This, That and the Other

President Barack Obama walks with Chief of Staff Jack Lew during a break from debate preparations in Williamsburg, Va., Oct. 14. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)


Heads up:

5:45 ET: Michelle Obama speaks at a campaign event at Cuyahoga County Community College, Cleveland


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A supporter holds up a sign during First Lady Michelle Obama’s campaign rally at the Ohio Wesleyan University, October 15 (Jewel Samad/AFP/GettyImages)



A line of people waiting to see first lady Michelle Obama snakes through the campus of Ohio Wesleyan University in Delaware, Ohio, Oct. 15 (AP/Andrew Welsh-Huggins)





Coming up:

Tuesday: President Obama travels to Hempstead, New York where he will participate in the second Presidential Debate at Hofstra University. The First Lady will also attend. The President will return to Washington, DC later in the evening

Wednesday: Travels to Cedar Rapids, Iowa and Athens, Ohio for campaign events. He will return to Washington, DC in the evening

Thursday: Travels to Manchester, New Hampshire for a campaign event. Also on Thursday, the President will deliver remarks at the 67th Annual Alfred. E. Smith Memorial Foundation Dinner in New York City. He will return to Washington, DC in the evening

Friday: Travels to Camp David where he will remain overnight

140 Responses to “This, That and the Other”

  1. 9 prettyfoot58
    October 15, 2012 at 5:43 pm


  2. 10 hopefruit2
    October 15, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    Congratulations Bob on #1!

    This picture at the top of the post is _____.

  3. October 15, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate and enjoy your site. Keep up the good work.

  4. 15 dudette9t9
    October 15, 2012 at 5:46 pm

  5. October 15, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    Wow, Pres. Obama looks SOOOOO stressed with Jack Lew.

    “Yeah, Jack, can you believe that I let him flip-flop on everything in the 1st debate? I had to do hardly anything!”

  6. October 15, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    #Sensata is now trending on Twitter.

  7. October 15, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    I think the Sensata story will be “one more nail,” even though Romney can credibly (for the first time) claim he wasn’t involved. But since he still has stock and benefits from Bain’s actions, and he also made the Bain methodology, it’s going to stick to him.

    • October 15, 2012 at 6:00 pm

      Hi Norbrook,
      He has a controlling interest and we have no idea how involved he is because he has his personal attorney managing his trust fund so he’s protected by virtue of attorney, client privilege of actual disclosure of his involvement in decisions. Moreover, we have Mitt, in his own words, deriding the very notion of a ‘blind trust.’ The guy is a control freak of the 1st order, as well. So, I see zero ‘credibility’ in anything he claims about his involvement in #Sensata or any other corporation in which he’s vested.
      Just my opinion, of course,
      And, great to ‘see’ you 🙂


    • 21 nospin
      October 15, 2012 at 6:03 pm

      not still has stock Norbrook. He has 51%. Controlling interest.

    • October 15, 2012 at 6:07 pm

      Hi Norbrook, what amazes me about this story is that Romney had the neck to try to bring China in to the campaign. Seriously, what was he thinking of??

    • October 15, 2012 at 6:54 pm

      If Romney can dare to blame President Obama for the tragedy in Libya, then he should have to own this Sensata scandal – even if he didn’t know one whit of it – simply because Romney is benefiting from this Sensata tragedy.

  8. October 15, 2012 at 5:54 pm

  9. 30 collegekay
    October 15, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    PBO looking fine in that pic. Yes chile..

    I wish he had a son that looked just like him. 😀 😀 😀

  10. 31 forus50
    October 15, 2012 at 6:01 pm

    • October 15, 2012 at 6:41 pm

      Actually I was enjoying the polls until after the first Presidential debate! LOL. But I agree that worrying about each and every poll doesn’t make sense.

  11. 33 PoliticalJunkessa
    October 15, 2012 at 6:04 pm

    Looking good, Mr. President!

    I LOVE that sign being held up for Michelle….Miss Ann will never know that type of vibe or love.

    I can’t wait until Friday night when my Prez gets to kick his feet up at Camp David — it will be well earned.

    • 34 theo67
      October 15, 2012 at 6:58 pm

      There won’t be much resting at Camp David, PJ – because the President has another debate on Monday, Oct 22!

      • 35 PoliticalJunkessa
        October 15, 2012 at 7:38 pm

        Sheesh! Well at least the environment will be calming, hopefully. 🙂

        • 36 theo67
          October 15, 2012 at 7:47 pm

          Yes – and I hope he’ll have good momentum coming out of this week, too. Next week, it’s all foreign policy and we know that Mitt and his cronies have no clue.

          • 37 Obama Grandmama
            October 15, 2012 at 11:16 pm

            Yes, no clue, but they are going all out to make the Benghazi attack somehow Obama’s fault. Trying to make it into another 9/11.

            • 38 theo67
              October 15, 2012 at 11:18 pm

              Makes it very curious – I won’t go into conspiracy theories, except to say “how convenient” after Romney was heard saying he’s exploit any crisis.

  12. October 15, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    So, Shanon Doherty, who ran against Robney in 2002, said the democratic legislature over-rode 755 vetoes by Robney as governor.
    Yup, he is a moderate. Not!

  13. October 15, 2012 at 6:15 pm

  14. 45 cman
    October 15, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    i like that outfit. FLOTUS is radiating.

  15. 46 dudette9t9
    October 15, 2012 at 6:19 pm

  16. October 15, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    I think if the President came out with Sensata early in the debate, and then hits him on the 5 trillion dollar tax plan, he will throw Robney off his game of lies, put him on defense.

    • 48 Jeff
      October 15, 2012 at 6:30 pm

      nail him on the 47 percent mark. In fact bash him on every single thing that Romney says. Ask him which Mitt Romney is speaking exactly, etc.

      Although I don’t believe that political debates are usually the means to win elections I think in tight races it can cost you. Not trying to be an alarmist as I believe PBO will win this election. I just worry some…

  17. 50 nospin
    October 15, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    Keith Olbermann is now using the #Sensata tag on twitter.

  18. 51 hopefruit2
    October 15, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    FLOTUS is firing up that crowd!

  19. 52 dudette9t9
    October 15, 2012 at 6:21 pm

  20. October 15, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    • October 15, 2012 at 6:27 pm


    • 56 hopefruit2
      October 15, 2012 at 6:29 pm

      • October 15, 2012 at 6:34 pm

        Gallup non lucid explanation-

        UPDATE 2: Gallup emails with a statement from editor in chief Frank Newport, who defends the ways it screens likely voters. “Gallup’s likely voter model predicted a slightly more Democratic outcome than the actual result in the 2008 and 2004 presidential elections (i.e., predicted Obama winning by a slightly larger margin than he won by, and predicted Bush winning by a slightly lower margin than he won by).  In both presidential elections the likely voter model was more predictive than the registered voter model.”

        All spin!

        • 58 hopefruit2
          October 15, 2012 at 6:46 pm

          He’s comparing apples and oranges. Polls served a different purpose in 2004 and even 2008 than they have in 2012. They were used less to influence voters and more to report about actual voter opinion. Since Obama got elected, the polling industry has turned into business all by itself. These polling companies are funding and subsidized by special interests and are rigged to bring about outcomes that would benefit the bottom lines of these special interests. Gallup alone has polled PBO 84 times in a two-year period compared to 4-7 times for the last 5 presidents before him.

          We want to see the actual formula they are using to determine who is a likely voter this year. We will not be satisfied with anything else.

    • 59 Bill R.
      October 15, 2012 at 7:40 pm

      “Early Voting has proven them wrong.” Jeff destroys the fraudulent “Likely Voter” screen in manipulating poll data. Reality doesn’t lie.

  21. 60 dudette9t9
    October 15, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    Nice strategy for when you’re in twitter jail — use a different account (Bob has already discovered and used this great idea)!

  22. October 15, 2012 at 6:27 pm

  23. October 15, 2012 at 6:28 pm

  24. 66 hopefruit2
    October 15, 2012 at 6:34 pm

  25. 67 dotster3
    October 15, 2012 at 6:36 pm

    Sure could have done without Carl Bernstein’s deep thoughts on Rev. Al—–that Obama revealed himself as “arrogant” and “diffident” at the last debate, confirming perceptions.
    Yes, confirming the perceptions of old, jealous (white) guys, like Carl Bernstein.

    • October 15, 2012 at 6:43 pm

      That was the first time I seen Bernstein Hack the President like that. That was off base.

    • 69 joyce
      October 15, 2012 at 6:48 pm

      Exactly. When I heard him say that, I grabbed my remote. And had to use it several times during the show so far.

      • 70 elo4obama/biden
        October 15, 2012 at 7:17 pm

        I only tuned in @ about 6:30. I caught Bernstein lay all the work on the president to point out Mitt’s mendacity. The rev pointed out media fail, and B went on about people only listening to news that reaffirms their POV, sometimes from unreliabe sources. Oh and after seeming to speak out against the notion of both sides do it, he then went on to say that both sides do it.

        Right after he refused to call out his breathen (media) I muted for a few, then thought sorry Rev Al, not today. I turned the channel. I would take the media pointing out every lie or exaggeration, on either “side”. Just give us the truth most of the time. Sheesh!

    • 71 criquet
      October 15, 2012 at 7:09 pm

      Aren’t those two things contradictory?

      • 72 elo4obama/biden
        October 15, 2012 at 7:20 pm

        If he used arrogant and diffendant{sp} to describe the president’s debate demeanor, then he’s just full of contradictions.

    • 73 anniebella
      October 15, 2012 at 7:24 pm

      What did old Bernstein have to say about Mitt Romney lying in the first debate?

  26. October 15, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    The Associated Press reports:

    Administration officials say the White House has put special operations strike forces on standby and moved drones into the skies above Africa, ready to hit militant targets from Libya to Mali, if U.S. investigators can find the al-Qaida-linked group responsible for the death of the U.S. ambassador in Libya.

    But the officials say the administration also is weighing whether the short-term payoff of being able to claim retribution against al-Qaida is worth the risk that such strikes would be ineffective and rile governments in the region.

    Details were provided by three current and one former administration official, as well as an analyst who was approached by the White House for help. All four spoke only on condition of anonymity.

  27. 75 dudette9t9
    October 15, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    FLOTUS stream is done, so now back to the last 15 minutes of Rev Al (http://blog.livenewschat.tv/rockinroosters/)

    Thank you Chips and TOD Family for all the tools you’ve shared that help me stay informed and allow me to contribute in some small way. Love you guys!

  28. October 15, 2012 at 6:49 pm

    Well, thank God for the Peter Hart bash Obama Focus group???
    Yes another one, in Ohio this time. He sends it to the RNC for peddling.
    What an asshole!

  29. 79 dudette9t9
    October 15, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    Look who else is in PBO’s corner: Actress Holland Taylor @HollandTaylor

    You’ve gotta take a few minutes and watch the Reel on her website. This woman is a FORCE!!

  30. 85 hopefruit2
    October 15, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    I wasn’t even aware that Willard had cancelled his appearance on the View. Interesting.

    • 86 utaustinliberal
      October 15, 2012 at 7:18 pm

      Yeah. I hear he’s sending Ann Romney on his behalf. Guess we now know the meaning of Willard Mitt Romney; COWARD.

      • 87 dudette9t9
        October 15, 2012 at 7:22 pm

        Yep, Joy Behar mentioned in her interview with Regis Philbin that Ann was coming instead.

        • October 15, 2012 at 7:46 pm

          Plus, they want to continue bashing the President that he went on a “national TV show” during the Benghazi attack – even though they know this isn’t true, and that the show was taped the day before. Let her go on that show and be pandered to by the two Republicans and the one who thinks the world is flat. I’m not sure anyone is still watching it anymore…

          • 89 carolyn
            October 15, 2012 at 7:59 pm

            Plus, Mitty is a wimp, a wuss, a coward,…..to send his wife when he is scared of those sharp tongued women, shows exactly what he is! Total chicken.chicken mitt.

  31. 90 dudette9t9
    October 15, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    • 91 utaustinliberal
      October 15, 2012 at 7:21 pm

      When I hear pundits scream there is no enthusiasm among voters in this election, I want to smack them hard. Poll after poll show that a high number of registered and likely voters are paying close attention to the candidates positions and are excited to vote. Texas normally has low voter registration and now THIS. This bodes well for down ticket Democrats.

    • 92 PoliticalJunkessa
      October 15, 2012 at 7:41 pm


  32. 93 Ladyhawke
    October 15, 2012 at 7:09 pm


    Romney Is Attacked by His Father’s Longtime Aide



    A longtime aide to George W. Romney issued a harshly worded critique of Mitt Romney, accusing him of shifting political positions in “erratic and startling ways” and failing to live up to the distinguished record of his father, the former governor of Michigan.

    Walter De Vries, who worked for the senior Mr. Romney throughout the 1960s, wrote that Mitt Romney’s bid for the White House was “a far cry from the kind of campaign and conduct, as a public servant, I saw during the seven years I worked in George Romney’s campaigns and served him as governor.”

    “While it seems that Mitt would say and do anything to close a deal – or an election,” he wrote, “George Romney’s strength as a politician and public officeholder was his ability and determination to develop and hold consistent policy positions over his life.”



    • 94 theo67
      October 15, 2012 at 7:12 pm

      It’s quite something that someone as consistent and capable as President Obama could be facing such an unworthy opponent – and half the country thinks that’s ok.

  33. 95 dudette9t9
    October 15, 2012 at 7:10 pm

    Rosie Perez and Robert Gibbs on Rachel Maddow tonight!!

  34. October 15, 2012 at 7:13 pm

    Behind the scenes at Paul Ryan’s workout shoot at Time ( snark alert)

  35. 97 dudette9t9
    October 15, 2012 at 7:17 pm

  36. 98 kathryn kivett
    October 15, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    Went to work feeling pretty positive with PPP polls, listened to someone on xm radio saying internals of ABC poll were good for Obama, cut Rev. Al on and Carl Berstein calls PBO arrogant, read HP and got further down, could not get on Twitter, so came here, which is my ending up point to find out what is going on and it seems glum in here too…..WHAT HAVE I MISSED?….I am now listening to John Heiliman and he is positive too(like him)….what’s going on?….is it anticipation of the debate…..CHILL TF OUT…..No matter what PBO does or says the best we can hope for is that it will be reported as a tie…..BUT….as long as he is his informative, warm, charming self, PBO will not lose votes and will pick up some.independfent votes…..PBO will not get into a slugfest with R…it’s not in his DNA…and we really wouldn’t want him too.

    • October 15, 2012 at 7:40 pm

      I think what we’ll see tomorrow is the same thing we saw in 2008: the idiot pundits will say IT’S GOOD NEWS FOR JOHN MCCAIN, while the snap polls—assuming they’re not polling only white men over 50 who like to wear teabags—will show that PBO won.

  37. 100 dudette9t9
    October 15, 2012 at 7:26 pm

  38. October 15, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    Can’t forget Ann’s concerns, just wouldn’t be fair ….

  39. 103 utaustinliberal
    October 15, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    Heads Up: At 8PM ET / 7PM CT tonight, Nickelodeon will air “Kids Pick The President: The Candidates.” This is where presidential candidates answer questions posed by kids. Pres. Obama agreed to do this (He and McCain did it in 2008) but I believe Romney agreed first then backed out when the 47% video came out and told Nickelodeon that he will not be answering the kids questions despite repeated please and requests.

    It should be a fun program.

  40. October 15, 2012 at 7:36 pm

  41. 107 prettyfoot58
    October 15, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    Not gonna look at any more polls…..whether they are up or down….or allll around…tired of being on a roller coaster…..

    i had jury duty…so iwas at City Hall in Philadelphia…..while waiting for the elevator i notice that the OLD signs re Voter ID are still up….image that …on the same floor as the city commissioners office which handles the elections in Phila….Ugggggggg…so i went into the office and complained……they took the signs down….but they are up in other areas of city….

    i mention this to say that the powers that be are relentless in their onslaught against us…i can’t afford to have my spirit robbed by these incessant polls…or …..so called liberal commentators….i have learned my lesson….no matter what happens…at the debate….i will continue to phone bank…etc…to re-elect the President…

    Presssssssssssssss ON

  42. 113 dudette9t9
    October 15, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    Wondering whether canvassing is worth the trouble? Check this out:

  43. 115 desertflower
    October 15, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    Ouch! http://twitter.com/thinkprogress/status/257851091557965824/photo/1 There goes THAT meme!

    REAL GAINS IN STOCK MARKET 1929-2011: Under Dem presidents (300%); Under GOP presidents (ZERO) pic.twitter.com/8Xhkey45

  44. October 15, 2012 at 7:57 pm

  45. 117 desertflower
    October 15, 2012 at 7:59 pm


    Since World War Two, manufacturing jobs have grown under Democratic presidents and faced more challenges under Republicans, a new study reported on Monday.
    Democratic presidents presided over estimated employment rise of 7 million in the manufacturing sector over the course of seven administrations; In nine administrations, Republicans saw a fall of manufacturing jobs by an estimated 9 million. The Keystone Research Center broke down those numbers by region:

    Someone may want to Tweet this:)

  46. October 15, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    New debate rules-

    1) “No candidate may reference or cite any specific individual sitting in a debate audience (other than family members) at any time during a debate.”

    2) “The candidates may not ask each other direct questions during any of the four debates.”

    3) “The candidates shall not address each other with proposed pledges.”

    4) “At no debate shall the moderator ask the candidates for a ‘show of hands’ or similar calls for response.”

    5) “[During the town hall debate,] audience members shall not ask follow-up questions or otherwise participate in the extended discussion, and the audience member’s microphone shall be turned off after he or she completes asking the questions.”

    6) “[Except when audience members are asking questions,] in no case shall any television shots be taken of any member of the audience (including candidates’ family members) from the time the first question is asked until the conclusion of the closing statements, if any.”

  47. 125 dotster3
    October 15, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    Koch Industries distributes a voting directive to its 45,000 employees—–errr, suggestions——a long list of approved Republican candidates, from Romney on down.


  48. October 15, 2012 at 8:03 pm

  49. October 15, 2012 at 8:03 pm

    Hmm, so SoS Hilary Clinton in an interview on CNN said she “takes full responsibility” for what happened in Benghazi.


    • 132 lamh35
      October 15, 2012 at 8:07 pm

      Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the bucks stops with her when it comes to who is blame for a deadly assault on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi.

      “I take responsibility” for what happened on September 11, Clinton said in an interview with CNN’s Elise Labott soon after arriving in Lima, Peru for a visit. The interview, one of a series given to U.S. television networks Monday night, were the first she has given about the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi.

      Clinton insisted President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden are not involved in security decisions, Clinton said…


      • October 15, 2012 at 8:24 pm

        Although I would have definitely voted for her if she won the nomination in 2008, I can’t say I was ever really a fam of hers. But she has impressed me a great deal while serving as SoS and this is another example.

  50. 135 utaustinliberal
    October 15, 2012 at 8:09 pm

    The Nickelodeon special is off to a great start. These kids are asking great questions and Pres. Obama is giving great answers.

  51. 139 prettyfoot58
    October 15, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    It does not matter what Mitt Romney says about his positions…he lies..he has no integritiy…he has changed his position on every issue….who can trust him…..

  52. 140 Allison
    October 15, 2012 at 8:28 pm

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