Just a thought….as it has been said, Willard truly thought that he was going to win What do you all think made him think that way or do you believe deep down that he knew he was toast from the get-go? Any thoughts, opinions. Just askin’.
I think he’s saying he was blindsided because he conned a lot of money out of his investors. But if he truly was completely unaware of his date with destiny, then he’s even more of a bigger idiot than I thought.
He never had to actually prove himself in anything. All his life, doors have been opened for him, and he credits himself with his success. That’s why they could mold and entire campaign on the “you didn’t build that” nonsense – because they actually don’t understand that the rich operate at a significant advantage over everyone else. Mitt got his job at Bain because Bain admired his father. Bain offered him the job to start the Bain Capital company, and even offered to provide him with an elaborate alibi if he failed. He’s been entitled his entire life, and he doesn’t even realize it. And I don’t think he’s very bright.
This seems to show tht he really could not survive in the ‘real world’ but he would still stoop so low as to destroy people’s jobs and lives because they are dispensable.
I’m sick of Republicans saying they voted for Romney because he’s good at business. When or where was that – Bain Capitol? All he did there was steal pension funds and bankrupt businesses. Running a campaign is like running a business and people across all political parties acknowledge than Obama’s 2012 campaign was the best in history. During the Diane Sawyer interview, Plouffe said the whole business tone is set by the candidate and that Obama was brilliant. I am so grateful to be living during the presidency of Barack Obama. I expect him to have an immortal presence in the history books someday.
I think that all his life he was used to getting everything he ever wanted. The people that he surrounded himself with were “yes” people and no one wanted to tell him something that he didn’t want to hear.
VL, I think Mitt thought he would win , given the fact that he is somewhat dense, he and AnnD felt entitled, his pals were throwing a lot of money his way, Rove was ‘on the case’ with his history of successful cheating, and the SOS in Ohio was frantically doing his part. I do think that near the last couple or so days he got nervous, but he still felt his experienced cheaters would pull him through. I mean, look at how many pundits whatever were saying he would have a landslide victory!
We saw Willard’s deeply held beliefs in the leaked fundraising tapes.
He spouted wingnut belief after wingnut belief, including that 47% of the U.S. are moochers and they are all supporters of the President. He believes that.
He actually believed the right wing talking point that the President waited weeks to call the Benghazi attack an act of terror. Neither the candidate, nor anybody in his camp ever fact-checked that assertion. So he when he strode up to Candy Crawley, after the President corrected him, he was so sure that he had caught the President in a mistake or lie as he lectured the President on what he said in the Rose Garden. The bubble he lived in cost him big time.
Then thinking he was in the midst of unstoppable momentum after Debate One, he was subdued in Debate Two and Three, not wanting to stop his upward trajectory. Good internal polling would have told him that his “Mittmentum” was shut down after they released the Biden.
So it’s entirely possible that Willard was susceptible to the same confirmation bias that any of us are susceptible to–we sometimes believe what we want to believe and do not seek evidence to the contrary. Wealthy and powerful people are particularly vulnerable to this because they are often surrounded by people who are drawing large salaries from them and will say whatever their benefactor wants to hear so that they can keep drawing those large salaries.
Having said all that, the truth is, Willard could just be lying again.
‘ Released the Biden’ love that . i also agree with lack of fact checking on his and his crew’s part. It’s like they thought that they didn’t have to verify because they were so perfectly invincible. Yes he could be lying too.
i think he believes in his superiority. he expected to win, because that’s what superior people do. he was no more interested in governing than shrub. he wanted the title and acclaim, and he’d have let lyin’ or anyone else do the work.
and he wanted miss ann to be first lady, sort of like super arm candy for him.
i think he was sincerely surprised he lost because, like any bully, he assumed that if he f##ked us up we’d give him what he wants.
So true, susanne, he just wanted the job he didn’t care about the issues or the people. What makes him so obtuse? Do you think he will ever learn and or change?
the guy was so nervous he could hardly tell the story…i wonder what made him more nervous ….asking his lady to marry him..or retelling the story in front of PBO… 😀
Petraeus–just what PBO did NOT need at this point in time. The poor man can’t get even a couple of days to just relax. The MSM and the Repubs are not going to let this go, and they don’t want to blame their lovely general so instead they’ll focus on looking for another conspiracy. Frankly, I’d like to bash him upside the head for sheer stupidity. I will never understand the male mentality that makes even the smartest of men convince themselves they can get away with this kind of shit. Ya gotta wonder if PBO is rethinking a second term:-) And of course, you’ve got that scumbag Cantor in the middle of this. I was feeling mildly tolerant towards the GOP the last couple of days but it has disappeared.
Remember this: No weapon formed against our President shall prosper.
And PBO is NOT rethinking a second term. Whatever shenanigans the GOP/MSM are hoping to hurt PBO with this crap – it’s going to backfire on them all. Just like Romney’s defeat – they will be eating crow when all is said and done.
For our brilliant president this is minor stuff to deal with. Frankly POTUS is probably happy to have Patraeus out. I saw Booman’s story that he thought POTUS might have set him up as head of CIA to keep an eye on him so he wouldn’t be causing trouble as a guest analyst on some cable show or possibly running for office. Just because the carnival barkers are trying to stir shit up doesn’t mean POTUS spends time thinking about it.
This discussion reminded me of this – I don’t know why. Other than a reminder to me that I know the President can deal with whatever comes his way, and that he is not as ‘naive’ as Repubs might like to think. 😉
Thanks vc. This was good to view again. Then Senator Obama was so well informed on these issues and although he cited failures on the Bush admin it was clear to everyone in the room, including Patraeus that since Bush had some time previously pretty much fully delegated all decisions and strategy on Iraq to Patraeus that these criticisms were directly on him. So the general was somewhat perturbed at the truth telling by the Senator. 🙂 That’s why POTUS put him in as CIA I’m convinced – to keep him in close and not on the Beltway circuit countering what military decisions POTUS was making.
YW, ForUS. At the time PBO was doing this I probably didn’t even know of him as I was late to the party. Yet I watch him there and I snicker at those who used words like ‘weak’ to describe him. He does his research, and IMO is never afraid to confront issues when he deems it pertinent. We got lucky to get a politician who is smart, caring of those he serves and courageous enough to do what is necessary, while not talking until he knows what he’s talking about.
Exactly! I remember this very well as the dumbass media was orgasmic about a match-up of smarts between Mr. military John McCain against community organizer Barack Obama in their separate questioning of the general. This video segment doesn’t shown either questioning the general but it wasn’t even a contest as to who came out looking smarter and more prepared; the community organizer. 🙂
I wouldn’t worry about this issue, although I stopped following it early and am not up on all of the details. People are people, and the general did the noble thing by tendering his resignation, once he got his wits about him. The CIA will go on. The investigations will continue. Cantor remains the scum on the bottom of our shoes. I don’t plan to let the sniff of Republicans’ circling the forest to spoil any of my joy, even before the second Inaugural. That’s my take.
How do you stumble onto these wonderful tidbits of information, Amk? And when do you find the time? Do you have a research assistant who keeps you up to date with bizarre stories (aka jokes) and whacky bits of trivia?
Referring to the days when you’d leave regularly to go for your nightly rest and return later while I was still hanging around TODville; that, plus the fact that you do your own research, keep a good presence on twitter and generally have a finger in every pie. Mostly, if I’m doing one thing, then I’m not doing the other.
Seriously – not at all. I just have this thing with spelling where certain words look right/wrong to me. It’s like I consistently and unthinkingly write programme or labour/neighbour, etc. only using the other forms if I make a conscious effort (British schooled, I was). I could also point out that by the very link you shared, you admitted that there were two spellings. 😉 I choose not to throw out the old for the new, because I have an affinity with the old. And for the record, I have no problems with men being right when they are right, just like I have no problems with women being wrong when they are wrong.
Yeah but they already picked up 4 before this 7. 🙂 That’s why I said I’m not sure which 24 they were looking at – maybe they assumed they would get these 4 to begin with.
That video was really sweet! Our President really has the ‘common’ touch. He is a leader who always seems to know how to put ‘ordinary’ people at ease. God bless you, Mr. President!
The Republicans think they have a mandate for Robneys tax plan-
both our jobs crisis and our debt crisis by focusing on tax reform that strengthens the economy. There is bipartisan support for tax reform that closes loopholes and lowers rates.”
Rep. Tom Price (R-GA): On Fox News Sunday, House Republican Policy Committee Chairman Price, a member of both the Ways and Means and Budget Committees, said “We can increase revenue without increasing the tax rates on anybody in this country.”
A physicist, biologist and a chemist were going to the ocean for the first time.
The physicist saw the ocean and was fascinated by the waves. He said he wanted to do some research on the fluid dynamics of the waves and walked into the ocean. Obviously he was drowned and never returned.
The biologist said he wanted to do research on the flora and fauna inside the ocean and walked inside the ocean. He too, never returned.
The chemist waited for a long time and afterwards, wrote the observation, “The physicist and the biologist are soluble in ocean water”.
BTW, President Obama has now exceeded GWB’s 2004 popular vote margin and, of course, has trounced GWB’s EV totals from both 2000 & 2004 and appears headed toward a 5 Million votes margin 🙂
I hate, hate, hate that GW got that much of the popular vote because it was due to fear … he touted 911 and he made America afraid and that is what he ran on! That and the Rovian pot of anti-abortion stew stirred up in Ohio.
I calm myself down over any numbers caused by fear tactics when I think that GW will not be honored in the history books, but President Obama will be receiving admiration, praise, and glory through his entire long life and take up a big chunk of the history books, which will be filled with his accomplishments. And then I go have another heaping bowl of ice cream to celebrate. 🙂
To all who are predicting the imminent doom of our country:
(An open letter.)
You are right. America is done. It would be easy to argue with you, maybe try to calm you in a tender moment of bipartisanship and assure you that the United States of America, as you know it, is safe and sound in the hands of President Obama. But it would also be a lie.
You see, these past four years have been endemic of an America dying and last night’s election was a nail in its coffin. I’ll tell you a damning secret: I fought tooth and nail to kill that America–so reassuring you wouldn’t just be a lie, it would be terribly disingenuous.
“WE’RE AN EMPIRE NOW, AND WHEN WE ACT, WE CREATE OUR OWN REALITY.”
Reality-based community
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The source of the term is a quotation in an October 17, 2004, The New York Times Magazine article by writer Ron Suskind, quoting an unnamed aide to George W. Bush (later attributed to Karl Rove[1]):
The aide said that guys like me were “in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who “believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” … “That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”[2]
David Axelrod, who served as a senior adviser to the Obama campaign, said that going forward he will spend part of his time opening an institute of politics at the University of Chicago, during an appearance on CBS’ “Face the Nation” Sunday.
“My feeling is if I can help inspire some young people to get into this arena, as candidates, as strategists, as journalists, then that would be a great contribution to make,” Axelrod said.
Wonderful idea. With his temperament, skills, and smarts, he’ll be a fine DEMOCRATIC mentor at such an institute (as he’s already been, I’m sure, to many).
This bodes well for both Democrats and Republicans. If people can be taught how to present their issues, and debate them and regard politics and government as a vehicle to doing good in the world – then everyone will benefit. This is great!
Was feeling down cause its gonna rain all day tomorrow and I hate starting the week off with bad weather, but then my spirits were lifted cause I just realized not only do we FOUR MORE YEARS of a President trying to make my life better, but we also get
Another great Inauguration Day (will they have balls again too?), four more years of great Correspondents Dinner speeches, great Christmas Specials for the First Family, vacations in Hawaii, Easters at the White House, Presidential NCAA tournament bracket recommendations, Michelle and Jill PSA for military families, and a whole bunch of other good stuff….the rain will go away, but our President is really here for another for years. REALLY!!! IM SOOO HAPPY!!
Robin I’ve been thinking the same thing. I’m so ready for four more years sharing all these interesting events with our First Family – don’t forget SOTU address, St. Patrick’s Day, Memorial Day, 4th of July, Halloween, etc.
Thank-you HF. I knew there were many I had forgotten. And we will have new ones this time also. I would LOVE to see pics of Malia going to prom and graduating! Makes me smile just thinking about it.
BTW, in contrast to the R/R campaign, Axe said there were no surprises on election night in an interview with Politico. The results came in within 1/10th of a percentage point of OFA’s polling. That is pretty amazing.
Love this letter; thanks for sharing. My friends, co-workers and family members who happen to be white ( I am AA) think as this writer does. Some look at them and assume that they are repubs,, but not after they have gotten told off by very insulted and pissed off strong democratic Obama supporters. PBO looks for we have it common; what dreams and aspirations that we share and how to bring them into reality for the benefit of all. The other side looks for what divides us and aggravates it. They look for small- mindedness, plain old meanness and twist them even more. The America that PBO sees is the one that I want to live in.
Will the MSM ffkknn STOP ANY time soon with: “What do the refuggs need to do to repair their BRAND??” “What do the refuggs need to do to attract latinos, blacks, asians, women, youth, smart people, gays….mmm…..humans???” “The optics???” “TONE. Need to…..mmmm… HONE THEIR TONE?” “What do the refuggs NEED TO DO???” Obvious answer is FUCK THEIR SORRY OLD DELUDED, IGNORANT, CONFUSED DISHONEST SELVES.
But just about nary a word about running against a terrific President, terrific candidate, wonderful person…..marvelous family that’s the epitime of the American Dream.
There is in all of that stupidity at least a small acknowledgement that the Republican party is highly damaged. However, it is not their “brand” that needs to be repaired, as most people do know. It is the entire party that needs to be overhauled…..but it won’t be.
Our excellent Hispanic yardman and his wife…..they work the family business together….came Friday and saw the Obama sign we still have in the window. Gilmer asked “You like Obama?” My husband told him definitely yes. His wife said, I don’t understand why those bankers don’t like him. He saved their banks! They were thrilled that we are Obama fans……They said he has been good for Hispanics, and my husband said “good for all of us.” Nobody fooled them, and “rebranding” is not going to change their vote. They are too smart!!!
Let those talking heads blather on…..they can’t change policy, and they obviously don’t influence voters.
And when they decide on the reason(s) for the loss (probably during an all-inclusive weekend retreat at one of adelson’s hotels), I hope they file it under 2016 – Reasons For GOP Election Loss, it will save them some grief in the future … LOL LOL. Cuz they will get their rear-ends handed to them again 🙂
Damn! If I was on my 5th Manhattan that dinner would be Mexican pollo, broiled rice and asado asparagus. 🙂 With Thanksgiving coming up I’m sure you’ve seen this great recipe for cooking the Tom turkey.
How to cook a Turkey
Step 1: Go buy a turkey
Step 2: Take a drink of whiskey
Step 3: Put turkey in the oven
Step 4: Take another 2 drinks of whiskey
Step 5: Set the degree at 375 ovens
Step 6: Take 3 more whiskeys of drink
Step 7: Turn oven the on
Step 8: Take 4 whisks of drinky
Step 9: Turk the bastey
Step 10: Whiskey another bottle of get
Step 11: Stick a turkey in the thermometer
Step 12: Glass yourself o pour of whiskey
Step 13: Bake the whiskey for 4 hours
Step 14: Take the oven out of the turkey
Step 15: Floor the turkey up off of the pick
Step 16: Turk the carvey
Step 17: Get yourself another scottle of botch
Step 18: Tet the sable and pour yourself a glass of turkey
Hey, y’all… Just had a read through, missed everything today, but wanted to say goodnight, and Yes, people all around are so relieved, so happy, and feeling safe and optimistic. It’s real. We have work to do, but that’s okay, we like to work! Good Night, sweet dreams! {{{{{Chips}}}}}
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Like before (Jan 2009), will Obama For America (OFA) 2012 Campaign be used to help PBHO ( and, maybe, local/state/federal DEMs) in governin’ this country, again? That question was answered, in the affirmative, here:
Just a taste of The Beginning of Organizin’ For America (OFA) 2009—> Unbeknownst to critics and others, PBHO and Team Obama were thinking about how to harnass the momentum of that campaign. How do they build on it? Here’s a sequence of ‘behind-the-scene’ events leading up to it and beyond. Some of us, Ocrats/Obots, probably, weren’t aware of this. Right?
“The biggest determining factor was that we couldn’t handle the automobile bailout issue,” said Bob Bennett, chairman of the Ohio Republican Party.
…The perception of Romney as indifferent to the auto industry’s fate was “a coffin nail,” said John Heitmann, a University of Dayton historian who teaches and writes about the car’s place in American culture.[…]
Exit polls conducted for The Associated Press and television networks found that about 60 percent of voters in both states supported the government’s loan and industry restructuring program, and three-quarters of them backed Obama. The bailout also was popular in Wisconsin, even though it hadn’t stopped GM and Chrysler from closing plants there.
“We have a debt to pay back to President Obama. He saved us,” said Joseph Losier, 33, a fourth-generation autoworker from suburban Detroit. After the bailout, Chrysler hired 500 people at the stamping plant where he works. Even those with no direct connection to the industry were grateful.[…]
The bailout was popular with independents and even some Republicans, and drew support for Obama outside the usual Democratic-leaning areas, said Chris Redfern, chairman of the Ohio Democratic Party.
It wasn’t just a “perception”. He said, and reiterated, that he didn’t care if the automobile (and manufacturing) industry went background and disappeared from the US landscape. And until they acknowledge that people know the truth, and rejected his plain spoken disdain for workers in America, they will never learn. And the fact that Willard didn’t have the courage to stand behind American workers and a classic American industry means that he does not have, and never will have, what it takes to lead them.
You’re absolutely right Theo. I wanted to highlight that well before Sandy, the key thing is that Romney’s arrogance and callous attitude toward the auto industry lost him Ohio, Michigan and possibly Wisconsin a long time ago. That’s a big deficit that’s not going to be overcome with a hail mary Jeeps-to-China ad or getting a lot of votes southern states with a low Electoral College vote yield.
Just one of several critical mistakes Team Mitt made.
To add insult to injury, Romney had the nerve to show up in Ohio and tell the people attending his rally that the Jeep plant was being closed, and that some of them would lose their jobs, instilling panic in people who had already endured tough economic times. I think this may have caused some people who may have intended to vote for him to vote for PBO. I also think some people would be offended by someone who lied to them to their face, and this is exactly what Romney did. His goose was cooked when GM and Chrysler said that he wasn’t telling the truth, and when the media confirmed it.
In other news……. My LA GALAXY are up 3-0 in the first leg of the WESTERN CONFERENCE FINAL!!! *IF* we end next Saturday’s game against Seattle with more aggregate goals, WE are in the MLS CUP FINAL (again.)
And if Houston (up 3-1 vs DC United) end up with the most aggregate goals in their game against DC on Saturday, then the MLS CUP will be BACK IN LOS ANGELES!!!
5. We all will make mistakes. The key is to recognize them and admit them, to learn from them, and to take off the rear view mirrors—drive on and avoid making them again.”
I already considered it probable that they all thought that the President would be defeated and this scandal would be covered up. Now, it seems even more probable.
That is it! I kept wondering why those 2 Repub members of Congress kept this info on the down low——-especially if they thought there was any way they could connect it to or hurt Obama right before the election. Protecting their future presidential candidate?
I agree amk. I thought I could watch Morning Joe today. But I had to turn him off. They are really trying to tie the Petraeus email thing to PBO and Benghazi. Its sickening! That seems to be the story of the day for the MSM. I may have to have another self imposed MSM blackout day.
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It is clear that Morning Joke and the Republicans are trying to use this Petraeus affair to damage the administration, maybe they feel it will make them feel alittle better after getting their butt kick 332-206. They thought they were going to steal this election, they thought their hate were going to will Mitt to a win. And the were wrong.
“What policymakers believe to have taken place in any particular case is what matters – more than what actually occurred.” David Petraeus, 1987 Princeton dissertation. Could any statement be more cynical?
Good Morning Everyone. . .
Its so difficult when you TRY not be a cheerleader or a doting supporter of the President. You say to yourself that the issues are the most important . . . we want to move forward, etc. etc. and THEN you see the a video such as this… the warmth, care, laughter, interest. This is the leader of the free world and he is listening to how someone got engaged. How can you not love him?
Bobfr, on Friday night I had posted this comment after checking Paula Broadwell’s Twitter feed and followees, because I felt she was hobnobbing mostly with some unsavory Repub characters:
Today Show in its infinite wisdom, and in what has to be a Big Joke, invites Mankini to appear and give his pearls of wisdom on mistresses and affairs.
Wow.
And what I learned from reading WP story—–Petraeus gave prominent members of conservative think tanks permanent office space in his compound—–(and Paula Broadwell) and that Petraeus had a staff member assigned to provide fresh sliced pineapple for him before bedtime.
Denial has poisoned the GOP and threatens the rest of the country too. all politicians lie…but Romney’s record was exceptional by any standard … total of 917 reached a crescendo … accusing Chrysler of planning to ship American jobs to China … his flip flops phenomenal … jello-like bio (Bain, Olympics, one term disowned public service, Olympics, churchgoing, tax returns) … has human touch like an ATM …yet 57 million Americans voted for him.
At the policy level … GOP denies climate change … rejects Keynesian economics … identifies voter fraud where there is none. At the loony-tunes level … birthers, websites purporting that Obama was lying about Osama bin Laden’s death, and not one but two (failed) senatorial candidates who redefined rape in defiance of medical science and simple common sense. It’s the GOP that demands the rewriting of history …
it may be the wholesale denial of reality by the opposition and its fellow travelers that is the biggest obstacle to our country moving forward under a much-empowered Barack Obama in his second term. If truth can’t command a mandate, no one can.
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Good Sunday night friends,
Good evening friends. And congrats on first Proud!
Top Ten! YAY.
What a cute video!
Absolutely love the video. 🙂
Great video.
Just a thought….as it has been said, Willard truly thought that he was going to win What do you all think made him think that way or do you believe deep down that he knew he was toast from the get-go? Any thoughts, opinions. Just askin’.
I think he’s saying he was blindsided because he conned a lot of money out of his investors. But if he truly was completely unaware of his date with destiny, then he’s even more of a bigger idiot than I thought.
Which, if I go strictly with my own thoughts, is QUITE the big idiot.
I would say colossal.
Lol!
Hahaha.
So he is just that stupid you think? He does look stupid. How can someone be that stupid? Did he not see the writing on the wall?
He never had to actually prove himself in anything. All his life, doors have been opened for him, and he credits himself with his success. That’s why they could mold and entire campaign on the “you didn’t build that” nonsense – because they actually don’t understand that the rich operate at a significant advantage over everyone else. Mitt got his job at Bain because Bain admired his father. Bain offered him the job to start the Bain Capital company, and even offered to provide him with an elaborate alibi if he failed. He’s been entitled his entire life, and he doesn’t even realize it. And I don’t think he’s very bright.
EXACTLY!!
He thought he was ENTITLED to be President.
This seems to show tht he really could not survive in the ‘real world’ but he would still stoop so low as to destroy people’s jobs and lives because they are dispensable.
I’m sick of Republicans saying they voted for Romney because he’s good at business. When or where was that – Bain Capitol? All he did there was steal pension funds and bankrupt businesses. Running a campaign is like running a business and people across all political parties acknowledge than Obama’s 2012 campaign was the best in history. During the Diane Sawyer interview, Plouffe said the whole business tone is set by the candidate and that Obama was brilliant. I am so grateful to be living during the presidency of Barack Obama. I expect him to have an immortal presence in the history books someday.
“Immortal presence in the history books someday” undeniably true!!
I think that all his life he was used to getting everything he ever wanted. The people that he surrounded himself with were “yes” people and no one wanted to tell him something that he didn’t want to hear.
What a cad.
VL, I think Mitt thought he would win , given the fact that he is somewhat dense, he and AnnD felt entitled, his pals were throwing a lot of money his way, Rove was ‘on the case’ with his history of successful cheating, and the SOS in Ohio was frantically doing his part. I do think that near the last couple or so days he got nervous, but he still felt his experienced cheaters would pull him through. I mean, look at how many pundits whatever were saying he would have a landslide victory!
Telling him what they thought he wanted to hear.
We saw Willard’s deeply held beliefs in the leaked fundraising tapes.
He spouted wingnut belief after wingnut belief, including that 47% of the U.S. are moochers and they are all supporters of the President. He believes that.
He actually believed the right wing talking point that the President waited weeks to call the Benghazi attack an act of terror. Neither the candidate, nor anybody in his camp ever fact-checked that assertion. So he when he strode up to Candy Crawley, after the President corrected him, he was so sure that he had caught the President in a mistake or lie as he lectured the President on what he said in the Rose Garden. The bubble he lived in cost him big time.
Then thinking he was in the midst of unstoppable momentum after Debate One, he was subdued in Debate Two and Three, not wanting to stop his upward trajectory. Good internal polling would have told him that his “Mittmentum” was shut down after they released the Biden.
So it’s entirely possible that Willard was susceptible to the same confirmation bias that any of us are susceptible to–we sometimes believe what we want to believe and do not seek evidence to the contrary. Wealthy and powerful people are particularly vulnerable to this because they are often surrounded by people who are drawing large salaries from them and will say whatever their benefactor wants to hear so that they can keep drawing those large salaries.
Having said all that, the truth is, Willard could just be lying again.
‘ Released the Biden’ love that . i also agree with lack of fact checking on his and his crew’s part. It’s like they thought that they didn’t have to verify because they were so perfectly invincible. Yes he could be lying too.
Great analysis, firedup – and I also love the line “released the Biden”. How appropriate!
i think he believes in his superiority. he expected to win, because that’s what superior people do. he was no more interested in governing than shrub. he wanted the title and acclaim, and he’d have let lyin’ or anyone else do the work.
and he wanted miss ann to be first lady, sort of like super arm candy for him.
i think he was sincerely surprised he lost because, like any bully, he assumed that if he f##ked us up we’d give him what he wants.
So true, susanne, he just wanted the job he didn’t care about the issues or the people. What makes him so obtuse? Do you think he will ever learn and or change?
not likely, but where there’s life there’s hope!
In his superiority and his “whiteness”.
Sooo Coooooool….
the guy was so nervous he could hardly tell the story…i wonder what made him more nervous ….asking his lady to marry him..or retelling the story in front of PBO… 😀
Probably a toss-up, pf 🙂
Left you a comment in the previous thread, pf. America IS YOUR Country!
Congrats on 1st – Proud & Grab 🙂
#FORWARD
Thank You Bob….
LOL@”toss-up” We’re now fluent in pollster language these last couple weeks 🙂
hf 😀 😀 😀
I just had to do it!!! 🙂
Ya’ll excuse me. I’m checking out early. Da Bears are playing Houston so I’m outta here. See ya’ll tomorrow win or lose.
Night Yardarm, the best to the Bears!
I wonder if POTUS will be watching any of the game. The Bears is his favorite NFL football team.
Bears are good.
Hope the Bears win and you have a lovely evening, sailor!!
Night, yardarm:) There’s no separating a man from his football…
thoroughly enjoyed that video. Also, loved seeing all the young people on the campaign, and what a beautiful mix!
Heh Chips, how come this iconic pic does not find a top place in the right hand top honor roll?
Sheesh Amk, it’s been there all day! 😕
What a green faced liar.
😆 😆 😆 😆
smiling yellow faces won’t cut it.
Petraeus–just what PBO did NOT need at this point in time. The poor man can’t get even a couple of days to just relax. The MSM and the Repubs are not going to let this go, and they don’t want to blame their lovely general so instead they’ll focus on looking for another conspiracy. Frankly, I’d like to bash him upside the head for sheer stupidity. I will never understand the male mentality that makes even the smartest of men convince themselves they can get away with this kind of shit. Ya gotta wonder if PBO is rethinking a second term:-) And of course, you’ve got that scumbag Cantor in the middle of this. I was feeling mildly tolerant towards the GOP the last couple of days but it has disappeared.
Yet another media’s balloon boy. This too shall pass.
Correct. that’s just a distraction to take the sting off the humiliating defeat of Romney, his billionaire friends, GOPMEdia and pollsters.
Exactly, HF!
Indeed it will….
Remember this: No weapon formed against our President shall prosper.
And PBO is NOT rethinking a second term. Whatever shenanigans the GOP/MSM are hoping to hurt PBO with this crap – it’s going to backfire on them all. Just like Romney’s defeat – they will be eating crow when all is said and done.
Amen, hopefruit. They had better tread lightly for God has His Hand on him!
For our brilliant president this is minor stuff to deal with. Frankly POTUS is probably happy to have Patraeus out. I saw Booman’s story that he thought POTUS might have set him up as head of CIA to keep an eye on him so he wouldn’t be causing trouble as a guest analyst on some cable show or possibly running for office. Just because the carnival barkers are trying to stir shit up doesn’t mean POTUS spends time thinking about it.
This discussion reminded me of this – I don’t know why. Other than a reminder to me that I know the President can deal with whatever comes his way, and that he is not as ‘naive’ as Repubs might like to think. 😉
My God. What a smart man!!!! They are listening. He will be listened to. What authority!
Thanks vc. This was good to view again. Then Senator Obama was so well informed on these issues and although he cited failures on the Bush admin it was clear to everyone in the room, including Patraeus that since Bush had some time previously pretty much fully delegated all decisions and strategy on Iraq to Patraeus that these criticisms were directly on him. So the general was somewhat perturbed at the truth telling by the Senator. 🙂 That’s why POTUS put him in as CIA I’m convinced – to keep him in close and not on the Beltway circuit countering what military decisions POTUS was making.
YW, ForUS. At the time PBO was doing this I probably didn’t even know of him as I was late to the party. Yet I watch him there and I snicker at those who used words like ‘weak’ to describe him. He does his research, and IMO is never afraid to confront issues when he deems it pertinent. We got lucky to get a politician who is smart, caring of those he serves and courageous enough to do what is necessary, while not talking until he knows what he’s talking about.
Exactly! I remember this very well as the dumbass media was orgasmic about a match-up of smarts between Mr. military John McCain against community organizer Barack Obama in their separate questioning of the general. This video segment doesn’t shown either questioning the general but it wasn’t even a contest as to who came out looking smarter and more prepared; the community organizer. 🙂
lord, can you believe the rethugs thought they’d run herman ‘let’s see…….libya………..’ cain against him????????????
Exactly!
I wouldn’t worry about this issue, although I stopped following it early and am not up on all of the details. People are people, and the general did the noble thing by tendering his resignation, once he got his wits about him. The CIA will go on. The investigations will continue. Cantor remains the scum on the bottom of our shoes. I don’t plan to let the sniff of Republicans’ circling the forest to spoil any of my joy, even before the second Inaugural. That’s my take.
You do realize that the female reporter was just as married as betray-us right? She was also just as guilty in her own right.
Wow. Let fsm do their miracles.
fsm? who dat?
Also. Too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster
lmao. Love it!
dang. how did i miss out on pastafarianism? the mind shrinks from contemplating the conversion ordeal….
It’s rather obscene with the spaghetti meatballs lol.
How do you stumble onto these wonderful tidbits of information, Amk? And when do you find the time? Do you have a research assistant who keeps you up to date with bizarre stories (aka jokes) and whacky bits of trivia?
I am a one-man army, vc.
And yes, I am wacky.
We do agree, on the whacky part. However, I have to admit I am ‘awed’ that you do all that AND sleep too! 😉
sleep ? idontknowhatchersayingvc.
Referring to the days when you’d leave regularly to go for your nightly rest and return later while I was still hanging around TODville; that, plus the fact that you do your own research, keep a good presence on twitter and generally have a finger in every pie. Mostly, if I’m doing one thing, then I’m not doing the other.
Also. Too. It’s wacky, not whacky.
https://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/whacky.html
wimmin/smh.
Too. Also. It’s both whacky and wacky. 😛
I’d rather be wrong than men be right.
wimmin/smh
Seriously – not at all. I just have this thing with spelling where certain words look right/wrong to me. It’s like I consistently and unthinkingly write programme or labour/neighbour, etc. only using the other forms if I make a conscious effort (British schooled, I was). I could also point out that by the very link you shared, you admitted that there were two spellings. 😉 I choose not to throw out the old for the new, because I have an affinity with the old. And for the record, I have no problems with men being right when they are right, just like I have no problems with women being wrong when they are wrong.
AMK perhaps you would appreciate this. 😉
LOL. Thx. Loved the animation.
😀
The Dems needed 24 seats, if they take 11, they will need 13 Seats?
Right?
Not sure which 24 they were counting but 218 is needed for a majority and they have 194 now. 7 more gets them to 201. http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/results/house?gwh=6D69E647CBA31525EBE87D674B9F74A8
Ok. I just heard over and over that we needed 24 seats to retake the House. Guess it was a lot more.
7+17
Yeah but they already picked up 4 before this 7. 🙂 That’s why I said I’m not sure which 24 they were looking at – maybe they assumed they would get these 4 to begin with.
And we lost 16 democratic Seats. Had we defended our seats better?
Look at all that gerrymandering, jovie. We need some serious effing GOTV in 2014, 2016, 2018, 2020, 2022 …. to change that.
Yup!
This is fabulous news, ForUS. I’ve been waiting to hear the results of these contests. All fingers and toes crossed.
That video was really sweet! Our President really has the ‘common’ touch. He is a leader who always seems to know how to put ‘ordinary’ people at ease. God bless you, Mr. President!
The Republicans think they have a mandate for Robneys tax plan-
both our jobs crisis and our debt crisis by focusing on tax reform that strengthens the economy. There is bipartisan support for tax reform that closes loopholes and lowers rates.”
Rep. Tom Price (R-GA): On Fox News Sunday, House Republican Policy Committee Chairman Price, a member of both the Ways and Means and Budget Committees, said “We can increase revenue without increasing the tax rates on anybody in this country.”
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/11/11/1176581/congressional-republicans-compromise-romney-tax/?mobile=wp
Oh boy!
LOL! Guess they’re forgetting about the fact that he and his ideas LOST!
Oh they did not forget, they are con artists.
Posted this at the tail end of the last thread…
Truth behind the Ge. Petraeus story:
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2012/11/petraeus-started-affair-last-year-to-cover-up-benghazi-says-conspiracy-theorist.html?mbid=nl_Borowitz%20(50)
I admit I haven’t read the article, and don’t intend to do so, but why is the New Yorker printing and paying attention to conspiracy theories?
Andy Borowitz writes satire.
It’s a funny article – Andy Borowitz is a satirist. It’s safe to read 🙂
Thanks Mary, thanks Beth!
This is satire Mary. Andy Borowitz writes satire and jokes. He’s a humorist.
I know, my comment was satirical too. I love Andy Borowitz.
A physicist, biologist and a chemist were going to the ocean for the first time.
The physicist saw the ocean and was fascinated by the waves. He said he wanted to do some research on the fluid dynamics of the waves and walked into the ocean. Obviously he was drowned and never returned.
The biologist said he wanted to do research on the flora and fauna inside the ocean and walked inside the ocean. He too, never returned.
The chemist waited for a long time and afterwards, wrote the observation, “The physicist and the biologist are soluble in ocean water”.
Thanks amk for that. I am here preparing notes for my class tomorrow and I needed the light relief.
😀 😀 😀 😀
😀
That was hilarious. I love smart jokes!
A Sunday School teacher asked her class why Joseph and Mary took Jesus with them to Jerusalem.
Little Johnny replied: “They couldn’t get a baby sitter.”
Hmmm…this sounds like bad news for Obama!
Is this the same Little Johnny who reported that Jesus is not a good driver? He seems to be far more aware and with it than Johnnny Boehner.
A man has 6 items in his bathroom: a toothbrush, toothpaste, shaving cream, razor, a bar of Dial soap and a towel from the Holiday Inn.
The average number of items in the typical woman’s bathroom is 437. A man would not be able to identify most of these items.
…..
Ok. gotta go.
I have another one, should I post it ?….. Nah.
LMAO! Why Dial soap? I thought most men preferred Ivory.
picky, picky, picky.
wimmin/smh
LOL! 🙂
I don’t think many stores still sell Ivory or Dial. The only soap I can find for men is Irish Spring or Dove Men + care.
Goood Night ….TOD…
Forward>>>>>>>>
You’re turning in early tonight. Have a good one and see you hopefully in the morrow.
Rest well, pf, knowing that this is YOUR America as much as it is anyone’s!
If Jay cutler throws one more interception, where he air mails it to the third row, I will throw up!
BTW, President Obama has now exceeded GWB’s 2004 popular vote margin and, of course, has trounced GWB’s EV totals from both 2000 & 2004 and appears headed toward a 5 Million votes margin 🙂
Nice. Which site are you monitoring this on?
President Obama currently at 62,088,847 NOW has surpassed Bush’s 2004 total of 62,040,610
http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/main?hpt=hp_inthenews
The wiki site is lagging but ultimately will be very useful
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_presidential_election_results#Results
His most current margin is 3305710
ok thanks! Bookmarked.
and President Obama ACTUALLY won Ohio unlike GWB.
I hate, hate, hate that GW got that much of the popular vote because it was due to fear … he touted 911 and he made America afraid and that is what he ran on! That and the Rovian pot of anti-abortion stew stirred up in Ohio.
God alone knows how many of that so-called “popular vote” in 2004 was stolen by rigged machines, and other Republican thuggery.
I calm myself down over any numbers caused by fear tactics when I think that GW will not be honored in the history books, but President Obama will be receiving admiration, praise, and glory through his entire long life and take up a big chunk of the history books, which will be filled with his accomplishments. And then I go have another heaping bowl of ice cream to celebrate. 🙂
Last chance for my 20 bucks bet for 5 mil EV margin. Any one up to it ?
🙂 Every night you’re here making one bet or the other for 20 bucks. Didn’t you say gunnite since an hr ago? I’m sure Willard…
If it was the bot, the bet would have been 10,000 dollars. 🙂
Lol kept smiling through the video…..but that was a long ass explanation lol Cute how excited she was though 🙂
No shit. It was good but no wonder it took the guy 5 years to propose. 🙂
poor guy finally works up his courage to propose and you laugh.
wimmin/smh.
Love the way the skinny guy was ragging him.
Also. Too. Loved seeing so many yung’uns in that vid.
Perfect and beautiful. Thank you, Smartypants:) MUST READ/ PASS
http://wanderatory.com/2012/11/08/rip-america/
To all who are predicting the imminent doom of our country:
(An open letter.)
You are right. America is done. It would be easy to argue with you, maybe try to calm you in a tender moment of bipartisanship and assure you that the United States of America, as you know it, is safe and sound in the hands of President Obama. But it would also be a lie.
You see, these past four years have been endemic of an America dying and last night’s election was a nail in its coffin. I’ll tell you a damning secret: I fought tooth and nail to kill that America–so reassuring you wouldn’t just be a lie, it would be terribly disingenuous.
Thanks, df!!
Read the post below from Norbrook….excellent as well:)
These ladies did a damn nice job, too! http://3chicspolitico.com/2012/11/11/senator-mitch-mcconnell-speaker-john-boehner-rep-eric-cantor-were-watching-you/
no moss on their rolling stones!!
http://cendax.wordpress.com/2012/11/11/conservatives-reality-is-knocking/
EXCELLENT! By the way……..
“WE’RE AN EMPIRE NOW, AND WHEN WE ACT, WE CREATE OUR OWN REALITY.”
Reality-based community
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The source of the term is a quotation in an October 17, 2004, The New York Times Magazine article by writer Ron Suskind, quoting an unnamed aide to George W. Bush (later attributed to Karl Rove[1]):
The aide said that guys like me were “in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who “believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” … “That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”[2]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality-based_community
David Axelrod, who served as a senior adviser to the Obama campaign, said that going forward he will spend part of his time opening an institute of politics at the University of Chicago, during an appearance on CBS’ “Face the Nation” Sunday.
“My feeling is if I can help inspire some young people to get into this arena, as candidates, as strategists, as journalists, then that would be a great contribution to make,” Axelrod said.
TPM-
Wonderful idea. With his temperament, skills, and smarts, he’ll be a fine DEMOCRATIC mentor at such an institute (as he’s already been, I’m sure, to many).
This bodes well for both Democrats and Republicans. If people can be taught how to present their issues, and debate them and regard politics and government as a vehicle to doing good in the world – then everyone will benefit. This is great!
Congratulations! OK, kids, how many of you played this Shalamar classic on your big day:
Nice song. The person in the middle looks like Jody Watley. Is she her?
It is Jody Watley indeed. 🙂
I’m good. I should run for President. Off to launch my 2016 campaign!
Shalamar – music royalty of the 80’s. I loved (and knew) every hiccup in every song.
Was feeling down cause its gonna rain all day tomorrow and I hate starting the week off with bad weather, but then my spirits were lifted cause I just realized not only do we FOUR MORE YEARS of a President trying to make my life better, but we also get
Another great Inauguration Day (will they have balls again too?), four more years of great Correspondents Dinner speeches, great Christmas Specials for the First Family, vacations in Hawaii, Easters at the White House, Presidential NCAA tournament bracket recommendations, Michelle and Jill PSA for military families, and a whole bunch of other good stuff….the rain will go away, but our President is really here for another for years. REALLY!!! IM SOOO HAPPY!!
That was so nice to read. And think how cheerful you’d be if they were predicting sunshine all day tomorrow. The sky’s the limit! 🙂
Well, no rain forecasted the rest of the week so I’ll be on cloud nine again by Tuesday. 🙂 🙂
I’m very much affected by sunshine, too, so I know how ya feel!
Robin I’ve been thinking the same thing. I’m so ready for four more years sharing all these interesting events with our First Family – don’t forget SOTU address, St. Patrick’s Day, Memorial Day, 4th of July, Halloween, etc.
Thank-you HF. I knew there were many I had forgotten. And we will have new ones this time also. I would LOVE to see pics of Malia going to prom and graduating! Makes me smile just thinking about it.
Every day is going to be a good – great – day for the next four years! I hope as many of us can show up in Washington for the Inauguration.
I echo your sentiment Robin! And don’t forget four more years of Key & Peele presidential addresses!
BTW, in contrast to the R/R campaign, Axe said there were no surprises on election night in an interview with Politico. The results came in within 1/10th of a percentage point of OFA’s polling. That is pretty amazing.
Yes – remember this?
BAM! BAM! BAM! http://www.ericgarland.co/2012/11/09/letter-to-a-future-republican-strategist-regarding-white-people/ ANOTHER must read! Thanks ABL>
Love this letter; thanks for sharing. My friends, co-workers and family members who happen to be white ( I am AA) think as this writer does. Some look at them and assume that they are repubs,, but not after they have gotten told off by very insulted and pissed off strong democratic Obama supporters. PBO looks for we have it common; what dreams and aspirations that we share and how to bring them into reality for the benefit of all. The other side looks for what divides us and aggravates it. They look for small- mindedness, plain old meanness and twist them even more. The America that PBO sees is the one that I want to live in.
Will the MSM ffkknn STOP ANY time soon with: “What do the refuggs need to do to repair their BRAND??” “What do the refuggs need to do to attract latinos, blacks, asians, women, youth, smart people, gays….mmm…..humans???” “The optics???” “TONE. Need to…..mmmm… HONE THEIR TONE?” “What do the refuggs NEED TO DO???” Obvious answer is FUCK THEIR SORRY OLD DELUDED, IGNORANT, CONFUSED DISHONEST SELVES.
But just about nary a word about running against a terrific President, terrific candidate, wonderful person…..marvelous family that’s the epitime of the American Dream.
No. Just endless ” GASP! What happened???”
Assholes. I really can’t stand them.
There is in all of that stupidity at least a small acknowledgement that the Republican party is highly damaged. However, it is not their “brand” that needs to be repaired, as most people do know. It is the entire party that needs to be overhauled…..but it won’t be.
Our excellent Hispanic yardman and his wife…..they work the family business together….came Friday and saw the Obama sign we still have in the window. Gilmer asked “You like Obama?” My husband told him definitely yes. His wife said, I don’t understand why those bankers don’t like him. He saved their banks! They were thrilled that we are Obama fans……They said he has been good for Hispanics, and my husband said “good for all of us.” Nobody fooled them, and “rebranding” is not going to change their vote. They are too smart!!!
Let those talking heads blather on…..they can’t change policy, and they obviously don’t influence voters.
Unless and until the dems develop an effective media strategy, the corporate msm will act as the shills for the thugs.
And when they decide on the reason(s) for the loss (probably during an all-inclusive weekend retreat at one of adelson’s hotels), I hope they file it under 2016 – Reasons For GOP Election Loss, it will save them some grief in the future … LOL LOL. Cuz they will get their rear-ends handed to them again 🙂
Tonight’s menu:
Pollo asado, broiled
Mexican rice
Roasted asparagus
And I’m on my 5th Manhattan. Weeeeeee.
Damn! If I was on my 5th Manhattan that dinner would be Mexican pollo, broiled rice and asado asparagus. 🙂 With Thanksgiving coming up I’m sure you’ve seen this great recipe for cooking the Tom turkey.
How to cook a Turkey
Step 1: Go buy a turkey
Step 2: Take a drink of whiskey
Step 3: Put turkey in the oven
Step 4: Take another 2 drinks of whiskey
Step 5: Set the degree at 375 ovens
Step 6: Take 3 more whiskeys of drink
Step 7: Turn oven the on
Step 8: Take 4 whisks of drinky
Step 9: Turk the bastey
Step 10: Whiskey another bottle of get
Step 11: Stick a turkey in the thermometer
Step 12: Glass yourself o pour of whiskey
Step 13: Bake the whiskey for 4 hours
Step 14: Take the oven out of the turkey
Step 15: Floor the turkey up off of the pick
Step 16: Turk the carvey
Step 17: Get yourself another scottle of botch
Step 18: Tet the sable and pour yourself a glass of turkey
Step 19: Bless the saying, pass and eat out
ROFL!!! Actually, this Turkey day it’s just wifey, me, and Mother, so that may in fact be what happens.
LOL … good thing that you are in the West Coast it’s not too late in the evening to have a few more LL … 🙂
Dinner sounds yummy… 🙂
😀 😀
Worth remembering …
Indeed. Gotta boycott Olive Garden … too. Bob, is there a website that lists these products an adelson’s hotels/resorts?
That didn’t take long ….
http://twitter.com/cgwaldman/statuses/267819361711030272
bbl … time to prepare dinner ….
Good luck citizens of Florida. I still have a hard time figuring out how the clown were ever elected.
Hey, y’all… Just had a read through, missed everything today, but wanted to say goodnight, and Yes, people all around are so relieved, so happy, and feeling safe and optimistic. It’s real. We have work to do, but that’s okay, we like to work! Good Night, sweet dreams! {{{{{Chips}}}}}
{{{{{TOD}}}}}. {{{{{PBO}}}}}
Like before (Jan 2009), will Obama For America (OFA) 2012 Campaign be used to help PBHO ( and, maybe, local/state/federal DEMs) in governin’ this country, again? That question was answered, in the affirmative, here:
OFA 2008/2012 & Beyond…
http://theobamadiary.com/2012/11/09/growing-the-economy/#comment-559769
http://theobamadiary.com/2012/11/09/growing-the-economy/#comment-560071
Just a taste of The Beginning of Organizin’ For America (OFA) 2009—> Unbeknownst to critics and others, PBHO and Team Obama were thinking about how to harnass the momentum of that campaign. How do they build on it? Here’s a sequence of ‘behind-the-scene’ events leading up to it and beyond. Some of us, Ocrats/Obots, probably, weren’t aware of this. Right?
You can find more OFA vid clips, here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/BarackObamadotcom?feature=watch
And, there’s this:
The Return of the Obama Coalition… http://criticalmassprogress.com/2012/11/11/the-return-of-the-obama-coalition/
Enjoy! 😉 🙂
YES.WE.DID, Again!
Press On, #FORWARD 2012 & Beyond, Together!
#TrustBarack, He Has Earned It! (As Bobfr says) 😉
REPUBLICANS AGREE 332 IS A LANDSLIDE
http://crooksandliars.com/bluegal-aka-fran/open-thread-438
Romney never overcame bailout opposition in Ohio
“The biggest determining factor was that we couldn’t handle the automobile bailout issue,” said Bob Bennett, chairman of the Ohio Republican Party.
…The perception of Romney as indifferent to the auto industry’s fate was “a coffin nail,” said John Heitmann, a University of Dayton historian who teaches and writes about the car’s place in American culture.[…]
Exit polls conducted for The Associated Press and television networks found that about 60 percent of voters in both states supported the government’s loan and industry restructuring program, and three-quarters of them backed Obama. The bailout also was popular in Wisconsin, even though it hadn’t stopped GM and Chrysler from closing plants there.
“We have a debt to pay back to President Obama. He saved us,” said Joseph Losier, 33, a fourth-generation autoworker from suburban Detroit. After the bailout, Chrysler hired 500 people at the stamping plant where he works. Even those with no direct connection to the industry were grateful.[…]
The bailout was popular with independents and even some Republicans, and drew support for Obama outside the usual Democratic-leaning areas, said Chris Redfern, chairman of the Ohio Democratic Party.
http://news.yahoo.com/romney-never-overcame-bailout-opposition-ohio-185929937–election.html
It wasn’t just a “perception”. He said, and reiterated, that he didn’t care if the automobile (and manufacturing) industry went background and disappeared from the US landscape. And until they acknowledge that people know the truth, and rejected his plain spoken disdain for workers in America, they will never learn. And the fact that Willard didn’t have the courage to stand behind American workers and a classic American industry means that he does not have, and never will have, what it takes to lead them.
You’re absolutely right Theo. I wanted to highlight that well before Sandy, the key thing is that Romney’s arrogance and callous attitude toward the auto industry lost him Ohio, Michigan and possibly Wisconsin a long time ago. That’s a big deficit that’s not going to be overcome with a hail mary Jeeps-to-China ad or getting a lot of votes southern states with a low Electoral College vote yield.
Just one of several critical mistakes Team Mitt made.
To add insult to injury, Romney had the nerve to show up in Ohio and tell the people attending his rally that the Jeep plant was being closed, and that some of them would lose their jobs, instilling panic in people who had already endured tough economic times. I think this may have caused some people who may have intended to vote for him to vote for PBO. I also think some people would be offended by someone who lied to them to their face, and this is exactly what Romney did. His goose was cooked when GM and Chrysler said that he wasn’t telling the truth, and when the media confirmed it.
Such a cute video!!!
In other news……. My LA GALAXY are up 3-0 in the first leg of the WESTERN CONFERENCE FINAL!!! *IF* we end next Saturday’s game against Seattle with more aggregate goals, WE are in the MLS CUP FINAL (again.)
And if Houston (up 3-1 vs DC United) end up with the most aggregate goals in their game against DC on Saturday, then the MLS CUP will be BACK IN LOS ANGELES!!!
ZOMFGWOOOOOOOOOT!
*fingerscrossssed!*
http://twitter.com/stewbert/statuses/267874964324098048
Why?
Chips, hope you are able to cache these items before they are deleted …
http://gregmitchellwriter.blogspot.com/2012/11/karl-and-paula.html
Anyone reading this and having a Twitter account, please RT those Tweets!
#FORWARD
https://twitter.com/Our4thEstate/status/267899086101946368
So very ironic … posted on 5 Nov 2012 when they knew they were both busted …
https://twitter.com/paulabroadwell/status/265410894572425217
And …
“General David Petraeus’s Rules for Living
5. We all will make mistakes. The key is to recognize them and admit them, to learn from them, and to take off the rear view mirrors—drive on and avoid making them again.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/11/04/general-david-petraeus-s-rules-for-living.html
I already considered it probable that they all thought that the President would be defeated and this scandal would be covered up. Now, it seems even more probable.
That is it! I kept wondering why those 2 Repub members of Congress kept this info on the down low——-especially if they thought there was any way they could connect it to or hurt Obama right before the election. Protecting their future presidential candidate?
That’s exactly what they were doing, dotster.
Good one.
I agree amk. I thought I could watch Morning Joe today. But I had to turn him off. They are really trying to tie the Petraeus email thing to PBO and Benghazi. Its sickening! That seems to be the story of the day for the MSM. I may have to have another self imposed MSM blackout day.
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Joe Scarborough had his on scandal while in office so he needs to shut up.
I haven’t watched msnbc for awhile now and get most of my media from the Internet. They are really all shitty and republican cheerleaders.
Remember that joe is a republiturd so don’t be surprised he too had an affair with his secretary who died in mysterious secretary.
Circumstances i meant! Lol
It is clear that Morning Joke and the Republicans are trying to use this Petraeus affair to damage the administration, maybe they feel it will make them feel alittle better after getting their butt kick 332-206. They thought they were going to steal this election, they thought their hate were going to will Mitt to a win. And the were wrong.
Now they want to use something that was a affair, and nothing more and try to tie what happen in Lybia to it.
“What policymakers believe to have taken place in any particular case is what matters – more than what actually occurred.” David Petraeus, 1987 Princeton dissertation. Could any statement be more cynical?
Good Morning Everyone. . .
Its so difficult when you TRY not be a cheerleader or a doting supporter of the President. You say to yourself that the issues are the most important . . . we want to move forward, etc. etc. and THEN you see the a video such as this… the warmth, care, laughter, interest. This is the leader of the free world and he is listening to how someone got engaged. How can you not love him?
Bobfr, on Friday night I had posted this comment after checking Paula Broadwell’s Twitter feed and followees, because I felt she was hobnobbing mostly with some unsavory Repub characters:
http://theobamadiary.com/2012/11/09/chat-away-74/#comment-560034
Today Show in its infinite wisdom, and in what has to be a Big Joke, invites Mankini to appear and give his pearls of wisdom on mistresses and affairs.
Wow.
And what I learned from reading WP story—–Petraeus gave prominent members of conservative think tanks permanent office space in his compound—–(and Paula Broadwell) and that Petraeus had a staff member assigned to provide fresh sliced pineapple for him before bedtime.
Great article by Frank Rich http://nymag.com/news/frank-rich/gop-denial-2012-11/
Fantasyland
Denial has poisoned the GOP and threatens the rest of the country too. all politicians lie…but Romney’s record was exceptional by any standard … total of 917 reached a crescendo … accusing Chrysler of planning to ship American jobs to China … his flip flops phenomenal … jello-like bio (Bain, Olympics, one term disowned public service, Olympics, churchgoing, tax returns) … has human touch like an ATM …yet 57 million Americans voted for him.
At the policy level … GOP denies climate change … rejects Keynesian economics … identifies voter fraud where there is none. At the loony-tunes level … birthers, websites purporting that Obama was lying about Osama bin Laden’s death, and not one but two (failed) senatorial candidates who redefined rape in defiance of medical science and simple common sense. It’s the GOP that demands the rewriting of history …
it may be the wholesale denial of reality by the opposition and its fellow travelers that is the biggest obstacle to our country moving forward under a much-empowered Barack Obama in his second term. If truth can’t command a mandate, no one can.
Mooooooooorning everyone:
http://theobamadiary.com/2012/11/12/rise-and-shine-348/