Hey, a media person doing their job!


Andrew Sullivan: …. there weren’t just lies; there was a total abdication of personal responsibility in an attack on President Obama’s alleged lack of responsibility. Ryan on Bowles-Simpson, which he killed…

….When a Randian is speaking of a priority for the poor and weak, you know you have a world-class bullshitter.

Full post here


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158 Responses to “Hey, a media person doing their job!”

  1. 1 cindysweatt
    August 30, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    Could I be first?

  2. 3 cindysweatt
    August 30, 2012 at 2:31 pm

    I am at work so I can’t watch the video. I am planning my evening–going out canvasing again. Let’s get this done!

  3. 5 vcprezofan2
    August 30, 2012 at 2:33 pm

    What? Media doing job? Who? This I’ve got to see.

  4. 6 Ladyhawke
    August 30, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    The sheer magnitude of GOP and Romney lies forces media to react


    As Steve Benen and James Fallows keep arguing, this poses a test for the news media. What would happen if a nontrivial number of articles and broadcasts about the welfare lie and other Romney falsehoods called out his dishonesty right in their headlines, prominently featuring unequivocal declarations (not mealy-mouthed he-said-she-said nonsense) that Romney is misleading people and has done so again and again and again, despite knowing the truth?

    Mark Kleiman suggests that horserace reporters begin clearly spelling out that Romney has “made a strategic decision to try to bury Obama under a blanket of false charges.” Would that be an exaggeration? No, it wouldn’t. What if newspapers devoted extensive front page pieces to dissecting Romney’s decision to continue basing entire ad campaigns on widely debunked claims, even as Romney advisers openly boast about the success of their dishonest ads and openly declare that they won’t be constrained by fact-checking?



  5. 8 amk for obama
    August 30, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    I am betting the sun will rise in the west tomorrow. You heathen west coasters have been warned.

  6. 14 Ladyhawke
    August 30, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    He Didn’t Say It: The RNC’s Bogus Theme

    Posted on 08/29/2012 by Peter Hart


  7. 15 whatisworking
    August 30, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    In case this has not been posted

    Eric Holder ‘Pleased’ Court Blocked ‘Discriminatory’ Texas Voter ID Law


      • 17 HZ
        August 30, 2012 at 6:39 pm

        Our AG and the DOJ are working hard still. Please continue to support our DOJ and know that they have and still are doing great work to be the conscience of POB and the attorney for the people of our nation.HZ

  8. 18 tally
    August 30, 2012 at 2:43 pm

  9. 21 donna dem 4 obama
    August 30, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    It will be interesting to see how ABC, NBC and CBS covers Lyan Ryan’s speech tonight on the evening news. In reality this is the news medium that really has an impact on the public and reaches several million viewers.

    I’ve got to phone bank tongith so can someone check in this evening and let us know later tonight how this is being reported please?

    I’m still on the hunt for one $3.00 donation today to keep the Fundraising Streak alive.


  10. August 30, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    Who is his tailor? It’s like a 5 yo trying on his dad’s suit.

    On another note…
    My CEO stopped by my office to “discuss” the convention. With glee he informed me that Ryan WILL be a “very good” VP, I looked him in the eye and with a smile, I politely asked him to share whatever he has been smoking! Are you kidding me????

    These 1 percenters crack me up! Let’s just say that after I was done, he was not that gleeful!

  11. 23 anniebella
    August 30, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    So according to Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan and the Republicans, the truth does not matter. America,wake up. You can not trust liars. And the big question is, why do Romney and Ryan feel they have to run a campaign of lies? If the race is so close as the polls say so, why lie? Makes you wonder don’t it.

  12. August 30, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    Yes We Did Build It

    • 26 edwina3
      August 30, 2012 at 2:54 pm

      Bobfr, I heard it was your birthday, much happiness to you and thank you for all that you do to get the truth out there into the sunlight.

      • August 30, 2012 at 3:09 pm

        Thank you Edwina! It was a few days ago, but always appreciate the kind greetings!

        • 28 taiping1
          August 30, 2012 at 3:41 pm

          I’ve come out of my lurking in Nice (on vacation) to wish you a Happy 65th, welcome to Medicare, and much gratitude for your indefatigable tweeting. Blessings for a new year and second Obama term!

          • August 30, 2012 at 4:55 pm

            Hi Bobfr,

            I want to add my congratulations to you upon you reaching 65 years!

            And, I, too, welcome you to Medicare. I have been enrolled for about a year. My thanks go out over the years to President Johnson. Not only did he sign civil rights and voting rights into law, but he signed Medicare into law. Now we have another Democratic President, Barack Obama, who has signed the Affordable Care Act into law. When it is finally effective, it will help millions of Americans to have the basic right of good health. It will also provide stability to health care costs in our nation. I was one of many, many citizens who made over 8 milion telephone calls in support of enacting the health care reform law. I have receivied immediate benefits from the enactment of this law. I am retired. During my first year of retirement, my healthcare insurance premium was $289. Within three years, the premium was $450. I was frightened that I would not be able to have health insurance. After the law passed, my premiums started to drop. They are now around $350. But, the direction of the change in cost is what I am happy to report.

            Again, Happy Birthday, and welcome to Medicare.

        • 31 Pamela
          August 30, 2012 at 4:06 pm

          Bobfr!? How did I miss this? And how did you not invite me to your par-Tay? Belated best of the best wishes!

  13. August 30, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    • 33 amk for obama
      August 30, 2012 at 3:02 pm

      Whatever is the reason or the motive and however short-lived it will be, me likey the journalism that has come out today. May this miracle live on.

      • 34 HZ
        August 30, 2012 at 6:49 pm

        Yes, amk. So true. I do believe that with all of us being committed to constantly calling these journalists out, and staying with our commitment to fight for POB and VPBiden accomplishments. Twitter lit up throughout that circus last evening, and these journalists had to surrender, at least some of them.

        We will keep up the pressure. Thanks for all that you do here and on Twitter.HZ

  14. 35 Ladyhawke
    August 30, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    Five ways Paul Ryan’s GM attack was dishonest

    By James Downie


    Since this quote is getting a lot of attention, I just want to expand on what I wrote earlier and offer five reasons this was a blatant distortion.

    1. The timeline: As I wrote earlier, Ryan doesn’t mention that GM announced on June 3, 2008, that it would close the plant. Not only was Obama still more than six months from his inauguration, but he also only clinched the Democratic nomination that same day. The plant effectively shut down in December 2008, with a skeleton crew staying on until April 2009. As I said this morning, “there was no way Obama could have saved that auto plant without also discovering time travel.”

    2. The deceptive framing: Still, many conservatives have said Ryan’s argument is that Obama hasn’t improved the economy enough to bring the plant back. But if that Ryan’s defense, he clearly tried to imply to viewers that Obama was promising that the plant would stay open. He has been even more explicit about his meaning on the stump, saying in Ohio only two weeks ago, “I remember President Obama visiting it when he was first running, saying he’ll keep that plant open. One more broken promise.” Obama, of course, made no such promise, but Ryan would prefer voters didn’t think that.



  15. 36 57andfemale
    August 30, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    I’m re-posting this piece because it is vitally important. This is who Mitt Romney is and how he will fleece the government for personal gain and the gain of his cronies.


  16. 37 ChristiMTL
    August 30, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    Michael Moore: Mitt Romney Will Win In November

    ”Mitt Romney is going to raise more money than Barack Obama. That should guarantee his victory,” Moore told host Josh Zepps. “I think people should start to practice the words ‘President Romney.’

    He’s so full of it.

    When he was encouraging people to vote for Nader he said that Bush was not going to win.

    He was wrong then, he is wrong now.

    I don’t know what he’s trying to do but he should sthu.

    • 38 Marsha
      August 30, 2012 at 3:06 pm

      HELL No !!!!
      Please let us not let this nightmare happen. I can’t believe people have forgotten what happened 8 years ago.

    • 39 squarepeg
      August 30, 2012 at 3:08 pm

      I think Moore is rooting for Romney. I really do. EVERY hero needs a supervillain. Obama’s no fun for Moore. He needs a challenge.

    • August 30, 2012 at 3:09 pm

      He wants OWS to go crazy if Robney gets in, essentially, the President has the same message as OWS, so their message falls flat.
      But if Robney was POTUS…?
      Now the far left is rooting for the other side?
      Btw- Kerry outraised Bush in 04.

    • 43 EricFive
      August 30, 2012 at 3:22 pm

      His fat ass just wants some attention. I despise Michael Moore. He is the patron saint of all emoprogs. He is part of the “cut off your nose to spite your face” crowd that is all about symbolism and cathartic release instead of the hard job of governing and winning elections.

      • 44 Nena20409
        August 30, 2012 at 3:38 pm

        Not really. Moore is all for himself…..making documentaries….being the ONLY one who understands and wanting media attention. In 2004, Moore made more money than ever wit this 911 F movie and books. So Romney winning will get him back to relevancy. But he will be shocked again. Pres Obama will Win…..That is how it is.

      • 45 theo67
        August 30, 2012 at 6:27 pm

        Well said.

    • 46 FiredUpInCA
      August 30, 2012 at 4:07 pm

      Money isn’t everything.

      Ask Meg Whitman and Carly Fiorina. The both lost in my state when the unemployment rate was higher than the national average and we were in the middle of a tea party wave election.

      We are going to win the White House. It’s the House and the Senate that we need too.

  17. August 30, 2012 at 3:04 pm


  18. 48 squarepeg
    August 30, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    • 49 EricFive
      August 30, 2012 at 3:37 pm

      If PBO lied like Paul Ryan he would be impeached. Only republicans are allowed to lie, as Mitt/Ryan have proven for the past few months.

    • 51 0388jojothecat
      August 30, 2012 at 3:44 pm

      I am listening to Thom Hartmann who is playing on iheart radio 620 am KPOJ the Portland, OR progressive station at the same time as Randi Rhodes pacific time; They play Randi Rhodes 3PM to 6PM. Sometimes I get a double dose of Randi through internet radio.

  19. 52 dotster3
    August 30, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    GOP confirms to CNN their Big Mystery Guest is Eastwood. Not a big surprise and yawn. I can’t see that crusty old geez being an inspiring speaker, very dry in his delivery, and I wonder why he bothered at this point in his life. Wondering if he is overwhelmed by hate also, just like the rest of them. I’m so beyond disgusted with the whole lot of them, not a shred of integrity or decency left in ANY of these current Republicans.

    • August 30, 2012 at 3:21 pm

      My husband watches all Clint’s old movies (via the art of constant channel surfing) and complains about how raspy his voice has gotten and how crappy he is to listen to. That old actor is totally not my guess for fabulous mystery speaker. Yuck.

    • 54 EricFive
      August 30, 2012 at 3:31 pm

      Eastwood fits in with this “back to the future” GOP convention. He is Dirty Harry, the fed up white man who let his gun do the talking. His selection as guest speaker (along with the racism, homophobia and sexism that define today’s GOP) clearly illustrates how threatened the white American male feels at this time in history. This unabated hatred and anger stems from fear. Fear of losing one’s standing in society, economic insecurity and a general fear of the future (with those changing demographics). This fear is being exploited by the 1% to make these lost souls vote against there own economic interests.

      • 55 Nena20409
        August 30, 2012 at 3:41 pm

        Ryan is 42….same age as Romney’s 1st son. Romney is 65 yrs old. Last night was McCain at 76yrs old. Now Eastwood at what age? 70 plus or in his early 80s.



        I say the latter.

        • August 30, 2012 at 4:01 pm

          Sounds like they’ve given up on anyone under 50. Clint who? I was a young adult the last time he was culturally relevant.

          For a moment I was afraid that they actually convinced some icon to take a flying leap of their senses and endorse Romney.

        • 57 jackiegrumbacher
          August 30, 2012 at 4:38 pm

          Eastwood is 82–was born in 1930. So, yea, I’d say, they are really bringing out the creaky bones.

      • 58 Eleroy
        August 30, 2012 at 7:50 pm

        Clint Eastwood was not acting in Gran Torino!!!

    • 59 Obama Grandmama
      August 30, 2012 at 4:26 pm

      How disappointing! When I saw Clint in the Super Bowl Auto Industry is Back commercial I felt like he was totally supporting PBO and his part in the comeback. The whole ad sounded like they were being thankful to PBO and pointing it out. I did remember Eastwood was a mayor of Carmel but didn’t remember he was a GOP. Hope this does not turn lots of voters over to the GOP.

      • 60 jackiegrumbacher
        August 30, 2012 at 4:42 pm

        Don’t worry, OG, this stuff is a distraction, but it isn’t going to change anyone’s vote. Eastwood was PAID for those ads–I don’t think he thought anything more about it than to follow directions and read lines. He was a Republican mayor of Carmel and he’s been mostly a Libertarian leaning Gooper all of his life. I don’t think anybody is going to go into a voting booth and say, “I guess I’ll go against my own interest because of Clint Eastwood.” We got our big guy in PBO–that’s who people come to hear. He doesn’t need a celebrity to make him seem bigger.

    • August 30, 2012 at 4:27 pm

      And THANK GOODNESS it’s not Sarah! I was kind of afraid…

    • 64 jackiegrumbacher
      August 30, 2012 at 4:34 pm

      Eastwood is a rich old man. He’s got his, why should he care about anyone else? I’ll bet a lot of people in Hollywood are shaking their heads at this. Eastwood is allowing himself to be used by some pretty despicable people so that Romney can get viewers to tune in, because, God knows, who wants to listen to Willard drone on. Eastwood’s a decent director, but this lunacy will only make sane people think less of him, not more of Romney. I’d rather have George Clooney actively fundraising on PBO’s behalf than an old man dragged out of mothballs.

    • 66 Lovepolitics2008
      August 30, 2012 at 4:44 pm

      You have to give it to them, they know how to “politick”. It will give them big ratings for Romney’s speech. I hope it backfires.

      • 67 Lovepolitics2008
        August 30, 2012 at 4:49 pm

        Maybe democrats should respond with a LARGE group of celebrities on stage (Clooney, Hanks, Streisand, Martin Sheen, and on and on…) , with ALL of them going to the mike and saying why they endorse Pres Obama for a second term…

        Why not ?

        • 68 Nena20409
          August 30, 2012 at 5:49 pm

          Dems don’t need Hollywood Types to get ratings nor to make their points. Romney is still being propped up for He, the lying bishop, Can’t stand on his own. Think about it. They say he is self made, yet, Bain propped him and gauranteed the cash and job. His father saved him from ‘Nam. Ann said, Willard can’t function without her…..Ann said that.

          And now, he needs an 82 yrs old aging actor to prop the lying bishop up? 82 yrs old? If Romney can did up his father, George and prop him up he would. Remember in his Hdqtrs in Boston, a Huge photo of George is in the office and even in his Bus some months ago, George Romney’s picture is there. The man is truly weird.

  20. 69 donna dem 4 obama
    August 30, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    When I watch this video it reminds me that Romney/Ryan don’t care one iota that they are being called out for the lies. They know their base hates President Obama so they will vote in droves. This is all about trying to suppress our votes and moving some of those Independents to their side. They are counting on this being a 2 or 3 percent contest on election day in those battleground states. So if they can move 1 or 2 percent with lies they figure it’s worth it. This is a win at all cost election for them. They have no ethics, no core and they will do whatever they think will win them this election. Including (IMHO) selling their souls to the devil.

  21. August 30, 2012 at 3:15 pm

  22. 76 dotster3
    August 30, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    Arpaio goes from Repub Convention speaker to trial on civil rights and false arrest charges. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.

  23. 78 Ladyhawke
    August 30, 2012 at 3:18 pm

    Paul Ryan Bets on the Ignorance of America

    By Dan Amira


    Paul Ryan has a reputation as a nerdy budget wonk, but tonight in his RNC speech, he transformed into an attack dog. Running the gamut on the many, varied transgressions of President Obama — including the stimulus, the jobs crisis, ObamaCare, the debt, Medicare, and, obviously, “You didn’t built that” — Ryan had the crowd laughing, booing, and frequently showering him with piercingly loud standing ovations thanks to a slew of pitch-perfect applause lines. While this is just a hunch, we expect that his focus on Obama’s inability to adequately revive the economy probably hit home with a lot of moderate voters. In short, it was, without a doubt, the best, most effective speech of the convention.

    It was also appallingly disingenuous and shamelessly hypocritical. To name but a few examples that the official and unofficial fact-checkers will be picking over tonight:



    • 79 57andfemale
      August 30, 2012 at 3:24 pm

      I want our convention to be positive. But you know what — we need some outrage, too. We need to hit back hard. There is no time for politeness — it doesn’t work. We have to define Republicans for what they are. We need to motivate our base, too. AND PBO and the Dem’s actually have a positive direction to point to. We need the one-two punch. We just can’t be our usual polite selves, not while they’re piling on lie after lie. For good or ill, Americans like fighters.

      • 80 EricFive
        August 30, 2012 at 3:51 pm

        I trust Team PBO to put on a great convention. We have the truth on our side. We have better public speakers on our side (PBO, Biden, the First Lady. Bill Clinton etc). I am very happy that the Dem convention follows the GOP circus. Our message and optics will be fresher on voters minds and we will have momentum going into the election. As for the fighter stuff, nothing leads me to believe that PBO/Biden are not fighters. I expect Biden to embrace his attack dog role (he took it easy on Palin, but won’t be constrained taking on Mitt/Ryan).

  24. August 30, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    This is how the WH Press Corps inform the Public-


  25. 82 Tally
    August 30, 2012 at 3:20 pm

  26. 83 57andfemale
    August 30, 2012 at 3:20 pm

  27. 87 Tally
    August 30, 2012 at 3:24 pm

  28. 95 Ladyhawke
    August 30, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    How Mitt Romney’s Abortion Rhetoric Is One Big Exercise in Gaslighting

    Amy Sullivan


    Gaslighting is at times the only explanation for Romney’s willingness to say things that are breathtakingly false. The most recent example I have in mind is an interview he gave on Monday to CBS’s Scott Pelley that touched on his ever-morphing position on abortion rights. Unlike Herman Cain, who made absurd statements about his position on abortion during the primaries because he appeared to be genuinely unaware of the past 40 years in U.S. politics, Romney is not stupid. But he is banking on the hope that voters are.

    Here’s my annotated version of the CBS interview:
    But not too much effort. And that’s where the gaslighting comes in. Instead of taking the issue seriously and explaining where he stands, Romney asserts that abortion isn’t a relevant issue in the presidential race, misleads viewers about whether abortion rights are settled in law, and lies about his position. If his answers seem off, that’s because there’s something wrong with you.



    • 96 0388jojothecat
      August 30, 2012 at 3:53 pm

      I was watching The Daily Show and one of the lady’s on the show was asking about the abortion on their platform and how it was not for abortions if the womans health was in danger and all but one agreed with it. The majority stated that none of the republcans had to live or die by the platform. That it was an individuals’ choice to have or not have an abortion. What a bunch of hypocrits.

    • 97 EricFive
      August 30, 2012 at 4:01 pm

      Romney is a pathological liar. To him the ends (winning the Presidency) justifies the means (constant lying and distortion). I just hope the country is not as racist/stupid as Mitt thinks it is. He is basing his entire candidacy on his whiteness.

  29. 98 57andfemale
    August 30, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    • 100 dotster3
      August 30, 2012 at 3:38 pm

      Super great!—–photo and interview! My absolute fave part was President Obama saying that life is less sparkly and twinkly when the girls aren’t around. Perfect!

  30. 102 Ladyhawke
    August 30, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    The Janesville falsehood

    By Steve Benen


    But the closer one looks at Ryan’s attack, the more bizarre it appears.

    At the surface, there’s just no reason to suggest Obama is responsible for a plant closing initiated under Bush. But even beyond the surface-level lie, the ideological disconnect is almost as striking.

    President Obama, as you may have heard, rescued the American auto industry in 2009, over Republican objections. In the process, Obama not only saved GM, he rescued plants, workers, and communities.

    Ryan, unwilling to respect Americans enough to talk to us like adults, is trying to make a child-like appeal: the plant is closed, Obama is president, ergo blame Obama for the plant closing.



  31. August 30, 2012 at 3:32 pm

  32. 104 susanne
    August 30, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    good hawaii morning chips and tods!

    just have to re-post this favorite bit from last night–finally, some rethug job-creation!

    ‘ The good news is that the Romney-Ryan campaign has likely created dozens of new jobs among the legions of additional fact checkers that media outlets are rushing to hire to sift through the mountain of cow dung that flowed from Ryan’s mouth. ‘

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/30/paul-ryans-speech-in-three-words/#ixzz251XxqoVs

    also, here’s a new bit from the san jose mercury news, which also delves into the fact-free chris christie speech:


    now i’ll finish breakfast and go back to read all today’s posts and comments–aloha till then!

  33. August 30, 2012 at 3:44 pm

  34. 109 57andfemale
    August 30, 2012 at 3:45 pm

  35. August 30, 2012 at 3:56 pm

  36. 112 joyfulmeme
    August 30, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    Not Good with Twitter. Interesting article with Mr Presidential businessman.

    36m Paul Begala ‏@PaulBegala
    Is Romney responding to RS story? Romney got $10M fed bailout by threatening to spend all Bain’s cash on bonuses. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-federal-bailout-that-saved-mitt-romney-20120829#ixzz253gzkv98

  37. 113 daisydem
    August 30, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    Let’s hope I can imbed this (H/T Cheeriogirl at Politicalgates):file:///C:/Users/Pierce/Documents/RECIPES/Mock,%20Paper,%20Scissors%20%C2%BB%20Blog%20Archive%20%C2%BB%20The%20GOP%20just%20doesn%E2%80%99t%20understand%20the%20web_files/enhanced-buzz-15952-1346343775-11.jpg

    Don’t know if this will work when you link; it is a copy of a Press Release from Paul Ryan about the closing of the Janesville Plant – note the date!

  38. August 30, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    I just watched that video and can I just say, Paul Ryan is immensely physically unattractive. And he sounds like a junior high debater delivering what he believes will get him a good score. It’s disingenuous at best. I just have to laugh when he delivers what he thinks are applause lines and then pauses to see if anyone will respond. PHONY as they come.

    • August 30, 2012 at 4:02 pm

      They all are ineffective weak speakers but of course when we are used to PBO speeches, I can barely listen to any of them speak. The media acted like this was some kind of great speech, but it is all BS! One of the many reasons they hate PBO so much is their lack of ability in oration and the fact that he can really reach people besides his base. Ryan’s speech was for the audience, and I don’t see how he reached a single swing voter.

    • 118 Ladyhawke
      August 30, 2012 at 4:33 pm

      Paul Ryan totally lacks the background and experience to be the VP nominee. In addition, he does not have the gravitas and stature required for the office. He looks like he could be Mitt Romney’s son. He’s like a mini-mitt.

      • 119 susanne
        August 30, 2012 at 5:12 pm

        he also looks like a lying creep. when he’s speaking i just want to scream–the faces he makes are condescending and obnoxious beyond words. but then, i guess that makes him perfect for the rethugs.

        • 120 auntsis522
          August 30, 2012 at 7:14 pm

          At first I thought that having FOX news on your side was a good thing. Now, I see the opposite. It is not good to be with folks who share in your delusions. There is no one over there that will stand up for the truth so everything they say is unchecked. None of them can stand up to National scrutiny and remember, MSM is still on their side.

  39. August 30, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    I think – and this is very extreme, I know, but at this point I don’t care – that if push come to shove, PBO campaign should find a way to leak Romney’s tax returns. There’s no doubt that he broke the law and if we have to, we should use the A bomb. This is a matter of life and death.

    • August 30, 2012 at 4:00 pm

      Timing is everything, bwd … those tax returns will not remain hidden, of that I have 100% confidence 🙂

      • 123 0388jojothecat
        August 30, 2012 at 4:05 pm

        The October Surprise?

      • 124 cookemom
        August 30, 2012 at 4:18 pm

        I agree, but surely not by the PBO campaign. To even suggest it implies he’s willing to break the law. We don’t want a meme like that to even get the tiniest of play. All lurkers are not Dems. This kind of suggestion could easily make it’s way around the webz as proof to them of what the ‘leftist marxist communist from Kenya will do to steal the election’

    • 125 cookemom
      August 30, 2012 at 4:13 pm

      Are you saying PBO’s campaign would commit a crime by authorizing or being party to a leak of Mitt’s returns? I wouldn’t take a step toward suggesting anything like that here, or anywhere in cyberspace. How do they even have the returns, where are they, the IRS would illegally release them to the campaign? I understand desperate times calling for desperate measures, but this is just not a good thing to even hint at. If those returns get leaked, by anyone, even by Mitt, PBO will be blamed for it as he is about national security leaks.

      • August 30, 2012 at 4:23 pm

        I agree cookemom. I don’t believe the Obama campaign would ever do that, and I would not want them to. I read an article saying that Harry Reid could legally ask the IRS to see the returns, and who knows maybe he has and maybe he is waiting to the right time. By not showing the returns, Mitt has already basically admitted something is wrong in them and not right. I don’t actually think the campaign is felling any ounce of desperation. The GOP has not done themselves any favors at this convention to move the female vote, or the minority vote, and not the youth vote. We have to focus on voter registration, voter outreach, and organizing.

        • 127 cookemom
          August 30, 2012 at 5:52 pm

          Even Harry can’t see them without going through members of congress and we know what would happen if he requested them, or if he has already. I believe he has either seen them or has on good authority the information from someone who has. Other than that, the voters know by Mitt’s own actions that somethings up.

      • August 30, 2012 at 4:33 pm

        He’s being blamed for everything and anything. It doesn’t matter. Of course it’s a crazy idea and not something that is a cool-head moment I would even think of, but honestly I can’t see how we beat this evil playing fair. I don’t mind their money advantage, but the media doing their dirty job is a bit too much in this day and age.

        • 129 cookemom
          August 30, 2012 at 5:56 pm

          There’s a big difference in playing fair, playing dirty, and breaking the law. I agree there’s nothing wrong with taking off the gloves. How is it even possible for Mitt’s tax returns to be released by PBO or his campaign? How would they get them? Does PBO issue an executive order and they magically appear on his desk? Or does he do a Watergate, break into the IRS building and take pictures? Just how could this even be accomplished? I feel ya though. I don’t think it’s that dire though.

      • 130 Obama Grandmama
        August 30, 2012 at 4:45 pm

        Right, cookemom. To purposely leak the tax returns is on parr with Nixon’s work to ensure re-election. We don’t want that!

  40. 131 Anna
    August 30, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    How does one live with themselves when they stand up in front of the world and blatantly lie? I am befuddled, beyond that disgusted. Their next round of tricks is trying ‘swift boating’, I believe that is what the supposedly insided story of getting Osama Bin Ladin by a Seal is, and the movie Obama 2016 is all about. Just finishing contributing to Obama/Biden and others. Going to do more after Willard speaks tonight, counter their expected great out pouring of money after Ryan/Romney speeches. I do doubt the racist female gives anything to anybody, sounds like someone who just wants without giving.

  41. August 30, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    Keith Olbermann posted on FB that the media was all too happy to cover “Weiner gate,” but want to be silent on a VP candidate literally lying his ass off. I admit I was very disappointed in Lawrence O last night who basically said Ryan was not telling the truth but that it did not really matter as Steele agreed. After Senator Durbin called out Ryan on Jansing and Co this morning, Jansing posed a dumb question like “does it really matter?” What is wrong with these people. Of course it matters, and they should at least try to summon an ounce of journalism and do their jobs. We have to bombard them on twitter. We must call them out. It is sad that we have to force them to do their jobs. Imagine if this was PBO blatantly lying. They would not give him a pass, but of course they gave GWB one so I guess it is all the same for them.

  42. 133 Ladyhawke
    August 30, 2012 at 4:01 pm


    Reality-based community
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Reality-based community is an informal term in the United States. In the fall of 2004, the phrase “proud member of the reality-based community” was first used to suggest the commentator’s opinions are based more on observation than on faith, assumption, or ideology. The term has been defined as people who “believe that solutions emerge from judicious study of discernible reality.” Some commentators have gone as far as to suggest that there is an overarching conflict in society between the reality-based community and the “faith-based community” as a whole. It can be seen as an example of political framing.

    The source of the term is a quotation in an October 17, 2004, The New York Times Magazine article by writer Ron Suskind, quoting an unnamed aide to George W. Bush (later attributed to Karl Rove[1]):

    The aide said that guys like me were “in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who “believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” … “That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”[2]



    • 134 susanne
      August 30, 2012 at 5:16 pm

      wow–that is a powerful and bit of insight into the evil rethug machine. we keep asking ourselves, how is it possible that we’re seeing the candidates for the highest offices in this land stand up and blatantly lie? well, here’s the answer: we call it ‘lying’, they call it ‘creating our own reality’.

  43. 135 squarepeg
    August 30, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    SON OF A FUCKING BITCH…that Americans for Prosperity ad is STILL on the front page of Youtube. DAMMIT 😦

  44. 136 Ladyhawke
    August 30, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    Are you a journalist? Politico leads the crop of post-Ryan reporting failures

    by Hunter


    It is now time to play are you a journalist?, the special game to see whether you, as supposed expert in the field of political reporting, know a single thing about the substance of what you are actually being asked to report on—or whether your skill, conversely, is relegated entirely towards critiquing the fashions and speaking styles of the powerful figures you are tasked with following.
    And then it is topped off by noting that it is more important that it “resonates” with the people Ryan wishes to persuade than whether the details he was persuading them with were, in fact, abso-posi-tively bullshit of the highest order. The American people, it is asserted, do not give two shits whether they are lied to, so long as (1) the speaker looks good while doing it and (2) no member of the supposed Fourth Estate, the proclaimed defenders of our democracy, challengers of the powerful, and the nation’s check against public corruption and dishonesty, bothers to let those same American people know that this fellow over here actually is conning them eight ways from Sunday. Good show. Never has a more succinct dismissal of the actual duties of journalism ever been so aptly put into words. That may have to go in the next round of textbooks.



  45. 137 xtine
    August 30, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    From AP no less:

    DENVER (AP) — Nearly a third of people whose citizenship and right to vote were questioned by Colorado’s secretary of state are actually U.S. citizens, election officials said Wednesday, prompting Democrats to question the motives behind the effort to clean up voting rolls as a tightly contested presidential election approaches.


    Gessler’s office plans to release updated figures Thursday detailing how many of the 4,000 people responded directly to affirm their citizenship or withdraw their voter registration. He said no further action will be taken involving people who did not respond to the letters.


    A total of 1,566 letters went to Democrats and 1,794 went to unaffiliated voters. Another 486 letters were sent to Republicans.


  46. 138 redbird45 (@redbird45)
    August 30, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    paul Ryan Obama poster joke, was not funny to the college students. They hit back check out their tweets. http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/twitter-users-take-offense-to-paul-ryans-faded-o

    • 139 vcprezofan2
      August 30, 2012 at 4:31 pm

      These tweets are nice little pick-me-uppers. Here’s a sample

  47. 140 FiredUpInCA
    August 30, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    “RNC Ratings Night Two: Networks Lose 17 Million Viewers Compared To Night Two Of 2008 RNC”


    Because lying sack of Mitt Paul Ryan was announced so early, he was defined so early and he didn’t benefit from the build-up of anticipation that the Quitta from Wasilla received (and subsequently squandered.)

    • 141 auntsis522
      August 30, 2012 at 7:19 pm

      Well, count me in as of those 17 million. In 2008, my television was stuck on CNN. What a difference 4 years make. I was thinking of watching Willard the other liar speech, but I am not in the mood to scream @ my TV.

  48. 142 redbird45 (@redbird45)
    August 30, 2012 at 4:19 pm

  49. 144 xtine
    August 30, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    Appeals court rejects Texas voter-ID law

    As Bloomberg News noted, today’s decision “marks the first time a U.S. court weighed in on the Obama administration’s effort to use the Voting Rights Act of 1965 to block a state from requiring photo ID to vote.”

    The appeals court panel, by the way, was unanimous in the ruling, including the judge appointed to the bench by George W. Bush.


    [Thank you DOJ!]

  50. August 30, 2012 at 4:28 pm


  51. 146 Tally
    August 30, 2012 at 4:40 pm

  52. 147 57andfemale
    August 30, 2012 at 4:43 pm

  53. 148 Tally
    August 30, 2012 at 4:43 pm

  54. 149 Vicki
    August 30, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    We all knew or at least suspected that this would be a tough week. It ends tonight. And next week our enthusiastic and truthful campaign will be in the nation’s spotlight.
    We have three days to tell our story and present our plans for a bright future. We will put their ratings and lies to shame.

    Night one: Julian Castro, Michelle Obama–Obamacare-YAY, immigrants welcome, women decide about their own healthcare, the democratic party cares about all of us.
    Night two: Bill Clinton, Elizabeth Warren—The Economy…This is how to do it for all of us. Consumer protection, increased employment, a budget surplus GM lives
    Night three: US in The World—John Kerry, Joe Biden and the CIC. Irag over, OBL defunct, Afghanistan winding down, and USA prestige at all-time high.

    Cheer up, BWD and Michael Moore. We can do this and we will.

    • August 30, 2012 at 4:57 pm

      I don’t really think this week was all that tough at all. We didn’t hear a single thing from the Republicans that we have not heard before. As a matter of fact that says more to me than anything else. Why are they giving speeches directly targeted at their base? That seems to suggest to me problems with the base. They did not gain a single swing voter with their speeches. The ratings are down by 17 million compared to 2008. That convention audience was dry most of the time until a couple of speakers spoke. There was no diversity there, and no one can win the Presidency with all white older voters. It won’t happen. That convention has been dry, and I am not just saying that because I am an Obama supporter. The 2008 RNC was way more exciting and it showed. Then there were people on tv with RNC hats on saying they were actually voting for President Obama. I couldn’t believe it, but that is what they said. On the bright side McCain got a bump from the Palin pick, but Romney has not. I follow Nate Silver because he has it right more than anybody, and he says that the conventions don’t really matter as far as polls are concerned and that the election really starts after both conventions are over.

  55. 151 xtine
    August 30, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    [Why, Bebe, why? :(]

    I guess it’s not so bad to have “celebrity friends” after all. The secret/surprise guest at tonight’s Republican convention will be Clint Eastwood, who’ll apparently speak after a former American Idol contestant and a performance from Bebe Winans and a choir.

    Perhaps Jack Blades’ singing and Jon Voight’s wild-eyed vitriol weren’t quite cutting it, celebrity-wise.


  56. 156 proudmemberofglobalzero
    August 30, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    Just got off work. Huge Republican Women support for PBO in Palm Beach County. Women cannot stand Romney and more so Ryan. They are paying attention. I had a great conversation with them today…Shocked I tell you, shocked!!

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