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Rise and Shine

Morning everyone, will be back in a while, chat away 😉


186 Responses to “Rise and Shine”


  1. 1 vcprezofan2
    August 24, 2012 at 10:04 am

    It’s Friday and we are creeping closer to … Nov 6th! Are you FIRED UP and READY to VOTE #ObamaBiden2012? Have a SUPER DUPER FRIDAY, TODobots! 😆 😆

  2. 7 amk for obama
    August 24, 2012 at 10:05 am

    GM folks. GM chips.

    • 8 vcprezofan2
      August 24, 2012 at 10:09 am

      ‘Howdy’ Amk! Anything good on the stove? I’m starving from the long wait for Chips to wake up.

      • 9 amk for obama
        August 24, 2012 at 10:13 am

        GM vc. I see that you were leaning on the door. So this is for you.

        What is the only time a man thinks about a candlelight dinner?

        When the power goes off.

        • 10 vcprezofan2
          August 24, 2012 at 10:37 am

          Now there you go inflating the scope of the male brain again, amk – there’s no ‘thinking’ involved here! He simply lights the candle because it’s dark, it’s dinner time and he was hungry….. as usual.

          • 11 amk for obama
            August 24, 2012 at 10:46 am

            umm, it was actually a dink against men.

            wimmin/smh.

            • 12 vcprezofan2
              August 24, 2012 at 11:14 am

              I thought the ‘dink’ had a strain of ‘praise’ – couldn’t let that little strain be allowed to lay untrammelled on the battleground of Amk & wimmin. 😉 😉

              /wait a minute, how did I get caught up in this after silently vowing NOT TO GET INVOLVED from the first time amk started his ‘wimmin’ jokes? / s*m*h

            • 13 yardarm756
              August 24, 2012 at 11:29 am

              I’m with you amk. Wimmin indeed. Lemme, gimme, let me have, and I want. Sheesh. Oh and where is your sensitive side?

        • 14 vcprezofan2
          August 24, 2012 at 10:48 am

          BTW, I forgot to say I like your choice of cartoons! The one with the senior reminds me of Mitt leading his blind teacher into an obstacle for ‘the fun of it’.

  3. 15 amk for obama
    August 24, 2012 at 10:07 am

    Chips – see if you can FP this excellent post by hf.

    http://theobamadiary.com/2012/08/23/a-warm-minnetonka-welcome/#comment-463020

    • 16 hopefruit2
      August 24, 2012 at 10:10 am

      Aw – thanks amk! Doesn’t have to be FP-ed, but I’m happy to just repost it on the threads as needed 🙂

  4. August 24, 2012 at 10:07 am

    morning everyone, congrats VC…I was watching out for it, but like before, you get caught up reading a previous blog or tweet and presto…new post…gggrrrrrr. anyhow, next time…have a happy friday every1 and goodnight

    • 18 vcprezofan2
      August 24, 2012 at 10:19 am

      Morning Berny! 😆
      That’s exactly what happens to me fairly often, especially when Chips doesn’t arrive in the time frame I’ve determined in my mind. I wander off and get distracted like a dog chasing each rabbit that sticks his head out of the bushes. 😉 😉 I usually figure out, ‘Okay the Obama admin is going here or there so CC will post X number of minutes before, or this is a super long blog so we’ll get a new post pretty soon, or Chips was up late making jokes on the blog so that means she won’t be in too early tomorrow.’ Of course 7/8 of the time I’m waaayyy off, but that 1/8 portion perks me up every time. All this even tho I have made a severely serious decision (a week and a half ago) to give up this crazy podium quest! I have…..well mostly.. 😳

  5. 19 hopefruit2
    August 24, 2012 at 10:14 am

    There has been a shooting incident in NYC at Empire State Building – suspect is dead (shot by police) and several or more wounded, one in serious condition. FBI said it’s not terror-related. Details still developing. Mayor Bloomberg to make a statement soon. I guess he will happily use this to attack PBO while letting his GOP friends in congress who are lobbied by the NRA off the hook?

  6. August 24, 2012 at 10:17 am

    The other day somebody posted a video of the Iowa guy who asked PBO for job-hunting advice and the video featured a dance party (?). Anyhow, the guy got a write-up on the front page (below the fold) of the Des Moines Register this morning: http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20120823/NEWS/308230074/Advice-from-Obama-helps-guy-land-a-job?nclick_check=1

    My observations – the videos of the 25-year old seemed similar to all the college kids I see every day here working at the UI. I don’t think he’s trying to be disrespectful – “they” (as a stereotyped group) are just into that stuff. Wow, I sound OLD. But I didn’t take it as rude to PBO. He says in the article he wasn’t being sarcastic.

    My favorite lines from the news article – he never thought to go in person – duh, he just kept e-mailing his resume out to job openings. Also the news director at KWWL recognized him, so I wonder if it’s a bit of a PR thing for the station? And the guy’s opening line at the encounter: “The President sent me!” 😆

    • 28 dotster3
      August 24, 2012 at 10:45 am

      I love this story—–love how President Obama responded. No other president compares.

    • 29 Cman
      August 24, 2012 at 10:45 am

      I don’t think it’s all that obvious that going in person helps. I mean just think of all the time you have applied for a job. You hardly start by going there in person. It is usually you fill out application online and stuff and then you get to meet the person after some interest is shown.

      • 30 99ts
        August 24, 2012 at 11:08 am

        It’s thinking outside the box that helps – and that’s what the President has done forever. He suggested the guy go along and offer to work as an intern – for free if necessary.

      • 31 theo67
        August 24, 2012 at 12:30 pm

        I think it’s unique to this type of job/profession – and the fact that the kid is looking for an internship. I’m glad he found a job, and once again, very proud to be one of the many who sees the wisdom of President Obama.

      • August 24, 2012 at 3:25 pm

        Note that the President explicitly said (apart from showing up in person): “Offer them to do an internship”.

        Give them something for free, to show you are ready for the job.

  7. 34 Ladyhawke
    August 24, 2012 at 10:18 am

    ROMNEY SIGNING GROVER NORQUIST “NO TAX PLEDGE” SHOULD DISQUALIFY HIM

    Grover Norquist Killing the Republican Party

    By: John M. Curtis (August 19, 2012)

    ———————————

    Norquist’s “No Tax Pledge” is the Cool-Aid lapped up by GOP presidential nominee former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and his VP pick House Budget Committee Chairman Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.). Both buy Norquist’s pledge lock, stock and barrel, promising, should they get elected, to further cut taxes and slash the size and influence of the federal establishment. Romney and Ryan’s economic plan involves more Reagan-style tax cuts, a federal hiring freeze and job cuts. “Something that both Jeb Bush should have been a little bit aware of, and his father, that commitment most Republicans who run for office make is to the American people and to the people of their state,” said Norquist, in more non sequiturs. As it stands today, Republicans must demonstrate their undying loyalty to Norquist, not to the U.S. Constitution and certainly not the American people.

    Norquist’s fanaticism has hijacked the Republicans Party, destroying the two-party system and forever gridlocking Washington. Billionaire investor, the sage of Omaha, Warren Buffett has begged Congress in the so-called “Buffett Rule” to increase taxes on millionaires and billionaires. Norquist says no.

    ——————————————–

    http://www.examiner.com/article/grover-norquist-killing-the-republican-party

  8. August 24, 2012 at 10:19 am

    Kris Kobach, Immigration adviser for Robney and Kansas Secretary of State, has brought a lawsuit against napolitano, for the Easing of Deportations, Mini -Dream Act rule.

    That is dumb. Think about it?

    • 40 99ts
      August 24, 2012 at 11:10 am

      I don’t think Romney wants smart people as advisers – he wants folks who say yes sir no sir and don’t think very much.

  9. 41 relellit
    August 24, 2012 at 10:20 am

    Good morning

    Congratulations on 1st vcprezofan2

    Yes, I am FIRED UP. I’m going to Iowa tomorrow to canvas.

    Everyone have a nice day 🙂

  10. 44 hopefruit2
    August 24, 2012 at 10:20 am

    • 45 utaustinliberal
      August 24, 2012 at 11:19 am

      I turn on the computer and BAM! this hits me in the face on Yahoo! It feels like every week we’ve having another mass shooting. It’s horrific.

  11. August 24, 2012 at 10:23 am

    And those GOP friends are also trying to eliminate the health coverage that could pay for a lot of people’s counseling and meds, the spending on social service agencies that go into troubled neighborhoods and try to stop the violence, and the police patrols that can help keep an eye on things. But God forbid we even try to regulate guns or even instill a sense of responsibility about them.

    We do better with cars. We at least try to educate people in the responsible use and keep those who can’t off the road. But then drivers have never had a lobby like the NRA.

  12. 47 Ladyhawke
    August 24, 2012 at 10:27 am

    RYAN SAYS “THE METHOD OF CONCEPTION” IS IRRELEVANT

    Oops, Ryan did it again

    By Steve Benen

    —————————–

    In this case, when Ryan says “the method of conception” is irrelevant, he’s talking about rape. In other words, the Republicans’ vice presidential nominee clearly believes the government should force women to take their pregnancy to term if they are impregnated by a rapist. Republicans can only distance themselves so much from Todd Akin before we realize they share his views.
    .
    .
    Here’s a follow-up question for those with access to Ryan: if tragedy were to strike and you became president at some point during the next four years, how would you intend to shape policy to force rape victims to take their pregnancies to term?

    ———————————-

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/08/24/13456027-oops-ryan-did-it-again?lite

  13. August 24, 2012 at 10:35 am

    Do you look back fondly on Bill Clinton’s time in office as an era of prosperity? President Barack Obama’s re-election campaign hopes you do—because it will be unleashing the gifted politician, sometimes known as “the Big Dog,” in battleground states.

    “I anticipate that he’ll be one of our principal surrogates in the fall,” a senior Obama campaign official told several dozen reporters at a briefing held in Washington. The session, which included six top Obama campaign officials, was held on condition that they not be named.

    “Obviously, President Clinton has extraordinary credibility on these issues of how you build a strong economy,” the official said. “He faced some of the same forces when he was president that president Obama is facing now, the same opposition to dealing with a fiscal challenge by taxing the wealthy to pay a little more, the same opposition to the kind of investments we need to make in order to grow the economy.”

    His hopes for a second term weighed down by the sour economy, the current president frequently invokes Clinton in his stump speech and paints the Obama-Romney choice in November as being between Clinton’s economy and George W. Bush’s. And Clinton appears to have set aside any bad blood from the 2008 campaign, when Obama beat Hillary Clinton in a frequently harsh campaign. Clinton has starred in Obama campaign ads, helped Obama raise funds and defended Obama in media interviews. (It hasn’t always gone perfectly. Republicans gleefully seized on Clinton’s description of Romney’s business record as “sterling.”) Next up, Clinton will play a starring role at the Democratic convention—formally nominating Obama for re-election and defending his economic policies.

    To hear the Obama campaign aides tell it, Clinton will play such as big role that the fall campaign may start to feel like an Obama/Biden/Clinton ticket. “We want as much of his time as he’s willing to give. And he’s been very generous so far,” said the official. “He’s indicated to us that he’s willing to give us a significant amount of time moving forward.”

    http://m.yahoo.com/w/legobpengine/news/blogs/ticket/bill-clinton-obama-message-battleground-states-191458870.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=US&.lang=en-US

    • 51 57andFemale
      August 24, 2012 at 10:53 am

      I sincerely hope that Bill Clinton can walk forward in his support of PBO, and not take two steps back as he is wont to do.

      Use him. He’s popular. Thanks, Repubs, for all of a sudden finding a fondness for that ‘centrist’ Bill Clinton, since Bill Clinton will be saying from now to election day how Republican policies suck and spell disaster.

      I still don’t trust Clinton to do more good than harm but I fully expect him to be effing brilliant at the convention.

  14. 52 cluny
    August 24, 2012 at 10:37 am

    Excellent article about the upcoming debates by James Fallows. Fallows is for the president (I am certain of it). I think he was a speechwriter for Carter – anyway – I suspect he did this as a way of alerting the president to the tricks Romney has up his sleeve. It’s a long article but a must read:
    http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012-election/slugfest-sizing-up-the-obama-romney-debates-20120823
    Would be interested to hear how others find the article.

    • 53 hopefruit2
      August 24, 2012 at 10:40 am

      PBO is a Chicago politician. He will be more than ready for any tricks that Romney has up his sleeve. It’s Romney the one who needs to be prepared for PBO.

      • August 24, 2012 at 10:45 am

        Not only that, but the President will be able to set the record straight, in front if tens of millions. This is not what Robney is looking forward to. He would rather lie, and play lying ads, all the way to Election Day.
        The GOP I’d already trying to play the Refs and releasing ads on the matter, they are scared of the truth.
        So…, if this writer is an Obama supporter, he sure has a funny way of putting it!

        • 55 cluny
          August 24, 2012 at 10:59 am

          So I guess you didn’t like the article …

        • 56 EricFive
          August 24, 2012 at 12:03 pm

          $10,000 bet that PBO wipes up the floor with Mitt during the debates. PBO is more intelligent than Mitt, has a greater grasp of the facts and has the TRUTH on his side, unlike Mitt. I also bet a plate of cheesy grits that the MSM will claim Mitt won every debate (or at the very least earned a draw).

    • August 24, 2012 at 11:17 am

      Very interesting – esp. the comparison of candidate BO in the debates vs likely POTUS BO in future debates. I really enjoyed the revisit to the GOP debates from the past year, I remember how awkward Mitt always looked with that wooden smile and awful insincere laugh. I’m sure PBO’s team has plenty of ideas how to throw Mitt off his game.

      • August 24, 2012 at 12:55 pm

        I agree. I think the president is underestimated by his peers. On the other hand, I have seen him underestimate people as he did with that woman who challenged him on his hope and change vision, telling him she was disappointed. When you have a clear vision it is important to make sure that you carry people along with you but also make sure they are still following when the going gets rough. There he faltered. On the grand stage however, I believe his open honesty and humanity will win out over the robot. The article was well written and researched and worth reading.

    • 59 isonprize
      August 24, 2012 at 11:29 am

      Cluny, The author’s premise of the article (if Obama is taking anything for granted about these encounters, he is making a mistake) is false. What evidence does he have that PBO would take anything for granted?

      PBO always does his homework, his research. He listens and watches people. PBO has a team of excellent folks who will have put in the work to prepare him for these debates. And PBO will have worked just as hard as his team.

      I think the author has good information in the article, but like I said earlier, his premise is ‘off.’

      • 60 cluny
        August 24, 2012 at 11:48 am

        I don’t get that impression – I think his concern is that as President BO has so many other obligations, committments that may encroach on his preparation time. I suppose the relationship he has with his staff would have changed too – maybe back in 2008 his staff might be more upfront about pushing him or suggesting lines of attack etc. I don’t think he is criticizing PBO – just pointing out where the potential pitfalls might be. Like all who support the President I’m sure it’s his way of giving ‘advice’ (like we do when we call Chicago headquarters). He may be wrong but I think it’s his way of being extra careful and in a way trying to warn the President. I think that sort of thing can be helpful – keeps everyone on their toes and its good for the media so that they don’t lower expectations for Romney too much – which they will try to do for sure. It’s interesting how we have such different reactions to the same article/information isn’t it.

  15. 61 hopefruit2
    August 24, 2012 at 10:44 am

    How the hell is this even permissible? Since when does a candidate get to dictate what questions he will and won’t be asked? And why does the MSM just roll over and allow themselves to be kicked like unwanted animals?

    • August 24, 2012 at 10:47 am

      Th President can now say no questions on the economy. LOL!

    • 64 Linda
      August 24, 2012 at 10:54 am

      That is not what he said yesterday.

      Tim Wolff, the assistant news director at WHIO in Ohio, said that no pre-conditions were placed on what kind of questions the station could ask.

      “As far as I know there were no restrictions even asked for,” he told The Huffington Post.

      • 65 hopefruit2
        August 24, 2012 at 10:59 am

        Yet he says something differently here. This guy is probably a Romney shill. Perhaps a friend of John Boehner:

        “They were chatting and it came up and I believe [a Romney staffer’s] wording was that they prefer not to talk about it,” assistant news director Tim Wolff told TPM. “But we didn’t care because we were going to talk about Ohio stuff.”

    • 66 yardarm756
      August 24, 2012 at 11:44 am

      It really isn’t a problem for a king who’s Sheriff of Nottingham is a Ryan.”You serfs are fortunate that I even stoop to engage your lowly press.”

    • 67 EricFive
      August 24, 2012 at 12:08 pm

      They are willing to sacrifice their integrity (as if they had any) in order to get the interview. Mitt would rather avoid all interviews (except maybe a Fox propagandafest). It is good that they are blowing the whistle about the preconditions Mitt is setting. It makes Mitt look weak and not ready for primetime, IMHO.

    • 69 57andFemale
      August 24, 2012 at 10:57 am

      this frame is great, of course. “Ending Medicare as we know it” is a great frame of course.

      The $6,000 number has its pitfalls: a lot of seniors are paying Medigap insurance now at about that amount of money so they are seeing it as a wash.

      But here is what I am finding far more effective with my senior friends who I have had to reassure and re-educate for three years:

      “Romney/Ryan/Repubs will take away GUARANTEED BENEFITS. This gets through to them. There will be no guaranteed benefits, and you will be fighting your insurance company for the same coverage that is GUARANTEED now under Medicare.

      I still do not understand why this administration has such a difficult time finding the right buttons to push on health care and Medicare.

      • 70 Linda
        August 24, 2012 at 11:01 am

        I still do not understand why this administration has such a difficult time finding the right buttons to push on health care and Medicare.

        I agree…..they let all those insurance company rebates that were given back in July and this month go un-reported….

        They could have used those in an ad with people showing their rebate checks and the accompanying letter saying they came as a result of the Affordable Care Act.

        I sent that suggestion to OFA, they ignored it.

        • 71 57andFemale
          August 24, 2012 at 11:03 am

          I don’t understand it, Linda. I really don’t.

        • 72 japa21
          August 24, 2012 at 11:44 am

          Their approach this year has been a several step approach.
          1. Define Romney so as to limit his ceiling
          2. Go after the GOP in general (they are starting on this now and will be strong with it post convention. The Ryan pick and Akin make this even easier.
          3. Go with the successes of the PBO administration. Remember those brief snippets we had earlier in the year going through all the accomplishments. I expect all those, put together, to be the main presentation at the convention before PBO speaks.
          4. Hit hard on those areas where the Republicans are attacking him, such as HCR and the stimulus. Adds will come out showing the resurgence of Detroit, the diminishing of al Qaeda, and HCR (among others). Don’t be surprised if the rebate checks aren’t used then.
          Doing a lot of this now would be wasted, as most people are not paying attention. They will use this for maximum advantage.

          • 73 amk for obama
            August 24, 2012 at 11:54 am

            Yup. The silly season of summer is not the time to waste your money and energy.

          • 74 EricFive
            August 24, 2012 at 12:13 pm

            I agree Japa21. Timing is everything in politics. PBO is keeping his powder dry until he can get the most bang for his buck.

    • 75 cluny
      August 24, 2012 at 11:29 am

      For those on twitter please consider sending this on to the debate moderators with a request that they properly familiarize themselves with policy:
      Jim Lehrer
      Candy Crowley
      Martha Radditz
      Bob Schieffer

  16. 77 57andFemale
    August 24, 2012 at 11:02 am

  17. 78 dotster3
    August 24, 2012 at 11:02 am

    Think this got some attention in last thread but deserves another spotlight—-re the secretive data-mining project used by the Willard campaign—-with a Bain connection—to locate wealthy donors. I think this answers the previous article about Willard coming up with all these new donors in Dem areas, like San Fran, where he has collected $350,000 recently. They are searching through Americans’ personal info—-purchasing history, credit info, property tax records, church attendance etc. to find and target their likely donors. There is no record of this firm being paid by the Willard campaign or the RNC etc. Owner of Buxton, the data-mining firm, refused to answer AP’s questions, said he was offering his services because he wanted to be “on the winning team”, so all that work for free??? hmmmmm. And I wonder how the public would feel about all this snooping into all their personal data.
    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ap-exclusive-romney-uses-secretive-data-mining

  18. 80 57andFemale
    August 24, 2012 at 11:06 am

  19. 81 joyfulmeme
    August 24, 2012 at 11:13 am

    Interesting that CNN Anderson Cooper is now trying to go after the facts. I think Debbie Wasserman Shultz defended her position well while Anderson missed the entire point. See below link.
    http://t.co/f4epN5QO

  20. 86 hopefruit2
    August 24, 2012 at 11:17 am

    • 87 Nena20409
      August 24, 2012 at 11:25 am

      Well….they always shout and bash pres Obama. Yet not one of these talkative ignoramus would work to organize and push those who actually are elected to pass the laws. But screaming and insulting pres Obama is IN Vogue…..it is welcomed and it gives them some thrill.

    • 88 amk for obama
      August 24, 2012 at 11:25 am

      • 89 hopefruit2
        August 24, 2012 at 11:35 am

        OMG…do you realize that she deleted her tweet after getting pushback? It’s not showing on her or my twitter feed, and no longer showing up on the tweet I posted here!!

        • 90 amk for obama
          August 24, 2012 at 11:39 am

          Good. It was one of the stupidest posts on twitter.

        • 91 vcprezofan2
          August 24, 2012 at 12:57 pm

          Okay Hopefruit, here’s an opportunity to be ‘teacher of the day’. How does one delete a tweet AFTER it’s been sent and others have even responded to it? I didn’t realize you could! I’ve had one or two with spelling errors and though I blushed vividly on the realization I wasn’t aware I could withdraw it from the eyes of the world. 😉 ‘Fess up!

  21. August 24, 2012 at 11:33 am

    This is my 4th attempt to log in to greet my O peeps on this great getting up day on TOD avenue. My computer has kicked me out of cyberspace and bounced me off the walls of the innerwebz. I put up the good fight and now I’m finally here. All the good stuff I was going to say earlier is mere pixel dust, disintegrated by the impact of the violent struggle that was waged. So none the worse for wear, I’ll start anew.

    My political take today is the Pub convention will be like Barnum and Bailey. Not because of the obvious circus clowns starring Chucklesbee, Rapin’ Akin, young gun RAyn, Ron Paul tin foil brigade, and the least acceptable candidate Pittiful Mittiful. Instead, because of that famous quote by PT Barnum about how often fools are born, of whom the many will be in attendance there.

  22. 102 57andFemale
    August 24, 2012 at 11:40 am

  23. 103 Linda
    August 24, 2012 at 11:49 am

    “New York City is the safest city in the country,” says Mayor Bloomberg. “But we are not immune to the national problem of gun violence.”

    —-

    The safest city in the country ? Someone is delusional…

    • 104 57andFemale
      August 24, 2012 at 11:57 am

      Then, Mr. Bloomberg, stop supporting and holding fundraisers for Republicans beholden to the NRA.

      However, not having to pay a single dime in tax on income made by doing NOTHING is far more important to you than gun violence.

  24. August 24, 2012 at 11:53 am

    This is huffpo/Maher, but it’s really a great take-down of the GOP’s magical thinking: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-maher/todd-akin-republicans_b_1826617.html

  25. August 24, 2012 at 11:55 am

    This is a fun infographic on how the Internet has changed in the last decade: http://infographicdirectory.wordpress.com/2012/08/22/the-internet-a-decade-later/

  26. 109 amk for obama
    August 24, 2012 at 12:04 pm

  27. 110 amk for obama
    August 24, 2012 at 12:09 pm

  28. August 24, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    Some good news from What is Working’s site: http://goo.gl/clZg1 C02 emissions down

  29. August 24, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    Hiya everyone, will be back asap, just getting some work done. Meanwhile, did you see this has gone viral?

    Wooooooooooot!!!!!

  30. 117 amk for obama
    August 24, 2012 at 12:25 pm

    • August 24, 2012 at 3:40 pm

      That’s not the question – that’s the answer. The Mormon Church requires 10 % tithe of “your income”. However, their definition of “income” differs from that of the IRS.

      That’s the point.

  31. 119 amk for obama
    August 24, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    Bingo.

  32. 120 utaustinliberal
    August 24, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    This is what Mitt Romney just said in response to a question from a birther in Michigan. People are outraged. Even reporters are tweeting how shocked they are that he would say this.

    What kind of an animal does this?

    • 121 hopefruit2
      August 24, 2012 at 12:36 pm

      When Sam Stein of HP is tweeting how surprised he is that Willard would do this, you know this is a huge deal.

      • August 24, 2012 at 12:42 pm

        Okay, I’m missing something here. What is the context and why is it a big deal?

        • 123 hopefruit2
          August 24, 2012 at 12:53 pm

          Mitt Romney just a concluded a stump speech in Commerce, MI. At the beginning of the speech he introduced himself by saying that he and his wife Ann were born in MI. Then he went on to say that no one is asking to see his and Miss Ann’s birth certificates because “Everybody knows that they were born and raised right here in MI.” That basically speaks to not only false accusations about PBO’s birth, but also accusations about his being raised in a foreign country, and his being un-American.

          • 124 nathkatun7
            August 24, 2012 at 4:47 pm

            My response to Mitt Romney: “No one ever asked Presidential candidate George Romney (your father) his birth certificate although he was actually (not speculatively) born in a foreign country- Mexico. We know the reason why Willard: it was because he is WHITE!”

  33. 125 dotster3
    August 24, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    Romney goes birther

  34. 126 amk for obama
    August 24, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    • August 24, 2012 at 3:43 pm

      Let’s say he just read it from his teleprompter ….

    • 128 nathkatun7
      August 24, 2012 at 4:52 pm

      Excellent responseAMK! These media people are scum. I wish they would come out and openly declare their allegiance to Willard Romney instead of conning the public that they are professional news reporters.

  35. 129 amk for obama
    August 24, 2012 at 12:35 pm

  36. 130 Claire
    August 24, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    That voucher word has a powerful effect. Yesterday I was visiting a relative who lives in a retirement community. We were in a community TV room that had tables for playing cards and other games. The room was pretty full and the tv was showing the local news. No one seemed to be paying much attention to the news until the newscaster mentioned ryan, medicare, and vouchers. Literally everyone stopped what they were doing and began booing and saying no vouchers! It was amazing.

  37. 134 utaustinliberal
    August 24, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    This is the video of the Romney birther remark.

  38. 141 joyfulmeme
    August 24, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    And this Jack Ass complains about unfair political discourse. Give me a break. http://t.co/sjpGuYgR

  39. August 24, 2012 at 12:42 pm

  40. 148 amk for obama
    August 24, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    • 149 nathkatun7
      August 24, 2012 at 4:59 pm

      As you said earlier, Amk, there was nothing funny about what Romney said? As far as I am concerned this was not a joke. This was a veiled message that the birthers are justified in challenging the President’s citizenship.

  41. 150 amk for obama
    August 24, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    Boom. Go Bob.

  42. 152 dotster3
    August 24, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    Willard is a low life. I don’t care how much money he managed to fleece from people and bankrupting companies. He is without a speck of decency. To now stir up the racist birther contingent, to stoke the hate and anger in his ignorant base, is beyond disgusting, as low as he can go. It’s unforgivable. He is without merit, without conscience.

  43. 153 dotster3
    August 24, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    Loud cheers from Willard’s racist crowd when he made the birther comment. Some in media are already trying to make excuses for such an outrageous comment, coming to Willard’s rescue once again.

  44. 154 utaustinliberal
    August 24, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    • 155 amk for obama
      August 24, 2012 at 12:57 pm

      They’re making the fucker toxic to the fucking indies (who need to be guided on every fucking thing)./

    • 156 ewok2
      August 24, 2012 at 1:00 pm

      Rich white privilege, just like Trump. They could say anything racists and get away with it.

  45. 157 jacquelineoboomer
    August 24, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    Friday’s good! Oh, I so enjoyed the campaign email, which sent out the “High Five” images of PBO. That’s it. No other words needed. Anybody who loves PBO only has to see his winning ways, captured in images, to be motivated to support him and get involved. Loved it!

    • 158 COS
      August 24, 2012 at 1:06 pm

      When I saw it Jacqueline, I could not wait to donate. 🙂

      • 159 jacquelineoboomer
        August 24, 2012 at 1:46 pm

        Yes, COS, no cajoling needed! We have got to keep PBO and his VP around for four more years. They’re the only rays of sunshine in politics!!!! Oh, and, a few other Dems, of course, like Nancy Smash. 🙂

  46. 160 utaustinliberal
    August 24, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    If you haven’t seen the Romney birther video, Andrea Mitchell will play it. Jen Psaki Obama 2012 communications person will also be on the show.

  47. 161 ChristiMTL
    August 24, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    He’s actually laughing about it…..people are a little touchy about racism

    Scumbag

    ehe @jimacostacnn a little touchy about the Birth Certificate issue are they?

  48. 163 dotster3
    August 24, 2012 at 1:00 pm

  49. 165 Rita
    August 24, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    Did you all see this? http://twitter.com/jaketapper

    “Jake Tapper ‏@jaketapper
    Romney at Michigan rally: “No ones ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know where I was born and raised.”

    I am so mad right now! If anyone had any doubts about who’s running a dirty campaign! Romney has no morals, no values, and heck, no backbone. Scum of the earth!!

    • 166 COS
      August 24, 2012 at 1:11 pm

      I am SEEING STARS right now. I did not know that this vile excuse for a human being could sink so low, just to win an election. There should be no more questions as to why 0% of AAs won’t vote for him. He is scum.

  50. 167 hopefruit2
    August 24, 2012 at 1:05 pm

  51. 168 dotster3
    August 24, 2012 at 1:06 pm

    Is there nothing that is too outrageous for the whole Willard/rt.wing posse, anything that is too low? These people are crazy, the whole lot of them.

  52. 169 hopefruit2
    August 24, 2012 at 1:07 pm

  53. 170 dotster3
    August 24, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    There’s Halperin making excuses for Willard, as usual. It was just a funny racist, birther joke, you guys. Move along.

    • 171 Nena20409
      August 24, 2012 at 1:15 pm

      Once again….I say it and I am saying it again. 98% of the media are Caucasians. They would always excuse Romney for just about anything. Remember earlier in NH/ME one of Romney’s sons made a birther Joke. Then White Sox Owner employed an ad man that was going to go racial. Then 5 ads by Romney on Welfare with a White man. These people know exactly what they are doing. Nothing is done by accident. Birtherism, racism and bigotry is all Romney is going for.

      Bobfr, amk, UTaustiliberal, Chipssticks, Hopefruit, etc please don’t let the media term this as a joke. It is not a joke. I am sick of the media covering for Romney No matter what.

  54. 172 whatisworking
    August 24, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    So – Romney went there, just shows how desperate he is.

    Haven’t had a chance to comment much lately. School started and OFA is busier everyday.

    This is a perfect opportunity to use titter to push out the president’s achievements. As we send out Twitter responses to Romney’s comments tuck in a positive about PBO

    ie

    Romney makes birther joke PBO shares vision for middle class families and fights to extend life of Medicare

    As I rite this example I know the Twitter folks can do better, but this may help get the ball rolling. Utahliberal and Bobfr, please share your gems so the clueless like me can retweet.

    • 173 amk for obama
      August 24, 2012 at 1:16 pm

  55. 174 Claire
    August 24, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    willard and trump both ignorant, racist birthers.

  56. 175 amk for obama
    August 24, 2012 at 1:13 pm

  57. 176 Janelle
    August 24, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    Okay, I’ve been taking a break in lurk mode for the most part but I’m truly beyond upset at the media right now. And if anyone has a reason to boycott MSM, particularly CNN, now is the time. There is no excuse for covering for Romney on this one……NONE! There is no 4th estate and they are single handedly turning the discourse into a cess pool because of not doing their jobs. I have total contempt for the press corps….they make me literally sick.

    • 177 Rita
      August 24, 2012 at 1:23 pm

      Janelle, I see your point, but I’m actually glad that they did, because we, and moderate, sane America, saw what a horrible person Mitt Romney is. I’m hoping this will sway a lot of undecided voters to President Obama!

    • 178 Janelle
      August 24, 2012 at 1:23 pm

      P.S. If can’t even sneeze without it being scutinized but ‘good ole boy’ Mitt was just joking…..Romney says this stuff because he think he can get away with it without accountability every time. The media is just as racist as Mitt is, I’m certain of that.

      • 179 Janelle
        August 24, 2012 at 1:25 pm

        “PBO” can’t even sneeze….see, I’m too hot mad to type. I’m going to go back to lurking status before I blow a gasket—-I just want to slap some of these “reporters”—starting with Jim Acosta and ending with Tapper and Knoller.

  58. 181 utaustinliberal
    August 24, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    • 182 lisalovesobama
      August 24, 2012 at 3:23 pm

      why are those in the media lying about Willard’s crowd size? there’s no way in hell he has “thousands” of supporters in one place, together at the same time.

  59. 183 Rita
    August 24, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    I say we DO NOT give the media and the GOP and Mitt a pass on this. Please TODers what can we do to RAISE HELL? Ideas? I know about fighting back on twitterverse, but what other options? I’m requesting all you seasoned people to list your ideas…

  60. August 24, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    Well, Mitt may be claiming he wasn’t telling a joke – but he was definitely telling another LIE. Lots of people HAVE asked to see his birth certificate in the past few months. I’ve seen lots of comments on the web about it and his heritage. So once again, he’s unfunny and a liar.


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