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Chat away

Yahoo: President Barack Obama greets a young supporter during a campaign event at Sloan’s Lake Park, Oct. 4, in Denver

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  1. October 4, 2012 at 1:43 pm

  2. October 4, 2012 at 1:43 pm

    If you support PBO..donate today.

  3. 10 yardarm756
    October 4, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    Close?

  4. October 4, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    Need the love. Sure am sick of all the other crap.

  5. 12 a4alice
    October 4, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    aww what a cutie pie! 😀

  6. 13 Pamela
    October 4, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    My heat is back on, just in time, chilly nights here, the house was 62F this morning! Have done the birdbaths, still continue the work of catproofing the fence along the driveway to keep the neighbor car from jumping onto the roof of my car, which is already ruined by the little bugger scratching it…. Alex is sleeping in the sunshine in the window, and I am about to have a second cup of tea!

  7. 14 lovingandlaughing
    October 4, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    Awwwwww, LOVE that little PBO supporter in the LOVE hat! My husband recently bought our three year old son a PBO hope t-shirt! 🙂

    • 15 Pamela
      October 4, 2012 at 1:54 pm

      The look of Love in the face of the little girl, AND in her Daddy’s eyes, healing, peaceful, supportive. Thank you!

  8. 17 utaustinliberal
    October 4, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    I freaking loooooove that ad.

  9. 21 PoliticalJunkessa
    October 4, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    What I like about the takeaway from the debates is that Americans are being forced to GROW UP.

    If you love instant gratification, reactivity, bald-faced lies, and having someone do your thinking for you, then Willard is your candidate. If you love thoughtfulness, consistency, facts, truth, and the challenge of analytical thinking, then congratulations — you are an adult, and Barack Obama is the one for you.

    Time to put away childish things, America.

  10. 24 Melissa
    October 4, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    Lol Watch. After their collective shitgasm yesterday, the pundits are starting to realize what we all saw all along. Romney straight up LIED!! Fact checkers have job security and working overtime to boot. Saw somewhere a funny comment ” you try debating someone with multiple personalities, and see??” Pff, the man is toast.

    • 25 57andfemale
      October 4, 2012 at 1:57 pm

      “shitgasm”. That’s absolutely perfect.

    • 26 veryslowwriter
      October 4, 2012 at 4:17 pm

      As I’ve mentioned, I live in Canada. I watched the debate on CBC. They did a (thoroughly unscientific) poll during the debate on who was winning. The final numbers were Obama 77% and Rmoney 18%. The numbers for polls taken at some universities were similar.Then I go online and people are having a complete meltdown. I don’t think the chattering pundits represent anyone — though they seem to have temporarily made people flip out.

  11. 27 57andfemale
    October 4, 2012 at 1:57 pm

    Per a request, I’m reposting this from the last thread:

  12. 35 joyfulmeme
    October 4, 2012 at 2:03 pm

    The debate commentary has been somewhat disconcerting to me. I never thought PBO was a particularly strong debater. Last night he seemed distracted and let Mitt get away with too many lies. As I watched the debate I felt the president did a good job explaining his positions. But, how does one handle a liar? Does it serve any purpose to continually call him out and he still repeatedly lies? Case and point on the $716B the president explained right away and Mitt continued to distort and lie about that several times.. .

    The problem is so many people don’t know he’s lying. They like the words and believe him. Those who have been following the campaigns are fully aware of where he’s been on various issues which is in every direction depending on the audience. This situation is depressing. I really want the president to go after him the next time around.

    Mitt will become cocky. He needs to be shut down.

    • 36 hopefruit2
      October 4, 2012 at 2:07 pm

      The President didn’t let Mitt get away with anything. He allowed Mitt to expose himself as the LIAR that he is, so that the American people could see for themselves in real time. If you heard the president’s stump speech in Denver, or you look at the ad above, you will understand why the President allowed Romney to spew uninterrupted.

      Mitt will become cocky at his own peril. And he will be shut down on Nov 6. The President knows that, you ought to know that as well.

      • 37 Kreen
        October 4, 2012 at 2:16 pm

        I like your perspective Hopefruit2. thanks for sharing.

      • 38 jackiegrumbacher
        October 4, 2012 at 2:30 pm

        HF, you phrase it beautifully. I was talking to some “older” women my age this morning and they were all repelled by Robney’s rudeness and arrogance. Simply..could..not..stand him. I suspect a lot of women feel that way.

        • 39 Pamela
          October 4, 2012 at 2:52 pm

          {{{{{{jackie}}}}}} Thank You! 🙂

        • 40 Pamela
          October 4, 2012 at 2:57 pm

          I thought so as well. I also felt what happened with Jim Lehrer was he was stunned by this despicable behavior, being cut off time and again, then insulted and threatened, showed his wisdom in choosing to let this ugly mofo have it his way; in doing so, he risked being called weak and ineffective, but if he had dominated the debate, we would not have Myth in the position he is wearing today. So, really, Jim Lehrer let the cards fall where they will. He did the right thing. He is experienced, he has seen a lot of crap fly through time, he does not deserve ridicule or criticism. He is of the old school of journalism, and he is a gentleman.

          • 41 dee
            October 4, 2012 at 3:47 pm

            I so agree!!. Been talking to family, friends, even my gynecologists this morning. Most were repelled by his bullying mannerisms. That is why I don’t fault Jim Lehrer. It is amazing how so many pundits don’t see it that way. Was listening to the “Cycle” they are still mystified. They are talking up the meme of Mitt telling ball-face lies though. I believe it will take time for them to jump on board, that the president did fine.

          • 42 carolyn
            October 4, 2012 at 3:48 pm

            Thanks for that Pamela. Jim is a gentleman, and a professional journalist. He is my cousin and I know he is. He cannot tolerate lies.

            • 43 dee
              October 4, 2012 at 4:53 pm

              Carolyn, I was defending Mr Lehrer to a few of those friends. My hubby felt the same way. I remember you writing about how he formulated his questions and his his integrity. I am sorry he had to deal with Romney’s nonsense. I watched on cspan, how he set the etiqutte for the evening, and I feel that allowed us to hear the answers fully and clearly.

        • 44 57andfemale
          October 4, 2012 at 3:40 pm

          Run some clips or listen for clips on the radio: Mitt sounds deranged, all the time. PBO sounds reasonable and informed and focused.

      • October 4, 2012 at 3:08 pm

        Very well stated, hf, and Jackie, I’m not surprised at the responses of those women.

        #FORWARD

      • 46 xtine
        October 4, 2012 at 3:30 pm

        I think he landed in Cocky already, HF!

      • October 4, 2012 at 5:14 pm

        Hopefruit–thanks. I agree with every word you say. I was at the rally this morning in Denver. The crowd was huge! The crowd was supportive. I will add, that I think our President is tired. I hope he isn’t getting sick. Let’s hope he can get a bit of a rest tomorrow.

        What I think is that maybe MR reved up the hateful greedy base. But any truly undecided people who actually plan on voting, were not impressed with that performance. They are waking up today to hear everyone talk about the lies. Now it is up to us. We need to get out there knocking the doors. We need to make triple sure that every President Obama supporter gets their vote in.

    • October 4, 2012 at 2:19 pm

      If Mitt becomes cocky, that’s good news for us. I think your point about debating a liar says it all. PBO could have called out every one and never explained his ideas. The fact checkers and media are doing the work today and the message is so wide-spread, *Mitt Lied*, that it will penetrate to everyone with ears to hear.

    • 49 veryslowwriter
      October 4, 2012 at 4:24 pm

      Not depressing at all. Today’s numbers show the President is ahead even more. The talking heads don’t know anything.

  13. 50 hopefruit2
    October 4, 2012 at 2:03 pm

    KitchenAid Forced To Apologize Over Tweet About Obama’s Grandmother

    // In the days since Citizen’s United, corporations are free to offer political opinions in whatever way they choose, including with unlimited contributions. However, as KitchenAid learned after Wednesday night’s debate, political opinions can come at a serious cost. During the debate, President Obama spoke of his grandmother who helped raise him. She died just three days before the 2008 election. @KitchenAidUSA sent this tweet in response: “Obamas gma even knew it was going 2 b bad! ‘She died 3 days b4 he became president’.”

    You know a joke is tasteless when even Michelle Malkin tweets, “Yikes. BAD move.”

    The tweet was quickly deleted, but not before it was hashtagged and added to NBC’s debate conversation. KitchenAid has 25,000 Twitter followers. As of Thursday morning, KitchenAid is still in damage mode. First they tweeted this, “Deepest apologies for an irresponsible tweet that is in no way a representation of the brand’s opinion.” Reportedly, the tweet was intended to only be seen internally. The person who sent the tweet has been fired. Cynthia Soledad, Director of Marketing for KitchenAid is heading the company’s apology blitz.

    But what are KitchenAid’s real political motives? KitchenAid is a subsidiary of Whirlpool Corporation. OpenSecrets.org shows them giving to both parties, but their donations favor Republicans almost 2 to 1. However, that doesn’t show any anonymous donations they might have given to Super PACs.

    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/10/04/kitchenaid-forced-to-apologize/

    • 51 PoliticalJunkessa
      October 4, 2012 at 2:10 pm

      SMDH. 👿

    • 52 jackiegrumbacher
      October 4, 2012 at 2:33 pm

      Truly disgusting, as if saying it was intended for “internal” viewing makes it better. Hard to get lower than insulting a person’s dead grandmother. Kitchen Aid will certainly never be an appliance in my home.

  14. 53 dotster3
    October 4, 2012 at 2:05 pm

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  16. 55 Soca Sweet
    October 4, 2012 at 2:11 pm

    Chips, please put the tweet on the last thread about Wall Street and Sesame Street on the Front Page

  17. October 4, 2012 at 2:16 pm

  18. 64 prettyfoot58
    October 4, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    Why the Pundits are Wrong About the Debate/Lynn Parramore

    …You let your opponent jump up and down and make excitable noises. Which is precisely what Romney did. Some have read Romney’s stance as aggressive, others as pushy, but there’s one word that you’re unlikely to hear: “presidential.” Makes for good theatrics. But it won’t win you the White House.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lynn-parramore/why-the-pundits-are-wrong_b_1939137.html?utm_hp_ref=tw

  19. 65 squarepeg
    October 4, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    • 67 Pamela
      October 4, 2012 at 3:02 pm

      Lyin’Ryan had best be reminded he is standing across from none other than Joseph Robinette Biden, a man messed with at one’s own peril. JRB is VP, not POTUS; he was a gentleman through and through with that wordsmith from wasilla, I hope he tears strips off the little twerp vp candidate.

      • 68 veryslowwriter
        October 4, 2012 at 4:29 pm

        He HAD to be polite to Caribou Barbie or be called a sexist. No such barriers exist for Ryan. People don’t like him. Not even a little. Joe will rip him up, set the pieces on fire and then stomp on the ashes. I look forward to it.

  20. 71 FoxfireTX
    October 4, 2012 at 2:27 pm

    Reposted from last thread…
    Love the new TRUST ad. And they have material for 30 more. Hope they keep pumping them out. As to MSNBC, I hope we all make them pay in ratings. The only ones I’ll watch after their hysteria last night is Martin Bashir and Rev Al. I had several others set on my DVR and they have now been deleted. I have not been able to stand Chris Matthews for quite some time but I agree with the poster above, last night he was WORSE than Rush Limbaugh. Never again.

  21. October 4, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    Will the real Mitt Romney please stand up?

    Get’em!

  22. 74 FoxfireTX
    October 4, 2012 at 2:31 pm

    What Romney did last night is apparently a debate strategy called “Gish Gallop”. Interesting diary on it at Daily Kos: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/04/1139926/-Romney-Won-Using-a-Debate-Technique-Called-the-Gish-Gallop

    • 75 Diane
      October 4, 2012 at 3:29 pm

      You can call it “gish gallop” I call it effective. I know that many here won’t hear it, but it was not even close. I love this President and the first lady, and I will work harder now because I know that nothing is sewn up. Last night was ugly. Maybe as some have said this is 10th dimensional chess, but from everyone I have heard from in my red area of the world they see it as a win for Mitt. Most of them do not get their news from you tube truth team ads. Fortunately, POTUS is a very quick study and this shit won’t work again. Unfortunately, many people won’t view the later debates. However, POTUS’s ground game is unbelieveably sharp and I believe that we will prevail.

      • 76 nabsentia23
        October 4, 2012 at 3:36 pm

        In order for this tactic to be effective, Romney has to be likeable. He’s not!

        That’s a major problem with Romney that other GOP candidates in his position didn’t have to deal with. Romney is missing that key ingredient that allowed the GOP to bamboozle the American electorate for 40 years…likeability. Likeability helps a liar get away with lying.

        • October 4, 2012 at 4:27 pm

          His likeability ratings improved greatly last night. We cannot be like the ostrich heads at FOX. We need truth. We need to be reality-based.

          • 78 nabsentia23
            October 4, 2012 at 4:33 pm

            Sorry, but his likeability did not improve.

          • 79 nabsentia23
            October 4, 2012 at 4:41 pm

            And please don’t tell me that you are basing your views on that BS CNN poll? You know, the one that oversampled white men, over 50 from the South?

            Being “reality-based” doesn’t mean always being overly negative and saying that the sky is falling. And if you think the people here at TOD are ostrich heads, you haven’t been reading the comments (especially the ones with links to other sites). Trust me when I say this, I wouldn’t be coming to this site as often as I do (mostly as lurker) if it was if mostly consisted of ostrich heads.

          • 80 lisalovesobama
            October 4, 2012 at 5:24 pm

            i call bullshit. you are being extremely disingenuous.

      • 81 57andfemale
        October 4, 2012 at 3:46 pm

        Were they going to vote for PBO anyway? I think not.

        Yeah, we’ve got some work to do. Let’s have PBO’s back — he cannot and shouldn’t have to do it alone. He needs us more than ever. And let’s be clear — progressives can get lazy and complacent, real fast. This is not insurmountable, and that’s what I’m hearing around the water cooler. To be fair, the PBO supporters in my office were not happy at all with last night’s performance, but all of them are more vigilant than ever and expect us to use Mitt’s lies (which are getting plenty of traction today) and still win this thing.

      • 82 sabreen60
        October 4, 2012 at 3:51 pm

        Exactly what would you expect from your “red area” of the world? Everybody from CNN down is calling Mitt out for all the lies. RWNJs are NOT going to vote for President Obama. It is astounding that people expected President Obama to counter each lie that Romney told. The President said he intended to lay out his plan-his vision. Had he used up all his time countering Mitt’s lies, he would not have been able to give us his plan. Maybe you should visit blogs like ThinkProgress where the lay out all the lies Mitt told AND all the issues he admitted to like turning Medicare into a voucher program. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink – old cliche, but non the less true. People who are interested in learning the truth will. Those who are looking for some kind of emotional satisfaction either are not capable or won’t engage in critical thinking.

        • 83 Diane
          October 4, 2012 at 4:39 pm

          I agree with you Sabreen 60, My point was that those who don’t critically think still vote and we all should do the work of getting POTUS re-elected. But to pretend last night was a win for us in many circles is not correct and to pretend that those who can still be won over read think progress, steve benen, charles pierce, etc. is not realistic. It is realistic to say I will do more from now until the election to get POTUS re-elected.

          • 84 nabsentia23
            October 4, 2012 at 4:48 pm

            So what if Romney “won” last night. He’s a terrible campaigner and he will not be able to maintain any positive momentum he got last night. I’m already waiting for his next “gaffe.”

            And I honeslty don’t think anybody here is expecting independent voters and undecideds to be won over by the liberal blogosphere. And it was these people that Obama was talking to. These voters just don’t see the debates the same way political junkies do.

        • 85 nabsentia23
          October 4, 2012 at 4:52 pm

          If Romney used the Gish Gallop debating technique, then he deliberately intended to flood the debate with so many lies that it would have been impossible for Obama to address them all without 1) sacrificing his own message and 2) becoming unhinged and rattled.

  23. 86 FoxfireTX
    October 4, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    Has anyone seen anything on the size of the crowd in Denver today?

  24. 91 hopefruit2
    October 4, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    MY GOODNESS – Look at that crowd already waiting for our President this afternoon in Wisconsin!!!!

  25. 92 cindysweatt
    October 4, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    Hey, I was there!

  26. 96 JER
    October 4, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    Local stream for VP Biden with great sound: http://www.wowt.com/news/misc/131255244.html

  27. 100 a4alice
    October 4, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    Amazing…. PBO is like the energizer bunny he just goes and goes and goes ~ I can’t figure out where he gets all his energy from! (I say this enviously! I’m his age but I don’t have nearly this kind of stamina).

  28. October 4, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    Of course, this may mean nothing, but, top story when you check Yahoo Mail? “Obama mocks Romney as ‘getting tough on Big Bird’”

  29. 102 lamh35
    October 4, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    here’s what gonna happen. the Romney camp & it’s surrogates & supporters & conserv bloggers, commentators and the like, will be so “energized” by last nights debate performance, that they will do what they always do…over-reach & cross the line. it happened last night with the KitchenAide tweet about POTUS grandma & it happened already this morning in the form of Romney surrogate Sunnunnu! Even Mrs Greenspan was taken aback and actually asked himif he wanted to take back that is was calling the POTUS “lazy”.

    Romney Surrogate: Obama Is ‘Lazy And Detached’ (VIDEO) http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/romney-surrogate-obama-is-lazy-detached

    they just can’t help themselves.

    • 103 lamh35
      October 4, 2012 at 3:18 pm

      they can’t help themselves….

      “Romney Campaign Chair On Obama: ‘When You’re Not That Bright You Can’t Get Better Prepared’
      http://thkpr.gs/PAMqLC via @thinkprogress

      • 104 57andfemale
        October 4, 2012 at 4:30 pm

        Yeah, your guy has done nothing BUT prepare for the last decade and still couldn’t find the truth if it bit him in the ass. Our POTUS has a real job.

  30. 105 utaustinliberal
    October 4, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    Click on the link. Liberals are so freaking creative.

  31. 107 hopefruit2
    October 4, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    Romney Didn’t Win Hearts In Last Night’s Debate, According To Twitter

    // Even though yesterday’s presidential debate looked like a big win for Romney, the tweets tell a different story. Researchers at SAP, a software company, tallied the tweets and analyzed their sentiment and discovered some surprises. Folks on Twitter generally thought that Romney won the debate. But he didn’t win their hearts. The negative sentiment towards Governor Romney far outweighed the positive. In contrast, the sentiment towards President Obama outweighed the negative. //

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-analysis-denver-presidential-debate-2012-10#ixzz28MI5O9MO

  32. 108 donna dem 4 obama
    October 4, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    Hello TOD!

    It’s been a rough week for me but not for the reasons you may think. You see, a good co-worker friend of mine died on Sunday and this morning was her funeral. Susan had a wonderful sense of humor and a big, kind, generous heart. We spent many hours bantering over the years (even before PBO) about Dem vs Rep policies. She was a staunch Republican. She kept me on my toes politically speaking and will be greatly missed. 😦

    My words of wisdom today are that life is too short to be nipping at each others heels. Emotions run high after a debate such as last nights but all of us here want PBO to succeed and win this November. Some of us process things differently than others. Fear brings out some strong reactions in people. I have no desire to see TOD turn into a whinefest about what PBO should or shouldn’t be doing but please can we allow people the space to get whatever trepidations they may have out of their system? I have had to endure person after person step into my office today releasing their angst over last nights debate. At times I want to scream, “Are you crazy” but then I remember we are all human and all they really want is for the President to win 😉

    For those who are worried, the best medicine to overcome “concern” or “fear” is to visit a local OFA office and look at the hard work that is being done on behalf of our President. These people sacrifice family, a personal life and all their time to this campaign. They can’t be deterred by what one pundit or the other said on some cable tv show. They roll up their sleeves and get to work everyday right through Election Day. This is how we will win.

    This election is about YOU. So make your mark in this campaign and lay it all on the line the next 4 weeks because this is what will make a difference on November 6th.

  33. 117 hopefruit2
    October 4, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    WOW..these people are not happy campers…they are now relegated to overflow!! 😦 😦

  34. 120 Pamela
    October 4, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    Youse Guys! I only need $86.00 on my FR page to reach my 3rd goal! So stoked! Once it gets there, I WILL RAISE IT! WooHoot! Y’all are so wonderful, kind and generous, small wonder PBO is loved so much ’round here! 😆

  35. 121 whatisworking
    October 4, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    So I just spent an hour calling folks in CO. Asking for their support. Mostly D and U.

    I elderly woman – said she watched the debate and was now voting for PBO. She was a Dem, who had been disappointed in the speed of the recovery and thought Romney might be better. After listening last night she was convinced that sticking with Obama would be better.

    I had one mid aged Dem man who said he was supporting the President but wanted to see him be more aggressive with Romney’s lies.

    I had one mid aged Dem female who said she might not vote because they had just lost their house of 22 years. I let her talk. . I told her if I was in her shoes I would be devastated. I said I thought the President wanted her family to get help (she heartily agreed), then I said if she didn’t vote than someone else’s voice would fill the void. At the end she was talking about voting. I’m not sure I convinced her but I nudged her.

    I had no one say they would be supporting Romney, not one.

    I was using the predictive dialer so I reached lots of folks in an hour.

    For those who are trying to find a way to get your spirits up and your MOJO back, phone banking, door knocking, voter registration, is the answer. If you can’t make calls from home find a way to get to an OFA office, they can get you started. There is nothing more comforting than talking to voters who are not political junkies, who don’t over analyze, who just call it like they see it, and see Romney as bad for the country.

    I do not mean to insult Chips when I say this, but 1 hour of calling voters did a lot more to lift my mood than 1 hour of reading and responding to the comments on this blog. There used to be a blogger who would say – everyday – what can you do today to help re-elect the President. For the next 33 days that is the question we need to ask – not who won the debate.

    Let’s make today a day of strong donations and lets use this blog to share what we are doing on the ground to re-elect the President.

  36. October 4, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    Not yet confirmed but wanted you to all know ….

    Will keep looking for a confirmation …

  37. October 4, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    Good lord, I’m having to hold hands on Twitter.

  38. 131 taiping1
    October 4, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    http://designforobama.org/image/693. Here’s a great poster to share: Big Bird for Obama

  39. 132 hopefruit2
    October 4, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    Oh my…Vp Biden broke it down for us. I can’t wait to see him debate Lyin’ Ryan next week! Go Joe!!!

    • 134 xtine
      October 4, 2012 at 3:42 pm

      Thanks, JER! It looks cold over there. I like seeing the lady SS doing her thing! OK, I’m GOTV so he can keep riding AF1 and The Beast! 🙂

  40. 135 Tally
    October 4, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    Randi Rhodes is ON, and agrees with me. In what universe does a LIAR win a debate? They don’t.

    http://www.iheart.com/live/197/

  41. 138 utaustinliberal
    October 4, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    I checked their twitter page and they’ve been telling students to go to the overflow area. Students turned out for Pres. Obama. 😀

  42. 145 Tally
    October 4, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    I’ve been buried at work, and with rehearsals for my show, so I’m not sure this has been mentioned:

    What have DRUDGE & RUSH been harping on all week? The OH NOES OBAMA IS BLACK video from 2007. I think that was bait for when Mitt went on his serial liar binge BLACK OBAMA might show up, and they could scream: OH NOES IT’S ANGRY BLACK MAN! We can’t have ANGRY BLACK MAN AS POTUS!!!

    I personally don’t care if my POTUS is ANGRY BLACK MAN or not. I just want the smartest man in the room. I’ve got that. I’m happy.

    • 146 EricFive
      October 4, 2012 at 3:52 pm

      Totally agree with your take Tally. Also agree with you about PBO’s debate “performance”. PBO looked and acted Presidential. Mitt looked and acted like a desperate liar who refused to provide specifics of his own plans. It was a debate not a shouting match. One does not “win” a debate by lying. You may win the news cycle, but as the lying comes to light that victory will be short lived. Lying during a debate is CHEATING. Mitt is the sprinter who used steroids to win the gold, only to be disgraced and stripped of his medal after it is discovered that he cheated.

  43. October 4, 2012 at 3:40 pm

  44. 148 Tally
    October 4, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    Also – I feel I watched a different debate than all of the hysterical people.

    I saw a very panicked Romney nervously, desperately talk over everyone, being a Professional Psychological Projection dude who was busy lying about everything while accusing POTUS of lying. Everything that came out of his mouth has been debunked a bazillion times.

    I also saw POTUS wondering why he had to waste time sharing the stage with a hack who acts like a 5-year old toddler constantly saying, “Nuh uh”, and, “I know you are but what am I?”

    What is baffling to me is everyone saying POTUS didn’t call him out at all, wtf were they watching? He did several times. I heard it. But then maybe I was LISTENING with the volume actually on.

    One guy was INFUCKINGSANE, desperate, and incomprehensible – a friend said at one point, “WTF? He just contradicted what he just said – and it makes no sense”, trying to bully his way through and not allow anyone else to talk. (He also acted like he was on speed.) Validating Ann’s concerns about his mental stability.

    And the other guy was the President.

    One of the local radio guys this morning said it was like an AUDITION, and substance doesn’t count, and I thought, uhm….. actually, it matters a LOT – if you’re reading from My Fair Lady when you’re auditioning for King Lear you’re not only NOT going to get cast, you’re wasting everyone’s time, and being hugely disrespectful.

    Maybe it’s me, as a female, watching… but Romney was so off-putting and bullying; talking over everyone/filibustering with nonsense and lies, I DO NOT WANT THAT AS MY PRESIDENT.

    Someone who doesn’t understand MATH, the physics of pressurized airplane cabins along with your wife being concerned about your mental stability (which was GLARINGLY OBVIOUS last night.)

    • 149 Melissa
      October 4, 2012 at 3:48 pm

      U’re right Tally. One of my neighbors said that Romney appeared “manic ” last night and that was not a good luck. Very weird that ppl wanted an Ed Schultz or Bill Maher to show up there. No thank you!!

      • 150 Tally
        October 4, 2012 at 3:54 pm

        He was manic. Scary manic.

        • 151 JER
          October 4, 2012 at 3:56 pm

          Can we say Dissociative identity disorder.

        • 155 57andfemale
          October 4, 2012 at 4:37 pm

          Listen to clips — they’re all over progressive radio — the difference between the two of them is alarming.

          However, Bill Press is off my tee vee for awhile. And Ed Schultz can eff himself — him of little facts, tons of emotion and just as much incoherence.

          • 156 Tally
            October 4, 2012 at 4:48 pm

            Yeah – he’s a blathering mess.

            I get why people are upset. We ALL want to smack Romney. We wanted to vicariously live through Obama doing it – the way we would. That’s about as realistic as herding cats.

            • 157 57andfemale
              October 4, 2012 at 5:17 pm

              I do understand it, if we’re going to be reality-based. What inflames me is that so many went apeshit crazy, led by our alleged progressive media on msnbc. I’ve never seen such a disgraceful display. When they could have turned it around against Romney and used that energy for good, they acted like whiny children.

      • 159 terim
        October 4, 2012 at 4:09 pm

        Tally & Melissa, this is the way I felt. I thought Romney acted quite manic. At times, I was actually incredulous watching him. It was another clear indication that he is not suited for the office of President of the United States. Heaven forbid!!

      • 160 EricFive
        October 4, 2012 at 4:11 pm

        People’s reaction to this debate on this site was totally over the top. I said on a prior post that I think many who are complaining about PBO’s “performance” either did not watch the debate or were not listening. PBO called out Mitt’s bs on numerous occassions, but he refused to lower himself to Mitt’s level. PBO could not appear angry or rattled by Mitt’s lying. He had to stay cool, calm and under control. Had PBO acted otherwise, we would be hearing about how PBO was rattled, lost his cool and did not appear Presidential. All this praise the MSM is heaping on Mitt was predicted weeks/months ago.

    • 161 xtine
      October 4, 2012 at 3:53 pm

      Thanks, Tally. My take too! 🙂

    • 162 Obama Grandmama
      October 4, 2012 at 3:53 pm

      I thought people (pundits) would talk about Romney’s body language of his blinking almost crying stare, his fidgeting and head turning, and his wiping his upper lip with a handkerchef while Obama summarized. That compares to them saying Obama looked tired and looked down too much. For a week all you saw on the shows was the replay of Kennedy vs Nixon debates with Nixon’s sweating, Gore’s walking up on Bush considered being too aggressive, and Reagan’s zingers then they spin this against Obama. Amazing!

    • October 4, 2012 at 4:04 pm

      Tally, excellent summary, as always, and, nope, you didn’t need to be a female to detect an unhinged, frightened, liar. He’s like every Bully I’ve ever had to deal – it never went well for any of them, btw, and #PBO owned #UnhingedMitt in so many elegant ways, last night, and proved it this morning in Denver. Even the dimmest bulb in the #NEWSTAINER chandelier should have caught the message, this morning.

      #FORWARD

    • 166 57andfemale
      October 4, 2012 at 4:35 pm

      That’s what my husband and I saw as well. I thought when Mitt said “Absolutely!” to no additional revenue, he’d lost the debate entirely.

    • 168 vitaminlover
      October 4, 2012 at 7:51 pm

      Spot on!

  45. 169 Linda
    October 4, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    FROM AP: Ann Romney to guest-host ‘Good Morning America’..

    hahaha….didn’t they also have Palin as a guest hostess or was the the Today show disaster ?

  46. October 4, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    WHOA. WHOA. WHOA.

  47. 176 sabreen60
    October 4, 2012 at 3:58 pm

  48. 179 jacquelineoboomer
    October 4, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    Well, what a great cheerful visit I just had from an SEIU member at my front door, canvassing for a local woman Dem running for Congress. And my yard sign will be here, soon. She knew every issue out there on behalf of her candidate, whom I had seen trashed by Repukes on local TV.

    We were yacking for 20 minutes. I don’t know who had better talking points on behalf of President Obama – she or I – I’ll call it a match, although it wasn’t a contest since we were on the same side, because I was able to add to the great stuff she was saying and both of us were already familiar with it all.

    She knew a gazillion facts about President Obama’s record, and I laughed and told her she was preaching to the choir.

    One of her quotes to me about Republicans was, “My mother used to say, ‘You keep lying about me, and I’ll start telling the truth about you.'”

    Her visit kind of reminded me of a cartoon I saw once. Two older women were sitting on a park bench. An older man stopped by, leaned over, and said, “May sunbeams fill your life. Pass it on.” The sun’s not out here today, but it did stop by for a few minutes for me, after bracing myself all morning to hear more lyin’ lies about PBO after last night! [Can you tell I’m a child of the ’60s?]

  49. October 4, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    I am not going to lie, last night was rough for me! Mainly because I am so protective of President Obama. I spent a bit too much time listening to the negative chatter 😦 but then I did what I have been doing since 2008. Whenever I find that I have allowed too much noise to enter my “Obama” space, I pull out this picture and to tell you the truth, last night, once I did that I felt just fine!

    http://www.bagnewsnotes.com/2008/02/your-turn-floats-like-a-butterfly/

  50. 183 xtine
    October 4, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    Eclectablog:

    President Obama’s take on last night’s debate (you’re going to LOVE this):
    Who are you and what did you do with Mitt Romney???

    President Obama got back on the campaign trail today in Denver and it’s clear that (a) he’s not the least bit deflated by last night’s debate and (b) Mitt Romney’s massive shift in several positions has not escaped him in the least.

    More here: http://www.eclectablog.com/2012/10/president-obamas-take-on-last-nights-debate-youre-going-to-love-this.html

  51. 184 criquet
    October 4, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    Mad Hatters World! Up is down, down is up.


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