Rise and Shine


Today (all times ET):

10:10: President Obama delivers remarks at a campaign event at Delray Beach, Florida

11:0: VP Biden delivers remarks at a campaign event on the campus of the University of Toledo, Ohio

3:50: The President and VP Biden hold a rally at Triangle Park in Dayton, Ohio




NYT Editorial: Mitt Romney has nothing really coherent or substantive to say about domestic policy, but at least he can sound energetic and confident about it. On foreign policy, the subject of Monday night’s final presidential debate, he had little coherent to say and often sounded completely lost. That’s because he has no original ideas of substance on most world issues, including Syria, Iran and Afghanistan.

…. At his worst, Mr. Romney sounded like a beauty pageant contestant groping for an answer to the final question. “We want a peaceful planet,” he said. “We want people to be able to enjoy their lives and know they’re going to have a bright and prosperous future and not be at war.”

…. Mr. Romney’s problem is that he does not actually have any real ideas on foreign policy beyond what President Obama has already done, or plans to do…

…. Mr. Romney’s closing statement summed it all up. He said almost nothing about foreign policy. He moved back to his comfort zone: cheerfully delivered disinformation about domestic policy.

Full editorial here



Steve Benen: The Blowout in Boca …. CBS polled undecided voters again last night, and found Obama winning this debate by 30 points.

…. I not only thought the president excelled last night, I think Romney very nearly embarrassed himself. After six years of campaigning for the nation’s highest office, asking voters to make him the leader of the free world, the former one-term governor conveyed an unnerving message to the nation in the year’s final debate: he neither knows nor cares about international affairs. As a New York Times editorial noted, Romney at times “sounded like a beauty pageant contestant groping for an answer to the final question.”

Full post here








Greg Sargent: …. Tonight, America was introduced to Peacenik Mitt — and watched him take a pummeling….

Romney didn’t take many of the shots he was expected to take — while Obama landed a number of very hard blows on Romney early on. Obama got right to his core message: We got Bin Laden, and we’re ending Bush’s war … Oddly, Romney again and again supported Obama’s positions, at one point basically acknowledging that Obama had made it clear that the United States has Israel’s back.

…. Perhaps most important, Obama repeatedly connected his insistence on fiscal sanity on defense, and savings from drawing down the Bush wars, to the need to invest in nation building at home. In other words, Obama successfully connected tonight’s debate over foreign policy to his core domestic policy message about the imperative of investing in long term middle class security. I don’t know how much tonight will change the race, if at all, but my bet is polls in the days ahead will show stronger public preference for Obama’s overall vision.

Full post here



LA Times: …. Monday’s presidential debate featured a forceful and articulate defense of Obama’s foreign policy. That was no surprise. What was surprising was that it came from Romney.

…. Once Romney intimated that he might keep U.S. troops in Afghanistan past NATO’s 2014 deadline. No more. Now he agrees with Obama that it is feasible to transfer combat responsibilities to the Afghans by that point. On Iran, Romney emphasized economic sanctions rather than the threat of a military attack, effectively endorsing Obama’s approach…..

… Romney dusted off his canard that the president had conducted an “apology tour” through the Middle East. To be clear: Obama has not apologized for American influence; every time Romney says otherwise, he reinforces the many reasons to distrust his honesty.

…. If Romney believes in a thoughtful and centrist foreign policy, which he hadn’t until Monday night, it would argue for his candidacy. But if that vision is attractive — and it is — why not stick with the president who is already pursuing it?

Full article here








Morning everyone, it’s a beeeeeeeeautiful day 😉

76 Responses to “Rise and Shine”

  1. 9 Roberta in MN
    October 23, 2012 at 8:56 am

    GOOOOOD Morning Chips. thanks for all the threads last night. EXC debate

  2. October 23, 2012 at 8:56 am

    • 11 Roberta in MN
      October 23, 2012 at 8:58 am

      I thought I was going to laugh myself off the couch when he said that and the schooling of the ships wwe have now. It was amazing.

    • 12 utaustinliberal
      October 23, 2012 at 9:29 am

      It’s hilarious that it’s been trending all night and into today.

  3. 13 hopefruit2
    October 23, 2012 at 8:57 am

    Well Good Morning Chips, TOD, lurkers, everyone! Congratulations Kiwi on #1!

    I expect to see a lot of “horse & bayonet” Halloween costumes this year….

  4. 14 collegekay
    October 23, 2012 at 9:00 am

    Don’t click if you have a weaka stomach, lol.

    Romney drenched in sweat last night: http://democratsforprogress.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=19737

  5. October 23, 2012 at 9:01 am

    Morning Kiwi, morning everyone 😉

  6. October 23, 2012 at 9:06 am

    Good morning, OTeam!! Our POTUS hit it out of the ballpark!! My whole neighborhood was screaming, but then I realized it was because the SF Giants won the pennant. But PBO TOOK THE PRIZE. BRAVO, Mr. President!!

    And let’s hope that the Village Men are done with debate moderating. Can’t believe these guys have TV shows. ACK.

  7. 26 Pamela
    October 23, 2012 at 9:18 am

    Woke up and burst into giggling when I remembered ‘Myth Congeniality’! How utterly ridiculous….

  8. 37 japa21
    October 23, 2012 at 9:26 am

    GM TODville, the home of the smartest, most aware people on the planet, where truth and justice reign. 14 days to go. After last night, there should be no doubt anywhere who not only is the most qualified candidate for President, but who is the only one of the candidates that is qualified.

    Although it will probably not be the blowout it should be, PBO is going to win. And it is up to us and others like us not only to see him across the finish line but also to bring him a Democratic Congress.

    14 days, both an eternity and a microperiod in time. Let’s go get this done.

  9. October 23, 2012 at 9:26 am

    • 40 theo67
      October 23, 2012 at 11:22 am

      Instead of “Obama Lite”, Romney’s trying to be “Obama-White”. He thinks that’s all it takes. Got a hard reminder last night that it takes more than that…

  10. October 23, 2012 at 9:27 am

  11. 42 anniebella
    October 23, 2012 at 9:29 am

    Chipsticks the videos were just great to listen too.

  12. October 23, 2012 at 9:30 am

    THIS is why he can’t be president. He really doesn’t get it.


  13. 45 Ladyhawke
    October 23, 2012 at 9:33 am


    President Obama’s Commanding Victory in the Final Debate

    By Bob Cesca


    As I’ve been writing for weeks now, Who is this guy? He has no core values, no plan, no opinions that last any longer than two or three minutes, and he’s running the most cynical presidential campaign in modern history, banking on the fact that many voters don’t follow these statements closely enough to track the flip-flops and pandering, while also assuming that all politicians are slippery liars anyway, so why not vote for the one who looks like a Sears mannequin candidate direct from central casting.

    He’s a corporate raider with a record of shady investments and outsourcing overseas and is currently surrounded by neocon war-mongers. Worse, like Bush, he’s an empty suit who will be controlled by his advisers — capable of doing whatever they suggest for the sake of political expedience and re-election. Devoid of personal conviction, he possesses a CEO’s sociopathic ability to separate conscience from business and make decision without the pesky fog of morality. Whatever it takes — right or wrong — to make it through the day and to profit at any cost. Is this a safe bet for the presidency of the United States? Not a chance in hell.

    Last night was President Obama’s last debate of his political career. And what a swan song it was. Now here’s to hoping sensible voters will see through Mitt Romney’s shifty nefarious robo-cynicism and jettison this fakey gosh-golly car salesman onto the forgotten slagheap of presidential losers.



  14. 47 anniebella
    October 23, 2012 at 9:34 am

    Haven’t heard to much from the garbage man Chuck Todd.

  15. 49 xtine
    October 23, 2012 at 9:35 am

    Good morning all! Comment over at TPV:

    When you have a Republican saying “I agree with what the President has done” once, you know something is off. When you see said Republican saying that several times during a debate, you know the Democratic President has changed the paradigms of foreign policy forever. Obama has shown that we can have a strong defense without unilateral war, that we can keep secure without hurting our values. The ground has shifted.

    • 50 57andfemale
      October 23, 2012 at 9:46 am

      No one who truly believes in diplomacy would think John Bolton is a “diplomat”. It’s not a fact-checkable lie but it is the most egregious form of deceit.

    • 51 PoliticalJunkessa
      October 23, 2012 at 10:07 am

      I think this was just a way for Willard to get through the debate. He knew he had been got at the last debate, and he didn’t want to do too much real discussion on the actual issues. It was a survival mechanism.

    • 52 Puddin'
      October 23, 2012 at 1:39 pm

      xtine your point/comment is spot on…I think this is why President Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize!

  16. 53 FoxfireTX
    October 23, 2012 at 9:38 am

    Good morning everyone! What a great day in TOD land. After some sleep, a few additional comments on the debate last night.

    First and most important, this is NOT a reversal of debate 1. The big difference? Romney confirmed the impression that he is a worthless shapeshifter and if folks did not get that before I think it was pretty obvious last night. While PBO did not win on style in the first debate his policy positions were the same as always.

    Second, appearances DO matter and Romney not only did not look like a CiC, he did not look leader. Rather, he looked like he was drowning while PBO looked the leader we all know and love. And that matters, if nothing more than on a subconscious level.

    Finally, as the last debate, Romney has no time or space to change that final impression of him. He played not to lose but I believe the polls will show in the coming days that his calculation was badly misplaced.

    In any event, our PBO set us up to close this thing so let’s get to work and do it! Forward!

  17. 54 Pamela
    October 23, 2012 at 9:42 am

    Dear dear Chipsticks, I have to go to work now, but if you see this and have a minute, would you consider re-posting that incredible work of Rt video titled RESULTS, it was fantastic, and awesome! (a lot like YOU, actually) Bye all, in meetings all day, won’t have iPad with me. {{{{PBO}}}}. {{{{Chips}}}} {{{{TOD}}}}

  18. October 23, 2012 at 9:44 am

    It’s Iron Fist here 😕 Remember, it’s a GOP-MSM-shill-free zone for the next two weeks, so no posting of their Romney-swooning here. Thanks! Will post a heads-up soon.

    • 56 Grab a Mop Grace
      October 23, 2012 at 9:53 am

      Thanks Chips. Got it:)

      So proud of my President and in his performance last night.
      He continues to astound me as to the depth of his knowledge on all things.
      He is the perfect President. Yep, I said it.
      And I’m so grateful to be here to witness Obama’s time.

      Obama/Biden 2012

  19. 57 Ladyhawke
    October 23, 2012 at 9:47 am

    Republicans Filibuster Everything, Romney Blames Obama for Not Working with Congress

    By Bob Cesca


  20. October 23, 2012 at 9:52 am

    Updated NC numbers-

    White 64.5%
    Black 31.0%
    Other 4.5%
    Female 55.5%
    Male 43.5%
    Unk. 1.0%
    In-person 86.3%

    This is the state chuck todd gave to republicans???

    • 59 anameti
      October 23, 2012 at 11:29 am

      Jovie141 if you look at the # of registered Democrats versus Republican voting early, the democrats are leading. I am an independent and I voted for president Obama. I believe Obama will win North Carolina if the election is not rigged.

  21. 60 Ladyhawke
    October 23, 2012 at 9:54 am

    It’s Time to Question the GOP’s Patriotism

    By Deaniac83


    I have had it up to here with the Republican intransigence against the United States of America. I have had it with the GOP not just hurting our country economically for political gain, but politicizing every war-and-peace topic. At some point, when a political party seems incapable of coming together at an hour of crisis, of putting America before their political futures; at some point when a political party is hell bent on launching political attacks on American civil servants in harm’s way, and on document dumping for political gain – at that point you have to stop and say: this is not patriotic. This is not patriotism. This is unpatriotic behavior.
    Foreign policy isn’t exactly my area of expertise, so to speak. But this isn’t just about foreign policy anymore; this is about our country. This is about patriotism. Patriotism isn’t about faux outrage at a burning flag, it is about a burning desire to serve our country. Patriotism is about a love of country that is bigger than our political and personal interests. It is about serving one’s country before one’s party. Endangering the lives of those who are cooperating with American authorities so that we can get to the bottom of what happened when we were attacked is unpatriotic. The men who support that act are unpatriotic. And the candidate whose goal has been to take political advantage of a crisis has lost all claim to patriotism.



  22. 62 JER
    October 23, 2012 at 9:59 am

    LIVE | President Obama in Delray Beach Event:

    http://www.cbs12.com/news/features/live/index3.shtml (great sound)

    and http://www.cbsnews.com/liveFeed/widget.shtml (low sound)

  23. October 23, 2012 at 10:01 am

    Sorry for posting again so soon, but …. heads up!


    If you want to copy and paste any comments/links from this thread in to the new one, please do!

  24. 65 Kreen
    October 23, 2012 at 10:04 am

    Morning Friends! 14 days to go! 4 more years!!!!

  25. 66 betseyc
    October 23, 2012 at 10:04 am

    Good morning TOD and blog goddess Chips, to whom I am forever grateful for this sane, inspiring, fun and incredibly informative site. I’m a resident of New York but in the summer of 2011 I handed my house keys to renters, jumped into a great pick up truck, towing my new home behind it, and headed out for a life of adventures. My newest adventure has me on the way to Reno, Nevada to join OFA’s Vote Corps for the next two weeks. The VC is another great OFA idea — organizing people willing to relocate to swing states and commit to at least 40 hours a week doing whatever needs to be done. I’ve been so inspired by the hard work and dedication of so many of you, and am so grateful to have the opportunity to help this amazing man win his last election.

  26. 67 mophene
    October 23, 2012 at 10:12 am

    Good lawd, Mittens is as much of an airhead as President Bush. Mittens is the more articulate one of the two, but Bush was a more skilled and practiced liar. I don’t remember GWB sweating and squirming like that, when he went before the people, and told his lies.

  27. 68 amk for obama
    October 23, 2012 at 10:25 am

    Heh, where is my credit, chips ?

  28. October 23, 2012 at 10:31 am

    Can somebody please tell Jimmy Carter to STFU?-

    The New York Times reports on Carter’s visit to Israel:

    “I don’t think there’s any doubt that Netanyahu has decided the one-state option is the one he’s going to pursue,” Mr. Carter said, despite Mr. Netanyahu’s professed commitment to two states, notably in a 2009 speech at Bar Ilan University.

    As for Mr. Obama, a fellow Democrat, the former president said, “The U.S. government policy the last two to three years has basically been a rapid withdrawal from any kind of controversy.”

    He added: “Every president has been a very powerful factor here in advocating this two-state solution. That is now not apparent.”


  29. 76 jaleh
    October 23, 2012 at 10:34 am

    Rmoney was sweating! It was fun to watch.

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