This, That and the Other

Ohio University’s College Green, Oct 17 (@BuzzFeedAndrew)


Business Insider

This is really the big story of the moment: The full-on comeback in everything related to consumers and households.

Let’s just break it down really fast.

1. New housing starts are shooting straight up … 2. Retail sales growth: Re-accelerating …. 3. The Unemployment Rate: Collapsing (according to the government) …. 4. And the unemployment rate is collapsing according to Gallup …. 5. And car sales are surging …. 6. Revolving Consumer Credit. Back to growth …. 7. Gallup Economic Confidence is the best since May …. 8. Consumer discretionary stocks surging towards all-time highs …. 9. Homebuilder stocks highest since 2007 …. 10. Wal-Mart has finally busted out, and surged past its 2000 high …. 11. Even more impressive: Home Depot! Surging to multi-year highs …. 12. University of Michigan Consumer Confidence hits a 5-year high …. 13. Restaurant owners are saw a recent spike up in their outlook (they’re a great measure of consumer discretionary spending …. 14. Case-Shiller home prices are clearly on the rise.

Something really big is under way!

See the post for more, including graphs


LA Times


Reuters: Groundbreaking on new homes surged in September to its fastest pace in more than four years, a sign the housing sector’s budding recovery is gaining traction and supporting the wider economic recovery.

Housing starts increased 15 percent last month to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 872,000 units, beating even the most optimistic forecasts on Wall Street, Commerce Department data showed on Wednesday.

It was the quickest pace of groundbreaking since July 2008…

More here


Steve Benen: For all the Romney/Ryan efforts to convince Americans the economy is getting worse, reality stubbornly keeps getting in the way…

Groundbreaking on new homes surged in September to its fastest pace in more than four years, a sign the housing sector’s budding recovery is gaining traction and supporting the wider economic recovery…..

…. The unemployment rate is at its best point in four years; consumer confidence is at its best point in five years; the federal budget deficit is at its best point in four years. Just this week, reports on retail sales, industrial production, and new housing construction showed sharp and unexpected improvements.

This probably isn’t what Republicans wanted to hear…..

More here


Cedar Rapids, Iowa (AP/Carolyn Kaster)

Cornell College, Mt. Vernon, Iowa (AP/Carolyn Kaster)

(Reuters/Jason Reed)

Ohio University, Athens, Oct 17 (Reuters/Jason Reed)

More photos tomorrow





NYT: It has dawned on Mitt Romney that he has a problem with female voters. He just has no idea what to do about it, since it is the result of his positions on abortion, contraception, health services and many other issues. On Tuesday night, he bumbled his way through a cringe-inducing attempt to graft what he thinks should be 2012 talking points onto his 1952 sensibility.

…  Perhaps Mr. Romney forgot that he vetoed a bill as Massachusetts governor in 2005 that would have given women who were raped access to emergency contraception, or that he supported an amendment this year that would have allowed any business to opt out of the contraceptive mandate, or that he has said he would support a state constitutional amendment that would declare that life begins at conception — potentially making some kinds of contraceptives illegal….

…. then he started a slow, painful slide into one of the most bizarre comments on this issue we’ve ever heard, which became an instant Internet sensation….

More here




New York Times





In These Times



Nick Anderson



EJ Dionne: …. For Obama’s supporters, the fact that the president played offense, had a strategy and seemed happy in his work was reason enough for elation. But the most electorally significant performance was Romney’s. Under pressure this time, the former Massachusetts governor displayed his least attractive sides. He engaged in pointless on-stage litigation of the debate rules. He repeatedly demonstrated his disrespect for both the president and Candy Crowley, the moderator. And Romney was just plain querulous when anyone dared question him about the gaping holes in his tax and budget plans.

…. In the second debate, the disguise fell. Romney revealed more of himself than he wanted to and asked voters to endorse a radical tax-cutting program without providing them the details that matter. Sketchy is one word for this. Deceptive is another.

Full article here


Think Progress






9:35: President Obama departs the White House

11:10: Arrives in Manchester, N.H.

11:55: Delivers remarks at a campaign event at Veterans Memorial Park in Manchester

2:00: VP Biden delivers remarks at a campaign event at the Culinary Academy of Las Vegas Events Center


270 Responses to “This, That and the Other”

  1. October 17, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    On the phone right now, getting ready to hear the President.

  2. 4 magapie
    October 17, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    I’m on THE CALL with PBO!! I’m SO SPECIAL!!! Me and 1,000s of other OBAMAFILES!!

    • 5 vcprezofan2
      October 17, 2012 at 8:21 pm

      Listen to every nuance and be prepared to share! You too Axel!

      • 6 magapie
        October 17, 2012 at 8:24 pm

        I will!!! (what’s a nuance???)

        • 7 vcprezofan2
          October 17, 2012 at 8:29 pm

          Funny 😆 I want every little changing inflection in his voice, not just the words, you hear?

          • 8 magapie
            October 17, 2012 at 8:33 pm

            DONE!!! (How does an inflection work? Up…down…… just sorta……ummm…sits there??)

            • 9 vcprezofan2
              October 17, 2012 at 8:34 pm

              Yes. No. All of the above.

            • 10 vcprezofan2
              October 17, 2012 at 8:40 pm

              So, so what did he say? Did he miss me? Did you tell him I sent you instead. Is he going to give me my own unshared call later? Spit it out!

              • 11 Jennifer
                October 17, 2012 at 8:44 pm

                Damn, I started to cry – what a sap I am. I wish he could be POTUS forever! That was so awesome knowing he was actually talking to us. vcprezofan2, I KNOW he missed you. 🙂

                • 12 vcprezofan2
                  October 17, 2012 at 9:01 pm

                  Thanks, Jennifer, I bet he did! Hooot! 😆 My laptop just started acting up right in the middle of my conversation with Maga-p, knocking me out, freezing out, IE not responding, Firefox doing a fade in fade out routine, yadi yah! The only thing I can say is I’m glad it chose tonight to have its little hissy-fit, and not last night! I’m going to try and finish reading the wonderful information Ms Chips shared in the post.

                • 15 theo67
                  October 17, 2012 at 10:16 pm

                  Jennifer – I was on the call, too, and when he said the story about how having a political friend is like having a college kid – and that he’s about to graduate, and started saying that some of the people on the call have been with him for seven years – I got teary. He sounded tired, but energized, oddly. He knows this is the final stretch, and one way or another, he’ll never have to campaign again. He’ll never have to go up against the unworthy like Romney and try and convince half the country that they should vote for their interests instead of for their prejudices. And his team is so proud of him, and I’m glad the people who asked questions also told him how proud they were of his performance. Just a really nice call.

                  • 16 theo67
                    October 17, 2012 at 10:17 pm

                    Oh – and of course – donate, donate, donate. Time, money, energy, passion. Donate before midnight – and vote early!

  3. 17 vcprezofan2
    October 17, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    Hello there AxelFoley!

  4. 20 hopefruit2
    October 17, 2012 at 8:24 pm

  5. October 17, 2012 at 8:25 pm

  6. October 17, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    LIVE WITH KELLY AND MICHAEL – 10/17/12 – On today’s “LIVE with Kelly and Michael,” First Lady of the United States Michelle Obama stopped by for an appearance that will air on the show on FRIDAY, OCTOBER 19, 2012

  7. 27 hopefruit2
    October 17, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    This is EXTREMELY disrespectful. What if Malia or Sasha publicly stated that they “wanted to take a swing at Romney?”

    • 28 magapie
      October 17, 2012 at 8:31 pm

      I agree, plus why would that fucking lilie wuss want to get his ASS KICKED by a ninja Prewsident??

    • 29 vitaminlover
      October 17, 2012 at 8:33 pm

      Awwww tagg would have been ‘tagged’. haha. what an idiot.

    • October 17, 2012 at 8:35 pm

      SCREW TAGG ROMNEY and the horse he rode in on.

    • October 17, 2012 at 8:36 pm

      I wish he would have tried. It’d be the end of him and his dad.

    • 36 Nena20409
      October 17, 2012 at 8:41 pm

      And does this piece of crap get SService protection? This yet another one of their so called Great up bringing out in the open for display? Those who tweet please make that go viral.

    • October 17, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    • 38 vcprezofan2
      October 17, 2012 at 9:21 pm

      Is this the absolute best the Republicans could do? They were so bedazzled by Romney’s wealth they couldn’t check briefly into him and his family more closely?

    • 39 cman
      October 17, 2012 at 9:39 pm

      Oh he should have tried. I would have left my house and been in that hall within seconds to lay him the fuck out.

    • 40 anniebella
      October 17, 2012 at 9:39 pm

      Like father like son, a rich arrogant bully who can dish it out but can’t take it. I wish the punk ass Tagg would try it, POTUS wouldn’t need any S.S. to take care of Tagg. POTUS would have kick Tagg’s behind like he kick Tagg’s dad.

    • 41 Rita
      October 17, 2012 at 9:42 pm

      hopefruit, they would never do that because their parents have class and are bringing up the kids to have respect for their fellow human beings. This is another indication on Mitt and Ann Romney’s character and their life of entitlement. Bullies breed bullies.

    • 43 smoothscotch
      October 17, 2012 at 9:51 pm

      Good evening. Perhaps Tagg should take out some of that agrgression by joining your fighting men and women in the army. oooo, he’s tuff.

    • October 17, 2012 at 10:29 pm

      You’ll never hear Malia or Sasha say the same about Mitt.

    • 45 nathkatun7
      October 17, 2012 at 10:47 pm

      Why didn’t Tagg volunteer to take a swing at the people they call terrorists? I am so so sick and tired of these cowards who think that talking big makes them brave. Some one should tell Tagg that if he did dare take a swing at the President, he (Tagg) would certainly be the one who would end up on the floor begging for mercy. It seems that the Romney boys have inherited their father’s cowardly tactics of trying to bully people. Thankfully, we have a President and a Vice-President who are not easily intimidated by COWARDLY bullies.

    • 46 Puddin'
      October 18, 2012 at 1:21 am

      …it don’t matter, come November 7, President Obama is going to be his president for four more years!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • October 18, 2012 at 7:48 am

      What a pos! I guess he has had a grand master teaching him lessons in disrespect and bullying, they always say that an apple never falls far from the tree and as far a Tagg (what the f**** sort of name is that anyhow!) Romney is concerned he sounds like he takes after his lying pos father. UUUUUUGGGGGHHHHHH! That man makes me wanna barf!

      Sorry for the rant, just having a crap day and anyone dissing President Obama just makes my blood boil. End rant.

  8. 48 magapie
    October 17, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    Avalanches!!! Bury willards nasty ole stanky carcass!!!

  9. 50 andogriff
    October 17, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    Wow! Let us know everything he says, please! Thanks so much to Ms Chips for the wonderful debate coverage…and to everyone for the great comments! I have spent most of the day catching up, SO HAPPY it went so well!! Such a lot of brilliant articles and videos on this post, look forward to sending some of them on to my mailing list tomorrow.. Good night all.

  10. October 17, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    Mitt’s voter extortion is getting a lot of attention on twitter 🙂

  11. 52 Tally
    October 17, 2012 at 8:30 pm

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  13. October 17, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    Just hung up phone call with MY PRESIDENT!!

  14. 58 vitaminlover
    October 17, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    Oh Willard—-here’a a hads up for you and Paulie. Stick a for in you you’re done.

  15. 60 Tally
    October 17, 2012 at 8:36 pm

  16. October 17, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    Did anyone write down all the reasons PBO listed for why anyone should vote for him? He said it so well, it would make a great tweet!

    • 62 ouapiti
      October 17, 2012 at 8:45 pm

      I didn’t get all of it but I loved “I don’t care where that kid is born, what they look like, they’re going to get a good education … I believe in an America where everyone is treated fairly, people aren’t discriminated against. … We have to ask our President: Who’s fighting for us?

      For me, hands down, that’s our President Barack Obama!

      • October 17, 2012 at 8:54 pm

        He was terrific and honest and direct. He sounded a bit tired but also charged at the same time!

        • 64 Ladyhawke
          October 17, 2012 at 9:44 pm

          I was on the call too meta and I totally agree with you characterization of the call. It is not possible for me to love PBO any more than I do. He’s my hero. When he says this is my last campaign, I get a little teary.

          • October 17, 2012 at 10:00 pm

            OH GAWD, LH, so did I. I really can’t even think about it. I think this weighs on him as well.

          • 66 ouapiti
            October 17, 2012 at 10:04 pm

            Agree with both of you. I also loved his answer as to what to say to someone about who they should vote for as they are entering the voting booth. “We have to ask our President: who is fighting for us?” I think PBO continues to make a strong case for being the president who has fought and will fight for all of us.

        • 67 Pamela
          October 17, 2012 at 10:13 pm

          I was in commute traffic, has iPad on, hotspot on, full signal, iPhone ready to capture voice memo, but alas! :(, I guess I learned iPad does not handle live streaming. Even my name and OFA member page were open, thanking me for joining the call! So, I left it on, missed every word, but was all the way IN, in Spirit! There was a lovely atmosphere in the car, and I told all the other commuters to chill and behave, as I had PBO in the car with me, and lots of Workers as well! I enjoyed it…. 😆

        • 68 nathkatun7
          October 17, 2012 at 10:55 pm

          I am so happy that you and others got the privilege of talking with the President. You have been doing an incredibly wonderful job on his behalf. Thank you for all the hard work you’ve put-in in the campaign to re-elect President Obama. Speaking for myself, I regard you as one of the most inspiring and dedicated supporters of the President.

          • October 17, 2012 at 11:01 pm

            Oh, that is so sweet of you to say. I’m just like everyone else – I believe deeply in President Obama and respect and admire him dearly. I couldn’t think of doing anything less than supporting him each and every step of the way. nathkatun7, thanks so much. I really, really appreciate your kind words.

  17. 71 magapie
    October 17, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    Ok, enough of my irreverent, marginally humorous crap! (For this ONE POST.) THE PRESIDENT sounded confident, thoughtful, determined, steadfast and matter-of-fact. Oh Ja! That IS Barack Obama! The final FEC fund-raising deadline is TONIGHT. I’m sure you all know that. This month-end doesn’t matter.

    Constant fund-raising has to suck for someone as high-minded as the President. BUT IT MUST BE DONE and he has to do a lot of the heavy lifting. I WOULD say DONATE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN TONIGHT!! But all of us TOD-ers have been doing all that we can. But………….. if you CAN do some more?!!!

  18. 74 Bill R.
    October 17, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    Just got off the phone with our President Barack Obama. We got a nice report from the field organizer. He gave a very upbeat report on the battleground states and said in every state we are ahead of where we were in 2008 in voter registration and early voting, requests for early voting. And in most states ahead of the GOP by large margins. There is a real push for final donations now with the FEC deadline looming. (I responded to the e-mail and gave an extra $100 today.) Then the President came on with his friendly voice and thanked everyone. He was upbeat about how things are moving but says they always knew it would be close. He responded to two questions. One woman asked where these late donations would be going. He said basically to field organization and GOTV, early voting, and also to rapid response Ads to respond to attacks. Then he made a joke and said, “Supporting a candidate for office can be like having a kid in college. Well, I’m about to graduate, but we still have one more election to win, and this is the most important one.” The second question was from a guy in Ohio. He asked “What is the one thing to tell someone who is still making up their mind?” The President paused and said, “Well, I have kids, and for anyone who has kids, what kind of country do you want them to live in? And what kind of president is going to help that happen?” He went on to say……” Anyone voting should think about the person in the oval office and whether they are thinking of you and your family, considering your needs and the needs of regular people first, rather than the special interests and lobbyists, when considering important decisions about Medicare and Medicaid, Social Security, Education, and all the other important needs that regular people have. He said, I am that that guy!! ” He thanked us all and said with our help we would all win this election and prevail for the good of the country.

    It was a great call and so great to be included.

    • 75 magapie
      October 17, 2012 at 9:01 pm

      Excellent recap, BillR!!!

    • 77 forus50
      October 17, 2012 at 9:34 pm

      That was great Bill. Yes, they were both upbeat and even though it was shared with thousands it was pretty cool to have President Obama talking to me on my cell! lol.

      One thing that I loved was when he mentioned that perhaps some of you may have seen the debate last night and “I’m still trying to get the hang of it”. Dear God, who could have done better??? As others have said, that format was so difficult to navigate sharing it with a Board Certified Liar. This diary by eclectablog so well describes what he had to do last night. Amazing, amazing. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/17/1145768/-How-Barack-Obama-threaded-the-town-hall-needle-and-got-America-to-be-outraged-at-Mitt-Romney

    • 78 PoliticalJunkessa
      October 17, 2012 at 9:42 pm

      Nice. Thanks for sharing!

      • 79 HZ
        October 18, 2012 at 12:09 am

        It was an awesome experience to be on the call and just to hear his voice within my space with my ears knowing that this was a wonderful opportunity for all of us. I was just shaking the entire time, because I could not believe that it was happening.

        It was the best in my history book. He is the greatest Maestro!!!!!!! What an honor. “You all, the people.”, made it happen alongside our beautiful POTUS. I am so grateful to be alive during this great time with this great president.HZ

    • 80 theo67
      October 17, 2012 at 11:34 pm

      Beautiful recap, Bill.

    • 81 Obama Grandmama
      October 18, 2012 at 12:23 am

      I am so happy for those of you that participated in the phone call. I had my chance but could not participate. I had to wait for a phone call from my Mom’s Oncologist as it was just discovered her lung cancer has spread to her bones. Family sad times and political happier times. I’m glad to be able to come here. Thanks to all of you for keeping my spirits up.

      • 82 HZ
        October 18, 2012 at 2:26 am

        Obama Grandmama((((((((((((((((((((((((((( Healing, gentle loving, hugs to you and your precious mother )))))))))))))HZ

  19. 84 Jeff
    October 17, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    I guess Romney is out there encouraging businesses to push their workers to vote for him.

  20. October 17, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    Did Ann Romney really turn her back when FLOTUS wanted to shake her hand?

    • 87 lisalovesobama
      October 17, 2012 at 9:09 pm

      What? Where did you get this from?

      • October 17, 2012 at 9:23 pm

        Last night on twitter a few people said it. Too tired to investigate at the time. I haven’t heard it since so maybe it wasn’t true.

      • 89 HZ
        October 18, 2012 at 12:23 am

        Hi Lisa. This has been bothering me all day. I really do not like to go here, but I need to. After the debate, Ann Romney came up and gave Mitt a kiss(whatever it was), and as POB was going to meet FLOTUS, Ms. Ann looked right pass POTUS and gave him a scathing look and said a word into the side ear of her husband. It was very very ugly, in my opinion. I so wish I could slowly re-run the tape from C-SPAN.

        So the remarks that are being reported as to what their son said does not surprise. I hope that the word gets to the SS. I really am serious. I do not usually share things like this on this site, but this I saw with my own eyes, and it sent old southern ugly and hateful chills memories through my spirit. I wish someone could see the tape and tell me that I did not see this. But I did. HZ

    • 90 Sharon
      October 17, 2012 at 9:14 pm

      I don’t know, but at the first debate, they got up and engaged in a hug. This time they both just sat there and grinned.

  21. 94 Sharon
    October 17, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    I don’t know if this was brought up in an earlier thread, but I think it may be comforting to many of you.

    Kos article on that Gallup LV poll. Said he looked into the cross tabs on yesterday’s where Romney reached 50. The country was divided into 4 parts East, Midwest, West and South. In the first 2 Obama was leading 52-48 and 53-47 in the West. But in the South he trailed 61-37, thus pulling him down considerably. With the exception of Florida, Obama will never win those states, but he leads in the areas that contain the states that matter. And the 51 today for Romney was all taken before the debate.

    • 95 magapie
      October 17, 2012 at 9:33 pm

      I JUST SENT THAT BREAKDOWN TO MY NERVOUS SISTER!!! willard can win nasty shitholes like OK by 99%, who cares??? (Oh and my apologies to the nice, informed residents of OK. I know you are just out-numbered.)

  22. 96 forus50
    October 17, 2012 at 9:13 pm

  23. 97 terim
    October 17, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    Just reminding everyone to donate before midnight – it’s now or never!!!

    • 98 lamh35
      October 17, 2012 at 11:01 pm

      I’ve been donating $11 every time I get an email since Monday!!! I’ve already given like 3 times today…lol. I’ll continue to give as long as they send me emails…lol

  24. 99 hopefruit2
    October 17, 2012 at 9:17 pm

  25. 101 amk for obama
    October 17, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    GM folks. Great to wake up great crowd shots. This is in a ittybitty univ ? 🙂

  26. 109 Melanie
    October 17, 2012 at 9:31 pm

    • 110 magapie
      October 17, 2012 at 9:37 pm

      Oh! Obvious!!! If tagg (WTF is that his actual name?) took a swing at PBO, MICHELLE would rip his head off and shit down his neck!!! NO, scratch that she’s way too classy for that. MY grandmother would do it.

      • 111 dudette9t9
        October 17, 2012 at 11:31 pm

        Oh stop it. First off, if it came to blows, I’m pretty sure POTUS would be quite capable of kicking ass if needed. And FLOTUS is a lady; she won’t be lowering herself to fight some spoiled brat in overpriced khakis. That’s what Secret Service is for. Duh!

    • 114 anniebella
      October 17, 2012 at 11:26 pm

      That Romney gang sure have lots of class don’t they. I guess Tagg would do like dear old dad did to that teen-ager who Mitt had down other guys to hold down as he cut the guy hair. Cause Tagg wouldn’t be man enough to do it himself. It shows money can’t buy class.

      • 115 HZ
        October 18, 2012 at 12:41 am

        Anniebella, it does shows that money can’t buy class, but money(that we the people pay) would have brought some arse last night, SS detail, if this little worm would have even gotten close to POTUS with this type of attitude. SS detail reads every move one makes, and surely they have a keen sense of what a person is displaying around POTUS. That would have been some heavy duty s… going down last night.

        I apology for my attitude tonight, but I sense this crap from Mrs. R. I know this crap when I see it.

        So I will leave it and think on good things because I am filling my space up with too much right now.
        Everyone have a great evening and get some rest because we still have to move FORWARD. I did my donating to DCCC and POB. I am broke now until payday, but we will have what we need.

        (((( Love you all very much))))))HZ

  27. 116 hopefruit2
    October 17, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    What’s with Maddow’s fetish with Dan Rather?

  28. October 17, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    Is there a clip of just the answer on Libya?

  29. 127 cookemom
    October 17, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    Howdy O’s!!! It’s been a few great getting up days since I last visited TOD town. I enjoyed the debate with #2 and we both howled at the women in a binder blunder. I was very impressed with PBO coming to the defense of his foreign affairs team. He called him out for lying at every turn. He is a mighty fine person and it showed. John Kerry did an excellent prep job and this time PBO had his National Security adviser in the prep sessions. They anticipated Mitt’s attack and allowed him to hurl himself right of the cliff. Mitt aged about 10 years in front of our eyes during the debate. His Achilles heel is being challenged, that’s the biggest affront a person could do to him. Judging by the family’s reaction, they are just a richer version of the Palin gang.

    My political take today is that the so-called undecideds is getting way too much attention. It seems they describe themselves that way just to have the nation’s eyes on them at the highest level. They are not undecided, because in this age of the internet, there is no reason to still need more information to make a decision. That may have worked so late in a election in the days of the pony express, but now it just shows their incompetence. The AA guy who asked PBO why should he vote for him again, later said on CSPAN that he was a policeman. The guy who sits around the office talking about international stuff, was an obvious lean Repub. I think it should be declared likely voters who get to ask the opposing candidate a question. At least those folks have actually invested time and effort in the process.

    • 128 hopefruit2
      October 17, 2012 at 9:45 pm

      Lawrence O’Donnell is going to have a segment tonight on the Last Word, specifically about those so called “undecided” focus groups and why having “undecideds” in those groups is not the best idea. I’m sure L O’Donnell suspects as most of us do, that these people are bunch of professional Republican con artists.

    • 129 Chi
      October 17, 2012 at 10:12 pm

      Spot on Cookemom…

    • 130 Obama Grandmama
      October 18, 2012 at 12:42 am

      Being undecided gives them a lot of attention and can look good for the GOP if they go their way. All of the cheating that goes on with the GOP means that we now suspect them of every Kind of cheating since they are so involved in voter suppression. They have stacked their campaigns with bussed in people before too.
      I remember was it SNL doing a segment on the undecided voters and it was cute? Could have been Jon Stewart or Colbert so am not sure where I saw it but the undecided were asking questions like who is running and that level question. The NBC poll with 8 people after the debate where 2 committed one for each candidate. The others were still undecided mostly seemed to lean towards Mitt. The women were even questioned about the fair pay and it didn’t bother them as they only liked his job plan.

  30. 131 amk for obama
    October 17, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    Ipsos post-debate poll is a win for President Obama at 48-33.


  31. 132 amk for obama
    October 17, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    Do these thugs think the workers would really pull the lever for their thug ?

  32. 133 hopefruit2
    October 17, 2012 at 9:59 pm

  33. October 17, 2012 at 10:00 pm

  34. October 17, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    Really, Rachel and Dan Rather wondering about who is running campaign and why so many missteps. Romney and his ilk feel entitled to belittle and talk down to anyone who don’t agree with them or aren’t rich white males. They don’t feel it necessary to listen to anyone’s opinion but the voices in their own heads and if they speak loudly enough or put more money into it the problem will go away. I could see him trying to make my President wither and wilt last night. He acted like President Obama was a recalcitrant child that had to be put in his place. My one question for these multimillionaires and multibillionaires is how much money do you need? How many houses, cars, wives, children, roads, buildings, islands are enough? The workers are the one’s who got you there and you “should dance with the one who brung you” instead of downsizing or moving you jobs offshore to get more money.

    Ok I feel better now.

  35. October 17, 2012 at 10:16 pm

    Well, “Tagg Romney” is trending like crazy. Really, who the fuck is running that campaign?

  36. 148 Kat 4 Obama
    October 17, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    Hi all,

    Here is a thing I did today. 🙂

  37. October 17, 2012 at 10:26 pm

    This should be a link to a very funny photo.

  38. October 17, 2012 at 10:32 pm

    Thursday Oct. 18, 2012
    9:35 AM
    Obama departs the White House en route Joint Base Andrews.
    9:50 AM
    Obama departs Joint Base Andrews.
    11:10 AM
    Obama arrives in Manchester, N.H.
    11:55 AM
    Obama delivers remarks at a campaign event at Veterans Memorial Park in Manchester, N.H.
    1:05 PM
    Obama departs Manchester, N.H.
    2:00 PM
    Biden delivers remarks at a campaign event at the Culinary Academy of Las Vegas Events Center.
    2:10 PM
    Obama arrives in New York City.
    3:30 PM
    Obama tapes an appearance on “The Daily Show with Jon Stewart” at Comedy Central Studios in New York City.
    4:20 PM
    Obama attends a campaign event at The Waldorf-Astoria Hotel, New York City.
    7:55 PM
    Obama delivers remarks at the 67th Annual Alfred. E. Smith Memorial Foundation Dinner.
    10:35 PM
    Obama departs New York City.
    11:30 PM
    Obama arrives at Joint Base Andrews.
    11:45 PM
    Obama arrives at the White House.

  39. 161 PoliticalJunkessa
    October 17, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    Funny, I don’t even remember what happened at the first debate, but I will never forget that ass-whupping from last night. People will be studying President Obama’s performance for many years to come.

  40. October 17, 2012 at 10:43 pm

  41. 163 TheWorld4Obama
    October 17, 2012 at 10:47 pm

    I think this Tagg Romney’s comment about wanting to take a swing at PBO should be all over the news and twitter and decried because 1) it is disrespectful to talk about POTUS that way and 2) it is an incitement to violence.
    Can we get this out there on twitter to get this to be talked about and for Tagg to apologize?
    This is so not right and it is a clear signal to all the loonies on the right that it is OK for them to think that they can think to attack POTUS ohysically.

    In my opinion this deserves a talk from SS to Tagg.

    • October 17, 2012 at 10:53 pm

      It’s all over twitter and is still trending.

    • 167 lamh35
      October 17, 2012 at 11:12 pm

      I’ve been tweeting it for the last 2 hours. I tweet it to my list and then I tweet it to individuals in the media and hopefully they retweet it or respond to me, which also goes out to their followers. I also send it to “celebrities” who I think have a lot of twitter followers and hopefully they retweet it too.

      So yeah, it’s already trending.

    • 170 theo67
      October 17, 2012 at 11:50 pm

      I’m also worried about what crackpot might hear these reckless words and think it’s an invitation to do something. The Romneys (and the GOP generally) are so irresponsible. And they never hold themselves accountable for the havoc they wreak.

  42. 171 amk for obama
    October 17, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    • 172 Elle in MI
      October 17, 2012 at 11:04 pm

      Oooo AMK, …”shooting blanks?” On no you didn’t go there, lol!

    • October 17, 2012 at 11:12 pm

      I know people hesitate to link to Daily Kos, but this is, I think, beautiful and profound. I would even timidly venture to say it deserves a spot on the top of the post.


      • 174 amk for obama
        October 17, 2012 at 11:20 pm

        quit that stinking place long time ago. nothing will ever make me go back.

        • October 17, 2012 at 11:31 pm

          Then you are missing a beautiful piece of writing.

          “I even wrote about it. I wrote about how even though he doesn’t share the history of the Oliver Browns and Homer Plessys and Rosa Parkses, he nonetheless inherited their burdens. I wrote about how even though his forebears didn’t endure the whips, the slashes, the examples made out ofs, or the hangings, he nonetheless inherited the complicated world left in their wake. I got upset again; I shed another tear as I thought of the serious black men throughout the country right now with ephemerally clenched jaws and stiffened fists upon seeing the Tagg Romney headline. ”

          There’s more.

          • 176 dudette9t9
            October 17, 2012 at 11:39 pm

            “…You know, he suffers the indignities. The calls for birth certificates. The effigies outside his field offices. The jokes about his father’s birthplace. The proclamations that he is not smart, or “doesn’t think like us”. And he just takes it. Because he has to. Because there is no precedent for him. He is the standard bearer. He sets the example. He is the mountaintop. The one with whom the buck stops.

            When Barack Obama took this office, he accepted a burden greater than that of any other man on Earth, black or otherwise. And for that, history will someday jump out of its seat and judge him not by the color of his skin but by the content of his character. He fights for that each day, just by being him. My jaw now softened, my fists unclenched, I set my eyes upon the dream, knowing it will someday come.

            At first, I got upset. And then I started pacing. And then I started crying. But now, I just feel fine. “

          • 177 nathkatun7
            October 18, 2012 at 12:52 am

            This is a great piece.

        • 178 theo67
          October 17, 2012 at 11:53 pm

          This is the diary that should make you go back – just this once. It’s beautiful. And stirring. And true.

          • 179 amk for obama
            October 18, 2012 at 12:10 am

            My peace of mind is not worth a diary, however great it may be.

            May be chips can post the diary content here with that author’s permission ?

            • 180 theo67
              October 18, 2012 at 12:34 am

              Actually, the other posters on this section posted some of the best parts. I think there are just two more paragraphs in the actual diary. But, I get what you’re saying. Don’t abandon your peace of mind – the jist was posted here. It was just a very lovely diary. Poetic.

        • 182 nathkatun7
          October 18, 2012 at 12:48 am

          AMK, I absolutely understand how you feel about DKos, but this diary will not disappoint you.

    • October 17, 2012 at 11:14 pm

      When Mitt Romney starts telling employers to intimidate their workers and ask them to vote Republican, we’re back to the days before the New Deal when owners could use the police to break up worker strikes and fire anyone who expressed a political opinion they didn’t like.

  43. October 17, 2012 at 11:13 pm

  44. 186 Jeff
    October 17, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    Watching Columbo and eating dinner while reading Obama Diary.

  45. October 17, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    Making all the wrong decisions, doubling down on JUNK:

  46. October 17, 2012 at 11:32 pm

  47. October 17, 2012 at 11:34 pm

  48. October 17, 2012 at 11:36 pm

  49. 195 amk for obama
    October 17, 2012 at 11:40 pm

  50. 196 yardarm756
    October 17, 2012 at 11:47 pm

  51. October 17, 2012 at 11:50 pm

    So the 47% video is not quite done with Romney yet. In this clip he is talking about wishing for an Iran-hostage-type situation. Regrets that it would be not easy to arrange, and says at the end, if something like that arose he would try to take full advantage of it.


    • 198 Rita
      October 18, 2012 at 12:02 am

      This is what Stef Cutter referred to after the VP debates on CNN. She said Romney had been looking for a Iran type situation to exploit and has latched on to Libya for exactly that reason.

      It’s disgusting that Romney is doing this. I was so proud of President Obama for displaying the strength of character that has defined his handling of each and every crisis on his watch, and there have been many.

    • 199 desertflower
      October 18, 2012 at 12:20 am

      Make this viral. Not one single person in America should be ignorant of the intentional harm this cretin wishes for America, or the people he wishes were put in harms way for his Oval office hopes. He is worse than pond scum.

    • 201 theo67
      October 18, 2012 at 12:44 am

      The only words I have left to describe this Romney creature are craven and reprehensible. I need a thesaurus.

  52. October 17, 2012 at 11:54 pm

  53. October 18, 2012 at 12:02 am

    • 204 nathkatun7
      October 18, 2012 at 1:05 am

      Bobfr! You are a supreme example of a real patriot! This Chicken hawk coward, who had a chance to enlist in the military to go fight for his country in Desert Storm, Afghanistan, the Invasion of Iraq, now has the nerve to threaten bodily harm to the President. I am sick and tired of these privileged Romneys who insist on disrespecting the duly elected President of the United States.

  54. October 18, 2012 at 12:04 am

    Reading TOD and watching the The Houstons Remembers Whitney”

  55. October 18, 2012 at 12:04 am

    • 207 vcprezofan2
      October 18, 2012 at 7:25 am

      Morning Bobfr! I think were they to do that it would totally shift the focus of the election, something we don’t need right now. Plus it would polarize a large(R) section of the electorate. Tagg responded to a question if I remember correctly. His response would seem ‘natural’ to a whole slew of ‘men’. He didn’t move towards PBO. He wasn’t in his face. He answered a question posed by an announcer. Of course his answer revealed thinking that’s skewered, but what else is new – the whole Romney bunch seem skewered to me! IMO we can deride them on Twitter to our heart’s content, but I don’t want the admin to be seen as acting defensively in situations like these. In fact, I want the Romneys and their campaign to fully showcase who and what they are before Nov 6, so I’m all for whatever exposure they get. There IS something odd about the lot of them, and it isn’t their wealth. ‘Bring ’em on’ is my motto. Let them strut their stuff! Let the American people look, listen, and be revolted….many will be. Start to respond at an administrative level to stuff like this and I think there will be lots of righteous indignation…for the wrong guy. Just my feeling, for what it’s worth.

  56. 208 amk for obama
    October 18, 2012 at 12:08 am

    This from a rw pollster.

    • October 18, 2012 at 12:19 am

      Love some good news before heading to bed….. 😉

      And thoroughly enjoyed Stewart and Colbert both showcasing the Libya take-down with split screens showing both PBO’s and Romney’s faces!! And tomorrow night PBO will be on TDS!

  57. 214 amk for obama
    October 18, 2012 at 12:16 am

  58. 216 Ladyhawke
    October 18, 2012 at 12:20 am

    Romney Warned Against Pointing Fingers At Bush Administration After 9/11 Attacks


    During a 2004 National Press Club luncheon, Romney was asked to address the 9/11 Commission’s finding of serious intelligence failures on the part of the US government in the run-up to the attacks. He responded that it is easy, but ultimately not particularly helpful, to blame different parts of the government for the attack:

    It’s very easy, it is extraordinarily easy to point fingers and say, ‘Why, this part of government knew this and it didn’t tell that part.’ And, ‘These people here haven’t learned that.’ Well, the reason those barriers exist is for legitimate purpose in a world that was pre-September 11th. And judging our intelligence by post- September 11th conditions is something we have to do carefully. We do that to help us get better, and to the extent we find criticism in the kind of work that I’ve had to do and others are doing, it should be focused on how we can make ourselves more effective in the post-9/11 world. But trying to judge what happened pre-9/11 by post-9/11 knowledge is probably not terribly fruitful.
    While the Romney campaign has been routinely accusing the administration of deliberately misleading Americans on Libya, a detailed timeline of the events suggests that isn’t the case.



  59. 217 desertflower
    October 18, 2012 at 12:22 am

    Chips…this could give the Mankini a run for the money!!!!!!!!!!!! Check this pic out:)


    • October 18, 2012 at 12:49 am

      “Right now, there is a choice going on in America, and I’m happy that we live in a country where we all participate in that process. For me, President Obama is our best choice because he has a vision of the United States as a place where we are all in this together. We’re still living through very hard times but justice, equality and real freedom are not always a tide rushing in. They are more often a slow march, inch by inch, day after long day. I believe President Obama feels these days in his bones and has the strength to live them with us and to lead us to a country “…where no one crowds you and no one goes it alone.”

      That’s why I plan to be in Ohio and Iowa supporting the re-election of President Obama to lead our country for the next four years.”

      Bruce Springsteen

    • 221 daisydem
      October 18, 2012 at 12:54 am

      I love the Boss! I am so grateful to him for his support of our President. My son got me (I am same age as Bruce) listening to him about 6-7 years ago; now we have seen him live together twice, the second time being at JazzFest this past year, where Bruce and the E Street Band played most of the songs from Wrecking Ball including “We Take Care of Our Own.”

  60. 222 amk for obama
    October 18, 2012 at 12:53 am

  61. October 18, 2012 at 12:59 am

  62. 225 Tally
    October 18, 2012 at 1:02 am

    ok – fixed my stupid tweet. going to bed.

  63. October 18, 2012 at 1:15 am

    A wonderful interview with George McGovern at 90. He’s just been admitted to hospice. He was the first president I voted for.


  64. October 18, 2012 at 1:19 am

    • 233 Anna
      October 18, 2012 at 2:03 am

      Is Tagg the ponzi son? Pond scum, I tell you, all of them. Been looking for a still picture of Miss Ann as she came on the stage and glared at Obama as she passed by with her blue nail polish. My sister claims she saw Miss Ann using a middle finger to scratch her face as she came down to the stage, can’t find that either to check out.

  65. 238 dudette9t9
    October 18, 2012 at 1:46 am

    For a moment, I wasn’t sure whether this was satire — it sounds so much like Fox News

    • 239 theo67
      October 18, 2012 at 1:55 am

      This is just like Fox “News” – just with an accent!! It’s uncanny – and a sad state of affairs. But, this type of illogical faux outrage would be perfectly acceptable to Fox “News” viewers – they’d probably be telling you “I don’t get your question”…

  66. 240 canadabarb4obama
    October 18, 2012 at 1:58 am

    been trying to read everything, but just running out of steam……could you please help me by letting me know the crowd sizes at the rallies for PBO today….thanks so much

  67. October 18, 2012 at 2:03 am

  68. 244 amk for obama
    October 18, 2012 at 2:06 am

  69. 248 dudette9t9
    October 18, 2012 at 2:56 am

  70. 249 dudette9t9
    October 18, 2012 at 3:00 am

  71. 250 dudette9t9
    October 18, 2012 at 3:03 am

  72. 251 99ts
    October 18, 2012 at 3:05 am

    If you look at Mitt/Miss Ann 1:38:36 – it is just after Ann has whispered an insult to Mitt – she is no lady – not now, not ever – and the look on Mitt’s face!

    • 252 forus50
      October 18, 2012 at 7:07 am

      That face is going to crack from forced smiling. It sounds like just one word like “nice”. But I can’t hear it as I have a crappy laptop.

  73. 253 dudette9t9
    October 18, 2012 at 3:11 am

  74. 255 dudette9t9
    October 18, 2012 at 3:45 am

    It’s long a while and someone uploaded the version with subtitles to Youtube, so ENJOY!

  75. 256 TheWorld4Obama
    October 18, 2012 at 5:31 am

    Hi All the tweeters on TOD,

    we need to tweet MorningJoe, NowwithAlex, and all the shows on all channels so that they know about this stupid Tagg Romney threatening to harm POB physically. It is against the law to do such a thing and anybody else would be talking to the SS right if they had “joked” about something like that.
    Tagg needs to come on TV and issue an apology for threatening to lay hands on POTUS or face prosecution.

    Thanks to all for keeping this very serious matter in the news/twitter so that it gets talked about Thursday in all the shows on TV.

  76. October 18, 2012 at 6:03 am

    The president heads to campaign events in Manchester, N.H., and New York City. He will also tape an appearance on “The Daily Show with Jon Stewart” and deliver remarks at the 67th Annual Alfred. E. Smith Memorial Foundation Dinner.

  77. October 18, 2012 at 6:15 am

    Ok NC voters- Grab a friend and go vote…

  78. October 18, 2012 at 6:51 am

    Michelle Obama fund-raiser: Geena Davis, James Earl Jones, Cynthia Nixon, Sam Waterston, Blair Underwood, Sigourney Weaver
    By Lynn Sweet on October 18, 2012 12:28 AM | No Comments
    WASHINGTON–First Lady Michelle Obama headlined a star-filled fund-raiser in Manhattan on Wednesday night.
    Stars expected, according to the pool report: Geena Davis, Cherry Jones, James Earl Jones, Cynthia Nixon, Sam Waterston, Blair Underwood, and Sigourney Weaver, to be directed in some entertainment by Mike Nichols.
    Chris Rock also attended.

  79. 260 forus50
    October 18, 2012 at 7:13 am

  80. 261 utaustinliberal
    October 18, 2012 at 7:15 am

    If you’re in North Carolina, make sure you get out and VOTE.

  81. October 18, 2012 at 7:28 am

    Meeka comes out of her trance this morning, a trance, a coma, whatever it was for four years. However, this morning( amazing and surprisingly), She has been going toe to toe with Joe on Women issues.
    Meeka, where have you been?

  82. 265 hopefruit2
    October 18, 2012 at 8:00 am

    Some nice news 🙂

  83. 266 hopefruit2
    October 18, 2012 at 8:17 am

  84. 267 utaustinliberal
    October 18, 2012 at 8:22 am

    Mika of Morning Joe grew some spine this morning. I just caught some of her on Morning Joe and the Today Show this morning and she went to toe-to-toe with Joe, Mark Halperin, Willie and Steve Rattner on women’s issues. She kept reeling off accomplishments of the Obama administration in regards to women and the economy. She skewered Romney and his lack of pro-women policies when he was Gov. of MA and now.

    I’m glad that the Today Show skyped her and Joe in this morning to a broader audience. She pointed out the bigger picture about Romney’s Binders Full of Women comment and why it’s offensive, she pointed out that under Pres. Obama unemployment has gone down, housing foreclosures are down, housing prices are up, consumer confidence is up, manufacturing has increased, he signed the Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, he created a council on women and girls, she just went on and on and on.

    My jaw dropped. She was trending on twitter like fire.

  85. 269 utaustinliberal
    October 18, 2012 at 8:38 am

    Damn…..Cher was fired up this morning at the condescending assholes on Morning Joe trying telling Mika that she knows nothing about what women want in the election. Halperin, Willie Geist, and Joe were assholes. They basically did all but pat her on the head and tell her she belongs in the kitchen making dinner. They defended Romney’s comments about women on the show. They apparently got flooded with calls and emails and tweets from women who were ANGRY and then they began to back down. Joe even replied to Cher’s tweets on twitter. Cher was rightfully MAD.

  86. 270 Mae who love our CIC
    October 18, 2012 at 9:05 am

    The GOP is always trying to change the conversation. Yes, Meeka is coming out of her silence. I was so shocked Wednesday morning when she told Joe, you had so much to say about the last debate, why are you not talking now? I could not believe my ears. Women issues are very much economic issues. They are financially inter-related. The cost of having a child whether married or not; it will cost your pocket. Health issues are finance issues.
    All we could hear from the GOP for about a year was about the economy and oh the employment numbers and such will determine whether President Obama gets a second term. Now that the numbers are working in this country favor, what does the GOP pigeon hole on, the attack on a embassy. One issue of many foreign policy issues that occur on a continual basis every day. Willard can’t even go outside of this country without offending the visiting country. Words are important and our sons and daughters will be in another war fooling with Willard.

    The GOP loves to criticize, can not and will not offer solutions to make things better, Most of the talk shows on CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC and the others are so freaking tiresome. The least that they could do to help the American people is to report the truth and not embellish and prop up and cover for the GOP.

    The last performance by Willard during the debate should make each American very afraid of him. He has no self control and he thinks every thing revolves around him. Willard is dangerous and he knows that this is his last rah rah and he is pulling out all of the stops. He does not respect women and his religious beliefs showed up at this last debate. And how can any AA support him is beyond my comprehension.Oh Willard shares my views and my response to the AA is that you don’t have much of a view.

    Willard does not love the American people. He has a disdain for most of them and he looks at the 47% as parasites who should just go away and die.

    And for Willard son who threatened the President, consider that threat over your own head buster. You meant it for evil for our President, but you do foolish talk and those words are for you, son. Tells me how much home training you have received. You couldn’t take the mental azz whopping your dad was receiving, but you so willing to engage in physical confrontation. How immature and child like. You gon beat up someone because of the truth. How disgusting is your behavior.

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