It’s racism as much as ignorance df – they are not so dumb that they realize they can’t use racial slurs so they use religion instead. Imagine the outburst if Mitt Romney’s religion became the attack word of the month.
Not that I’m the literary genius myself, but it’s interesting how the people who do this kinda of thing are the absolute WORST spellers.
“Muslim lier” instead of “Muslim liar”? Come on, dude, you’re not even TRYING! 🙄
I hope so.
One of the issues I had with the debate was how both the President and Romney went over the 2 minutes.
I wanted Obama to keep it short and sweet so that he could make Mitt look like someone who would not follow the rules and look long winded.
I hope at the next debate, the moderator is more forceful with the rules and that Obama shortens his answers
There is a tactic in debating called “spreading” that involves throwing as many unproven assertions as possible at an opponent in hopes they waste time refuting lies instead of expounding their message. If the President had spent his limited time refuting every lie Romney told in Wednesday’s debate, he could not have shared his vision for America’s future or how he intended to fight for Americans who are not in Willard’s wealthy elite class. What Americans were treated to, was a President with a clear vision and message, replete with specifics, that the people have come to expect from Barack Obama. Romney’s tactic was popularized by a creationist maniac, Duane Tolbert Gish, who without facts or valid arguments to back up his creation myth ideology, drowned his opponents in lies, half-truths, and straw-man arguments in rapid bursts they could not answer in real time. Romney utilized the tactic well, but he failed to take one simple fact into account. His lies on Wednesday night do not square with his campaign rhetoric and he came off looking more transient on the issues than ever, and it is a misstep he has made throughout his run for the White House.
And just yesterday every goddamn liberal pundit under the sun couldn’t find a fainting couch fast enough to faint on to show their displeasure at President Obama’s performance at the recent debate. And now the Jobs report, good grief, can anything stop the Obama train.
Right! I think some of those pundits took a deep breath and realized they should not be dissing the Prez. I watched Bahir, Rev Al, Rachel, and Lawrence and they did not diss PBO on Thurs. Rachel even had a section that historically showed the last six incumbent presidents losing their 1st debate. Lawrence’s show was good. I was purposely staying away from Chris Matthews and Ed Schultz but accidentally caught a little of each on the beginning of my Tivo tapes seeing Ed seemed to have calmed down but not Chris.
I think desertflower’s explanation above of the tactic Mitt used was famous for getting the opponent of message should be considered when being so critical of PBO for not attacking the lies. I remember a message in ’08 saying “Relax! I’ve got this.”
I’m still glad I didn’t waste time watching Rachel, because the focus shouldn’t be “other Presidents have lost their first debate”, but “wow, how craven is Romney and how little respect does he have for the American electorate that he could bring his lying self to the national stage”. If President Obama had had a real opponent on Wednesday night, then people would actually see that he got in several excellent points. And ignoring the lies, instead of falling for the distraction, might not satisfy the “smackdown” crowd, but it demonstrated just how seriously he takes this job and his responsibility to the American people. He’s not playing games.
PBO has few if any real allies in the MSM. Most of the “liberals” we see on TV are “former” republicans. Case in point Ed Schultz. I have been saying for years that Ed is a double agent. He ALWAYS turns on PBO at the most inopportune times (remember his advice that Dems not vote in 2010 midterms). Now today I hear Ed has embraced the GOP talking point that PBO is “dumb” and “lazy”. Why would Ed, a so called liberal, embrace such hateful and damaging rhetoric against PBO a month prior to election day? The fact that such charges are patently untrue and play to racial stereotypes should be an eye opener to those who think Ed is on our side. He has been in this game for a long time, and knows he is definitely not helping the liberal cause. I suggest others, to quote Samuel L. Jackson, WAKE THE F*** UP!!!
Ed gets is boxers in a bunch over nothing. He always has. Stephanie Miller and Randy Rhodes distanced themselves from Ed Schultz years ago when they were on Air America.
Can youbfind the link. There is no way I believe that Ed called PBO dumb or lazy, so I need to hear that. I watched the Ed show yesterday and he had calmed down a lot.
Giving Joe three hours to sit on tv ranting and raving, that doesn’t make sense. Maybe one day Msnbc will get get some sense and get rid of Morning Joke.
So long as he beats CNN and last month had his best month in ratings, MSNBC would not get rid of him. Foe him to say and imply that the numbers were defective was totally wrong. The reason MSNBC in the am are not getting 1M viewers. CNBC was just as bad with Rick Santelli and his crowd really showing their true colors once more. They cheer when America is failing under president Obama, but the jeer when America does well under pres Obama.
The attack for then sen Obama was he was an Elitist. Then he was shoving things down their throats. Then his birth right was suspect and his religion was Islam. Today, is he is lazy and dumb. Now in what Universe can these things be true? Only in the Rightwing media echo chamber world. The reason, just PURE HATE, nothing more. Clinton said it at the Dem Convention in his way. Carter said it in March 2009. But what is so good about it, many of these people are a dying bunch……Mother Nature would take care of it. Time passes by. Unfortunately, they are hurt America with their hate. Pres Obama understands this. But he is human. I take my hat off to him. This nation is the Good, The Bad and the Very Ugly. I am grateful that Pres Obama is in the GOOD category.
Miss Anne is concerned about Mitt’s mental well being. Consider this: Dissociative identity disorder (DID), also known as multiple personality disorder, is a mental disorder characterized by at least two distinct and relatively enduring identities or dissociated personality states that alternately control a person’s behavior, and is accompanied by memory impairment for important information not explained by ordinary forgetfulness.
I have a suggestion and was hoping to bounce it off you guys and if you like it, a twitter person could pass it along.
The Big Bird issue seems to be gaining lots of attention. I was wondering if OFA or Dems should get a big bird costume and show up at every Romney and Ryan rally with signs like you can pay for my “salary = 3 milliionaires tax cuts” or “I am the 47%”. etc.
Big Bird is already showing up at Romney appearances. Big Bird is getting a real surge in popularity. He’s going to be all over the place——-extra production in BB Halloween costumes too.
I was hoping a t-shirt for toddlers saying Don’t Take My Big Bird Away or some such message might work with lots of little kids wearing them. What do you think? My son has two little ones and that was the first thing he mentioned about the debate.
Waiting for PBO and listening to that call-in show on CSPAN. OMG – how can those CSPAN hosts sit there and listen to that drivel without bursting out laughing? Or throwing something at the phone? They “lost” the democrat lady from KY and the next guy was droning on about “that spring thing in Iraq or Iran”. ???
Well, um, no, um, sorry, Amk, didn’t realize um YOU hadoneofthose. Hope you have a good day when it arrives. /phew! Chips, did I keep the secret? Did I? Did I? I tried hard not to lie while not revealing the surprise we are planning. 😕 /
“No props, notes, charts, diagrams or other writings can be used by the candidates; however, they can take notes on the type of paper of their choosing.The candidates cannot ask each other direct questions, but can ask rhetorical questions.The candidates cannot address each other with proposed pledges.Each candidate can use his own makeup artist.No candidate is allowed to use risers or any other device to make them look taller.The Coin Toss: At least 72 hours before the first debate, there will be a coin toss on the order of questioning and closing arguments.”
I heard there was a video out there but haven’t seen it of Mitt going back to the podium after the ending of the speech and taking something and giving it to one of his sons. I know if it was a handkerchef he wiped his face or blew his nose on it would have been highly unlikely he gave it to his son. Some say it was a handkerchef. I say it is known that Mitt lies repeatedly even his campaign says they are not going to be dictated to by fact checkers. We know he is a bully from history stories of his youth, his Univision demands, and his treatment of Jim Lehrer. So why is it hard to believe he is a cheat? He is missing the character we need in a President. Barack Obama has the character needed and he displays it daily.
A very timely rewrite of the stump speech. He led with the jobs report/unemployment, and made a tough characterization of Romney as a right wing, trickle down extremist. He also slapped down those GOPers who are trying to talk down the economy. Big bird is now a feature of the speech and bring out a good laugh. First half of this speech is a sign of a campaign that is seizing an opportunity.
I AM SO EXCITED FOR PBO TODAY AND THIS IS SO IMPORTANT…PLEASE ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL….STOP AND HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND THANK OUR LORD FOR THIS GREAT NEWS TODAY. FOR ALL POWER IS HIS AND IT IS HE WHO ALLOWS PRESIDENTS TO BE ELECTED. KEEP THOSE PRAYERS GOING. I PRAY FOR PBO EVERYDAY!…THIS…IS A YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH MOMENT!
I’m really enjoying the lady to the right behind PBO – the one with the black outfit and the shiny necklace. She reminds me of an old friend from childhood. But more than that, she is really, really loving PBO and his message. 😆 Compare her (and ALL those ladies behind him) with the typical Mitt crowd. 😦
I enjoyed her too; almost commented on her above but I’m usually too slow to comment during a speech. She seemed so happy, involved and PROUD to be there. 😆
Mitt also has no empathy, nor feelings Bob – just watching the president reaching out to those at the rally – PBO has an amazing ability to care – for everyone.
TEARS TO MY EYES AND MY HEART…I LOVE TO SEE PBO LIKE THAT!!!!! IT MAY BE RAINING OUTSIDE…BUT THE SUN IS SHINING INSIDE MY HOUSE TODAY!….MAY GOD DEEPLY BLESS YOU PBO AND STRENGTHN YOU AS YOU FACE THESE CHALLENGES AND….THE LIARS!
Wow, could those Va. women love President Obama any more? Their smiles could not be bigger looking at him and getting to shake his hand. Pure joy. Extra spunky speech today too—-liked it!
There’s GOP idiots out there saying the job figures were “made up” – just because Mitt Romney and his cohorts lie and manipulate – it seems the business world and the RWNJs cannot accept that things are going well under President Obama.
It is frightening – the lengths they will go to in their attempts to put in a puppet government under Mitt Romney. What has Mitt promised to his supporters?
What has Mitt Romney promised to his supporters?
More like what hasn’t he promised? Everything to everyone everywhere. Don’t worry 47% now he says he made a mistake he likes you. Didn’t catch I’m sorry though since his book is entitled No Apologies.
She said she’s a republican who just can’t believe how anti-women the GOP has become so she has been working hard for Pres. Obama’s reelection and is actually now a Virginia delegate.
Sorry to keep quoting another blog all day, but I really liked this comment on Kos:
“And two days after his debate “win”, Romney is on the back foot, scrambling to Mittigate his 47% remarks to an audience of unconcerned Fox viewers after Obama cleverly denied him the opportunity to do so in front of the whole nation on Wednesday, and after having provided reams and reams of excellent ad material for us to spend our $150 million on during October…. AND the jobs market is on the up again. Heck, I’ll take a debate “loss” like that one ANY time :D”
When I hear pundits saying he should have challenged every lie I see an equally frantic, volatile debate with PBO possibly being called the winner or most likely a draw. It would most likely result in his favorabilites dropping in the polls and take him off the high road causing him to lose credibility. He would not have gotten his vision for America out there. The day after fact checkers would not have much to say so the stories about the debate would have been shortened whereas now we are hearing the lies elaborated on and used in ads and on the campaign trail. The switcheroo in the 47% comment did not go out to as large of an audience and we his supporters got energized to stop the liar. I think the pundits were wrong.
The Repubs are just nuts. Not as surprised as some, the one thing I check on the Gallup poll every day is the unemployment number they list on the website from their daily survey. It has been under 8% for the last 7-10 days.
I gave my ticket to see PBO at GMU to my niece who attends Bowie State Universary. She had never seen PBO in person. She just text me this message. This place went crazy when he came on stage. OMG, OMG, OMG Thank you Aunt Donna!. Now hopefully this will inspire her and her college friends to get out there this weekend and volunteer. There’s a method to my madness 😉
The News just can’t handle ANY good figures. Always have to find something to be negative about.
Got to be kidding me? They are addicted to be negative…
Can’t they just once say one nice thing about, well how about both candidates?
Nope!
There is a fundamental difference in the way the MSM treats the two Presidential candidates. Mitt, by virtue of his numerous fuck ups and gaffes, literally forced the MSM to report negatively about him. For PBO, the MSM searches high and low to put a negative spin on everything the man does. This new aversion the MSM has for calling out lies and flip flops should erase any doubt as to their bias. The MSM painted Kerry as a lying flip flopper. They ran with a lie about Gore claiming to have invented the internet. They destroyed Howard Dean’s political career based on the hyped up “scream”. The MSM was ready to pounce on PBO no matter what he did during the debate. They wanted to put some stain on PBO (remember how the MSM attacked Gore b/c he would sigh during his debate with GWB?). They wanted to get PBO to lose his cool. PBO did not fall for their (Mitt/MSM) trap. On a side note: do those who castigated PBO for not explicitly mentioning the 47% statement during the debate now see that PBO prevented Mitt from being able to apologize for his remarks in front of the 67 million watching the debate? Mitt was forced to go on Hannity the next day to offer his mea culpa. Had PBO followed your sage and learned advice, he would have fallen into Mitt’s trap.
114,000 Americans found a job and instead of being happy for them, Mitt Romney and Republicans are complaining. Once again it shows you that the Republican Party were wishing hoping wanting Americans to suffer, just so they could have a chance to get back in power. What a bunch of creeps they are.
the adjustments for previous months are awesome: Revisions changed previously reported growth in payroll employment in July from 141,000 to 181,000 and in August from 96,000 to 142,000. The government counted 12.1 million Americans as unemployed, a drop of 456,000 over August.
To remedy this, there will be more extensive preparation for Obama before the next showdown — now much higher stakes for Obama — at Hofstra University. Obama will set up debate camp at the end of next week in Williamsburg, Va.
Obama may not be adding more rehearsal time — but as senior adviser David Axelrod says, he’s going to be more strategic about how he uses it.
And on Obama’s debate sparring partner — Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.), who wants to be secretary of state in a second Obama term — with his future in the balance, will he be able to be more aggressive and push back against Obama now that Romney has shown his stuff?
they really just need someone who has the ability to be a pathological liar, someone with no core, no sense of humanity and has no issues with continuing to spout the lies with rabid intensity, knowing he knows you know he is lying.
So anyone would do as long as they do not have a conscience.
Well said. You described Mitt to a T. I think the townhall format will heavily favor PBO. He has superior people skills, unlike Mitt who will probably try to bully the audience (or come off as fake and syrupy). I hope audience members get to ask their questions directly to the candidates. In addition, Mitt has not no idea what to expect from PBO. The meme about people want PBO to call Mitt out on his lies is growing, and will give PBO more leeway in confronting Mitt without being branded “an angry black man”. As a plus, after alll the hype surrounding this most recent debate, ratings for debate #2 will be HUGE.
Question : Is it true that Ronmey is surging in the polls? Some polls have him tied or behind one with the President? I don’t know what is accurate now. I come here because I get the truth.
Don’t be surprised with a tightening and an uptick for Mitt. the polls will lag the debate and I expect the weekend to not be pretty (hope I’m wrong but I think it’s a reasonable assessment). But we’ve done a damned good job at reframing – Mitt’s ‘strength’ is increasingly being perceived as bullying, and Mitt’s lies are replacing any negative views of PBO. No thanks to the likes of Ed Schultz, who disgracefully ran his tantrum up the flag pole of the Today Show. Schultz and Tweety are off my list forever.
When David Bender and Norman Goldman, who are often quick to criticize PBO, see the debate clearly that’s a good sign. Goldman roundly criticized msnbc for their tantrum — and I had stopped listening to him because he was so rabid about the President until the last year or so.
Gallup & Rasmussen are the only ones out so far (for the President) that include some post debate numbers. Rasmussen is the same as yesterday (President up by 2) and Gallup is one better than yesterday (President up by 5). They are tracking polls 2-4 Oct – so only 1 day is post debate.
Rasmussen has Romney improving in Ohio, Virginia and Florida – with him ahead in Florida – yet their “swing state” figures still have the President up by 5 – same as yesterday. Another group “We ask America” also has Romney improving in Florida, Ohio and Virginia.
My humble opinion is there may be 1-2 points involved but they will be gone as the employment figures and the debate lies from Romney hit anyone who temporarily changed sides.
In the pollster tracking at HP there are some state polls that show Romney ahead. Specifically the We ask america poll has Romney in Ohio (+1), Virginia (+3), and Florida (+3). Some rasumussen polls also have it close. These are not enough to suggest a movement, as I always say one poll is irrelevant, many polls paints a broad picture. We will have to wait and see what other polls show.
Hey, TOD! Friday’s good. The 7.8% is good. It’s all good!
But I just spotted ice crystals falling in lieu of rain and it’s cold here in Central Illinois and it’s only Oct. 5, so I guess that might not be so good! Yet, I’m stickin’ with glass half full!
Hi, Jackie! Before I came to the Midwest a couple of years ago, I lived in Florida for 17 years, so this is still a little piercing! Your weather sounds wonderful – enjoy it all!
I was surprised, Tally that there was not talk of the visual of Romney acting like he had ADD, sweating, and squinting almost crying with the intense stare then even wiping his mouth and upper lip before giving his final summary. There seemed to be so much more there than the Nixon sweat.
This is a great assessment of the debate and some good smackdown of the tantrum-throwers (get past the nasty quotes hurled at the wonderful eclectablog and the rest of the post is pitch-perfect):
Who cares about figuring out the Romney family. Not I. But I’m muting Andrea Mitchell’s show and that gives more time to notice the images, and she’s played a clip about three times now. Mitt’s on stage after the debate with the family. Ann pulls on his arm – maybe to get him off stage – he ignores her and keeps waving to some fictional friend in the audience. One of his sons pulls on his arm – he ignores him, still waving. Ann and son exchange knowing glances and say something to each other, and both put on the fake smiles. I’m thinking there’s a lot of eyerolling, attention seekers, even in his own family, around him.
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Yea!!! Love PBO and TOD Family
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Congrats on a Fabulous First, proud! 😀
Could it be?
Close derbingle. You’re this morning’s Sizzling Second! 🙂
I’m talking to big bird on the last thread
Chips, it’s saying that this video is private.
You see the ignorance we’re dealing with?
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/muslim-lier-spray-painted-on-obama-des-moines
It’s racism as much as ignorance df – they are not so dumb that they realize they can’t use racial slurs so they use religion instead. Imagine the outburst if Mitt Romney’s religion became the attack word of the month.
Not that I’m the literary genius myself, but it’s interesting how the people who do this kinda of thing are the absolute WORST spellers.
“Muslim lier” instead of “Muslim liar”? Come on, dude, you’re not even TRYING! 🙄
Just taking a look at the remaining debate schedule: http://www.2012presidentialelectionnews.com/2012-debate-schedule/2012-presidential-debate-schedule/ – do you think any of those “moderators” are having second thoughts on how to handle Mitt? I don’t especially like Candy or Bob, I guess Martha’s OK. What’s the word on the TOD about these “moderators”?
I hope so.
One of the issues I had with the debate was how both the President and Romney went over the 2 minutes.
I wanted Obama to keep it short and sweet so that he could make Mitt look like someone who would not follow the rules and look long winded.
I hope at the next debate, the moderator is more forceful with the rules and that Obama shortens his answers
http://www.politicususa.com/obamas-critics-misread-president-obama-fail-understand-debate-strategy.html
There is a tactic in debating called “spreading” that involves throwing as many unproven assertions as possible at an opponent in hopes they waste time refuting lies instead of expounding their message. If the President had spent his limited time refuting every lie Romney told in Wednesday’s debate, he could not have shared his vision for America’s future or how he intended to fight for Americans who are not in Willard’s wealthy elite class. What Americans were treated to, was a President with a clear vision and message, replete with specifics, that the people have come to expect from Barack Obama. Romney’s tactic was popularized by a creationist maniac, Duane Tolbert Gish, who without facts or valid arguments to back up his creation myth ideology, drowned his opponents in lies, half-truths, and straw-man arguments in rapid bursts they could not answer in real time. Romney utilized the tactic well, but he failed to take one simple fact into account. His lies on Wednesday night do not square with his campaign rhetoric and he came off looking more transient on the issues than ever, and it is a misstep he has made throughout his run for the White House.
And thus, he lives up to the name I gave him long ago: Myth Robney. C’est tout!
Just like these same stupid Dems complainers didn’t agree with the strategy of attacking Mitt and Bain Capital. at first.
excellent article DF Thanks!
Otherwise known as the Gish Gallop – http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gish%20Gallop
MSNBC live streaming is up too.
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nbcnews.com/49300887/?ocid=twitter#49300887
Don’t go to C-span early – my coffee just hit the keyboard
Too late! I’m cleaning up barf chunks right now!
Tim Kane(sp) talking
And just yesterday every goddamn liberal pundit under the sun couldn’t find a fainting couch fast enough to faint on to show their displeasure at President Obama’s performance at the recent debate. And now the Jobs report, good grief, can anything stop the Obama train.
I call them fair-weather friends.
🙄
every pundit except LOD — go watch his “Rewrite” video on the Rise and Shine post! Brilliant!
Rev Al didn’t and Maddow didn’t on her show. And neither did Bashir.
Good point, forgot about them! Thanks Nena!
Neither did Stephanie Miller from Current TV. In fact, this morning she had me laughing at Matthews’ freakout.
Right! I think some of those pundits took a deep breath and realized they should not be dissing the Prez. I watched Bahir, Rev Al, Rachel, and Lawrence and they did not diss PBO on Thurs. Rachel even had a section that historically showed the last six incumbent presidents losing their 1st debate. Lawrence’s show was good. I was purposely staying away from Chris Matthews and Ed Schultz but accidentally caught a little of each on the beginning of my Tivo tapes seeing Ed seemed to have calmed down but not Chris.
I think desertflower’s explanation above of the tactic Mitt used was famous for getting the opponent of message should be considered when being so critical of PBO for not attacking the lies. I remember a message in ’08 saying “Relax! I’ve got this.”
I’m still glad I didn’t waste time watching Rachel, because the focus shouldn’t be “other Presidents have lost their first debate”, but “wow, how craven is Romney and how little respect does he have for the American electorate that he could bring his lying self to the national stage”. If President Obama had had a real opponent on Wednesday night, then people would actually see that he got in several excellent points. And ignoring the lies, instead of falling for the distraction, might not satisfy the “smackdown” crowd, but it demonstrated just how seriously he takes this job and his responsibility to the American people. He’s not playing games.
PBO has few if any real allies in the MSM. Most of the “liberals” we see on TV are “former” republicans. Case in point Ed Schultz. I have been saying for years that Ed is a double agent. He ALWAYS turns on PBO at the most inopportune times (remember his advice that Dems not vote in 2010 midterms). Now today I hear Ed has embraced the GOP talking point that PBO is “dumb” and “lazy”. Why would Ed, a so called liberal, embrace such hateful and damaging rhetoric against PBO a month prior to election day? The fact that such charges are patently untrue and play to racial stereotypes should be an eye opener to those who think Ed is on our side. He has been in this game for a long time, and knows he is definitely not helping the liberal cause. I suggest others, to quote Samuel L. Jackson, WAKE THE F*** UP!!!
Ed gets is boxers in a bunch over nothing. He always has. Stephanie Miller and Randy Rhodes distanced themselves from Ed Schultz years ago when they were on Air America.
Can youbfind the link. There is no way I believe that Ed called PBO dumb or lazy, so I need to hear that. I watched the Ed show yesterday and he had calmed down a lot.
That should read Can you find the link. Damn IPAD.
No Joe your lying GOP candidate don’t make sense.
Sabotaging the economy, and this country well fair just so your GOP party could have a chance to win, doesn’t make sense.
Giving Joe three hours to sit on tv ranting and raving, that doesn’t make sense. Maybe one day Msnbc will get get some sense and get rid of Morning Joke.
So long as he beats CNN and last month had his best month in ratings, MSNBC would not get rid of him. Foe him to say and imply that the numbers were defective was totally wrong. The reason MSNBC in the am are not getting 1M viewers. CNBC was just as bad with Rick Santelli and his crowd really showing their true colors once more. They cheer when America is failing under president Obama, but the jeer when America does well under pres Obama.
The attack for then sen Obama was he was an Elitist. Then he was shoving things down their throats. Then his birth right was suspect and his religion was Islam. Today, is he is lazy and dumb. Now in what Universe can these things be true? Only in the Rightwing media echo chamber world. The reason, just PURE HATE, nothing more. Clinton said it at the Dem Convention in his way. Carter said it in March 2009. But what is so good about it, many of these people are a dying bunch……Mother Nature would take care of it. Time passes by. Unfortunately, they are hurt America with their hate. Pres Obama understands this. But he is human. I take my hat off to him. This nation is the Good, The Bad and the Very Ugly. I am grateful that Pres Obama is in the GOOD category.
moanin’ joke can try to spin all he likes, it is what it is and it looks good.
Miss Anne is concerned about Mitt’s mental well being. Consider this: Dissociative identity disorder (DID), also known as multiple personality disorder, is a mental disorder characterized by at least two distinct and relatively enduring identities or dissociated personality states that alternately control a person’s behavior, and is accompanied by memory impairment for important information not explained by ordinary forgetfulness.
Eggg-zzactly!!
It is difficult to debate a person with D.I.D.
Can you imagine a foreign leader having confidence in the word of a President of the US that says whatever whenever?
Good Morning Everyone
I have a suggestion and was hoping to bounce it off you guys and if you like it, a twitter person could pass it along.
The Big Bird issue seems to be gaining lots of attention. I was wondering if OFA or Dems should get a big bird costume and show up at every Romney and Ryan rally with signs like you can pay for my “salary = 3 milliionaires tax cuts” or “I am the 47%”. etc.
I would be surprised if people aren’t suiting up RIGHT now! 🙂
Good morning all. Co-sign that 9t9. 😀
Top of the monring – er, afternoon Sailor! 🙂
Yeah, I know. It’s still morning in Chicago.
OFA’s job is to register voters and get these registerd voters to the polls for this amazing POTUS.
The American people will suit up and get the Big Bird message out at ‘Mitt still ur money events”..
Big Bird is already showing up at Romney appearances. Big Bird is getting a real surge in popularity. He’s going to be all over the place——-extra production in BB Halloween costumes too.
everyday voters are already doing just that. They are even showing up at Romney rallies dressed as Big Bird. Saw pics on Facebook and also on youtube.
I was hoping a t-shirt for toddlers saying Don’t Take My Big Bird Away or some such message might work with lots of little kids wearing them. What do you think? My son has two little ones and that was the first thing he mentioned about the debate.
Damn it! Why is Pres. Obama failing as a business hating socialist?
It’s that Kenya upbringing. He just doesn’t understand the American system. I volunteer to explain it to him though! 😉
Sure you volunteer! You really, really care that Pres O ‘understand the American system’! 😉 Morning, D!
What can I say? I’m a PATRIOT!
‘Morning, VC! 😀
😆 😆 Don’t I know it! A 2008-2016 president-loving patriot!
In person, of course, Dudette! 🙂
Waiting for PBO and listening to that call-in show on CSPAN. OMG – how can those CSPAN hosts sit there and listen to that drivel without bursting out laughing? Or throwing something at the phone? They “lost” the democrat lady from KY and the next guy was droning on about “that spring thing in Iraq or Iran”. ???
TURN DOWN THE VOLUME…. and their messages are now welcomed..
Tears and shouts of ABSOLUTE JOY at the 7.8% number today. God is good. Bless you MR PRESIDENT.
GM, TOD family.
Lovely ex republican lady – Mitt wants to defund planned parenthood – and Sesame Street
Austan Goolsbee responding to Welch tweet — “Love ya, Jack, but here you’ve lost your mind.”
Yup, yup! 🙂
Austan makes me happy! 🙂
Isn’t Jack Welch another guy like Mitt who enjoys firing people?
Mitt needs to share his magical undies w/ Jack!
Good Morning TOD Family!!!
I’m so happy this morning!!!
Joe, Tweety and Ed: Fuck Off!!! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!!
Made it! Good Friday Morning TODville! Morning Pres O, yes, it’s 1 month and 1 day away!
Youtalkingabout my b’day ?
Well, um, no, um, sorry, Amk, didn’t realize um YOU hadoneofthose. Hope you have a good day when it arrives. /phew! Chips, did I keep the secret? Did I? Did I? I tried hard not to lie while not revealing the surprise we are planning. 😕 /
Good morning everyone … just now able to break free from work to say hi … and you’re gonna love this 🙂
#PRESSON
UGH …. sorry, Chips, won’t embed and I thought I had an incorrect YouTube link …. but, all of you really should watch this …
#FORWARD
Got it for ya, Bob!
Romney’s Amazing Sleight of Hand Performance!
“No props, notes, charts, diagrams or other writings can be used by the candidates; however, they can take notes on the type of paper of their choosing.The candidates cannot ask each other direct questions, but can ask rhetorical questions.The candidates cannot address each other with proposed pledges.Each candidate can use his own makeup artist.No candidate is allowed to use risers or any other device to make them look taller.The Coin Toss: At least 72 hours before the first debate, there will be a coin toss on the order of questioning and closing arguments.”
Thanks so much, dudette, and yes, thems the rules!!
I heard there was a video out there but haven’t seen it of Mitt going back to the podium after the ending of the speech and taking something and giving it to one of his sons. I know if it was a handkerchef he wiped his face or blew his nose on it would have been highly unlikely he gave it to his son. Some say it was a handkerchef. I say it is known that Mitt lies repeatedly even his campaign says they are not going to be dictated to by fact checkers. We know he is a bully from history stories of his youth, his Univision demands, and his treatment of Jim Lehrer. So why is it hard to believe he is a cheat? He is missing the character we need in a President. Barack Obama has the character needed and he displays it daily.
Gm Bob. I was just about to ask about you.
Hi amk,
Didn’t get any sleep until after 1a and was at it just a few hours later … took a break to join you folk for a late breakfast 🙂
Hope all is well for you.
#PRESSON
Yeah, I was seeing you were active very late into the night. Hope you had a good rest. My shuteye time is coming up soon.
Thanks amk – hope you have a good rest, as well!
Good Morning again all and thanks for the congrats on 1st. I made CSPAN as a caller today.
I am at the 26:00 Mark: http://www.c-span.org/Events/Washington-Journal-for-Friday-October-5/10737434734/
How did I do?
I’ll watch if after the speech proud
Sue, you were at the 2:26 Mark. You did really good and were quite informative.
http://www.c-span.org/Events/Washington-Journal-for-Friday-October-5/10737434734-4/
26:00 min mark here?
I was on a different link but it was you. You were talking about solar power, right?
Yes, from Cleveland to Houston to Florida…how manufacturing spurs on economy.
Talking the unemployment figures – I’m amazed how he just keeps going – I get tired watching
He looks very rested and fresh this morning.
WOW, he changed his speech around again. Love it.
Someone finally got tough on Big Bird – Romney gave out the best talking point!
More people are figuring it out:
Republicans are right wing racists radicals, not all of them.
I think Bill Mahr said “not all republicans are racist, but if you are racist you are probably a republican” 😉
Indeedy.
A very timely rewrite of the stump speech. He led with the jobs report/unemployment, and made a tough characterization of Romney as a right wing, trickle down extremist. He also slapped down those GOPers who are trying to talk down the economy. Big bird is now a feature of the speech and bring out a good laugh. First half of this speech is a sign of a campaign that is seizing an opportunity.
Perfect synopsis, khyber, just perfect!!!
Thank you.
#FORWARD
I AM SO EXCITED FOR PBO TODAY AND THIS IS SO IMPORTANT…PLEASE ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL….STOP AND HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND THANK OUR LORD FOR THIS GREAT NEWS TODAY. FOR ALL POWER IS HIS AND IT IS HE WHO ALLOWS PRESIDENTS TO BE ELECTED. KEEP THOSE PRAYERS GOING. I PRAY FOR PBO EVERYDAY!…THIS…IS A YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH MOMENT!
Okay, I missed what the lady said that made Pres O say she wasn’t a plant. Anyone caught it?
She received a refund from her health care company
Thanks, 99ts!
“Governor Romney was fact-checked by his own campaign”
great minds like the same statements, khyber
Tweeted it the moment he said it … 😀 😀
LOL. Lovely line.
Governor Romney was fact checked by his own campaign – planned parenthood and big bird are driving the deficits
I’m really enjoying the lady to the right behind PBO – the one with the black outfit and the shiny necklace. She reminds me of an old friend from childhood. But more than that, she is really, really loving PBO and his message. 😆 Compare her (and ALL those ladies behind him) with the typical Mitt crowd. 😦
I enjoyed her too; almost commented on her above but I’m usually too slow to comment during a speech. She seemed so happy, involved and PROUD to be there. 😆
Mitt also has no empathy, nor feelings Bob – just watching the president reaching out to those at the rally – PBO has an amazing ability to care – for everyone.
Agree fully. His empathy, for me, has always been the trait I’ve admired most, 99.
#OutPerform1936
Yes We Can
I can’t say this enough:
I love my president.
He is pretty wonderful, isn’t he?
Not to mention extremely smart. And not some one you want to play Poker against! Unless you want to lose yo’ a#*. 😆
High-five!
Hoorah!
The girls at the front sure wanted a hug
“Mitt Romney got fact-checked by his own campaign.”- President Obama
TEARS TO MY EYES AND MY HEART…I LOVE TO SEE PBO LIKE THAT!!!!! IT MAY BE RAINING OUTSIDE…BUT THE SUN IS SHINING INSIDE MY HOUSE TODAY!….MAY GOD DEEPLY BLESS YOU PBO AND STRENGTHN YOU AS YOU FACE THESE CHALLENGES AND….THE LIARS!
Yep he was absolutely fabulous out there *******
Wow, could those Va. women love President Obama any more? Their smiles could not be bigger looking at him and getting to shake his hand. Pure joy. Extra spunky speech today too—-liked it!
Pres. Obama was fanfuckingtastic today! He was amped and pumped up!
Great Tweet from Rock!!
Happy happy joy joy! 😀
I watched that episode, against my better judgement. 🙂
“EXTREME MAKEOVER”….Bwaaaah! 🙂 :)Take that Romney. PBO was on fire.
OMG UT you are on FIYAH!
There’s GOP idiots out there saying the job figures were “made up” – just because Mitt Romney and his cohorts lie and manipulate – it seems the business world and the RWNJs cannot accept that things are going well under President Obama.
It is frightening – the lengths they will go to in their attempts to put in a puppet government under Mitt Romney. What has Mitt promised to his supporters?
Over on The Daily Kos, they are coming up with names for proponents of this latest conspiracy theory. One was: Not-jobs Nut-jobs.
It’s just sad that the GOP has to do this every time.
Every single day, every single thing. Bitch/moan/lie. uugghh – their lives must really suck.
What has Mitt Romney promised to his supporters?
More like what hasn’t he promised? Everything to everyone everywhere. Don’t worry 47% now he says he made a mistake he likes you. Didn’t catch I’m sorry though since his book is entitled No Apologies.
Which one knows more abt how to be Pres candidate? .@BarackObama or .@chrishayes? Hmm, that’s a hard one! Fair weather friends ARE useless!
https://twitter.com/Dudette9t9/status/254248187739639809
Hi friend, Twitter account for the child, fool Chris Hayes is @chrislhayes not @chrishayes, just so you know.
#PRESSON
Thanks Friend. Correction coming right up!
Fixed it! Thank you Doctor Bob! 🙂
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She said that she is for gop or was for gop ?
She said she’s a republican who just can’t believe how anti-women the GOP has become so she has been working hard for Pres. Obama’s reelection and is actually now a Virginia delegate.
Thanks, UT!
You should tweet that to Chris Matthews.
Sorry to keep quoting another blog all day, but I really liked this comment on Kos:
“And two days after his debate “win”, Romney is on the back foot, scrambling to Mittigate his 47% remarks to an audience of unconcerned Fox viewers after Obama cleverly denied him the opportunity to do so in front of the whole nation on Wednesday, and after having provided reams and reams of excellent ad material for us to spend our $150 million on during October…. AND the jobs market is on the up again. Heck, I’ll take a debate “loss” like that one ANY time :D”
When I hear pundits saying he should have challenged every lie I see an equally frantic, volatile debate with PBO possibly being called the winner or most likely a draw. It would most likely result in his favorabilites dropping in the polls and take him off the high road causing him to lose credibility. He would not have gotten his vision for America out there. The day after fact checkers would not have much to say so the stories about the debate would have been shortened whereas now we are hearing the lies elaborated on and used in ads and on the campaign trail. The switcheroo in the 47% comment did not go out to as large of an audience and we his supporters got energized to stop the liar. I think the pundits were wrong.
The Repubs are just nuts. Not as surprised as some, the one thing I check on the Gallup poll every day is the unemployment number they list on the website from their daily survey. It has been under 8% for the last 7-10 days.
Yesterday I was struggling to overcome all the negativity out there, so avoided the MSM completely. Today is a new day..7.8% brings sunshine.
I LOVE my President.
https://twitter.com/NJedwina/status/254252458245767169
STREAMING LIVE: Line forms [in the rain] for Obama’s stop at CSU http://www.newsnet5.com/subindex/news/news_livestream1#ixzz28RUqaHOw
Slightly OT 🙂 Made me laugh
I gave my ticket to see PBO at GMU to my niece who attends Bowie State Universary. She had never seen PBO in person. She just text me this message. This place went crazy when he came on stage. OMG, OMG, OMG Thank you Aunt Donna!. Now hopefully this will inspire her and her college friends to get out there this weekend and volunteer. There’s a method to my madness 😉
🙂
Well done!
The News just can’t handle ANY good figures. Always have to find something to be negative about.
Got to be kidding me? They are addicted to be negative…
Can’t they just once say one nice thing about, well how about both candidates?
Nope!
There is a fundamental difference in the way the MSM treats the two Presidential candidates. Mitt, by virtue of his numerous fuck ups and gaffes, literally forced the MSM to report negatively about him. For PBO, the MSM searches high and low to put a negative spin on everything the man does. This new aversion the MSM has for calling out lies and flip flops should erase any doubt as to their bias. The MSM painted Kerry as a lying flip flopper. They ran with a lie about Gore claiming to have invented the internet. They destroyed Howard Dean’s political career based on the hyped up “scream”. The MSM was ready to pounce on PBO no matter what he did during the debate. They wanted to put some stain on PBO (remember how the MSM attacked Gore b/c he would sigh during his debate with GWB?). They wanted to get PBO to lose his cool. PBO did not fall for their (Mitt/MSM) trap. On a side note: do those who castigated PBO for not explicitly mentioning the 47% statement during the debate now see that PBO prevented Mitt from being able to apologize for his remarks in front of the 67 million watching the debate? Mitt was forced to go on Hannity the next day to offer his mea culpa. Had PBO followed your sage and learned advice, he would have fallen into Mitt’s trap.
EGG-SACK-LEE
😀
https://twitter.com/BlGBlRD/status/254256989364965376
Love This!
Hilarious. R’td.
The lower employment numbers must be driving ‘Rinse Privates’ nuts. 🙂
No yardarm756, he was already nuts. 🙂
Okay. Would you believe ‘nuttier’? 🙂
yardarm, Rank Penis was already nuts.
Probably born nuts.
^5!
excellent Dudette~!
114,000 Americans found a job and instead of being happy for them, Mitt Romney and Republicans are complaining. Once again it shows you that the Republican Party were wishing hoping wanting Americans to suffer, just so they could have a chance to get back in power. What a bunch of creeps they are.
the adjustments for previous months are awesome: Revisions changed previously reported growth in payroll employment in July from 141,000 to 181,000 and in August from 96,000 to 142,000. The government counted 12.1 million Americans as unemployed, a drop of 456,000 over August.
Good one ab. Tweeted.
RT’d! 😀
R’td
Bravo, Amk! Great tweet.
Creeps indeed, anniebella. And those who vote for them are operating off of sheer hatred- no other way to explain it.
Well said, anniebella!
Live Stream – Awaiting President Obama’s arrival in Cleveland: http://www.newsnet5.com/subindex/news/news_livestream1
Thanks, JER, for the links to my addiction of airport streams! 🙂 Rain or shine, they’re on the tarmac!
Our lovely schaeffer
I love – and follow – Frank.
Here we go again—Fl. judge rules voter purge can continue
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/10/04/3034949/judge-florida-voter-purge-can.html
https://twitter.com/NJedwina/status/254263317948952576
Chicago Sun-Times’ Lynn Sweet reports:
To remedy this, there will be more extensive preparation for Obama before the next showdown — now much higher stakes for Obama — at Hofstra University. Obama will set up debate camp at the end of next week in Williamsburg, Va.
Obama may not be adding more rehearsal time — but as senior adviser David Axelrod says, he’s going to be more strategic about how he uses it.
And on Obama’s debate sparring partner — Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.), who wants to be secretary of state in a second Obama term — with his future in the balance, will he be able to be more aggressive and push back against Obama now that Romney has shown his stuff?
They need rahmbo, the muthafuckah out there.
they really just need someone who has the ability to be a pathological liar, someone with no core, no sense of humanity and has no issues with continuing to spout the lies with rabid intensity, knowing he knows you know he is lying.
So anyone would do as long as they do not have a conscience.
Well said. You described Mitt to a T. I think the townhall format will heavily favor PBO. He has superior people skills, unlike Mitt who will probably try to bully the audience (or come off as fake and syrupy). I hope audience members get to ask their questions directly to the candidates. In addition, Mitt has not no idea what to expect from PBO. The meme about people want PBO to call Mitt out on his lies is growing, and will give PBO more leeway in confronting Mitt without being branded “an angry black man”. As a plus, after alll the hype surrounding this most recent debate, ratings for debate #2 will be HUGE.
Exactly!
brilliant tweet Amk
I second that!! Go amk!
Thanks nospin.
Time to hit the deck. Gunnite folks.
That’s a great one, amk.
best yet !!
Amk, I love the way you effectively deliver truthful Zingers on twitter!
Question : Is it true that Ronmey is surging in the polls? Some polls have him tied or behind one with the President? I don’t know what is accurate now. I come here because I get the truth.
Same as it has been, Gallup and Rasmussen closer than others, this excludes Reuters daily tracking which has the president up 5-
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
Don’t be surprised with a tightening and an uptick for Mitt. the polls will lag the debate and I expect the weekend to not be pretty (hope I’m wrong but I think it’s a reasonable assessment). But we’ve done a damned good job at reframing – Mitt’s ‘strength’ is increasingly being perceived as bullying, and Mitt’s lies are replacing any negative views of PBO. No thanks to the likes of Ed Schultz, who disgracefully ran his tantrum up the flag pole of the Today Show. Schultz and Tweety are off my list forever.
When David Bender and Norman Goldman, who are often quick to criticize PBO, see the debate clearly that’s a good sign. Goldman roundly criticized msnbc for their tantrum — and I had stopped listening to him because he was so rabid about the President until the last year or so.
Gallup & Rasmussen are the only ones out so far (for the President) that include some post debate numbers. Rasmussen is the same as yesterday (President up by 2) and Gallup is one better than yesterday (President up by 5). They are tracking polls 2-4 Oct – so only 1 day is post debate.
Rasmussen has Romney improving in Ohio, Virginia and Florida – with him ahead in Florida – yet their “swing state” figures still have the President up by 5 – same as yesterday. Another group “We ask America” also has Romney improving in Florida, Ohio and Virginia.
My humble opinion is there may be 1-2 points involved but they will be gone as the employment figures and the debate lies from Romney hit anyone who temporarily changed sides.
In the pollster tracking at HP there are some state polls that show Romney ahead. Specifically the We ask america poll has Romney in Ohio (+1), Virginia (+3), and Florida (+3). Some rasumussen polls also have it close. These are not enough to suggest a movement, as I always say one poll is irrelevant, many polls paints a broad picture. We will have to wait and see what other polls show.
Neither rain, nor sleet …
Love it!
Unemployment falling to 7.8 – now that’s an October surprise in my opinion!!
Hey, TOD! Friday’s good. The 7.8% is good. It’s all good!
But I just spotted ice crystals falling in lieu of rain and it’s cold here in Central Illinois and it’s only Oct. 5, so I guess that might not be so good! Yet, I’m stickin’ with glass half full!
Hi JOB. Phoenix is still in the high 90’s. BUT the mornings and evenings are beautiful.
Hi, Jackie! Before I came to the Midwest a couple of years ago, I lived in Florida for 17 years, so this is still a little piercing! Your weather sounds wonderful – enjoy it all!
It’s nippy here in chicago.
I was surprised, Tally that there was not talk of the visual of Romney acting like he had ADD, sweating, and squinting almost crying with the intense stare then even wiping his mouth and upper lip before giving his final summary. There seemed to be so much more there than the Nixon sweat.
THANK YOU!!!!!! I know I didn’t hallucinate that!
AF1 has landed.
https://twitter.com/FireMeElmo/status/254244438640033792
This is a great assessment of the debate and some good smackdown of the tantrum-throwers (get past the nasty quotes hurled at the wonderful eclectablog and the rest of the post is pitch-perfect):
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/05/1140618/-Really-Democrats-have-you-learned-so-little-about-Barack-Obama-in-five-years
“get past the nasty quotes hurled at the wonderful eclectablog”
That’s why I never visit DK, 57, but thank you!
That’s why I go directly to his blog: http://www.eclectablog.com/
Romney Admits Pushing Misinformation In Debate
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/10/04/960881/romney-admits-pushing-misinformation-in-debate/?mobile=nc
New post everyone:
http://theobamadiary.com/2012/10/05/this-that-and-the-other-4/
Who cares about figuring out the Romney family. Not I. But I’m muting Andrea Mitchell’s show and that gives more time to notice the images, and she’s played a clip about three times now. Mitt’s on stage after the debate with the family. Ann pulls on his arm – maybe to get him off stage – he ignores her and keeps waving to some fictional friend in the audience. One of his sons pulls on his arm – he ignores him, still waving. Ann and son exchange knowing glances and say something to each other, and both put on the fake smiles. I’m thinking there’s a lot of eyerolling, attention seekers, even in his own family, around him.