‘Every vote counts’

Hey everyone, I have to go out for a bit, back later – and will catch up with your emails asap 😉

179 Responses to “‘Every vote counts’”

  1. 1 Don
    October 8, 2012 at 11:11 am


    Obama/Biden 2012!

  2. 5 COS
    October 8, 2012 at 11:12 am

    Good morning.

  3. 6 yardarm756
    October 8, 2012 at 11:12 am

    Top ten for sure.

  4. 7 Vicki Green
    October 8, 2012 at 11:12 am

    New day, new week, happy thoughts and continued effort.

  5. 8 Pugeretto
    October 8, 2012 at 11:13 am

    Good morning to everyone fighting the good fight!

  6. 9 Rita
    October 8, 2012 at 11:13 am

    Good Morning, everyone!

  7. 10 yardarm756
    October 8, 2012 at 11:14 am

    Brought over from the tail end on the last thread. I WANT ANSWERS!
    I’ve been pondering something since the debate and have a question. We think we know what will eventually happen to Christians that lie. What about Mormon leaders? Do they go to heaven too? (snark)

  8. 14 57andfemale
    October 8, 2012 at 11:17 am

    Yea for PBO: When Politifact can’t spin it negatively it must be TRUE (And yes, Romney’s a liar)


    • 15 nathkatun7
      October 8, 2012 at 6:36 pm

      But Politifact couldn’t resist giving credit to Republicans in Congress for slow growth in government. spending under President Obama. Ironically they didn’t discuss Congress when dealing with the records of the other presidents.

  9. October 8, 2012 at 11:20 am

    My wife, Anne C. Savage, has created another photomosaic of Barack Obama like the one she did that ran as a two-page spread in Time magazine. If you’d like to have a look, check out her post There is nothing more powerful than ordinary citizens coming together for a just cause. Now through October 21st, half of the profits from poster sales will go to the Obama campaign. If you’d like to inquire about wholesale pricing to use the posters as fundraisers for your local OFA office, please contact us.

    • October 8, 2012 at 11:22 am

      By the way, any help you can give us to spread the word would be most appreciated. We’re really hoping to raise significant funds for the campaign but the only way we can do that is if people know about this historic image. Also, if you were at any of the rallies in Ohio and Michigan lately, or at the Democratic National Convention, you may actually be IN the poster! You can zoom in on the poster to look at the faces up close using the link in Anne’s post.

      Thanks, everyone.

      – Chris | Eclectablog

    • 18 hopefruit2
      October 8, 2012 at 2:01 pm

      Thanks E for the heads up! Will definitely check it out. 🙂

  10. 19 57andfemale
    October 8, 2012 at 11:26 am

  11. 22 callmecarol2
    October 8, 2012 at 11:29 am

    Heard a good joke this morning:) “Snow White, Superman and Pinocchio are walking along. They see a sign: “Contest for World’s Most Beautiful Woman.” Snow White goes in, later comes out smiling, wearing a crown. They walk along and see another sign: “Contest for World’s Strongest Man.” Superman goes in, later comes out smiling, wearing the belt. They walk along and see a sign: “Contest for World’s Greatest Liar.” Pinocchio goes in, later comes out with his head down crying. “Who the hell is Mitt Romney?” Pinocchio sobs.” (Askia Muhammad)

  12. 26 Smoothscotch
    October 8, 2012 at 11:31 am

    That’s funny.

  13. 27 dotster3
    October 8, 2012 at 11:37 am

    Re-posting because no one should miss Souza’s Portrait of a Presidency. And even tho we’ve seen most of these photos, it stiil is amazing to see this collection. I want the coffee table book when it’s available.

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  15. 32 dotster3
    October 8, 2012 at 11:40 am

  16. 33 dotster3
    October 8, 2012 at 11:41 am

  17. October 8, 2012 at 11:43 am

    Mitt Romney sucks. That is all carry on lol.

  18. 36 Carol in KY
    October 8, 2012 at 11:48 am

    I’m trying to listen to Romney’s speech, but it’s making me sick! This man is dangerous!!!

    • 37 Marsha
      October 8, 2012 at 11:48 am

      Give details please if you can

      • October 8, 2012 at 1:52 pm

        Mitt was not serious. He actually chuckled at one point during the speech. Who in the world chuckles during a foreign policy speech? It was so flat, and he showed that he clearly has no idea about anything involving Foreign Policy. Of course he tried to appease Nut N Yahoo and basically said nothing different than he has been saying before. He wants more war.

    • 39 LunarSea
      October 8, 2012 at 11:58 am

      you’ve got a stronger stomach that I do. Tried listening to a clip of him on last thread and couldn’t get 1/2 way through before stopping it in agony lol

  19. October 8, 2012 at 11:48 am

  20. 41 dotster3
    October 8, 2012 at 11:52 am

    After seeing that country singer Lorrie Morgan sang the Confederate Anthem “Dixie” at a Romney event in Co.——-revolting in all decent peoples’ eyes—-not even trying to hide their racial bias any more—–I was curious about the singer—–found she is quite the gal—-just got married for the 6th time.


  21. 45 Smoothscotch
    October 8, 2012 at 11:54 am

    Did he just say PBO has never signed any free trade agreements in the last 4 years?

    • 46 Carol in KY
      October 8, 2012 at 11:55 am

      Yes he said it. I shouted ‘that’s not true’!!

    • 47 57andfemale
      October 8, 2012 at 11:57 am


    • 48 LunarSea
      October 8, 2012 at 12:01 pm

      And the lies continue with absolutely no shame

    • 49 lamh35
      October 8, 2012 at 12:05 pm

      hmmm. so I guess Romney’s gonna keep w/lies and distortions since it worked so well in debate.

      Since those trade agreements were negotiated under GWB, the RWNJ believe it’s a good strike against Obama. So that’s why the line is no new “negotiated” agreements. Obama’s signature to them don’t count.

      • 50 LunarSea
        October 8, 2012 at 12:22 pm

        I’m not so sure what was negotiated under Bush. While I can’t say whether he started them, I remember the many trips PBO made to clinch them. All well chronicled here by our formidable ChipsChica of course.

        Furthermore I remember all the thugs opposing it. The unions were upset until they learned PBO added in protections against trade that undermined our American workers so the Union head (whatshisname) gave his blessing and rights activists were quieted when they learned, as PBO said in his speech at the time, that there were provisions to guard against sweat shopped goods making it’s way here.

        So I don’t know what GWB did, it may have been a starting point to new negotiations, but it was decidedly NOT a neocon trade agreement that PBO signed.

        We need to not agree to their lies because it may sound correct on the face.

      • 51 Obama Grandmama
        October 8, 2012 at 1:08 pm

        I remember a Pacific Trade Partnership excluding China that Obama put together on trade that had never been done. Excluding China on it was a big deal. I don’t know all of the particulars on it. Anyone else remember it or can explain it?

  22. 53 jacquelineoboomer
    October 8, 2012 at 11:55 am

    Eeek, TOD. So this is what withdrawal feels like! Computer’s down and I had to borrow one just to say hi! Back later when I get my groove back. Obama-Biden 2012!!!!!

  23. 58 Smoothscotch
    October 8, 2012 at 11:55 am

    Longing for American leadership in the Middle East?’ WTH is this man smoking?

    • 59 LunarSea
      October 8, 2012 at 12:03 pm

      When the neocons say ‘American leadership’ the world hears ‘American interference’ PBO has come a long way in changing that. The damned neocons will undo it all in a flash.

      The whole world needs to rally around PBO or we are all doomed.

      • 60 4morefor44
        October 8, 2012 at 12:30 pm

        the whole world rallied around president obama a long time ago, except for a large percentage of white americans and the few billionaires who own all the major media channels in the entire industrialized world. that tiny sliver of the world’s population is trying like mad to keep president obama from the rest of us. we will win.

  24. 62 Smoothscotch
    October 8, 2012 at 11:58 am

    How’s he going to pay for the military spending? He wants boots on the ground, let his sons and daughters- in- laws lead the charge.

    After 50 yrs, he’ll do better in the Middle East, they don’t want you interfering Mitt, for krissake.

    • 63 4morefor44
      October 8, 2012 at 12:17 pm

      is there a rmoney anywhere that has been in the military? honest question. george didn’t. mittbot or his brother didn’t. none of his 5 physcially fit sons did. seriously, is there a single rmoney family who has done anything but take, take, take from amercia (sic), and not served their country at all?!? and sorry, supporting the mormon church isn’t giving back to amercia.

      all they do is take, and he’s now staking his entire campaign on the idea that he and his family should be able to take even more from the country that has given them so much, and being a prick about it to boot. and now today suggesting to send more poor kids to die in their stupid war games?!?! what vile creatures the rmoneys are. disgusting!

      president obama has talked a lot about his grandpa fighting on the beaches in ww2 and how important the g.i. bill was to his family and amercia as a whole. yet the media continues to cover for the fortunate son mittbot and all his nonsensical talking and lies. get down to your o.f.a. office as fast as you can!!

    • 64 LunarSea
      October 8, 2012 at 12:30 pm

      Per Dickhead Cheney “deficits don’t matter” At least not when the thugs are at the helm. Of course the mindless sheep will be swayed again.

  25. 65 cookemom
    October 8, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    On the last thread I commented that I was listening and watching CSPAN’s broadcast of a show called ‘Lessons From 2008 Presidential Campaign’. The link I provided was for the live broadcast. Since then, that show has been moved to CSPAN’s archive library with a different link.

    This was one of the best programs on the Obama 2008 campaign, imo. It was by Henry De Sio who was Obama For America COO and former Deputy Assistant to President Obama. He gave his synopsis of inside the 2008 campaign. He captured every nuance and the smallest detail of what went on behind the scenes. He goes from how they brought everyone together, to bringing on Biden as VP choice, to looking over their shoulder at the Clintons, to managing expectations, to Rev Wright which was handled in crisis, to the ‘no drama’ mantra, and how impressed he was with then Sen Obama during McCain’s suspending his campaign. He went on to compare how PBO campaign is now handling the current campaign compared to Romney’s.

    This is definitely a must see, especially for those who tend to get squeamish about our chances. It’s worth seeing in it’s entirety.

    Here’s the link: http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/SioR

    When we hear ‘I got this’ about PBO, it’s evident that the campaign believes it.

    • 66 LunarSea
      October 8, 2012 at 12:14 pm

      I love this. Have book marked it to watch later today when I’m not doing 4 things at once, so I can really just enjoy it. Thanks. I hadn’t heard about this show.

  26. 71 Smoothscotch
    October 8, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    Did he say he wants to work with allies to arm Syrians, who is he going to arm specifically, there are so many factions there, ohmygawd.

    Do not let this man in the Whitehouse.

    • 72 amk for obama
      October 8, 2012 at 12:18 pm

      What allies ? Those “I don’t want america to be like those eewwropeans” ? fuggedaboutthem. No one is gonna lift a finger to prezinent mitt (except may be the racist poland).

      Another ME war. Not.Gonna.Happen.

  27. 73 lamh35
    October 8, 2012 at 12:10 pm

  28. 74 Linda
    October 8, 2012 at 12:12 pm

    Mitt’s secret weapon: Sending Ann to the Middle East, where she will fly over, dropping leaflets that say “STOP IT, THIS IS HARD”.

    h/t eyelashviper at HP

  29. October 8, 2012 at 12:13 pm

    I’ll ask again…


    just askin’.

    hee hee hee

    • 76 lamh35
      October 8, 2012 at 12:19 pm

      I honestly don’t really care about Romney’s fundraising numbers.

      • 77 57andfemale
        October 8, 2012 at 12:50 pm

        Oh I care. It affects the narrative.

        I seem to recall that Mitt was falling all over himself several months ago to announce his numbers. Now we’re in the second week of October and nary a peep?

        Yeah, yeah, he’s a lion now and that should bring dollars to his hapless campaign. Or is is lyin? So hard to tell with Mitt.

    • 78 LunarSea
      October 8, 2012 at 12:34 pm

      His fundraising numbers are dismal. All the money is going to super pacs and that adds to his lying. He needs to please all these super pacs to get that money. And we know he’ll do/say anything to get MORE money

    • 79 Obama Grandmama
      October 8, 2012 at 1:14 pm

      All I know is I do not believe anything coming out of Mitt’s mouth anyway. Remember he lied about the number early on and had to revise it downward?

  30. 80 cluny
    October 8, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    Just like his tax returns he’s busily cooking the books to get a better number

  31. October 8, 2012 at 12:17 pm

    Former Republican Senator & Vietnam Vet Larry Pressler Endorses President Obama – Today

    As a combat veteran of two tours in Vietnam with twenty-two years of service as a Republican member of the U.S. House and Senate, I endorse President Barack Obama for a second term as our Commander-in-Chief. Candidates publicly praise our service members, veterans and their families, but President Obama supports them in word and deed, anywhere and every time.

    As a Vietnam vet, one of the reasons I support President Obama is because he has consistently shown he understands that our commitment to our servicemen and women may begin when they put on their uniform, but that it must never end.

    Let’s be clear, Romney and Ryan would be disastrous for America’s service members, veterans and military families. Public praise rings hollow when you fail to mention an ongoing war in accepting your party’s nomination to be president, or veterans in a speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars, a so-called jobs plan or in a budget that should be a blue print of our nation’s values.


    • October 8, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    • 83 Smoothscotch
      October 8, 2012 at 12:29 pm

      That’s good. Saw on up, Huntsman sir just endorsed a DEM Utah.

    • 87 LunarSea
      October 8, 2012 at 12:38 pm

      Excellent – lots of stories like this.

      This is why I try to refer to the blowhards as thugs and neocons. There are still lots of republicans who actually care about this country and don’t like what the other side is offering. Add vets to list including women, students, the elderly, hispanics and white collar working men. Lately it seems by dismissing all republicans we dismiss those who also stand in horror with us.

      Words do matter

      • 88 LunarSea
        October 8, 2012 at 12:49 pm

        meant to say ‘blue collar working men’. Just look at the ads being put out which feature lots of middle aged white men and stop lumping all white, working, middle class men all together.

        My head isn’t in the sand, so I don’t need major rebuttal for what I just wrote. Yes the Robme base consists of mostly this demographic, I’m just saying that there are just about as many that are NOT in his camp. When we lump them all together we reinforce the false media meme and potentially disenfranchise those we shouldn’t. K?

        I would like to see more of this demographic speaking up here as well and hope they can feel welcomed.

  32. 89 lamh35
    October 8, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    Media loved Romney speech. Because Soundbites win Presidencies dontcha no. I 4 one can’t wait 4 our new wars in Iran, Libya, Korea and rest of ME. how about ya’ll?


    Romney gave a sound-bite packed speech at VMI that will play well on nightly news.

  33. October 8, 2012 at 12:20 pm

  34. 94 lamh35
    October 8, 2012 at 12:21 pm

    I’m over the Obama debate performance discussion of the last 4 days, but I gotta admit, I’m still focussed on the ensuing meltdown by MSNBC and liberal blogs and some Obama supporters. This article is a good read on the whole thing and is basically what I said earlier.

    “Groupthink and the Great Debate”

    Dave Weigel chats up some Democrats in New Mexico:

    ALBUQUERQUE — After spending a weekend talking to voters in a close state that’s no longer really “swinging,” the first presidential debate has come to remind me of Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace. Democrats walked out of the theater/turned off the TV saying “huh, well, I wanted it to be better.” After a few days of talking to friends, it changes from a disappointment into the worst piece of crap in human history.

    Roger that. As near as I can tell, here’s how things went. People who were polled during the debate thought it was about even. People polled after the debate thought Romney won. People polled a little later, after the media feeding frenzy, thought Romney crushed Obama in an epic rout. Robert Wright chalks it up to weirdly high expectations for Obama, who’s never been more than a fair debater…

    I promise not to keep droning on about this, but I remain puzzled. Even after rewatching parts of the debate and listening to several days of apocalyptic doomsaying from liberals and conservatives alike, my take remains about the same as it did on Wednesday: Romney chalked up a modest victory. That’s about it.

  35. October 8, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    Ari Melber says it’s the media and the Perception of the Presidents debate performance.
    Richard Wolfe, everybodys favorite, came on and said, not true, compared Robney performance to Kerry 04, where Kerry clearly did better.
    Richard Wolfe, TOO?

  36. 99 LunarSea
    October 8, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    He climbs the stairs, he stops, he turns around, he smiles and waves and just like that, he’s gone. 😆

  37. 100 Linda
    October 8, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    What are the media analcysts saying ? opps , I mean analysts …sorry

  38. 102 amk for obama
    October 8, 2012 at 12:36 pm

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  41. 109 Smoothscotch
    October 8, 2012 at 12:43 pm

  42. 110 57andfemale
    October 8, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    From a dKos comment (not linking there unless I absolutely have to — the idiots came out of the woodwork on the debate):

    Short version Romney Speech
    He’ll arm Syrian rebels.

    Obama Admininistration misled public on cause of Libyan attacks.

    He’ll fellate Netanyahu on demand, pausing only to breathe and shout warnings at Iran.

    He’s sorry we withdrew from Iraq

    He has no clue what to do about Afghanistan

    He’ll pound his chest at Putin

    Bin Laden? Never heard of him.

  43. 111 Smoothscotch
    October 8, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    Hey Bobfr, this for the tutorial on bringing tweets over. It worked, yeah!

  44. 112 Ladyhawke
    October 8, 2012 at 12:51 pm


    Watch the short “Why Obama Now” video (4 mins) and then try to find some time to watch the full length version of this brilliant speech (60 mins) given by President Obama to the Associated Press Luncheon on April 3, 2012. It could easily be his closing argument for re-election. PBO takes on trickle down economics, the role of government and crystalizes “The Choice” in this election. Excerpts of the speech were used in the “Why Obama Now” video which has a current view count of 899,098.

    1) President Obama Speaks at the Associated Press Luncheon

    President Obama discusses the fundamental issues at stake for our Nation, and how we can restore a sense of security for people who are willing to work hard and act responsibly in this country.


    2) Why Obama Now

  45. 113 Smoothscotch
    October 8, 2012 at 12:51 pm

  46. 116 japa21
    October 8, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    Somebody at Gallup is in trouble again. Approval/Disapproval for PBO now 51/44 or a 5 point swing. PBO vs Mitt 50/45 a two point swing in the right direction. I would hazard that the post debate debate is now swinging PBO’s way big time.

    • 117 amk for obama
      October 8, 2012 at 1:05 pm

      Great news, japa.

    • 118 LunarSea
      October 8, 2012 at 1:06 pm

      lol @ post debate debate.

    • 119 collegekay
      October 8, 2012 at 1:06 pm

      Yup. Mitt’s bounce lasted precisely for 1 day.

    • 120 hopefruit2
      October 8, 2012 at 1:28 pm

      The feeling that you’ve been duped by a slick snake oil salesman is one of the worse feelings a human being could endure. And more and more, people are wisening up to the platter of lies and garbage they were fed by Willard on Wednesday night – with the media telling them that it was all delicious and nutritious food, when it was in fact a smorgasbord of of rodent droppings.

  47. 121 amk for obama
    October 8, 2012 at 1:07 pm

  48. 122 collegekay
    October 8, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    • 129 57andfemale
      October 8, 2012 at 1:19 pm

      Ya beat me! But still…heh…..

    • 130 dotster3
      October 8, 2012 at 1:20 pm

      That’s good news, and the Chgo Trib is going to have to switch out their current front page Gallup story about mittmentum and “historic” debate win. Hard to stay up to date. As soon as they post one poll, another comes along to dispute the last one. I was hoping after we got thru the media hype over the debate that people would regain their senses and polls would be more encouraging again.

      • 132 amk for obama
        October 8, 2012 at 1:23 pm

        The jaw of death, baybee.

      • October 8, 2012 at 1:33 pm

        Romney has never been above 46 — and that only with his post-debate poll bump, I suspect. It’s already down to 45.

      • 135 SAB
        October 8, 2012 at 2:51 pm

        I’m confused. Why does Andrew Sullivan say these numbers are bad for the President if he is sitll ahead? This is all very confusing. That’s why I try to take all news, good or bad, with a grain of salt.

        • 136 57andfemale
          October 8, 2012 at 3:13 pm

          Unfortunately, today we’re talking about two Gallup polls and there’s a lot of confusion. Besides, Andrew Sullivan will go back on his meds and love the President in a day or two.

          Everyone who wanted PBO to ‘knock out’ Mitt was pissed. Of course, the narrative would be “Angry Black Man” and I don’t think PBO would have won the news cycle anyway. But the fact that our alleged supporters would continue to try to do damage day after day just because they didn’t get their way — it’s despicable.

        • 137 nathkatun7
          October 8, 2012 at 8:04 pm

          “That’s why I try to take all news, good or bad, with a grain of salt.”

          But then you insist on repeating the bad news after links have been posted to show the latest news. I don’t remember you posting a comment taking “with a grain of salt” the bad news about the President’s poll numbers.

  49. 138 amk for obama
    October 8, 2012 at 1:19 pm

  50. 144 FoxfireTX
    October 8, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    Given Gallup’s “three day poll” showing a tie earlier today this means a huge swing for PBO last night! Let’s hope it continues. But I also question the three day poll. PBO’s approval rating is also based on three days of polling and that shows his rating at 51/44. How do you get a 51% approval for PBO but a tied three day race? In any event, good news and the end of the debate bump.

    • 145 57andfemale
      October 8, 2012 at 1:27 pm

      I thought it was a 7-day roll? Am I wrong?

      • October 8, 2012 at 1:31 pm

        Two different polls. The three-day was checking post-debate movement specifically, if I understood it correctly. But I am no poll guru.

      • 147 FoxfireTX
        October 8, 2012 at 1:38 pm

        The poll between PBO and Romney usually is a 7 day poll but the approval/disapproval numbers for PBO are always based on three days of polling so much more sensitive. BUT Gallup did this weird thing today and published a head to head poll showing a tie that was a three day poll which I’ve never seen them do before. The only thing I can figure out to explain these discrepancies in the three day polls is that the head to head three day was from Thurs, Fri and Sat while the approval poll is from Fri, Sat and Sunday but again that would mean a huge bump for PBO last night.

        • 148 Nena20409
          October 8, 2012 at 2:26 pm

          Gallup trying their best to give Romney an edge for the morning News? I think so. They have polled more in 3.7yrs of the Obama term than they did during Bush. If they polled more during Bush, they were not publishing them. This 47/47 was covered by CNBC? That gave Romney another uplift…..that he never deserved.

  51. 149 FoxfireTX
    October 8, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    Also, based on Gallup’s polling it lists unemployment at 7.5%.

    • 150 57andfemale
      October 8, 2012 at 1:32 pm

      Where do I find that number?

      • 151 FoxfireTX
        October 8, 2012 at 1:41 pm

        Scroll down the main page, it is below the top numbers. It was just showing under 8% for a good ten days before the BLS numbers came out on Friday so I wasn’t terribly surprised and it also shows just how ridiculous these conspiracy claims are. It is not as comprehensive as the BLS numbers but is ongoing so shows generally where households are in the unemployment index..

  52. 153 57andfemale
    October 8, 2012 at 1:30 pm

    Okay. Totally catty. I’m looking at a picture of Linda McMahon from the debate with Chris Murphy in CT. Why is it filthy rich women buy their ugly purple eyeshadow at Walmart? Just sayin’.

    • 154 hopefruit2
      October 8, 2012 at 1:43 pm

      LMAO! I don’t think they buy it from Walmart. They get it free from Walmart. They are friends with the CEOs.

  53. October 8, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    Chips, everyone – really important graphic ….


  54. 156 LunarSea
    October 8, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    Just spoke with a nice man running for state senate on dem ticket. He’s a former teacher. Had lots of good things to say and totally in line with what PBO and other dems are saying.

    I mention this because it is probably the first time that every dem I speak with is on same page. We win when we stand together and the media/neocons see this. This is why they try so hard to pit us one against the other.

  55. 157 collegekay
    October 8, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    4 of the 7 days are post debate in the gallup poll. so the “mitt bounce” was essentially Friday only.

    • 158 hopefruit2
      October 8, 2012 at 1:44 pm

      And I think that was all about trying to set a narrative for Sunday as well as trying to drown out the good news on the employment front.

      • 159 4morefor44
        October 8, 2012 at 2:00 pm

        “the bounce” was entirely media created in my opinion, and therefore fleeting. without the insane flying monkey swarm in “the news” in propping up mittbot’s performance, i’d guess that president obama would’ve seen a bounce from the general public’s own reaction without the conditioning by the media. 95% of the public doesn’t pay as much attention to this stuff as most here do, so unfortunately the media does have some sway, although each year with the “new media” we’re able to reduce their sway little by little.

        doesn’t matter anyway, since mittbot and republicans are doubling-down with a false sense of confidence now and revealing their craziness more and more (note mittbot’s bizarre “foreign policy” sputtering today), since they think they have the upper hand, just as would be expected with our president’s rope-a-dope strategy. i saw president obama play into this even more last night when he joked about his performance at his los angeles event. love seeing him smirk when he does that….it’s like he’s giving us all a wink and nod about the strategy. and just as in 2008 when he won because of o.f.a. and “the news” never talked about that, we’re doing it again this time, and “the news” is playing right along again and thinking you win elections by “optics” and “messaging” and “news cycles.” too bad for them, they don’t realize it’s about the community organizing. thankfully president obama has always understood this and so have many of us on his team. we’ve got this, y’all…we just need make sure we get him a congress he can work with. forward!!!!

  56. 160 4morefor44
    October 8, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    so the “why obama now” video was at 30,000 views this weekend when i first saw it thanks to chips making a post about. just checked now, and it’s at 900,000 views in two days time. i’d say we have a winner with that one! i remember when president obama made that speech several months back, and was the first time i noticed his game plan about making this election a take-down of republican trickle down economics, and thrilled to see him dismantle that ronald reagan fueled evil once and for all. the animation and editing are are perfect supplement to that incredible speech. spread this video as much as you can:

  57. 162 relellit
    October 8, 2012 at 1:53 pm

    I’m not sure if I didn’t hit the submit button or if this post was deleted in “Rise and Shine” this morning. However, although it was dated September 16, 2012, I think a few snippets of this opinion piece is a great retort to the right wing fear mongers conjuring up the so-called weakness of our President.

    ” New York Times columnist William Safire said Reagan “has acted more pusillanimously than Jimmy Carter.” Polls showed most Americans thought he had done too little, prompting the president to ask, “Short of going to war, what would they have us do?”

    Under Bush, there were violent attacks on American embassies in Yemen, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, India and Turkey. A U.S. diplomat was assassinated in Sudan. Another was murdered in Pakistan.

    Barack Obama has never done anything that could compare to Reagan’s limp response to this wanton slaughter of innocents.

    So why was there a wave of fierce anti-American protests across the Middle East in 2003, as President George W. Bush was preparing to invade Iraq? The State Department was so alarmed it advised Americans to avoid 17 countries across the region and beyond.

    Under Bush, there were violent attacks on American embassies in Yemen, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, India and Turkey. A U.S. diplomat was assassinated in Sudan. Another was murdered in Pakistan.

    They are proof that the president of the United States is not the Lord of the Universe. Even if he does everything right, nasty developments will ensue.

    Certainly they did under Reagan. A U.S. Army major carrying out routine monitoring in East Germany, as allowed under a U.S.-Soviet agreement, was shot to death by a Soviet sentry. An American reporter was arrested on phony espionage charges in Moscow, forcing Reagan to negotiate to get him released. A barracks in Beirut was blown up, killing 241 American military personnel.

    But somehow, these episodes did not discredit Reagan among conservatives or the broader public. The embassy attacks likewise won’t trump all the other things Obama has done.


  58. 163 Slick9
    October 8, 2012 at 1:57 pm

    Every now and then I have to dig this out. Post the debate, I think I have to remind some people…

    Were you there……???

    Were you there when Barack met with a political strategist the day after September 11th and was told with his name, even getting a job at the post office would be damn near impossible?

    Were you there when Barack was told he would have a great future with the Democratic Party, but that his time to run was not until 2012 or 2016?

    Were you there when Barack had the audacity and temerity, he a black freshman senator with the middle name Hussein, to attempt to unseat the Democratic royal family?

    Were you there when all the pundits said, “yeah, he’s charismatic but he can’t win this nomination”?

    Were you there when someone was called “The Inevitable One”?

    Were you there when Barack was down 30pts in the polls trailing Hillary Clinton?

    Were you there when Barack said he would meet with foreign leaders we do not like and the pundits all said his naive answer would end his nomination bid?

    Where you there when Barack said if he had actionable intelligence he would send troops into Pakistan to get Bin Laden, and he was called naïve?

    Were you there when Reverend Wright’s “hate filled words” – fox news, were going to grind the Obama campaign to a halt?

    Were you there when Barack couldn’t win big states?

    Where you there when Barack couldn’t win white middle class voters?

    Were you there when Barack didn’t have enough experience?

    Chances are you were not there, but guess what, Barack Obama still managed to win the nomination without your advice. He managed to go where most thought he never could. He may have had your help canvassing or donating or making calls, but more than likely your input did not go into the campaign strategy. So while we all wait with baited breath and fret about the future of our children, let us not lose our composure. This campaign team brought us this far. This campaign team will take us all the way. Yes the McSame campaign may “appear” to have grabbed the momentum, but lies exposed to the light will eventually fall apart. This has started to happen, the Falin, I’m sorry, Palin interview last night and then McSame squirming on the view…

    In the waning seconds of the game a “panicker” is not what you want. You want a Jordan, a Michael Jordan, he who had the cajones to walk the ball down court in game 6 of the NBA finals with the Bulls down 1 point and 17seconds left in the 4th, he would then wait for the opportune moment while letting the clock run down to 5 seconds and then nail the winning basket.

    So as Senator Obama has said, “Chill the fuck out, I got this!!!”

    Since the man has become President and everybody with an opinion has offered theirs on how he should do this and how he should do that. It’s hard not to get pissed off at some of the professional (know nothing) TV talking heads, but you have to remember what Emmet Smith of the Dalla Cowboys said about opinions, they’re like a certain body part at the end of the colon, everybody has one and some people can’t help acting like one. And if the history of the campaign success in spite of all the odds is not reassuring enough, when you get discouraged, ask yourself the following questions, and remember this captain has led this ship through unspeakable storms while we slept.

    Where you there when healthcare reform was dead, when the tea party took over town hall meetings and owned the summer, when the Democrats lost Senator Kennedy’s seat to the Republicans?

    Where you there when “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” would never get repealed?

    Where you there when Donald Duck, I mean Trump was getting the best of President Obama?

    Where you there when President Obama was soft on terrorism? (Mr. Bin Laden was, and look where he is now)

    I got your back Mr. President, I got your back, and I know you got ours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  59. 167 TheWorld4Obama
    October 8, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    Yardam756: I really loved this video you posted of these awesome young men. We should help it go viral as they are such a great example of involvement in the democratic process despite the fact that they are not old enough to vote.

    Thanks for reposting it in the future threads from now on until election day. It would be awesome if some people can tweet it too.

    I am going to order that T-shirt they designed. Cute T-shirt, cute sing and cute kids.

  60. October 8, 2012 at 2:00 pm

  61. 171 JER
    October 8, 2012 at 2:01 pm

    Stream is up for President Obama Announces the Establishment of the Cesar E. Chavez National Monument – http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=1

  62. October 8, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    And not only the improving Gallup number, but the right track wrong track will go up, as well. Due to the improving jobs numbers.
    All major newspapers had headlines, just like the Tampa bay Times did on Saturday- Jobs numbers Jolt Race.

  63. 173 57andfemale
    October 8, 2012 at 2:15 pm

  64. 174 vcprezofan2
    October 8, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    I followed the link belowfrom Smartypants’ blog to the right [ “Change as a joint project between leader and led”] and feel that it’s well worth your time, if you haven’t read it yet.

    Frontline has put up a series of “artifacts” from the lives of Obama and Romney, including a letter, highlighted by Fallows, that Obama wrote to a friend in 1985 (at age 25) when he was a few months into his job as a community organizer on Chicago’s South Side. One sentence leaped out at me, because it’s echoed in Obama’s rhetoric throughout his career in a strain that’s often written off as mystical hooey — including last month, in Charlotte. Not to be coy, I’ve highlighted it below.

  65. October 8, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    A total of 284,730 ballots have been returned in all states and localities for which I have statistics.

    CALIFORNIA reports 709 returned ballots as of Friday evening (37 counties reporting)
    FLORIDA 5 counties report 14,578 returned ballots as of Saturday.
    IOWA reports 127,108 returned ballots as of Monday morning.
    KENTUCKY reports 1,567 returned ballots as of Monday.
    MAINE reports 48 returned ballots as of Monday morning.
    MINNESOTA reports 21,214 returned ballots as of Friday.
    NEBRASKA reports 68,792 ballots sent as of Wednesday.
    NORTH CAROLINA reports 29,446 returned ballots as of Monday morning (now all counties reporting).
    OHIO 50 counties report 52,256 returned ballots as of (mostly) Saturday morning. (I have updated nearly all counties based on the currently available reports. Some counties have obviously not updated their files since their reported numbers have not changed since Wednesday.)
    NORTH DAKOTA reports 3,794 returned ballots as of Saturday evening.
    SOUTH CAROLINA reports 10,827 returned ballots as of Thursday evening.
    SOUTH DAKOTA reports 10,584 returned ballots as of Saturday morning.
    WEST VIRGINIA reports 1,826 returned ballots as of Saturday.


    The Iowa early vote is especially encouraging, democrats 62%- republicans 19%!

  66. October 8, 2012 at 2:33 pm

    Obama campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki told reporters aboard Air Force One on Monday that the campaign took in more than Mitt Romney did in the 48 hours following last week’s debate.

    The Romney campaign reported raising $12 million during the period. Psaki wouldn’t say exactly how much Obama’s campaign raised.

    “Because of a strong response from our grassroots supporters… we raised more than that,” Psaki said, adding that the campaign’s daily average take in September was equal to Romney’s haul in the two days after the Denver debate.

    The Obama campaign and the DNC reported raising $181 million last month, an average of $6 million per day.

  67. October 8, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    Team Obama blasted Mitt Romney’s foreign policy speech on Monday, saying it was full of “heated rhetoric”and “chest-thumping” but few specifics.

    “This is Mitt Romney’s seventh attempt, by our count, to reboot his foreign policy,” campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki told reporters aboard Air Force One. “When you’re commander in chief, you don’t get to bring an Etch a Sketch into the Oval Office. You don’t get second chances, never mind seven chances.

    “And as the American people are looking at what he had to say today, but also his record from the last few months, the areas that should be of concern are: This is somebody who leads with chest-pounding rhetoric, he’s inexperienced, he’s been clumsy in his handling of foreign policy, and most of all, all of these factors lead to a risk that we’re going to go back to the same policies that lead us to some of the challenges we faced in the last few years.”

    Psaki said Romney “doubled down” on comments he made in the infamous 47 percent fundraising video, suggesting he didn’t want to end the war in Iraq and wanted to leave tens of thousands of troops there. “The president disagrees with him on that,” she said. She also said Romney was completely wrong when he indicated that Obama had not signed free trade agreements.

    “That is not only absurd, it’s inaccurate,” Psaki said, adding that Obama renegotiated trade agreements and made them better for American workers in the auto and meat industries.


  68. October 8, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    Leave it up to Markos with his bullshit Daily Kos poll Tuesday?
    He says Robney leading, but bulk of calls made Thursday and Friday.
    Good old daily Kos… Don’t want that Gallup number out there, do you Markos? Jeeze.
    It’s almost like he panicked…

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