Lol And at least POTUS doesn’t have to shamelessly pander there. He has a completely natural tan!!
Xcuse my French, but I seriously cant believe Romney tried to pull that shit! His face and ears were different colors!! Waaaatt..
LOL, I’d love to see the behind the scenes video of him and the make-up artist deciding on just the right shade. Not able to come to a conclusion, they call for a consult with one of the foremost authorities on the bronzing of public figures. However, the expert is nowhere to be found. Eventually, due to time constraints, they just go with golden glow orange. Afterwards, and much too late, the call is returned. Boehner apologizes for having been missing in action.
I just replied “are you watching the same election I am? Because the different ideologies could not BE more different”? So tired of this false equipvalency crap
Cannot wait for the President to appear with aka overshadow Willard at the Oct. 18 Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation Dinner in NY. I’m sure everybody recalls his superb humor in ’08 with McGrumpy doing his jokes right alongside of him. Both rose to the occasion and appreciated each other’s presentations (as I recall! I have a tendency to only remember the good stuff! But I think McCain enjoyed what our guy said).
With all due respect, that Horhay (sp) person with his “you promised” can go to hell. My people, AA’s were promised 40 acres and a mule coming out of hardships of slavery, and we carried on without those promised goods. Give me a fuckin break here. No offense to any Latinas here, but I don’t like anyone pressing PBO on something he has been restricted from putting in place. Promises, promises.
It is about time that Latino citizens wake up and realize they will have to vote. this “you promised” stuff is irritating. maybe he should just vote for Romney
This is a fantastic opportunity for President Obama to show American voters AND the world what he is REALLY made of. All this aggressive questioning is being met with thorough, comprehensive, detailed and most importantly, factually correct responses.
The moderators actually look petty and childish (and somewhat ignorant) by the time PBO is finished answering his questions.
The moderators were completely ignorant! Especially that Jorge guy. They don’t seem to understand how the political system works. They definitely had a hard time understanding the facts about Congress. What an asshole that Jorge guy was.
here’s the thing…there’s this thing called CONGRESS. Another thing called THE SENATE.
Instead of grilling the President about the LEGISLATIVE BRANCH, how come his ass doesn’t have on REPUBLICAN SENATORS AND ASK THEM WHY THEY FILIBUSTERED IT
Okay. We’ll go insane together, Duny. I turned it down really low, but wondered if I just hadn’t turned the correct button as I sometimes do. Technology and I make very uneasy bedfellows.
can someone please tell me what I’m not seeing in terms of all the press I see and read about Romney being a good debater. Last night, some of the village were commenting on Romney at the Univision forum and many were saying that Obama will have his hands full with Romney…uh what?
Did I miss something? Is Romney better one on one than in the clown parade that was the GOP primary. The only one on one debates I’ve seen from him is the one with Ted Kennedy and from what I read the one he had for Gov of Mass was nothing to call home about.
The MSM is building up Mitt as a great debater for two reasons, imho: First, what else does Mitt have left? He bungled the month of August when pundits were saying he was going to hit his stride. His campaign is going in the wrong direction, so the only game changer left are the debates. The MSM, as it did for McCain in 2008, already know they will declare Mitt the winner of the debates. So this is setting the foundation for the Mitt’s big comeback. And secondly, they are providing cover for the lies that Mitt will be spewing during the debates. The MSM will conflate Mitt’s penchant for lying as being skill at debating. I doubt the moderators will call Mitt on his lying during the debates, so the MSM is banking on PBO not being able to handle Mitt’s lies. I think the MSM is wrong, but that is my theory for why they are making Mitt out to be a great debater.
They are trying to subliminally prepare you to accept what they are planning to do after each debate: declare Romney the winner. Who knows, may be they plan to give Romney the questions in advance.
‘Gunnite folks!’ Sleep tight and sweet dreams…and don’t come peeking in before you’ve had a good six to eight hours of rest! You have to build strength for the weeks ahead. 🙂
Univision keeps repeating the same segment over and over for me and I can’t get anything from the other live stream, I guess I will have to count on all of you to tell me what is going on.
Is it me or am I hearing the same question twice? Please say it ain’t so, I can’t afford to lose anymore brain cells. The remaining one would be mighty lonely rattling around up there.
The president can make sure educational resources and support are there. But parents have to take the Wii out of their kids’ hands and make sure they do the damned work.
One thing I love about Obama is he answers the questions. He does not dodge. Plus it doesn’t hurt that he answers the way I have in mind, sometimes saying per verbatim what I was thinking.
seriously? a question about the teacher strike in Chicago? So now POTUS is supposed to negotiate between unions & cities too. And yet he answers with intelligence & class.
I was born and raised in Miami; at best it’s a banana republic. You can say the most idiotic things and get elected as long as you throw in a couple of lines about hating Fidel Castro.
so this knucklehead asks which mitt romney is the true romney??? the one who’s for the 47% or the one who says he’s for the whole country… and POTUS and I are in sync… ask Mitt Romney that question… course POTUS is far nicer than me.
And this line of questioning is exactly what the debates are going to look like. I don’t question that PBO can handle himself but these media folks are looking for a soundbite or a reaction that they can run with. They care nothing about substance.
I’m getting back to work will catch up on this later.
The media may not care about substance – but the voters do. And that’s what matters. PBO is not talking to the media, he’s talking to the voters, who by and large do NOT respect or trust the talking heads/corporate-owned moderators and their agenda.
I think PBO and his supporters (who are the majority of America and the WORLD) will emerge victorious in this election, and I’m actually looking forward to the debates where PBO sends a message to the MedicaCorp to either be part of the solution, or STFU and get out of the way.
He’s already gotten a lot of pushback on Twitter. I think by now he’s gotten the message that people are not there to entertain or be impressed by his smug, narcissistic and self-righteous ruminations.
THIS is why I love love love his townhalls & debates.. he is so bloody brilliant & conscientious… oh brother a bs Eric Holder question.. this Ramos is kinda stupid, considering the facts have been made clear on Fast & Furious.
Right now, it’s the moderators who are looking uninformed, petty and ridiculous. Not PBO. You don’t try to one-up this man in a debate, whether you are his opponent, or whether you are the moderator.
I think some people have yet to learn that lesson, but better late than never!!!
The reason they haven’t learned that lesson yet is because they think “They” will be one to finally trip-up President Obama. And that’s partly President Obama’s fault because he makes them think that they actually have a chance of beating him. Kind of like the Venus-Flytrap thing, it looks good and smells good and is very yummy, so you come on inside like its all good. The next thing you know, your ass is dead.
holy moley these questioners are literally just vehicles for republican talking points. what a joke. these aren’t “tough questions.” of course though, our genius president is taking in all the insanity and turning it around into positive learning moments for the voters. he’s better than ever. i cannot wait to see him embarrass candy crowley and friends, and republicans in general. wowee!!
what a moron… whats your biggest failure?? Now more attacks.. excuses?? Did anyone watch the interview w/ romney.. was it this disrespectful.. I know stupid question.. media only pulls this trash on Pres O.
My question too. This was a total waste of the President’s time. Any tape on Romney’s performance yesterday? The little I saw they were much friendly toward Romney.
Accomplishing Immigration reform. They kept harping on that meme for the ENTIRE forum despite a detailed and sensible explanation from PBO as to why he didn’t accomplish immigration reform in his first term,along with his desire to do so in his second term. But, but but, “you broke your promise, you broke your promise, you broke your promise, you broke your promise…”
I mean…even 10 year olds know that governing the country just ain’t that simple.
yes it was stupid.. they were bullshitting- because they have to know the facts.. so once again, interviewed by UNserious journalists playing GOP games.
But the funny thing is despite their BS, they are the ones who come out looking like foolish idiots. Thanks to sites like Twitter, TOD, The People’s View, SmartyPants, etc., they cannot get away with these games anymore. Even in 2008, Twitter and pro-Obama blogs like TOD were not as widely used or up and running as they are now. And so people now have instant access to critiques of these moderators and their bias, in ways that they didn’t before.
yep- which is why I’m so in love with Twitter.. we didn’t have that last time around, the majority of us… think how fast we responded in 2008 to the ABC interview w/ George Ss crap… and no twitter then.. they pull that nonsense this time around and the sh*t is gonna hit the fan hard & fast by ‘we the people’.
I wish PBO had rejoined with well If I tell you here that I broke my promise that would mean I no longer have any plans of completing it. However since I have not giving up on getting it done, I cannot say those words.
Now I wish I’d seen Mitt’s appearance for comparison. I know I could go find it somewhere, but maybe I don’t wish it after all.
too bad that the mdoerators may be blowing a good opportunity to get PBO’s accounting of some real issues. Why waste time questioning him about an ex-Navy Seal, or repeating the same “but you promised” meme?
for those who don’t know already, remember, the latin world has a lot of the same class dynamics as we have in the states. much of latin america has a 1% that are aligned with the american 1% like mittbot, and i think these questioners, and probably the network owners are part of that, so that would explain these republican talking point vehicles called moderators.
I know meta. It just seemed to me that the questions were one note about ‘you promised’. Rather, they could have acknowledged what had already been accomplished. At the least, the moderators could have made it known to their audience that PBO had to sign an executive order to get the Dream Act because of the Repub roadblock. That’s why I said that. If the moderators were going to make it a seemingly single issue forum, then the single issue answer could very well be the challenge of who said, “I’ll repeal the Dream Act”
It appeared to me that the moderators didn’t want to explore those other issues that mattered. They wasted a good opportunity to showcase those issues.
LIke someone upthread said, this is all good debate prep, becasue I guarantee you, as in the tank for the GOP as those two assholes were – the debate moderators are going to be way worse. WAAAAAAY WORSE.
well that was a nice warm up for PBO to prepare for the insane “moderators” he’ll face in the us debates. he was outstanding handling it. this is going to be good! he’s seems so comfortable in his role now now that he’s had a few years. in 2008, even though he was the best by far in the primaries and the general, PBO would sometimes seem a little unsure of how to answer some things, but now, wow, he’s nailing it!
i’d like to see him explain to the viewers a little more about how there was the famous “do nothing congress” many years ago, and how the republican congress puts the do-nothing congress to shame. truly. he can then pivot the message as to why people need to vote for democrats across the board, which he did reference in his closing statement. this is a good sign that he’s moving in that direction with his messaging. yessssss!!!
I noticed a WHOLE LOT of people shaking hands at the end mouthing the words, “you have my vote.” And we have to remember this is Florida. I’m not particularly worried about the Latino vote in general.
You are right meta. These Univision moderators certainly don’t speak for the majority of Latino voters who can decipher for themselves which candidate has their bests interest and which one doesn’t.
I would really, really like to see some good substantive questions in the debates posed to PBO and Mitt. The debates are too often gotta questions and don’t provide any real information and thoughts on solutions.
I’ve never been impressed with the American way of conducting Presidential debates. Actually, it’s a misnomer to call them debates. I prefer to call them joint news conferences by opposing candidates. And given the state of U.S. corporate media, which prefers sensationalism over serious substance about real issues, I doubt that we will “see some good substantive questions” asked by these moderators.
Because Mitt is a failure as a candidate.. and because most of America is becoming wise to the fact that he’ll be an even bigger failure as a President… be absolutely certain that from now to election day, the media will do their utmost to shore him up- we will be running against media far more than we are against romney.. imo.
President Obama throughout his entire life he has gone through the fire and fire forges steel. These idiots here are like tiny mosquitoes and President Obama swats them away effortlessly. When they go back and look at the video and see how badly President Obama dismissed their foolishness, they will be more enraged.
UT, I’m dipping in and out at the moment, just trying to get some work finished, but just to say …….. your tweets are beyond magnificent. Love ya girl!
I second you Chipsticks! UT is wonderful for many of us who never get to watch these events live. Great thanks to you Chips for creating this magnificent space that make it possible for UT to educate us. It seems that the only thing the mainstream media is peddling from PBO appearance at Univision is all about changing Washington from the outside. I always come here late because of my part-time work schedule, but I always make sure to read everything. Otherwise, I would be lost. I have consciously made a point of avoiding corporate (mainstream) media.
thinking about some of the recent writings by liberal librarian and others about the end of the republican party and the new era of politics, this little forum was such a good example of that i thought. it used to be that republican talking points, that have been baked into the public consciousness for decades by the media, could be trotted out like like they were at an event like this and it actually would hurt the democrats in general in polling and in tripping them up in their response. it often felt like you were powerless to stop the insanity since it was so pervasive.
now though, anyone who ever tries that nonsense ends up being the ones with egg on their face, just as these supposed moderators were today. the republican talking points now backfire on candidates who speak them and media people who try to push them!! this is a colossal change!! the is the new normal in the age of obama. he’s altered the world’s politics on so many levels is breathtaking. i’m so thankful to be alive to see this happen.
for all those generations who have fought these same forces we’re taking down today, each one of us must make sure every local democrat in your area gets elected. no exceptions. we can finish the work of generations over the next couple of months. forward!!!!
Very good observations. (And I’m not just saying that because you name-checked me.) The old playbook is not working. No amount of effort by the RW or the MSM can change that. A large part of that is due to having someone like Obama leading at this time. He was the right person in the right place at the right time. And Democrats are finally being remade in his image — strong, confident, unafraid to speak their values. The wimpy Dems who lost in 2010 were the last of the chaff; when we retake the House this November, we’ll have much stronger Dems in there.
not to mention social media that allows fact checking, push back, call out, and in your face real time corrections. PBO was genius in implementing and accepting the benefits of social media, while his opponents seem to fear it. Even now in Mit’s 2012 campaign, they fail to use it to its full advantage. Even McIDon’tKnwHowToType had an interactive campaign site. Mitt has no way for his folks, volunteers, or base to even leave a comment.
“we can finish the work of generations over the next couple of months. forward!!!!”
Yes We Can
Yes We Must
That is our moral obligation to all those who came before us and sacrificed, in many cases their life, to provide us our opportunity to write a new, more inclusive and more equitable chapter in the American story.
Well stated, 4more for 44. Your last injunction is difficult in a red county, but we’re doing our best. But you are absolutely right about the Republican talking points not working as they once did. People are beginning to see them for what they are–phony, setups designed to trip up Democrats. And Democrats have learned to walk taller, speak smarter and stay on message since PBO came into their lives.
Yes, indeed. The voters aren’t fooled by MSM gotcha questions – in fact they only garner more respect for our President as he takes time to thoughtful and detailed responses to each question, no matter how aggressive, redundant, hostile, etc…
Thanks for livetweeting this UT!! You’ve more than done your part in helping to disseminate useful and relevant information in this President’s re-election bid.
Donna I could barely get through the first 10 minutes of this forum. It’s clear that Romney was treated with kids gloves, and he was also allowed to lie about President Obama’s inability to get Immigration reform done in his first year without being challenged to address the obstructionist congress. When they did challenge him, you could hear the hesitation in their voice…”well, er..with all due respect..er,.er”
Then I noticed that the audience was stacked with STRONG Romney supporters, because it seemed they clapped and cheered every 5 sentences regardless of what he said, and actually booed the moderator (loudly) when she tried to challenge him on his flip-flopping immigration stance. Why did Univision allow this in the first place? This was not an “Independent” crowd.
Exactly HF2! You lasted about as long as I did. Both Meta and I were watching and had to shut it down because it was just awful. Today those moderaters were the exact opposite with PBO. To me it was disgusting!
“if the Hispanic voting bloc becomes as committed to the Democrats as the African American voting bloc has in the past, why we’re in trouble as a party and, I think, as a nation.”
Did the Univision moderators ask Romney about this statement? Because if they did I haven’t found any evidence of it.
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According to spanish dictionary translation….This video is not available where you are
Try this C:
http://www.wtxl.com/content/topstories/story/Live-Stream-President-participates-in-Univisions/qYAzu7cn3U2dknUE_tY-Gg.cspx
Thanks symmetry11 and Chips……crossing my fingers for this one…..
Show-off.
Ah, they’re discriminating against you too, Christi? I was griping about this downthread. 😉 Off to try the link Ms Undaunted Chips provided.
It’s the WTXL one….I’ll wait till it starts. Patience is a virtue some of US didn’t get enough of at birth. We couldn’t wait for our share. 🙄
lol yes I think so Vic
Bubbling over with excitement to hear Pres. Obama present his plans.
Lol And at least POTUS doesn’t have to shamelessly pander there. He has a completely natural tan!!
Xcuse my French, but I seriously cant believe Romney tried to pull that shit! His face and ears were different colors!! Waaaatt..
He was more orange than Boehner!….he looked ridiculous.
LOL, I’d love to see the behind the scenes video of him and the make-up artist deciding on just the right shade. Not able to come to a conclusion, they call for a consult with one of the foremost authorities on the bronzing of public figures. However, the expert is nowhere to be found. Eventually, due to time constraints, they just go with golden glow orange. Afterwards, and much too late, the call is returned. Boehner apologizes for having been missing in action.
LOL. Typical rethuglican failures from boner downwards,
Methinks he was set up by the make-up person.
Ha! Just like the hidden camera guy set him up at the fundraiser. We’re watching you, Romney!
And he had white circles under his eyes.
LOL!
Look at this bullshit from Chris Hayes
I need to visit Twitter I want to slam Hayes. I hate that guy! lol
I just replied “are you watching the same election I am? Because the different ideologies could not BE more different”? So tired of this false equipvalency crap
If he wants his Perfect Campaign, let him go and run for office himself and stop inflicting his purity crap on the rest of us.
I tweeted to him that I don’t want an idealogue for president. I want a president that represents all of the people.
The fucker wants a golden pony with a crown.
Mayoress Chips!! Not while wearing your mayoral lanyard! /face in palm as I try to keep shocked chuckle under control/
Ouch !
Chipsticks for the fucking WIN!!!!!
That’s my captain! You go ahead and tell it like it is, Chipsticks!
Juanita Jean on Mitt’s Univision appearance:
“Damn, I hope he goes on BET teevee.”
http://juanitajean.com/
Finally he got one right!….
Cannot wait for the President to appear with aka overshadow Willard at the Oct. 18 Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation Dinner in NY. I’m sure everybody recalls his superb humor in ’08 with McGrumpy doing his jokes right alongside of him. Both rose to the occasion and appreciated each other’s presentations (as I recall! I have a tendency to only remember the good stuff! But I think McCain enjoyed what our guy said).
http://www.alsmithfoundation.org/thedinner.html
Guess Romney will be in whiteface makeup that evening.
http://noticias.univision.com/destino-2012/live-videos/
My President is speaking.
look at this asshole attacking PBO. grrrr “a promise is a promise and you broke that promise” FUCK YOU
And our President responded as only Barack Obama could. With facts, logic and clarity of vision.
BOOM!
Who is this moderator? Won’t take yes for an answer.
OK sitting in France hoping that the WTXL livestream will work. Has the event begun?
I’m seeing nothing.
Wow, I guess it started. Based on the new comments here, maybe I’m glad that I’m not able to watch.
With all due respect, that Horhay (sp) person with his “you promised” can go to hell. My people, AA’s were promised 40 acres and a mule coming out of hardships of slavery, and we carried on without those promised goods. Give me a fuckin break here. No offense to any Latinas here, but I don’t like anyone pressing PBO on something he has been restricted from putting in place. Promises, promises.
It is about time that Latino citizens wake up and realize they will have to vote. this “you promised” stuff is irritating. maybe he should just vote for Romney
lapared @lapared
Jorge Ramos is being a disrespectful ass right now. You know he didn’t act like that with Mitt Romney.
This is a fantastic opportunity for President Obama to show American voters AND the world what he is REALLY made of. All this aggressive questioning is being met with thorough, comprehensive, detailed and most importantly, factually correct responses.
The moderators actually look petty and childish (and somewhat ignorant) by the time PBO is finished answering his questions.
thats true
True. Besides the dope pushing that question, PBO shows his bonafides when it comes to debating. Bring ’em on.
The moderators were completely ignorant! Especially that Jorge guy. They don’t seem to understand how the political system works. They definitely had a hard time understanding the facts about Congress. What an asshole that Jorge guy was.
HELLOooooo!!!!
here’s the thing…there’s this thing called CONGRESS. Another thing called THE SENATE.
Instead of grilling the President about the LEGISLATIVE BRANCH, how come his ass doesn’t have on REPUBLICAN SENATORS AND ASK THEM WHY THEY FILIBUSTERED IT
Anything actually started yet? I keep hearing this annoying music over and OVER. Probable send me off my rocker before I get to hear anything !
me too! It’s driving me insane
Okay. We’ll go insane together, Duny. I turned it down really low, but wondered if I just hadn’t turned the correct button as I sometimes do. Technology and I make very uneasy bedfellows.
I did the same but nothing. I have shut it off now and just reading the postings here.
Cluny, I’m still torturing myself. Has it in fact started? Yhanks. Going down thread to see if there is any related info.
can someone please tell me what I’m not seeing in terms of all the press I see and read about Romney being a good debater. Last night, some of the village were commenting on Romney at the Univision forum and many were saying that Obama will have his hands full with Romney…uh what?
Did I miss something? Is Romney better one on one than in the clown parade that was the GOP primary. The only one on one debates I’ve seen from him is the one with Ted Kennedy and from what I read the one he had for Gov of Mass was nothing to call home about.
Seriously, enlighten me please.
Would if I could lamh, but I have yet to summon the strength to listen to him for more than a few seconds.
The MSM is building up Mitt as a great debater for two reasons, imho: First, what else does Mitt have left? He bungled the month of August when pundits were saying he was going to hit his stride. His campaign is going in the wrong direction, so the only game changer left are the debates. The MSM, as it did for McCain in 2008, already know they will declare Mitt the winner of the debates. So this is setting the foundation for the Mitt’s big comeback. And secondly, they are providing cover for the lies that Mitt will be spewing during the debates. The MSM will conflate Mitt’s penchant for lying as being skill at debating. I doubt the moderators will call Mitt on his lying during the debates, so the MSM is banking on PBO not being able to handle Mitt’s lies. I think the MSM is wrong, but that is my theory for why they are making Mitt out to be a great debater.
They are trying to subliminally prepare you to accept what they are planning to do after each debate: declare Romney the winner. Who knows, may be they plan to give Romney the questions in advance.
Holy guggamugga! Don’t look now, but that guy speaking is going to wipe the floor with Romney in the debates. Wow, getting chills.
It’s shuteye time. Say gunnite folks.
‘Gunnite folks!’ Sleep tight and sweet dreams…and don’t come peeking in before you’ve had a good six to eight hours of rest! You have to build strength for the weeks ahead. 🙂
Night amk.
gunnite, folks.
anyone up to live blogging the event for those of us unable to watch? Cool if not possible
Are you on Twitter? If you follow @utaustinliberal, she’s currently liveblogging on Twitter.
No but thanks for the info hopefruit
THANK YOU, Hopefruit2. Utaustinliberal is great at live tweeting and I can’t watch here in France
Univision keeps repeating the same segment over and over for me and I can’t get anything from the other live stream, I guess I will have to count on all of you to tell me what is going on.
Yes, it did the same for me too, and I had to close out and start again.
Thanks I restarted it and it’s been working now.
Is it me or am I hearing the same question twice? Please say it ain’t so, I can’t afford to lose anymore brain cells. The remaining one would be mighty lonely rattling around up there.
Cookemom, I had to refresh my screen. It happened to me also.
So, I take it PBO is handling rough questioning with aplomb? Silly “journalists” trying to trip him up.
And as far as the audience? Probably filled with Cubans still voting for Mitt.
How can a president stop drop out rates. Sorry, I have to say that is parents and students work. Not the president.
The president can make sure educational resources and support are there. But parents have to take the Wii out of their kids’ hands and make sure they do the damned work.
Has it begun?
Yes, here’s where I’m watching: http://noticias.univision.com/destino-2012/live-videos/
Thank you!! I was trying to access via the local abc … zip!!
One thing I love about Obama is he answers the questions. He does not dodge. Plus it doesn’t hurt that he answers the way I have in mind, sometimes saying per verbatim what I was thinking.
Beautifully said. He usually says what we are ALL thinking, since PBO’s totally in tune with his fellow Americans – the ones with souls and minds!
seriously? a question about the teacher strike in Chicago? So now POTUS is supposed to negotiate between unions & cities too. And yet he answers with intelligence & class.
Hey – I live in Illinois and I think I noticed a pothole in my neighborhood. I blame President Obama!
Unreal.
Eggzackly 😉 He hasn’t been over to wash my car either in like two years!! WTH.. He’s supposed to fix EVERYTHING NOWWWWWWWWWW!!
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For those people who are unable to view the livestream, this forum will be televised tonight @ 10:00PM ET on Univision.
I was born and raised in Miami; at best it’s a banana republic. You can say the most idiotic things and get elected as long as you throw in a couple of lines about hating Fidel Castro.
True, and always sad.
so this knucklehead asks which mitt romney is the true romney??? the one who’s for the 47% or the one who says he’s for the whole country… and POTUS and I are in sync… ask Mitt Romney that question… course POTUS is far nicer than me.
OMG Ramos asked DIRECTLY about Mitt Romney’s #47percent comment
POTUS gives the FACTS= WE ALLL Pay taxes. So tired about the lies and who “doesn’t pay taxes”. Such as disabled, seniors, vets, soldiers.
Pitch perfect. Swooning. And I’ma dude. Dang! He is tickling my brain in an kinds of pleasurable ways. I want the debates now!
Nothing wrong with a little bromance.
lol… yep he’s pretty wonderful. Love his thoughtful brainy answers… all steeped in empathy for his fellow citizens.
Judging from the questions, there’s a disconnect between the Executive Branch, Legislative Branch, and state/local government responsibilities.
OMG I am in love with this Obama. I’ve forgotten how he does when he is asked a question. He is going to bring the beat down on Romney come October 3.
And this line of questioning is exactly what the debates are going to look like. I don’t question that PBO can handle himself but these media folks are looking for a soundbite or a reaction that they can run with. They care nothing about substance.
I’m getting back to work will catch up on this later.
too right Donna… the questions will always be bs attacks by the ‘journalists’ & ‘mediators’,. But POTUS remains too smart for their games.
The media may not care about substance – but the voters do. And that’s what matters. PBO is not talking to the media, he’s talking to the voters, who by and large do NOT respect or trust the talking heads/corporate-owned moderators and their agenda.
I think PBO and his supporters (who are the majority of America and the WORLD) will emerge victorious in this election, and I’m actually looking forward to the debates where PBO sends a message to the MedicaCorp to either be part of the solution, or STFU and get out of the way.
Trust me folks, these questions aren’t going to get any better.
no shit
https://twitter.com/muttlikemeblog/status/248857491159539712
Is this guy who is asking questions a repug? He is asking questions like a republican.
Correction: Only a rich,white punk would make that tweet.
Can somebody tweet to Chris something I had to grow out of saying…….Shut up ! That’s all. Thanks !!
He’s already gotten a lot of pushback on Twitter. I think by now he’s gotten the message that people are not there to entertain or be impressed by his smug, narcissistic and self-righteous ruminations.
THIS is why I love love love his townhalls & debates.. he is so bloody brilliant & conscientious… oh brother a bs Eric Holder question.. this Ramos is kinda stupid, considering the facts have been made clear on Fast & Furious.
who is the guy reporter? He’s very high on his self ain’t he.
Ramos is a douche bag.
alright, officially annoyed by the ‘journalists’ not knowing this HAS been investigated by Congress.. Darrel Issa ring a bell????
Right now, it’s the moderators who are looking uninformed, petty and ridiculous. Not PBO. You don’t try to one-up this man in a debate, whether you are his opponent, or whether you are the moderator.
I think some people have yet to learn that lesson, but better late than never!!!
The reason they haven’t learned that lesson yet is because they think “They” will be one to finally trip-up President Obama. And that’s partly President Obama’s fault because he makes them think that they actually have a chance of beating him. Kind of like the Venus-Flytrap thing, it looks good and smells good and is very yummy, so you come on inside like its all good. The next thing you know, your ass is dead.
Well, you can’t “fault” President Obama for doing something that ultimately works in his favor.
I was being sarcastic, maybe I should work on it more, well that’s what my wife says.
Oh don’t worry Don – I should have known better! 🙂 🙂
I don’t like that gray hair guy. What ever his name is.
He’s part of the 1%.
Smack ’em down Mr. Prez 😀
holy moley these questioners are literally just vehicles for republican talking points. what a joke. these aren’t “tough questions.” of course though, our genius president is taking in all the insanity and turning it around into positive learning moments for the voters. he’s better than ever. i cannot wait to see him embarrass candy crowley and friends, and republicans in general. wowee!!
It’s all good debate prep.
I’d say he’s ready for the debate. Dude is armed to the teeth with facts.
that’s president dude to you….and me!
damn! These people are tough.
what a moron… whats your biggest failure?? Now more attacks.. excuses?? Did anyone watch the interview w/ romney.. was it this disrespectful.. I know stupid question.. media only pulls this trash on Pres O.
My question too. This was a total waste of the President’s time. Any tape on Romney’s performance yesterday? The little I saw they were much friendly toward Romney.
oh man this direct address is going to be gooooooood!
Hard to believe at this point that POTUS would have to further convince anyone to vote for him.
“You broke your promise” Are these moderators five years old? 🙂 🙂
which promise did they say he broke? I missed the beginning of this.
Immigration reform, which was blocked from the Republicans.
To be honest, I don’t know why he does these interviews with MSM?
thank you jovie.. exactly.. blaming POTUS once again for Reps in Congress FAILURES.
Accomplishing Immigration reform. They kept harping on that meme for the ENTIRE forum despite a detailed and sensible explanation from PBO as to why he didn’t accomplish immigration reform in his first term,along with his desire to do so in his second term. But, but but, “you broke your promise, you broke your promise, you broke your promise, you broke your promise…”
I mean…even 10 year olds know that governing the country just ain’t that simple.
yes it was stupid.. they were bullshitting- because they have to know the facts.. so once again, interviewed by UNserious journalists playing GOP games.
But the funny thing is despite their BS, they are the ones who come out looking like foolish idiots. Thanks to sites like Twitter, TOD, The People’s View, SmartyPants, etc., they cannot get away with these games anymore. Even in 2008, Twitter and pro-Obama blogs like TOD were not as widely used or up and running as they are now. And so people now have instant access to critiques of these moderators and their bias, in ways that they didn’t before.
yep- which is why I’m so in love with Twitter.. we didn’t have that last time around, the majority of us… think how fast we responded in 2008 to the ABC interview w/ George Ss crap… and no twitter then.. they pull that nonsense this time around and the sh*t is gonna hit the fan hard & fast by ‘we the people’.
I wish PBO had rejoined with well If I tell you here that I broke my promise that would mean I no longer have any plans of completing it. However since I have not giving up on getting it done, I cannot say those words.
Now I wish I’d seen Mitt’s appearance for comparison. I know I could go find it somewhere, but maybe I don’t wish it after all.
too bad that the mdoerators may be blowing a good opportunity to get PBO’s accounting of some real issues. Why waste time questioning him about an ex-Navy Seal, or repeating the same “but you promised” meme?
The Funny thing is, the Univision Reporters treated Robney a lot better.
Don’t ya know?
I wonder where we can get archived video of the Univision town hall with Robney? It would be nice to have a side by side comparison.
Univision website?
did you see it? What type questions did they ask? did they remark on his orange glow?
POTUS can handle people like that. He stood his ground. He gave it back to them, I mean the ones on stages with him.
I know, I was asking those questions about how Mitt’s appearance went yesterday.
for those who don’t know already, remember, the latin world has a lot of the same class dynamics as we have in the states. much of latin america has a 1% that are aligned with the american 1% like mittbot, and i think these questioners, and probably the network owners are part of that, so that would explain these republican talking point vehicles called moderators.
Exactly. Jorge Ramos and his cohort couldn’t care less about poor Latino immigrants.
egad he has class… he goes through this nonsense w/these arrogant SOBs for US.
PBO shouldn’t have to say anything more to this audience than to ask who said, ” I will repeal the Dream Act”
Not everyone is undocumented. There are plenty of issues that matter.
I know meta. It just seemed to me that the questions were one note about ‘you promised’. Rather, they could have acknowledged what had already been accomplished. At the least, the moderators could have made it known to their audience that PBO had to sign an executive order to get the Dream Act because of the Repub roadblock. That’s why I said that. If the moderators were going to make it a seemingly single issue forum, then the single issue answer could very well be the challenge of who said, “I’ll repeal the Dream Act”
It appeared to me that the moderators didn’t want to explore those other issues that mattered. They wasted a good opportunity to showcase those issues.
Agreed!
LIke someone upthread said, this is all good debate prep, becasue I guarantee you, as in the tank for the GOP as those two assholes were – the debate moderators are going to be way worse. WAAAAAAY WORSE.
Don’t laugh, but yes, I watched the whole video as POTUS shook hand around the room…lol
Me too 🙂 I love seeing him interact with people like that. I love seeing the excitement on their faces
That was a wonderful forum. It gave Pres. Obama a chance to share his ideas and policy plans to a very huge demographic. It was so much to live tweet.
Romney should be scared about the debates. Pres. Obama is not taking this election as a joke. He is going to bring his A-game.
Thanks UT! I look forward to more of your feedback if you’re so inclined. *hint* *hint*
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Your wish is my command PJ. I will post my live tweets of the event. 😀
Right on ut.
UT, hate to bother you, but could you give us the link to your tweets from this event? I always love reading your live tweets!
Okey dokey. I’m posting my live tweets now. 😀
Thank you, thank you! We were ready to grovel too! 🙂
well that was a nice warm up for PBO to prepare for the insane “moderators” he’ll face in the us debates. he was outstanding handling it. this is going to be good! he’s seems so comfortable in his role now now that he’s had a few years. in 2008, even though he was the best by far in the primaries and the general, PBO would sometimes seem a little unsure of how to answer some things, but now, wow, he’s nailing it!
i’d like to see him explain to the viewers a little more about how there was the famous “do nothing congress” many years ago, and how the republican congress puts the do-nothing congress to shame. truly. he can then pivot the message as to why people need to vote for democrats across the board, which he did reference in his closing statement. this is a good sign that he’s moving in that direction with his messaging. yessssss!!!
Sounds good. Can’t wait to check out the clips later!
I noticed a WHOLE LOT of people shaking hands at the end mouthing the words, “you have my vote.” And we have to remember this is Florida. I’m not particularly worried about the Latino vote in general.
You are right meta. These Univision moderators certainly don’t speak for the majority of Latino voters who can decipher for themselves which candidate has their bests interest and which one doesn’t.
Thanks peaches! 😀
Thanks UT! Much appreciated.
I would really, really like to see some good substantive questions in the debates posed to PBO and Mitt. The debates are too often gotta questions and don’t provide any real information and thoughts on solutions.
I’ve never been impressed with the American way of conducting Presidential debates. Actually, it’s a misnomer to call them debates. I prefer to call them joint news conferences by opposing candidates. And given the state of U.S. corporate media, which prefers sensationalism over serious substance about real issues, I doubt that we will “see some good substantive questions” asked by these moderators.
Because Mitt is a failure as a candidate.. and because most of America is becoming wise to the fact that he’ll be an even bigger failure as a President… be absolutely certain that from now to election day, the media will do their utmost to shore him up- we will be running against media far more than we are against romney.. imo.
So true. The media has always been the worst enemy of the country.
President Obama throughout his entire life he has gone through the fire and fire forges steel. These idiots here are like tiny mosquitoes and President Obama swats them away effortlessly. When they go back and look at the video and see how badly President Obama dismissed their foolishness, they will be more enraged.
Bravo.
awesome job ut, as always, thank you~
Awesome. Thanks for including the crowd response. Truly appreciated.
UT, I’m dipping in and out at the moment, just trying to get some work finished, but just to say …….. your tweets are beyond magnificent. Love ya girl!
I second you Chipsticks! UT is wonderful for many of us who never get to watch these events live. Great thanks to you Chips for creating this magnificent space that make it possible for UT to educate us. It seems that the only thing the mainstream media is peddling from PBO appearance at Univision is all about changing Washington from the outside. I always come here late because of my part-time work schedule, but I always make sure to read everything. Otherwise, I would be lost. I have consciously made a point of avoiding corporate (mainstream) media.
thinking about some of the recent writings by liberal librarian and others about the end of the republican party and the new era of politics, this little forum was such a good example of that i thought. it used to be that republican talking points, that have been baked into the public consciousness for decades by the media, could be trotted out like like they were at an event like this and it actually would hurt the democrats in general in polling and in tripping them up in their response. it often felt like you were powerless to stop the insanity since it was so pervasive.
now though, anyone who ever tries that nonsense ends up being the ones with egg on their face, just as these supposed moderators were today. the republican talking points now backfire on candidates who speak them and media people who try to push them!! this is a colossal change!! the is the new normal in the age of obama. he’s altered the world’s politics on so many levels is breathtaking. i’m so thankful to be alive to see this happen.
for all those generations who have fought these same forces we’re taking down today, each one of us must make sure every local democrat in your area gets elected. no exceptions. we can finish the work of generations over the next couple of months. forward!!!!
Very good observations. (And I’m not just saying that because you name-checked me.) The old playbook is not working. No amount of effort by the RW or the MSM can change that. A large part of that is due to having someone like Obama leading at this time. He was the right person in the right place at the right time. And Democrats are finally being remade in his image — strong, confident, unafraid to speak their values. The wimpy Dems who lost in 2010 were the last of the chaff; when we retake the House this November, we’ll have much stronger Dems in there.
not to mention social media that allows fact checking, push back, call out, and in your face real time corrections. PBO was genius in implementing and accepting the benefits of social media, while his opponents seem to fear it. Even now in Mit’s 2012 campaign, they fail to use it to its full advantage. Even McIDon’tKnwHowToType had an interactive campaign site. Mitt has no way for his folks, volunteers, or base to even leave a comment.
“we can finish the work of generations over the next couple of months. forward!!!!”
Yes We Can
Yes We Must
That is our moral obligation to all those who came before us and sacrificed, in many cases their life, to provide us our opportunity to write a new, more inclusive and more equitable chapter in the American story.
Well stated, 4more for 44. Your last injunction is difficult in a red county, but we’re doing our best. But you are absolutely right about the Republican talking points not working as they once did. People are beginning to see them for what they are–phony, setups designed to trip up Democrats. And Democrats have learned to walk taller, speak smarter and stay on message since PBO came into their lives.
That’s my President. ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
This was one of the best parts of the Univision forum.
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Muchas gracias chica! Besos y abrazos!
Yes, indeed. The voters aren’t fooled by MSM gotcha questions – in fact they only garner more respect for our President as he takes time to thoughtful and detailed responses to each question, no matter how aggressive, redundant, hostile, etc…
Thanks for livetweeting this UT!! You’ve more than done your part in helping to disseminate useful and relevant information in this President’s re-election bid.
Well done, ut, as always!!! I only had ~ 5 min to listen so really appreciate the tweets.
UT! {{{{{UT}}}}}}! Thank you! LOVE that last one too!
Thank you so much, UT. This is a huge effort an so very much appreciate your live tweeting – and so easy to retweet!
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If you can stomach it here is the Romney interview. You decide if they were as aggessive with Romney as they were with PBO.
http://noticias.univision.com/destino-2012/videos/video/2012-09-20/meet-the-candidates-with-mitt-romney
Donna I could barely get through the first 10 minutes of this forum. It’s clear that Romney was treated with kids gloves, and he was also allowed to lie about President Obama’s inability to get Immigration reform done in his first year without being challenged to address the obstructionist congress. When they did challenge him, you could hear the hesitation in their voice…”well, er..with all due respect..er,.er”
Then I noticed that the audience was stacked with STRONG Romney supporters, because it seemed they clapped and cheered every 5 sentences regardless of what he said, and actually booed the moderator (loudly) when she tried to challenge him on his flip-flopping immigration stance. Why did Univision allow this in the first place? This was not an “Independent” crowd.
Exactly HF2! You lasted about as long as I did. Both Meta and I were watching and had to shut it down because it was just awful. Today those moderaters were the exact opposite with PBO. To me it was disgusting!
New Obama ad.
New post everyone:
http://theobamadiary.com/2012/09/20/romney-he-hasnt-got-around-a-lot/
Check out this cool [NEW] picture of President Obama, Jay-Z & Beyonce ….dusts their shoulders off… from the Fundraiser they held:
Willards slogan in Sarasota Florida-
Protect and Stengthen Medicare.
What a bunch of Fly Puke!
Mitt Romney at Boca Raton fundraiser:
“if the Hispanic voting bloc becomes as committed to the Democrats as the African American voting bloc has in the past, why we’re in trouble as a party and, I think, as a nation.”
Did the Univision moderators ask Romney about this statement? Because if they did I haven’t found any evidence of it.