114 Responses to “Mitt’s Medicare whiteboard – corrected”

  1. 1 Proud Former White House Intern
    August 16, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    That is freighting

  2. 7 Dudette
    August 16, 2012 at 7:29 pm


  3. August 16, 2012 at 7:30 pm

  4. 11 hopefruit2
    August 16, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    I’m watching PBO and FLOTUS interview on ET right now on CBS.

    • 12 hopefruit2
      August 16, 2012 at 7:36 pm

      Of course ET is milking this interview by dragging it out over as many days as humanly, technically and practically possible. We now have to wait until Monday to hear about the First Couple’s romance, etc.. I will be tuning in on Monday for sure.

    • 15 Ladyhawke
      August 16, 2012 at 7:37 pm

      Thanks for the reminder HF. I just caught the tail end but it was delicious. The host certainly teased the segment that will air on Monday.

    • August 16, 2012 at 7:37 pm

      How are they doing?

      • 17 hopefruit2
        August 16, 2012 at 7:43 pm

        They did well as expected. ET is saving the best for Monday just to ensure another night of ratings. Gotta have something to look forward to on a Sunday night, right?

  5. 18 Dudette
    August 16, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    New one from Moveon.org

    • 19 cookemom
      August 16, 2012 at 7:34 pm

      thanks for the instructions on the last thread

      • 20 cookemom
        August 16, 2012 at 7:36 pm

        oh, how to you paste in the browser? sorry for the lack of innertubz cyberspace defective reasoning on my part. Old dog willing to learn new tricks, just can’t get the brain cell to cooperate.

        • 21 Dudette
          August 16, 2012 at 7:41 pm

          Cm, that was hopefruit that posted the instructions in the previous thread. 🙂

          Actually, I do it slightly differently to avoid including unnecessary stuff that might appear in the URL. What I do is this:

          When you play a video on Youtube, there’s a button labeled “Share” just below the video. Click that button and it opens up a little box with the direct URL for embedding the video. In fact it’s already selected when you click the button so you just click Copy (or CTRL+C) and then paste it here in your comment. Voila!

          • 22 cookemom
            August 16, 2012 at 9:19 pm

            yep, you’re right it was HF on the last thread. See, that’s what I mean by that one brain cell giving me problems. Thanks for your direction as well.

    • August 16, 2012 at 7:38 pm

  6. 24 Ladyhawke
    August 16, 2012 at 7:32 pm


    14 reasons why this is the worst Congress ever

    By Ezra Klein


    This week, the House of Representatives voted to repeal the Affordable Care Act. On its own, such a vote would be unremarkable. Republicans control the House, they oppose President Obama’s health reform law, and so they voted to get rid of it.

    But here’s the punchline: This was the 33rd time they voted to repeal the Affordable Care Act.

    Holding that vote once makes sense. Republicans had promised that much during the 2010 campaign. But 33 times? If doing the same thing twice and expecting a different result makes you insane, what does doing the same thing 33 times and expecting a different result make you?

    Well, it makes you the 112th Congress.

    Hating on Congress is a beloved American tradition. Hence Mark Twain’s old joke, “Reader, suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.” But the 112th Congress is no ordinary congress. It’s a very bad, no good, terrible Congress. It is, in fact, one of the very worst congresses we have ever had. Here, I’ll prove it:



  7. August 16, 2012 at 7:33 pm


    thanks for the great coverage of the Iowa trip

  8. 27 Tally
    August 16, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    AND ….. The Medicare D donut hole is CLOSED under President Obama, and comes back to what it was under #CryBabyRomney.

  9. 32 Claire
    August 16, 2012 at 7:39 pm

    Love the OFA board!

  10. August 16, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    Governor Wilder again, really pushing for Hillary.
    He always comes out of the Woodwork when talk of replacing Biden.
    This guy is just like Artur Davis, in fact, if the RNC asked him to speak- he would be there!

    • 35 hopefruit2
      August 16, 2012 at 7:56 pm

      All this anti-Biden narrative and calls for his replacement in the GOPmedia tells me that VP Biden’s campaign speeches the last couple days were HIGHLY effective. That was the same tactic used when the Bain stories first broke out. The MSM used every damn trick in the book to discredit and undermine the Bain attacks – even deploying Bill Clinton and Cory Booker to “defend” Mitt.

      Today Tweety had two hacks (Halperin and POLITICO guy with the perpetual slurp) to talk about VP Biden as if that was an issue of concern, when they should have been discussing Paul Ryan’s LIES about his stimulus requests, and/or Romney’s unreleased taxes. The media is scared of Biden and they see him as an extremely valuable asset to the Obama campaign. That’s where all of this nonsense is coming from.

      Bottom Line: Biden is not going anywhere. He’s here to stay and he’s going to EVISCERATE Ryan at the debate in October.

      • 36 Zekke Lydonna
        August 16, 2012 at 8:40 pm

        Honest to God, I want to ‘smack’ arthur davis (Black Republican) and Gov Doug Wilder (anit-Biden). I understand davis. However, Wilder is anti Biden and has been calling for Obama to get rid of him in favor of Hillary. Hillary for Prez people saw an opportunity, and are trying to take advantage. Wilder can kiss my ass.

      • 37 Lovepolitics2008
        August 16, 2012 at 9:02 pm

        BINGO about the effectiveness of Joe BIden’s speeches. The question is where all this hoopla about Hillary comes from. Probably from the GOP at first. They jumped on the “chain” metaphor and created a faux outrage. And as usual the media fell for it..

        And may I say that I’m sick. to. death. of this conventional wisdom about Joe Biden being some kind of fool. He is GREAT. Brillant, knowledgeable, honest, and a hell of a campaigner.

        Despite all the opinions of the Clintonites, in my opinion, Joe Biden is more effective with seniors and blue collar workers than Hillary would be. ( I respect Hillary’s talents though.)

        The only upside of this “conversation” about Joe is that it will lower expectations for the debate with Ryan. Joe is going to surprise people. Garanteed. He just has to study the Ryan’s budget, and prepare some talking points to make Ryan look like an ideologue, who despite his ability to play with numbers, is totally, tragically WRONG. And he doesn’t have a clue about what are the REAL consequences of his nutty ideas. I mean… name me ONE example in history when giving more and more money to the wealthiest has created a stable and prosperous society ?? There’s none. Enormous inequality lead to stagnant, enslaved societies and/or sanglant revolutions.

        • 38 hopefruit2
          August 16, 2012 at 9:33 pm

          Actually I believe that this is the very reason they’re going after VP Biden biden now – the intention is to undermine him going into the debates. The GOP and MSM fear that Biden will wipe the floor with, and humiliate the crap out of Ryan before millions of viewers all over the planet.

        • August 17, 2012 at 1:25 pm

          I LOVE Vice President Joe Biden!!!

      • 40 jackiegrumbacher
        August 16, 2012 at 9:25 pm

        Once again, you nailed it HF. They’re terrified of Biden’s ability to connect with people and so they have to smash him and also deflect attention away from their own terrible VP choice.

  11. 41 edwina3
    August 16, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    Reid and Co. seem to have effectively backed Romney into a corner: if he doesn’t release taxes, it would look like there was credence to Reid’s assertions. If he did release taxes, it would look like he allowed Harry Reid, the phenomenally unpopular Senate majority leader, to boss him around. For now, Romney appears to have located a third, compromise-y solution: he won’t release his tax returns, but he’ll tell us about them, drip of information by drip of information. It’s like a 19th century serial!

    Next week: were Romney’s tax returns passionately embracing the neighbor’s stablehand behind the apothecary?


    • 42 hopefruit2
      August 16, 2012 at 7:49 pm

      Unfortunately for mitt, that third solution won’t work for long. The Obama camp AND Harry Reid continue insisting that Romney must release his returns to support his claims that he paid “13% taxes.”

    • 43 Zekke Lydonna
      August 16, 2012 at 8:43 pm

      Fuck this too. Harry Reid is NO ‘phenomenally’ unpopular.

      • August 16, 2012 at 9:45 pm

        Thank you Zekke….gawd, “they” throw out these labels and NO ONE calls them on their statement. Who said Harry Reid is phenomenally unpopular, who?….douches..

      • August 16, 2012 at 10:02 pm

        “Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader who is phenomenally unpopular with REPUBLICANS,…”

        There. Fixed that for ya.

  12. 46 vitaminlover
    August 16, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    Willard should go back to Etch-A-Sketch. He is the ‘go backwards’ candidate after all.

  13. August 16, 2012 at 7:46 pm

  14. 49 Ladyhawke
    August 16, 2012 at 7:52 pm


    Rep. Paul Ryan’s voting record reflects a GOP foot soldier

    He’s with the leadership on issues – abortion, taxes, gay rights – that define the partisan divide.

    By Lisa Mascaro, Washington Bureau


    WASHINGTON — As Rep.Paul D. Ryan begins to campaign as the presumed Republican vice presidential nominee, one aspect of his political career will be with him always: his votes.

    After nearly 14 years in Congress, the Wisconsin representative has amassed a record on many of the critical issues that have come to define the country’s partisan divide.

    Overall, Ryan’s votes define him as a loyal GOP foot soldier — one who has sided with party leaders even in cases in which some other small-government conservatives have refused to do so.

    In crucial moments near the end ofGeorge W. Bush’s presidency, for example, when the White House pleaded with Congress for a bank bailout plan to save free-falling financial markets, Ryan joined the effort to pass the Troubled Asset Relief Program. Dozens of Republicans did not. Ryan also joined in passing the auto industry bailout in late 2008, in the lame-duck session before the new Congress.

    He voted in 2003 for Bush’s proposal for a new Medicare prescription drug benefit, in a vote that saw more than dozen defectors within the party. Some conservatives, at the time and since, have criticized Medicare Part D as a costly government expansion.

    That pattern continued as Ryan rose in the ranks of the House, becoming Budget Committee chairman. Early in this Congress, when some of his fellow Republicans threatened to shut down the government as one of the first acts of the new House GOP majority in 2011, Ryan voted for the budget deal to keep the government running.



  15. 50 Ladyhawke
    August 16, 2012 at 7:55 pm


  16. August 16, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    What would you wager that the MSM considers R-money’s tax returns “case closed?”

    I hope I’m wrong, but I’m not holding my breath.

  17. 57 Dudette
    August 16, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    This Is The Gentlest Response To Politics I’ve Ever Seen
    Found here: http://www.upworthy.com/this-is-the-gentlest-response-to-politics-ive-ever-seen

    “PBS asked a voter what’s most important to him this election season, and his answer is one of the gentlest and most touching I’ve yet seen. I think this side of politics is easy to forget, but important to remember: It’s not just about this guy versus that guy. It’s about people, and what we can do together.”

  18. 59 Ladyhawke
    August 16, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    Six Revelations From Michael Grunwald’s ‘The New New Deal’

    Michael Grunwald’s ‘The New New Deal’ will change how you look at President Obama’s stimulus forever. Matthew Zeitlin finds the six biggest revelations.


    Although the presidential election is now in full swing, one piece of legislation is hardly mentioned: the stimulus. The $787 billion piece of legislation, passed soon after Obama took office was both gargantuan in size and in how much it tried to do. The legislation was supposed to arrest the massive economic contraction and keep unemployment down, while setting the foundation for the Obama administration’s ideas on how to transform America’s transportation, energy, and education policies. And yet, with unemployment still above 8 percent, the stimulus is widely seen by many Democrats as too small and only marginally effective, while Republicans portray it as a complete boondoggle that is a symbol of everything wrong with the Obama administration. Into the breach—and just in time for the last few laps of the general election—steps Michael Grunwald, a national correspondent for Time, with his new doorstop of a book, The New New Deal. Grunwald tells the story of the stimulus from Obama’s meetings with his economic team before the election all the way to the stimulus’s still-ongoing projects today. The book is not only a comprehensive chronicle of what’s in the bill and what it’s done, but it’s also full of revelations of how the bill was written, passed, and then implemented. Here are some of the biggest scoops:



  19. 60 dotster3
    August 16, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    • August 16, 2012 at 8:12 pm

      Chips, this is very important information for anyone in PA, please consider highlighting it. Thank you.

      Voter ID

      Applying For a Birth Certificate For Voter ID

      In conjunction with Act 18 of 2012, Pennsylvania citizens may request a birth certificate for Voter ID. The certificate will be issued free of charge. In order to receive a certificate, each requestor must complete the Voter ID birth certificate application form and mail it to one of the below public offices. Individuals may also apply in person at one of the public offices during normal business hours.

      New Castle

      You may also visit any PennDOT drivers license center to apply for a non-drivers license photo ID from PennDOT. For further information visit votesPA.com – New Voter ID Law.

      Frequently Asked Questions:

      If I don’t have acceptable photo identification, can I still obtain a birth certificate? Yes, you must follow a simple set of instructions in order to obtain a birth certificate.

  20. August 16, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    I hope that corrected chalkboard is used by the Obama campaign to get the truth out about Romney’s medicare lie! Come on, Obama. Get the truth out there. Hit back against the Romney lies. Romney is trying to tell so many lies that people get confused about the truth.

  21. 67 hopefruit2
    August 16, 2012 at 8:18 pm

  22. August 16, 2012 at 8:21 pm

  23. 70 dotster3
    August 16, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    FOX is worried that your doggy or kitty is registered to vote. They’re issuing warnings about this voter fraud, which doesn’t exist, to stir up support for Voter ID.

  24. August 16, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    As someone who worked the Polls on Tuesday in Florida I can report that Republicans were disenfranchised too. I hate this law here. It is very hard to tell a senior that they have to go home and get their ID. We are talking those who CANNOT drive and had a family member to carry them back and forth from the polls.

  25. 72 Ladyhawke
    August 16, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    Romney the Unknowable



    At the convention, you can expect to hear high praise for a virtuous, disciplined, loyal person of family and faith. You will surely hear the words “turnaround” and “no apology” — both titles of platitudinous and unread books by Romney — in defense of his business acumen and unshakable view of American exceptionalism.

    But I doubt you will hear anything of the real Romney because he is afraid of his own past. His life — even with prep school privilege in Bloomfield Hills, the draft-avoiding refuges of mission work in Paris and business school at Harvard, a founding role at Bain Capital from a mentor who guaranteed he would never fail financially or professionally — is not without drama.

    Yet that Romney story is laden with land mines of his making. Or rather, that of his party, which has turned so quickly against common-sense solutions to the nation’s problems that Romney’s real achievements, and prior principles, are now toxic to most Republicans.
    With Paul Ryan on the ticket, Romney becomes ever more hollow in comparison to the younger man of a cold-hearted-but-consistent philosophy.

    A few weeks ago, Brian Williams of NBC News asked Romney if he was “unknowable to us.” Great question. Romney chuckled, that nervous stage laugh, and said voters will likely wait until the debates to discern his character. Fat chance. Better to chase fireflies with a thimble, for the true Romney is a phantom — lost long ago to reinventions and calculations.



  26. 73 utaustinliberal
    August 16, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    I LOOOOOOOVE our team. Showing Mitt how a whiteboard is really used. Thanks Chips!

  27. 75 Dudette
    August 16, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    Another reminder of the great leader, Commander-in-Chief, that we’re fighting to keep in office
    President Obama marked the 50th anniversary of the Vietnam War at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington

  28. 76 dotster3
    August 16, 2012 at 8:26 pm

  29. 77 Dudette
    August 16, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    Margaret and Helen: Two Wrongs Make a Right Wing Republican Ticket

  30. August 16, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    Late Friday, 11 August 2012, I tweeted:

    Today 🙂

  31. 79 utaustinliberal
    August 16, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    This has been going around on twitter. A way to counter the horrible voter suppression laws in PA. Spread it around and lets help Pres. Obama win PA again. 😀

    • 80 isonprize
      August 16, 2012 at 8:56 pm

      You don’t need photo ID to get the birth certificate, And you need the birth cert to get the photo ID. You need photo ID to vote.

      Tell me, boys and girls, which of these sentence DOESN’T belong.

      /snark off. There is no way this whole process isn’t a POLL TAX. Plus, note that if you already paid the $10 for your birth certificate, you can apply to get a refund. WOW, just wow.

      Now there are election officials saying that they will not enforce the new law.

      Election day in Pennsylvania is going to a doozy!!!

      • 81 jackiegrumbacher
        August 16, 2012 at 9:58 pm

        This free birth certificate is only if you were born in PA. If you were born in another state, you pay and then wait for it to arrive. Really, even the Commonwealth judge suggested people use the absentee ballot. Applications are available on line. If you are registered to vote, you only need your SS number. If you are not registered, filled out a registration form using your SS number. You will get a card saying you’re registered. Then, in October apply for your absentee ballot. You will get a ballot in the mail with two days to fill it out. And your vote will be counted on ELECTION DAY. This is the best as safest way to make sure you vote. Do not encourage anyone to go the provisional ballot route. That is madness. Filling the application is NOT a high hurdle. It’s simple.

  32. 82 xtine
    August 16, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    Dear Duke & Duchess of LaJollaShire, where art thy 1998-2011 taxes?

  33. 86 Dudette
    August 16, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    We’re NASA and We Know It (Mars Curiosity)

    Get funky wit it – unh!!! 🙂

  34. August 16, 2012 at 8:34 pm

  35. 89 jacquelineoboomer
    August 16, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    I almost posted that Mitt will probably use “chalk on a sidewalk” next, but it reminded me of the old song that goes something like, “Chalk on the sidewalk, writing on the wall, everybody knows it, I love Paul,” and that made me gag, whether or not Mitt actually loves Paul. Truthfully, if he even likes Paul, I’m gaggin’.

  36. August 16, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    re: MSM considering Romney vs. tax returns closed. (Noticed that others posted tweets on previous thread re: all three networks’ lead stories tonight were R-money, paying 13% taxes for a decade).


    Even reporters sympathetic to Dems like Michael Scherer at Time have been sucked into the GOP mindset (that saying you’ve done something equals proof that you’ve done it):

    • 91 isonprize
      August 16, 2012 at 8:44 pm

      Myth never says *FEDERAL* taxes. Not once.

    • August 16, 2012 at 8:47 pm

      • August 16, 2012 at 8:49 pm

        • 94 Ladyhawke
          August 16, 2012 at 9:01 pm


          Mitt Romney’s first campaign ad against President Obama was a lie and he has been lying constantly ever since then. Why in the world would anyone believe anything he has to say about anything let alone his taxes. And Paul Ryan is a perfect VP running mate. He has been lying like crazy since the announcement on Saturday. He has fuzzy memory about requesting stimulus funds while criticizing President Obama. Imagine that. Meanwhile he is the wonky deficit hawk chairman of the budget committee but he hasn’t run the numbers on his budget yet. Liar Liar Pants On Fire. As Harry Reid would say poppycock.

      • 95 amk for obama
        August 16, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    • 96 Claire
      August 16, 2012 at 8:52 pm

      Chris Cillizza should be smacked in the head for writing that ridiculous article in the wapo.

  37. 97 nospin
    August 16, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    A must see from Soledad O’Brien

    She fact checked all the folks who came on her show spouting Republican lies on Medicare.


  38. 100 Dudette
    August 16, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    Mitt Romney Tells Elmo to Get a Job and Pledges to Kill PBS

    In an interview with Fortune, Mitt Romney admitted that one of the ways he will reduce government spending is to cut all funding for PBS. Romney was asked by Fortune where he would cut government spending, and he answered, “There are three major areas I have focused on for reduction in spending. These are in many cases reductions which become larger and larger over time. So first there are programs I would eliminate. Obamacare being one of them but also various subsidy programs — the Amtrak subsidy, the PBS subsidy, the subsidy for the National Endowment for the Arts, the National Endowment for the Humanities. Some of these things, like those endowment efforts and PBS I very much appreciate and like what they do in many cases, but I just think they have to strand (sic) on their own rather than receiving money borrowed from other countries, as our government does on their behalf.”

    Mitt Romney was essentially telling Elmo and the rest of Sesame Street to stop being a bunch of bums and get a job. Mitt Romney’s vision for America includes the death of Amtrak, slashed funding for the arts and humanities, and a privatized PBS.

    If you want to know what PBS would like without government funding turn on A&E, History Channel, or the ever oxymoronic Learning Channel. These networks have been long held up by Republicans as the private sector alternative to PBS, but look at the programming that these channels actually contain. Would Sesame Street be replaced with Pawn Stars? Instead of Antiques Roadshow, how about Storage Wars? Replace Downton Abbey with Toddlers and Tiaras… [more in the article]

  39. 101 Dudette
    August 16, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    Beer Battered Mitt: How Obama is Using Beer to Defeat Romney

    • 102 4morefor44
      August 16, 2012 at 9:07 pm

      too funny! remember when the same mainstream media people we’re fighting today used the “guy you’d want to have a beer with” nonsense with bush junior? the internet wasn’t as advanced then and we couldn’t fight back against their lies, but things have changed, haven’t they? now our president brews his own beer, and he’s running against a guy who has never had alcohol and his sidekick who drinks $350 bottles of wine at an average lunch. guess they won’t be able to use the one they did with bush anymore! ha!

  40. 104 Ladyhawke
    August 16, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    Rachel Maddow opening segment is on the stimulus. Looks like it’s going to be great. I feel some reporting on hypocrisy coming real soon. There it is…….

    • 105 Ladyhawke
      August 16, 2012 at 9:11 pm


      Oh this is great. Rachel is ripping Paul Ryan to shreds. Yesterday she took him down for his unhinged and deranged votes against women’s reproductive rights. Today she is pulling back the curtain on his lying about not asking for stimulus money. Paul Ryan is as big a liar as Mitt Romney. They are two peas in a pod.

  41. 106 lisalovesobama
    August 16, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    Gerald Casalie? (sp)? the guy who did the dog video the ‘Don’t Rack Me Bro’ (?)— the video posted earlier today? he said he “absolutely” isn’t as enthused about PBO now compared to 4 years ago. he said the choice between PBO and Willard is a choice between “Pepsi and coke with a little leeway.” he also said that the president is the “lesser of two evils” because he has more humanity than R-money and his backdoor lover Ryan. He said PBO isn’t a mean guy. um……….. thanks Mr. Haz Been Loser.

    • 107 EDP4BHO
      August 16, 2012 at 9:05 pm

      I was wondering who else had seen that. Hell with the little twerp- he took Ed by surprise, though.

      • 108 lisalovesobama
        August 16, 2012 at 9:07 pm

        yup! Ed definitely wasn’t expecting that. Definitely glad I didn’t watch the video. Asshat! He can take that vid and stick it where the sun don’t shine.

        • 109 EDP4BHO
          August 16, 2012 at 9:16 pm

          🙂 Lisa, you know I feel you’re my kindred potty-mouth sister, right? Fuck him and I did not look at his stupid video either. I really don’t care for all this circus atmosphere surrounding this campaign. PBO is too decent for it. And I am much too old.

          • 110 lisalovesobama
            August 16, 2012 at 9:21 pm

            Amen!! Hearing the crap Willard and his favorite gal pal Ryan spew outta their asses is more than enough for me.

  42. 112 hopefruit2
    August 16, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    Axelrod is on Piers right now, and he’s not having any BS.

  43. August 16, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    Yay! I turn on Rachel and She heard us all. Proof Ryan is a liar on stimulus funds.

  44. 114 idon
    August 17, 2012 at 3:57 am

    Y’all his name is LYIN MITT and his running mate is the blue eyed devil. I call the pair L2D2 for liars and deceivers. I’m gonna tweet lyin mitt and ask him to release his taxes for the past years. Rachel Maddow had an awesome opening segment on LYIN MITT’s “you’re going to have to take my word for it” http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#48697395 – listen very very carefully to what he says when asked about his taxes. It is very Nixonian. Nixon also was alleged to have committed tax fraud.

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