

      Great idea. Hope this catches on. I interned there many years ago and sadly thought their cause was hopeless. Hope I was wrong and that we can move towards some sensible gun control legislation.

    • 137 globalcitizenlinda
      December 15, 2012 at 9:25 pm

      had not thought of this – being pro-active

  30. 138 susanne
    December 15, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    let’s remember who is our president. he’s got this, folks.


  31. December 15, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    By Adam Schefter | Dec 15, 2012 6:26 PM
    The New England Patriots will wear black-ribbon logos on their helmets Sunday in honor of the 26 victims of Friday’s Connecticut elementary school tragedy.

    The Patriots will also light 26 white flares during a moment of silence before Sunday night’s game against the San Francisco 49ers.

    The Patriots see Newtown as part of their New England base, and had a direct connection with Friday’s tragedy.

    The Kraft family that owns the Patriots also owns a box company, Rand-Whitney, that has factory less than one mile from Sandy Hook Elementary School.

    Rand-Whitney’s parking lot was used Friday as a meeting area for media members after the tragic shooting at the school, a Patriots official said this weekend.

    The New York Giants will honor the victims by having S.H.E.S. (Sandy Hook Elementary School) written on their helmets for Sunday’s game against the Atlanta Falcons.

  32. December 15, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    Hello everyone. This is so painfully sad. I can’t seem to tear myself away from the TV. These children, only 6 and 7. I have gotten mad, angry, sad and just feel so helpless. Why?

    • 151 HZ
      December 15, 2012 at 9:01 pm

      ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( Lots of loving and precious hugs just for you africatimes2)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))HZ

    • 153 theo67
      December 16, 2012 at 1:08 am

      Africa – tear yourself away from the TV. It’s not healthy to saturate yourself with this sadness. Give yourself a chance to digest this tragedy and then take action via one of the many activist efforts going on, such as the Bradley Campaign mentioned above. Continuing to watch it makes it an ongoing event in your mind – a continuing tragedy. Sadly, it happened, and it’s over and nothing can change the fact that it happened. We need to look forward now to what can be done to prevent this happening again.

  33. December 15, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    From TPM:

    Most of us are aware of studies that show that having a firearm in the home increases rather than decreases your chance of violent injury or death — usually through accidents or suicide. I was not aware of this peer-reviewed 2009 study by the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine study which concluded that people in possession of a gun were 4.5 times more likely to be shot during an assault than those who didn’t have a firearm.


  34. December 15, 2012 at 8:48 pm

  35. December 15, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    • 161 desertflower
      December 15, 2012 at 9:13 pm


      How many children have to die, how many innocents have to be lost in a mall or a theater or on a neighborhood street, how many presidents or political leaders or prophets like Dr. King have to be shot down in a fusillade that wounds history itself, before America protects the first of our founding inalienable rights—to “life”—which surely comes before the “liberty” of carrying a cache of weapons. And that demands gun control—and I’m not using a politically convenient phrase like “gun safety legislation.” Some guns are outright unsafe—assault weapons—and all guns are unsafe in the hands of some people.

      We as a society are hostage to the thugs of the NRA—which actually stands for the National Rampage Association.

      Republicans who claim to defend the “right to life” profit politically by defending the moral wrong of a wholesale arsenal of death inflicted on the already living.


      Let us resolve that half a century and more of this country as a killing field is more than enough. Let us refuse to let this day of dying fade into memory and the malaise of resignation to things as they are. Let us stand against the odds so that countless others who otherwise would never even know the cause of their slaying or the name of their executioner may instead live, laugh, and find love and not hate.

      Today Barack Obama spoke his heart and the nation’s—and called on us to take “meaningful action regardless of the politics.” Maybe at last, this is the time; it must be the time. The massacre has come too many times.

    • 163 carolyn
      December 15, 2012 at 11:32 pm

      Hey folks, guess what…..you can get personalized NRA Christmas cards!!!!!
      That list of the directors looks like Murderers’ Row.

  36. 164 Rain
    December 15, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    You guys inspired me to jump on Twitter finally…been putting it off….gotta figure it all out but here I am: https://twitter.com/BBStudios2

  37. 173 dudette9t9
    December 15, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    A rare laugh today — brought to you by SLOTUS Dr. Jill Biden!

  38. 179 globalcitizenlinda
    December 15, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    we cannot allow loud mouths to blame PBO for the gun voilence because we the voters are directly responsible for electing the legislators who are either bribed or cowed by the NRA.

    • 180 nathkatun7
      December 15, 2012 at 11:48 pm

      I agree with you globalcitizenlinda! Here is what i posted on the other thread in response to the planned protest this evening at the White House:

      “Why hold a direct-action protest at the White House? Is this another blame President Obama for the massacres? Why not hold the protest at the U.S. Supreme Court which has struck down local gun control laws, such as those of Washington, D.C.? Why not hold the protest at Capital Hill where the Congress refused to renew the ban on assault weapons? Why, of all places, are they not holding a massive direct action protest at the corporate headquarters of NRA, the principal organization championing uncontrolled gun ownership? I am sick and tired of fake progressives who expect the President to do everything. Instead of going out to mobilize and organize the grass-roots to convince the vast majority of Americans to support gun control legislation these protestors just want to be on T.V. throwing a tantrum at a President who pretty much supports the same cause.

      I am as outraged as any one at the horror inflicted on those children and their teachers. The pain that their parents and loved ones are going through is truly beyond my comprehension although I’ve personally known the pain of loosing a child. But the fact that I am outraged should not be an excuse for me to attack the President, who, probably more than any one else, is shouldering the heavy burden of trying to bring comfort to the parents and relatives who lost loved ones and also to the whole country in shock.

      To be honest, I am angry at those protesting at the White House. This should be a time for mourning and not protesting. I am sorry to say, but I regard this protest as pure grandstanding. This is using a horrific tragedy as an excuse to pile on the President. There is absolutely nothing President Obama could have done as President to prevent this “massacre.” ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! So what’s the purpose of protesting at the white House? I am sure the NRA, and those members of Congress who do its bidding, are happy to see the rage about what happened yesterday directed at the President who they are convinced is intent on confiscating all their guns.”

  39. 181 globalcitizenlinda
    December 15, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    #NewtonCTMassacre = #NRABuiltThat

  40. 185 dudette9t9
    December 15, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    A father’s statement to the world on the loss of his young daughter:
    “Thank you for all of your prayers and kind words of support. As we work through this nightmare, we’re reminded how much we’re loved and supported on this earth and by our Father in heaven. As much as she’s needed here and missed by her mother, brother and me, Ana beat us all to paradise. I love you sweetie girl.”

    • 186 Andy46
      December 15, 2012 at 9:36 pm

      CBC News here in Canada showed a picture of her; she is a beautiful little girl(heart breaking), they lived here in Canada he taught at one of the Universities in Winnipeg, moved to NewTown 3 years ago.
      JMO I don’t see the NRA surviving this once the all pictures of children are published.

    • 188 nathkatun7
      December 16, 2012 at 12:10 am

      Dudette, I am overwhelmed by the strength and grace of parents like Jimmy Greene. The song he named after his precious daughter, Ana Grace, reveals the depth of his love for her. Jimmy Greene and his family, as well as all the other families of the children and their teachers, are in my thoughts. I hope they all find strength to cope with this immense horror visited on them.

  41. 189 sonjiaduncan
    December 15, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    I didn’t know your name, I never saw your face,
    I never got to see you smile, or get to watch you play.
    I never got to walk with you or watch you board the bus,

    I never got to kiss your head and tell you that you’re loved.

    I never got to know you, we were worlds apart,
    But on this tragic day, you’ve a place in my heart.
    Your smile was robbed, your laughter stole away,
    But it is upon angel’s wings, you rest your head today.

    Take peace now, innocent one, worry not yourself,
    For it is in the arms of a nation, your love can now be felt.
    We may never understand the evil, which struck your life today,
    But know that through remembrance, you’re never far away.

    ‘Tis your turn now, our little ones,
    To smile down from above,
    Kiss mommy, kiss daddy,
    Tell them it’s okay,
    and they are forever loved.

    Now in peaceful rest, may you take, your place amongst the stars.
    Your memory never forgotten, always safe, kept in our hearts.
    It is with a solemn duty, to you we make this vow,
    To find the evil you met today, And with vengeance strike it down.

    ~~To the memory of all 27 of the innocent lives lost today at Sandy Hook Elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, with special dedication to the children. A nation mourns your loss today, our thoughts a prayers to your families and your community. May you all rest in peace.

  42. December 15, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    My lovely Governor scott said No to Health exchanges.

  43. December 15, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    Chips… So much you do… Weeping here, in Danbury, CT. And I should have wept for Aurora, and Gabby Giffords, and the Sikh temple, and all the others… I was sad. but I didn’t weep. And when our weeping is over, we must gather our rage and work to CHANGE THIS BULLSHIT. If we don’t, we’ll be singing this song forever.


    • 198 hopefruit2
      December 15, 2012 at 9:40 pm

      Condolences to you gatodicima and your Danbury neighbors. I have family in Fairfield County and they tell me that the while the malls are packed today (biggest shopping weekend before Christmas), the mood is more subdued than normal.

    • 199 theo67
      December 16, 2012 at 1:41 am

      It’s very sad, gatodicima.

  44. 200 bjw2
    December 15, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    For the littlest victims

    Eric Clapton: Tears in Heaven https://t.co/hFIF1zv0

  45. 202 amk for obama
    December 15, 2012 at 9:29 pm

  46. 203 Rain
    December 15, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    Here is a site that might help folks figure out who their representatives are, so that we can all make our voices heard.


  47. 204 hopefruit2
    December 15, 2012 at 10:01 pm

    PBO’s statement yesterday on the CT tragedy already 2.3M views on Youtube.

  48. 206 Tally
    December 15, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    Anyone staying up for this?

  49. December 15, 2012 at 10:14 pm

  50. December 15, 2012 at 10:15 pm

  51. 209 globalcitizenlinda
    December 15, 2012 at 10:19 pm

    Yesterday, the news of this horrible event in Newtown made me recall that one of my co-workers occassionally helps out his father-in-law at a gunshow. I know it is not fair to him to ascribe that tragedy to his actions but I could not help myself – I just kept giving him a dirty look every time I saw him. I refrained from talking about the events with him because I did not trust my mouth not to say something hurtful

  52. 211 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    December 15, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    Jazz sax player Jimmie Greene’s daughter, Ana Grace, was one of the twenty children murdered yesterday. Here is song he wrote for her in 2009.

  53. December 15, 2012 at 10:32 pm

  54. December 15, 2012 at 10:33 pm

  55. 215 Rain
    December 15, 2012 at 10:34 pm

    I really don’t understand why so many otherwise intelligent people (people I actually know) honestly think tighter gun control would not have prevented, or at the very least, lessened this tragedy. Someone please explain this to me.

  56. 217 amk for obama
    December 15, 2012 at 10:37 pm

  57. 218 jackiegrumbacher
    December 15, 2012 at 10:39 pm

    As I tried to distract myself with chores today, I was thinking of ways we can organize against gun terror. because that’s what it is–terror. I was in elementary school in the 50’s when kids were made to feel terrified of the atom bomb. We had our bomb drills where we hid under our desks and covered our heads or lined up in the hallways, knelt and covered our heads, as if any of that would defend us form an atomic bomb. What it did do was create the constant anxiety that we were never safe and I remember having bad dreams about being fried in our beds if a bomb were to come at night and didn’t have time to kneel and cover our heads. Children today will grow up with the fear of being shot to oblivion for no rhyme or reason, that some madman will appear out of nowhere and suddenly destroy their world and lives. The is the horror that every child in the US must deal with now on an everyday basis– the dread that something will happen to them and the teachers they love and that no one–not parents, not teachers, not principals, not policemen, not safety drills, can protect them. We don”t have the option to do nothing in the face of this terror. If it’s the last thing any of us do, we have to save our children.

    I there’s one thing we’ve learned from President Obama, it’s that we’re far more powerful than we think we are. He taught us the value of organizing, the value of bypassing all intermediaries, i.e., main stream media, and talking directly to each other. He told us that when people laugh at us and tell us we can’t do something, we have to say, Yes, We Can, and mean it and keep working at it. He laid out the roadmap for us and I think we need to dust it off and follow it. All of us were part of teams, whether neighborhood, precinct, or regional and I say, reactivate them. Call your fellow team members, arrange a meeting time and build your forces for neighbor to neighbor contact. Start making noises in your local papers or on local talk shows. Don’t get discouraged by criticism, keep on plugging. Donate everything you can to the Brady campaign and urge them to start thinking and acting big because the battles are just starting and they’re going to be fierce.
    Make sure every candidate who runs for any office from school board (especially) to mayor to state rep to US House to Senate knows that you’re going to be looking at and assessing their attitudes toward gun violence. Make them feel that there will be hell to pay at the voting booth if they don’t join the fight to protect our children. PBO taught us what to do and we just pulled off one of the most successful presidential campaigns in history. We’ve got the skills. Let’s use them.

    • December 15, 2012 at 10:41 pm

      Hope Chips features your comment, Jackie!!

      “Make sure every candidate who runs for any office from school board (especially) to mayor to state rep to US House to Senate knows that you’re going to be looking at and assessing their attitudes toward gun violence. Make them feel that there will be hell to pay at the voting booth if they don’t join the fight to protect our children. PBO taught us what to do and we just pulled off one of the most successful presidential campaigns in history. We’ve got the skills. Let’s use them.”


      Yes We Can

      • 220 dudette9t9
        December 15, 2012 at 11:27 pm

        YES. WE. CAN! “PBO taught us what do…” Don’t discount your power! We just follow his lead and big change can happen!

    • December 15, 2012 at 11:09 pm


      Thank you, Jackie.

    • 222 jacquelineoboomer
      December 16, 2012 at 12:43 am

      jackie – two things popped out at me, in particular, although everything you wrote was meaningful. First, “gun terror” – perfect way to express what’s happening. Second, I also was in grade school in the ’50s and remember the atom bomb drills where we’d have to seek cover under our wooden desks. And I remember all of the talk about the Communists’ taking over our country, and would have vivid dreams that the “dirty rotten Commies” (as everybody called them) were coming down my street to take away my family. I mentioned that to my son once (he’s 43), and he said his generation then went on to fear nuclear attack. Today’s poor children are fearing being shot in school, perhaps by someone in their community. Gettin’ closer to home, America. It’s all unfathomable that it’s always the children who suffer the most for the idiocy of the “grown-ups.”

    • 224 nathkatun7
      December 16, 2012 at 12:44 am

      Jackie, Thank you so much for this thoughtful statement which is also a powerful call to action. I wish people who are protesting at the White House would read you post. Yes, it’s we the people, united, who have the power and the capacity to bring about change to end this “gun terror.” It’s also through mobilization that genuine leaders, beholden to us and not to the NRA gun lobby, will emerge.

    • 225 theo67
      December 16, 2012 at 1:47 am

      Well said, Jackie. And excellent advice.

  58. December 15, 2012 at 10:40 pm

  59. December 15, 2012 at 10:45 pm

    Chips, important chart in this article …

    Chart: The U.S. has far more gun-related killings than any other developed country

  60. 231 Bill R.
    December 15, 2012 at 11:08 pm

    This is Victoria Soto. She gave her life for her students.

    This is Victoria Soto. Victoria was only 27. She was killed today after she hid her first graders in closets and cabinets and told the shooter they were in the gym. He killed her and not one of her children were harmed. God bless Victoria, her family and friends and all of those who were involved today in anyway. Victoria is a true hero!!

    Take note, America! This is who teachers are.

    • 232 Bill R.
      December 15, 2012 at 11:51 pm

      “Greater love has no person than this, that she lay down her life for her friends.” John 15:13

    • 233 Joy
      December 15, 2012 at 11:52 pm

      This just breaks my heart. 😦
      What a hero she was!

    • 234 nathkatun7
      December 16, 2012 at 2:57 am

      What an incredible human being! What an incredible teacher! I am just overwhelmed by her courage and caring. My deep condolences to her family and all the families who lost loved ones during this horrific act of terror. I also hope, Bill, that most Americans will heed your advice to take a moment and really see who the teachers really are. They are not the caricatures that right wingers have been portraying them as in order to attack them. Victoria Soto, just only 27 years old, was tasked with more dangerous responsibilities than those faced by these pompous right wing governors, state legislators, and members of Congress, who are always attacking teachers.

      May Victoria, her colleagues, and all the precious children, taken from us prematurely, live in eternal peace! Victoria Soto deserves a memorial for her heroism in saving the children in her class. She certainly taught me the real meaning of love and caring, and, above all, the true meaning of courage. These are the qualities that are truly lacking from all those politicians who are under the grip of the NRA.

  61. 235 Rain
    December 15, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    Just saw this….sorry if it’s already been posted but I don’t think it has. There is absolutely NO logic to their argument whatsoever.


  62. 236 DeeDub
    December 15, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    Hello Chipsticks,

    Thank you for the love you share through this informative, compassionate, fair minded site. I discovered your wonderful oasis in 2009 and have visited often, content to listen, hearing my own views reflected and rarely needing to comment. Not a lurker, but a silent admirer. 🙂

    I have eliminated the toxicity of mainstream TV/cable news from my home so your site has become a primary source for current events concerning President Barack Obama and now the nation. Thank you for the uplifting thoughts, words, visuals! Your TOD family is diverse, eclectic, awesome, intelligent, reasoned, loving, and committed to raising the truth about Barack. This family gathering place is much appreciated!

    In the aftermath of the horrific shootings of schoolchildren, I came to TOD first to hear the comments of our President. I stayed to read almost every comment and link posted and just when I needed a glimmer of hope, Rita sends an infusion of positive vibrations with the link to the inspiring video Moments-that-restored-our-faith-in-humanity-this-year. So wonderful! Your latest video is masterfully poignant and hopeful. You’re right, it is time for a new song.

    We have been blessed to raise three sons to adulthood, with our youngest a freshman at WCU in the mountains of NC, our middle son, a senior at UNC Carolina and our oldest a graduate of NC State University and recent resident of Brooklyn NYC. I have been in many classrooms volunteering during their school-lage years and feel a deep affinity for teachers and students.

    I will sing a new song. We can and must do better !

    In light and in peace, DeeDub

  63. 237 jacquelineoboomer
    December 15, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    Saturday Night Live started with a children’s choir, singing Silent Night.

  64. December 15, 2012 at 11:32 pm

  65. 243 dudette9t9
    December 15, 2012 at 11:38 pm

    Yes, it’s hard, but we can make big change!

  66. 244 Andy46
    December 15, 2012 at 11:40 pm

    CTV news(Canada) just reported here that the NRA took down their Facebook page and close their twitter account because they were being flooded with criticism. Sorry I am not on twitter so I don’t know if this is true.

    • 245 Rain
      December 15, 2012 at 11:52 pm

      I searched them on Facebook and their page came up in listings but when you click on it, it redirected to an informational page about them that doesnt look like their actual page. Not sure what that means exactly, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they did yank the pages.

      • December 15, 2012 at 11:58 pm

        Multiple tweets throughout the past 12 hours or so that they had disabled their FB page.

        • 247 Andy46
          December 16, 2012 at 12:27 am

          Thanks Bobfr, when I heard this on the news I thought of you and all the TODwarriors here and all your hard work…IMO one small victory at a time. I got the impression from the news report that the NRA are locked in a PR nightmare and have no response for this not this time. The World is looking.

    • 248 Joy
      December 16, 2012 at 12:10 am

      Very happy to hear that they can’t handle the amount of tweets and facebook comments. I’m sure the majority are sending dagger comments their way. This will be the first step to running these assholes into the ground and changing gun laws.

    • 249 jacquelineoboomer
      December 16, 2012 at 12:22 am

      If it’s true for both the NRA’s FB page and Twitter account, and because I wish to retain some of my optimism, maybe it’s a small indicator. It would be quite nice to see Grover Norquist’s influence over the Republicans in Congress and, at the same time, the NRA’s purchase of their souls, both meet the same fate, because of the horrible consequences they have brought to our country.

  67. 250 Joy
    December 15, 2012 at 11:50 pm

    I find this break-down very sad. If this isn’t proof enough that American citizens are carrying far too many guns, then I don’t know what. Please read the 5th column ‘average firearms per 100 people’

    And then this…. deaths due to firearms…

    There is no doubt something has to change on gun ownership!

  68. 251 hopefruit2
    December 15, 2012 at 11:57 pm

    • 252 hopefruit2
      December 16, 2012 at 12:04 am

      • 253 FiredUpInCA
        December 16, 2012 at 2:01 am

        You would think the Party of No would understand the President when he said there would be no deal until Congress let the Bush tax cuts expire on every dollar over $250,000.

        He campaigned on it for a year. Then he won re-election with a mandate to do so.

        GOP do please try to keep up.

  69. December 16, 2012 at 12:01 am

  70. 258 Joy
    December 16, 2012 at 12:24 am

    According to the timeline, CNN has reported that the shooting took place in around 2 mins. The bulk of the shooting was over within 2 mins. That is how fast these guns can kill 26 people by just one person.

  71. 262 dotster3
    December 16, 2012 at 12:31 am

    Look at this beautiful little girl, one of the victims, singing beautifully with her adorable brother—–their dad is a jazz musician


  72. December 16, 2012 at 1:42 am


    Yes We Must

  73. 267 desertflower
    December 16, 2012 at 1:59 am


    The American Right is fond of putting itself inside the minds of America’s Founders and intuiting what was their “original intent” in writing the U.S. Constitution and its early additions, like the Second Amendment’s “right to bear arms.” But, surely, James Madison and the others weren’t envisioning people with modern weapons mowing down children in a movie theater or a shopping mall or now a kindergarten.

    Indeed, when the Second Amendment was passed in the First Congress as part of the Bill of Rights, firearms were single-shot mechanisms that took time to load and reload. It was also clear that Madison and the others viewed the “right to bear arms” in the context of “a well-regulated militia” to defend communities from massacres, not as a means to enable such massacres.

    The Second Amendment reads: “A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” Thus, the point of the Second Amendment is to ensure “security,” not undermine it.

    The massacre of 20 children in Newtown, Connecticut, on Friday, which followed other gun massacres in towns and cities across the country, represents the opposite of “security.” And it is time that Americans of all political persuasions recognize that protecting this kind of mass killing was not what the Founders had in mind.

  74. December 16, 2012 at 2:10 am

    Double standard, much?

  75. December 16, 2012 at 2:16 am

  76. 279 Rain
    December 16, 2012 at 2:51 am

    Almost 3am here, goodnight my friends.

  77. 280 desertflower
    December 16, 2012 at 2:56 am


    sidestep the entire gun control controversy and instead pass state laws that require anyone who owns a gun to carry insurance. If they have risk factors (like teenagers in the house), their rates go up. If one of their kids sneaks a gun out of the house and gets caught, or uses it to commit a crime, the insurance gets canceled for some meaningful period of time — say, 10 years.

    And if someone steals your gun and you don’t report it in a 24-hour window of you finding out, your insurance is suspended for a long time.

    If you have a rifle and it’s only used for hunting, low rates. If you have a Glock and you carry it in an open-carry town or state, your rates will be very high — because odds are so much higher that innocent bystanders may get caught in a shootout.

    The more training and safety classes you take, the cheaper the premium.

    If you’ve ever been convicted of domestic abuse or are the target of a protection order, you are not eligible for insurance.

    Homeowners could be required to carry gun insurance as long as they’re still paying on a mortgage, because a gun accident or misuse could result in a large legal judgment against the house.

    Oh yeah, and you have to buy coverage for each gun you own.


    • December 16, 2012 at 3:18 am

      Sounds like a simple straightforward commonsense plan. It’s been said many times, gun ownership should be as regulated as owning a car.

    • 282 amk for obama
      December 16, 2012 at 3:42 am

      Also. Too. Tax them guns and the ammos to hell. Make it financially a non-viable concept for many buyers. Heck, aren’t cigarettes taxed heavily to discourage their use?

    • 283 99ts
      December 16, 2012 at 3:42 am

      df – I’d like to thank you and Bobfr for being so proactive with ideas to stop the killing – it will be a long road – but for too long it has gone in the “too hard” basket. As an outsider I can do little other than add a few ideas – and I know Australia has a much smaller population – but we did get rid of the guns. I think all the ideas from you and Bob have been good – it is going to be a grass roots effort – but everyone knows how that works with 2 amazing election campaigns. If this was Bush time – no-one would even consider trying. The world loves PBO.

      Reality hit Australia when the man who lost his 2 children (I think aged 6 & 3) to a gunman refused to back down from fighting the guns. I think you will find the parents of the children who died yesterday will not give up the fight as easily as others have done in the past. They will need the will to keep living & perhaps this will come from being focused on saving other children.

      My thoughts are – fight to get rid of the automatic/semi automatic weapons – they HAVE to go; make it compulsory to buy guns in person – provide ID – get checked and have all guns registered; allow NO advertising – print or other media – NONE. Treat guns like tobacco – maybe legal – but also lethal, Allow people to sue gun owners, gun makers. Repeal the 2nd amendment.

      Long, long path – but if it will save the children, grandchildren – or even my great grandchildren – worth it.

      Bless you all – for coming together in this wonderful place.

      • 284 susanne
        December 16, 2012 at 4:00 am

        second. bobfr and amk are energetically, strategically, and determinedly condensing our complex musings into scintillating tweets that hit the target audience, are retweeted and repeated, and ultimately become common wisdom within the broader conversation. their work is epic and awesome and we are grateful.

  78. 285 desertflower
    December 16, 2012 at 3:12 am

    Change.org has a petition to sign that asks Ron Barber to address gun issues in Congress. He has special interest in this, since he was shot at Gabby Giffords town hall in Tucson. Please go to Change.org and sign this petition.

  79. 286 susanne
    December 16, 2012 at 4:13 am

    looks like the rethugs are shying away from the sunday shows. do they actually think their cowardice is not noticed?

    Guest lineups for the Sunday TV news shows:

    ABC’s “This Week” — Gov. Dannel Malloy, D-Conn.; Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn.; Reps. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, and Donna Edwards, D-Md.; Mayor Pedro Segarra of Hartford, Conn.


    NBC’s “Meet the Press” — Malloy; Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.; New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg; Randi Weingarten, president, American Federation of Teachers.


    CBS’ “Face the Nation” — Malloy; Connecticut state police Lt. Paul Vance; Sens. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., and Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas.


    CNN’s “State of the Union” — Live coverage of the Connecticut school shooting story; Gov. John Hickenlooper, Colo.; Andrew Solomon, author, “Noonday Dreamer: An Atlas of Depression”; Malloy; Blumenthal; Murphy; Stephen Barton, Aurora, Colo. shooting victim.


    “Fox News Sunday” — Sens. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and Joe Lieberman, I-Conn.; Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas.

    • 287 99ts
      December 16, 2012 at 5:52 am

      So no-one in the GOP wants to explain why the second amendment is more important than a child’s right to life. I wonder where all those “pro-life” people are in this discussion. They are such cowards – they will not change the law, but refuse to discuss what sadness that refusal causes every single week.

      • December 16, 2012 at 6:50 am

        And Michael Bloomberg will not mention the NRA, he never does. But, he immediately gies after the President without declaring exactly what he should do, just that he should do something.
        It’s an easy target his advisers have told him, anytime a shooting happens get on tv, Blame POTUS don’t be specific. Check.
        He is an asshole.
        He should go after the NRA, the Republicans in Congress, name some People in Congress who should lead, tell us exactly what bill should be proposed and what Bloomberg can do about it.
        Everything else is a personal vendetta against the President. And it shows.

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