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Well, LL, from all we’ve seen, they probably are stupid enough to try a stunt like that.
If they do, President Obama can start with the fact that Mitt rooted for the draft and then hid in Paris during Nam … all the way to just how many times GWB was given clear NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE warnings prior to 9/1.
And, then PBO can reflect on all the lies that were used to start an unnecessary war that he, PBO, has ended in a responsible manner and then reflect on GWB making jokes about WMD and on Mitt’s own words denigrating an all out effort to capture/kill OBL.
But, beyond that, and this is stuff most Americans are totally unaware, if PBO uses such an attack on his leadership to begin being explicit about what he has been doing in Somalia and elsewhere in Africa to dismantle not just AQ but other terrorist organizations, he’ll destroy these fools.
Moreover, to politicize the deaths of an Ambassador and three other fine Americans in such a grossly obvious manner will likely convert even a number of Republicans and independents who might have stayed home into Obama voters.
Let us hope they are truly dumb enough to pull this stunt.
#FORWARD
Really, the idea that a campaign, a party, and a movement which is imploding in real time would be able to pull off something like this makes it seem too much like Christmas come early.
So true, LL, so very true!!!
To quote the infamous GW Bush – ‘Bring it on’!!!
The idea that they are giddy over the idea that they can further exploit the death of four Americans to win political points is disgusting.
The comments are priceless!
Yes, they are. They’re pretty much along the lines of what Bob said above.
Can some tech savvy person forward the article to the key players of the Obama campaign? They probably know about already, but it doesn’t hurt to send it anyway
Know about it? I would bet dollars to donuts that they’re ACHING for the GOP to do something so stupid. And having a good chortle over it.
LOL, so true.
I find it fascinating that someone would leak that. It looks like there is a republican who is so disgusted by the tactics of Romney and his “high-level” friends that he has decided to denounce them. Wow.
From what I understand, there WAS intel but it didn’t come all together in time. I hope President Obama goes public with the details and cut the knees of those republicans who are plotting against him.
Beat Brown Down
No fair Chips, I was still getting up from the naughty mat.
Good for Martin Bashir. And, anyone trying to escape with the ‘we won’t bad mouth Ann’ nonsense needs to be informed that it is admirable the warning Ms Romney provided and we are fools not to take it seriously.
#PRESSON
Bob, here’s the link to the clip: http://video.msnbc.msn.com/martin-bashir/49247391/#49247319
That’s how David Gregory begins the debate..by using GOP or Scott Brown’s talking points about her Native American Ancestry.. SHEESH…
To use President Carter’s favorite word, David Gregory is a “disgrace” to journalism. NBC needs to free David Gregory to do what he loves the most, which is being a propagandist for the Republican party.
Scott Brown is a fucking idiot!
Thank you.
Brown – 0
Warren – 1
Gregory is just disgusting, to open the debate with that question to EW was beyond belief.
I’m watching Wayne Powell make his case powerfully in his debate with sneering twit Eric Cantor
http://www.c-span.org/Events/Virginia-7th-District-House-Debate/10737434511-1/
I’ve set my DVR to tape that debate. 🙂
Scott Brown is a low down DOG. I can’t listen to any more of his b.s.
He’s nothing more than a bought and paid for Koch whore.
Chips..can you take this down? I don’t know why this came up from the embed…will try again
I wanted to post this one here….
The moderator, Dip-shit Gregory is not worth shit either!
I’m tempted to turn off too Yardarm, it’s actually painful listening to that two-faced piece of crap.
And the other b.s. with Cantor ain’t much better. I got 3 screens going and I’m screaming at all of them as I look at the lemming sitting there lapping that shit up. Ugghh!
Yardarm756, I was doing the same. One tv on in one room and another in another, and I was trying to hold myself together, but the pressure is just high as a kite.
These are some ugly people. I can’t stand to look at Gregory or Brown. However, Elizabeth Warren is going to be our next Senator from MA. Elizabeth Warren is a fighter and she is cool and calm. I really think that Sen. Brown is rude and very disrespectful.HZ
I concur.
Warren’s pivoting to Brown’s votes. She’s holding her own very nicely!
I was really glad she pointed out that Scott Brown had signed the Grover Norquist no tax pledge. The people of MA should be outraged by that alone. How can you take an oath to the Constitution and then turn around and take a no tax pledge to some guy outside of the government who was never even elected? How do you have dual allegiances?? Maybe Scott Brown can explain that little tidbit to the audience.
Did he?
This is just what I mean. It’s as if the madness that grips some of these people is contagious, and we are dinged by it. They take themselves very seriously, and that is the scariest thing of all.
Yay PROFESSOR Warren! Kick his ass!
Senator Brown voted in lockstep with every other Republicans voted no on the jobs bill, after jobs bill, after jobs bill! Voted against unemployment extensions 16 times. Senator Brown has made it clear where he stands.
Moreover …
30 seconds of his desperation was enough.
I moved to the Powell debate too. Gregory is a piece of s–t.
When so many reasonable people call you that name in a short space of time – it’s probably true.
Jerk is an understatement.
Coming up at 8ET Nebraska Senate Debata on CSPAN
http://www.c-span.org/Campaign2012/Events/Nebraska-Senate-Debate/10737434512/
Bob Kerrey (D) vs. Deb Fischer (R)
Every time I check the Warren/Brown debate, Gregory is interrupting the point Warren is trying to make.
Yes, he’s interrupting her constantly, and not doing the same with Brown.
Exactly Dotster, he’s not even trying to look remotely impartial, it’s just amazing.
Ross Perot, get off my ****ing screen.
Um, he’s still alive?!
That’s what I said to myself LL!!! 🙂
Me too.
Wow, Scott Brown makes my skin crawl. He is pompous and arrogant. All he’s doing is filibustering which he has good practice doing in the senate. I am glad that Elizabeth Warrent is hammering him on his votes. What a phony. Scott Brown is the fair haired boy of Wall Street and everybody knows it. He has voted exactly as Mitch McConnell demanded except on the few occasions where was released to vote on some vulnerable issue.
All the extreme radical Republicans makes my skin crawl. I don’t know one Republican I can say I respect.
Yup – not even one.
She was just about to make an important point and Gregory cut her off!….arhhhhh
http://twitter.com/Our4thEstate/statuses/252916078211108864
Paraphrase:
Powell to Cantor: During budget standoff with the President, you voted if the govt were to shutdown that Congress should continue to receive their pay, but then you voted to not pay active duty servicemembers. How could you in good conscience vote to continue your own pay while voting to withhold pay from the men and women serving our country overseas and in harms way?
Cantor’s response: Wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa… (word salad)
OK the Dem guy debating Cantor for Va House seat needs a Valium. He has a great message, but his emotions are getting the best of him. Cantor stands there with a silly grin on his face, which allows him to seem above it all. Maybe it’s just nerves, but if he can calm down, slow down, and go less animated, he’d go much further, imo.
Others on Twitter seem to have a different impression:
Well, good then, cause I’m reading it as his being a bit hurried in his attempt to make his points. I hope I’m wrong and the folks who get to vote for him will do so.
I like his passion. I think the Virginians in the audience appreciate it.
I’m glad if that’s how it works for the Virginians. I’m just hoping he gets elected. I think Cantor must be feeling heat to even debate at this point in his political career and position in the House.
Standing ovation at the end of Powell’s closing remarks says a lot.
yep, I saw that and commented down thread. Good on him. I did like his closing and Cantor had nothing.
I don’t think Cantor has done an honest day’s work his whole time in Congress.
{{CM}} TY for mentioning the other thread in your last response to me. I was meandering my way down the thread in my own little world totally and completely oblivious to what was happening around me. Back in a bit, because the call just came in to go meet offspring at bust station. Hold the fort.
If I’d have had my gun I’d have shot the tv.
Charles Pierce’s tweets on the debate are a hoot:
https://twitter.com/ESQPolitics
Gregory is such a bullshitter. Won’t let Warren respond to Brown’s bullshit. He’s such an asshole.
Ps- I think he’s stacked the audience. Brown brings up his national guard bullshit. 🙄
Gregory is making the debate about him, rather than the candidates. He’s inserting himself into the debate. Score many points for Warren on her response to favorite Supreme Court Justice that Brown completely blew. Give her kudos for saying she didn’t know why Mass hasn’t had a female in Congress. Brown blew it with his Scallia answer. Even his own people in the audience cousln’t go along with him on that one. He tried to back off of it by adding Sotamayor, but too late.
Twitter’s on fire about David Gregory. Maybe he and Karl Rove should just plan to join a dance troupe (of horrors) after Nov. 6, I’m thinkin’.
That is exactly what I was going to tweet but got some kind of script message.
🙂 Great minds think alike!
Brown is an asshole. So is Gregory. Warren is very honest.
Good thing I hadn’t eaten anything. Coming here to see that ugly dam turtle looking McConnell would have made me throw up. Yuke!!!!!
Sorry! I know what you mean.
Mitch McConnell is ugly.
Do he have any kids?
I don’t think so. But he’s divorced and remarried.
You’re on a roll today. Huh?
Could be the moon. Brings out the spitfire!
She’s o sweet and honest! Brown immediately went to shake Gregory’s hand, Warren went off stage. Gregory is a fucking hack.
7 points to 15 points in the span of a week? That’s bloody good.
Oooooooooh, a gem!!!!!
Good one LL …
🙂
Gregory was an asshole like 98% of the time. Brown was a condescending jerk who couldn’t even say one nice thing about Warren without injecting some snide misogynistic crap. Warren held her own. I give her credit. She was smart, she wasn’t too cerebral as the GOP and numb nuts like to accuse her of being; instead she gave relatable answers and was straightforward. She did not come to play. She came to win and performed even better than the first debate.
It was hilarious to watch Brown throw Romney under the bus and simultaneously virtually refer to Pres. Obama as the devil and then embrace him as a best friend. He also opposes the Dream Act and supports having more extreme rightwing justices like Scalia and Roberts on the court.
Massachusetts needs to wake the fuck up and realize that they cannot vote for Pres. Obama while and give him a dysfunctional congress and expect progress to be accomplished.
“Massachusetts needs to wake the fuck up and realize that they cannot vote for Pres. Obama while and give him a dysfunctional congress and expect progress to be accomplished.”
AMEN.
Couldn’t have said this any better!
Dog gone it. I missed the Waarren-Brown debate. Yuke!!!!!!!!!!!
No worries anniebella. Video is be available on CSPAN.
http://www.c-span.org/Campaign2012/Events/Sen-Scott-Brown-R-Meets-Elizabeth-Warren-D-in-Mass-Senate-Debate/10737434503/
So what what office is Gregory running for and why doesn’t he get his own debate?
? to EW: Why has there been no woman gov or Senator in Ma? EW: I don’t know. I’m trying to do something about that right here. BOOM!!! POW!!!
Delicious!
Nebraska Senate debate has a panel of journalists (who’s credentials were listed) asking the questions. I like that.
http://www.c-span.org/Campaign2012/Events/Nebraska-Senate-Debate/10737434512-1/
Live tweet: #NESEN
What is MCP?
Male Chauvinist Pig 😉
Wham! Bam! PERFECT! http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/i-am-a-job-creator-a-manifesto-for-the-entitled/2012/09/28/756f2e90-07ee-11e2-858a-5311df86ab04_story.html
I am a job creator: A manifesto for the entitled
A MUST READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fits Mittster and his ilk to a “Tea”!
🙂 Yes it does!!
EGGGGG-ZACKLY. But? This IS America and there are substantial numbers of wonderful people in this socio-economic stratosphere that are giving, sharing and STRONG supporters of progressive causes and the President. I DON’T MEAN TO LECTURE!! Just sayin’ not all wealthy folks are bad. (And you knew that!)
Of course we know that…just not the entitled ****** like Mitt that want to run a country…..
” ****** “. So many expletives!!!!
So now Team Willard is going after PBO on national security? 🙄 wonderful.
You know, I retain quite a bit of my Catholic upbringing, and putting yourself in another’s shoes, caring for those who have less than you, not gloating over someone else’s misfortunes. But damn don’t I love watching Mitt and the GOP flail about.
All I have been hearing is what Mitt Romney is going to do during the debate. We shall see what he does. We shall see.
I could actually see you (in my mind’s eye) rubbing your chin with one eyebrow raised, while I read your post. Lovely!
Bring it on Mitt.
Virginia Dem guy gets standing O for his closing remarks.
I think Eric just shat his pants.
LL, I think Eric did a Double, Double ‘sh.. in pants. I want Powell to send Eric packing for another job.
Powell is a great Dem for us in VA., from what I have seen and heard from him. I like him.HZ
I would love to see him REJECTED! The guy has been such a smarmy, self-righteous prick.
Cool. Nebraska TV Studios in participation with libraries across the state produced video questions from voters to be posed during the debate. That’s really neat! I like how they’re running this debate.
h/t Maddow Blog…..good stuff . Fox lies in graphic form….
http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/10/01/a-history-of-dishonest-fox-charts/190225
I don’t get what is little Nate’s point here. In fact, Little Nate has no damn point.
Statistics. The guy is a genius.
Not to speak for Nate baby, but some on our side were, well, freaking out earlier. I think his point is that the polls are rather stable.
Ok. Makes sense now that you said it. Thanks for clarifying LL!
not volatile, and inexorably moving in pbo’s favor. this graph was updated 15 minutes ago with today’s new polls included. look at the trend line:
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2012-general-election-romney-vs-obama
I don’t know what Nate’s point is, but it could his tweet could be read either negatively or positively. I prefer to read it positively. That is to say that Nate’s point is that it’s not such a big deal that today’s polls showed Mitt gaining an infinitesimal .2% in the polls. To be honest, I just don’t see any thing so drastically different between a lead of 3.5 and 3.7.
CSPAN video of VA 7th Congressional District Debate between Wayne Powell (D) and Eric Cantor (R)
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/Virginia7
I’m trying to decide if I am going to watch Wednesday night debate. Right now I am not sure if I will watch it.
I’m with you, Anniebella….I’m afraid I will throw something at my NEW tv when AH says ugly things about PBO…I probably will watch but it will be painful when the camera is not on our “boyfriend”..
OH WATCH!!! ENJOY IT!!! PBO NEVER loses his cool or stumbles! He’ll do GREAT and turn willard inside-out and YOU WILL CHEER!!!! willard is a professional con-man, gold medal level LIAR and all around slick, fake sack-O-fecal-matter. Don’t forget a lot of effed up people AND some decent but confused and scared people that support him, DON’T REALLY LIKE! Sure he’ll con some people and LIE HIS ASS OFF. OH YOU KNOW! SO WHAT? Will most Americans go for that? NOPE!
{{{{{{anniebella}}}}}} There are a number of us; but I do so very much want to listen to PBO. He shines with a a greater Light than many who have walked this Earth.
Tape it, and then sit on twitter and see the reactions. It’ll still be stressful, but at least you’ll be laughing (hopefully). Then, you can watch it later, while the pundits are doing their translations of what everyone has just watched for themselves.
On the Ed Show- coming up…
http://www.politicususa.com/elizabeth-warren-rolls-scott-brown-falls-debate.html
President Obama will personally visit Keene, Calif., next week to announce the establishment of the César E. Chávez National Monument.
The monument will include Nuestra Señora Reina de la Paz, or La Paz, which served as the national headquarters of the United Farm Workers as well as the home and workplace of Chávez and his family from the early 1970s until Chávez’ death in 1993, and includes his grave site, the White House said Monday.
“César Chávez gave a voice to poor and disenfranchised workers everywhere,” Obama said in a statement. “La Paz was at the center of some of the most significant civil rights moments in our nation’s history, and by designating it a national monument, Chávez’ legacy will be preserved and shared to inspire generations to come.”
Wayne Powell to sniveling punk Eric Cantor:
https://twitter.com/SheSheGo/status/252924367648993280
I watched that debate and Wayne Powell was so good. He put Cantor in his place and left him there! It was a thing of beauty.
He will be getting some funds from me. The two jerks I really want to see out of Congress are Cantor and Ryan and I’m willing to put some money into it.
I’ve given a lot to POTUS and plan to give a little to Warren, Powell, Baldwin, Murphy, Graves and Duckworth. The folks they are going against are the ones I want gone the most.
FoxfireTX, I am with you 100%! Those two are the most dangerous because they are taken seriously by the establishment, but especially b y the media.
Yesterday on NBC’s Sunday talk show “Meet the Press” with host David Gregory, a misquote was perpetuated by its host. And after 24 hours, neither NBC nor David Gregory has said a word as people on Twitter and Facebook display their dissatisfaction at both the Network and the host, David Gregory.
David Gregory did not “misquote” the President. David Gregory blatantly lied about what the President said! PERIOD
+ 1,000,000,000 Nathkatun – a downright, barefaced lie from the GOP shill.
LAS VEGAS – President Obama convened the final debate camp of his political career here on Sunday, huddling with top advisers at a posh lakeside resort 20 miles east of the Strip for a three-day crash course on Republican rival Mitt Romney.
Aides said a “debate prep team” had been pouring over hours of old videotape of Romney and other past Republican and Democratic candidates ahead of the meetings to clean strategic insights to pass on to Obama, who was last on a debate stage on Oct. 15, 2008. He has never sparred with Romney in person.
The two men will meet face to face for the first time Wednesday night at the debut 2012 presidential debate in Denver.
Obama is being coached by a group of veteran Democratic operatives and inner-circle White House advisers, aides said, including senior campaign adviser David Axelrod, pollster Joel Benenson, Democratic strategists Anita Dunn and Ron Klain, National Economic Council director Gene Sperling, and chief of staff Jack Lew.
Former Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts is playing Romney in the mock debate sessions.
http://abcnews.go.com/m/blogEntry?id=17363651
I love the list of advisers. I think Gene Sperling and Jack Lew can help the President finalize his preparation on all the wonky details of budget, health care, taxes. Romney is going to try to look competent and throw a lot of numbers at the president; the president will be prepared I’m sure. I hope that americans realize that the supposed “competence” of Romney in economics is just a myth.
I love how they have to describe the resort as “posh” or “luxurious”, etc. He is the President – where do they expect him to stay? In a tent? The fact is, when he went on vacation with his family, they stayed at a Holiday Inn (or something similar). He deserves to stay wherever he wants to stay.
New post everyone:
http://theobamadiary.com/2012/10/01/womens-voices/
Congrats to MSNBC Anchor Thomas Roberts! He got married to his partner this weekend. I didn’t realize he used to work for CNN. Very handsome couple!
Thomas Roberts Marries His Longtime Partner Patrick Abner
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20635142,00.html
They really are a good looking couple – and they look extremely happy! Nice. 🙂
President Obama will be in California next week, to dedicate Cesar Chavez’s home, workplace and gravesite as a National Monument.
Since the days of train travel, I doubt if any President has been within miles of this location (Keene, CA, between Bakersfield and Tehachapi), so this will be a real treat for Kern County residents.
As an aside, I cannot believe the hate that RWNJs reply to Mark Knoller’s tweets. No human is perfect, and any role model is flawed. But there is no one in the Latino community that truly was a role model. I’m saddened that Frank Church of Idaho hasn’t had a more lasting legacy, especially now that RWNJs have overtaken that state. (I’m pretty sure he had Native American heritage, but cannot confirm it now).
Team Romney is really desperate. They just sent out a mass press alert that John Elway just endorsed them so this means they are definitely going to win Colorado and this is a debate game changer. In their press alert they had to explain who John Elway is. “John Elway is a former pro-football player.” When you have to explain who your endorser is, not only is that pathetic but it also means that your endorser is a has been loser.
Elway is an icon in Denver, and brought them two super bowl wins. I always liked Elway, like Eastwood, what a shame.
See this Carla:
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/john-elways-toyota-dealership-named-in-class-action-filed-by-sanford-wittels–heisler-llp-136945628.html
Elway may be an icon in Denver but I doubt that he has enough political pull to help Romney win Denver. We shall see if I am wrong.
So, David Gregory debated Elizabeth Warren tonight. What did Scott Brown do? Moderate?