This and That


Coffee Connection, Knoxville

Knoxville, Iowa, August 14





4:30: VP Biden delivers remarks at Spiller Elementary School, Wytheville, Va.

5:00: President Obama delivers remarks at B.R. Miller Middle School in Marshalltown, Iowa

8:45: President Obama delivers remarks at the Waterloo Center for the Arts in Waterloo, Iowa

109 Responses to “This and That”

  1. 1 cookemom
    August 14, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    yoo hoo it’s me…..

  2. 12 Ladyhawke
    August 14, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    Paul Ryan’s Fairy-Tale Budget Plan

    Published: August 13, 2012


    Mr. Ryan showed his conservative mettle in 2008 when he folded like a lawn chair on the auto bailout and the Wall Street bailout. But the greater hypocrisy is his phony “plan” to solve the entitlements mess by deferring changes to social insurance by at least a decade.

    The Ryan Plan boils down to a fetish for cutting the top marginal income-tax rate for “job creators” — i.e. the superwealthy — to 25 percent and paying for it with an as-yet-undisclosed plan to broaden the tax base. Of the $1 trillion in so-called tax expenditures that the plan would attack, the vast majority would come from slashing popular tax breaks for employer-provided health insurance, mortgage interest, 401(k) accounts, state and local taxes, charitable giving and the like, not to mention low rates on capital gains and dividends. The crony capitalists of K Street already own more than enough Republican votes to stop that train before it leaves the station.

    In short, Mr. Ryan’s plan is devoid of credible math or hard policy choices. And it couldn’t pass even if Republicans were to take the presidency and both houses of Congress. Mr. Romney and Mr. Ryan have no plan to take on Wall Street, the Fed, the military-industrial complex, social insurance or the nation’s fiscal calamity and no plan to revive capitalist prosperity — just empty sermons.



  3. 14 yardarm756
    August 14, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    A belated Birthday Greeting to you Admiral Chips. May you live as long as you want to;and want to as long as you live…:-D

  4. 19 vcprezofan2
    August 14, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    /Grumble…grumble. Mutter…mutter / I wish Chips would wait until I catch up on a thread BEFORE posting a new one! 🙄

  5. 20 Ladyhawke
    August 14, 2012 at 2:58 pm


    By Jared Bernstein


    She’s always worked for the government, but a lot of her friends in the private sector who provided the same kind help for retirees are no longer around. And yet, despite her continued effectiveness relative to her private counterparts, some people want to take her out of the public sector and turn her guarantee of help for all comers into a risky bet on the stock market.



  6. 21 Ladyhawke
    August 14, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    Pelosi Statement on 77th Anniversary of Social Security


    “With the creation of Social Security 77 years ago, our nation made a commitment to the dignity and retirement security of America’s seniors. Social Security provides Americans with a guaranteed lifetime benefit that is protected against inflation, earned with a lifetime of hard work. And today, as we do every day, Democrats reaffirm our commitment to Social Security and the promise to strengthen it for future generations.

    “On the other side of the aisle, Republicans continue in their relentless efforts to slash Social Security benefits and undermine our seniors’ economic security. Congressman Paul Ryan has proposed privatizing Social Security and wrote the Republican budget that ends Medicare as we know it and shifts costs to seniors.

    “Democrats will always stand strong for Social Security, for Medicare, and for our nation’s seniors.”



  7. August 14, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    thanks Chips, for covering POTUS’ trips

  8. August 14, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    HIYA Chips!!

    Some more this and that…

    • 25 isonprize
      August 14, 2012 at 3:18 pm

      OK, ‘fess up. Which TODer was that?? She was too cute!!

      “He’s really good looking in person and he smells really good too!”

      ‘fess up. I just KNOW she was TODer, but who?

      • 26 Cha
        August 14, 2012 at 5:50 pm

        I know, right! She spoke for all of us! “Smeils good” “AWESOME” “I could have fainted”! Yeah, PObama is courageous, intelligent, dompassionate, awesome sense of humor and he’s Adorable!

    • 28 anniebella
      August 14, 2012 at 4:41 pm

      I would love to meet that woman, she was so funny. Oh I could have fainted, he smells real good.

  9. August 14, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    The Robney Camp just denounced the Vice President, for what he said earlier, the “Chains” comment.
    I actually thought it was funny.

  10. August 14, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    I had to cut my daily listen of Rush by 50% today, because I couldn’t handle his ego! He said he’s not going to the Republican National Convention because he’s too famous. Blech. Change the station after a mere 10 seconds.

    Rush has to be secretly rooting for PBO to win four more years, no matter what anti-PBO drivel he spouts on the air. PBO is Rush’s meal ticket – what else would he fill all those hours complaining about? Same with the entire Fox News network. Heck, they all probably donate to his campaign fund! 😆

  11. 43 whatisworking
    August 14, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    I went to see how CBS was dealing with the Ryan pick and found these stories.

    Fact-checking the Romney-Ryan “60 Minutes” interview

    Biden: Ryan adds definition to Romney’s vague commitments

    Why the fuss over Paul Ryan’s Medicare plan?

    Does the Romney-Ryan lack of foreign policy experience matter?

  12. August 14, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    OFA response to Robney Camp-

    From the Obama campaign: “For months, Speaker Boehner, Congressman Ryan, and other Republicans have called for the ‘unshackling’ of the private sector from regulations that protect Americans from risky financial deals and other reckless behavior that crashed our economy. Since then, the Vice President has often used a similar metaphor to describe the need to ‘unshackle’ the middle class. Today’s comments were a derivative of those remarks, describing the devastating impact letting Wall Street write its own rules again would have on middle class families. We find the Romney campaign’s outrage over the Vice President’s comments today hypocritical, particularly in light of their own candidate’s stump speech questioning the President’s patriotism. Now, let’s return to that ‘substantive’ debate Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan promised 72 hours ago, but quickly abandoned.”

    LOL! Jiffy pop popcorn all around.

  13. August 14, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    I agree with the coffee shop sign: Coffee is ALWAYS more than just coffee. I say this as a coffee nazi.

    • 53 isonprize
      August 14, 2012 at 3:23 pm

      LL, growing up, my older sister worked in a coffee shop that sold whole beans, would grind it to your liking, etc. (way before Starbucks…) So, I’ve been drinking good coffee since I was a teenager. A good cup of coffee is divine!

      • August 14, 2012 at 3:24 pm

        I’ve tried to get into tea, but it just doesn’t have that delicious flavor of coffee. I don’t have a cup in the morning and I’m a grouch.

        • 55 57andFemale
          August 14, 2012 at 4:28 pm

          I’m a serious coffee snob as well. Worked in a coffee shop in my late teens, and then again in my 20’s. And that was a long time ago……

  14. 56 Carol
    August 14, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    A lot of people that meet him say he smells good!

  15. August 14, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    Please forgive, but I will not let this core issue drop ….

  16. August 14, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    #RyanRomney …. a reminder …

  17. 62 57andFemale
    August 14, 2012 at 3:38 pm

  18. August 14, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    Anyone hear Assley said Obama shut down the Bud Tent for five hours and cost the man something like $50,000? Is any of that even remotely true?!? He was tweeting up a storm last night and I noticed people were asking about it on the Bud’s FB page.

  19. 72 betseyc
    August 14, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    Happy birthday, Chips! Sorry I missed the party last night. 21! Wow! Great number to donate in your honor! Too bad you’re not older! ;))

  20. 73 LaDLove
    August 14, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    To tangent just for a moment: I LOVE THIS SITE! Before joining the TODers, I had never made a political campaign contribution, blogged or tweeted. PBO was a game changer in my political connection..but TOD gave me a home. Thanks for luring me out of the shadows.

  21. August 14, 2012 at 3:47 pm

  22. 78 xtine
    August 14, 2012 at 3:50 pm


    While greeting patrons outside the coffee shop, the President was asked about the White House homebrew by a man in the crowd, a campaign aide said. After the President described the beer, the fellow requested a bottle.

    The President “sent out to Ground Force One and gave him one,” the aide said.


    Mr. Obama during the beery meet n’ greet also wrote a note for a woman who was late to work, but the guy who got the Presidential homebrew had the better prize.


  23. 80 Ladyhawke
    August 14, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    How Reporters Are Letting Romney Get Away With His Plans to Massively Cut Medicare

    By Jonathan Cohn


    The proposals Romney has made so far would, with virtual certainty, require cuts to Medicare. These cuts would likely be larger, and possibly much larger, than the cuts in the Affordable Care Act—yes, the very same cuts that Romney keeps attacking Obama for enacting.

    As far as I can tell, pundits and reporters are not holding the Romney campaign accountable for this. Nor are they demanding Romney explain how he’d possibly drain Medicare of so much money without causing harm to seniors. I’m not trying to beat up on the press here. Romney has been cagey about this part of his agenda, describing his Medicare plan only in broad brushstrokes and vowing, at every turn, to “save” Medicare for seniors. And the selection of Paul Ryan as a running mate has actually muddled things more, since Ryan’s latest budget proposal happens to have less severe cuts to Medicare.

    But Romney’s designs for Medicare become crystal-clear if you look at his agenda as a whole. Yes, you also have to keep some numbers in your head. But I think I can keep it to just two. Let’s give it a shot, shall we?



  24. 81 Ladyhawke
    August 14, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    Breaking new ground in Chutzpah Politics

    BY Steve Benen


    What’s remarkable is just how spectacularly dishonest Romney is. It’s like he heard about an award that goes to the lyingest liar who ever lied in the history of liars, and Romney’s so eager to win the award that he’s becoming a parody of himself.

    Reality is actually quite simple. Republicans argue that Medicare savings are necessary for the health of the program, and Obama found such savings, without touching Medicare benefits, and while strengthening the financial health of the system. The savings are so sensible, they’re part of Paul Ryan’s Republican budget plan — which Romney has endorsed.

    Think about that for a second. Romney’s truly pathetic attack ad goes after Obama for a policy that Republicans, including Romney’s own running mate, have adopted.



  25. 82 xtine
    August 14, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    [I thought he spoke Spanish?]

    Romney had an appearance at a Miami juice shop (owned by a convicted drug dealer) later in the day and the host told the GOP candidate, “They’re waiting for you with a mamey and a guayaba — Cuban fruits — here in Miami, do you like those?”

    “I am a big fan of mango, papaya, and guava,” Romney said.
    The hosts chuckled and added, “There are mangos there too.”
    We’re not sure if the host and translator laughed with Romney in his moment of candor, at the fact that he added mango and papaya to the list, or that the latter is Cuban slang for “vagina.”

    But either way, it was a lighthearted moment for the candidate. We enjoyed it. And we’ll also give Romney pass on the “papaya” thing; after all he doesn’t speak Spanish.


  26. 84 edwina3
    August 14, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    Hell has officially frozen over, Fox news accurately fact-checks the Ryan budget:

    Top News Story on Google News, here is the Headline from Fox:
    Fact Check: Ryan budget plan doesn’t actually slash the budget

    “Most damning part of this: Tax revenue *increases*, budget grows, deficit stays, AND the wealthy get huge tax cuts. Who is giving more to the government under the Ryan plan again? Oh right… the poor and middle class. ”


  27. 85 Linda
    August 14, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    Karen Finney had on Two Republicans and one Democrat to talk ( lie ) about the Medicare cuts……As usual….she let them filibuster and lie…

    She could not even articulate what the Obama cuts actually do. or where they come from. I am soooooooooooooooo sick of these pundits not knowing the details of ANYTHING.

    We are more informed than they are.

    • 86 anniebella
      August 14, 2012 at 4:17 pm

      I said yesterday that Finley was good as a guest, but host, she stinks. Have Martin left for good?

      • 87 Linda
        August 14, 2012 at 4:20 pm

        I don’t know what is up with Martin….

        But I agree….she is a better guest….so was Chris Hayes and MHP…better as guests than hosts.

        I shot off a very angry e-mail to the show….. If someone does not know the truth…she sure did nothing to clarify….

  28. August 14, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    PBO stayed at a Holiday Inn near the airport while in Des Moines: http://www.kcci.com/news/central-iowa/Obama-spends-night-in-DM-on-Iowa-tour/-/9357080/16105338/-/rk0s8mz/-/index.html. I’d heard that he always stays at the same hotel that he’s liked since campaigning here in 2007, even though there are plenty of ritzy, expensive hotels around Des Moines.

  29. August 14, 2012 at 4:17 pm

  30. August 14, 2012 at 4:20 pm

    Jack caffeety just said that the Republicans are more engaged at the Rallies. He said, 1 rally last week in NC, they had 15k.
    While I find this hard to believe, I am wondering when the President will have a College Rally, with tens of thousands?
    If not now, when?

  31. 103 utaustinliberal
    August 14, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    Romney is such a bloody hypocrite but luckily the Obama team and twitter isn’t letting him get away with it. I love our side. We fight lies with facts.

  32. 104 JER
    August 14, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    Stream is up for President Obama’s Marshalltown, Iowa event. Music playing: http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=1

  33. 105 vcprezofan2
    August 14, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    Joe is on C-Span right now. Is this a previous speech?


  34. August 14, 2012 at 4:30 pm

  35. 109 utaustinliberal
    August 14, 2012 at 4:33 pm

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