Welcome, Willard

President Barack Obama and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney talk in the Oval Office following their lunch, Nov. 29, 2012. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)


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204 Responses to “Welcome, Willard”

  1. 2 ourmanflint
    November 29, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    Hi Willard, dont get too comfy!

  2. 3 Rita
    November 29, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    Missed someone in the pic

  3. 4 Carol
    November 29, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    NO you can’t sit at my desk

  4. November 29, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    I know I’m not first ’cause my computer is ACTING UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

    • November 29, 2012 at 4:30 pm

      Even if I had been leaning on the door, I couldn’t have been first today, vc. ๐Ÿ™‚ Don’t know what is wrong w/my laptop. I refresh and it goes ’round and’round and ’round and ’round!

      • 8 vcprezofan2
        November 29, 2012 at 5:11 pm

        You laptop is just exhibiting the post-Obama win spirit or the pre-Christmas spirit. It’s dizzy with happiness. Truly, mine sometimes kicks me out of TOD repeatedly – so often that I’ve given up being exasperated. I keep trying until I get in.

  5. 9 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    This afternoon, President Obama and Governor Romney visited for an hour over lunch in the Private Dining Room adjacent to the Oval Office. Governor Romney congratulated the President for the success of his campaign and wished him well over the coming four years. The focus of their discussion was on America’s leadership in the world and the importance of maintaining that leadership position in the future. They pledged to stay in touch, particularly if opportunities to work together on shared interests arise in the future. Their lunch menu included white turkey chili and Southwestern grilled chicken salad.

    • 10 susanne
      November 29, 2012 at 4:32 pm

      hah! i thought they might do a southwestern theme–you know how myth wishes he was hispanic. big question: was there kool-aid, and did myth drink it? ๐Ÿ™‚

      • 11 nospin
        November 30, 2012 at 8:56 am

        “big question: was there kool-aid, and did myth drink it? :)”

        raotflmbo. That has to be one of the greatest punchlines I have ever read.

    • 12 vcprezofan2
      November 29, 2012 at 5:17 pm

      ‘lunch in the Private Dining Room ADJACENT TO the Oval Office’

      THAT was close enough, IMHO. Mitt has now had ‘his turn’. ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜‰

      Anyone noticed that Chips someone doctored the picture on the wall in the’ second’ photo-op? The blue picture on the wall underwent a content metamorphosis from one frame to the next!!

      • 13 joanshaw
        November 29, 2012 at 5:41 pm

        The picture also appears to be hanging from a skyhook!

        And what a contrast in looks between Romney and President Obama. Our president is simply beautiful, taut, healthy, neat, always appears ready for anything. How any voter could admire an old style middle-age white boy to the perfection of Barack Obama is beyond me.

        • 14 vcprezofan2
          November 29, 2012 at 5:55 pm

          And our President looks extremely relaxed IMO. I have yet to see a picture of Willard when he seemed completely at ease, with himself and or with this surroundings. I’m not saying one doesn’t exist, only that I have no memory of having seen it and you’d think I wouldn’t forget such a rare occurrence!

          • 15 Obama Grandmama
            November 29, 2012 at 6:23 pm

            Actually, I thought Mitt looked his most animated and at ease and his voice sounded the most authentic in his 47% video tape. Romney’s expression in his eyes, posture and voice during his rallies, in his debates, in defending and avoiding specifics of his policies always looked reticent, a bit afraid or even delusional while campaigning. The above photo has Romney’s body language in that same scenario with his stiffness and slight backwards lean and closed mouth slight smile while his eyes say get me out of here.

  6. 20 dotster3
    November 29, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    Only details I learned about the non-beer summit was they had white turkey chili and southwestern salad—–and that there were boxing gloves on display in the dining room where they ate—–presumably did not use. (Bashir) Said they would keep in touch. ๐Ÿ™‚ Call me, maybe. Or maybe not.

  7. 21 squarepeg
    November 29, 2012 at 4:31 pm

  8. 22 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    Not for the faint of heart or easily offended. It is soooo wrong but so hilarious.

  9. November 29, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    The Time John McCain And Lindsey Graham Relayed Bad Intelligence On A Sunday Talk Show


  10. 25 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    This is funny.

  11. 27 susanne
    November 29, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    waiting for a photo of myth exiting the white house. is there a goody bag of gifts? citizens want to know!

  12. 28 Kreen
    November 29, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    What a gracious man our president is! For him to even bear going through an entire minute in Mitt’s presence…he did it all for love of country, lol.

    • 29 theo67
      November 29, 2012 at 5:23 pm

      Indeed – especially after Mitt called President Obama a liar, and said he was presiding over the most corrupt Administration. President Obama is exceptionally gracious. I couldn’t do it.

    • 30 CEB
      November 29, 2012 at 5:47 pm

      I thought the same thing when I saw the photo. Our president is too gracious to these people who hold him in contempt. He owes Mitt nothing, but he is so magnanimous that he gives everyone the benefit of a doubt and truly believes that people do not need to agree on everything to be able to work on some things. Could you imagine how insufferable Mittens would be if their roles were reversed? In contrast, our PBO does not believe in “spiking the ball” nor is he interested in slash and burn politics. He truly is one of a kind in American leadership. Everyday, with each action, he shows us his incredible character. I am so thankful that he is ours for another four years.

  13. 33 PoliticalJunkessa
    November 29, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    This (presidential) rug is still taken. ๐Ÿ˜†

  14. 34 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    The memes that are cropping up from the picture released by the white house of Romney’s visit are hilarious.

  15. 37 PoliticalJunkessa
    November 29, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    Please proceed, Governor….to go on home now.

  16. 39 susanne
    November 29, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    yikes. chilling story of china’s military capacity, with an adorable coating of meme-making:


    includes video which i cannot find a way to post….(also chilling?)

  17. 40 Allison
    November 29, 2012 at 4:46 pm

  18. November 29, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    I bringing this over from the last thread:

    Romney visit to the WH had to be very torturous to his mind and soul, especially being in the Oval Office. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8068/8229803651_488717dfeb_h.jpg

    He was some what close, but extremely out of reach. IMO, President Obama should not have brought Mitt in the Oval Office; Whitehouse yes, but the Oval Office, no. Mitt will not ever be the same after that visit in the Oval Office. He should be put on psychiatric watch. Seriously.


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  20. 61 dotster3
    November 29, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    I just got the greatest little election booklet/journal from my gr. daughter, her 6th grade social studies project—-28 pages. They covered every detail—-facts about the presidency, personal details, interesting facts and backgrounds of all 4 candidates, family photos included; the electoral map, the conventions with her thoughts on the topics and messages and speakers; all the debates with her thoughts on those, their ads—-“Obama seems more sure about his plan, tells all the details. Romney mostly says empty phrases”. Also re. Romney —“Being president of a company is a lot different than being a president of a country”. Then election day when she told about going to vote with her dad and how cool she thought that was. And the results with the states colored in. And her final thoughts—“I am happy President Obama was re-elected. He has worked very hard these last 4 years to bring our economy back. If he works that hard in the next 4 years, and I expect he will, he will help to make America an even better place to live.” She sent me a note saying she was sending me this because she knew how important this election was to me and she thought I would enjoy it and by the way she got an A+ on the project.
    I love that they did this—-the kids had to watch the conventions and the debates—–and pay attention to all aspects. A great little civics lesson.

    • 62 57andfemale
      November 29, 2012 at 5:01 pm

      That’s so cool, dotster!

    • 63 sherijr
      November 29, 2012 at 5:04 pm

      that is so lovely Dotster, thank you for sharing it.. she obviously learned so much.

    • 64 theo67
      November 29, 2012 at 5:27 pm

      Wow – what a bright child. My little niece listened to Romney one day and was able to quickly glean that he was full of nonsense and a liar. Most kids were able to rightly discern what was up, and it’s the adults who were confused.

    • 66 PoliticalJunkessa
      November 29, 2012 at 5:40 pm

      Love it!

    • 67 vcprezofan2
      November 29, 2012 at 6:06 pm

      What a terrific election/Christmas present! That’s one of those school projects that will be around for a long time – a perfect item for the family archives! Please Dotster, tell your grand-d congratulations from one of your blog pals for the effort and content of her project and convey my respect for all she has learned about citizenship. I bet she is going to be a very involved citizen! ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜†

    • 68 Elle in MI
      November 29, 2012 at 6:16 pm

      How awesome and what a great experience for her. A lot of young people were paying attention to this election and were really engaged. This is good news for democracy (little d) and Democrats (Big D) and terrible news for Republicans, who feed off ignorance, apathy, and selfishness. The young people are anything but ignorant and apathetic, they are intelligent, informed, engaged, and also empathetic. and that’s great news. Hope your granddaughter also has a copy of this marvelous project. Congratulations to her and to you too (’cause the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree!)

    • 69 Pamela
      November 29, 2012 at 9:26 pm

      Beautiful, you must have been so pleased, and thrilled too!

  21. 70 PoliticalJunkessa
    November 29, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    Bwahahahaha @ Big Bird! You ain’t right, Chips….whew! ๐Ÿ˜†

  22. 71 susanne
    November 29, 2012 at 4:56 pm

    oh lordylordylordy!!! the big bird picture is hilarious!!!

    • 72 vcprezofan2
      November 29, 2012 at 6:10 pm

      Coming late to the thread I should have known you eagle-eyed TODobots would not have missed that – wish I hadn’t commented on it upstream. Problem is when you are reading down after a late arrival you tend to instinctively respond as if stuff is current, without thought for the dialogue below. Oh well!

      • 73 susanne
        November 29, 2012 at 11:03 pm

        aloha vc
        we all do that– i’m often talking to myself here because of the time difference. for instance, i just got home from hula class, need to start fixing supper–it’s 6 pm. but my bloggy buddies are already yawning and through for the day. and probably nobody will ever read this! oh well! ๐Ÿ™‚

  23. 74 xtine
    November 29, 2012 at 4:56 pm

    [OT, but dood’s making crap pretzels]:

    Rep. Chris Gibson (R-NY) “came up with what might be the most creative excuse yet” for breaking his pledge not to raise taxes, Politicker reports.

    Gibson says “his district number changed from 19 to 20 during this year’s redistricting process and he reasoned that the pledge no longer applies to him as it was only to the constituents under the previous district number.”


  24. November 29, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    There’s so much to learn from President Barack Obama. I am not able to do what he did today,
    in terms of hosting Mitt Romney at the White House. A part of my commitment to this President
    and to what we can accomplish in these next four years is to develop my ability to manifest such graciousness.
    Another part is to join with the 23+million available to practice grass roots democracy and press the Congress on all
    matters of importance to our country and the world.

  25. November 29, 2012 at 4:59 pm

  26. 79 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    Huge news.

    • 80 theo67
      November 29, 2012 at 5:32 pm

      Personally, I’m thrilled with this news. The tide has clearly shifted, and I think that Netanyahu overplayed his hand with the Gaza attack. People just won’t sit back and take that overwhelming attack on the children of Gaza. It’s one thing to go after the terrorists who are lobbing rockets at you – quite another to kill over 150 people, 30% of whom are children, and line up your tanks at the border in preparation of mowing down a whole group of people. Inexcusable.

  27. 82 dudette9t9
    November 29, 2012 at 5:03 pm

  28. 87 carolyn
    November 29, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    Willard looks totally uncomfortable and ill at ease in that picture! And where, Mr. big patriot, is your flag lapel pin now that you are not running for office!!!

  29. November 29, 2012 at 5:04 pm

  30. 90 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 5:06 pm

  31. 91 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    U.N. Votes To Give Palestinians ‘Non-Member Observer State’ Status

    The United Nations General Assembly on Thursday overwhelmingly approved a resolution upgrading Palestine to a “non-member observer state,” from a “non-member observer entity.”

    Before the vote and in front of the assembly, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said this was the body’s “last chance to save the two-state solution.”

    He said despite all the violence and Israeli “aggressions” and its “occupation,” Palestinians and the Palestinian Authority have insisted on harmony and have looked at the “U.N. as a beacon of hope.”

    “We did not come here seeking to delegitimize a state established years ago, and that is Israel. Rather we came to affirm the legitimacy of a state that must now achieve its independence and that is Palestine,” Abbas said.

    “The moment has come for the world to say clearly: enough of aggression, enough with settlements and occupation,” Abbas said.

    Exactly 65 years after the General Assembly, convened at Lake Success, New York, voted to divide Palestine between a Jewish state and an Arab one, the same body voted 138 to 9 in favor of recognizing the State of Palestine.

    The United States and Israel voted against the measure, while France and Spain voted in favor. Great Britain and Germany, both major powers and important U.S. allies, abstained from the vote.

    this vote gives Palestinians the same status as the Vatican, but perhaps more importantly, it gives Palestinians access to other U.N. bodies like the International Criminal Court, where Palestinians could launch complaints against Israel.


  32. November 29, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    East as 1..2..3.. Utilize this amazing tool to tweet your CONgress!
    PolitiQueer is your one stop Twitter home for contacting Congress. All 535 members of the 113th Congress are listed. Link is provided!

  33. 94 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    President Barack Obama made an opening bid in budget talks with Republicans that calls for a $1.6 trillion tax increase, a $50 billion economic-stimulus program and new power to raise the federal debt limit without congressional approval, a broad set of demands Republicans viewed as a step back in talks to avoid looming tax increases and spending cuts.

    The proposal, offered by Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner as he made a round of meetings with congressional leaders in the Capitol Thursday, calls for increasing tax rates on incomes over $250,000, a one-year postponement of looming spending cuts in defense and domestic programs, and some $400 billion in savings over 10 years from Medicare and other entitlement programs.

    The details of the proposal were described by congressional GOP officials. Earlier in the day, after GOP leaders met with Mr. Geithner, they made plain they didn’t like what they heard.

    “No substantive progress has been made in the talks between the White House and the House over the last two weeks,” said House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio), who also spoke to Mr. Obama on the telephone Wednesday night.

    The administration had taken a “step backward, moving away from consensus and significantly closer to the cliff, delaying again the real, balanced solution that this crisis requires,” Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R., Ky.) said in a written statement released by his office.

    The White House offer in some sense amounts to a formal start of the negotiations, which could take many twists and turns before any possible deal is consummated. The White House didn’t have an immediate comment.


    • 95 susanne
      November 29, 2012 at 5:36 pm

      not gonna react to wsj’s version of events.

    • November 29, 2012 at 5:40 pm

      Hey UT, just a thought, consider this description when referencing the WSj: “Rubert Murdoch WSJ”…………

    • 97 theo67
      November 29, 2012 at 5:48 pm

      I have come to believe that the right wingers don’t actually understand the meaning of words. Or they have their own interpretation. When they say “real, balanced solution”, they actually mean “the President refused to do things our way”. Let them go over the cliff.

      • 98 vcprezofan2
        November 29, 2012 at 7:33 pm

        Theo, I have long felt that GOP types use a ‘reverse/opposite meaning’ dictionary, plain and simple! I am also convinced that their definition of democracy is something like ‘our way, or we pout and obstruct’. There is not a one of them I’ve heard speaking in the media who shows a modicum of rationality and good sense. I’ve often wondered how most of them got their post secondary accreditation and often felt that I wouldn’t want to lay claim to a degree from the same institutions.

    • November 29, 2012 at 6:08 pm

      I think it’s pretty good opening bid, considering the amount of tea baggers in the House.

  34. 100 Nena20409
    November 29, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    I am loving the artistry work of the work Filly, Ms Chipsticks. The Big Bird Pictorial is Brilliant. A work of art. I spat on my key boards. Then the 47% was the delicious icing on the Cake.

    I LOVE YOU…..Women…..OK that Ann Romney thingy felt flat here.

    I’m Lovin It…..McDonald ad fits, I think.

  35. 101 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    Echoes what the WSJ reported. This is a good start.

  36. 104 dudette9t9
    November 29, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    Off-topic but very cool!
    3 stars from space-related TV shows recently recorded video public service announcements about some practical use spinoffs of NASA technology: William Shater (Star Trek), Wil Wheaton (Star Trek: The Next Generation), and June Lockhart (Lost In Space)

  37. November 29, 2012 at 5:57 pm

    The Senate passed an amendment to the defense bill Thursday that would strike the prohibition on biofuel refinery construction.

    The amendment allows the Department of Defense to invest in refineries for โ€œadvancedโ€ biofuels through a joint Agriculture, Energy and Navy Departments agreement.

    Sen. Kay Hagan (D-N.C.) introduced amendment 3095, which passed on a 54-41 vote. She said the militaryโ€™s reliance on oil subjects it to price shocks.


    That’s good news for Mitt Romney.

  38. 109 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 5:57 pm

    Some journalists are freaking out over Pres. Obama’s opening bid to the GOP regarding the fiscal cliff. Hahahahahaha….welcome to the second term.

    • 110 theo67
      November 29, 2012 at 6:09 pm

      I assume the word journalists was in quotes in your head, right? These media personalities are still living in a delusional world where the right wing gets to call the shots. They are the reason why the country/middle class hasn’t moved forward as significantly as it should have in the last 40 years. I tweeted Perry whathisname yesterday about the media nonsense over Benghazi, asking whether the situation would be any better if the President and Ambassador Rice had used the precise words that the GOP seem to have wanted them to use. He told me that doesn’t matter in the beltway; that the debate on the ground usually has nothing to do with the issues at hand. The fact that the beltway media accepts that as an acceptable state of being is the root of the problem in the uninformed nature of the American public.

    • November 29, 2012 at 6:11 pm

      Wait until Ed Shultz and Bernie Sanders freaks out?
      I like it, wish it would come to fruition!

  39. 113 utaustinliberal
    November 29, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    Hahahah….Greg Sargent gets it right.

  40. November 29, 2012 at 6:06 pm

  41. 115 dudette9t9
    November 29, 2012 at 6:10 pm

  42. November 29, 2012 at 6:18 pm

    Coburn forces roll-call vote on military healthcare coverage of disabilities

    By Ramsey Cox
    Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) forced a roll-call vote on an amendment to the defense bill, despite wide support for the measure.

    An amendment expanding healthcare coverage for military family members with disabilities passed in the Senate on a vote of 66-29 Thursday. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) introduced Amendment 3058, which requires the military healthcare provider, TRICARE, to cover therapies for military family members with disabilities, such as autism.


    Thus, Coburn says he Is a Christian from Oklahoma! Really? On which Planet does he worship Christ?

  43. 118 Don
    November 29, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    I remember when I was young and in elementary school and I would cut up in class, my father would calmly say to me โ€œson, a soft ass makes up for a hard head.โ€ my dad taught me the true meaning of that quote one day when the teacher sent a note home. The Republicans are about to learn the same lesson I learned.

  44. 120 hopefruit2
    November 29, 2012 at 6:21 pm

  45. 123 Don
    November 29, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    Damn!! what a helluva opening bid by President Obama. What, the kitchen sink wasn’t available?

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  47. November 29, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    Mr 47% finally realizes his life long dream to make it to the White House…..for about 73minutes.

  48. November 29, 2012 at 6:41 pm

  49. November 29, 2012 at 6:43 pm

  50. 135 dudette9t9
    November 29, 2012 at 6:50 pm

  51. November 29, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    AMK . .. your prediction was correct:
    Obama 65,114,855 50.91%
    Romney 60,584,114 47.37%
    President with over 5M PV

  52. November 29, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    • 141 daisydem
      November 29, 2012 at 7:09 pm

      Love your avatar LL! Have you always had that one and I am just now noticing or is it new? Did you see my new one, huh, didya?

      • November 29, 2012 at 7:13 pm

        Dr. Venture is one of my personal heroes. I’ve used him in various social media for about 3 years.

        And yes, love your new avatar. Clink!

        • 143 daisydem
          November 29, 2012 at 7:18 pm

          Cheers! I usually have my Manhattans straight up in a chilled martini glass, but one of the best ones I have ever tasted was on the rocks at the Oxford House in Oxford, CT (I forgot to specify how I wanted it and on-the-rocks is how it was served) so the other night I decided I was in the mood for one that way. It was pretty good too!

    • 144 99ts
      November 29, 2012 at 7:31 pm

      Jeff Gauvin has the facts – GOP problem is “Black guys don’t get paid vacations”

      • 145 99ts
        November 29, 2012 at 7:32 pm

        Ahhhh – sorry – didn’t mean the first part of that tweet to show – I am hopeless at this

      • 149 anniebella
        November 30, 2012 at 5:23 am

        America wouldn’t be going over cliff or curb if it wasn’t for those two bit bastards in the House lead by Boehner. The Senate has already passed a bill in which the middle class taxes would not go up, by the House refuse to do so, even though they claim they don’t want the middle class taxes to go up.

  53. November 29, 2012 at 7:06 pm

  54. 151 LDS
    November 29, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    Thank you Chips for the photo shop of the pics. You are really too much.
    After watching Bo’s video for the …..I stopped counting. I looked at Myth’s frozen stance again and it looks as though he is inching closer and closer towards the desk. President Obama’s swagger stance on the seal had me humming, ” Signed, Sealed, Delivered…..Get to stepping, MF.
    He is trying to get behind the desk anyway he can….one more chance. By any means necessary.

    He seems so uncomfortable standing there and just had a thought, would this fool man attempt to bring a dog to the WH, God forbid if he had won? What an insult to Seamus. What another insult to us all. He was and never will be presidental material, never ever. Too many human character flaws, even for a dog.

    Hey, Bo! Get him!

  55. 152 Claire
    November 29, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    I hadn’t watched Chris Matthews for some time. Caught a few minutes with Bob Corker and had to turn it off. Can’t stand these racists attacking Amb Rice.

    • 153 Eleroy
      November 30, 2012 at 3:13 am

      Chris Matthews is an asshole and as constant a wind vane!!!
      Bob Corker can’t see a qualified loyal black woman Democrat as the top diplomat even though he supported a very partisan George Bush loyalist Condoleeza Rice for the same job!!!

  56. 154 vcprezofan2
    November 29, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    Absent from TOD all day today and know I won’t catch up, so can anyone say whether Chips has gotten an update from Fred yet? Thanks.

  57. 157 dudette9t9
    November 29, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    Interesting speculation in the comments section of this article on Juanita Jean’s blog about who PBO might put up for SOS as an alternative to Ambassador Rice (btw, my early and ONLY choice): http://juanitajean.com/2012/11/28/heres-what-i-think/

    Al Gore – intriguing, not a Clinton, makes a statement about importance of global climate change
    Bill Clinton – statesman of course, but I don’t see him or PBO wanting that
    Jon Huntsman – certainly qualified, would be a bipartisan choice, but could ya trust him? (Idontthinkso)

    This one is inspired though “Obama should appoint McConnell. Get him out of the Senate. A week after he is confirmed by the Senate, demand his resignation and send him packing back to Turtle Land!” LOL!! ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ Too bad PBO’s not that cold-blooded!

  58. November 29, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    I love the PBO/Willard pic and what it represents…WE WON.

    Like the Big Bird pic also. Rev. Al showed a photoshopped pic of the two shaking hands with Big Bird poking
    his head through the the door of the dining room. Funny stuff. If anyone finds it can you please post it.

  59. 163 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    November 29, 2012 at 7:58 pm

  60. 165 dudette9t9
    November 29, 2012 at 8:07 pm

  61. 167 dudette9t9
    November 29, 2012 at 8:12 pm

  62. November 29, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    I read that the Green/Envirinmental groups want assurances that Susan will dump her Keystone stocks.
    WTF? Who do they think they are? Also, so now the far left is attacking Susan Rice?
    I don’t like it when People get picked on. It’s not right!

  63. 169 vitaminlover
    November 29, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    BYE BYE, Willard. Don’t let the door hit ya’ where the Good Lord split ya’!

  64. November 29, 2012 at 8:14 pm

  65. November 29, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    • November 29, 2012 at 8:27 pm

      Complicated! Not as easy saying go right ahead! Remember, this war has been going on for 2k years and before that the Persians and The Hebrews were at war over that one piece of Land Jerusalem.
      As soon as all 3 sides declare that Jerusalem is just a piece of Land, the War continues.

    • November 29, 2012 at 8:49 pm

      I’m with you Chipsticks! We seem to be all hat and no cattle on this; expecting Israel to work with them but then we don’t recognize them in the UN? And on what legitimate grounds? Not because of Hamas as we have recognized member and non-member status for far bloodier run dictatorships such as Libya, Iran and of course our #1 geo-political foe Russia. ๐Ÿ™‚ Israel needs to figure out how to get along with it’s neighbors without big brother US – it IS the definition of being an enabler of self destructive behavior .

      • 174 vcprezofan2
        November 29, 2012 at 9:14 pm

        I agree with your last sentence, FORUS, but I think it’s a bit unreasonable of us to expect that the President would change his ‘vote’ immediately following the election. We know President Obama as a principled individual and I happen to think that it would have been shocking for him to drop his stated position re Palestinians on this occasion. I have long believed (and am waiting for ) PBO to slap Bibi’s wrist. I believe he will, but I also believe that he will do it with deliberation and in his usual painstaking way so that it sticks, AND so that it benefits the citizens on both sides. I have no doubts that PBO cares about the average Israelis as well as the average Palestinians.

    • 175 amk for obama
      November 29, 2012 at 9:02 pm

      BBC – The assembly voted 138-9 in favour, with 41 nations abstaining. The UK abstained from the vote, as did Germany. The Czech Republic, the Marshall Islands and Panama were among the nations voting with the US and Israel.

      It says it all.

      US has painted itself into a corner on this.

  66. November 29, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    Senate amendment backs Obamaโ€™s withdrawal timeline in Afghanistan

    By Ramsey Cox
    The Senate condoned President Obamaโ€™s timeline for withdrawal of forces in Afghanistan by passing an amendment to the defense bill Thursday.

    The amendment 3096, introduced by Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.), states the support of the Senate that U.S. combat troops are withdrawn from Afghanistan by Dec. 31, 2014.

  67. November 29, 2012 at 8:26 pm

  68. November 29, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    O/T: On Rock Center tonight, Ann Curry is doing a segment on The Employed Homeless. She is in Johnson City, TN……2 hrs. from Knoxville and where my mother lives in the assisted living facility. In fact, since I’ve been sick this week, I am going up tomorrow since I couldn’t do my Wednesday trip. I saw a clip on our local 6:00 news. It is heart breaking! I’ll have to DVR it or Scandal since I can’t watch both at the same time.

  69. 179 dudette9t9
    November 29, 2012 at 8:30 pm

  70. November 29, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    • 181 dotster3
      November 29, 2012 at 8:43 pm

      I see Susan Rice and Hillary Clinton called the vote “unfortunate” and “counter-productive”. That sentiment seems “unfortunate” to me, but i don’t profess to understand all the whys of that. Is it the same ol’, same ol’?

      • November 29, 2012 at 8:47 pm

        No, they are trying to give it teeth and stability.
        This means nothing but symbolic gesture. For some, it’s a victory, however.

        • November 29, 2012 at 8:57 pm

          It’s hardly just symbolic. For Palestinians this is on par to POTUS saying that gays should be allowed to be married. He doesn’t control any aspect of that but it’s recognition of them for what they are and it cannot be underestimated in both a moral and strategic victory for their cause.


          With its newly enhanced status, the Palestinians can now gain access to U.N. agencies and international bodies, most significantly the International Criminal Court, which could become a springboard for going after Israel for alleged war crimes or its ongoing settlement building on war-won land.

        • 184 amk for obama
          November 29, 2012 at 9:08 pm

          BBC – http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20550864

          The Palestinians are seeking UN recognition of a Palestinian state in the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem, the lands Israel captured in 1967.

          While the move is seen as a symbolic milestone in Palestinian ambitions for statehood, the “Yes” vote will also have a practical diplomatic effect, says the BBC’s Barbara Plett, at the UN.

          It would allow the Palestinians to participate in debates at the UN and improve their chances of joining UN agencies and bodies like the International Criminal Court.

      • November 29, 2012 at 8:58 pm

        The key issue, dotster, is that Ambassador Rice has, rightly, stated publicly that it both parties should engage in DIRECT talks and thereby effectively recognizes the will of the majority of UN Member Nations that Palestine is indeed a member of that community of States:

        The way she phrases that tweet is not accidental. She gives equal status to both parties and burdens them, equally.


        • November 29, 2012 at 9:18 pm

          WIth all due respect that’s a weasley way of trying to justify our vote. What Amb Rice did was conflate the issue with the ongoing problem with Israel and that isn’t what this vote about. The two issues conflated unfortunately by the US vote were: 1 US recognition of Palestine as a state 2. Israel’s many problems with Palestine including recognition.

          There’s no reason the U.S. couldn’t have voted in favor of non-member status for Palestine other than the fact that we are in an enabler position with the AIPAC lobby and with the psychopath Bibi. I’m sure POTUS will get around to getting this recognition matter made right in 2015 or ’16 but we all know it can’t be on the top of his list right now unfortunately.

          • November 29, 2012 at 9:22 pm

            arghhh. “…what this vote was about.”

            • November 29, 2012 at 9:28 pm

              It’s both sides. Look, I hate Nut and Yahoo, but Hamas is an instigator here.
              So is Iran, and to their North, Hezbollah.
              All sides hands are not clean.
              Don’t be fooled.

              • November 29, 2012 at 9:45 pm

                No – sorry it’s not both sides. This vote today had ZERO to do with Iran or Hamas. Of course there are dirty hands all around on war and peace and settlements and whatever but this vote wasn’t about that. It was for recognition of Palestine as a non-member state in the UN. The US vote is purposely conflating the recognition issue with the issues of Hamas/Iran/Israel problems —solely to make people think it’s about that when they are really just covering for Israel.

          • 190 hopefruit2
            November 29, 2012 at 9:29 pm

            I have always given this administration the benefit of the doubt that there are things going on behind the scenes that I (and my fellow bloggers, tweeters, etc) are not privy to. And 99% of the time, that benefit is usually justified by the outcome – in which losses are minimized and gains are maximized.

            From your (and my) vantage point, it may seem that all that’s needed is a “yes” vote from the US – and that would give the US better optics in this situation. But we should stop and pause to consider that there may be other consequences of a “yes” US vote – hidden consequences that may lead to far worse outcomes, negating the good optics of a “yes” vote. I think we need to reserve judgment and refrain from attacking the administration as being “weaselly” and that kind of language. While we can express concern and admit that we don’t understand why the US continues to vote against Palestinian statehood, we need to exercise some caution -knowing who the President is and how he tends to manage complicated foreign and domestic issues.

            • 191 Eleroy
              November 30, 2012 at 3:26 am

              I am with you, I trust President Obama and every call he makes!!!

              • 192 anniebella
                November 30, 2012 at 5:34 am

                I don’t have alot to say about the UN vote. As said before it is up to Israel and the Palestine to want peace more than war. At least they could be sitting down to the table talking.

            • 193 nospin
              November 30, 2012 at 9:12 am

              right there with you hopefruit2. I am confident in what this administration’s stance will result a better outcome. No doubts at all from me. None.

        • 194 nospin
          November 30, 2012 at 9:10 am

          I agree with Ambassador Rice.

  71. 195 Ladyhawke
    November 29, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    Greg Sargent โ€@ThePlumLineGS


    Reminder: Ds have already voted for over $1 trillion in spending cuts. Rs have not made a single concession on tax rates.


  72. 196 vcprezofan2
    November 29, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    Any interested Arkansans?

    • 197 Eleroy
      November 30, 2012 at 3:30 am

      One of my least favorite Democratic senators!!!

      Has been extremely disrespectful and unsupportive of President Obama!!!

      What a shame that Dems did so well in down tickets in Arkansas but President Obama lost badly in this State. Very telling!!!

  73. November 29, 2012 at 8:53 pm

  74. November 29, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    LMAO at Paul Ryan! POTUS beat his butt all over the state of Wisconsin. BTW, did you guys know the state motto there is “FORWARD!” I just learned that on Google… I gotta tweet that lol.

  75. 202 amk for obama
    November 29, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    I love it that PBO has left hand in his pant packet. That’s how I would show my contempt for a shameless liar.

    • November 29, 2012 at 9:51 pm

      If one didn’t know he was a teetotaler Mormon one would think that Willard Romney was a boozer with his big red nose, glassy squinty eyes and pallid skin tone.

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