Rise and Shine

Mooooooorning everyone – a bit of a busy bee this morning, but will catch up asap with the news. Chat away 😉

129 Responses to “Rise and Shine”

  1. 1 Dudette
    October 2, 2012 at 9:04 am

    Good Morning!

    • 8 Pamela
      October 2, 2012 at 9:07 am

      I could not get onto the last thread at all! iPad would load and load, then jump back to home page! So, I found you all here! G’day Chips!

  2. 10 Dudette
    October 2, 2012 at 9:04 am

  3. 11 Proud Former White House Intern
    October 2, 2012 at 9:04 am

    GM TOD

  4. October 2, 2012 at 9:06 am

    Good morning Chips and TOD, Have a great Tuesday.

  5. 16 Dudette
    October 2, 2012 at 9:07 am

    If women vote in November, Barack Obama will be re-elected. It’s actually that simple.

    • 17 Pamela
      October 2, 2012 at 9:08 am

      Women WILL Remember in November… I’m sure of it. We have come too far on the labors of our mothers and grandmothers to go back now.

    • 18 Bill R.
      October 2, 2012 at 9:26 am

      Okay, I don’t see anyone writing much about this demographic statistic in polling. Women are 51% of the population. But they also vote in a larger percentage than men. In 2008 they voted 66%-62% compared to men. ( http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/07/20/census-bureau-heres-who-voted-in-2008/ ) So when the polls show an 18-20% advantage of women voting for men, does the pollster also factor in that women are a significantly larger percentage of the voting public than men in their voting sample. I haven’t dug into the internals of these polls, for example, today’s Quinnipiac poll, to determine whether that calculation is made. But I have seen also an article in the National Journal referencing Charles Cook that blue collar “waitress moms” are going strongly for Obama. The GOP ‘s war on women and attempt to turn the clock back to the 1950s is going to bring out women in even larger numbers I believe. Women voters are going to win this election for all of us.

      • 19 hopefruit2
        October 2, 2012 at 9:36 am

        I have a lot of concerns about the way these polls are conducted. For example, I wouldn’t be surprised if they underpolled minority men in their samples leading to an over-sized male lead for Romney. I can’t fathom why at this stage PBO would be trailing Romney by double digits among men, when you consider that in 2008 he was dead even with John McCain for the same demographic. I could see him trailing by maybe 1-4 pts but no more.

      • October 2, 2012 at 9:45 am

        That is what I have been saying, but I guess you have to consider that AB•2A=2Asquared B.
        And that is how we come to the conclusion, that we are all doomed.

  6. 23 vcprezofan2
    October 2, 2012 at 9:07 am

    Dudette! Congrats, my gurl! 😆 😆

    Good Morning, TOD Family! Good Morning visitors! Good Morning OFA! Is it Wednesday yet? 😉 I can’t wait to see our President standing beside that other guy who apparently looks so presidential (as per O’Reily)! My laptop is really sluggish this morning…probably tired of me.

    • 24 Pamela
      October 2, 2012 at 9:10 am

      G’day VC, I don’t have much time this morning, busy week, but a day off is calling to me ~ Thursday! Woot!

      • 25 vcprezofan2
        October 2, 2012 at 9:19 am

        Thursday, eh? 😎 You and I can hang out in the village for a bit. Make sure you water the birds early and do everything else you feel you must do. I already know I’m not working then because I have a doctor’s appointment for 9:15am. Once I get back I expect you to put your feet up and we can review THE debate, while brainstorming ways to do our part to help going forward. See you at lunch time.

        • 26 Pamela
          October 2, 2012 at 9:26 am

          It’s on my calendar as of NOW! Lucky for me you are a few hours earlier than I, because this woman is going to SLEEP IN! (well, after I get up to feed the kitty!) I’ll be waiting for the gas company to come in and re-light the pilot on the furnace, then dentist in the afternoon. But other than that, I’m really resting.

    • 30 Dudette
      October 2, 2012 at 9:11 am

      Thanks vc!!

  7. October 2, 2012 at 9:09 am

    Good morning TOD Family. Off today and looking forward to listening to the debates from last night but alas..cable is out again today, Counting on you to fill me in.

  8. October 2, 2012 at 9:11 am

    Good Morning, Everyone 🙂

  9. October 2, 2012 at 9:12 am

    This what Mitt america will look like cheap “inexpensive labor” as a top selling point.

    Romney’s ties to Global Tech were first documented last month in a Boston Globe report that noted the appliance-maker promoted itself to investors by touting “inexpensive labor” as a top selling point. A 1998 company prospectus reviewed by the Globe also promoted the fact that the appliance-maker had an “overall effective tax rate that may be less than that of U.S. corporations.”
    Bain capital affiliate Brookside Capital Partners Fund, which listed Romney as its president and CEO at the time, bought a 6 percent share of Global Tech, according to Securities and Exchange Commission documents reviewed by the paper and ABC News.

  10. October 2, 2012 at 9:20 am

    Stewart carrying water for the GOP yet again. Obama playing politic with the attacks in libya. Stewart was pushing several right wing talking points regarding the attack in Libya.

    • October 2, 2012 at 9:32 am

      That’s because Colbert hammers Robney every night. And Colbert is much funnier

    • 38 vcprezofan2
      October 2, 2012 at 10:29 am

      GM, Clun. How are you today?

      Stewart blotted his copy book (lord that expression dates me 😆 ) with me a long time ago when his criticism of PBO started to seem calculated. You know, IMO if Pres O was ‘playing politics’ in Libya he wasn’t ‘playing’. He was/is doing whatever because he believes doing so is in the best interest of the country. I’m not saying PBO is infallible, just that he has provided me enough evidence that he cares far more about America and Americans than any of his detractors. PBO has also shown he cares more about PEOPLE, all people, not just the ones in Stewart’s (or anyone else’s) corner of the world! So while Stewart and his ilk try to squeeze out all they can from the Libya tragedy with their talking points, the President will address the nation at an appropriate point and tell them what the facts. Pres Obama has never been afraid to state his views, stand behind his decisions and accept responsibility. I can’t say the same about those other guys.

    • October 2, 2012 at 11:25 am

    • 42 57andfemale
      October 2, 2012 at 9:29 am

      this is a MUST-READ, even if you deplore dKos.

      • 43 yardarm756
        October 2, 2012 at 1:21 pm

        Willard is exactly the person that Grover Nordquist is looking to put in the WH. Put your crown on, smile for your royal subjects and sign whatever is put in front of you.

        • 44 57andfemale
          October 2, 2012 at 1:43 pm

          Norquist and Rove. With nary a peep out of their puppet.

          I loathe Bush. I loathe Gingrich. But I believe that if they were asked to push the red button they’d say, “What am I about to do?” I truly believe that DimMitt wouldn’t have a qualm. Bibi calls him, tells him to bomb Iran, DimMitt decides if it helps him politically in the next news cycle and he does it. He’s truly a sociopath.

    • 45 veryslowwriter
      October 2, 2012 at 11:14 am

      “The aide was told that the pending economic collapse meant, you won’t be able to get a 20-dollar bill out of an A.T.M.”
      What a bunch of morons. Reminds me of the headless chickens carrying on about the Y2K “bug” that was going to plunge us all into the dark ages. The sky is falling!!!

      • 46 57andfemale
        October 2, 2012 at 11:59 am

        No — that was true in this case. the overnight borrowing is what transfers the money in your check to the person you’re paying. This is what had totally collapsed. When they talk about “getting the banks to loan money”, they weren’t talking about home mortgages. They were talking about the overnight borrowing that had collapsed globally. There was a very real chance that would would not be able to get your $20 from the ATM.

        What was disturbing was that McCain didn’t understand the problem or the implications. And most importantly, Romney didn’t understand it either. He is a cheap house of cards, ready to crumble.

  11. October 2, 2012 at 9:30 am

  12. October 2, 2012 at 9:30 am

    Goooooood morning, TODville!! Let’s MOVE!! Let’s VOLUNTEER!! Let’s VOTE!!

  13. 55 LDS
    October 2, 2012 at 9:44 am

    Good morning, everyone! Congrats, Duddette for being first. The video about “Bullying” in the last thread was so poignant.
    You always come through with the right music at the right time. Do you have a background in music? Radio? Music truly is one of your many gifts.
    I am staying positive all day, every day throughout the election.
    We know what the media is doing. They are paid to do it. They all are being exposed. It is up to us to inform those who do not know, even those who are too blinded with hate to care.
    It took an honest, caring, humble man to bring all of this to the surface. This is no per chance meeting for all of us.
    I am grateful to be a part of this.


    • 56 dudette9t9
      October 2, 2012 at 1:14 pm

      Hi LDS!

      Thanks so much. I just love music. It speaks to me, moves me, and inspires me. Studied a little as a kid; wish I’d stuck with it. Now just appreciative of good music and try to share that when I can. 🙂

      I feel the same way you do too about PBO and about TOD. Some things are because they’re meant to be.

  14. 57 relellit
    October 2, 2012 at 9:48 am

    Good Morning TODville and Chips

    meta, thanks for the encouraging video.

    Everyone have a nice day 🙂

  15. 58 vcprezofan2
    October 2, 2012 at 9:56 am

    To help assuage the anxiety of Obots who are already sweating about tomorrow night, I want to remind you that while Mitt is trying to reset his empathy button, his greed button, his campaign failing button, his I’m-good-on-the-economy button, his I-have-FPcreds button, etc, etc., our President is working to implement long held beliefs. I dare to say, with all confidence, Willard has not given to any of these areas a fraction of the thought &/ practical input the President has. Can’t wait for Pres Barack to school Willard – just hope he will make the lesson simple enough that Mitt gets it, because despite Mitt’s two degrees he is basically an ignoramos in communication IMO.

    • 59 jackiegrumbacher
      October 2, 2012 at 10:01 am

      Well stated, VC. Thanks you for saying that.

      • 60 vcprezofan2
        October 2, 2012 at 10:14 am

        My pleasure, Grandma JackieG. How is the little lady progressing? Has she registered to vote yet (somewhat like those newborns who are registered in prestigious schools/daycare because the waiting list is so long)?

  16. October 2, 2012 at 9:59 am

  17. October 2, 2012 at 10:00 am

    This is Just Great!!!

  18. October 2, 2012 at 10:03 am

    But but but Chuck Todd has a poll tonight, it’s is a FLOHVA Poll.
    Florida, Ohio and Virginia and…

  19. 65 hopefruit2
    October 2, 2012 at 10:05 am

    • October 2, 2012 at 10:10 am

      Their ya go! That is good news for Willard. LOL!

      • 67 proudmemberofglobalzero
        October 2, 2012 at 10:37 am

        I read the 18 page brief. If you do not have ID…you must vote a provisional ballot. That ballot must be signed and secured for it to be counted. The verification of the signing and securing is the CLERKS job! I am a clerk for the general election in Palm Beach County Florida.

        • 68 57andfemale
          October 2, 2012 at 12:20 pm

          Are you SURE about that? I admit I haven’t read the brief, but I heard that yes, you can be asked for ID but you do not have to provide it in order to vote a regular ballot. Do you have a link to the brief?

        • 69 57andfemale
          October 2, 2012 at 12:22 pm

          This is what’s being reported by AP:

          “One lawyer for the plaintiffs said it appeared to be a “win.” Election workers will still be allowed to ask voters for a valid photo ID, but people without it can vote on a regular voting machine in the polling place and would not have to cast a provisional ballot or prove their identity to election officials after the election.”

    • October 2, 2012 at 10:13 am

      They are just going to keep appealing, try to keep it in effect and confuse people.

  20. October 2, 2012 at 10:05 am

    John Harwood says that the Presidents debate weakness is he is Professional and Arrogant.
    Be careful, John, that last one does not sound to good.

    • 74 anniebella
      October 2, 2012 at 10:21 am

      “F” John Harwood. That’s Forget, not the other word.

    • 75 57andfemale
      October 2, 2012 at 12:52 pm

      To which I say, Romney is humble? Please. I’m sick of these ‘reporters’ who haven’t bothered to watch one single rally held by PBO this election cycle, but keep reading their own press from four years ago. Shame on Harwood. PBO connects viscerally.

      and frankly, he has every reason to be arrogant (although I deplore that word).

      • October 2, 2012 at 1:11 pm

        They’re trying to set up their narrative – this is how they want to sell the outcome of the debate. They want to say that Romney won the debate because President Obama was too arrogant and professorial. The thing is, reality will have little to do with their reporting, and it certainly won’t reflect the fact that no matter how sterling Romney’s performance may turn out – his policies are still very dangerous and very bad for the country and the world. I am going to try and stay far away from any pundit analysis after the debate – I’ll be on twitter, with a glass of wine.

        • 77 57andfemale
          October 2, 2012 at 1:20 pm

          I stayed away from the pundits during the conventions and it was a much more meaningful experience. The important thing for us to do is set our own narrative – twitter, online polls, etc.

          Have you read this, theo? http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/07/magazine/mitt-romney.html?_r=0

          It’s not only that Romney’s policies are dangerous, he is dangerously stupid and uninformed about how the global economy works as an overall picture. He is completely, dangerously incompetent to be anywhere near the presidency.

  21. 78 desertflower
    October 2, 2012 at 10:06 am

    Morning:) All the zingers in the world can’t fix this.

    A new Pew Research survey finds that a majority of voters think President Obama will do better than Mitt Romney in Wednesday’s presidential debate, 51% to 29%.

    Also interesting: A substantial majority of voters plan to watch the debate: 62% say they are very likely to watch, another 21% say they are somewhat likely.

  22. 79 vcprezofan2
    October 2, 2012 at 10:09 am

    Here’s part of an April/2011 The View visit in which FLOTUS was laying down a model of grace in campaigning for AnnD. Wonder why the Mitt campaign didn’t assign it as required viewing for AnnD (just kidding)?

  23. 80 cookemom
    October 2, 2012 at 10:11 am

    Judge rules against new voter ID law in Penn. Says not enough time to put into effect for this election. Yippee!

    • 81 cookemom
      October 2, 2012 at 10:17 am

      Oh I forgot to say hellllllllo O’s!!!!! It’s a great getting up day again TODsters! Things are looking good for the home team, but we still need to keep it moving with GOTV efforts.

      My political take today is between PBO’s coat tails and the PBO effect (voters going PBO, but saying otherwise especially pub women), we mught just get a House that he can work with.

  24. 82 Melanie
    October 2, 2012 at 10:12 am

  25. 85 amk for obama
    October 2, 2012 at 10:15 am

    PA Court rules voters can cast ballots without ID.


    • 86 jackiegrumbacher
      October 2, 2012 at 10:24 am

      This is a lousy and murky decision. Those without IDs can only cast provisional ballots, which are counted much later and are subject to challenge. They will not be part of the count on election day. Simpson could have issued an outright injunction, but he took the coward’s way out. I hope this is immediately appealed to the PA Supreme Court and they issue a full injunction. Frankly, this is a mess and many poll workers will be confused. Many workers don’t even know about provisional ballots and don’t even have them on hand on election. Simpson has made things more complicated and his decision will create more confusion on election day., Let us please pray that the state Supreme Court does it’s job. Pennsylvania is one of the most difficult state to vote in and makes absolutely no accommodations to voters with early voting. Simpson has now made things worse.

      • 87 Lorraine
        October 2, 2012 at 10:27 am

        Okay can’t they use their voter ID card? I don’t get it.

      • 88 dotster3
        October 2, 2012 at 10:29 am

        I don’t trust that provisional ballots are ever counted, too problematic, too much trouble—–thrown in the back room.

        • 89 jackiegrumbacher
          October 2, 2012 at 10:51 am

          Dotster, I think it’s haphazard, depending on the county, but they are not counted on election day and that’s the point. Also Republicans can challenge every prov. ballot and hold up the count even longer.

      • 90 amk for obama
        October 2, 2012 at 10:31 am

        Simpson decided that for the November 6 election only, voters without appropriate photo ID could vote, but would no longer have to produce identification within six days, as their votes would be counted.

        I see it as a win. Wrong ?

        • October 2, 2012 at 10:34 am

          You are right! Thanks for the clarity.

        • 92 jackiegrumbacher
          October 2, 2012 at 10:57 am

          It would be a win if the voter could cast a real ballot, but they’re talking about provisional ballots, which puts the vote into shadowy territory. These ballots are assessed by a committee individually days later and I guarantee you many will not be counted and the voter will never know why. Also, I have come across rank ignorance among poll workers. They often don’t know the rules, have no idea what a provisional ballot and will only find one if you confront them and they call their voter registration office for directions. I have seen them tell people they have to come back later when the provisional ballots are delivered to them by headquarters. This is how it works in the real world. Some poll workers will be prepared and well informed and some will be in la la land. And if you trust the state to give good training and information you will be whistling in the wind.

          • 93 amk for obama
            October 2, 2012 at 11:13 am

            I don’t see any provisional ballots in that piece, jackie. He seems to be saying you can vote without any ID (even though the polling may ask for one) and those votes will be counted, at least for this election cycle.

            I am sure some of the voters may be intimidated by the poll officials asking for the ID and may not vote (that was a dickish move by the judge). But campaign teams will be present at the booths and they won’t allow intimidation by the pooling officials, read thugs.

            gawd, this sounds like a third world country.

      • October 2, 2012 at 10:31 am

        It does not have to be a Penn Dot Id, it can be any picture Id.

        That is a win.

      • 95 hopefruit2
        October 2, 2012 at 10:34 am

        Jackie, this “provisional ballot” rule will NOT be in effect for this election on NOV 6.

        Unless appealed, it goes into effect next year. I think we need to focus on this year’s election for now, and then we can go on to the other issues.

        • 97 jackiegrumbacher
          October 2, 2012 at 10:58 am

          HF, the article I read said this year. If there is another source, could you link it. Thanks.

          • 98 hopefruit2
            October 2, 2012 at 11:04 am

            Look at this update by think progress – in which they state the opinion implies that voters without IDs will cast normal, not provisional ballots on Nov 6.

            // UPDATE: Buried in the opinion is a line establishing that the requirement that voters without IDs cast only provisional ballots will also not be in effect during the November election. After describing a “transition” provision from January 1, 2012 until September 17, 2012 where voters who do not show ID may cast a ballot “without the necessity of casting a provisional ballot,” the judge concludes that “the injunction will have the effect of extending the express transition provisions of Act 18 through the general election.” The impact of this line is that voters without ID will cast normal, not provisional, ballots this November, but they will still be asked for ID. //


            • 99 jackiegrumbacher
              October 2, 2012 at 11:09 am

              Thank you HF. I’m waiting to hear what the ACLU says since they were the principle arguers. If this interpretation is true, then I’m thrilled with the decision. I don’t think it will be overturned by the PA Supremes because I think this is what they wanted Simpson to do in the first place. I’m so emotionally invest in this issue that I can’t see straight sometimes.

        • 102 jackiegrumbacher
          October 2, 2012 at 11:01 am

          HF, what Simpson is saying is that the FULL law goes into effect next year. This year the provisional ballot route goes into effect. Once again, these will not be counted on election day, many will be rejected by a committee, and there will be increased confusion on election day as harassed poll workers try to figure things out. He should have postponed the whole thing a year, but he didn’t.

          • 103 jackiegrumbacher
            October 2, 2012 at 11:12 am

            The AP article is confusing. Hopefruit’s link is very helpful. If we can go back to a normal election this November, then it’s a real win. Of course, I heard the tea party people are saying that this will motivate them even more intensively to get out the vote so that Democrats can’t win. Good luck with that.

      • 104 nathkatun7
        October 2, 2012 at 3:32 pm

        “Those without IDs can only cast provisional ballots, which are counted much later and are subject to challenge.”

        I don’t think this what Court said! Simpson issued an outright injunction for this election, meaning that any one registered will vote, including those with no photo IDs. That’s why supporters of the photo IDs are fuming, calling him an activist judge, and threatening to appeal.

  26. October 2, 2012 at 10:16 am

  27. 106 amk for obama
    October 2, 2012 at 10:22 am

    • October 2, 2012 at 10:28 am

      HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) — A judge postponed Pennsylvania’s controversial voter identification requirement on Tuesday, ordering the state not to enforce it in this year’s presidential election but allowing it to go into full effect next year.

      The decision by Commonwealth Court Judge Robert Simpson on the law requiring each voter to show a valid photo ID could be appealed to the state Supreme Court.

      However, Simpson based his decision on guidelines given to him days ago by the high court justices, and it could easily be the final word on the law just five weeks before the Nov. 6 election.

      One lawyer for the plaintiffs said it appeared to be a ‘‘win.’’

      His ruling came after listening to two days of testimony about the state’s eleventh-hour efforts to make it easier to get a valid photo ID. He also heard about long lines and ill-informed clerks at driver’s license centers and identification requirements that made it hard for some registered voters to get a state-issued photo ID.

      The 6-month-old law — now among the nation’s toughest — has sparked a divisive debate over voting rights and become a high-profile political issue in the contest between President Barack Obama, a Democrat, and Republican nominee Mitt Romney, for Pennsylvania’s prized 20 electoral votes.

      Pennsylvania, traditionally considered one of the most valuable a presidential swing states, is showing a persistent lead for President Barack Obama in independent polls. As a result, the state has been virtually empty of presidential TV ads and off the candidates’ beaten paths to more contested states in recent weeks.

      Boston Globe-

  28. 110 hopefruit2
    October 2, 2012 at 10:37 am

    HAHA..when all else fails.

    • October 2, 2012 at 10:41 am

      And the President is White, too. George Will is losing because he is an idiot!

    • 117 anniebella
      October 2, 2012 at 10:43 am

      As I said yesterday, I don’t know of one Republican I can say I respect. It is killing these people inside that a BLACK is President of this country. How sad and disgusting they are.

    • 118 edp4bho
      October 2, 2012 at 11:46 am

      Whatever. I’ll take it. Too late to quibble with particulars.

      • 119 theo67
        October 2, 2012 at 1:49 pm

        Yup – It’s lovely that they’re admitting that the President is winning. They’ve been lying for four years (longer), so I could care less what the reason is that they say (these are the people who compared President Obama to Hitler, and are now trying to imply that he was responsible for the death of four Americans in Libya). they say he’s winning – that’s all I take in.

  29. October 2, 2012 at 10:47 am

    This article was referenced above by a commenter. It’s very informative about the Obama campaign’s smart strategy in the swing states with blue collar white women. http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012-presidential-campaign/why-obama-is-leading-in-swing-states-20121001 I do take issue with the use of the Walmart Moms focus group info since that was done months ago and much has changed since then. Plus I question the Republican’s belief that these blue collar women take the time to watch debates, but I could be wrong. Otherwise very good article.

  30. 121 hopefruit2
    October 2, 2012 at 10:57 am

    Michelle Obama’s chocolate chip wins cookie prize

    // 10:29AM EST October 2. 2012 – The race between President Obama and Mitt Romney isn’t the only one that’s close. Michelle Obama and Ann Romney also squared off … on cookie recipes. The first lady won Family Circle magazine’s quadrennial Presidential Cookie Bake Off, edging out Ann Romney’s M&M treats by 287 votes out of more than 9,000 cast. Readers tried out the recipes this summer and voted for their favorite.

    … Michelle Obama lost to Cindy McCain in the 2008 version of the bake-off. Family Circle notes that in four out of five recent cookie contests, the winner has gone on to become first lady. //


  31. 125 JER
    October 2, 2012 at 11:11 am

    Stream is up for VP Biden in North Carolina – http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=1

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