12:25 ET: President Obama delivers remarks at Eden Park’s Seasongood Pavilion, Cincinnati

4:30 ET: PBO delivers remarks at Schiller Park, Columbus

Will double-check these times in the morning


Chat away 😉

206 Responses to “Tomorrow”

  1. 1 Martha
    September 16, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    First yea

  2. September 16, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    I could never be a Jew or a Muslim. I love piggy goodness way too much. And pork is generally healthy meat.

  3. September 16, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    Thank you for the new thread, Chips, and congrats to Martha!!!

    Will not let this issue rest …

    #NEOCONSTERS must NEVER have control of the Presidency, ever again. And, this flagrant interference by Bibi and Adelson should be leveraged maximally by our team to ensure they are crushed on 6 Nov.


  4. 13 utaustinliberal
    September 16, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    Ahhh…crap. His first speaking event is when I’m in class. WHY?????!!!!????? Pres. Obama. Why can’t you schedule your events when I’m free?

  5. 20 vcprezofan2
    September 16, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    Late again! Is it really tomorrow already? I’m a mite confused. Am I late or early?

  6. 28 jeff
    September 16, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    David Gregory got slammed for claiming that Bibi is the leader of the Jews.

  7. 30 utaustinliberal
    September 16, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    • 31 prettyfoot58
      September 16, 2012 at 10:11 pm

      Soooo now we have Rahm Emanuel morphing into Scott Walker as he tries to break the UNION…..

      • 32 lisalovesobama
        September 16, 2012 at 11:20 pm

        Okay, that’s going too far. There’s no comparison between Ratface and Rahm. Please check your facts before you start smearing. Thank you. Unions aren’t sacred, yes they serve a vital purpose, but that gives them no right to be unreasonable and leaving kids out in the cold. Those teachers need to be in the classroom, not moving the goal post and talking about getting more. Ridiculous.

        • 33 cookemom
          September 16, 2012 at 11:34 pm

          What do you know about how Rahm is managing Chicago? Do you know how the people in Chicago feel about him as Mayor? i agree no comparison in politics in Rahm and Walker, but there certainly is one in deed. Since when does a Mayor sue to get teacher’s back to school. How about settling the damn strike though negotiation. That’s why they call it bargaining. Each side bargains in good faith until it’s done. The parents of those kida are behind the union in this. You got one sentence from the MSM about what Karen Lewis said and from that you say they’re moving the goal post.

          • 34 lisalovesobama
            September 16, 2012 at 11:44 pm

            I understand you have your opinions, as do I. This strike was a bad idea and the comparison between Rahm and Scott Walker is ridiculous.

          • September 17, 2012 at 1:40 am

            (The parents of those kida are behind the union in this.) Parent are always with the teacher union, that why it so hard to reform the system. Go Rahm! ……Most was against the obama bailout,including democratic but it work.

          • 37 idon
            September 17, 2012 at 2:08 am

            The sticking point in the negotiations is a 2010 law which requires Chicago schools to implement a teacher evaluation system linking 25% of a teacher’s evaluation to student academic performance outcomes for two years and then 30% in subsequent years. Implementation must start with 300 schools and be fully implemented by March 2013. Since it is a law, it cannot be repealed through collective bargaining. It appears this is the only sticky wicket and it appears to be the one that cannot be negotiated through collective bargaining.

        • 38 prettyfoot58
          September 17, 2012 at 6:43 am

          if he is forcing the teachers back to work…thru a court injunction…that is union busting…..you are free to disagree with what i said….so be it….but Rahm Emanuel did not have to let it get to this point…his hard line against the Union does not sit well with the parents of Chi town either…

  8. September 16, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    Bringing this over from the bottom of the previous thread because it really is entertainment I’d like to share with all of you 🙂

    ‘Mitt Romney’s brave and lonely campaign to re-elect Obama’

    “Mitt Romney is doing everything that he can to re-elect Barack Obama and to defeat the Tea Party candidates down ballot. We need to step up and let him know that we have his back.

    Vote for Obama!
    Vote a straight Democratic ticket!”

    What’s really funny is look who tweeted it 🙂


    • 40 4morefor44
      September 16, 2012 at 9:11 pm

      f- michael moore. just before the dnc he was going around saying that mittbot was going to win and that we all now should get used to saying the words “president rmoney.” he then went on to the usual professional leftist tripe about president obama not doing what he promised and so on…it was insane. it was the last straw for me and i got rid of all my michael moore books and dvds, many of which were signed by him for me at events over the years. felt good. we must never forget how traitorous this slug has been toward president obama, and remember this when moore will inevitably start kissing up to president obama again when it’s clear barack will win again. i can believe how fooled i was by this clown for so many years.

      • 41 Pamela
        September 16, 2012 at 9:15 pm

        I am not even going to click on it……

      • 42 jeff
        September 16, 2012 at 9:17 pm

        I so agree!

        I was the same way. I believed in Moore and thought he really stood up for his beliefs but when it comes to the president (the one that comes closest to his interests) Moore offers nothing but hatred.

      • 43 ewok2
        September 16, 2012 at 9:20 pm

        I too remember MM writing a disgustung piece on DKOS in 2009 where he is writing in the first person that Stanley Ann obama is disappointed in her son.

      • September 16, 2012 at 9:37 pm

        I agree,
        Vandehovel of the nation was on Stephanie miller talking about some piece she has coming up in the nation when she started to bash PBO. Fugelsan?sp corrected her about why we could not get the public option and lowering age to 55 cos of the liebermans and other blue dogs. I was like this woman is supposed to be a journalist where as fugelsan is a pundit and knows more about the issues. She backtracked after that. These people are not interested in educating the public there are only interested in cash or facetime on shows. From now onwards they have lost me and will never take them at their word even if there is republican in office.

      • 45 nospin
        September 17, 2012 at 1:34 am

        “f- michael moore.”

        times 2

    • 46 susanne
      September 16, 2012 at 9:26 pm

      ignore moore, but do read the kos article!!

      It’s great fun, and actually makes more sense than you’d expect.

    • September 17, 2012 at 1:46 am

      Folks – the statement was “what’s really funny is to look who TWEETED it” – the little entertaining piece was not written by MM, I just thought it entertaining that he had RT’d it.


  9. 49 FoxfireTX
    September 16, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    Bringing over from the end of the last thread.

    Can’t ya just hear the Obama team chuckling over this???? FIVE page article just up on Politico about the implosion of the Romney campaign: “Inside the Campaign: How Mitt Romney Stumbled” http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81280.html?hp=t1 Explains some of the weird stuff that happened at the RNC. So where is the hot shot business manager??????LOL!!!!

    • 50 lisalovesobama
      September 16, 2012 at 9:35 pm

      This was very insightful. The RW Trolls in the comments section were so distraught, they all ignored the content of the article–which made no mention of PBO– and went straight o bashing him, after lemming Politico as left wing propagandists. Hahahahahahaha!!!!! 😆 Funny.

    • 51 idon
      September 17, 2012 at 12:10 am

      Yep. I read it to my husband. It looks there’s going to be a sequel to HBO’s Game Change movie. In the sequel though MITTNOCCHIO will be the one imploding his campaign and not his #2. Of course if they decide to unleash their LYINRYAN dog, the implosion may happen a lot earlier. LYINRYAN is a narcissist, you know the type who lies about his record even though he knows his lies are easily debunked. In the clinical psych filed we refer to these type of individuals as sociopaths.

  10. September 16, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    • 53 HZ
      September 17, 2012 at 1:53 am

      FAMU will love FLOTUS. It is a very historical university in FL., even though they just had to go through some difficulties recently. However, there are some very strong students with a lot of great history surrounding the school.

      I pray that our beautiful First Lady will bring happiness and encouragement into their space as well as receive some love and hugs from the students into her space. They will be a large voting block of young people from that university in FL. So let us pray and send out good thoughts for a safe trip and a very positive one for the vote as well. May the angels of love, gentle spirits of courage carry our FLOTUS on their wings.HZ

  11. September 16, 2012 at 9:16 pm

  12. September 16, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    Oh, dear. Fire up the popcorn machine.

  13. September 16, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    Both Joe Biden and Paul Ryan have a reputation for being better than their running mates at connecting with the blue-collar whites that both campaigns say are important to gaining strength in Iowa and other toss-up states.

    Monday, Biden, the Democratic vice president seeking re-election, will be in Burlington, a blue-collar river-side town where unemployment this year has been slightly higher than the statewide average.


  14. September 16, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    • 62 Pamela
      September 16, 2012 at 9:38 pm

      And perhaps the WaPo editorial board could just ask old Myth what is he hiding in his tax returns… While they are on the subject of TAXES!

  15. September 16, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    My 2 cents on the Chicago teachers’ strike.

    I’m a union member. And our union realized that this economy was not the right one in which to push for a pay raise. We kept our benefits and that was enough. We’ll go for a pay raise when the County is back on a firmer footing tax-wise. I’m sorry to say, but the CTU is missing the forest for the trees. Take the deal and negotiate later when things are better.

  16. September 16, 2012 at 9:24 pm

  17. 78 desertflower
    September 16, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    I LOVE Adam Levine…Now I love him MORE!


  18. 83 hopefruit2
    September 16, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    A seven-point PPP bounce for Warren 🙂

  19. September 16, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    You may have heard about the vaunted Barack Obama grass-roots campaign, which in Florida now includes nearly 80 field offices, hundreds of full-time staffers and the recent addition of 1,100 “fellows” — specially trained organizers who commit to devoting at least 20 hours a week to turning out the vote.

    It stands to make the campaign’s unprecedented 2008 effort in Florida look like amateur hour.
    No word yet on public campaign events in Tampa Bay this week, but Mitt Romney is scheduled to be in Sarasota for a fundraiser Thursday, the same day Barack Obama is in Tampa for a fundraiser at the home of Donn Miggs and Lisa DeBartolo. Among the guests expected? Pearl Jam’s Eddie Vedder and prominent chef Tyler Florence, who is doing the food.

    Polls show president leading in Florida

    A Sept. 13 NBC/Marist Florida poll found Barack Obama leading Mitt Romney 49 percent to 44 percent among likely voters (with a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1%) and 50 percent to 42 percent among a wider pool of registered Florida voters (Margin of error plus or minus 2.8 percent.

    Asked which candidate will do a better job handling the economy, Romney had a 1 point advantage among likely voters while Obama had a 10 point lead over Romney in handling foreign policy.

    Among likely voters, Democratic U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson held a 14 percentage point lead against Republican challenger Connie Mack IV, and 16 percentage points among registered voters.


  20. 94 utaustinliberal
    September 16, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    Have you all read the Politico five page story on Romney and his disastrous campaign? It’s hilarious. The underlying point is that Romney staffers are turning on each other like rats. They all have no sense of loyalty.

    • 95 hopefruit2
      September 16, 2012 at 10:04 pm

      Yes, it’s now all over Twitter. The campaign is imploding; not going anything nearly as planned, so they’re lashing out at each other. They truly thought beating Barack Obama would be a walk in the park. The MSM fooled a lot of people into believing that by portraying a Carnival fun-house image of PBO, not the real PBO.

      I don’t know whether you’ve read this article but it speaks clearly to some things about PBO that the Romney camp needed to know, but didn’t. And McCain did not warn his friend as to what he was up against, obviously. The only area I disagree with this article is it’s explicit position that the MSM is on Obama’s side. I think that’s total bull. But I agree with the other parts of the article.


      • 96 collegekay
        September 16, 2012 at 10:11 pm

        “it’s explicit position that the MSM is on Obama’s side.”

        Hot Air is a conservative blog so that is to be expected. Lol.

      • 97 FoxfireTX
        September 16, 2012 at 10:30 pm

        This is a great read. Romney is just so damn arrogant that he did not stop to consider there was a good reason PBO won both the primary and general in 2008, just thought he could coast on through. That arrogance is why I love watching his campaign fall apart. I was ready to go over the top with the way they ridiculed PBO at the RNC. From my perspective those disrespectful idiots aren’t fit to shine his shoes. But I’ll be happy to settle for a healthy win on Nov 6:-)

        • 98 daisydem
          September 16, 2012 at 10:52 pm

          I won’t settle with a big win in November. I want the GOP to totally implode … to be no longer. I have been waiting for this for a long time. Has anyone else read today of Romney’s affiliation(s) with Pamela Geller, and others … anti-Muslim bloggers, etc. here in the U.S.?

        • 99 donna dem 4 obama
          September 16, 2012 at 10:54 pm

          The crazy thing about Repubs such as Romney is that they believe their own press. They really believe that PBO was a failure and that all they had to do was to show up and the country would vote overwhelming for them. How else can anyone explain how a candidate can run without stating any policy details that he would enact and not give his tax returns. He honestly thinks he doesn’t have to do any of these things. They underestimated PBO and that the public really likes him and are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. The Convention solidified their belief in PBO which is why the polls moved into his favor. Romney’s got nothing because he has nothing to offer other than “it’s his turn” to be President (only in his mind).

          • 100 Zekke Lydonna
            September 17, 2012 at 1:14 am

            My God. This is so true. Rethugs have created a fictional president. They blame him for fictional actions. They have lied so often, they have begun to believe themselves. (He apologized for America, He has made us less safe, the stimulus failed, Democrats are not enthusiastic, he promised to keep unemployment rate below 8%, he added 6 Trillion to the national debt (1.3 trillion deficit before he took oath of office-Bush debt), he wouldn’t work with republicans, etc., etc. etc.)

            They also think the rest of the Country believes them, not recognizing that, the only people who believe them, also live in the alternate universe with them.

            MSM continues to insist that PBO ‘should’ be losing because of the economy. Bullshit. They use ‘conventional wisdom’ to justify this analysis. Riddle me this: Isn’t ‘conventional wisdom’ based on precedent? Isn’t Republican Obstruction UNprecedented?

            How can you discuss the economy/jobs, and assess PBO’s performance, without putting in context, the extraordinary Republican obstruction of his policies? This is madness. #TOTALMediaFAIL.

            And, How can ANY SANE political analysis pretend that Mitt-Fucking-Romney is competent to run this Country?

          • 101 EricFive
            September 17, 2012 at 3:27 am

            All they watch is FoxNews. All they work with and socialize with are people who believe the propaganda about PBO. They are “in the bubble” as Bill Mahr says, and facts cannot get inside. As a result you end up with a party of Clint Eastwords yelling at an imaginary PBO.

  21. 102 desertflower
    September 16, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    About Schiller Park visit by PBO tomorrow:

    Here’s what we know as of 9:30 a.m. Saturday:
    German Village’s tickets are sold out. Tickets already spoken for may be retrieved on Saturday 10-2 and Sunday 12-3 at the Meeting Haus.
    A few additional tickets may be available at the Obama field office 1247 S. High St. Each ticket requester must be at the field office in person – no one person will be handed more than one ticket.

    About 5,000 people will be bused to Schiller Park who are holding tickets on Monday afternoon.

    German Village is an awesome place! Maybe he’ll stop by Schmidt’s Sausage Haus…Yum!!

  22. 103 Dudette
    September 16, 2012 at 10:01 pm

  23. 106 hopefruit2
    September 16, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    • September 16, 2012 at 10:18 pm

      How can you be an Obama Voter and be undecided for Liz Warren?
      I noticed It’s the other way around in Florida, where Bill Nelson is up by 14 and the President is only up by 5.
      Those numbers should be closer together!

      • 108 hopefruit2
        September 16, 2012 at 10:21 pm

        Scott Brown tried to confuse the voters into thinking that he was voting for Obama’s bills in congress. I think many people foolishly thought he was an “Obama” Repub of MA. They’re now finding out that that is not the case.

  24. 109 desertflower
    September 16, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    Funny. http://juanitajean.com/2012/09/14/name-my-plane/ And read the comments…people are so clever!!

  25. 110 hopefruit2
    September 16, 2012 at 10:19 pm

    That’s because the good people of MA love their President and want PBO to be able to enact his agenda obstruction-free, with good Democrats like Liz Warren. The GOP “just say no” chickens of 2009-2011 are now coming home to roost, and Scott Brown is paying the price. Oh well, that’s what happens when you lie with dogs..you wake up with fleas.

  26. 113 donna dem 4 obama
    September 16, 2012 at 10:28 pm

  27. September 16, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    Report from Casa de LL.

    Dinner was GOOD. Enough for leftovers. I’m fat and happy.

  28. September 16, 2012 at 10:41 pm

  29. 122 donna dem 4 obama
    September 16, 2012 at 10:45 pm

  30. 125 hopefruit2
    September 16, 2012 at 11:06 pm

  31. 126 donna dem 4 obama
    September 16, 2012 at 11:08 pm

    The Obama campaign ad “The Question” aired during our home teams NFL Football game this evening. I had the entire family over for dinner tonight and this ad was all the buzz. To a person they felt that this was the best ad the campaign has put out this year. Seeing it on TV versus as a youtube video was far more powerful and convincing. I was pleasantly surprised that it made a difference but with this one it really did. 😎

  32. 134 desertflower
    September 16, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    Pretty much! http://robertreich.org/post/31668931701

    Why Romney and Ryan are Going Down

  33. 135 cookemom
    September 16, 2012 at 11:11 pm

    My rant on the Chicago School teacher’s strike. I writing it in answer to comments on the last thread and didn’t see the TOD train leave the station.

    Illinois is one of few states whose public education is dependent on property tax. That is where this whole problem should be addressed first. I do emphasize with the retiree/widow whose property taxes are going through the roof. However, if you read what other items are included in that bill, education is probably the most worthwhile. Don’t even get me started on the property taxes collected in one are and and another where there is little revenue obtained by those taxes. The disparity in how resources are allotted based on those taxes is mind boggling.

    Rahm, in his effort to get the longer and more school day, said that there would be teachers for art/gym/music. The teachers agreed to this and did not ask for additional money for the longer day. They just asked that the added time wouldn’t be for teaching to a test, or an after school babysitting service. Now there will be 600 such teachers. Great, if the school system didn’t have up to 400,000 students. How do 600 teachers begin to handle that? That’s called window dressing in my book. Rham is finding money to build new Charter Schools, while closing public schools. Sorry, but as we all know, Charter Schools can be selective in who they take and who they won’t. I have no problem with Charter Schools (a very close relative heads up the Chicago Charter Schools, love her to death), but we have to look at it as how well they serve the greater community. Chicago is the most segregated school district in the country, yet this strike has seemed to unite parents with teachers from all over the city.

    As for the raise, considering they gave back their increases last year or so, then the 7% over 3 years is hardly that whopping 2.3% per year the math would have us believe. This was not about the money anyway, and I for one think the teachers deserve a big kudo for making it about more than that. They deserve to get more if they can. It’s telling that the MSM is quoting Karen Lewis. Where are the quotes from the School Board or Rahm about how they have not done all that they can to make this better. This is an issue of Rham doing what he can for those teachers to whom we entrust our children. They get them for 6 or so hours a day. How many of them spend those other 18 hours in unsafe conditions and environments? Rahm needs to focus on what can really change the education system here. The answer isn’t the migration to Charter Schools, many of which have failed or perform no better than the public school. He needs to take care of what is the driver in poor student performance, poverty, security, health, and welfare of them and their families. One high school had 8 killings so far this year. Yeah, those students are ready to learn.

    I’m really tired of how the immediate reaction to this strike is to blame the teachers and the union. No one who’ve commented on this issue here has yet to say anything about what the School Board is doing or hold them accountable for this getting this far. Most are remarking based on some MSM person saying something. The hated MSM all of a sudden is the be-all in everything Chicago. It is only because of the connection to PBO that this is under discussion. How many other school districts across the were strikes in this year? As you know, there are two others right here in Illinois that are on strike. No one knows about it and no one’s making comments about how awful it is. Why isn’t anyone concerned that McConnell, Ryan and other Republicans are behind Rahm, the guy they hate? What does that tell you?

    I know this stuff is coming from a place of making sure PBO is re-elected and many may see this as putting him in jeopardy. Rest assured, PBO will be fine and Rahm will too (may or may not be a good thing). Folks should chill on this very local issue in a blue state that will not impact the Nov 6 outcome. Of course if you have children in the system, or are informed via direct local information as to the issues, or are a property tax payer, then you already know what’s at stake. It’s more than the rest are getting from the MSM.

    My 2 cents…..er 5 cents…..uh…….piggy bank…..um….the national deficit worth.

    • 136 vcprezofan2
      September 16, 2012 at 11:24 pm

      TY, CM, appreciate your on site perspective, really I do.

    • 137 MK
      September 16, 2012 at 11:35 pm

      Thank you so very much for this post. Thank you. It has been truly amazing to hear people who identify as progressive be so uninformed on this issue and yet automatically accept the MSM slanted coverage. I am on the ground here in Chicago and we all know what Rahm is doing here and it is AWFUL. This will not afffect the POTUS’s re-election because no one is honestly even talking about him here. This is all about the corporatists led by Rahm and their attempt to break this union. It is truly disgusting.

      • 138 cookemom
        September 16, 2012 at 11:43 pm

        The reaction here is almost unbelievable.

      • 139 lisalovesobama
        September 16, 2012 at 11:46 pm

        This is just an honest question, but why would Rahm Emmanuel want to break CTU?

        • 140 cookemom
          September 17, 2012 at 12:13 am

          I’m not saying he’s trying to break them, but I believe in negotiating until a settlement is reached. There is no need for the strong arm Walker-like tactic of bullying through threats of law suits. That’s why it’s called bargaining. Both sides bargain in their best interest, but with a willingness to give and meet in the middle. I don’t think Rham acts in good faith when he can just take it to court and force teachers back. There is no room for this behavior and it demoralizes the teachers, the parents, and the students.

    • September 16, 2012 at 11:41 pm

      I agree with about half of this, you still have not answered why the Teachers want to reverse the main Tenet of Race to the Top?

      Which is Merit Pay, grading if all Teachers, firing People who have Tenure, firing Teachers for not performing well in delapidated System in poor Neighborhoods, etc?

      Albeit, I appreciate your enthusiastic support for Unions, it’s important we all hear both sides of the Story…

      • 142 Claire
        September 16, 2012 at 11:45 pm

        I am an educator, in a union, and I support RTTT. However, I do believe I am in the minority. I know that it is one of the main reasons that CTU is striking (which they cannot say because they cannot strike for that reason). I don’t know many teachers who do support it, but I think the POTUS is right on this issue.

        • September 17, 2012 at 12:02 am

          Sounds about right. I think the President is Correct on this issue, as well!

        • 144 lisalovesobama
          September 17, 2012 at 12:08 am

          I appreciate this. Everybody’s for education reform but education reform is more than just reforming teaching plans, it’s about reforming the system and whether or not they like it, teachers are part of that system too. I can’t tell you how many classes I had in high school that were just about giving busy work. I can honestly say that I didn’t really learn, as in actively learn–not just memorize for a test– until I started taking AP classes. I can’t tell you how much I loved my teacher. He was so damned good. He made you work for your grade. By the time our AP equivalency exam came around, I didn’t have to study. I took those exams based on what I’d absorbed during the school year and I more than passed AP American History and AP European History. That man wouldn’t have known busy work if it walked right up and slapped him across the face. That means a lot to me. That’s what teaching is supposed to be. You’re supposed to be learning, adding to your fount of knowledge, not memorizing and certainly on the other hand, not teaching to the test. We shouldn’t be giving kids so many tests, but when we do, teachers must be held accountable. Not every kid in every class fails because they dont study or because they have a learning disability. I can remember taking first the FCAT then the SATs and thinking:”WTF??!!!! I don’t know what the hell this is! My teacher never mentioned this!!” so schools need to actually facilitate an environment where kids can learn effectively and when they are tested, the kids should at least be familiar with the material.
          My thing: less testing, more teaching, more accountability.

          • September 17, 2012 at 1:21 am

            I agree with lisalovesobama Education need to be reform and that include teacher. someone said (Rahm has stated that he wants to close over 100 public schools soon and replace them with Charter Schools, which is another thing teachers are worried about) why teacher are worried about this? They should be worried about the student learning. Where I live Charter school are doing OK. and the teacher are more concern about the student learning because it is tied to their pay. If student not learning, the teachers have step to follower, Most teacher do not follower those step, No matter what happen to the student the teacher is not held accountability. I have a slow learner grandson, and the teacher just did not follower thought with getting him some help until the second grade, lost time. They just want to lable him ESE. and wash their hand of him. He doing good with the extra help my daughter fought for.

      • 146 cookemom
        September 17, 2012 at 12:09 am

        Again, where are you getting your info from that they want to get rid of rttt? They want fairness and equity in rating the merit of the teachers. There’s been some agreement on what that looks like. The issue is how do you merit base student performance fairly. The question is Rahm living up to promises made before the strike was called. Teachers agreed with him on some things (more school days, longer school days without additional pay) in return for art, music gym classes. There were 600 teachers for 400,000 students allotted for the new curriculum. Some teachers are working in rooms that reach temps of 80-90 degrees. They have students coming to school hungry, barely sheltered and clothed for our extreme weather. They may work at the school where 8 students were killed this year of the 20+ shootings. You’re saying that because a teacher is located in a dilapidated area, they should be held accountable for reaching and motivating kids to learn when their priority is staying alive?

        Now tell me, should those teachers be rated on the performance of those students the same as the teacher who teaches at the school across town? The one where the affluent parents send their children off to school well fed, their own study area in the house that isn’t the same room where the family gather for TV, dinner, visiting and sleeping (the let out couch). As I said elsewhere the biggest problem these students have is getting the IPhone 5 first. Problems taking a test? These kids parents, pay for private tutoring.

        So why is it so hard to understand that it’s about equity and fairness? Which student would you rather be rated on? I don’t think poor performance should be awarded, but RTTT has been around for sometime now and it should not have taken a strike for the administration to come up with an acceptable way to measure cause reward and dismissal.

        Now you tell me the other side of the story. What do you know about this? Remember, using MSM slanted coverage is not acceptable. Tell me what the other side has done or given that should make the teachers, students, and parents feel that they are being treated fairly. These teachers have the support of most Chicagoans.

    • 147 lisalovesobama
      September 16, 2012 at 11:41 pm

      I hear you, but there is one thing I’ll point out to you and it has to do with line 6 paragraph 4 of your very coherent and honest comments. Willard and Ryan couldn’t care less about the specifics of Rahm’s plans or goals. The Go Back Team are just saying that to plant seeds of doubt in the minds of otherwise solid Obama/Dem supporters. Look upthread, already a staunch and loyal Dem is accusing Rahm, Rahm of all people of being like that Ratfreak Scott Walker! Scott MFing Walker! Look, I’m not in Chi-town, but we can agree to disagree, I don’t care, I still love you, but seriously, for me, this isn’t the time to start the infighting. This is not the time politically or educationally. The school year just started, now instead of being in school learning and preparing for SATs and other school based exams, the kids are sitting at home, no doubt stressing out their working parents. this doesn’t reflect well on the union and it’s a disservice to the kids. I’ve always believed that it’s a crime that teachers aren’t paid better and I’ve never been a fan of charter schools, that being said, this could have been handled better. I kept hearing they were close to a deal and now I’m hearing that CTU feels they can “get more”. More of what is my question, and from whom? ……. What about the kids?

      • 148 cookemom
        September 17, 2012 at 12:32 am

        The citizens of Chicago are in overwhelming support of the teachers. And yes, Rahm’s talking about taking this to court is Walkeresgue. He can continue to bargain in good faith until it’s settled. He is bullying his way through this, taking his ball and leaving the game. He’s gonna let the referees determine the outcome. He asked for this job and got it. Now he has it warts and all. It’s more than the beautiful lake front and the hand-shaking. He basked in the glory of having been up close and personal with PBO which is how he got him the job. He can’t just ride his white house experience. He has to govern. He has to make the educational system in Chicago one that is conducive to learning no matter what part of town you’re from. He has to listen to the teachers and parents. Chicago is one of the few cities where the Bd of ED is an appointed position. It’s one of a few that has an educational committee who has a say in expenditures who have been missing in action.

        There is no infighting and if it weren’t for PBO’s connection to Rahm, there would be no discussion about this. Chicago has the most segregated school system in the country. Inherent in that are issues way beyond what you’re hearing. I can’t believe that all of a sudden there’s this out pouring of concern about the kids here. If this strike is causing doubt in the minds of Dems, then they are shakable in their belief about who they are politically. Tell me this, what are the other two school districts experiencing teacher strikes in Illinois right now? any concern about those kids? Any idea about what those teachers should be doing? If you don’t know the answer to these questions, it’s because the mayor of those towns don’t have close ties to PBO. That tells you it isn’t about the kids.

    • 149 cookemom
      September 16, 2012 at 11:46 pm

      Well, I just reread what I wrote again. I’m surprised anyone even understood it. I was typing faster than my mind was feeding the info to my fingers. I thought about correcting it, but couldn’t be sure it’d make much difference. Sorry for the garble, but I’m hoping you get my drift.

    • 150 Brit
      September 17, 2012 at 12:38 am

      Thank you for writing this post, because many are not understanding what is ACTUALLY going on.

      • 151 Brit
        September 17, 2012 at 12:44 am

        Rahm has stated that he wants to close over 100 public schools soon and replace them with Charter Schools, which is another thing teachers are worried about.

  34. 152 theo67
    September 16, 2012 at 11:49 pm

    For those who haven’t taken time to read the Vanity Fair article – I highly recommend it! It’s a brilliant insight into the genius that is President Obama. He’s a once in a billion wonder. Here’s a snippet:

    “Obama then proceeded to call on every single person for his views, including the most junior people. “What was a little unusual,” Obama admits, “is that I went to people who were not at the table. Because I am trying to get an argument that is not being made.” The argument he had wanted to hear was the case for a more nuanced intervention—and a detailing of the more subtle costs to American interests of allowing the mass slaughter of Libyan civilians. His desire to hear the case raises the obvious question: Why didn’t he just make it himself? “It’s the Heisenberg principle,” he says. “Me asking the question changes the answer. And it also protects my decision-­making.” But it’s more than that. His desire to hear out junior people is a warm personality trait as much as a cool tactic, of a piece with his desire to play golf with White House cooks rather than with C.E.O.’s and basketball with people who treat him as just another player on the court; to stay home and read a book rather than go to a Washington cocktail party; and to seek out, in any crowd, not the beautiful people but the old people. The man has his stat­us needs, but they are unusual. And he has a tendency, an unthinking first step, to subvert established stat­us structures. After all, he became president”.


  35. 155 dotster3
    September 16, 2012 at 11:50 pm


    • 156 amk for obama
      September 17, 2012 at 12:52 am

      As an electrical engineer, I find this totally stupid. Idjits playing with fire, literally.

      One dictum in electrical engineering circles – electricity is a good servant but a bad master. Of course, the other engineers don’t get it and get their hands burnt. 🙂

  36. 157 dotster3
    September 16, 2012 at 11:52 pm

  37. 158 dotster3
    September 16, 2012 at 11:58 pm

  38. 159 vcprezofan2
    September 17, 2012 at 12:12 am

    GOP want to say that PBO has ‘damaged…….whatever’. Has there ever been anything like this under previous presidencies?

    • 164 Dudette
      September 17, 2012 at 2:18 am

      Wow! I’m amazed. He put on his journalism hat. Good for him.

    • 165 HZ
      September 17, 2012 at 2:32 am

      Good Night Chips and my TOD family. I just wanted to end my evening by stating that my heart is still in a place that is filled with so much pain for what happened to our four families this past week.

      I have to keep a space in my heart and my home for these brave families and for POB and Sec. of State, Hillary Clinton. I know that we will all keep our spaces remembering these honorable men who gave us their last. Let us keep their families in our prayers and quiet times to help them get through this tough time.

      Let us also keep POB and Sec. Clinton, and Sec. Panetta and all of the teams who are working 24/7 to bring justice for these brave lives. We are a beautiful people who now have the opportunity to come together with POB and VPBiden and focus on what is the right thing to do. That is my prayer for POB. God Almighty, please give POB and Sec. Clinton, grace and wisdom to take us through these difficult times.

      Please rest your loving mercy and grace upon each family, and give them a healing peace. Amen.HZ

      • 166 Dudette
        September 17, 2012 at 3:13 am

        Amen HZ. You always have a way of encapuslating our feelings in the most compassionate and loving way. Thank you for you beautiful words and your beautiful spirit. {{{HZ}}}

    • 167 anniebella
      September 17, 2012 at 7:51 am

      Thank to Don Lemon for speaking the truth about the lying Mitt Romney and his attempt to play politics with the death of those 4 Americans.

  39. 168 Dudette
    September 17, 2012 at 2:53 am

    Always loved me some Sheryl Lee Ralph… check her and her husband PA State Senator Vincent Hughes in Charlotte

  40. 172 CaliCat
    September 17, 2012 at 3:42 am

    I’m kind of annoyed that lost in all the “Romney is losing cuz he sucks” headlines is the notion that President Obama could be winning because he’s an excellent president and still an excellent candidate. I’m tired of the media meme that Obama should be losing and the Rs should be winning save for Willard’s ineptitude. Maybe, just maybe, Mr. Obama is winning because he’s a really brilliant and likable president and the American people want him back for four more years – despite Republican efforts to sabotage the economy.

    Having said that, I couldn’t be happier that Romdouche is blowing it big time.

    • 174 99ts
      September 17, 2012 at 4:06 am

      It’s like saying the President is the “luckiest” of men – it isn’t luck that got the President where he is – and it isn’t Romney losing that will ensure PBO of 4 more years. He is the best of the best and has well earned where he is and where he is going. He also has a ground swell of supporters who despite the best efforts of GOP legislators are making sure that those who want to vote can vote.

      Having said that, the landslide will be greater because of the implosion of the GOP – that Romney is the best on offer says some ghastly things about the rest of the party.

    • 175 nathkatun7
      September 17, 2012 at 4:32 am

      Thank you CaliCat for this! I agree with you 100% ! I am tired of people not giving this magnificent President credit. I am especially tired of the so called mainstream media (actually they are corporate media) that employ some of the dumbest people to analyze politics. Like you, I think the reason Romney “sucks” is that he is running against a master. The Clintons found that out and so did war hero John McCain. Romney may have thought that defeating Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry and Herman Cain was such a big deal and he would just waltz into the presidency. The “political geniuses” advising him forgot to tell him that President Obama was elected by over 69 million Americans; that’s the most votes that an American President ever received in history.President Obama received 19 million more votes that President Bush received in 2000. And, unlike Bush who was selected by the Supreme Court, President Obama won an electoral landslide. To assume that all the people who voted for him in 2008 would quickly abandon him is the height of political naivety.

      • 176 CaliCat
        September 17, 2012 at 5:14 am

        I shouldn’t be surprised. The corporate media and PBO’s political enemies have been trying to degrade him for since day one. They think if they don’t acknowledge his talents and constantly criticize him then maybe people will look at him differently. It’s sort of the opposite of “The Emperor’s New Clothes” fable – no matter how good or exceptional Barack Obama is they refuse to give him full credit in hopes that no one else will either. Thankfully, this strategy isn’t working so well. American’s know a good thing when they see it.

  41. 177 Tally
    September 17, 2012 at 3:51 am

    • 178 nathkatun7
      September 17, 2012 at 6:41 am

      Unlike Liz Cheney, President Obama, who is reality based, is not concerned with non existent Czechoslovakia. He is instead focused on establishing friendly relations with the Czech Republic. President Obama has also stopped focussing on the non-existent Soviet Union so that he may focus on cultivating mutually beneficial relations with Russia. President Obama also knows that there is no longer a West Germany and an East Germany. His task is to deal with Germany.

      Liz Cheney and her fellow right wingers need to know that the old Cold War maps have actually changed. Throughout the long history of mankind, maps have drastically changed. Empires have come and gone. Many countries have taken on new names, or even resorted to old names if their old names had been altered by the conquerers. Usually a country taking on a new name sees as a way to assert its independence.

      Just to illustrate the nature of changing maps for Liz Cheney, let’s look at the United States. Presidents from George Washington to Dwight Eisenhower presided over a different map of the United States. Lets focus on highly respected Military Generals to illustrate the changing nature of U.S. map: Gen. George Washington presided over a much smaller territory than Gen. Andrew Jackson; And, Gen. Andrew Jackson preside over a much smaller territory than Gen. Ulysses Grant; Likewise, Gen. Ulysses Grant preside over a much smaller territory than Gen. Dwight Eisenhower. Of corse all these Presidents, and their successors, had to incrementally deal with a more complex changing map of the world.

      It is really sad to witness the cluelessness of these so called Republican experts in foreign policy. They are just so frozen in the politics of the cold war era. In spite of the reality that the world has dramatically changed since the presidency of Ronald Reagan, their idolized hero, these people are still obsessed with the cold war. They are so blind to what is actually going in the Middle East as people there are engaged in revolutions to get rid of dictators of all political stripes. If they cared to study the history of revolutions they would realize that revolutions are never tidy; and nor can they be controlled by outsiders.

      People like Liz Cheney and her father, and all the Romney advisors and enablers, are trying to sell this phony idea that some how the President of the United States can control the revolutions (better known as the Arab spring) taking place in the predominantly Muslim Arab world. Any one who buys into What Romney and the right wingers are trying to sell is an idiot. Revolutions, including the American Revolution, are unpredictable. It always takes time, after revolutions, to get back to normality and stability. But even a unified country for 71 years, like the U.S was., ended up splitting apart and engaging in a bloody Civil War that is still on record as the mostly costly in the loss of human lives in the history of U.S. wars. I am sure no one would dare suggest that it was a mistake for the 13 colonies to declare independence from Great Britain just because 85 years later the United States split up and engaged in a bloody Civil War for four years. Yet I’ve heard voices criticizing the President four supporting the people’s uprisings that got rid of dictators like Gaddafi (Libya) and Mubarack(Egypt).

    • 179 anniebella
      September 17, 2012 at 7:04 am

      Cheney is as mean and racists as her Daddy, and all the other Republicans who hate the black President.

  42. 180 Tally
    September 17, 2012 at 3:55 am

    • 182 nathkatun7
      September 17, 2012 at 6:48 am

      I just read that piece, DF, and it’s a “must read”! Smartypants is one of the most brilliant and astute observer of President Obama. I just love the way she meticulously goes about analyzing the President’s thoughts and actions. If I had a direct connection to the Obama campaign I would urge them to bring her on board or to link to many of her commentaries.

      • 183 anniebella
        September 17, 2012 at 7:36 am

        Was POTUS on 60 Minutes last night? You know the interview he did with Scott Pelley where he said that sometimes Gov. Romney likes to shoot first and aim later.

  43. September 17, 2012 at 7:31 am

    Citizens United has struck a deal with a dozen television stations to run its hour-long film featuring voters disaffected with President Barack Obama, sending the Republican critique of the incumbent into tens of millions of homes in the lead-up to Election Day, the group’s officials told POLITICO.

    If everybody is sooooo disaffected, then Why is the President clearly winning?
    This is Patty Hearst style ads.

  44. September 17, 2012 at 7:35 am

    WTF ! Woodward is all over the airwaves on MSNBC and CNN
    blaming Obama for everything. He is such a dog, trying to make Obama look bad. After Obama election,Woodward will not be remember, He have made a big boo boo, trying to blame obama for everything, when the republican on day one wanted Obama to fail.

    • 187 anniebella
      September 17, 2012 at 7:41 am

      What is it with these guys when they get old they act like a bunch of dam senile idiots. Maybe Woodward is trying to capture his glory of old. And so is Dan Rather, Tom Brokaw. These are guys we used to respect, not anymore.

      • September 17, 2012 at 7:47 am

        Why does the WH keep giving Him access? When will they learn, he is not a supporter, as he is trying to sell books to Tea Baggers.

        • 189 anniebella
          September 17, 2012 at 7:53 am

          Good question. We need to ask the WH about that.

        • 190 Nena20409
          September 17, 2012 at 9:56 am

          My little sister and I were wondering the same very import question that you have raised Jovie.

          Here is my take on it. Pres Obama, especially would take what is agreed upon…..in this case, Woodward as a famous well respected Journalist…..my opinion….Not so much any more…. and Pres Obama just let Woodward expose his bias and there by rendering his image useless. Woodward may still be what every Journo wants to be without doing the work as Woodward did for many years. Now Woodward is a TBGOPer and hi gets press time and he gets quoted. FINE. Pres also allowed Lewis an eight MONTH access. Woodward is declining and Lewis is at the top of his game. That neutralizes the nonsense from DC/NY Woodward followers. The message would fall flat NO Matter how hard the DC crowd would try to prop Woodward out there. ABC News gave Woodward a whole hour show. ABC news gave Woodward Night Line and a chunk of GMA. What has happened? Not much. There is reason to look at things as they really are Not as the DC/NY media establishment wants it to be.

          No matter how hard they try, their efforts will fail. Romney as Steven Weistein said weeks ago is a Flawed Product.

      • 191 EDP4BHO
        September 17, 2012 at 7:57 am

        Morning TOD. You could respect them while they held their racism in check. No real challenges back then as it was never a threat of a black presidency, that esteemed position meant only for their ilk.

  45. September 17, 2012 at 7:36 am

    The stage was set with monster speakers and an electronic turntable in a strip mall parking lot, between the Little Caesars Pizza and E-Glam Beauty Supply.

    The party’s headliner was Diamond Kuts, a waify 20-something hip-hop DJ who favors big hoop earrings and, in the past few weeks, has become a fresh part of President Obama’s bid for reelection.

    “You didn’t come out here to see me,” she shouted to roughly 100 fans, who snapped photos with their cellphones and had clearly come to see her. “We’re not here for anybody else but Barack Obama!”

    DJ Diamond Kuts, whose given name is Tina Dunham, has 93,000 Twitter followers and a devoted audience of mostly 15- to 32-year-olds who appear in droves when she hosts block parties such as the one on a recent Saturdayin this predominantly black neighborhood. That following makes her a desirable pitchman for the Obama campaign in the final weeks of the presidential race, as the campaign refines its effort to thinly slice the electorate and reach every potential supporter.

    Dunham, one of dozens of DJs who have been recruited by the campaign to help the president, has begun shouting out to Obama on Twitter, promoting him at local events like this one and talking about him during her Saturday night radio show on Power 99, one of this city’s hottest urban radio stations.

    For church ladies, there is the Obama campaign’s “congregation captains” program. For college students, there is Students for Barack Obama. For young adults not on college campuses, like the afternoon dancers here in northwest Philly, there is the weeks-old DeeJays for Obama.

    The goal is to appeal to young voters to register and turn out to vote.


  46. September 17, 2012 at 7:38 am

    Woodward trying to cash in on the Obama Hate, He traded his soul for money

    • 194 anniebella
      September 17, 2012 at 7:49 am

      Maybe Woodward need to go talk to Jodi Kantor. Maybe he need to cash in on the support and love for President Obama.

  47. September 17, 2012 at 7:43 am

    That old leadership had meekly gone along for nearly a decade with the agenda of Chicago’s former public schools chief, Arne Duncan.

    And once Duncan went to Washington as President Obama’s Secretary of Education, his Chicago agenda became Obama’s Race to the Top. Duncan used federal aid to states for more closures of low-performing schools, teacher layoffs, merit pay raises, charter schools, and more standardized tests.

    It’s the same agenda our own Mayor Bloomberg, a handful of billionaire philanthropists and many Republican leaders across America have been pursuing.

    Lewis and her insurgent group vowed to challenge these so-called reforms head on. Once in command, she forged a close alliance with several Chicago parent groups whose members were equally furious at being excluded from educational decision-making.


    Yes! Good for Teachers and the Teachers union but what about the Kids?
    Rolling back the Race to the Top program? Really?

  48. September 17, 2012 at 7:56 am

    So, let’s rewind… Over the Weekend, The Hill has an article that Robney was going to make Obama look weak, foreign policy wise and Domestically.
    This morning, all the News networks are blaming the President for the violence overseas, and now some British Conservative is in tv saying the Economy sucks and it’s Obamas fault.
    Just like Robney said he would do, the News falls right in line.

  49. 197 dotster3
    September 17, 2012 at 8:19 am

    Sorry for being a broken record but news media is in full Obama takedown mode today. Chuck Todd on Today just said the unrest in the Middle East is the kind of event that “can derail an election”, demeaning his Cairo speech, said it now looks naive etc., stealing that from NYT’s Jeff Zeleney’s description. (Todd is the poorest excuse for a political reporter ever—-he even looks sleazy when repeating this garbage) Mornin’ Joke was Bob Woodward mumbling away in Obama’s bad mode AND he and the rest of the crew were blaming Obama for the Repub obstruction in Congress!!! The Repubs were so nice and helpful and Obama ignored all their kindly suggestions and never invited them over for steaks and martinis! Whackadoodle!

    • 198 COS
      September 17, 2012 at 8:26 am

      I just saw King Peter King On Soledad’s show blaming PBO for what’s happening over there. Apparently that is the new meme for today. I totally disagree. Romney and Ryan have no foreign policy experience and they want to take us into more wars. The American public do not want anymore wars. Anytime PBO is up in the polls, the media has to do their corporate jobs and do everything they can to try and take him down.

  50. 199 lisalovesobama
    September 17, 2012 at 8:25 am

    🙄 yahoo.com leading with a story about how blacks are on the dense about Obama, saying black clergy telling their congregation to stay home. What utter bullshit. 😡

  51. September 17, 2012 at 8:27 am

    I just noticed something from Robney event, right near the Alerican Flag, he is showcasing what looked like a Seccessionist Flag, with only 18 Stars.

  52. September 17, 2012 at 8:35 am

  53. 204 Linda
    September 17, 2012 at 8:46 am

    Now Woodward is on Washington Journal….taking calls.

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