Rise and Shine …. and Chat Away

Morning everyone – it’s another one of those Sundays when I have about an hour’s work to do, but it’ll probably take me six because I work at tortoise-pace. 😕

So, chat away – I’ll drop in and out to make sure Liberal Librarian isn’t spreading pro-Chelsea propaganda, etc.

354 Responses to “Rise and Shine …. and Chat Away”

  1. 1 taiping1
    September 16, 2012 at 8:58 am

    Happy sunday!

  2. September 16, 2012 at 8:59 am

    G’morning, Chips, TOD, lurkers, etc 🙂

  3. 4 amk for obama
    September 16, 2012 at 9:01 am

    Toon time

  4. 5 amk for obama
    September 16, 2012 at 9:02 am
  5. 6 amk for obama
    September 16, 2012 at 9:03 am
  6. 7 amk for obama
    September 16, 2012 at 9:03 am
  7. 8 amk for obama
    September 16, 2012 at 9:04 am
  8. 12 amk for obama
    September 16, 2012 at 9:04 am

    Rise and Shine …. and Chat Away in one thread ?

    Lazy bum.

  9. 25 dotster3
    September 16, 2012 at 9:07 am

    • 26 idon
      September 16, 2012 at 9:38 am

      This is not surprising. Did you see what the Libyan President said? Based on the evidence developed so far, foreigners were involved too. Yep. Follow the money.

      • September 16, 2012 at 12:13 pm

        I have said from the beginning that these protests had GOP stench all over it and nothing I ave read or seen since then has changed my mind. McCain had a hand in the Georgia/Russia affair during his 2008 campaign and this is no different IMO.

        • 28 Obama Grandmama
          September 16, 2012 at 12:41 pm

          Wow! I have been away tending to upcoming wedding arrangements with my soon to be son-in-law for a couple of days. We have not been watching news. He is gone now and I just came on the blog so I am trying to catch up on the mob riots in the Middle East.

          At the time I was thinking October surprise in September. The GOP trying to make Obama weak on foreign policy decisions. I also remember McCain’s Georgia episode prior to the election. Thankfully that went nowhere. I also remembered Reagan’s interference in the Iran hostage problem that was found out later when they didn’t want the prisoners released till his Inauguration. The GOP seem to regularly try to influence the elections now through foreign action.

          I think the previous Israeli meeting with Romney is skewing that way too. My other thoughts involved the person making this antiMuslem movie and whether that was paid to be done by the GOP as well as the mob interference in Egypt and Libya. It is like lighting a match in a barn full of hay as it would be uncontrollable once the fire started though. We have already seen the disregard for what is best for the American public through the GOP Congress refusing to act on any job plans or pass any Obama legislation.

          • 29 Theo67
            September 16, 2012 at 3:57 pm

            It’s not only disregard for the American public, but it’s a disregard for American life, from the “pro-life” crowd. There are diplomatic families and troops and travelers all around the world being put in danger because of their antics. It’s deplorable!

        • 30 idon
          September 16, 2012 at 12:47 pm

          This was also Nixon’s strategy in 1967 in which he wanted the Vietnam War to continue as one of his election talking points.

  10. 31 dotster3
    September 16, 2012 at 9:08 am

    • 32 hopefruit2
      September 16, 2012 at 9:10 am

      That’s a huge shift. Prior to the DNC convention, she was neck and neck with or trailing Scott Brown.

    • September 16, 2012 at 9:13 am

      POTUS helps ALL DEMS! I wonder why all the others are showing her in a virtual tie or trailing but this is good news!

    • 34 57andfemale
      September 16, 2012 at 9:22 am

      Was just going to post this. Thanks! great news.

    • 35 idon
      September 16, 2012 at 9:40 am

      So happy about this news. I think the gap between PervoScott and Elizabeth will widen even more. After what Scott said about his daughters on TV after he won Sen. Kennedy’s seat, I cannot believe any MASS woman would vote for PervoScott.

      • 36 hopefruit2
        September 16, 2012 at 9:57 am

        Yes, this latest poll is significant because the same polling outfit (Western New England) showed Scott Brown with a +8 pt lead in March of this year, and this is the highest lead Warren has ever had in this poll. She was up by 2pts in the last survey taken May 29-31, 2012.

    • 37 globalcitizenlinda
      September 16, 2012 at 12:21 pm

      I hope MA can deliver us and send Prof Warren to Senate in a seat that Sen Kennesy held for so long. What a brilliant legacy that would be!

      • 38 hopefruit2
        September 16, 2012 at 12:48 pm

        An interesting detail from the poll is that Elizabeth Warren now leads Brown by a staggering 30pt margin in Western MA – a region that Brown carried over Coakley in the 2010 special election. President Obama carried western MA over McCain by 26pts in 2008.

  11. 39 dotster3
    September 16, 2012 at 9:11 am

    • 40 forus50
      September 16, 2012 at 9:18 am

      Thanks dotster. IMO POTUS getting bin Laden had a subconscious effect on these older folks – they now at least listen to what he is saying as there is a level of trust there that wasn’t in 2008. And Clinton does help in a big way —which is again brilliance by POTUS to bring him on board with all his strengths including the the fact that he is considered (as he should be) an elder statesman,

    • 41 Melissa
      September 16, 2012 at 9:19 am

      Good news! Yay ..

    • 42 idon
      September 16, 2012 at 11:12 am

      I’m a senior. I think you young people forget we are the same peeps who marched in the Civil Rights Movement, burned our bras, and fought four our right to control our bodies and our destinies. We definitely have PBO’s back on this! The important thing is to VOTE THE STRAIGHT DEM TICKET. For non-partisan offices, make sure the judge is not a rightwing nut job, like the one in Texas. PBO has also asked us to VOTE early. NEVADA early VOTING starts on Saturday 10/20/2012. We will be there bright and early to cast our vote for the straight DEM ticket. It would be helpful if TOD posted the EARLY VOTING DATES for every state.

      • 43 prettyfoot58
        September 16, 2012 at 11:41 am



        • 44 idon
          September 16, 2012 at 1:00 pm

          My sistas, I’m praying for you and with you. I cannot imagine the court siding with the GOP on depriving over a million people, if not more, the right to vote.

      • September 16, 2012 at 12:28 pm

        Idon, we seniors remember and we will vote. We don’t have early voting in PA, but I’m ready to brave whatever it takes to vote and then help other people as they stand in line through a long day,

      • 46 Obama Grandmama
        September 16, 2012 at 12:48 pm

        In my state judges run nonpartison. I actually have tried to find out what party they have voted with and cannot. I hate voting for that without that piece of knowledge. Anyone know a site where I could find that info?

  12. 48 Melissa
    September 16, 2012 at 9:16 am

    Morning everyone!

    I’m still amazed Nut’N’Yahoo is allowed such a big platform like Meet The Press to spread his warmongering propaganda and continue his not so subtle interfererence in U.S politics!! WTF? What other foreign leader would be invited on a major network to give his thoughts on U.S policy this close to an election. One of the major papers in Israel, irritated by his callous poking of this administration, even asked point blank “What do you care about more? A non_nuclear Iran or the ousting of Obama?’ Well, eat it Bibi doz POTUS ain’t going nowhere.
    Israel is our friend but this guy sure isn’t. Hope when its time for their elections, they throw him out!

    • 49 Dudette
      September 16, 2012 at 9:26 am

    • 52 99ts
      September 16, 2012 at 9:27 am

      What other foreign leader would inject him/herself into the US elections in this manner? Most foreign leaders, while supporting President Obama, would NEVER “take sides” in a US election

      • 53 Melissa
        September 16, 2012 at 9:40 am

        99ts, I think its because his Republican friends in Congress are so treasonous, yes I said it!, that they encourage him instead of supporting their own President! His already oversized ego then grew to epic proportions. He’s in for a nasty surprise though..I hope when Obama gets reelected he unequivocally tells him to go where the sun don’t shine! My Jewish friends cant stand him, they say he’s a Bush wannabe with a side of Palin viciousness …Ugh.

        • 54 Theo67
          September 16, 2012 at 4:36 pm

          Don’t forget, both Dems and GOP both entertained Netanyahu in Congress (and his blatant disrespect of President Obama) when the President was overseas just last year.

    • 55 Linda
      September 16, 2012 at 9:37 am

      I am not sure anyone watches Meet the Presstitute anymore….

      I am sure I read the ratings are at a 20 year low.

    • 57 veryslowwriter
      September 16, 2012 at 11:08 am

      And it’s hurting POTUS so bad he’s ahead 75/25 among Jewish voters.

    • 58 nathkatun7
      September 16, 2012 at 5:19 pm

      Well said, Melissa!

  13. 59 Dudette
    September 16, 2012 at 9:17 am

    Good Morning Everyone!
    Love the toons and tweets amk and dotster. Couldn’t wait to retweet ’em! 🙂

  14. 61 utaustinliberal
    September 16, 2012 at 9:26 am

    Hey hey hey Chelsea is the GREATEST team ever Chips. The GREATEST. Stop spreading that Manchester United hateration.

    • September 16, 2012 at 9:29 am

      UT, it’s my mission in life to make you see the light. By the end of this season, I guarantee you, you’ll have Wayne Rooney’s face tattooed on your heart.

      • 63 utaustinliberal
        September 16, 2012 at 9:38 am

        I’d sooner declare Rick Santorum the smartest man on the planet than ever ever ever champion Wayne Rooney or Man U. I have more of a chance convincing you to become true blue than wear that crappy red jersey.

        Come on over Chips…..you know you want to. 😉

  15. September 16, 2012 at 9:33 am

    Good morning, Opeeps. #MuteThePress

  16. 70 criquet
    September 16, 2012 at 9:35 am

    Very good read and important in the context of today’s MTP “guest” :

  17. September 16, 2012 at 9:42 am

    I like Tammy Duckworth, but she isn’t a very well versed candidate.

    • 77 idon
      September 16, 2012 at 9:46 am

      Tammy did a great job at the convention. Tell me why you think she’s not a “well versed” candidate.

      • September 16, 2012 at 9:48 am

        I’m watching her debate Joe Walsh right now. That’s how I know. He’s dominating her with phony talking points.

        • September 16, 2012 at 9:50 am

          She just let him get away with saying that the recovery started before Prez Obama’s policies took place. He saying it is a jobless recovery.

        • 80 idon
          September 16, 2012 at 11:18 am

          Sounds like Tammy is doing the ROPE A DOPE w Joe Walsh, just let him talk until he tires himself out and loses it. I don’t think he has a chance in hell of winning re-election. Not going to happen. Tammy is a visual reminder of the heroes who fight our wars and the GOP members who fought hard against funding services for them. Really she doesn’t have to say anything. She just needs to stand there and let the nutjob bury himself.

    • 82 57andfemale
      September 16, 2012 at 9:56 am

      Are you watching a repeat of the Fox News-sponsored debate from Friday?

        • 84 57andfemale
          September 16, 2012 at 10:11 am

          That was a hatchet job by Fox. Now, she needed to fight back more effectively but they made it damn near impossible for her.

          She’s come a long way as a candidate. We need to get her message out effectively. Even ten bucks would help.

          I was visiting a friend in her district yesterday. My friend was back home from NH. he’s a good liberal but his family is pretty batshit crazy. I was glad to see the Tammy Duckworth signs outnumber Walsh. Of course my friend’s mother’s house had a Walsh sign, a Confederate flag and a HUGE sign saying, “Fight for our religious freedom”. As I said, batshit crazy. I picked him up and hightailed it outa there as fast as possible.

          • September 16, 2012 at 10:15 am

            Wow. Smh! It might be a hatchet job, but she allowed him to dominate the conversation. He can’t that loon get away unchecked. If she would have done more with the facts and checked his ass, she would have made her case at the same time. Not a very good showiing. But all in still I like her a lot.

            • 86 57andfemale
              September 16, 2012 at 10:38 am

              You’re not wrong. She doesn’t get a whole lot of chances and this could have been an important step.
              We have to be honest.

  18. 87 99ts
    September 16, 2012 at 9:45 am

    Rick Santorum, he of great moral turpitude, recently made the following comment “We will never have the elite, smart people on our side …” and the blogosphere agreed that smart people do not belong to the GOP.

    This had me thinking some nice thoughts despite the recent international events that Mitt Romney is definitely trying to use to gain a few political points
    – the smart people usually vote to the left of center
    – the smart people have no issues with black/white/brown or folks of any skin color in positions of power
    – the smart people know who to trust in times of international emergency – and that is not Mitt Romney
    – the dumb people spread lies and rumors which are only believed by the dumber people

    and finally
    – the republicans in congress have spent 4 years doing nothing except attempting to bring down the President. At this point in time there is an overwhelming possibility that they have not only failed, but many will pay the price for their bigoted views and actions by being defeated in November. Karma.

  19. 88 globalcitizenlinda
    September 16, 2012 at 9:46 am


    Since you are often in Nairobi, if you ever consider prospects in Uganda, please get in touch. I know people who know people at home …..

    with our mutual admiration and support of PBO, I suspect that our values overlap and can be put to good use … somehow, someday

  20. 91 squarepeg
    September 16, 2012 at 9:49 am

    Good morning. Just wanted to say F***K SNL – they totally turned on Obama and tried to make him look as bad as Romney. I’m done with tv, man.

    • 92 Dudette
      September 16, 2012 at 9:50 am

      What? No way. Seriously?

      • 93 squarepeg
        September 16, 2012 at 10:26 am

        Yeah they told all kinds of bad jokes about him

        • 94 dotster3
          September 16, 2012 at 10:50 am

          It was demeaning. The new Obama, in white face, (is that funny?) said everything is bad—-made it sound like he was a disappointment in every area—all his fault, again—- but Romney is a dork. That was sortof the message. Conservative writers still there at SNL, I guess. Obama can sing “Let’s Stay Together” (“so that’s cool”, they allowed) while Romney is singing “Old McDonald Had a Farm”. It was a “both sides bad” message but Obama more personally appealing. It was dumb.

    • 95 Debz
      September 16, 2012 at 11:11 am

      Agreed, it was awful. With everything that has happened this summer, you would think they could come up with something funny. They way PBO was portrayed was awful and the “ad” mocking people who lost their jobs because of Bain was disgraceful. Also, the guy playing Obama needs to spend more time listening to him speak, his performance was awful too.

    • 96 pugeretto
      September 16, 2012 at 11:21 am

      Squarepeg – thanks for the heads-up o SNL, cuz now I don’t have to watch..will delete recording. Happy Sunday all!!!

  21. 97 Dudette
    September 16, 2012 at 9:49 am

  22. 99 criquet
    September 16, 2012 at 9:51 am

    • 100 Melissa
      September 16, 2012 at 9:58 am

      GOP are craven opportunists when it suits them. ‘Member ” we all have to support the President in time of national tragedy ” meme during Bush’s fuck ups? Yet now, its okay to call in a press conference WHILE our foreign Corp is under siege in 17 other countries!! Good thing that the press woke up ( albeit for a second) and it backfired on Mittens.

  23. 101 lisalovesobama
    September 16, 2012 at 9:52 am

    HOLY CRAPOLA!!!!! That Turd Blossom was on everybody’s favorite Pig-In-Lipstick’s show this morning! And he basically talked down to her and compared Timothy McVeigh to the situation in Iran. That piece of crap! Seriously! What a creep!!

    “Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu stressed that the purpose of Iran’s nuclear program is to build a nuclear bomb rather than use enriched uranium for other purposes by comparing Iran to Timothy McVeigh on CNN’s “State of the Union” Sunday. 

    “There are legitimate, peaceful purposes for enriching this uranium,” said host Candy Crowley, speaking to why Iran’s activities are allowed under international agreements. 

    “You think so? You think so, Candy?” Netanyahu said. “That’s like Timothy McVeigh walking into a shop in Oklahoma City and saying, ‘I’d like to tend my garden. I’d like to buy some fertilizer.’ ‘How much do you want?’ ‘O, I don’ know, 20,000 pounds.’ Come on, we know that they’re working toward a weapon.”


    • 102 prettyfoot58
      September 16, 2012 at 1:52 pm


      how can a head of state from another country come here and talk sh** about our President and to our people/has this happened with any other head of state/

      • 103 nathkatun7
        September 16, 2012 at 5:33 pm

        Never happened before that I can remember. This is totally disgusting! I put the blame on the corporate media for giving him a platform to do this.

  24. 104 Ladyhawke
    September 16, 2012 at 9:53 am

    Inside the strange Hollywood scam that spread chaos across the Middle East

    A group of rightwing extremists aimed to destabilize post-Mubarak Egypt and roil US politicians. They got their wish

    By Max Blumenthal (The Guardian)


    Produced and promoted by a strange collection of rightwing Christian evangelicals and exiled Egyptian Copts, the trailer was created with the intention of both destabilizing post-Mubarak Egypt and roiling the US presidential election. As a consultant for the film named Steve Klein said: “We went into this knowing this was probably going to happen.”
    For far-right Christian right activists like Klein, the attacks on American interests abroad seemed likely to advance their ambitions back in the US. With Americans confronted with shocking images of violent Muslims in Egypt and Libya on the evening news, their already negative attitudes toward their Muslim neighbors were likely to harden. In turn, the presidential candidates, Obama and Romney, would be forced to compete for who could take the hardest line against Islamic “terror”.

    A patrician moderate constantly on the defensive against his own right flank, Romney fell for the bait, baselessly accusing Obama of “sympathiz[ing] with those who waged the attacks” and of issuing “an apology for America’s values”. The clumsy broadside backfired in dramatic fashion, opening Romney to strident criticism from across the spectrum, including from embarrassed Republican members of Congress. Obama wasted no time in authorizing a round of drone strikes on targets across Libya, which are likely to deepen regional hostility to the US.

    A group of fringe extremists had proven that with a little bit of money and an unbelievably cynical scam, they could shape history to fit their apocalyptic vision. But in the end, they were not immune to the violence they incited.


    Read the entire chilling article here……


    • 105 hopefruit2
      September 16, 2012 at 9:59 am

      “They got their wish”

      I’m not so sure about that.

      • 106 dotster3
        September 16, 2012 at 10:57 am

        They got their wish in causing chaos and renewed attention on terrorism. Why is no one in the MSM telling this tale of origin?

        • 107 hopefruit2
          September 16, 2012 at 11:01 am

          Their goal wasn’t to simply cause chaos. Their goals were (1) to erode PBO’s momentum going into the election, (2) help Mitt Romney and (3) push another US war in the middle east. I have no evidence that any of those goals were, or will be achieved.

    • 108 57andfemale
      September 16, 2012 at 10:16 am

      Of course this article is accurate. however, I have friends who are Coptic Christians, American citizens for 40 years. Theystill have family in Egypt. My friends, to whom America has been very good, have put a great deal of effort and money into human rights all over the world, and helping the Coptic Christians. I just don’t want those of us on the liberal side thinking all Coptic Christians are extremists.

    • 109 Theo67
      September 16, 2012 at 4:50 pm

      Except – President Obama didn’t order a “round of drone strikes”. He used drones to do surveillance in the area.

  25. 110 hopefruit2
    September 16, 2012 at 10:03 am

    American Jews (and everyone else) can see right thru Bibi’s BS.


    Kinda like Blacks seeing right thru Cornel and Tavis….

  26. 111 hopefruit2
    September 16, 2012 at 10:09 am

    • September 16, 2012 at 10:11 am

      She’s destroying David Gregory!

    • September 16, 2012 at 10:24 am

      Thank God for Susan Rice, another very talented Female Democrat.

    • September 16, 2012 at 10:26 am

      Thrilled to hear she’s stomping his pious attitude. She’s a great representative of PBO’s admin.

      • 118 hopefruit2
        September 16, 2012 at 10:38 am

        My respect for her increased exponentially after I saw her on the Rachel Maddow show sometime late 2009/early 2010. During that segment, smart-arse Rachel tried every which way to trap Rice into a “gotcha” situation on PBO’s decision to expand the War in Afghanistan, and Rice remained focused, calm, and gave sound substantive explanations, making “but..but..but” Rachel look very petty and juvenile by the end of the segment.

        I would say that Rice is one of the most understated and under-estimated members of PBO’s foreign policy team. You try to mess with her on Cable TV, and she crushes you.

        • 120 57andfemale
          September 16, 2012 at 10:47 am

          I’ve loved her since the beginning of the 2008 campaign. She is a serious, articulate representative of the US and this administration.

        • September 16, 2012 at 10:52 am

          Thanks for filling me in on this. Like 57andfemale, I’ve loved her since the early days of PBO’s first campaign when she presented at foreign policy forums by his side along with Samantha Power. She’s brilliant and I love that she is in this very important position. She does not suffer fools!

          • September 16, 2012 at 11:56 am

            Well now, I want to say right here that I’m making myself familiar with Susan Rice and will also find Samantha Power in just a moment. And it’s through TOD that I have access to this way of expanding my view of the what’s so. I am just so grateful . . .for this flow of information and for these fabulous younger people and shall I say ~women~ being brilliant in these critical positions. Love.it. Morning, everybody. xoxo

            • 123 HZ
              September 16, 2012 at 5:48 pm

              Susan Rice is a very fine young women, first of all. I can remember through some dear personal friends of her parents, that their daughter, Susan would one day be a very well known and important young mind on the world stage.

              She is a brilliant scholar. She is also a Rhodes Scholar. Her love for many things in life affords her to take on anyone in with her background. She is a very loyal person to POB in serving as the UN Amb., and she will take on anyone who wishes to diminish him in anyway. Plus she and POB have a love for basketball. They think alike. I recall (from personal friends) Susan was a point guard and she would not let up on anyone in the game of basketball.

              She represents this Administration in a brilliant, precise, and bold manner. She and Samantha Power are very brillian thinks of our times. Also, Ron Brown, was one of her first and most loyal mentors. She has some very proud, brilliant mentors under her belt. Her mother and father gave her much to always be ready for ‘the call.’ She answered that call by serving during President Clinton’s Administration and did it with calmness, brilliance, and grace. Susan Rice is not one to mess around with in any forum. She is well respected in her field, and those who see her as less are foolish.HZ

  27. 125 hopefruit2
    September 16, 2012 at 10:16 am

    I’m happy to see that both Susan Rice AND Christianne Armanpour have basically put Tapper in his place with his attempts to push false GOP talking points and controversy about the Arab Spring being a failure, etc,

  28. 126 utaustinliberal
    September 16, 2012 at 10:19 am

    Amb. Susan Rice is kicking ass on This Week and Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace. Jake Tapper was such an ass but she was awesome. He kept saying the Middle East hates us more now under Pres. Obama than they did four years ago (under George Bush). She gave him this dirty look and before he even finished his erroneous statement, she cut him off and dominated the conversation. He kept trying to interrupt and continue on this tangent of the Middle East hating us (stupidly painting the whole Middle East with a broad brush) but she didn’t even listen to him or stop to take a breath so that he could jump in with wrong facts. Finally, he stopped talking and just shut up. LOL.

  29. 136 criquet
    September 16, 2012 at 10:21 am

  30. 139 Carolyn
    September 16, 2012 at 10:25 am

    Really enjoying everyone’s summaries of the Sunday news programs.
    On another topic…..Recently I read that Facebook was responsible for the Republican get out the vote in 2010…that the friends got each other to the polls. Then, today, I read in our paper, The Daily Oklahoman, that on Faceboo,, the RR convention/ticket has received far more “likes” than the DNC. Can anyone who is more in tune with social media than I explain this? Do Republicans gravitate to Facebook, while progressives gravitate to other avenues? Facebook spreads everywhere, I know, and this info….or disinformation somewhat disturbed me this morning. Any explanations? Thanks.

    • 140 hopefruit2
      September 16, 2012 at 10:45 am

      The midterms are not the Presidential election; the demographics of voters are very different and at this time in 2010, it was already quite obvious that the GOP was poised to take back the house.

      Furthermore, I would take any anecdotes about the # of “likes” on FB RNC vs DNC from an Oklahoma Newspaper with a grain of salt. Facebook is not what it used to be. It’s being taken over largely by the corporate media and is another GOP propaganda machine. Democrats have moved on to other avenues for spreading information and getting voters to the polls. Facebook is not it and will soon be going the way of Myspace.

  31. September 16, 2012 at 10:30 am

    You can should Tweet Susan Rice some Love, apparently, everybody(including my Mom), said she is fantastic.
    That is all.

  32. September 16, 2012 at 10:37 am

    It’s awful that our US Ambassador has to go on Tv and fight like Hell, with our Journalists.
    The Journalists need propaganda to be effective, they do not like the truth.
    Which is why Dr. Rice had to fight like the Devil, to hey Her point across, to which She did beautifully.
    Well done Ambassador Rice, well done!

  33. 143 criquet
    September 16, 2012 at 10:38 am

  34. September 16, 2012 at 10:55 am

  35. 155 lisalovesobama
    September 16, 2012 at 10:56 am

    something is seriously wrong with George Will. Maybe it’s something in the water? He’s totally not acting like the typical repuke. WTH?! He’s totally screwing with my head:

    “Conservative columnist George Will dismissed the Romney campaign’s suggestion that if the Republican nominee were president the recent violence in Libya that left four Americans dead would not have happened.

    Asked on ABC’s “This Week” if there’s reason to believe that the situation would be different under a President Romney, Will said, “No.”

    “The great superstition of American politics concerns presidential power, and during a presidential year that reaches an apigy — and it becomes national narcissism,” he said. “Everything that happens anywhere in the world, we cause, or we could cure with … presidential rhetoric.”

    Will also chided White House spokesman Jay Carney for pinpointing the anti-Muslim film as the cause of the violence: “If the video hadn’t been the pretext, another one would’ve been found.”


    • 156 amk for obama
      September 16, 2012 at 11:11 am

      “If the video hadn’t been the pretext, another one would’ve been found.”

      Why is the willie boy so sure ? Did the rethugs have a plan B to incite the mob there?

      I have been seeing this guy and his redenculous bow tie since 1983 when I was studying there ? Haven’t they found a replacement for this troglodyte in all these years ?

      • 157 pugeretto
        September 16, 2012 at 11:16 am

        No kidding AMK, he’s been around forever. (Just getting over my morning JOLT – will retweet when totallyrecovered)

      • 158 enekra
        September 16, 2012 at 3:42 pm

        I happen to agree with George WIll on this one. Whatever the forces or circumstances went into dubbing over the words, the film was used to rile up a varied number of groups in the society. It was planned to coincide with 9/11 AND made more poignant in an election year. None of the terror groups and many civillians like the drone strikes. They were planning and waiting for a good opening to ignite whatever sparks that exist in a country during transition.

    • 160 nathkatun7
      September 16, 2012 at 6:05 pm

      ““If the video hadn’t been the pretext, another one would’ve been found.”

      This, in my humble opinion, is a very silly argument. It’s like telling a person with high fever because of the flu that if it hadn’t been for the flu he/she might have had a fever from another source. Will does two things here: he dismisses the inflammatory cause of the current violent eruptions; and, he implies that people in the Middle East are always looking for any excuse to be violent.

  36. 161 lisalovesobama
    September 16, 2012 at 10:58 am

    Again, seriously, George?

    “Conservative columnist George Will said Sunday on ABC’s “This Week” roundtable that it’s unfair to accuse President Obama of turning his back on Israel.

    “I really do not think it’s fair to fault the president for ‘throwing Israel under the bus,’ as they say,” Will said. “Granted, he has a bad relationship with my good friend [Prime Minister Benjamin] Netanyahu, but the relationships between the U.S. military and the Israeli military, which is 98 percent of the point of this relationship, are quite good.”


    • 162 utaustinliberal
      September 16, 2012 at 11:09 am

      It was very weird. He’s still voting for Romney but it’s clear he’s doing it with reluctantly. I still don’t trust his motives but it was hilarious to see him against Romney and criticizing Romney over and over and over again.

  37. 164 utaustinliberal
    September 16, 2012 at 11:00 am

    Jake Tapper says he doesn’t vote because he wants to remain “impartial” while covering Pres. Obama and Romney. I tweeted him that he had failed in that endeavor because he’s a GOP shill.

    Can you imagine that disgusting crap. You have that awesome right of voting and yet you choose not to exercise it? People died for the right to vote. He’s such a douche nozzle.

    • 165 hopefruit2
      September 16, 2012 at 11:03 am

      Assuming that he’s telling the truth (and I have my personal doubts), not voting ultimately helps Republicans, and Tapper knows that.

    • September 16, 2012 at 11:11 am

      WTH does the privacy of a personal vote have to do with anything whatsoever? As if he hasn’t fully formed and EXPRESSED an opinion about both candidates. What an idiot!

      • 167 Obama Grandmama
        September 16, 2012 at 2:08 pm

        When I taught fifth grade I taught government and our class would vote in presidential years in a highly orchestrated classroom experience. I NEVER divulged a preference for political parties to my students inorder to keep their research and decisions unbiased. I did however VOTE myself. Voting is secret and there is no need to avoid participation.

    • 168 amk for obama
      September 16, 2012 at 11:13 am

      Didn’t the liburl eqvt olbermaan say the same thing ?

    • September 16, 2012 at 12:23 pm

    • 172 nathkatun7
      September 16, 2012 at 6:20 pm

      Some of these people in the media think we are all idiots. Just because Jake Tapper doesn’t vote doesn’t mean that he is impartial. The only way for the viewer/reader to asses his impartiality is to examine the way he covers the candidates, both in his writings and his t.v. appearances. it seems to me that he is trying to cover his blatant partiality by claiming that he does not vote.

  38. September 16, 2012 at 11:09 am

    Hey, TODville, send some love to Julian Castro!

  39. 174 utaustinliberal
    September 16, 2012 at 11:15 am

    Amb. Susan Rice is top notch. David Gregory is still feeling the effects of her foot up his ass. She’s polite but with a look and her words she shuts down BS.

  40. 178 Dudette
    September 16, 2012 at 11:33 am

    • 179 squarepeg
      September 16, 2012 at 11:44 am

      and tea partiers, don’t forget tea partiers.

    • 180 Nena20409
      September 16, 2012 at 11:45 am

      Romney did say so in a debate during the primary. That he would turn to Bibi Netanyhu and ask him what he should do and what he needed. He said the say about the military. Romney is led. A follower. He has No core. Even Dan Senor controls what comes out of Romney’s mouth.

      Good job Dudette.

  41. 181 utaustinliberal
    September 16, 2012 at 11:45 am

    Liz Cheney is a dumbass.

  42. 184 hopefruit2
    September 16, 2012 at 11:47 am

    Good. Let’s see if Warren’s lead in MA holds up and PBO is poised for a win in VA 🙂

  43. 188 amk for obama
    September 16, 2012 at 11:57 am

  44. 189 desertflower
    September 16, 2012 at 12:25 pm

    WTF! http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/09/16/855991/peter-king-iraq-withdrawal-embassy-attacks/

    Republican Congressman Says Iraq Withdrawal Brought On Embassy Attacks

    Perpetual war is all they want…and if they don’t have war, they will make things up to get one….POS. Every last one.

  45. September 16, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    • 191 Nena20409
      September 16, 2012 at 12:54 pm

      DG also called Netanyahu the leader of the Jews or some crap per TMP. Then DG went on the twitter machine to correct himself. To Netanyahu being the Leader of the Jewish state to PM of Israel. NBC needs to fire this dumb DG.

  46. 192 donna dem 4 obama
    September 16, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    Happy Sunday TOD!


    FLOTUS on the season premier for the Rachel Ray Show. Check your local listings for the time.


  47. September 16, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    Sweet holy schadenfreude, David Gregory stepped in it today. This from Josh Marshall will start you off:

    “On Meet the Press this morning David Gregory referred to Benjamin Netanyahu as “Leaders of the Jews” and in his role as ‘leader of the Jewish People” asked for his verdict on President Obama. “You are the leader of the Jewish people,” Gregory told Netanyahu.”


    And then Gregory starts the backtrack:


  48. 197 vcprezofan2
    September 16, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    Okay, now surfacing to say ‘Good Sunday Afternoon, TODville!’ Got the chores out of the way first today. ;lol: Sure hope no one drops in unannounced to visit today like they did last Sunday. 🙄

    How is TODville? Any MAJOR + / – changes I need to know about?

  49. September 16, 2012 at 12:36 pm

  50. 235 desertflower
    September 16, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    Good piece I happen to agree with…http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/16/1132065/-Why-Obama-s-lead-is-even-better-news-than-you-think

    I have always thought that PBO had a MUCH bigger plan in mind than just running for re election. He wanted the American people to be able to see behind the curtain, to expose the inner workings of the RWNJ’s…little by little, piece by piece…this is being done. People vote with their hearts and their wallets.Things ARE getting better, be it slowly…but they are beginning to see who had been at fault for this….beginning to see they have been lied to, and used to move an agenda that doesn’t favor them and their families. THIS is what change looks like!

    • 236 hopefruit2
      September 16, 2012 at 12:50 pm

      I agree! An informed electorate is essential to an effective democracy and progress for the country.

      • 237 Nena20409
        September 16, 2012 at 12:59 pm

        I agree with you 1001%. Unless one is from the South of from MO..the so called the Show Me State. Where no matter what this president does, they discount his efforts and they double down for the TBGOPers. But eventually, they will change for No condition is ever so Permanent.

      • 239 amk for obama
        September 16, 2012 at 1:05 pm

        You know what they say is the worst about democracy ? Its voters. 🙂

        Look at spain, uk and greece. These morons voted in rw’ers and are now fuming. Yeah, you get the gobinment you voted for assholes.

    • September 16, 2012 at 1:20 pm

      Wow, sounds like a little piece I wrote for TPV this week. Nice to see I’m not the only one with this analysis.

  51. September 16, 2012 at 12:45 pm

  52. 242 squarepeg
    September 16, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    • 243 amk for obama
      September 16, 2012 at 12:52 pm

      Very good read. Don’t know much of this goldberg guy but that was spot on.

    • 244 desertflower
      September 16, 2012 at 12:57 pm

      Excellent read. Short and to the point.

    • 245 Nena20409
      September 16, 2012 at 1:09 pm

      So North Korea and Pakistan going and becoming Nuclear did destroy GW Bush and Clinton terms respectively….but some how, should Iran GO Nuclear will destroy pres Obama’s presidency? Why? That is so over the top. Iran was enriching and furthering their Nuclear capabilities before pres Obama was sworn in.

    • 247 Theo67
      September 16, 2012 at 5:39 pm

      I had a slightly different take on this article. To me, it sounded like he was trying to box the President into a corner. Like he was trying some sort of reverse psychology – to limit the President’s options. I kind of felt like the author himself doesn’t understand the President – he dorsn’t respond to people like this, and he has. Even reading Netanyahu for a long time. He’s not going to be bullied into a reaction – especially if it endangers the lives of the young men and women in the military. Netanyahu and his GOP cohorts like McCain and Romney don’t place much value on those young lives, but the President does – he honors them.

    • 249 Nena20409
      September 16, 2012 at 1:13 pm

      So he has been selling this crap for 20 yrs. I bet DG or Candy Crowley and whoever else today, didn’t dare to ask Netanyahu why in 20yrs, his bull pucky is still being televised unchallenged?

  53. 250 amk for obama
    September 16, 2012 at 1:01 pm

  54. 251 Nena20409
    September 16, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    Two people I truly can Not stand today.

    David Gregory and Netanyahu.

  55. 252 Rita
    September 16, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    Oh. My. God. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/06/mormons-baptized-obamas-m_n_197707.html

    “ABC News has confirmed reports that Mormons posthumously baptized President Obama’s mother five months before the election.

    The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints confirmed Tuesday afternoon that someone improperly, posthumously baptized the late mother of President Obama into the Mormon faith.”

    • 263 susanne
      September 16, 2012 at 5:08 pm

      great video clip at the end of this article–love seeing nancy pelosi laying it out so clearly! ‘obstruction is the republican agenda’–we’ll continue to see logjams if the congress is not favorable to the president. oh, and ‘mitt romney won’t be president; everybody knows that’ !!

  56. 264 desertflower
    September 16, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021355764 Yeah…they’re FINALLY getting a clue!

    Just came home from church and we are furious!

    We belong to a Catholic parish in a retirement community in Florida. While my husband was driving home, I read the church bulletin. An article in the bulletin started out beautifully but then became disgustingly political. The article said that because so many young people fell for the Hope and Change in 2008, in reality it was “Hype and Lies.” You tasted “socialism” and have seen evil face to face. The article also called the 2008 election the “Great Lie.”

    I plan to write to the priest and tell him why we are leaving the church. Politics have no place in church whether it be from the pulpit or the bulletin. If the church, any church, wants to be political, then they should give up their tax exempt status.

    I couldn’t help but think that if the church is so against socialism, then the parishioners shouldn’t be driving to Mass on the socialist roads. Also, because it is a retirement community, most of the people are on SS and Medicare. On Monday I plan to go to the local Obama campaign office and volunteer my services, something I should have done before now.

    • 265 anniebella
      September 16, 2012 at 1:51 pm

      So this Catholic parish must have no problem with Mitt Romney lies, or their attack on the poor and middle class.

      • 266 desertflower
        September 16, 2012 at 2:14 pm

        I suspect not….amazing what they push when they have an agenda.

        • 267 carla4obama
          September 16, 2012 at 2:26 pm

          I left the Catholic Church about 15 years ago (I’m 57). Though my parents and some of my sibs are still Catholic church goers.
          After the initial guilt/anger/sadness…well it feels so free.

  57. 268 Rita
    September 16, 2012 at 1:28 pm

  58. 269 Tally
    September 16, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    Let’s go peeps – another GOP # to hijack!!! SQUEEEEEEE!!!

  59. September 16, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    What a pisser. I hit my Twitter follow limit. Freaking stupid rule.

  60. 295 Tally
    September 16, 2012 at 1:36 pm

    Or go here https://twitter.com/bardgal scroll down to about 9hrs ago and retweet everything… 😀 😀 😀

  61. 296 Ladyhawke
    September 16, 2012 at 1:38 pm



    ABC’s Jake Tapper Gets Busted Pushing Bogus Republican Libya Talking Points

    By: Jason Easley


    What Jake Tapper did was a prototypical Fox News style interview. He took partisan talking points and used them as the foundation for his questions. That’s how conservative media bias works. When Republican talking points are converted into facts, and the media asks loaded partisan questions, they are infecting the viewers with a built in partisan bias.

    As the Romney campaign slips into a death spiral, Jake Tapper’s other motivation was to help Mitt Romney. It is no secret that mainstream media desperately wants to ignore the mounting evidence of the likely November result, and keep this election as close as possible. There are still billions of dollars in political ads and ratings derived revenue out there. The corporate media’s mission is to try to keep the American people interested in what could become a one sided election for as long as possible.

    Jake Tapper’s questions were loaded with the word “seems.” He wasn’t asking anything based on fact. He echoing the Republican mantra that feelings trump facts. Questions based on Jake Tapper’s feelings belong on Fox News style propaganda outlet, not on a supposedly neutral Sunday morning public affairs program.



  62. September 16, 2012 at 1:43 pm

    Continuing to ‘paint’ #BainMitt (etc) all over other candidates ….

    … more in my TL …


  63. 308 Ladyhawke
    September 16, 2012 at 1:54 pm


    By Mortos – (July 15, 2012)


    I support him because he has faced this unrelenting bitterness and undeserved hate with grace and honor, compassion and humility. His speeches still have the power to inspire and move me like no other politician in my lifetime. He renews my sense of pride in our country. I don’t wince when he speaks to foreign leaders, I am instead filled with admiration and proudly say, “That’s my president.” He engages his opponents with tact, respect and facts. His is not a world of “with us or against us” rather a world of optimism and hope that we can work together through our differences to make this country better.

    I support him because he has aged 10 years in 3 because the job he faces every day has pressures and stress that the we will never come close to comprehending.

    I support him because he truly connects with people. You can see it in the crowds that gather to watch him speak and even in the faces of infants thrust into his arms. He comes from an imperfect but loving family, not unfamiliar to many, but in spite of the circumstances of his life (or maybe because of them), he went much farther than could possibly be imagined; a bi-racial child born in the sixties and raised by a single mom and his grandparents. A boy who struggled to fit in because of his racial and geographical diversity. A young man who beat the odds and attended one of the best universities this country has and became an intellectual leader under its tutelage. A man who chose service over monetary success and then beat the odds again by becoming a state, then United States Senator, then President.


    Read the entire moving and beautiful post here…..


  64. 309 vitaminlover
    September 16, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    Am watching ‘Koch Brothers Exposed’. Now what the heck? This is pure evil. I don’t have a problem with people having or getting wealth but not like this.

  65. 310 amk for obama
    September 16, 2012 at 2:04 pm

    Ok folks, sorry for all the ‘trolling’ today.

    Chips made me do it. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  66. September 16, 2012 at 2:19 pm

  67. 316 Rita
    September 16, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    One of the most important reason to vote blue: “Four Supreme Court justices are in their 70s and the possibility that the next president may nominate their successors should be a significant issue in this year’s campaign. With the court so evenly divided along partisan lines, the president who gets to replace a justice from the opposite side could determine the future of the court for decades to come. So Mitt Romney’s choice of Robert Bork as a chairman of his Judicial Advisory Committee earlier this year raised more than a few eyebrows. In an editorial, The New York Times has called Bork one of “the most divisive figures in American law” and his role in Romney’s campaign as “disturbing.”

    Romney’s Divisive Judicial Advisor: Robert Bork – http://billmoyers.com/content/romneys-divisive-judicial-advisor-robert-bork/

  68. 318 desertflower
    September 16, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    Chips…there is a great video here, but I can’t get to it! Top 5 Reasons Romney Won’t Release His Tax Returns….can you find it and post? Thank you, sweetness….


  69. 326 smoothscotch
    September 16, 2012 at 2:29 pm

    Good afternoon all. Trying to contain my rage at Gregory, WTF IS WRONG WITH HIM ON MEET THE BEAST?

    Amb Rice comment about vacuos commentary could have been directed to him and i HOPE he took it as such personally.

    Nut man refused to be drawn in even tho that IDIOT tried and he called him on trying.


    • 328 amk for obama
      September 16, 2012 at 2:33 pm

      money quote jovie.

      I’m pretty certain that, in the end, it will help the President’s re-election effort.

      shitheads are gonna be shitheads. Relaaaax.

    • 329 desertflower
      September 16, 2012 at 2:37 pm

      How low can they go? First, it’s Halerin. Second, it’s the NY Post…rag with lots of pics for people that can’t read all the big words, Murdock paper…you expected Pulitzer material? Third, more reason to know that Halperin is a hack and not a journalist. If he were a REAL journalist, this POS garbage would NEVER have been brought up and it would be disregarded as the junk it is…..clearly he is not a credible journalist. This says more about HIM than anything else. Moron.

  70. 330 desertflower
    September 16, 2012 at 2:31 pm

    I think I broke my toes….hurts like a &)&(*&^%%$ Black and blue. Swelled up. Hurts. Stubbed my foot on the ottoman. Damn ottoman. Damn foot. Damn phone call. I think I need a picture of PBO blowing me kisses or something….that should make me feel better:)

  71. 347 donna dem 4 obama
    September 16, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    Chips can we get a new Chat Away? This one is getting hard to navigate.

  72. 353 lamh35
    September 16, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    Bonus Quote of the Day

    “No one in Boston thinks this can only be about the economy anymore.”
    — A Romney campaign adviser, quoted by BuzzFeed.

    I hate to link to Halperin, but right after I read Taeggard’s post above, I just happened over to Halperin’s page and read this:

    Coming Attractions

    This full-page ad running in Sunday’s New York Post contains the charge that the President’s father was actually Frank Marshall Davis.
    As Election Day gets closer, there is going to be more of this kind of stuff in direct mail, TV, radio, emails, web ads, and print.
    I’m pretty certain that, in the end, it will help the President’s re-election effort.

    It’s about to get real ugly ya’ll, so be forewarned and let’s stay diligent!
    Go check the picture of the ad over at Halperin’s page if u want.

  73. 354 cookemom
    September 16, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    Goooood Daaaaay all you O’s!!!!!! A great getting up beginning of the week day in TODdie town. Mitt Rmoney cancels his Pueblo Colo campaign event due to a deadly experimental airplane crash. This cancellation is to prevent any runway interference at the airport as personnel investigate the accident. Mitt moves on to his next stop.

    My political take today is to share Elizabeth Warren’s campaign’s political view:
    “A new poll out today from the Springfield Republican shows Elizabeth with a 50-44 lead over Scott Brown among likely voters.
    This is good news – it shows that your help is paying off. We clearly have momentum, but we’re not taking anything for granted. Two more polls should be coming out this week before the first debate on Thursday, and we know they could swing either direction. No matter what the polls say over the next 51 days, we’re going to keep fighting every day like we’re 10-points down.”

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