Heads Up: President Obama speaking on economy

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381 Responses to “Heads Up: President Obama speaking on economy”

  1. November 9, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    Just waiting for POTUS.

  2. 4 japa21
    November 9, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    just missed

  3. November 9, 2012 at 12:45 pm

    I can’t believe my slow Mac put me first.

  4. 8 PoliticalJunkessa
    November 9, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    Looking forward to my President gettin’ his Second-Term Swag on today! 😀

  5. November 9, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    What is we these ReThugs thinking that they are in a better negotiating position than President Obama.

    • November 9, 2012 at 12:47 pm

      Should say `What is with………`

    • November 9, 2012 at 12:49 pm

      Forget them, we are still here.

    • November 9, 2012 at 2:58 pm

      Trying to make their base believe they weren’t defeated in a landslide, and trying to bluff the general population into fear so we will all pressure the Democrats to cave. They have learned all the wrong lessons from this election. And they really have few options at this point. None of the groups they offended will believe them if they turn on a dime and start supporting their issues, so if they piss off the tea party people they have no one.

  6. November 9, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    I went back to get the bloggers who were left behind.

  7. 15 vcprezofan2
    November 9, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    Hey Sonja, did you save any space up there? I’m a wee bit off course as per usual, but I see I made it back in good time.

  8. 20 Dakota
    November 9, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    Good Morning from New Mexico! I’m feeling great today and looking forward to hearing our magnificient President speak!

  9. November 9, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    Please excuse my posting this one additional time, but would really appreciate all of you encouraging the Obama Administration to realize the powerful opportunity all of #PBO’s Twitter followers could contribute to driving information, advocacy, and support for the President’s legislative, judicial and philosophical agenda during the next 4 years, 2 months 🙂 Specifcally …

    Urge the President to leverage his now > 23 Million Twitter followers … just imagine the ‘twitter bombs’ he could instigate, i.e., “call to action #s’ … unprecedented participatory democracy and a force no member of either the House or Senate has ever experienced. And, we have power lobbyists don’t because we’ve proven just how much $ we can drive into a campaign and how many folk we can mobilize to VOTE. Lobbyists may have $$ but each of them and those that pay their salaries still have ONLY ONE VOTE, each 🙂

    And, by leveraging twitter he completely bypass the MSN, connects directly with 23+M supporters, and can have those supporters target not just Congress but the MSN itself – as we already do, but in a much more laser focused effort to expose their duplicity and incompetence.


  10. 28 yardarm756
    November 9, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    A little chuckle before the speech.
    The Skill of a Linguist~~~

    No dictionary has been able to adequately explain the difference
    between COMPLETE and FINISHED. However, in a recent linguistic
    conference held in London, England, and attended by some of the best
    linguists in the world: Samsundar Balgobin, a Guyanese, was the clear
    His final challenge was this: Some say there is no difference between
    COMPLETE and FINISHED. Please explain the difference between COMPLETE
    and FINISHED in a way that is easy to understand.

    Here is his astute answer:
    “When you marry the right woman, you are COMPLETE. But, when you marry
    the wrong woman, you are FINISHED. And when the right one catches you
    with the wrong one, you are COMPLETELY FINISHED!”

    His answer was received with a standing ovation lasting over 5 minutes
    and it entitled him to receive an invitation to dine with the Queen,
    who invited him after the contest. He won a trip to travel
    around the world in style and a case of 25 year old Eldorado rum for
    his answer ~~~

    • 30 jacquelineoboomer
      November 9, 2012 at 1:29 pm

      Well, now I feel COMPLETE. Thank you for sharing, YA! 🙂

      Oh, my, the President was his usual “every word you’re saying makes sense to me, Mr. President” remarkable leader. No sunshiny, pie-in-the-sky words from him. All business. The American public elected us for action not politics. Yes, sir, you know we did.

      And then, for my dear visiting toddler’s sake since he blew the President a kiss and said “O-ba-ma” in his sweet voice, and FOR SOME FOLLOW-ON POLITICAL ANALYSIS, I turned to our never-ending supply of recorded episodes of Spongebob Squarepants. And now I’ll sit back and enjoy what ol’ Bob has to say about our American life, vice hearing Tweety or one of the cartoon figures on MSNBC.

    • 31 susanne
      November 9, 2012 at 2:42 pm

      another example: the vote counting is complete, and robmey is finished!

  11. 33 hopefruit2
    November 9, 2012 at 1:04 pm

  12. 51 hopefruit2
    November 9, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    My President looks good today! Emerges at Podium to thunderous applause and cheers!!

  13. 52 dudette9t9
    November 9, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    Sure looks good seeing him behind that podium in the White House!

  14. 55 dudette9t9
    November 9, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    You tell ’em Mr. President!!

  15. 56 yardarm756
    November 9, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    The line is in the sand!

  16. 58 Bill R.
    November 9, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    Breaking- President Obama puts Boehner and GOP in the box of their own making:

    • 59 Ladyhawke
      November 9, 2012 at 1:29 pm

      WOW, I was out of my seat when PBO essentially said that we could take care of tax cuts for everyone under $250K right now if Speaker Boehner would take action in the House of Representatives.

  17. 60 yardarm756
    November 9, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    Well there it is. The bullshit is over. Compromise has got to be on the table!

  18. 61 vcprezofan2
    November 9, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    There you go Boehner, in case you had forgotten what the President, and the democratic, position was!

  19. November 9, 2012 at 1:20 pm

    POTUS isn’t playing. AND NEITHER ARE WE.

  20. 65 debz
    November 9, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    Hopefully they will force the Orange Man to bring the jobs act up for a vote. Since POTUS made it clear that it already passed the Senate the whole thing is on Boehner. He deserves it!

  21. 67 dudette9t9
    November 9, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    I say what I mean and I mean what I say! 🙂

  22. 71 Bill R.
    November 9, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    Memo to the chattering class and GOP: PBO states the facts!

  23. 72 Bill R.
    November 9, 2012 at 1:23 pm

  24. 80 anniebella
    November 9, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    Hay stuck up crazy ass Republicans I hope you heard the President of the United States.

  25. 81 prettyfoot58
    November 9, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    • November 9, 2012 at 1:35 pm

      Letting y’all know I’ve already acted. I called my three reps this morning and did my line in the sand. I also told the aide that if I don’t see that my three TN reps are working WITH this administration, the office will be getting at least one call a week from me. When I called Corker’s office, I also added that the ONLY way I will ever have a sliver of respect for him is if he publically apologizes to the citizens of TN, as well as the rest of the country, about his part in the meeting of Jan. 20, 2009.

      • 83 dudette9t9
        November 9, 2012 at 1:37 pm

        {{{{{ tnmtngirl}}}} Power Princess!!!

      • November 9, 2012 at 1:37 pm

        ” I also added that the ONLY way I will ever have a sliver of respect for him is if he publically apologizes to the citizens of TN, as well as the rest of the country, about his part in the meeting of Jan. 20, 2009.”

        Yes. Excellent. Letting them know, in no uncertain terms, we the people are fully aware of their plot against the President and the Nation.

        Keep at it!!!

      • 85 Asher in Boston
        November 9, 2012 at 1:47 pm

        Great. You go girl. Tell it.

      • 86 prettyfoot58
        November 9, 2012 at 1:54 pm

        that is a great idea…start now and put pressure on our elected officials…esp regarding the bill that the Senate passed regarding middle class tax cuts….

  26. 87 yardarm756
    November 9, 2012 at 1:32 pm

    Now the butt hole on MSNBC are salivating over this Benghazi piece. To hell with the economy I guess. Let’s worry about the new cabinet members. sheesh!

    • 88 hopefruit2
      November 9, 2012 at 1:37 pm

      Mitchell is so desperate to attack this President that she immediately pivoted to this Benghazi nonsense and had her panel of ignorant half-baked overpaid entitled morons like Matthews to go after the President.

      • 89 japa21
        November 9, 2012 at 1:39 pm

        What is the Benghazi thing they are talking about now?

        • 90 hopefruit2
          November 9, 2012 at 1:51 pm

          It’s hard to make sense of what they’re really saying because they are mixing all kinds of issues, Obama’s relationship with Patreaus, whether or not he met with Patreaus yesterday or whether he will meet with him today, the CIA, Whether or not Susan Rice will stay on or will she be promoted to SOS.

          Just a whole bunch of nonsense without saying anything informative or substantive. This media is 100% corrupt.

      • 91 yardarm756
        November 9, 2012 at 1:42 pm

        While ‘Boner’ and his boys are off in a corner trying to decipher what was said.

      • 94 anniebella
        November 9, 2012 at 1:44 pm

        That is why I listen to the President on my computer, then I came to Obama Diary to read some comments. I refuse to listen to those jackasses on MSNBC, TeaNN, Fox , or any of those other cable pundits. So what is the Benghazi ? What is going on with that? Anything new.

  27. November 9, 2012 at 1:33 pm

  28. 96 hopefruit2
    November 9, 2012 at 1:35 pm

    This is how I feel about Chris Matthews:

  29. 106 Don
    November 9, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    Chris Matthews is back to his old bullshit about President Obama needing to become pals with the
    Republicans. Does Chris not know that President Obama was reelected, I mean really? Lady Greenspan and the rest of these fuckers are so stupid and mean.

    • 107 Ladyhawke
      November 9, 2012 at 1:48 pm

      Why can’t these pols just do their freaking jobs. Why does President Obama have to play golf with them and schooze to get anything done. This is infuriating. Right now the Wall Street folks are upset because President Obama hurt their feelwings. Cry me a river already. PBO saved their arses and now they are making money hand over fist and they don’t like the words PBO used to describe their unethical behavior that resulted in the meltdown of 2008.

      • 108 prettyfoot58
        November 9, 2012 at 1:50 pm

        yanno…tweety is on this rant…about how the President is a family man but that he needs to smooooze more with the fellas….and not sure what he wants the President to do with the women…

        • 109 57andfemale
          November 9, 2012 at 2:10 pm

          He’s living in the 60’s, where the tradition of back slapping was the key to success for all politicians.

          Matthews is probably my age (I’m 62). He has no right to demand that politics be the way he remembers it two generations ago any more than Republicans who try to take us back to the 1950’s.

          He has become unwatchable. His political discourse is bi-polar and even if you agree with him half the time, he’s ceased being relevant because the mood swings are just too much to process.

          • 110 Obama Grandmama
            November 9, 2012 at 5:36 pm

            I heard somewhere that life in DC has changed a lot over the years. Now when the work week is shorter most legislators go home right away instead of hanging around DC. They do not have the time they once had to play golf or hang out after working hours. The person talking about it said it really changed how things work in government. He also mentioned the lines drawn in states’ boundaries to elect representatives favoring the candidates of the party in charge at the time of the redrawn boundaries (after census).

            • 111 57andfemale
              November 10, 2012 at 9:25 am

              The acrimony in DC is directly traced back to Newt Gingrich. It was him and him alone who decided that it should more resemble a war than governance. he set the tone, he set the rules. Interestingly, he was one of the last to ‘negotiate’ behind closed doors with the ‘enemy’: impeachment trial of Bill Clinton during the morning and ‘negotiating’ the destruction of our banking regulations in the afternoon.

    • 112 anniebella
      November 9, 2012 at 1:48 pm

      How the heck are you going to come friends with someone who don’t want to be friends with you? To compromise it takes two. And you don’t have to be best buddies with someone to do the right thing.

    • 113 theo67
      November 9, 2012 at 5:17 pm

      The GOP plotted on Day One to overthrow President Obama’s administration for political purposes. They also mischaracterized the President’s agenda with lies and misled the American public – terrifying them. They’re lucky not to be indicted for treason. And after the crap they did these past four years during times of serious, global. depression-era crises, they should be grovelling at President Obama’s feet. And instead, they have come out of the gate talking about themselves being a “firewall” against President Obama’s agenda, which he has now earned the right – twice – to implement. Chris Matthews needs to… I can’t even find the right words.

  30. November 9, 2012 at 1:45 pm

  31. 115 hopefruit2
    November 9, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    I know some people here like Chris Matthews, but let me tell you that his brand of racism is worse than that of the loony FOX NEWS cult. He had the audacity to say that Obama should have Romney as his Treasury secretary – in all seriousness…while attacking Obama’s administration as being the “weakest cabinet” He needs to know that his episodes of going after

    Then he launched into some diatribe about Obama not bringing his party together, etc, rehashing the President’s Tuesday speech where he didn’t thank Clinton, etc.

    I have long looked at MSNBC with a jaundiced eye, but today their nasty vitriolic disrespect towards our President was on FULL display. Not one criticism of John Boehner. Not one criticism of the lazy Republicans in the house & senate who take half the year off while obstructing the President’s policies. Why was Andrea Mitchell “bigging” up that loser Scott Brown – who got soundly defeated by Elizabeth Warren?

    • 116 anniebella
      November 9, 2012 at 1:52 pm

      It is clear Chris Matthews has some mental issues, why would President Obama put a bold face flip flopping racists liar as his treasury secretary? No more Matthews for me for awhile.

      • 117 hopefruit2
        November 9, 2012 at 2:00 pm

        The President coming out on the podium to a standing ovation, followed by a solid decisive statement about plans to reduce the deficit, freaked out these fools on MSNBC.
        They are SCARED..hence their catty, rude reactions. Right now they see Obama as the enemy and are operating accordingly. Tweety would have loved a Romney Presidency (despite his pretenses otherwise), and he made that clear today.

    • 118 Lovepolitics2008
      November 9, 2012 at 2:25 pm

      Did he REALLY say that Romney should be the Treasury secretary ?????!!!!!!!!! Ok that’s it the man needs psychiatric help.

      • 119 hopefruit2
        November 9, 2012 at 2:27 pm

        That’s what blew my mind. Romney’s name should not have featured anywhere in Matthews’ analyses of this tax cut/deficit reduction issue.

      • 120 dotster3
        November 9, 2012 at 3:38 pm

        Toure said the same thing yesterday—-an msnbc push? I give up on our news media—-completely.

      • 121 Obama Grandmama
        November 9, 2012 at 5:42 pm

        After all the ending talks about Romney’s dishonesty he would think we need him to help? I don’t want Romney anywhere near anything having to do with running our country. The things that came out all added up to not being able to trust Romney.

    • 122 No Child Left Behind
      November 9, 2012 at 2:36 pm

      Chris Matthews is bipolar. He is not consistent. He needs Obamacare, a good plan that covers all his pre-existing conditions.

    • 123 nathkatun7
      November 9, 2012 at 5:12 pm

      Who the f**k elected Chris Matthews President?

  32. 124 prettyfoot58
    November 9, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    I know that GOP maintained control of the House …but how many seats did the Dems get….

  33. 132 bizgirl
    November 9, 2012 at 1:53 pm

    Cant wait to hear the president speak. I feel good today and want to thank Chip for this wonderful place of support for our President. Amazing coverage leading into the final days of the campaign. I just kept your page up and refreshed often. Kept me on top of everything. Many thanks.

    A little victory moment – “Express Yourself”

  34. 136 Bill R.
    November 9, 2012 at 1:57 pm

    Note to any concern trolls:

  35. 137 utaustinliberal
    November 9, 2012 at 1:59 pm

    C-SPAN One will carry Jay Carney’s press briefing LIVE and online. Can’t wait to see him smile/smirk/ at the moronic “reporters” who called the election WRONG.


  36. 141 dudette9t9
    November 9, 2012 at 2:01 pm

  37. November 9, 2012 at 2:04 pm

    @hardball_chris I think you began to realize how much of a damn fool your sound like in making suggestions of what PBO should do.

  38. 146 prettyfoot58
    November 9, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    wonder what the first question will be…

  39. November 9, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    Made a suggestion, upthread, about how all us @BarackObama twitter followers could be a force for change.

    Here’s a simple example:


    November 9, 2012 at 2:18 pm


  41. 156 utaustinliberal
    November 9, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    Pres. Obama will travel to the NY area next thursday to view Hurricane Sandy relief efforts and visit affected families.

  42. 157 Melanie
    November 9, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    PBO coming to NY Thurs. to support those of us affected by the Sandy and the N’oreaster. Will be great to have him here. His support will certainly add some cheer to what has been a hellish couple of weeks.

  43. November 9, 2012 at 2:25 pm

    Honestly, I don’t know how Jay puts up with the idiots who ask questions. I’d be so tempted to call them out for asking stupid questions, being ignorant, pandering within the Faux echo chamber and being unprofessional. He’s an absolute saint.

    • 165 lisalovesobama
      November 9, 2012 at 2:27 pm

      i know! But certainly hope he stays till 2017. Love his sexy behind! Was he traveling with PBO on the campaign trail? Didn’t see him.

  44. 168 utaustinliberal
    November 9, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    Carney says POTUS will veto any bill that contains a tax cut for the wealthy and that Tim Geithner has agreed to stay on until Pres. Obama’s inauguration next year.

  45. 170 donna dem 4 obama
    November 9, 2012 at 2:29 pm

    In case you missed it.

    Pres. Obama Announces Plans to Address Economy and “Fiscal Cliff”


  46. 171 lisalovesobama
    November 9, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    hahahhaha!! Jake Tapper’s feathers are ruffled!! asked if PBO has a disdain for the WHPC!!!!!! 😆 😆 hahahahhahah!!!

  47. 173 dudette9t9
    November 9, 2012 at 2:30 pm

  48. 174 lisalovesobama
    November 9, 2012 at 2:31 pm

    hahahhahahhahha!!! 😆 Tapper is such a bitch! hahahhahahhahahhahahhahahahahhaha!!! 😆 😆

  49. 175 utaustinliberal
    November 9, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    White house press corps is whining about Pres. Obama not giving a press conference sine June. Duh….he was running for reelection and gave multiple interviews to many of them sitting in that room and national TV stations.

    Jake Tapper wants to know if Pres. Obama has disdain for the press corps. Short Answer: FUCK YEAH.

  50. 185 yardarm756
    November 9, 2012 at 2:33 pm

    Jake Tapper is the consummate anal orifice.

  51. 192 lisalovesobama
    November 9, 2012 at 2:34 pm

    Tapper is mad and bringing up Benghazi. Ha! Fricking ass.

  52. 193 xtine
    November 9, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    [P.M. Carpenter is have a great afternoon re: pressers]:

    President Obama reaffirmed his commitment to fiscal balance while splendidly applying some intense heat on the GOP House. He said he was open to “compromise” and “new ideas”–two concepts vigorously rejected by tiresome tea partiers–and he reiterated the electorate’s recent demand: “cooperation, consensus, and common sense.” You will note in this C triad the pregnant omission of John Boehner’s “common ground,” which has become famously synonymous with GOP entrenchment.

    Perhaps the highlight of Obama’s news conference was his repetition of “I will not, will not” reduce the deficit the Republican way, and by that he meant, of course, piling more burdens on the backs of those least able to bear the load. Obama’s kicker, the highlight of the highlight: The electorate just ratified this choice. A delicious moment.

    What’s more, Obama reminded that electorate that Damocles’ sword awaits us. Congress can do nothing, and watch everyone’s taxes go up, or it can follow the dictates of Election Day and simply reimpose Clinton’s rate on upper-income taxpayers. This, Obama more than merely implied, is the House GOP’s choice.

    So do get back to us, won’t you, dear Republicans?


    • 194 xtine
      November 9, 2012 at 2:37 pm

      [PM on Boner, same link]:

      Condensed version:

      Speaker Boehner said the president must lead–meaning do things the Republican way–and that the GOP is perfectly willing to settle on “common ground,” as long as it doesn’t entail compromise.

      Boehner, though, seemed unsteady. Perhaps that’s only wishful thinking on my part. But to me it sounded as though Boehner was merely throwing out a pro forma, initial bargaining chip, with a face value of approximately zero–and he knew it. President Obama cannot conceivably retreat from his pre-election position of an end to the upper-end Bush tax cuts, which, statutorily, is coming anyway.

      True, most Republicans cannot retreat from their defense of them, but Boehner–and maybe a handful of partisan colleagues?–likely comprehend that they lost and Obama won the election.

  53. 195 lisalovesobama
    November 9, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    WHPC ask all the same questions: why isn’t PBO out here answering our questions. Because, bitches! He’s got better things to do than entertaining you’re stupid butts.

  54. 196 utaustinliberal
    November 9, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    Jake Tapper demands Carney release a tick tock of where Pres. Obama was during the Benghazi attacks. Carney pretty much told Tapper we’ve been transparent and released everything we know and we’ll comply with the investigation and Tapper kept nagging at him. Carney repeated what he said and then Tapper kept mumbling. Carney just ignored him and moved on. Shorter Carney: Who the f**k are you?

  55. 197 prettyfoot58
    November 9, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    i love how PBO has checked the HOUSE….saying that the Senate has passed the Bill to prevent a tax increase for the Middle Class…that is now up to House….YOUR MOVE….

  56. 198 lisalovesobama
    November 9, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    Ed Henry and Benghazi. Ha! Said FAUX News wants to interview PBO too since Brian Williams got a chance to do so. hahahhahahhahhahha!!!

  57. 199 prettyfoot58
    November 9, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    the press corp is very petty

  58. 200 utaustinliberal
    November 9, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    Ed Henry begged Carney for Pres. Obama to do an interview with Fox News. Carney just smiled and moved on.

  59. 201 lisalovesobama
    November 9, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    Ed Henry: how comes the campaign got to film PBO crying but WHPC didn’t get to do that?
    Jay: well, he wasn’t talking about Benghazi or the fiscal cliff, this was about the kids he was thanking.

  60. 202 lisalovesobama
    November 9, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    Idiot “journo”: if you are going to reform the tax code, why separate the Bush tax cuts for the middle class and the rich?—— idiot GOP response.

  61. 204 yardarm756
    November 9, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    I quit. The presser front row acts like there was no election at all. I see nothing that’s informative. Just a bunch of wounded little egos!

    • 205 Ladyhawke
      November 9, 2012 at 2:53 pm

      I don’t know how Jay stands the jackals. They are insufferable.

    • 207 whatisworking
      November 9, 2012 at 3:35 pm

      Don’t Quit – TAKE ACTION.

      Now that we have all had a day or 2 to rest I am hoping I can encourage everyone here at the blog to to work as a team to support the President’s agenda for the next 4 years.

      The operative word here is work, as in taking actions that make a difference.

      He just gave a great speech.

      We can either post lots of comments complaining about the Press Corp and speculating on how Boehner will react or….

      We can call our congressional representative and tell them we agree with the President and want to see compromise and common sense. We want Congress to pass a tax cut for the 98%.

      I have a web page with contact info for Congress, please keep me busy by posting updates and revisions here.


      We can also contact Boehner @SpeakerBoehner email http://boehner.house.gov/contact/ (202) 225-6205

      When we see a tweet that supports the President we can retweet it.

      We can post our support on Facebook.

      If a petition is started we sign it and pass it on to others.

      Having spent the past month gearing up my OFA team to get out the vote, this seems like a relatively simple task to do the items listed above.

      We did not win the election by complaining – we won it by taking action. Let’s keep that up and see where it takes us.

      One final comment, I meant no offense to yardarm. I watched a small portion of the press conference and share your disgust. I just used your post to illustrate a point. My comment is based on the Presidents comment of dont BOO – VOTE

      We get to decide how much time (and blog posts) we spend complaining and how much effort we put into taking actions that support the President.

      As I hang up my “neighborhood team leader” name tag, I have to tell you. Doing something that makes a difference feels wonderful.

      Let’s do a little of that everyday…….

      • November 9, 2012 at 5:19 pm

        Thanks Linda. I agree. I commend you on your practical focus on action. Your site is fantastic. One approach could be to target individual Republicans that may break away from their lockstep voting and appeal to their common sense. Not sure how many you need for majority and also who could be swayed, perhaps Murkowski, McCain, Boehner…

      • 209 jackiegrumbacher
        November 9, 2012 at 5:45 pm

        Great point, Linda. We won’t have OFA to egg on us everyday, so we have to be our own self-motivators. That’s the beauty of this community. When one of us gets distracted, another can get us back on track. Thanks.

      • 210 yardarm756
        November 9, 2012 at 6:00 pm

        Thanks for the pep talk. When I said “I quit”, I meant those senseless pressers. I plan on spend a lot of phone time to let certain pols how I feel. Oh, make no mistake, I’m still in the fight!

  62. 211 Melanie
    November 9, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    Listening to this presser, it’s clear the WHPC doesn’t realize how irrelevant they’re becoming. We don’t need you; we have youtube!!

  63. 212 prettyfoot58
    November 9, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    MSNBC….has announced that Gen Patreas has submitted his letter of resgination…Oooooooooo weeeeee….

  64. 218 lisalovesobama
    November 9, 2012 at 2:55 pm

    Somebody just said that Patraeus resigned. Jay said that he’ll let Patraeus talk about that and that he’s sure PBO will have something to say about that later.

    • 219 hopefruit2
      November 9, 2012 at 3:00 pm

      He had an extramarital affair. He’s resigning. The media is salivating for a “scandal” and are desperately trying to make this the scandal of the century. Many men in high office have affairs. Some of them resign. Others don’t. That is not a national emergency. And it certainly is no where near the astounding electoral defeat that Romney, Rove, Koch, Wall St, and the corporate media suffered earlier this week.

  65. 228 hopefruit2
    November 9, 2012 at 2:55 pm

    Andrea Mitchell is obsessed with Patreaus’ relationship with PBO. She so wants to make this about President Obama and nothing else.

  66. 233 dudette9t9
    November 9, 2012 at 2:57 pm

  67. 236 jacquelineoboomer
    November 9, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    Wow – CIA Director Petraeus resigns due to extra-marital affair. (Ya know, I’m so glad it wasn’t due to incompetence or a falling out of grace with the President. I know that’s self-serving relating to Democrats, but really it serves the President better that there be no administration-related problems, and we don’t get to hear negatives as PBO gets ready to take on his second term.)

  68. 239 Melanie
    November 9, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    Turn on CNN. They are reporting Petraeus resigned due to extramarital affair. Geez…

  69. 240 desertflower
    November 9, 2012 at 2:58 pm


    thinkprogress BREAKING: Petraeus resigns as head of CIA, cites extra-marital affair (via @NBCNews)
    4 minutes ago · reply · retweet · favorite

  70. November 9, 2012 at 3:00 pm

  71. 244 Melanie
    November 9, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    Poor Jay. Can’t beleive this breaks in the middle of his presser!!

    • 245 Ladyhawke
      November 9, 2012 at 3:01 pm

      I know, the jackals are obnoxious. It’s really disgusting. I am so sorry that Jay has to deal with them.

      • 246 COS
        November 9, 2012 at 3:06 pm

        He said he was not going to discuss personnel matters, yet they keep asking the same questions over and over. They are worse than kids.

    • November 9, 2012 at 3:02 pm

      I assure you, Melanie, he knew it was coming.

    • 248 hopefruit2
      November 9, 2012 at 3:08 pm

      Melanie, this is not breaking news. I knew about this affair well before the election. Jay Carney knew about it as well. Patraeus simply officially resigned today – but that’s probably because the President asked him to.

      The MSM is making this into a much bigger deal than it is. Don’t let yourself be manipulated by them in that way. Romney’s utter defeat earlier this week is of far bigger consequence than a powerful man having an extramarital affair. Ask Bill Clinton.

      • 249 Melanie
        November 9, 2012 at 3:21 pm

        Hopefruit, this IS breaking news. Just because you knew it, doesn’t mean millions of others did. I know there was stuff floating around on the Drudge Report, etc. but there were no specifics. He is the head of the freaking CIA; it’s a big deal. Don’t worry about me being manipulated. My mind is not weak. Let’s not pretend this is not a story. Everything is not the media’s fault.

        • 250 hopefruit2
          November 9, 2012 at 3:25 pm

          News of Patraeus’ extramarital affair was on Twitter – which is how I found out. I don’t have any private knowledge of what’s going on in PBO’s cabinet. People were not paying attention because they were distracted by the looming election. Furthermore, the MSM were not prepared to make a big deal of it because they were hoping that Romney would win anyway.

          His resignation today is what is new – like I said, it’s NOT a big deal – ask Bill Clinton. 20 years from now we are not going to be talking about Patraeus’s extramarital affair anymore than we are dwelling on Clinton’s affair with Lewinsky in the ’90s.

          • 251 Melanie
            November 9, 2012 at 3:45 pm

            It IS a big deal right now. Who in the heck is thinking about 20 years from now? Unless there’s more to come, it may not even be a big deal in couple of days. Right now it is a story and it is not inappropriate for the media to cover it.

            • 252 hopefruit2
              November 9, 2012 at 4:00 pm

              By all accounts and from the same MSM, Patraeus was expected to resign from his CIA position at some point in the near future to possibly pursue a WH bid for 2016. President Obama, I’m sure had expectations that he would be dealing with a lot of new cabinet appointments at the beginning of his 2nd term, and prepared accordingly. Obama is rarely off-guard about things like that.

              Yet you are feeding into the foolish MSM narrative by insinuating that “poor” Carney was caught completely unawares of this “breaking news.” and you’re doubling down on the nonsense after not just I, but Bobfr pushed back on this narrative.

              The MSM is pushing a gossipy, snarky angle because they’re still hurting from the utter defeat on Tuesday, and need to “get back” at Obama in some way. That has been their usual approach with this President.

              Yet you are feeding into the foolish MSM narrative by insinuating that “poor” Carney was caught completely unaware of this “breaking news”

              • 253 Melanie
                November 9, 2012 at 5:10 pm

                Feeding into the mainstream narrative?? You are so far gone. There are 2 stories. One that he resigned and two from a sex scandal. Millions of Americans didn’t know. It’s a big story. Get over it and move on. Period.

                • 254 hopefruit2
                  November 9, 2012 at 5:11 pm

                  Glad to see you’re taking my advice. 🙂

                  • 255 Melanie
                    November 9, 2012 at 6:01 pm

                    Stop obsessing over the media. They are not going anywhere. If you don’t agree with them, ignore them. BTW Bob has just posted an update on this not so big story on the next thread:))

                    • 256 Melanie
                      November 9, 2012 at 6:03 pm

                      Oh look. Rev. Al is leading off his show with the not so big story. Breaking News.

                    • 257 hopefruit2
                      November 9, 2012 at 6:06 pm

                      It’s not your place to tell me what I should and shouldn’t ignore. The media is the main platform by which information about current events gets disseminated, and they have an ethical, professional and moral obligation to report the facts, and not mislead the public for their personal agendas. They are not doing their jobs, and I will say it as long as I need to. The media as it is is a menace to society and a danger to democracy.

                      And your comment about “poor” Carney was not based on news about FBI issue – it was based on limited information about Patraeus’ resignation. Stop mixing issues.

        • 258 hopefruit2
          November 9, 2012 at 3:34 pm

          President Obama just released a statement. He probably had this statement written up since last week (or the week before). However, he had an election to win – which he did. That’s the BIGGER DEAL here. Had Obama lost the election, Patraeus’ resignation would be a footnote in the back pages of the daily paper.

        • 259 nathkatun7
          November 9, 2012 at 5:37 pm

          Patraeus had an affair. He has resigned. Yes he is the head of CIA. But what does his affair, other tantalizing gossip, have to do with President Obama? I am sorry I am with hopefruit2. This is a useless sensational story that has very little to do with government or governing. This is a private matter. Unless, of course, Patraeus had an affair with a woman, or man, who was connected with the terrorists who killed our ambassador in Libya.

  72. 260 dudette9t9
    November 9, 2012 at 3:00 pm

  73. 261 utaustinliberal
    November 9, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    David Petraeus offered his resignation to Pres. Obama yesterday afternoon because he had an extra-marital affair and has to work things out with his wife of over 30 years, Holly Petraeus. He said Pres. Obama accepted his resignation after he explained he needed to be let go for personal reasons.

    • 262 nathkatun7
      November 9, 2012 at 5:45 pm

      UT, I think this should have been the end of story! I don’t know about any one else but I do not care to dwell on private personal issues. Men and women have been having affairs from time immemorial. Right now, Petraeus’ family needs space and privacy to solve their situation. What would have been a story is if the Gen. resigned over issues related to his official duties.

  74. November 9, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    ARGH, twitter is broken.

    • 264 utaustinliberal
      November 9, 2012 at 3:08 pm

      Thank goodness. It’s not just me.

      • November 9, 2012 at 3:10 pm

        Well, I was stoked that they appeared to get the posting / refreshing thing solved but now this. That must be a monster of a fat client piece of software for their servers on their end.

        • 266 utaustinliberal
          November 9, 2012 at 3:11 pm

          The posting/refreshing thing is fixed for me only if I tweet a new comment not if I reply to someone else’s tweet. Now this. Sigh. They need to get better techies and fix this.

  75. 267 utaustinliberal
    November 9, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    Is anyone having weird problems with twitter? Are you only seeing your tweets and no one else’s new tweets?

  76. 273 prettyfoot58
    November 9, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    the press always says that they ask questions for the American People….i do not think that we would ask the questions that they ask

  77. 274 utaustinliberal
    November 9, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    On Wednesday Pres. Obama will hold a press conference.

  78. 275 xtine
    November 9, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    [DOOD!!! 🙂 ]

    3:02PM EST November 9. 2012 – NBC reported Friday that CIA director David Petraeus has resigned from the CIA, citing an extramarital affair.

    NBC’s Andrea Mitchell said the resignation was submitted in a letter dated Friday and was accepted by the White House.

    In a letter, Petraeus noted that he had been married for 37 years and had exercised “extremely poor judgment’ in conducting an extramarital affair.

    Petraues took over as head of the CIA in September of 2011 following his tour as head of allied forces in Afghanistan.


  79. November 9, 2012 at 3:08 pm


  80. 284 hopefruit2
    November 9, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    Now MSNBC’s narrative is that PBO’s cabinet is in turmoil because so many people are leaving. Trust the media to try to turn a positve for PBO into a negative.

    ALL administrations undergo change after a significant election. That is par for the course. My advice to anyone here is to simply not allow the media to pull your strings with their bullshit. They are mighty pissed off that their golden boy LOST soundly, and their pre-cooked narratives associated with an Obama loss or narrow win have had to be scrapped. So now their latching on to this CIA/Benghazi issue is their desperation speaking.

    • November 9, 2012 at 3:31 pm

      The US media has lost the last shred of credibility after this election. While they laugh at FOX for the state of disarray – the rest of the media was quite happy to further the lies from FOX and engage in this horse race nonsense. They shouldn’t be laughing quite so loudly. They did a great disservice to the public, and have done so through out any Democratic president’s administration for the past several decades, as well as furthering the propaganda from the right that lied this country into debt and into war. I’m done with the media, apart from getting headlines that I can investigate. They are pathetic and useless.

    • November 9, 2012 at 3:37 pm

      They are trying to distract him from the Fiscal cliff negotiations, and trying to weaken Him.
      Everything to republicans is tax cuts, that is all they care about, will use anything to get them, even this stuff about Petreas!

    • 288 nathkatun7
      November 9, 2012 at 5:54 pm

      We need to launch a massive pushback against MSM! They know they failed to unseat the President, so, they are now launching a malicious campaign to undermine him before he has even been sworn in for a second term. These people are evil.

      • 289 hopefruit2
        November 9, 2012 at 5:57 pm

        You’re so right Nathkatun7. That’s why I get doubly ticked off when people come here pushing the very MSM angles we’re trying to guard against.

  81. 290 dudette9t9
    November 9, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    OFF-TOPIC: HUNK ALERT! (sorry fellas)

    Javier Bardem gets Hollywood star

    Academy award-winning actor Javier Bardem has received a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Bardem, who plays villain Silva in the latest Bond movie Skyfall, was joined by his female co-stars Naomie Harris and Berenice Marlohe.

    “It’s too soon for me,” he said, “But it’s a great honour to receive it.” Skyfall opens in US theatres on Friday, after becoming the highest-grossing 007 film in the UK to date, with box office takings of more than £57m in 12 days.

    “I grew up in a family of filmmakers and actors dating back, back, back to the earliest days of Spanish cinema,” he said. “And I’ve been lucky enough to work as a professional actor for 25 years. I share this honour with all the amazing directors in Spain and out of Spain who took a chance on me.”

    Bardem received a best supporting actor Oscar for his role in the Coen brothers film No Country for Old Men in 2008. He has also received two further nominations for best actor, in 2001 (for Before Night Falls) and 2011 (for Biutiful). [more in the article]

  82. 293 utaustinliberal
    November 9, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    Pres. Obama has released a statement accepting Petraeus’s resignation.

  83. 294 squarepeg
    November 9, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    • 295 Ladyhawke
      November 9, 2012 at 3:32 pm

      There’s no rest for the weary. Our energizer bunny President Obama just keeps going and going and going.

  84. 296 utaustinliberal
    November 9, 2012 at 3:26 pm



    • 297 4morefor44
      November 9, 2012 at 3:36 pm

      good. the more bush people we get out of government, the better. it’ll be interesting to see who president obama pushes for that job. by the way, have they reported if david patreaus’s affair was with a man or woman….just curious…

  85. 298 utaustinliberal
    November 9, 2012 at 3:29 pm

  86. 306 donna dem 4 obama
    November 9, 2012 at 3:31 pm

  87. 313 kasai
    November 9, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    Kid reacts to President Obama win:-)

  88. 320 Bill R.
    November 9, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    I’m terribly sorry to hear about Petraeus. He has been decent and honorable in public service. I hope he and his wife work things out.

    • 321 japa21
      November 9, 2012 at 3:50 pm

      Yes he has. And the mere fact that PBO selected him for an important position gives you a sense for what kind of person he is. PBO bases his selections on quality and character.

    • 322 nathkatun7
      November 9, 2012 at 6:00 pm

      Well said Bill! Now I hope the media will allow the Gen. some privacy to work out this difficult situation with his wife and his family.

  89. 324 dudette9t9
    November 9, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    • 325 nathkatun7
      November 10, 2012 at 1:59 am

      Allen “Wack Job” West needs to wake up and smell the Coffee! It’s so sad that this man is pissing on the graves of all the people who sacrificed so much to make it possible for him to vote and run for office.

  90. 326 susanne
    November 9, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    allen west is a reminder that the rethugs lost their elections tuesday because their candidates were horrible AND because they have an evil campaign in charge of electing the fools. it was both. the silly argument over whose fault it was is just more rethug smokescreen: their whole operation is wrong for america, from the candidates, to the message, to the methods they employ, to their funding sources. all of it.

  91. November 9, 2012 at 3:51 pm

  92. 328 prettyfoot58
    November 9, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    lawddddd….The Supreme Court….

    will hear challenge of Voting Rights Act…

    in light of the Voter Intimidation and Voter Suppression….

    mercy mercy mercy

    • 329 susanne
      November 9, 2012 at 4:07 pm

      btw, prettyfoot, i read recently that the supreme’s will probably push a bunch of right wing agendas through before pbo gets a chance to appoint new justices and shift the balance back to moderation. this announcement about the voting rights act is a signal, i suspect, that they will indeed hit as hard as they can, while they can.

      • 330 prettyfoot58
        November 9, 2012 at 4:13 pm

        hmmm…we shall see,,,,never expected it to go well with ACA ….but it did…what they do with Affirmative Action will say where this is going…

        hmmm…we shall see,,,,never expected it to go well with ACA ….but it did…what they do with Affirmative Action will say where this is going…

  93. 331 prettyfoot58
    November 9, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    The South…is not changed…The GOP….has proven that…

    • 332 susanne
      November 9, 2012 at 4:00 pm

      ‘ The Obama administration aggressively used Section 5 during this year’s election season to challenge restrictions on voting passed by Republican-led legislatures. The states said the changes were meant to combat voter impersonation fraud or make Election Day easier on election officials.

      Courts generally backed the administration. Federal judges blocked new voter-ID laws in South Carolina and Texas for the election and forced officials in Florida to ease planned restrictions on early voting, which has become an important tool for Democrats in increasing African American turnout. ‘


      • 333 susanne
        November 9, 2012 at 4:03 pm

        shoot–sorry, link is not correct. i’m having trouble with links lately. is it just me, or are the newpages blocking these link-posts?

  94. 334 xtine
    November 9, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    Photos from Dublin’s election night festivities, Cousin Henry was there too:


  95. 338 jeff
    November 9, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    I loved Rachel Maddows segment where she pointed out that when republicans pick women candidates how they still vote for the democrat whose male. It seems like the republicans believe that if they just pick a minority or a woman that some how these groups will run to the their candidate. Maddow was spot on when it comes to this.

    • November 9, 2012 at 4:05 pm

      I was glad to see that Mia Love lost her campaign, Jeff, because, imo, even though she was a Black and is female, she would not have done a thing for women. She would have been another Marsha Blackburn/Michelle Bachmann.

      • 340 jeff
        November 9, 2012 at 4:08 pm

        I think it’s funny though that a democrat beat Mia Love so handily in the ruby red state of Utah. You have to admit there was some almost racial here!

        I’m not sure about this democrat either way, the guy seemed highly conservative almost dixiecrat like.

        • November 9, 2012 at 4:15 pm

          Yes, I’ve read that he is more Blue Dog than true dem. My former dem rep here in Middle GA was the same way. After he voted against HCR, he lost his seat in 2010. I’m really hoping someone will step up to run against Austin Scott, the republican who replaced him. Personally, I just didn’t want to see the Utah seat occupied by a republican because, iirc, I’d read that he was the only dem member in Congress from Utah.

        • 343 dotster3
          November 9, 2012 at 4:20 pm

          She is not just conservative but ultra-conservative on all issues——tea party supported. Likely too far out there even for Utah. I’m sure the Dem seemed more moderate in comparison. All need to be judged by the content of their character.

          • 344 jeff
            November 9, 2012 at 4:22 pm

            I’m not convinced that’s why she lost. Time will tell if this guy will be a good congressman or not. Remember at one time Utah did not accept blacks in their church.

            • 345 susanne
              November 9, 2012 at 4:37 pm

              jeff, we know you mean to write, ‘ the mormons did not accept…’. fortunately, utah and the l.d.s. church are not entirely the same organization!

            • 346 donna dem 4 obama
              November 9, 2012 at 4:44 pm

              Jim Matheson is already a US Representative for the 2nd district in Utah. He’s a Blue Dog which is to be expected since he is from Utah. He was re-districted to the 4th District where he beat out Mia Love (thank goodness).

    November 9, 2012 at 3:58 pm


  97. November 9, 2012 at 4:03 pm

  98. 355 dudette9t9
    November 9, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    If anybody thought for a second that TeaNN would stop with the partisan bullshit coverage after the election, peep this headline:
    “Obama calls on House to pass tax hikes for wealthy”

    Funny, I thought the bill was to extend tax CUTS for the middle class, but the headline focus on shit that’s not actually IN the bill.

  99. 358 xtine
    November 9, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    [This is interesting …]:

    “…But Obama administration officials tell the Back Channel that there are several reasons Kerry may have to cool his heels a while–having nothing to do with Kerry not being held in high esteem by the White House. Among them:

    1) Secretary Clinton, who met with Obama and Vice President Biden at the White House Friday, feels an obligation to see the Benghazi investigation through and not leave any taint from that investigation to be faced by her successor. This could have her staying on til February or March, one administration source, who requested anonymity, told Al-Monitor Friday.

    2) Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has told the White House that he will be “furious” if he loses Kerry from the Senate, to leave the Massachusetts Democratic Senate seat facing Republican Scott Brown with millions of dollars in the bank left over from his unsuccessful Senate race against Democrat Elizabeth Warren. The White House may feel especially obliged to listen to Reid, because he is a key reason the Democrats held onto their Senate majority, and because “they have to keep Reid happy as a clam” on the fiscal cliff negotiations, the official said. (Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick and his wife are due to have a ‘social’ dinner with President and Michelle Obama at the White House Friday night. But while some thought Patrick might be in position to run against Brown if a Kerry nomination leaves the Senate seat open, other sources say Patrick has his eye on the AG job.)

    3) While there are important constituencies in and out of his administration pushing for Kerry, including reportedly Vice President Biden, Kerry’s predecessor as chair of the Senate Foreign Relations panel, “Obama loves” Susan Rice, his US Ambassador to the United Nations, the official noted. If Clinton stays on through the Benghazi investigation, that may blunt and defuse Congressional Republican wrath (and political opportunism) over the administration’s handling of the Benghazi attacks that has heretofore targeted Rice, among others, and that has raised concerns about whether a Rice confirmation hearing would become a huge, ugly partisan food fight.

    4) A Kerry departure from the Senate would leave New Jersey Democratic Senator Robert Menendez first in line to assume the chairmanship of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee—and the White House has a lot of problems with Menendez on foreign policy issues, administration sources said. On Cuba, Iran sanctions (Menendez has sponsored hawkish Iran sanctions legislation that has limited the administration’s negotiating options), Turkey (Menendez has championed efforts for an Armenia genocide resolution, that has riled Turkey), Iraq, “Menendez doesn’t play ball and has been a huge thorn” in their side, the official said.

    Lots more here: http://backchannel.al-monitor.com/index.php/2012/11/3126/why-john-kerry-may-have-to-cool-his-heels-on-secretary-of-state/#more-3126

  100. 369 lisalovesobama
    November 9, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    Can’t watch martin because a bunch of gossip hacks are on yacking about extra marital affairs. Idiots! 🙄

    • November 9, 2012 at 4:20 pm

      It shows how much they prefer to focus on nonsense, LLO. Everything boils down to a “blow” against the Obama Administration. If this were really the case, the Obama Administration would have failed a long time ago, especially if one thinks of how much republicans have held up PBO’s appointees across the board. What I have loved and admired about the president is his resourcefulness. Even though the republicans have been asses about his appointees, he uses the talent he has at these agencies and still makes them look bad.

      • 371 hopefruit2
        November 9, 2012 at 4:35 pm

        “Everything boils down to a “blow” against the Obama Administration.”

        There you have it. That’s the underlying message in all MSM reports of any current event remotely or closely associated with Pres Obama.

  101. 372 forus50
    November 9, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    Wow, we are back to FULL METAL PUNDITRY here. I guess making up for the 3 week moratorium?

  102. 373 dudette9t9
    November 9, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    • 374 susanne
      November 9, 2012 at 4:35 pm

      love this part: ‘Leebens-Mack was joined in his advocacy of a Charles Darwin write-in by Atlanta syndicated radio host Neil Boortz, who said that Broun is bad for Republicans in general because he makes the Party “look like knee-dragging, still-tending, tobacco-spitting Neanderthals.” ‘

      oh, really? ‘look like’?

      Raw Story (http://s.tt/1sNCP)

  103. 375 dudette9t9
    November 9, 2012 at 4:21 pm

  104. 376 dotster3
    November 9, 2012 at 4:49 pm

  105. November 9, 2012 at 4:53 pm

  106. November 9, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    OK, so Ashley Judd has not ruled out running against The Turtle. I believe she will. Her activism has kicked up and she is being talked about in these circles. The good news is that Mitch McConnell’s approval rating in Kentucky is hovering around 37/50. Ashley also completed an MPA from the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University in 2010. I hope she jumps in sometime in the not-too-distant future.

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