Rise and Shine

President Barack Obama talks with Natoma Canfield, right, and her sister, Connie Anderson, in the Oval Office, Dec. 12. The letter Canfield sent the President in 2010 hangs on the wall in the background. (Photo by Pete Souza)

Politico: The Ohio woman whose name become a rallying cry for President Obama in his fight for health care reform finally came to the White House on Wednesday to see a letter that she wrote, framed and placed on a West Wing wall outside the Oval Office. Natoma Canfield wrote to Obama in 2010 about her battle with cancer and how she could no longer afford to pay insurance premiums. He cited her letter as one of his inspirations while pushing for health care reform, called her after the Supreme Court upheld the law and met her for the first time in July this year. Obama promised at that meeting that Canfield, at right above, could come to the White House and see the letter.



7:40: President Obama delivers remarks at the Hanukkah Reception at the White House, First Lady Michelle Obama attends


ABC: Barack Obama holds a substantial advantage over John Boehner in handling budget negotiations to avoid the fiscal cliff: Nearly twice as many Americans in a new ABC News/Washington Post poll approve of the president’s work on the issue so far as favor the speaker’s approach.

More here



Jonathan Bernstein: In the “elections have consequences” department, add today’s announcement by the Federal Reserve that it will not only tolerate somewhat more inflation, but will do so until unemployment drops below 6.5 percent. It’s a decision that pushes the Fed more and more in the direction of liberal economists who have supported monetary policy designed to encourage economic growth, not fight inflation.

….. the decision is a consequence of an election, but not the one we just had — it’s a consequence of the November 2008 election, which allowed Obama to appoint and a Democratic Senate to confirm members of the Fed Board of Governors; he’s now appointed six of seven, all of whom voted for today’s policy.

More here




Greg Sargent: Republicans have long derided Elizabeth Warren for describing herself as an intellectual godmother of Occupy Wall Street. Now the intellectual godmother of Occupy Wall Street will occupy the Senate committee that oversees it.

The Senate Democratic leadership is announcing that Warren will be given a seat on the Senate Banking Committee. As Forbes put it recently, Warren’s ascent to the Senate alone was “Wall Street’s worst nightmare.” This could make that nightmare a good deal worse.

More here





Washington Post: Military officials on Wednesday spilled details of the elaborate plans for President Obama’s second inauguration, rolling out a gym-size map to show how an army of National Guard members and active-duty personnel will contribute to the event’s pomp and manage its backstage nitty-gritty.

Strolling the 40-by-60-foot floor map with what he quipped were “God-like powers,” Air Force Senior Master Sgt. Scott Hinds demonstrated how units will be deployed from staging areas to various command posts along the Mall and the Pennsylvania Avenue parade route.

More here


This is one of Yahoo’s viral photos of the year – cracks me up every time:


Morning everyone 😉

243 Responses to “Rise and Shine”

  1. 1 desertflower
    December 13, 2012 at 8:24 am


  2. 20 xtine
    December 13, 2012 at 8:29 am

    Good morning!

  3. December 13, 2012 at 8:29 am

    Happy Day to Ms Chips and the TOD family. On holiday from today, and, in the spirit of Christmas I am about to get serious in the kitchen by making pastelles and black cake.

  4. 33 hopefruit2
    December 13, 2012 at 8:35 am

    G’morning Chips, TOD, lurkers, everyone. Happy Thursday all!

  5. December 13, 2012 at 8:38 am

    Oh my! Just finished pricking tears from all the tributes to Sue. R.I.P.

  6. 36 hopefruit2
    December 13, 2012 at 8:40 am

    Some good economic news!!

  7. 37 hopefruit2
    December 13, 2012 at 8:43 am

    Hmm…Gas prices have been falling since the election. Kinda knew they were being manipulated.

  8. 38 dotster3
    December 13, 2012 at 8:44 am

    Holiday hairstyle idea! 🙂

  9. 40 hopefruit2
    December 13, 2012 at 8:45 am

    Okay then…LOLZ! 🙂

    • December 13, 2012 at 8:49 am

      I just need a retweet from Wayne Rooney, Hopefruit, and then it’s champagne time!

      • 42 utaustinliberal
        December 13, 2012 at 8:53 am

        Guess what I found out yesterday Chiparoo? Brian Ray who plays guitar for Paul McCartney follows me on Twitter. I let out a yell so loud it broke the sound barrier. 😀

        • 43 hopefruit2
          December 13, 2012 at 9:03 am

          Damn NerdyWonka – it’s just a matter of time before the man himself follows you! Congratulations 🙂 🙂

        • December 13, 2012 at 9:06 am

          Wooooooooooot!!!!! But I can top that UT – I’ve just been followed by Santa Claus 😕

          • 45 Japa21
            December 13, 2012 at 9:17 am

            He needs to keep an eye on you to see if he can take you off the naughty list.

          • 47 utaustinliberal
            December 13, 2012 at 9:48 am

            Guuuuuurl….it’s only a hop, skip, and a jump before the Pope follows you. 😀

            p.s. I just watched the video you made for Sue and you may be a lapsed Catholic Chiparoo, but there is a special place in heaven for you. You’re a beautiful soul. Thank you so much for that video. I’ll be smiling today when I think of Sue and when Pres. Obama’s inauguration rolls around, I’ll be wearing an extra special grin in honor of Sue.

            • December 13, 2012 at 10:02 am

              Yes, I agree that there’s a special place in heaven for Chips. Her soul came shining right through to me with the video for Sue . . . that she made those kinds of connections around a life, around our shared lives here, around the end of life, and the new life being created now . . . . “Oh, happy day” yes, just so. awesome.

            • 49 hopefruit2
              December 13, 2012 at 10:05 am

              Is pontifex really the pope?!? I saw yesterday that he’s following 7 versions of himself. As you tweeted, a major egomaniac, His Holiness. 🙂

              • December 13, 2012 at 10:10 am

                It’s him alright Hopefruit. I notice he’s not following God on Twitter, which is kind of odd 😕

                • 51 hopefruit2
                  December 13, 2012 at 10:15 am

                  I would imagine that God is not too happy with all of this. God said that “you shall follow on Twitter no other God but me, because I the lord your God am a jealous God!” Pontifex of all people should be very familiar with this commandment.

      • 52 hopefruit2
        December 13, 2012 at 9:00 am

        🙂 🙂

  10. December 13, 2012 at 8:49 am

    Goooood morning! Now we are really closer to Friday! :-).

  11. 60 utaustinliberal
    December 13, 2012 at 8:50 am

    In awesome news this morning.

    • 61 hopefruit2
      December 13, 2012 at 9:01 am

      Will this be front-paged with the screaming headlines it deserves? Or will it be buried under some other poutrage nonsense?

      • December 13, 2012 at 9:23 am

        Obama is taking away my pot, headlines.
        Btw- Pot is a gateway drug, leads to more heavy drugs, any addict will tell you that.

        • 63 utaustinliberal
          December 13, 2012 at 9:54 am

          It hasn’t been scientifically proven that pot is a gateway drug. I know people who are occasional and frequent Mary Jane users and it hasn’t lead to heavier substances. Pot does not lead you down the road to heavier substances because drugs affect people in different ways. If one has an addictive personality then yes you can transition from pot to cocaine, heroin, etc. It has to do with the chemical and neurological make-up of the individual.

          Making generalizations about anything however, has always been proven to be wrong.

        • 64 nabsentia23
          December 13, 2012 at 11:25 am

          Actually, scientific research is showing that alcohol, not marijuana, is more of a gateway drug. And marijuana doesn’t deserve to be classified in the same category as heroin, cocaine or even prescription drugs. This is why you don’t hear that many people saying that all drugs should be legalized. When it comes to heroin and cocaine, many will contend that new strategies need to be undertaken to deal with them, but most don’t advocate legalization of these drugs.

          Also, alcohol is more addictive and dangerous than pot. Alcohol kills at least 100,000 people a year. Pot hasn’t killed a single person. However, alcohol is legal for a very good reason. Attempts at prohibiting it were a dismal failure. Prohibition of pot is also a dismal failure, however, its prohibition lasted a lot longer than alcohol’s because its negative impact isn’t as blatant. With alcohol’s prohibition, we got organized crime and enormous levels of mob violence. With weed, we still have organized crime, but most of the people arrested for pot are consumers (not sellers). Consumers aren’t even targeted for prosecution most of the time. Consumers ended getting arrested because they are suspected of other crimes and the authorities uncover pot possesion or to get to the dealers. So, for 70 years, consumers (and a few small-time dealers) quietly go to jail. This is a huge contrast to what happened with alcohol’s prohibition (which was way more disruptive in a much shorter time-span). Pot prohibition’s disruption to society is just now being felt. And when the government can’t come up with good reasons to keep it prohibited and rely on the “gateway” theory which is being disproven by researchers, something has to give.

          I strongly suggest you watch Ken Burns’ “Prohibition” documentary and then watch another documentary called “Breaking the Taboo.” Both of these demonstrate how the current drug war is a failure. “Prohibition” does this in an indirect way by describing a moment in American History that we still haven’t learned from. “Breaking the Taboo” demonstrates how international leaders are beginning to re-examine the current drug policy (especially in Latin America – who had experienced the blunt of the failed drug war – countries in this region are sick and tired of their political leaders being either bribed or killed).

          Besides, Obama, when he was Cartegena, Colombia said that he was open to the idea of decriminalizing pot. Legalization is the ultimate goal, but decriminalization is a very important initial step. He said this while Latin American leaders at the same conference overwhelmingly vote for a major re-examination of their current drug policies. Also, the anti-pot sentiment in DC is heavily entrenched, but the tide is turning. It’s not a question of if pot will be legal, it’s a question of when…And when pot prohibition does end, it will go the away alcohol prohibition did – states will stop participating. We already have 18 states that have legalized medical marijuana and two states that just legalized it for recreational use, too. States are under no obligation to have their own laws prohibiting pot or to even enforce those laws. If the Feds want to keep pot illegal, they will have to enforce those laws themselves and let me tell you that this will be difficult. The Feds just don’t have the time or resources to increase enforcement.

          The idea of prohibiting something is to protect people from any harm that “something” can cause. However, when you have a situation where the prohibition is more damaging and harmful than what’s actually being prohibited, something is seriously wrong. That’s where we are with pot. The prohibition of it is more harmful than the drug itself. The drug itself doesn’t kill you and although you still have to use some level of care with it, it’s not as physically destructive of so many other drugs. With prohibition (if in the rare chance you are caught) – you could face jail time, fines, and a permanent blemish on your record. This blemish can prevent you from getting a job and living a productive life. If pot was so harmful, putting an offender through this may be worthwhile. It’s better to be safe than sorry. However, this is just not the case and more and more people are begining to see that.

  12. 65 amk for obama
    December 13, 2012 at 8:51 am

    It’s a decision that pushes the Fed more and more in the direction of liberal economists who have supported monetary policy designed to encourage economic growth

    but, but… robert reich was whining on twitter today that it would fail.

    • 66 jackiegrumbacher
      December 13, 2012 at 9:18 am

      Amk, Robert Reich has perfected whining into an art form. Can’t remember when he has whined about something that wasn’t done to his satisfaction.

  13. 68 amk for obama
    December 13, 2012 at 8:56 am

  14. December 13, 2012 at 9:01 am

    Rachel Maddow shows how Republican legislatures have manipulated state voting districts to ensure disproportionate Republican election victories with the potential to secure a White House win.


    • 70 cos
      December 13, 2012 at 9:09 am

      GM Chips and everyone. while watching Rachel last night, it sent chills up my spine knowing how much control the repugs have in blue and red states. While everyone concentrates on the Nat’l level, they are quietly taking over the blue state legislatures. The only thing I could think of, was how Dems sat at home in 2010, because they were upset at PBO because he had not done everything that they wanted. We are suffering the consequences now and for years to come.

      • 71 Nena20409
        December 13, 2012 at 10:20 am

        It happened because the 50 state strategy was abandoned. Tim Kaine was not a good DNC Chair. The year, 2010 was known. That was not a year to be cute due to census population count and the Jan 21, 2010 SCOTUS ruling on Citizen United. I wrote the WH, called screamed even cried pleading and begging for them to pay attention. I failed, woefully.

        Today, PA, WI, OH, IN, MI, all have GOP controlled houses, plus govs. NJ…..look at what Christie is doing there too with Dems’ help. NY, Coumo is dumping Dems and using TBGOPers to hold control over Dems.

        When Dems start understanding that Power is about winning and setting your agenda….NOT compromising First. That is why when TBGOPers grab power, they USE it and they force the public to accept their nonsense. NJ giving Christie a 72% approval drives me bunkers.

        • December 13, 2012 at 12:20 pm

          It happened because Democrats didn’t vote and Independents were swayed by the Tea Party’s screeching. Let’s not kid ourselves, the anger over the bailouts went far deeper and was more easily sustained and morphed into anger about other things than anyone anticipated. The other reason is that when Dems are angry, they don’t vote and when Reps are angry they do vote. It’s as simple as that. And Rachel Maddow and others at MSNBC, were a large part of promoting that anger and the not voting.

          • 73 nathkatun7
            December 13, 2012 at 2:10 pm

            Exactly, TienLe! You cannot urge Democrats not to vote and then expect Democrats to win. In my humble opinion, the Democratic losses in 2010 had nothing to do with the DNC chair or the White House.

            • 74 Left-Indie
              December 13, 2012 at 3:00 pm

              Nena, you didn’t fail, they failed. You did your part. I was saying then that Kaine was a drip. He never seemed like he had the fire in him. Even now, I think he was largely lifted by Obama. I voted for him and still feel this way. Thing about blaming Rachel or Ed is bogus, or even the fat boy from Flint. Dem voters are not that slavish to any media like Fox’s audience. What they’re prone to is going to sleep until somebody exciting comes along to wake them up. The party has always known that we’ve had problem with midterms, but because it was a census year, you would think they would operate like a major campaign was underway. Many people like Nena were screaming that they take this seriously, but the dem establishment slept. So now we’ve the craziest bunch of motherfuckers in the bluest of states and gerrymandered districts for 10 more years!

              • 75 Eleroy
                December 13, 2012 at 3:46 pm

                Bullocks!!! The non-stop demoralizing rhetoric and denigration of the President by every progressive/PL voice went a long way in negatively impacting and depressing traditional Dem voters!!!

                They were constantly being told their President was “weak”, “caved”, “gave away everything”, “had no clue”, was “no better than a Republican”, “did not close Guantanamo Bay”, “was killing innocent terrorists with drones”, “did not put on his walking shoes to picket Scott Walker in Wisconsin” and on, and on!!!

                Michael Moore, Ed and the rest very specifically told Dems to stay home to “teach President Obama a lesson”. They told them that the President was “not worthy of their support or vote since he had failed them” by not magically fixing everything that ailed America while vacuuming peoples homes, doing their grocery shopping and personally tutoring their kids in algebra!!!

                Factor in a largely unsupportive Dem delegation many still brimming over with envy and resentment and too busy trying to one-up President and Mrs Obama, and the fiasco of 2010 can be placed squarely at the feet of the rowdy PL armchair quarterbacks and their self-promoting progressive friends in congress!!!

                To pretend that this was again the fault of the White House or the Obama campaign for not “taking this seriously” is complete nonsense!!!

      • 76 prettyfoot58
        December 13, 2012 at 10:31 am


        i got those same chills and fears…cos…

        AlEC..makes cookie cutter laws about voting..womens’ rights…gun laws….workers rights…

        talk about the long game…these conservative groups definitely have a long plan…to dismantle and destroy our rights and since the Federal Gov has become our last defense…and now they have a plan to impact that…

        What is our plan…What do we do….the most organized group on our side are the Trade Unions…and we see the relentless attack that is being waged on them…and that attack impacts us all whether we are in a union or not…

        so i ask again…What do we do..We need real think tanks…. we need a long range plan…

        2014 is the the next elcetion cycle and then 2016…i know that PBO has just won re-election but there is no time to bask in the glow…because the forces against cntinue to delegitimze our voice and our votes.. will continue their onslaught against democracy…

        we must have a plan…we must save our unions…


        • 77 Nena20409
          December 13, 2012 at 10:43 am

          NC was slowing moving away from red to purplish—blue. Then KOCH and co came in with desegregation and busing.

  15. December 13, 2012 at 9:04 am

    Maddow talks about voting and the attention it is getting from Attorney General Holder.


  16. 79 kathryn kivett
    December 13, 2012 at 9:05 am

    Good Morning all….a beautiful tribute to a cherished member of TOD by all of you who are filled with so much compassion…which leads me to watching 12 12 12 last night while reading your caring words…….I felt I was watching a benefit filled with Obama supporters with COMPASSION being the operable word….and it suddenly dawned on me that the difference between Democrat leaning and Republican leaning is Compassion…you either have it or you don’t………It also suddenly dawned on me that Mick is 6 months younger than me and Paul is 6 months older than me and there is seriously something wrong with this picture….which leads me to…..job of the day…..run to Walgreens, buy Loving Care, get up from computer, wrap the H out of presents, vacumme ,dust, water tree, and clean carpet, while playing music from my youth…..which leads me to ponder????…..do you think being a skinny vegeterian and constant dancing is the answer to our healthcare crisis ?……and now that I have confused you with all the thoughts jumping around in my head….just wanted you to know I am in awe of all of you and in awe of aging rockers…

    • December 13, 2012 at 9:10 am

      “It also suddenly dawned on me that Mick is 6 months younger than me and Paul is 6 months older than me and there is seriously something wrong with this picture”

      😆 But you’re waaaaaay younger at heart, Kathryn!

      • 81 kathryn kivett
        December 13, 2012 at 9:17 am

        Thanks, I try….having young Grandchildren helps….off to get these old bones moving to James Taylor’s(who is just a couple of years younger than me) Christmas cd….got to start off slow and then progress to “Brown Sugar”…

  17. December 13, 2012 at 9:05 am

    Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

    in 1960, talking about UNIFORM VOTING STANDARDS.


  18. 83 hopefruit2
    December 13, 2012 at 9:16 am

    Here is a great resource for keeping up to date with your state’s most recent progress on setting up the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) Health Exchanges.


    • December 13, 2012 at 9:19 am

      Pennsylvania said no yesterday!

      • 85 hopefruit2
        December 13, 2012 at 10:10 am

        Here’s the info that came up when I selected the state of PA:

        // On December 12, 2012, Governor Tom Corbett (R) notified federal officials that Pennsylvania would default to a federally-facilitated health insurance exchange.1

        Prior to the announcement, the Pennsylvania Insurance Department had taken the lead with exchange planning. The Insurance Department, released an extensive report in November 2011 that suggested broad support for a state-run exchange.2 In January 2012, the Department released a conceptual draft for proposed legislation which would establish multiple private exchanges overseen by the Department.3 Consumer representatives expressed concern over the proposed model, citing such an approach would be inconsistent with the exchange requirements under the Affordable Care Act (ACA).4 In May 2012, the Department had begun soliciting for a subcontractor to provide guidance and consultation on exchange planning.5

        Essential Health Benefits (EHB): The ACA requires that all non-grandfathered individual and small-group plans sold in a state, including those offered through the Exchange, cover certain defined health benefits. Since Pennsylvania has not put forward a recommendation, the state’s benchmark EHB plan will default to the largest small-group plan in the state, Aetna POS. //

  19. December 13, 2012 at 9:18 am

    NBC/WSJ poll says that both sides will be to Blame, if we go over the fiscal cliff.
    Differing from all the other polls, which said that the public would Blame Republicans.
    Good old MSNBC, gotta love our Liberal media?

    • 87 anniebella
      December 13, 2012 at 9:45 am

      I saw the mouth piece for the Romney campaign Chuckie Todd and his B.S. this morning on the Today show and I turn it before he finish because I saw when their poll was trying to blame both equally. Let’s remember Todd is the one who kept telling us what a close race it was, how the Republicans were more excited to get out to vote than we were.

    • 88 hopefruit2
      December 13, 2012 at 9:48 am

      I knew it was just a matter of time before some manufactured poll “both sides” false equivalency polling garbage was released and promoted by the media.

      • 89 Lovepolitics2008
        December 13, 2012 at 11:18 am

        Yep. Since when the media has allowed President Obama and democrats to keep an advantage in the polls? They’ll work overtime to give platform to the republicans talking points and push the narrative that both sides are to blame. I really hope that President Obama and his team are prepared for this. It has happened over and over again in the past four years.

    • 90 Nena20409
      December 13, 2012 at 10:47 am

      Funny hoe WJS/NBC poll mimics the other polls, but in the Blame part?

      How come that is different form CNN, ABC/WashPost, Gallup, etc? Yep……WJS…..that is how.

  20. 91 sherijr
    December 13, 2012 at 9:19 am

    g’morning folks ~ Chips I just wanted to mention that marabout/hachiko is having her surgery this morning at 9:30am ET… so please pass on your good thoughts, vibes & prayers for her, TOD family.

  21. December 13, 2012 at 9:25 am

    Did the mainstream press blow the biggest campaign story of 2012? Chris Matthews revisits one of Hardball’s biggest stories—the radical right-wing, off-the-rails lurch of the Republican Party—and discusses with Mother Jones’ David Corn and Salon’s Joan Walsh.


  22. 103 amk for obama
    December 13, 2012 at 9:26 am

    • 108 anniebella
      December 13, 2012 at 10:03 am

      Thanks CTGirl, I just finish listening to FLOTUS on Tom Joyner. I hope POTUS can get his vacation time with his family and not have to stay in D.C. trying to deal with those crazy ass Republicans.

  23. December 13, 2012 at 9:50 am

    Good morning TOD family.

    I want to ask that everyone to say a prayer to our friend Haiko/marabout32 who is having surgery as I write this.

  24. 111 Ladyhawke
    December 13, 2012 at 10:00 am



    Faith in America’s Future

    The 2013 Inaugural Ceremonies theme, “Faith in America’s Future” commemorates the United States’ perseverance and marks the 150th anniversary of the placement of the Statue of Freedom atop the U.S. Capitol dome.





  25. 112 xtine
    December 13, 2012 at 10:04 am

    [Right on, Smartypants!]:

    To be effective in their “opposition only” approach, what the Republicans need is a media that is too ignorant, lazy, or complacent to point out this difference. If you’d like to see how that’s done, take a look at this video of Bob Woodward being interviewed on CBS This Morning (sorry embedding disabled). What you’ll see is 5 minutes of Republican spin about how both sides do it and total lies on the reality I’ve just laid out here.

    That’s what we’re facing folks. And so we can either sit back and expect President Obama to do all the work of calling that shit out. Or we can buck up and do our part – no matter how large or small – to tell the truth about what’s going on here.

    Let’s get busy!!!!!


  26. 113 Ladyhawke
    December 13, 2012 at 10:12 am

    CONSERVATIVE LOONS AND WACKOS (Taking incompetence to a whole new level.)

    Cautious negotiators or ideological victims?

    by pm carpenter


    I subscribe to Chait’s theory on the same explanatory level on which I subscribe to Ezra Klein’s maxim, as expressed a few months ago in Columbia Journalism Review: “[T]he people in charge aren’t just wrong or bought off, but … quite often, they fundamentally don’t know what they’re doing.” There looms an immense chasm between the seeming competence behind Washington’s august titles–United States Senator, United States Representative–and the reality of their embodiments. Louie Gohmert, anyone? Or Jim Inhofe? Virginia Foxx?



  27. 114 amk for obama
    December 13, 2012 at 10:16 am

  28. 115 dotster3
    December 13, 2012 at 10:17 am

  29. 124 dotster3
    December 13, 2012 at 10:29 am

  30. 125 Nena20409
    December 13, 2012 at 10:33 am

    The 1212concert last evening…..I am sure it was televised. Did anyone see it? Will it be repeated? Is there a place that I can go to see this once in a life time performance?

    I am not a fan of Kanye West…..but I had seen on CBS Morning today that Mr. West has a Leather skirt on? I had no idea that he did that. I was impressed for it was unexpected.

    • 126 jacquelineoboomer
      December 13, 2012 at 10:41 am

      I saw part of the show, that part was great, on AMC. They will probably re-air it. (I DVR’d it, so I could watch the whole thing, later.) Also saw his leather skirt, did a double take, but I liked it!

    • 127 hopefruit2
      December 13, 2012 at 10:46 am

      The concert was aired on a wide range of Cable TV networks, HBO, Encore, Hallmark, AMC, TBS, VH1, MTV, just to name a few. According to this article from HuffPo:

      // The sold-out “12-12-12” concert was being shown on 37 television stations in the United States and more than 200 others worldwide. It was to be streamed on 30 websites, including YouTube and Yahoo, and played on radio stations. Theaters, including 27 in the New York region and dozens more elsewhere, were showing it live. //

      I’m not sure whether it will be aired again, but I would hope so because I only got to see a little bit just before bed.

      • 128 Nena20409
        December 13, 2012 at 10:54 am

        I missed it. I am anguished about it. I had no idea it was televised until this morning. How I wish that I could see the DVR jacquelineoboomer taped. I really missed it. I am wishing now that that someone would replay it on one of those stations. Wow! Thanks HF2 and Jacquelineoboomer.

        • 129 hopefruit2
          December 13, 2012 at 11:26 am

          I agree – I wasn’t even aware it was going on until I started reading folks’ comments on Twitter well into the concert!

      • 130 Vicki Green
        December 13, 2012 at 12:39 pm

        I watched the whole thing and it was spectacular. This was the Democratic, Liberal, Obama agenda in living color. This concert to help Sandy’s victims articulated the vision of America that voters chose by nearly a 5,000,000 margin.
        Each singer and comedian or newscaster spoke about the joy in helping others. That we are our brothers/sisters keepers. That we take care of our own.
        The poitics were specific: Billy Crystal cited Chris Christie by saying that the Gov had ditched Mitt and political stances to help the people of his state. The cameras showed Christie and Cuomo twice and they got giant applause. A film behind Roger Daltrey singing “See me. Feel me. Touch me . Heal me”, displayed President Obama and Gov. Christie embracing storm victims.

        In stark and vivid contrast the only verbal mention of the clearly-not-welcome and absent Bloomberg: ” After 9/11 Giuliani vowed to find and punish terrorists. The curent Mayor is concerned with soda cups. ” During the remainder of the 51/2 hour marathon there were 2 shots of a tiny Bloomberg almost hidden by giant soda cups.

        And the music—-OMG—Bruce Bon Jovi Roger Waters Rolling Stones Alicia Keys Billy Joel.. And more. If it is ever re-run people try to catch it.

        This night could serve as the Obama Inauguration Concert, since we are evidently not getting that this time around.

    • 132 dotster3
      December 13, 2012 at 11:09 am

      It was super great—-6 hours of all the legends of rock. Brought the house down. Way better than a Justin Bieber concert. 🙂

  31. 133 jacquelineoboomer
    December 13, 2012 at 10:35 am

    Good morning. Still thinking about Sue. Also, I’m thinking Ms. Canfield’s story, which brought us the top photo, made our President think of his own mother’s story, when she was battling health problems and at the same time on the phone with her health insurance company. So glad he thought to host Ms. Canfield at the White House, because her story – and letter – were riveting. Thank you, Mr. President, for never forgetting about the American people, at large, and the people you meet along the way!

  32. 134 xtine
    December 13, 2012 at 10:40 am

    [Greg Sargent]:

    I spoke this morning to an official familiar with the fiscal cliff talks. He tells me that ever since Republicans rejected the first White House fiscal offer, White House negotiators have been asking Republicans to detail both the spending cuts they want and the loopholes and deductions they would close to raise revenues while avoiding a hike in tax rates for the rich.

    According to the official, Republicans continue to refuse to answer.


    There is a great deal of consternation this morning over the failure to reach a deal and what it says about the failings of our “political system.” But the main problem is not the “system,” it’s the behavior of one of the participants. It is overwhelmingly clear at this point that Republicans are the primary obstacle to any compromise. Admittedly, this is not a surprising assertion, coming from this blog. But let’s put it this way. There are three basic points about the current situation that make that conclusion inescapable. And I would ask anyone tempted to blame both sides equally whether they are wrong:

    [Points discussion continues]: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2012/12/13/the-morning-plum-dems-hold-the-middle-ground-gop-is-on-fringe/

  33. 135 utaustinliberal
    December 13, 2012 at 10:47 am

    Pres. Obama is taking his fiscal cliff plan to the public today. I think WSCV is Telemundo.

  34. 136 utaustinliberal
    December 13, 2012 at 10:51 am

    • 137 donna dem 4 obama
      December 13, 2012 at 11:23 am

      My favorite memory was standing shoulder to shoulder in a sea of humanity of Obama supporters who were thrilled beyond this world to be witnessing such a historic event. I cried tears of joy when he raised his hand and took the oath. Then as the Bush helicopter took them away from the Capitol all 2Million of us sang…Na, Na, Na, Na, Na, Na, Na, Na, Hay-Hay-Hay Good Bye 🙂

      • 138 donna dem 4 obama
        December 13, 2012 at 11:27 am

        Oh and hundreds of us dancing the electric slide in unison to keep warm on one of the coldest days evahhhh in DC!!!

      • 139 nospin
        December 13, 2012 at 2:21 pm

        I was there too Donna. lololol I remember when they they sang that but I felt so sorry for the man. hahahahahahahahahahahaha

  35. 140 0388jojothecat
    December 13, 2012 at 10:57 am

    I am glad that the inauguration is on a holiday so I can stay home and watch it.

  36. 141 Nena20409
    December 13, 2012 at 10:57 am

    I was looking at the lovely pictures Chips posted and I just noticed the little boy sneaking a smooch to another little girl……before the POTUS? Things little kids do. That is just sooooo cute. OMG!

  37. 142 4morefor44
    December 13, 2012 at 11:06 am

    from the sargent article up top…i’m getting annoyed with how the press cannot seem to talk about elizabeth warren without always describing her as some sort of enemy and “wall st’s worst nightmare.” and what’s with sargent linking her to the “occupy” nonsense?!?! she’s a pragmatist that wants progress, just as she said when she fully embraced president obama’s policies and him literally during her campaign, and the “occupy” people have nothing to do with that!

    notice how that subconsciously frames her as an “enemy.” always. yet, do we ever see wall st. bankers framed as “enemies” to the people in the mainstream media? since we all know as the economics for the average wage earners improves, the financial system in general improves too, so senator warren is not an “enemy” at all to wall st. she’s trying to help them in spite of their short term greed.

    • 143 Nena20409
      December 13, 2012 at 11:48 am

      I love it. Why? Sen-elect Warren Scares the dickens out of them. They tried to defeat her and could not. That alone empowered Ms. Warren and makes her much larger in their eyes. For she can’t be bought. That is a Great thing.

    • December 13, 2012 at 9:37 pm

      I thought that occupy remark was peculiar. That was not a recommendation to me.

  38. 145 Kathy
    December 13, 2012 at 11:13 am

    Please view the following and pass it on if you have not already done so…A must!
    See you tube video- Free Congress from the Norquist Pledge (Professor Robert Thurman’s Meme)

  39. 146 utaustinliberal
    December 13, 2012 at 11:13 am


    • 147 dotster3
      December 13, 2012 at 11:18 am

      Guess she never read the kids book “Be Nice to Spiders”—–it was big at our house. We are not afraid. We do not fear. We learned spiders are our friends. 🙂

    • 148 Japa21
      December 13, 2012 at 11:22 am

      Pretty much my wife’s view as well. However, she always hires a hit-man to do the job. Guess who?

    • 149 ber6964
      December 13, 2012 at 12:03 pm

      My son ….stands 6’3’….240 lbs………and tough, except when it comes to spiders….kills me every time I laugh so hard.

  40. 150 dotster3
    December 13, 2012 at 11:14 am

    Barbara Walters is really promoting her interview with the Obamas which airs tomorrow night—-describing it as the Obamas at their most charming, etc. Michelle gives a tour of the xmas decorated WH—–and even Bo gets a segment.

  41. 155 Dakota
    December 13, 2012 at 11:25 am

    This is way off subject, but apparently some photog took an “up skirt” shot of an underwear-less Anne Hathaway getting out of a limo. She was on the “Today” show promoting “Les Miserables” and Matt Lauer immediately says, “Well Anne, we’ve seen a lot of you lately!” What a despicable piece of human garbage he is!
    Anne handled it with dignity and class and deftly changed the subject back to the movie.

  42. 162 amk for obama
    December 13, 2012 at 11:25 am

  43. 166 xtine
    December 13, 2012 at 11:27 am

    [ISO straight jackets. Steve Benen says …]:

    Raising the debt ceiling simply means allowing the United States to pay its bills for money that’s already been spent. If GOP lawmakers want a fight that leads to less debt and smaller deficits, they should have their tantrum when spending decisions are being made, not after. President Obama and Democrats would still have an incentive to work towards a deal, since they wouldn’t like government shutdowns.

    So, why doesn’t this happen? Why don’t Republicans pick a different hostage, one in which the consequences of pulling the metaphorical trigger would be less catastrophic?

    I can’t read GOP leaders’ minds, obviously, but I suspect it has something to do with motivations — Republicans could pick a reasonable hostage, but to guarantee action, they’re targeting the hostage Democrats take more seriously. It’s the difference between a villain pointing a gun at your neighbor vs. pointing a gun at your children.

    Republican pundit Marc Thiessen, whose former boss raised the debt ceiling seven times without incident or precondition, put it this way.

    “Unlike with the fiscal cliff, Republicans have all the leverage when it comes to the debt limit. Today, Obama is perfectly willing to go over the fiscal cliff and blame the GOP for the resulting tax increases on the middle class. But when it comes to the debt limit, he does not have that luxury. He can’t default on our debt — the consequences are too catastrophic. So in the end he will cave.”

    Let’s be very clear about what Thiessen is proposing. By his reasoning, Republicans should threaten to hurt Americans. President Obama doesn’t want to see Americans hurt, ergo, he’ll “cave” to GOP demands so as to prevent Republicans from following through on their threats on forcing severe consequences on the nation on purpose.

    Let’s pause for a moment to appreciate the fact that conservative politics in 2012 has descended to a point of true madness. Marc Thiessen not only thinks this way, he has no qualms about writing it down and publishing it in one of the nation’s largest and most important newspapers.

    More here: http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/12/13/15884259-why-the-debt-ceiling-crisis-is-easy-to-avoid-and-why-it-wont-matter

    • 167 amk for obama
      December 13, 2012 at 11:30 am

      Let this be a lesson to the left. If you deign not to vote, you will be ruled by unfit people.

    • December 13, 2012 at 11:50 am

      So, this Marc Thiessen is basically saying that Republicans don’t care about America. If the analogy is a villain pointing a gun to a neighbor or your children, then in this scenario with the GOP, the villain is one of the parents of the children under threat of harm! This is why the country is in trouble, and those who can’t see how depraved the GOP have become (all the while bemoaning the loss of their “freedoms”), are party to its destruction.

  44. 169 utaustinliberal
    December 13, 2012 at 11:44 am

  45. 170 Bill R.
    December 13, 2012 at 11:45 am

    I’d say PBO is winning the message war:

  46. 171 Bill R.
    December 13, 2012 at 11:47 am

  47. 172 anniebella
    December 13, 2012 at 11:48 am

    That sorry Speaker John Boehner was on tv afew minutes ago, why is it he is constantly having his lying updates. Opening his mouth but saying nothing.

    • 173 theo67
      December 13, 2012 at 11:55 am

      Because the media lets him do it. They’re hoping that repetition of lies will create reality.

    • 174 Nena20409
      December 13, 2012 at 11:58 am

      Posturing……willful media would suck up the energy and regurgitate every syllable as news. Just as tales told by fools….MSM…full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

      As Leader Pelosi said…..Boehner should figure it out. Now is the media used the same logic with Boehner, this wicked bat poop nonsense would have been over by now.

    • December 13, 2012 at 12:12 pm

      We see the press drill Jay Carney ever day and then Boehner waltzes out with a pile of BS and they lay not a glove on the guy. HIDEOUS.

  48. 177 dotster3
    December 13, 2012 at 11:55 am

    Speaking of pervs, I just saw a Walters tease for the Obama interview—–she asks them “How do you keep the fire going?” What? Isn’t that an inappropriate question to be asking the president of the United States and First Lady???

    • 178 Nena20409
      December 13, 2012 at 12:00 pm

      Through exercise…..both of them are known to engage in rigorous and vigorous workouts. Wawa knows that. Remember originality is not her Forte.

    • 179 theo67
      December 13, 2012 at 12:01 pm

      They should have told her – plenty of well-aerated firewood and good kindling to start, and then had her try to clarify. She’s so inappropriate.

    • 181 hopefruit2
      December 13, 2012 at 12:02 pm

      Did she ask that question of W and Laura? I wonder…

      • 182 Nena20409
        December 13, 2012 at 12:32 pm

        I doubt it. Laura was a chain smoker and NONE ever asked her. She was never into exercising. GW Bush was the exercise “freak” in that relationship.

        Last night, Wawa asked SoS Clinton about her Hair. Nothing she ever asked Laura Bush or anyone else.

        • 183 hopefruit2
          December 13, 2012 at 12:38 pm

          Wasn’t Laura also a pain pill popper?

          • 184 Nena20409
            December 13, 2012 at 1:17 pm

            I don’t HF2. I haven’t heard before. But I do know that for days, she left the WH and stayed at a Hotel and the DC press protected her. Something they would never have done for Clinton, or any other Dem.

    • December 13, 2012 at 12:29 pm

      I will forgive her for that one, dotser3 :-). The fire is just too hot for mere mortals to ignore :-).

  49. 186 Eveingeorgia
    December 13, 2012 at 11:59 am

    Hello everyone.

    Just finished watching the glorious tribute to Sue from Minnesota. It was beautiful, Chips.
    It means so much to be a part of this family. Who would ever have thought that a group of strangers could become so close, so concerned for each other.

    I spent too much time this morning reading about republicans mourning their loss on November 6. The comments were so awful. There is still such hatred, such distortion, and so many wrong, ingrained attitudes concerning those of us who are different, it really hurts to know that so many people hate the president and those us who support him with such viciousness.

    I left that site feeling sad and anxious for the future. I prayed that God would help them to see how wrong their opinions are, and that President Obama’s second term would change many of their minds.

    Then I came to TOD and felt the love and the genuine concern about Sue and others who have lost loved ones, and those who are I’ll. It was like a slice of heaven. This is the way the world should be. We may fight, disagree and pout sometimes, but we come back, talk it over and move on.

    This is truly a lovely place. You have a heart of gold, Chips. God bless you and every member of our growing family.

  50. 187 xtine
    December 13, 2012 at 12:02 pm

    [Charles Pierce on “Let’s Not Talk About Hillary 2016 Just Yet”]:

    […..] We now have an entire generation of pundits whose formative political experience was the endless pursuit of Bill Clinton’s penis by various ambitious journalists, congresscritters, and interested parties of all sorts. That’s the politics that generation knows. That’s the politics they expect. I maintain that one of the reasons the current president gets so much heat for being “aloof” is that those are the politics his career has resolutely denied to them. Ginning up gotcha scandals against this guy is no fun because you look so damned ridiculous doing it.


    So when you hear the speculation about what Mrs. Clinton may or may not do four years hence, I’d advise looking at it the way you looked at the recent remake of Red Dawn— as little more than the expression of barely repressed desires by a number of people seeking to relive those golden days when the trivial was celebrated as the monumental, and when the country’s real problems could be said to fit into the pocket of a little blue dress.

    Read more: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/hillary-clinton-2016-presidential-run-121112?src=sem&mag=esq&dom=out

    • 188 xtine
      December 13, 2012 at 12:06 pm

      [Adding this from article because it made me laugh!]:

      (And, not for nothing, but did Lindsey Graham (!) really tell the president to “man up” yesterday? I don’t know what’s more surprising, that Huckleberry Closetcase used that phrase, or that he manifestly knows so little about Greece.)

      • 189 theo67
        December 13, 2012 at 12:20 pm

        I chuckled when I saw that clip of Lindsey Graham telling President Obama to “man up”. Seemed very ironic… Particularly since Graham is McCain’s lapdog.

        • December 13, 2012 at 12:25 pm

          Now I can’t get this out of my head “Maureen Dowd famously ejaculated…” Brain bleach please! 🙂

          • 191 theo67
            December 13, 2012 at 12:35 pm

            You have to read the comments – they’re even more hilarious than the article! I liked this one:

            ‘The “reasons the current president gets so much heat for being ‘aloof'” stuff…. I think you’re getting to the heart of it. The complainers want a President like Clinton who would let them share their half-cocked thoughts about the issues of the day while reacting as if their opinions were deep, insightful, meaningful. Obama prefers to have dinner with his family, but when he must go to events where he rubs shoulders with the political and media elite he appears more apt to want to talk to them about vacations or golf. Things they actually know about, as opposed to things they think they know about.

            You don’t want to be accused of being aloof? Then your social life as President involves lots of cocktail parties and meet-and-greets with conversation that goes something like this… “Wow… you know how to solve the Israel-Palestine conflict, turn Iran and Cuba into progressive democracies and disarm North Korea, and it’s all so obvious, you say? Please, I can’t think of anything better to do as President of the United States than listen to you, and I can’t wait to get back to the Oval Office to implement your brilliant ideas.”‘

          • 194 xtine
            December 13, 2012 at 12:40 pm

            CTGirl, he certainly has a way, ahem, with words! 🙂

    • 196 theo67
      December 13, 2012 at 12:18 pm

      Democrats have such a deep bench of talent (Governors Deval Patrick and Martin O’Malley, Kirsten Gillibrand, etc.) – and many more than we even know of at this point. Four years is a long time – just ask President Obama, who went from speaking at the Dem convention in 2004, to becoming President in 2008! It seems a shame to destroy the bench so early in the game, by putting all your eggs in a basket that doesn’t even exist (since Hillary herself has said she’s not running). It will diminish every candidate and deem them a “second choice” before they’ve even begun.

      The opposition so far is: Chris Christie – highly unlikable right wing bully, Jeb Bush – denier of his brother’s legacy of failure and war crimes in violation of international & governor who signed “stand your ground” law into place, Bobby Jindal – he of the disastrous SOTU response and right wing lapdog with a pretty bad record as governor, Nikki Haley – right wing loon who fashions herself after Sarah Palin, speaking of which – possibly even Sarah Palin herself – and a whole host of right wing governor’s who will likely come out of the woodwork because the Obama machine will have been put away (so they think).

      • 197 hopefruit2
        December 13, 2012 at 12:22 pm

        “It seems a shame to destroy the bench so early in the game, by putting all your eggs in a basket that doesn’t even exist (since Hillary herself has said she’s not running). It will diminish every candidate and deem them a “second choice” before they’ve even begun.”

        And that is EXACTLY the agenda of the MSM and GOP – to diminish DEM enthusiasm for the eventual candidate who will NOT be Hillary.

      • December 13, 2012 at 12:23 pm

        And don’t forget shady wonderboy Marco Rubio.

      • 202 daisydem
        December 13, 2012 at 12:32 pm

        Julian Castro, Elizabeth Warren (yes, I know she just began a senate tenure, but she is there), maybe even Crist (not necessarily for President, but V.P. – look at the job Joe Biden has done; maybe Crist being a centrist could also make a good V.P.), we have quite a few! It feels good, yes?

        • 203 theo67
          December 13, 2012 at 12:39 pm

          I think Julian has potential, but he does seem a little green still. As for Elizabeth, I almost think she’ll be more useful in the Senate than trying to play high politics as President. And Crist – I still think he’s going to be a blue dog democrat. I can’t get excited about him – particularly since, after Democrats threw Rep. Meek under the bus in favor of Crist in 2010, Crist still refused to commit to caucus with Democrats. I think Crist will show his true colors in no time – but I hope I’ll be proven wrong.

          But, after throwing cold water on your post (sorry! 🙂 ), I do agree that it feels great to have so many really good candidates for so many levels of government. The GOP have a 40 year advantage, and Democrats have to start filling up posts all the way up and down the power ladder, so that the GOP don’t get away with passing laws like the “right to work” garbage, or defining the text books that kids use for learning, or determining what laws get passed or upheld locally.

        • December 13, 2012 at 12:56 pm

          I’m glad Crist recognized the rot in his party and had the courage to do something about it, but he will never leapfrog ahead of true blue Dems for VP. Too many other younger bright lights ahead of him: Deval Patrick, Kamala Harris, etc.

      • 205 nathkatun7
        December 13, 2012 at 6:34 pm

        My number one choice for 2016 is Vice-President Biden. I don’t know why people are leaving him out of the picture.

        • 206 theo67
          December 13, 2012 at 6:36 pm

          My apologies – I think the entire party should rally behind VP Biden, if he chooses to run. He’s earned that right, and he’s so honourably served President Obama. His loyalty has been a joy to behold. And, he’s certainly qualified – a wealth of experience, a deep love of country, and a full heart. If he chooses to run, he would be my first choice, too.

    • 207 Eleroy
      December 13, 2012 at 4:45 pm

      Yes please, let’s not!!! And not just yet, but ever!!!

  51. 208 xtine
    December 13, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    [Over @ Bos Cesca}:

    [….] “Whatever House Republicans might think, the White House is all steel when it comes to the debt ceiling. Their position is simple, and it’s typically delivered in the tone of voice that Bruce Willis reserves for talking to terrorists: They’re happy to raise the debt ceiling on their own, as would be the case under their proposal to take authority for the debt ceiling away from Congress. But if Congress rejects that offer, then the debt ceiling is Congress’s problem, and the White House will not help. […]

    “They’re almost religious about this: They believe they owe it to future generations to break the back of the idea that minority parties can and should play Russian roulette with the economy.” […]


    • December 13, 2012 at 12:49 pm

      Also, from the same article by Ezra Klein that Bob Cesca quoted:

      “The Obama administration is utterly steadfast on this point: They will not suffer a repeat of 2011, when they conducted negotiations over whether the United States should default. If Republicans go over the cliff and try to open up talks for raising the debt ceiling, the White House will not hold a meeting, they will not return a phone call, they will not look at the e-mails. They will move to an entirely public strategy, rallying voters and the business community against the GOP’s repeated brinksmanship.”


      • 210 theo67
        December 13, 2012 at 12:55 pm

        I can’t wait for this. The White House will not negotiate with terrorists, especially when it comes to paying the bills that they themselves incurred with their wars, tax cuts and unpaid prescription program (that did little to help seniors). Let the GOP negotiate with themselves about destroying the full faith and credit of the US.

  52. December 13, 2012 at 12:41 pm

  53. 217 xtine
    December 13, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    [Poynter’s “The best (and worst) media errors and corrections of 2012.” CNN’s “Mandate Struck Down” topped the list, here are a couple fun ones]:

    The Globe And Mail:
    François Mitterrand, the former French president, is reported to have said that Margaret Thatcher had the mouth of Marilyn Monroe and the eyes of Caligula — not Stalin, as reported in an earlier version of this article.

    The Atlantic:
    This post originally referred to Jennifer Grey as “Ferris Bueller’s sister.” As commenters have pointed out, her role alongside Swayze in Dirty Dancing is clearly the more relevant. We regret putting Baby in a corner.


    Lots more here: http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/regret-the-error/197279/the-best-and-worst-media-errors-and-corrections-of-2012/

  54. 218 kathryn kivett
    December 13, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    Hey, taking a break and just ordered 3 Michelle Obama kitchen garden books for Christmas gifts….Amazon $l9.71…just thought I would give y’all a heads up for a great gift idea….;^)

  55. 221 Bill R.
    December 13, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    Truly hoping Joy Reid gets her own program:

    • 223 yardarm756
      December 13, 2012 at 1:10 pm

      I think she will. This was how they broke in Ed Schultz, Alex Wagner, Rev Al, and Mellisa Harris-Perry and others. Joy is more hard news and journalism than view point and emotionalism. By the way, Gooc after noon everyone. I love ya’ll!

      • 224 57andfemale
        December 13, 2012 at 2:45 pm

        Joy Ann Reid’s problem: she won’t tow the company line. Alex Wagner, when she’s on Bill Maher, is an articulate progressive. You certainly wouldn’t know that from her show. I would assume Joy Ann Reid would not alllow the brass to tell her how to run her show.

    • 226 xtine
      December 13, 2012 at 1:16 pm

      I hope she does get her own show. I sometimes watch these uggh shows because she’s on & I enjoy her take. As soon as her panel is done, I switch stations, anything!

    • 227 jacquelineoboomer
      December 13, 2012 at 2:07 pm

      Great. Joy is all facts and truth and class, and sometimes she looks at the others on a panel as though she just wants to interrupt and tell them how it really is! Love that. Go, Joy!

      • 228 Vicki Green
        December 13, 2012 at 3:23 pm

        Completely agree. Joy is an adult. Supersmart and fact-based. Also very pleasant easy to watch.

        • 229 jacquelineoboomer
          December 13, 2012 at 3:25 pm

          Fingers crossed that she gets her own show. Maybe she could replace one of Tweety’s hours, since we long ago started overdosing on his spitting, otherworldly rants!

        • 230 Eleroy
          December 13, 2012 at 5:01 pm

          I hope she doesn’t get contaminated!!! She is powerful as a clearheaded, articulate pundit!!! She does her homework!!!

          But once they give you these shows, they all but gag you and suddenly you are a shadow of yourself!!!

  56. December 13, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    Senate fails to advance bill extending banks’ transaction account guarantee

    By Ramsey Cox
    The Senate failed to advanced a bill that would extend a guarantee program for certain bank accounts benefiting small businesses.

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) introduced S. 3637, a bill extending the Transaction Account Guarantee (TAG) program through 2014.

    But Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) raised a budget point of order against Reid’s bill, saying it violated the Budget Control Act by authorizing additional funds. Democrats failed to waive the budget point of order on a 50-42 vote — 60 votes were needed.

    If we don’t get a new deal, their will not be any new spending unless we get 60 votes? Wow!

    • 232 theo67
      December 13, 2012 at 1:24 pm

      And there are so many small businesses that think the GOP are looking out for them – I kept hearing that during the campaign. They are so worried about their taxes going up, even though the Bush tax cuts will impact only 3% of small businesses. And they ignore the 18 different tax cuts that have already been passed to support small businesses, plus the fact that the Small Business Administration is now part of the President’s Cabinet. Then, when the GOP refuse to fund support for small businesses, the same complainers are silent.

  57. 233 xtine
    December 13, 2012 at 1:18 pm


    [….] They want to give the president the middle class tax breaks, and only the middle class tax breaks. That means they are leaving on the table several other things: namely, extended unemployment benefits that will expire, the payroll tax cut that will expire, etc. But that’s just on the middle class side of things. What else are they leaving on the table? The estate tax. On January 1, 2013, the inheritance tax is scheduled to reset to 55% for inheritances over $1 million (it is currently at 35% with a $5 million exemption, and President Obama wants it at 45% with a $3.5 million exemption).

    What else? Capital gains tax rate will go up from 15% to 20%, and all dividends will be taxed as ordinary income. The president’s proposal is to raise the capital gains rate and tax dividends as ordinary income, but only for incomes over $250,000.

    Any more? The Alternative Minimum Tax, which, if Congress leaves it unchanged, will affect more people, but also more affluent people (although they don’t have to be super rich). [….]

    […..] But, they seem destined on never learning that this president has beaten them at their own game again and again. They seem destined to never understand that this country has smartened up to their destructive tactics. They seem destined to humiliate themselves.


  58. 236 hopefruit2
    December 13, 2012 at 1:21 pm

  59. 238 xtine
    December 13, 2012 at 1:28 pm

    [Booman on new Senate Committees, but this made me LOL! & I promise to be a kinder person soonest! 🙂 ]:

    “Joe Lieberman made his farewell speech in the Senate today. No one cared.”

    [More good stuff here]: http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2012/12/13/053/56926

    • 239 vcprezofan2
      December 13, 2012 at 2:34 pm

      Sometimes we forget to look at all the aspects of a proposition; I thought this paragraph in the same post was worth noting…

      People are giddy that Elizabeth Warren landed a slot on the Banking Committee, BUT[caps mine] they should ponder for a moment the overall effect of Joe Manchin and Heidi Heitkamp joining up with her. West Virginia and North Dakota are very red states, and their votes outweigh Warren’s. I doubt the banks are displeased with the overall change in the ideological makeup of the committee. ..//

  60. December 13, 2012 at 1:35 pm

  61. December 13, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    I think TPM is rediscovering its “progressive” roots: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/12/the_big_debt_limit_tell.php?ref=fpblg

    We’ll see how this all shakes out very soon. But if, as recent reporting suggests, [Boehner’s] still entertaining big budget deals that his own leadership team can’t support — even though his party’s telling him it’d be OK to just put the middle income tax cuts on the floor for a vote — it’s a sign to me that Democrats have successfully called his debt limit bluff.

  62. 242 hopefruit2
    December 13, 2012 at 1:40 pm

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