‘A Big Storm Requires Big Government’

Residents in New Orleans signal for help from a roof-top after Hurricane Katrina hit

NYT Editorial: A Big Storm Requires Big Government

… Disaster coordination is one of the most vital functions of “big government,” which is why Mitt Romney wants to eliminate it….

…. FEMA, created by President Jimmy Carter, was elevated to cabinet rank in the Bill Clinton administration, but was then demoted by President George W. Bush, who neglected it, subsumed it into the Department of Homeland Security, and placed it in the control of political hacks. The disaster of Hurricane Katrina was just waiting to happen.

The agency was put back in working order by President Obama, but ideology still blinds Republicans to its value. Many don’t like the idea of free aid for poor people, or they think people should pay for their bad decisions, which this week includes living on the East Coast.

Over the last two years, Congressional Republicans have forced a 43 percent reduction in the primary FEMA grants that pay for disaster preparedness ….

….. Those in Hurricane Sandy’s path are fortunate that, for now, [Romney’s] ideology has not replaced sound policy.

Full editorial here

184 Responses to “‘A Big Storm Requires Big Government’”

  1. 1 theo67
    October 29, 2012 at 11:40 pm

    Jarring image from the past.

  2. 6 Proud Former White House Intern
    October 29, 2012 at 11:40 pm


  3. 7 dudette9t9
    October 29, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    Any Manhattan TODers who can help…

  4. October 29, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    Obligatory Rasmussen mockery:

    • 11 anniebella
      October 30, 2012 at 9:33 am

      What do we expect from Rasmussen Republican? The truth. That’s like saying we expect the truth from Mitt Romney.

  5. 12 dudette9t9
    October 29, 2012 at 11:45 pm

    Be careful if you have to wade through high water…

  6. 13 dudette9t9
    October 29, 2012 at 11:46 pm

  7. 16 dudette9t9
    October 29, 2012 at 11:47 pm

    Good point here:

  8. 17 dudette9t9
    October 29, 2012 at 11:50 pm

    Wow! Watch, both of these…

  9. 18 Pamela
    October 29, 2012 at 11:51 pm

    G’nite y’all. I’m done. Blessings and prayers for protection. {{{{LDS}}}} {{{{Chips}}}} {{{{TOD}}}} {{{{{{{PBO}}}}}}}

  10. 19 ourmanflint
    October 29, 2012 at 11:52 pm

    Good night everyone. Hope and pray that you are all safe. Especially those the path of the storm. Power out me along with several thousand in Toronto Thanks for everything Chips.

    • 20 theo67
      October 30, 2012 at 1:55 am

      Yup – the storm is already making an impact in Toronto with heavy wind and rain. My family is stocking up.

  11. 21 dudette9t9
    October 29, 2012 at 11:58 pm

    Endorsement of PBO from Susan Eisenhower (granddaughter of President Eisenhower)

    Four years ago, I left the Republican Party of which I was a lifelong member and became an independent. Not long after, I supported Barack Obama in the 2008 election for president. I made this decision determined to look at the issues not as a Republican or a Democrat, but as an American.

    It is through that lens that I consider my choice in the 2012 election. Like many other voters who crossed party lines to vote for Barack Obama in the last election, I have watched the 2012 campaign carefully and listened closely to what the candidates have said. I believe that President Obama should be re-elected.

    Very few American presidents have been truly prepared to assume that job. Four years ago, Obama, a relatively inexperienced public servant, became the 44th President of the United States during one of the most difficult times our country has faced. The nation’s economy was on the brink of collapse. Our image overseas was tarnished, and our military was bogged down in two unpopular wars. I supported Obama then because I thought that he was unflappable. I saw him as a man with a keen intellect and a cool analytical head. I believed he would also be able to inspire those who had suffered most from a recession unparalleled since the Great Depression. In doing so, I reasoned, he would go a long way towards reuniting a nation deeply divided.

    Obama was elected and took office, building on a number of stabilization programs initiated by the Bush administration. He took many other vital steps that reestablished our economic footing, including saving America’s automobile industry.

    In the last four years, and despite the global downturn, America has come back from the brink. While pain is still being felt in far too many sectors of the economy, from a macroeconomic standpoint the situation in the United States is better than it is among our allies. According to the International Monetary Fund, today the United States is poised for 3 percent growth, which would make our economy the strongest of the other richest economies, including Canada and Germany. Other influential studies, cited in a recent column by Fareed Zakaria, show that debt in the U.S. financial sector, relative to GDP, has declined to levels not seen since before the 2000 bubble. And consumer confidence is now at its highest levels since September 2007. The housing market is also slowly coming back. While there is still an enormous amount to do to assure a recovery, the president deserves credit for a steady hand during this dangerous and unpredictable time.

    In the last four years, President Obama has also had to contend with a rapidly changing international environment. He ended the war in Iraq, was the first Democratic president to ratify an arms control treaty with the Russian Federation, and rallied global leaders to put nuclear security at the top of the international agenda. The Obama Administration has also been responsible for decimating the top leadership of al-Qaeda and introducing biting sanctions on Iran. Today the president has significant experience in managing foreign relations, experience that GOP candidate Mitt Romney and his running mate, Paul Ryan, do not have.

    As a result of this campaign I am more confused than ever about what Mitt Romney stands for. I know little of his core beliefs, if he even has any. No one seems to agree on what they are, and that’s why I do not want to take a chance on finding out… [more in the article]

  12. 24 cman
    October 30, 2012 at 12:06 am

    Bringing over from last thread. Face of building coming off.

    • 25 amk for obama
      October 30, 2012 at 12:33 am

      Just watch the firefighters rushing into the building immediately after the collapse. 0.57 mark. Amazing people.

  13. 26 jeff
    October 30, 2012 at 12:07 am

    My dad has been living here for a couple of weeks. He’s watching Fox News and I am getting a little annoyed by it to say the least. He’s a chronic alcoholic that voted for Bush TWICE.

    • October 30, 2012 at 12:10 am

      Your house, your rules. I’ve methodically gone through all the religious channels on my TV, as well as Fox News, and blocked them.

    • 31 desertflower
      October 30, 2012 at 12:11 am

      😦 Your house, your rules. No FOX. Detox. Don’t want to sound like I’m making light of this….I really mean it. Hope he gets the help he needs.

      • 32 jeff
        October 30, 2012 at 12:12 am

        my dad get help? Nope still drinks like a fish. I just cant wait till he gets out of here.

        • 33 desertflower
          October 30, 2012 at 12:14 am

          Find him a detox place to get into, ASAP. Unless he’s clean and sober, he can’t stay with you. Tough love is hard…you may just save his life.

          • 34 jeff
            October 30, 2012 at 12:23 am

            He’s been this way for over thirty years.

            I cant believe he’s still alive and kicking! He also smokes.

            • 35 desertflower
              October 30, 2012 at 12:32 am

              House rules……

            • 36 Mae who love our CIC
              October 30, 2012 at 8:13 am

              I know your dad has a few problems but, I want you to love him and respect him as best as you can. It seems like he is hurting and don’t know how to help himself. Even in all of your dad’s misery it is you that he has turned to. Thanks for not rejecting him. Love him the best way possible. You will be blessed. Obviously you are a good son, still a spot of love resides in your heart.

  14. 37 Ladyhawke
    October 30, 2012 at 12:10 am

    Disastrous Response: Romney Campaign Billiing Campaign Events as “Storm Relief” Efforts

    This is truly disgusting. As Americans on the east coast are battling to stay safe (and in some cases, alive) in the midst of post-tropical cyclone Sandy, Mitt Romney can’t be bothered to hold off campaigning. His campaign first told us that he’s canceling events tomorrow, but then, they told us, nevermind. Oh, and this time, they are going to insult everybody’s intelligence by holding events in Ohio and Wisconsin, and labeling them ‘storm relief.’


    • 38 jeff
      October 30, 2012 at 12:14 am

      I couldn’t resist chuckling in disbelief. Romney is like one of those evil villains I’d read in fantasy novels that would make me laugh because they were so incredibly evil.

    • 40 nathkatun7
      October 30, 2012 at 4:50 am

      Amazing! What’s wrong with half of the American people who take these despicable men seriously? Now they are trying to exploit this storm. I am so distressed about this storm because many in my family are on the East Coast (NY, NJ, DC, MA, and MD).

  15. October 30, 2012 at 12:11 am

    WHOAAAAAA, whoa, whoa. I just saw a Romney ad here in San Francisco. WTH is Romney doing wasting his money on CALIFORNIA?????

  16. 44 dudette9t9
    October 30, 2012 at 12:12 am

  17. 45 desertflower
    October 30, 2012 at 12:16 am

    I made that Rolling Stone photo my wallpaper…..rather, my daughter did it for me:) It’s quite nice:)

  18. October 30, 2012 at 12:20 am

    Assuming everything goes as planned next week, here’s my tweet for, oh, 9 pm PST:

    “Obama wins WH. Dems hold Senate. Dems retake House. Somalia about to get a Randian colony.”

  19. October 30, 2012 at 12:22 am

    That is an excellent editorial. I liked the following comment that described Romney as a Wizard of Oz character.

    • 56 99ts
      October 30, 2012 at 1:23 am

      I liked the comment that referred to Mitt’s changing views – “I might have been born at night, but it wasn’t last night”. The way I have heard this “I didn’t come down in the last shower”. Not everyone forgets what Mitt said yesterday, last week, last year, last election.

      And many many “keep safes” to those in the storm’s path.

  20. 57 vcprezofan2
    October 30, 2012 at 12:23 am

    Toddling off now, TODobots. Hey Amk, have a good morning! 😆 Those of you in the east, try and have some rest in between everything else.

  21. October 30, 2012 at 12:34 am

    Because, well, just because.

  22. 66 desertflower
    October 30, 2012 at 12:36 am

    Night all…was up at all hours of the night last night…brain refused to shut off….seems to do that a lot lately and now I’m exhausted. Have to get up in the middle of the night and take my husband to the airport…NOLA bound. Chilling seeing that picture in the post knowing he’s going there tomorrow….east coasters…stay safe.

    • 67 theo67
      October 30, 2012 at 2:08 am

      Yup – I haven’t slept more than three hours for several days now. I’ll sleep well on Wednesday next week (after the celebrating).

  23. 68 Tally
    October 30, 2012 at 12:51 am

    so… okay…. send it “back to the states.” I’m okay with that as long as my state gets to keep ALL of our tax money, and we stop paying for the rocks and coyote red states to have a better standard of living that those of us who are paying for their nice roads, etc…

    In the long run, those red states would see massive depopulation eventually since most of them have tornadoes, flooding, wildfires, drought, and all manner of BAD.

    But of course, the GOP are the first in line for disaster relief, like Gov Christie today.

    Fucking hypocrites.

  24. 70 Tally
    October 30, 2012 at 12:51 am

  25. October 30, 2012 at 1:00 am

    All right all, time for me to hit the hay. See youse on the flip side.

  26. October 30, 2012 at 1:13 am

    President George HW Bush and President Clinton have developed a respectful relationship. Romney is so despicable and of such deep harm to the Republican Party perhaps President Clinton can convince 41 to do what is morally and patriotically right …

    No harm in making the request – perhaps much good …


  27. October 30, 2012 at 1:17 am

  28. 83 dudette9t9
    October 30, 2012 at 1:18 am

    Just watched Tom Hanks on Craig Ferguson, doing an impromptu James Bond villain bit. Comedy Gold!!! 😀

  29. 84 dudette9t9
    October 30, 2012 at 1:22 am

    Just gotta say it… Corey Booker is a frickin’ amazing mayor !

    Btw, I know this neighborhood in Newark — my cousin used to live two blocks away. Lots of big beautiful old, but dangerous in a storm trees. Hope everyone’s okay.

  30. 88 dudette9t9
    October 30, 2012 at 1:32 am


  31. 89 dudette9t9
    October 30, 2012 at 1:36 am

    Woot! O-H-I-O!

  32. October 30, 2012 at 1:53 am

  33. October 30, 2012 at 2:03 am

  34. 93 dudette9t9
    October 30, 2012 at 2:04 am

    • 94 HZ
      October 30, 2012 at 2:45 am

      Creator, please surround with clamness, grace, and comfort to all those who have been touched by Sandy this day. Watch over the little ones who do not understand; comfort the seniors who have no one; hug tightly the homeless brought into the shelters also;, surround with loving hands the ones who bring food to the mouths of those who can’t lift their hands; hug the First Responders with your Arms of Warmth; embrace the hearts of each neighbor within the communities of each state to reach out in love to others; safely keep our streets from any more harm; and we give thee thanks.

      And above all, we humbly ask dear Creator, for your wisdom to be given to our beautiful president, and his entire team during these times. Hold his heart full with love and calmness each moment of his days to come as he deals with each aspect of this storm; give him rest, give him physical strength; give him a steady hand in each decision that he will make tonight and the days to come; and may we all remember to say a prayer, a moment of meditation, a voice of encouragement for each of our families who are in the path of Sandy. We humbly, and lovingly lift up this request for those we love so much. We light our candles until our families can relight their homes and businesses. Keep us calm, rest your comforting spirit within our hearts and minds and please give President Obama, FLOTUS, VPOTUS and the entire team wisdom and peace.

  35. 99 57andfemale
    October 30, 2012 at 2:18 am

  36. October 30, 2012 at 2:19 am

  37. 101 dudette9t9
    October 30, 2012 at 2:20 am

    Well whadduyaknow… Gramps Grassley figures he can pre-empt the delay that’s likely due to Sandy with some political B.S. Despicable bastard!

  38. 102 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    October 30, 2012 at 2:22 am

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  40. October 30, 2012 at 2:40 am

    • 105 HZ
      October 30, 2012 at 2:52 am

      Chips and Bobfr, thanks for all that you do for all of us. (((((((((( Hugs with much love))))))))))))) and a goodnight to my TOD family. I love you all so much. I am going to be just fine. We still have work to do, and we will finish the job.

      I sign out before I turn 68. (((((((((((((((((((Love you all.))))))))))))))))))HZ

  41. 111 Bill R.
    October 30, 2012 at 3:37 am

    Huffpost and Dkos off the air…… interesting.

  42. 117 squarepeg
    October 30, 2012 at 4:17 am

  43. 118 squarepeg
    October 30, 2012 at 4:18 am

  44. October 30, 2012 at 6:35 am

    Politico quoting Gallup, no party has advantage in early voting.
    Good old Gallup, heavily skewed toward Republican prospects.

  45. 121 amk for obama
    October 30, 2012 at 6:40 am

    Watching BBC. Looks like NYC is hit pretty bad. Any TOD’ers from there ?

  46. 128 prettyfoot58
    October 30, 2012 at 6:48 am

    Gooood Morning…everyone….

    i hope everyone is ok….

  47. 131 amk for obama
    October 30, 2012 at 7:08 am

  48. 132 utaustinliberal
    October 30, 2012 at 7:19 am

  49. 133 lisalovesobama
    October 30, 2012 at 7:30 am

    Everybody okay?

  50. October 30, 2012 at 7:35 am

    Everybody is abusing Nate Silver this morning.
    No- it’s Tied up, give Him a call, didn’t he get the memo?

  51. October 30, 2012 at 7:39 am

    To TOD Family here on the East Coast just outside of Richmond,VA Can Tell you as a old Trucker who has seen a lot this storm SANDY really raised HELL But have no fear Our President Obama is on the job 24/7 you all would be surprise the amount of emergency equipment that is lined up along I-95 ready to go. They even have some of our vacant trucks lined up for use if need be.I know of a lot of trucking companies ready for loading if need be for supplies to travel where needed.SO FOR EVERYONE WHO WORRIES REMEMBER AS THE SAYING GOES CHILL THE HELL OUT OUR PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS GOT THIS! ALSO If Our President can tell the world in advance that if I have actionable information I will take out Osama Bin Laden out and he did SANDY the Storm and got nothing on him. Because as He says Obama cares and covers all pre-existing conditions,and he sure as HELL does not have no Damn Romnesa and the country can see we a Real Leader lead.SO STAY FIRED UP READY TO GO WE HAVE GOT HIS BACK ALL THE WAY TO 4 MORE FOR 44!! So to all hang tough and it will be all right and don’t let the Talking Heads get to you.

  52. 141 amk for obama
    October 30, 2012 at 7:42 am

  53. 143 dudette9t9
    October 30, 2012 at 7:45 am

  54. 147 dudette9t9
    October 30, 2012 at 7:53 am

  55. 148 desertflower
    October 30, 2012 at 7:54 am

    Weather Channel says nearly 8 million w/o power.

  56. 154 dudette9t9
    October 30, 2012 at 8:03 am

  57. 155 dudette9t9
    October 30, 2012 at 8:04 am

  58. 156 desertflower
    October 30, 2012 at 8:05 am

    I have an idea. Maybe we can put veterans and those out of a job to work with this clean up. All hands on deck…then we can send the bill to the states, because, you know, they seem to hate that “big, bad, Federal govt”….

  59. 157 dudette9t9
    October 30, 2012 at 8:06 am

  60. 159 dudette9t9
    October 30, 2012 at 8:18 am

    • 160 99ts
      October 30, 2012 at 8:56 am

      He agrees with PBO – it seems crazy to be talking politics when 8 million have no power – don’t remember any politics chat after 9/11

      Then again – don’t think he cares too much for Mitt.

  61. 161 hopefruit2
    October 30, 2012 at 8:18 am

    The worst of the storm is over for MD, and thankfully I still have power (although the lights went out briefly for a couple occasions last night). Some parts of MD did lose power but not to the same extent as the Tri-state area. Hope everyone else in Sandy’s path continue to be safe.

  62. 163 hopefruit2
    October 30, 2012 at 8:18 am

    • 164 dotster3
      October 30, 2012 at 8:29 am

      Those polls don’t calm my nerves. But then I remind myself they’re all suspect—-as Pew reported a 9% response rate. What truth can be gleaned from such a tiny slice of the electorate? Others have to have a similar response percentage. Not trustworthy.

      • 165 hopefruit2
        October 30, 2012 at 8:35 am

        Real Clear Politics is a conservative pollster owned by Steve Forbes. They use mostly RW polling in their estimates and have been known to drop polls that give PBO a big lead. So if even they are showing PBO up then that suggests that his actual lead is wider.

      • 166 dudette9t9
        October 30, 2012 at 8:39 am

        Exactly why I’m trying to ignore all polls positive or negative. Too much of a roller coaster. Not worth the headache.

      • 167 amk for obama
        October 30, 2012 at 8:48 am

        I am with you. Screw those polls and their 24×7 yanking our chains with questionable polling tactics and polling pool.

  63. 168 donna
    October 30, 2012 at 8:22 am


    Saying that Flip Flopping would help Romney if he is POTUS on Morning Joe. It doesn’t get more ridiculous than this.

  64. 170 forus50
    October 30, 2012 at 8:28 am

    Good Morning everyone,
    So it looks like the advance preparation and evacuations made a big difference to deal with this monster of all monsters storm. It’s not over yet…

    I saw these tweets last night about how much the pollsters underestimated POTUS support in swing states in 2008. You gotta see this! Crazy, I didn’t recall that they were predicting McCain in Florida. Seems CNN and PPP were the most accurate. Click on this link and look at his last 5-10 tweets from last night.


  65. 171 hopefruit2
    October 30, 2012 at 8:28 am

  66. 172 dotster3
    October 30, 2012 at 8:43 am

    President Obama worked on Sandy response through the night. Heard Christie say he got a call from Obama at midnight and then a call back about some concern at 2:00 a.m.

  67. 173 donna dem 4 obama
    October 30, 2012 at 8:46 am

    Good Morning TOD. Power has been restored and the worse seems to have past here in the DMV area.

  68. 176 dudette9t9
    October 30, 2012 at 8:49 am

    Good News from SCOTUS:
    U.S. Supreme Court declines to review Oklahoma personhood decision

  69. 177 squarepeg
    October 30, 2012 at 8:51 am

    I remember the devastation, tragedy and heartbreak of Katrina. I remember the arrogant complete disinterest of Bush. Obama has not been like that, at all. I am so glad he is president right now. If my late mother were here, she would be glad too. We can not let those two monsters Romney and Ryan into office.

  70. 178 dotster3
    October 30, 2012 at 8:51 am

    I would think this would be getting more attention, but then…….not shocked any more by all the startling issues that the MSM chooses to ignore these days.

  71. 181 squarepeg
    October 30, 2012 at 8:53 am

  72. 183 dudette9t9
    October 30, 2012 at 8:54 am

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