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Rise and Shine

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Tuesday: The President will attend meetings at the White House and two campaign events at the W Hotel in Washington DC.

Wednesday: Will travel to Denver and Grand Junction, Colorado for campaign events.

Thursday: Will travel to Pueblo and Colorado Springs, Colorado for campaign events.

Friday: Will attend meetings at the White House.

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Eugene Robinson: Mitt Romney’s defiant secrecy about his personal finances looks like a cross Republicans will have to bear all the way to Election Day. To put it mildly, the burden seems to chafe.

Apoplexy is not the tone politicians generally seek to project. Yet there was GOP chief Reince Priebus on ABC’s “This Week,” calling Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid a “dirty liar” for his claim about how little Romney may have paid in taxes….

It was a coordinated Sunday morning display of righteous indignation …. But in making such a show of denouncing Dirty Harry’s foul calumny, all Republicans succeeded in doing was draw attention to Romney’s stubborn refusal to release more than a year’s worth of tax returns ….

Reid was a boxer in his youth, and what he did to Romney was the equivalent of a head butt. ….If he is being as cynical and mendacious as Republicans charge, Romney could demolish the majority leader’s credibility — and put the whole issue to rest — with a single phone call instructing his accountant to release the returns….

…. The fact that he won’t — even when continued secrecy clearly hurts the campaign, if only by diverting attention from other issues Romney would rather be talking about — clearly means there’s something embarrassing, inappropriate or just plain ugly in there.

You don’t need a secret source to tell you that. Common sense will do.

Full article here

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David Firestone (NYT): For the last four years, Republican lawmakers around the country have diligently tried to eliminate early-voting periods, which give people a chance to vote at their convenience. The reason is simple: early voting was wildly popular in 2008 – comprising a third of the vote – and many of the people who took advantage of it voted for Barack Obama.

More than half of Florida’s early voters in 2008 were Democrats, and many black voters went right from their church pews to the ballot box on the Sunday before Election Day. That’s why the state’s Republicans severely restricted the practice last year, and specifically banned voting on that final Sunday. Similar restrictions were also passed in Georgia, Tennessee, West Virginia, and Ohio, part of a movement to restrict voting that includes tough voter ID requirements.

Now, the Obama campaign’s attempt to fight the measure in Ohio has led to one of the lower moments of this year’s presidential campaign. The state legislature cut back on the early voting period, and banned it in the three days prior to Election Day. (Even though 93,000 Ohioans voted in those three days in 2008.) An exception, however, was made for military personnel, who tend to lean Republican.

The Obama campaign and the Ohio Democratic Party filed a lawsuit last month in federal court, saying the practice violated the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment. The lawsuit asked the court to restore to everyone the right to vote in the last three days.

Then, in an extraordinary lie, Mr. Romney issued a statement Saturday turning the lawsuit around to accuse Democrats of trying to end early voting for the military….The lawsuit does nothing of the kind…..

Full post here

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Morning everyone


201 Responses to “Rise and Shine”


  1. 3 LOL
    August 7, 2012 at 8:03 am

    Romney camp still hasn’t said if vets, firefighters, and cops deserve an extra three days to vote in Ohio

    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/mitt_romney_military_voting_ohio_lawsuit.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

  2. August 7, 2012 at 8:07 am

    Eugene writes great Articles, but he sure does not talk about them on the tv Box!

    • 6 hopefruit2
      August 7, 2012 at 8:10 am

      All this hemming and hawing reflects the strong dissonance he experiences about what he really would like to say (and knows to be the truth) vs. what his corporate masters have instructed him to say at Bain_Mitt’s behest.

        • 8 vcprezofan2
          August 7, 2012 at 9:33 am

          Morning to you also, Mr. Jovie! Congrats on your ‘team’ collecting so many registrations recently; keep on trekking! (Does that expression still work? 😉 )

      • 9 vcprezofan2
        August 7, 2012 at 9:31 am

        Ah, Hf, so that’s the explanation! I wondered on the couple of occasions in the past when I TRIED to listen to him on RMS. I never could compute how this bumbling, fumbling writer had won a Pulitzer, so I started muting him while discounting in my mind the value of a Pulitzer.

        A happy Tuesday to you, Ms Hopefruit. 😆

        • 10 hopefruit2
          August 7, 2012 at 11:27 am

          Thank you Lady vc and the same to you too!!

        • 11 Obama Grandmama
          August 7, 2012 at 1:14 pm

          The Pulitzer was for writing not speaking.

          • 12 Obama Grandmama
            August 7, 2012 at 1:16 pm

            They should just use his articles in clips showing what he said instead of using him as a guest expert speaker.

          • 13 vcprezofan2
            August 7, 2012 at 7:23 pm

            I understood that, but foolishly thought it you can put thoughts together for writing, you should be able to, once in a while, verbalize those thoughts coherently. Eugene never seemed able so I turned him off early. A pet peeve of mine is having to listen to people who fumble insincerely or SPEAKERS who READ to me.

      • August 7, 2012 at 10:39 am

        He has been like that for years. He has a stutter.

      • 15 cookemom
        August 7, 2012 at 12:16 pm

        He , like my grandson has a stuttering issue. If you don’t know for a fact that it’s a result of a different reason, then this should not be part of your discourse. I have read this before on this site. The man is a very well accomplished journalist. You don’t agree with his views or opinions fine, but I’m appalled, and not just because of my personal experience, at the venomous nature of the disagreements. This is the type of stuff I read on right wing sites and it’s really uncalled for. I reply to you, but this is meant to any and everyone who would use this man’s obvious disability to make a political hand-wringing, sky is falling, over the top MSM derangement statement.

        • 16 hopefruit2
          August 7, 2012 at 12:35 pm

          I’m sorry cookemom, and with all due respect, but this really has nothing to do with your grandson’s stuttering issue. Eugene Robinson is a highly paid corporate media figure, and if he’s not up to the job, he should not be doing it. PERIOD.

          As I’ve stated before, whether or not I agree with his opinions, he is very articulate in his written columns, and he should stick to what he excels at. He’s NOT helping our cause when he goes on those cable shows and allows Morning Joke, et al to walk over him and push their RW memes while he spends five minutes trying to find the right words to say. Furthermore, it’s not even so much his stuttering that’s the issue, but his seeming timidness to forcefully articulate his views on a particular issue and push back on false narratives about PBO. Often times, I’ve seen him concur with and even repeat the RW memes du jour when he’s in the company of Fineman/Tweety/Morning Joe, et al, but write something totally different in his columns. Hence my comment about the dissonance.

          • 17 cookemom
            August 7, 2012 at 1:03 pm

            I don’t care how much he’s paid or what his political leanings are when it comes to what he’s accomplished with the disadvantage of having a speech impediment. He is a role model to my grandson, who I point to as being able to rise above any stuttering issue. You say it has nothing to so with my grandson, but yet you say the reason he Eugene sounds like he does is because of not what he says, but how he says it. These are your words: “All this hemming and hawing reflects…”. I didn’t get the impression you were referring to his equivocating on a subject, but rather using his stuttering as some kind of reason to not trust what he says. Then someone chimed in with comments like ‘bumbling, fumbling’. Can you honestly say that this kind of thinking has nothing to do with someone who stutters, when it is apparent that Eugene stuttering issue is being used to describe him negatively, rather than his opinion. Please, it’s not the first time I’ve read these type comments here. Believe me, these type comments aren’t the first, and won’t be the last I’ve had to explain this attitude to my grandson or people who say them. This has nothing to do with politics it has to do with being sensitive to issues bigger than the poutrage of the moment.

            • 18 hopefruit2
              August 7, 2012 at 1:41 pm

              Again, you are distorting the issue at hand and going off on a tangent. Jovie initially raised the point of Mr. Robinson saying one thing in his column and something completely different on cable TV, and I expanded on it by giving my interpretation of what might be going on and why he sounds the way he does, where his mind is leaning towards one thing, but he’s instructed to say something different – which is dissonance, and not because of a speech impediment (even if he does have one).

              Stuttering does NOT prevent one from pushing back against half-truths and lies. Stuttering does not prevent one from telling the truth. There are many people who stutter when they speak (including Mitt Romney, Barack Obama, James Carville, David Axelrod, etc), but they are able to get their points across (whether I agree with them or not) and not let people walk over them.

              And by the way, this is not the first time you’ve accused me (and others) on this very site of having “Media Derangement Syndrome” whatever the hell that is – so I’m aware as I read your comments exactly where you’re coming from.

              • 19 cookemom
                August 7, 2012 at 2:19 pm

                I didn’t respond to Jovie cause that comment was an opinion on what Eugene said, or rather didn’t say, not how (the manner)he said it. I responded to you cause you used words descriptive of how he talks. Again, my response to you has nothing to do with Eugene’s politics, his appearances on tv, nor whether he’s pleasing to you or anyone else. If you’re still of a mind that, “I expanded on it by giving my interpretation of what might be going on and WHY he sounds the way he does”, you’re still saying that you are discounting that the ‘why’ may be because of a speech impediment. The reason people who stutter sound as they do is not because they are experiencing some conflicting ideas bouncing around in their heads. The ‘why’ is because some neurological wiring prevents them for getting those well formulated ideas out via a normal speech pattern. So disagree with his well formulated ideas, but you don’t have a clue as to ‘why’ they’re expressed in the manner that they are.

                I don’t care how you view his politics and I never said to just go along with him because he stutters, but I think you know that. I’m objecting to your seeming to cast his delivery of his comments as proof that his view is not to be trusted.

                This will probably not be the last time I make the MSM derangement syndrome. There are many times when it gets over the top to me. The energy expended on voluntarily watching/listening to a media that is known, proven, and verifiably able to cause a nail biting, teeth gnashing response makes me smh. Why watch it? Why watch it, then bring it here for everyone else to go thrashing and gnashing? It’s deflating and serves no purpose. Yes, sometimes it gets to me and I say something. Other times, it gets to me and I just scroll and roll. I’ll have to try that more often, I suppose….sigh

                • 20 hopefruit2
                  August 7, 2012 at 3:08 pm

                  As I said, I will continue to criticize Robinson’s TV media delivery as I see fit, without being subject to nasty innuendos and false accusations of being insensitive to “disabled” people or people with “speech impediments.”

                  If Chipsticks feels that I am in any way shape or form of disservice to her blog, she has a right to make that determination, and I will be fully respectful of and in compliance with her wishes as the owner of this blog.

                  And I will go on to say that the media is not a benign entity to be simply ignored. It is a well-funded, well-coordinated and extremely influential industry that needs to be checked.

                  Because of the media we’ve had an unnecessary war in Iraq, a disastrous 8 yrs of Bush presidency, a Teabag congress in 2010, a stalled economic recovery due to Republican enabling, and many, many other ills that I won’t even begin to address here.

                  These are REAL consequences that have real implications for people’s lives. And currently, the MSM has assigned itself the role of Mitt Romney’s protector and defender. There is a reason that WH communications director Dan Pfeiffer got into it with Mark Knoller the other day. To dismiss the media as just another useless distraction is very misguided.

                  But as responsible citizens, with a very important election just around the corner, it is everyone’s responsibility to contribute in any way they can. Volunteering, canvassing, phonebanking, recruiting, registering, donating, fundraising, disseminating accurate information and yes, pushing back against and correcting false MSM memes are all part of the effort to help PBO get re-elected.

    • 21 dotster3
      August 7, 2012 at 8:40 am

      They all get on Morning Jerk and try to please him instead of telling truths. They try so hard not to offend Scarborough, even Obama supporters. Desperate to please the bully. They all throw Joke a bone so as to keep the appearance invitations coming. It’s not pretty to watch.

      • 22 Bill
        August 7, 2012 at 8:49 am

        So true, dotster. Jeffrey Sachs was one regular guest who would tell Joe he had no idea what he was talking about. I do not believe he has been on the show in months.

  3. 23 hopefruit2
    August 7, 2012 at 8:08 am

    G’morning Chips, TOD and everyone. Happy Tuesday! 🙂

  4. August 7, 2012 at 8:08 am

    Good morning! It’s primary day in Michigan, so if you’re here, be sure to vote for good progressives to send to DC to help our President! Go Trevor!

  5. August 7, 2012 at 8:09 am

    Romneyhood is a total winner as far as sounbites/bumperstickers go. Me likey likey 😆

    • August 7, 2012 at 9:17 am

      Romneyhood rocks.

      I’m waiting for all you folks with photoshop to get us some good visuals 🙂

    • 27 utaustinliberal
      August 7, 2012 at 9:25 am

      It really is perfect. You can use it in so many ways on twitter and in the media. I duff my hat to Pres. Obama for coining that phrase.

    • 28 0388jojothecat
      August 7, 2012 at 10:20 am

      I still think that Chipsticks should photoshop Robme in a green robin hood outfit green tights and all…. 🙂 🙂 🙂

  6. August 7, 2012 at 8:10 am

    Ouch, David Firestone goes there. He calls Mitt lie a lie. Congrats LOL on first. Good morning Chips, Good morning all.

  7. 30 Melanie
    August 7, 2012 at 8:11 am

    CNN just really sucks right now. Wonder if they’re going to get it back together in time to provide proper election coverage.
    http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/08/cnn-mistake-to-air-punjab-map-for-haley-131227.html?hp=r11

  8. 31 LOL
    August 7, 2012 at 8:14 am

    The Romney camp are a bunch of amateurs….Jeez Louise. It reminds of the gimmicky team McCain had. From suspending the campaign to arguing over what “pig on a lipstick” meant to the creme de la creme- picking Caribou Barbie.

    In a span of one month, the Romney team has gone from “You didn’t build that” to “Disenfranchising Military Votes” and now ” The President is gutting welfare reform Clinton enacted”

    There is no clear direction, just one gimmick after the other. Pathetic.

    • 32 vcprezofan2
      August 7, 2012 at 9:49 am

      I take issue with your saying ‘There is no clear direction’, LOL. You missed it. 😉 😉 😉 GOP strategy direction = ‘If you throw enough mud against the wall some of it will stick. In the case of PBO even if only a little bit sticks the MSM will help us frame it to the nation.’ Problem for them is that not many people are being fooled by their mud or their framing of it, and they seem not to have a backup plan.

    • August 7, 2012 at 11:11 am

      I’ve been shaking my head for weeks every time I hear people talking about how “disciplined” the Romney camp is supposed to be, and how shocked they are at his gaffes (I think it started during the Foreign Policy trip – or even during the GOP primaries). They may want to compare this loser campaign to the awesome discipline of the Obama campaign – and it just doesn’t work. Romney may be stiff and boring with his habits of no wine, no cheese on his pizza, etc. But, that doesn’t translate to a disciplined campaign. As soon as a candidate starts lying the way Romney has been doing, you lose all discipline. And he lost all discipline doubly so when he decided to hang out with alleged criminals like Trump, Adelson and the Koch brothers.

  9. 34 hopefruit2
    August 7, 2012 at 8:23 am

    Tampa Bay Times has an article which claims that Romney’s “robust grassroots campaign” had opened 40 offices in the state of FL and was planning to open many more. The article states this: // This year the Mitt Romney campaign and Republican National Committee are touting an energized base and a formidable ground operation in must-win Florida.// The article is linked on the previous thread.

    Here’s my response:

    HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! What a joke. Notice that it’s always some media outlet (now it’s the Tampa Bay Times no doubt) that is reporting about Romney’s so-called grass roots campaign, when they provide absolutely ZERO Evidence of the ludicrous claims they make?

    1. They state that Romney has 40 “victory offices” in FL, yet they don’t provide a single address or phone number for any of those offices. Instead they list all PBO’s new office addresses/phone numbers. I thought the article was about Romney’s extensive grassroots campaign and 40 offices?!?!?!? HAHAHAHAHA….

    2. They claim that “On “Super Saturday” last weekend, REPUBLICANS SAY volunteers made more than a quarter million voter contacts in Florida by phone and knocked on more than 30,000 doors.” HAHAHAHAHAHA. Where are the first hand accounts of this activity? Where are the first-hand tweets or reports from volunteers? Where are the pictures of the phonebankers or canvassers? When OFA is engaged, we SEE and HEAR evidence all the time from people who are actually engaged in the process. We see tweets with pictures directly from PBO’s and DWS’s accounts about the grassroots campaigns all the time. We don’t see ANYTHING From Romney or his surrogates’ accounts about ANY grassroots campaigns and believe me, I check Romney’s Twitter TL quite regularly, most recently before I posted this comment.

    3. The Romney “grassroots” campaign is a corporate-funded system of HIGHLY PAID executives, who control the media airways (and that increasingly includes the Internet, Internet search engines like Google, social media sites like Twitter, etc), fund robocalls, and chain emails and printed letters spreading LIES about OBama and appealing to people’s racial and xenophobic fears. This article by the Tampa Bay times about Romney’s non-existent 40 FL “grassroots” offices is a clear example of this corporate-funded system of dishonest reporting to help Mitt Romney and make him seem on par with President Obama.

  10. 43 Ladyhawke
    August 7, 2012 at 8:27 am

    How Mitt’s Tax Returns Show His Character Defect

    by Michael Tomasky

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    What earthly power can make Mitt Romney release his tax returns? None whatsoever. Incredible as it may seem, it’s true: He can go all the way to November 6 without giving an inch, and there’s not one thing anyone can do about it. He pretty obviously thinks that the heat he’s taking for sitting on the returns is more bearable than the heat he’d have to endure by releasing them. And that calculation says something astonishing about the man, and ultimately, that is the issue here—this is far more about Romney’s character than it is about the money per se. And character is very quickly becoming the issue that the Obama camp hadn’t even planned on exploiting but now must, because Romney’s lack of it has become so obvious.
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    Hiding his tax returns is bad enough. But also hidden are the names of his bundlers, certain Salt Lake Olympic records, and records from his tenure as governor. That’s roughly … oh, his entire career. It’s bad enough that he thinks he can make it to the White House in this fashion. But it’s worse that he wants to. Someone running for the presidency should be happy to share that information, especially when it’s your own father who blazed this particular trail in the first place.

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    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/07/michael-tomasky-how-mitt-s-tax-return-show-his-character-defect.html

    • 44 cookemom
      August 7, 2012 at 8:45 am

      You gotta figure whatever it is, hurts someone else more than him. It’s a short leap from his records right to figuring out Anne’s and the sons’/grandkids’, and the church’s. I think he’s protecting them from the scrutiny as well as being too arrogant to have taken care of it before now. Btw, where is McIWillBeOnAnyAndEveryTalkShowOnAnyAndEverySundayMorningForTheRestOfMyLife? He knows what’s in them thar papers and he knows that’ll be one of the first questions he’s asked. Someone in his campaign, a fellow higher-upper Mormon, or disgruntled family member has leaked something to Reid.

  11. 46 dotster3
    August 7, 2012 at 8:29 am

    I see Willard’s new ad is trying to stir up the hate again—–Obama’s gutting welfare reform!—-Welfare checks for all the lazies!
    Everything about Willard and his campaign is dishonest and beneath contempt.

    • 47 FiredUpInCa
      August 7, 2012 at 9:36 am

      One of my favorite features of this campaign is two of the most fearless, smartest and prepared people on planet earth, Stephanie Cutter and Rachel Maddow, call Massachusetts home.

      Mendacious, multiple choice Mitt can run, but he can’t hide from this rapid response tag team.

  12. 48 hopefruit2
    August 7, 2012 at 8:32 am

    • 49 FiredUpInCa
      August 7, 2012 at 9:42 am

      It’s fun to watch how infantile the right becomes when they are on the losing side of an issue? The far right can insinuate about the President’s birth certificate all day long and even pass legislation requiring it to get on the ballot. None of them were required by the handwringIng media to produce theirs.

    • 50 Obama Grandmama
      August 7, 2012 at 1:34 pm

      Question-
      Are Senators required to release their taxes?

      I heard on the Ed radio show this morning that someone on his tv show mentioned McCain only releasing 2 yrs worth of taxes when he ran for Prez. Ed said they did not realize McCain had already released multiple yrs worth as a Senator.

  13. August 7, 2012 at 8:34 am

    Up and at ’em Os!!!! Another great getting up day on planet TOD!!!!! The shows this morning compare the fundraising between Mittfit and PBO only by the total amounts raised in July. What they do not mention is the number of contributors and the number of new donors that have joined the O train. those new donors equate to enthusiasm and new voters. IMO, that’s the variable that don’t make it to the polls as well.

    My political take today is we can do this. ObamaCares is becoming more and more popular and is gaining in favorability. All those Pub moms taking their kids in for back to school physicals/wellness check-ups will be without co-pay. Many Pub women will be getting themselves and their daughters the women services and check-ups without co-pay as well. I don’t think many forget that come election day, even though they may tell hubby and the local teabutts differently.

  14. August 7, 2012 at 8:38 am

  15. August 7, 2012 at 8:40 am

    The Probes are talking to each other-

  16. 54 dotster3
    August 7, 2012 at 8:52 am

    Morning Joke and Crew are just wasting a whole segment singing Palin’s praises—–she’s the greatest thing since sliced bread, all agree! The RNC convention NEEDS HER! they all said. She’ll BURN THE HOUSE DOWN!, really stir up the base! (with her hateful, sarcastic, dishonest rhetoric). And very telling—-Mika started to issue a very feeble, as usual, disagreement—-and Joke yells at her!—–you were doing great sitting there silently and now you wrecked it by starting to protest! What a complete farce this show is—–and it gets referenced on so many other political/news sites!!!??? as if there were a kernal of worthwhile truthful material there to pass along.

    • 55 Bill
      August 7, 2012 at 9:22 am

      Last week the half term governor said Elizabeth Warren was a Marxist. The Tundra Twit has no idea who Karl Marx was, but making such a statement and then be given any credibility on a national news show indicates how worthless the discussion is on Morning Joe.

    • August 7, 2012 at 9:39 am

      It’s a farce, not worthwhile, worthless, not truthful. So why do people watch it every freakin’ day?

    • 57 99ts
      August 7, 2012 at 10:07 am

      They seem to forget very quickly the results of Palin’s rhetoric which are still happening around the country. Add to that – in her latest appearance she looks emancipated and ill. I think these folks are working for PBO – the last person Mitt wants at the convention is the half term quitter.

      • 58 0388jojothecat
        August 7, 2012 at 10:37 am

        I wish some reporter would stick a mic in her face and ask her what is Marxism and the difference between that and Democracy? and see her stumble and bumble a lame word salad answer.

    • August 7, 2012 at 11:53 am

      Didn’t morning joke write an editorial dissing palin back in 2010? Why, here is it… telling GOP to “man up” and confront Sarah Palin.

      http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/45687.html

  17. 61 vcprezofan2
    August 7, 2012 at 8:58 am

    Good Morning, TODville! I see you have risen and are shining brightly already. Have a Terrific, and empowering, Tuesday, everyone! 😆

  18. 62 Bill
    August 7, 2012 at 9:00 am

    Nia-Malika Henderson of the Washington Post just told Bill Press she thinks Marco Rubio is the future of the Republican Party. She is either not very astute or the Republican Party has a very limited future.

    • 63 Ladyhawke
      August 7, 2012 at 9:08 am

      Tell it Bill. I have never been impressed with Nia-Malika Henderson’s political analysis. Most of the time she just seems wishy washy and not very original in her thinking. I find her cautious and incredibly boring. So the Marco Rubio nonsense does not surprise me at all.

      By the way, for sharp political analysis you can’t beat Krystal Ball, Karen Finney and Joy Ann Reid. They are terrific. I am always glad to see them on the cable shows.

      • 64 HZ
        August 7, 2012 at 10:43 am

        Yes, love these ladies. They are intelligent, lovely on the eyes, and they are very strong politically with their commentary. They do homework on the issues and are not afraid to speak the truth. Love them.

        I really wish that these three could have “The Trio Speaks.” Krystal, Karen and Joy Ann. They know the facts on the issues and they are supporters of POB’s record. I love to watch them state the facts and not backing down to the host of the shows that are are appearing on.HZ

    • 65 japa21
      August 7, 2012 at 9:20 am

      What she said is that Republicans look at him to be the future of the party.

    • 68 anniebella
      August 7, 2012 at 11:07 am

      Maybe Nia-Malika have the hots for Rubio.

  19. 70 Ladyhawke
    August 7, 2012 at 9:00 am

    THIS REEKS OF SHEER DESPERATION

    The wrong Israeli metric for American presidents

    BY Steve Benen

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    Romney is desperately seeking support from Jewish voters, but in his desperation, he’s trying to play Jews for fools.

    What matters is not whether Obama takes a trip to Israel, but whether he and his administration have shown support for Israel. And according to Israeli Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Defense Ehud Barak, U.S.-Israeli relations are “extremely good, extremely deep and profound.” Barak added, “I should tell you honestly that this administration under President Obama is doing, in regard to our security, more than anything that I can remember in the past.”

    Something to keep in mind as Romney’s ad reaches the airwaves.

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    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/08/07/13161571-the-wrong-israeli-metric-for-american-presidents

  20. 71 desertflower
    August 7, 2012 at 9:26 am

    This! http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2012/08/keep-chuckin-those-facts-4

    Give the most useless website in the known universe this: they’re consistent. Once again, they have awarded a “pants on fire” award, in this case to Harry Reid, despite providing no evidence whatsoever that Reid lied. Here’s the problem:

    Many readers asked us to put Reid’s claim to the Truth-O-Meter. We conclude that Reid, despite repeating the claim on at least two occasions, has not produced any solid evidence it is true.

    This does not, in fact, constitute a “lie.” If it is, than Romney has told “pants on fire” lies about what he’s paid in taxes as well. And PolitiFact is double-pants-on-fire-with-an-additional-Pinocchio lying, since they haven’t provided the slightest evidence that Reid wasn’t told by someone that Romney hasn’t paid taxes. As always, PolitiFact simply doesn’t understand what facts and lies are, which is kind of a problem when you purport to be a fact-checker.

    If you want to say that Reid is engaging in dishonorable tactics, you can. For the reasons SEK and Jonathan Zasloff have stated, I don’t agree — Reid didn’t breach any actually existing standard of civility in American politics, and highlighting the embarrassing information that must be hidden in Romney’s past returns if Romney refuses to follow the existing norms and release them is Politics 101. A specific charge that can be refuted by releasing information that every other presidential candidate has released for decades isn’t McCarthyism. But all this is a matter of judgement; if PolitiFact wants to refuse to award Reid the David Broder Award for Adhering to Standards of Civility That Have Never Existed that’s fine. But it can’t call Reid a liar without providing some evidence that he’s actually lied.

    • 72 Obama Grandmama
      August 7, 2012 at 1:48 pm

      Fox’s unending claims for starting themes has been Someone in high authority has said, People say, It has been said, etc. etc. The GOP has quoted those so called facts over and over again. Another is the GOP has formed their own expert organizations paying so called experts to claim the opposite of most known experts case in point Climate Change arguments. These organizations are used by GOP and Fox for their so called news and expert siting.

  21. 73 utaustinliberal
    August 7, 2012 at 9:28 am

    • August 7, 2012 at 9:36 am

      • 75 hopefruit2
        August 7, 2012 at 9:53 am

        And we all know that his 2011 return is going to be thoroughly cleaned up, prettied up, and presented as the distraction that the Romney camp wants the MSM and everyone else to focus on. So the ’11 return is not representative either.

  22. 76 desertflower
    August 7, 2012 at 9:28 am

    Here is your Tuesday morning moment of “truth” brought to you by Ted, I shit my pants so I wouldn’t go to war, Nugent:

    – And finally, noted political expert Ted Nugent thinks “Obama represents everything bad about humanity and Romney pretty much all that is good. It is really that stark.”

    Was that good for you? HAHAHAHA

  23. 77 desertflower
    August 7, 2012 at 9:32 am

    I posted a similar piece last night…You have to read this to believe it.. Guess what? MITT EVEN LIES TO THE GOP!!!

    http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2012/08/06/investments-in-iran-china-morning-after-pill-continued-for-years-after-romney-promised-trust-would-sell-off-holdings/

  24. 79 Ladyhawke
    August 7, 2012 at 9:44 am

    THE MEDIA OBSESSION WITH THE UNEMPLOYMENT NUMBER METRIC

    The limited value of recent history

    By Steve Benen

    ——————————————–

    When pundits compare Obama’s economic record against every president since Truman, they’re making a fundamental mistake — no administration was forced to confront a crash of this magnitude since FDR. Comparing Obama to the last 11 presidents is, at its root, deeply misguided.

    Indeed, I don’t think the political world has fully come to grips with the severity of the crisis in late 2008. This wasn’t just another recession. It wasn’t just a cyclical downturn. It wasn’t a slowdown caused by interest rates or a dot-com bubble. It was an international breakdown of the global financial system — and it not only takes longer to recover from such a crash, the effects of the catastrophe linger.
    .
    .
    As I explained a while back, no president since FDR has won with an unemployment rate this high because no president since FDR has had to govern at a time of a global economic crisis like the Great Depression or the Great Recession.

    To draw comparisons without this context is to take an incomplete look at the facts.

    ———————————————-

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/08/07/13162190-the-limited-value-of-recent-history

    • 80 jackiegrumbacher
      August 7, 2012 at 9:52 am

      The media doesn’t tell the truth about this Great Recession because to do so would guarantee a massive Obama landslide. Steven Benen has been one of the few to relentlessly focus on the truth. Even the so-called Democratic leaning economists have failed to explain the magnitude of the task that PBO faced. He is without peer.

    • 82 Squarepeg
      August 7, 2012 at 11:21 am

      I hate to say this, but it’s because he’s black. It really is. 😦

    • August 7, 2012 at 12:07 pm

      Excellent article. The truth is – the President has performed exceptionally well, given the unprecedented obstruction he’s faced. The fact that he still wants to serve Americans as their President, and is still putting up a legitimate campaign when 43% of the country is supporting a complete loser of a candidate – it says everything about the integrity of the man. All these pundits who claim that the economy will be President Obama’s downfall, never seem to explain what the alternative is offering and they never, ever talk about what the President has managed to achieve already.

  25. 86 jackiegrumbacher
    August 7, 2012 at 9:49 am

    This is a crazy time in my corner of the PA world. I’m organizing a Latinos Para Obama rally in a park in the middle of the Latino neighborhoods in the city of Lebanon. This is a major voter registration effort and we’re having free food, soft drinks, music, games for children and a table hosted by a health care expert I located at a nearby college to answer questions about the ACHA. We’ll have speeches, translators, giveaways in the form of free tickets to a baseball game, dinner out and lots of other stuff. OFA has promised to provide a rousing speaker, so keeping my fingers crossed. (And no, it won’t be anyone we know). Organizing one of these things is like planning a wedding–having to think of everything from tables, chairs, coolers, banners, and port-a-potties. And, of course, the big issue is marketing. Got a great promo put together and now have to march it to store windows and bulletin boards around town. If you in the Lebanon PA area on August 25 from 11:00 am to 2:00 p.m., stop by and join in. Any ideas for fun stuff to do are welcome.

    • August 7, 2012 at 9:59 am

      Thank you Jackie for all your hard work.

    • August 7, 2012 at 10:02 am

      OMG, WOW, Jackie. That is absolutely amazing. I really wish I could be there to help you! I hope you’re able to enjoy the fruit of your extensive labor. Please let us know how it goes. I know you’ll be met with resounding success.

      • 90 jackiegrumbacher
        August 7, 2012 at 10:07 am

        I’ll give a report as soon as it’s over. I’m praying we’re not rained out. We have a rain date, but having to do this on another week will just about frazzle me. By the way, wish you could be here too.

    • 91 desertflower
      August 7, 2012 at 10:06 am

      Will be thinking of you! That’s so wonderful…so wonderful. The fruits of your labor of love will pay off! Please let us know how it goes:) Great job!!!!

    • 98 cookemom
      August 7, 2012 at 10:32 am

      Now that’s what I’m talking about! Feet on the street and organizing. Action always speak louder than words. Nothing better than putting words to deeds. This is a very good way to keep the MSM from frazzling the nerves and keeping it positive and growing. Love your get up and at ’em. Love this kind of post. Love what you’re doing. Thanks for sharing, I think I’ll spend some extra time at the OFA office tomorrow. You inspire me.

    • 99 dotster3
      August 7, 2012 at 10:32 am

      Great effort and plan! Thanks so much for all your work!

    • 100 hopefruit2
      August 7, 2012 at 10:46 am

      Thanks jackie for sharing with us the wonderful work you are doing with OFA 🙂 This sounds very exciting and uplifting. I’m sure your hard work of organizing will pay off and it will be a smashing success. All the best and congratulations!!!

      • 101 HZ
        August 7, 2012 at 11:43 am

        Jackie, thanks for sharing this. Oh, I wish that I could be there to help you. I love doing events like this and the great planning of an event like this.

        Did you think about trying to go to the places in the neighborhood and ask the businesses to donate items to give as favorites. Hardware stores or big stores who sell plants and vegetable seeds. People can take them home and plant them to help spreading vegetable gardens within the community. Take some red, white, blue ribbon (again donated from craft stores) and tie them around little small pottery pots with voting date, as a reminder.etc.

        House Seats: Can you get some House people from the districts who are Dems to come out and speak or hold down a game for the children. Jumping rope contest, dance contest for little ones(Give little flags for prizes with POB’s and Biden names attached.

        Have a tax table displayed with the chart of what POB’s tax calculator showing families how the taxes will affect their household. Have a person to present that at the table. Give out pens and pads. If you can get a person who is an accountant to man the table.

        Basketball hoops game with small basketballs with “Vote” for POB. Give out paper pennants with POB’s photo or OFA pins maybe could donate.

        Get donations from local markets for ice, healthy drinks, ice cream,, cups, and have children have contest on naming states. But have a message attached to the prize of an accomplishment of POB.

        Sack races: Give school supplies out(donated by a business) colorful writing pads, pencils, rulers, etc.

        Goodies from local bakeries:
        Tables decorated with colors of OFA with blown up photos of POTUS with major accomplishments of POB to hand out. College, medical, policemen/women, military(have large flags posted and maybe get a local family to man the table and talk about how POB has helped them.

        Reading Book Table: Get books from local bookstores that are donated. Someone to read to them and then give the books away with a typed list of what POB has done for them as children.
        Maybe 12 things and place them in the books.

        I better stop because I am taking up so much space., but Jackie, I hope the event will be sooooo amazing and I wish the very best for the event. Thanks so much. Love you,HZ

        • 102 jackiegrumbacher
          August 7, 2012 at 1:45 pm

          Jovie–These ideas are terrific. Will try them. I especially love the tax calculator and the accomplishments handout. Thanks so much!

        • 103 jackiegrumbacher
          August 7, 2012 at 4:35 pm

          HZ– I immediately implemented your calculator idea. Asked the head of the Student Dems at local college and he’ll man a table with the calculator. Great idea.

    • 104 Alycee (@jazziz2)
      August 7, 2012 at 11:06 am

      Wow! Wish I could be there. I love hearing of the energy and enthusiasm.

    • 105 TrumpDog
      August 7, 2012 at 11:39 am

    • 106 isonprize
      August 7, 2012 at 12:12 pm

      The little American flags to give to the kids. Face painting for the kids too. Let the kids draw Obama posters. (I always keep magic markers, masking tape, and poster paper, because there is usually a need for some kind of ‘directional signs’ at these type of events (restrooms that way, exit this way… etc.) Will you have sound tech people, or do you have to do that also? Just a few thoughts… Hope they help.

      • 107 jackiegrumbacher
        August 7, 2012 at 1:40 pm

        Thank you, Trump Dog!!!I

      • 108 jackiegrumbacher
        August 7, 2012 at 1:43 pm

        Isonprize–we’re interviewing sound people now. Got a line on a Democrat who will offers his services free–amps, plus microphone. We’ll supply the music. Great ideas for kids. We’ve got an inflatable bouncy machine for little kids, a “batters up” for the older kids, a balloon guy, lots of bubble stuff, but I really love the making posters idea.

  26. 109 JER
    August 7, 2012 at 9:52 am

  27. 110 hopefruit2
    August 7, 2012 at 9:56 am

  28. 114 desertflower
    August 7, 2012 at 10:09 am

    Isn’t this Gov Scott’s baby??????

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48542945/ns/business-us_business/?__utma=14933801.1546375846.1342403203.1344314700.1344348492.55&__utmb=14933801.1.10.1344348492&__utmc=14933801&__utmx=-&__utmz=14933801.1342403203.1.1.utmcsr=theobamadiary.com|utmccn=(referral)|utmcmd=referral|utmcct=/2012/07/15/no-pressure-willard/&__utmv=14933801.|8=Earned%20By=msnbc%7Ccover=112=Landing%20Content=Mixed=113=Landing%20Hostname=www.nbcnews.com=130=Visit%20Type%20to%20Content=Earned%20to%20Mixed=1&__utmk=142310706#.UCEhYvaPVBo

    Doctors at hospital chain giant performed unnecessary cardiac work, increasing profits
    Investigation into internal records reveals hospitals prioritized their bottom line

  29. 116 hopefruit2
    August 7, 2012 at 10:14 am

  30. 119 hopefruit2
    August 7, 2012 at 10:17 am

    Women’s BB Quarterfinals – Team USA now leading Canada in 4th quarter: 71 to 36

  31. 120 desertflower
    August 7, 2012 at 10:20 am

    http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-04-19/outsourcing/31366949_1_aegis-ravi-ruia-bpo-business

    MUMBAI: Diversified conglomerate Essar Group is considering a sale of its billiondollar business process outsourcing (BPO) company Aegis, after receiving non-binding offers from private equity giants. Bain Capital and Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co (KKR), among others, have been in discussions to buy out Aegis, which is the second largest independent back office firm after Genpact.

    snip/

    Essar, controlled by billionaire brothers Shashi and Ravi Ruia, has appointed Standard Chartered Bank as adviser to a possible sale of Aegis, which is tracking $1-billion revenue in the current fiscal. This could be the second such exit for the 43-year-old group – which started life as a construction player – in recent times after it sold interests in a mobile telephony joint venture with Vodafone.

    “Aegis is looking at various equity raising options, but has nothing specific to announce at this point in time. All options relating to recapitalizing our equity base are open,” said an Aegis spokesperson in response to an emailed query on the potential sale. Bain Capital declined to comment, while KKR could not be reached immediately.

  32. August 7, 2012 at 10:37 am

  33. 122 hopefruit2
    August 7, 2012 at 10:47 am

  34. 123 cookemom
    August 7, 2012 at 10:51 am

    Only 91 days til the election, don’t forget to place your order. Portion of all proceeds are donated to the Obama campaign. This is my #2 daughter’s designs and effort to raise enthusiasm among the younger voter. Browse her sight and order for your young PBO voters (free shipping)

    http://www.zenfulrevolutionapparel.com/

  35. 124 dotster3
    August 7, 2012 at 10:54 am

    Teaser trailer for the bin Laden movie, Zero Dark Thirty. Originally to be released in Oct., but after charges of being too political—-can’t have any truthful advantage for President Obama!—-now will not be released till Dec. But trailers will be airing everywhere before the election, reminding voters who was president when this thing went down, who kept his word about this action. Expected to be an Oscar nominee/winner.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/06/zero-dark-thirty-trailer-osama-bin-laden-kathryn-bigelow_n_1747746.html?utm_hp_ref=entertainment

    • August 7, 2012 at 11:00 am

      But, I was told that Bush got Bin Laden.

    • 126 utaustinliberal
      August 7, 2012 at 11:11 am

      I was bummed that the release date was pulled back but this is awesome. I want trailers airing on every freaking channel; rubbing the GOP’s noses in it and reminding a lot of voters – who sadly have electoral amnesia – who went after Bin Laden and successfully got him. And that guy most definitely wasn’t George W. Bush.

      • 127 hopefruit2
        August 7, 2012 at 11:17 am

        The movie promises to be good, but I’m still somewhat bemused by the fact that the President is not featured or mentioned in the movie at all. I find that kind of odd. Having said that, I’m hoping that his direction and influence in the coordination of the operation is at least implied in the movie, because if that’s not the case, then the movie is not giving an honest account of what happened.

      • 128 TrumpDog
        August 7, 2012 at 11:43 am

        I’m going back and forth right now with a winger suggesting that Pres Obama did nothing and that it was Bush’s intelligence that got OBL.
        I just keep saying how Obama gave the order, Bush didn’t.
        🙂

        • August 7, 2012 at 12:14 pm

          Your right winger is an idiot. Does he really think that if Bush had the intelligence to get OBL, he would have left that glory to President Obama? Really? The way Bush’s people paraded Sadam Hussein in front of cameras, looked in his mouth like he was an animal, televised the botched up hanging? Absolutely not.

    • 130 hopefruit2
      August 7, 2012 at 11:12 am

      The only problem I have with this film is that the President himself is NEVER featured or mentioned in the entire movie. I find that very difficult to reconcile – how can there be a movie about hunt for and capture of Bin Laden without featuring the President??????

      • 131 dotster3
        August 7, 2012 at 11:25 am

        Agree that is outrageous. They said he is never “seen” on screen. Does that mean he is never mentioned? I think this was probably purposeful because they wanted to avoid a “too political” charge and get the Oct. release date—–but, if so, that plan was a bust. Everything is political in this politically charged atmosphere.

        • 132 hopefruit2
          August 7, 2012 at 11:38 am

          The HP report linked to another article where in the last two paragraphs it says:

          // The makers of Zero Dark Thirty insist their film is a study of the unsung heroes who worked tirelessly behind the scenes to take down bin Laden, not a celebration of Obama’s decision…“There’s no political agenda in the film. Full stop. Period,” says Boal, a veteran journalist and war correspondent. “A lot of people are going to be surprised when they see the film. For example, the president is not depicted in the movie. He’s just not in the movie.” //

          http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/08/06/zero-dark-thirty-first-look/

          If that is accurate, it sounds like President Obama’s role is obliterated in the film. And that makes no sense to me. Even if they’re focusing on the “unsung heroes” as they claim, there should be an implied commander-in-chief presence at minimum. I will wait until it comes out to make an assessment, but if it completely omits the President so that someone wouldn’t know that PBO had any involvement just by watching the film, then it should be boycotted.

          • August 7, 2012 at 12:19 pm

            Why does giving the President his due credit have to be characterized as a “political agenda”? President Obama is the one who put the focus on finding OBL. He’s the one who gave the order. He’s the one who announced the results. He’s the one who managed the aftermath. He’s the one who took the risk. He’s also the one who ended the war in Iraq – which had nothing to do with 9/11. And he’s also the one who is taking the heat over the war in Afghanistan. How can it be a bad thing to give him credit? I won’t watch it – because it won’t be a true account if they don’t feature the President.

            • 134 veryslowwriter
              August 7, 2012 at 1:10 pm

              It’s certainly possible to make a movie about D-Day without mentioning Eisenhower, though he was the one who gave the order. Just so, I think a movie can be made about the Seal team that got Osama’s sorry ass without showing PBO. The fact that they’re moving the release back indicates that the movie makes the current administration look good.

              • 135 nathkatun7
                August 7, 2012 at 4:06 pm

                “It’s certainly possible to make a movie about D-Day without mentioning Eisenhower, though he was the one who gave the order”

                It’s possible but is it accurate? Has there ever been a movie about D-Day that ignored Eisenhower? It seems to me that you are setting up new criterion that those who give orders, and who ultimately responsible if the mission failed, should be ignored when discussing the success of the mission. Guess who would have taken most of the if the seal team failed to get “Osams’s sorry ass”: That would be President Obama. Yet you can make a movie about the success of getting Ossama binLaden and completely render President Obama’s role INVISIBLE. In my humble opinion, ever since President Obama was elected there’ve been a systematic effort, primarily in the media, to either obscure or completely ignore his role as President in all the successful decisions he has made. It’s no wonder a great many Americans think he has done nothing.

                • 136 veryslowwriter
                  August 7, 2012 at 5:35 pm

                  Really, I don’t think anyone said he was invisible. It’s a movie, not a documentary. If they wanted to hire an actor to play Obama, they could. Though it would look stupid. The President himself is not about to take a job acting in a Hollywood movie. I just think we don’t need to get upset until there’s an actual movie to criticize.

                  And yes, you can make a movie about D-Day that doesn’t feature General Eisenhower. Saving Private Ryan is one. And in the most famous d-day movie, The Longest Day, has General Eisenhower in a role so small if you blink, you miss him.

            • 137 Cha
              August 7, 2012 at 4:55 pm

              Very Well Stated, theo. It’s ridiculous to not include President Obama. And, then to succumb to pressure to not release it in Oct because “it’s too poliitcal”! HELLO! If it doesn’t include PObama then how is it political? HMMMMMMM?

              It’s like the writers, producers, are being POLITICAL by not being accurate about HISTORY.

          • 138 Cha
            August 7, 2012 at 4:50 pm

            Then the movie is not entirely accurate..they decided to go with some fiction. UNBELIEVEABLE.

      • August 7, 2012 at 12:16 pm

        If that’s the case, then I probably won’t watch that movie. If it comes out in December, and Romney somehow wins the election (heaven forbid), then Romney will probably claim that he was the one who gave the order!

        Doesn’t make any sense. Fortunately, we’ve got the other movie that came out that was actually narrated by the people involved – including President Obama.

  36. August 7, 2012 at 11:04 am

    Knoller actually gave us some real news!

  37. August 7, 2012 at 11:07 am

    Hopefruit,
    Knoller is mad at you-

    LOL!

    • 142 hopefruit2
      August 7, 2012 at 11:13 am

      LOL! I saw that and responded a while ago.

    • August 7, 2012 at 12:23 pm

      He’s an idiot. He never said anything of the sort in his initial tweet, so why is this information being presented now? Shouldn’t the Nobel prize money have been paired with the Olympic prize money in the tweet, so it was in context? And why did we need to talk about the Nobel money in the first place? The news is that the President is supporting a bill for the Olympic athletes – that can stand on its own.

      • August 7, 2012 at 12:56 pm

      • 145 nathkatun7
        August 7, 2012 at 4:18 pm

        Good points theo67! Moreover, the President’s support for a bill to exempt olympic athletes from paying taxes on their prize money has absolutely nothing to do with the President decision to give his Nobel prize money to charities. Athletes do not have to give money to charity so as to avoid paying taxes. Knoller is trying to clean up his despicable lie that the President gave his nobel prize money to charities because he wanted to avoid paying taxes. I saw that as his attempt to cover Romney’s tax issues.

  38. 146 Ladyhawke
    August 7, 2012 at 11:11 am

    The scandal behind Romney’s new attack ad

    By Steve Benen

    —————————————-

    And that brings us back to the test for the political world.

    How are we to respond to a campaign that deliberately deceives the public without shame? This lie about welfare policy comes on the heels of Romney’s lie about voting rights in Ohio, which came on the heels of Romney’s lies about the economy; which came on the heels of Romney’s lies about health care; which came on the heels of Romney’s lies about taxes.

    The Republican nominee for president is working under the assumption that he can make transparently false claims, in writing and in campaign advertising, with impunity. Romney is convinced that there are no consequences for breathtaking dishonesty.

    The test, then, comes down to a simple question: is he right?

    The cynical response to an ad like this is that the lies are routine — it’s just something “everybody” in politics does. That’s wrong.

    An ad this dishonest is a genuine scandal and it’s time political observers treat it as such. Reporters within earshot of the candidate shouldn’t ask, “What about the gaffes?” They should ask, “Why are you lying about welfare policy?”

    ————————————

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/08/07/13163204-the-scandal-behind-romneys-new-attack-ad#comments

  39. 149 desertflower
    August 7, 2012 at 11:21 am

    Off to work…later:)

  40. 150 dotster3
    August 7, 2012 at 11:21 am

    Agree that this is a Must Read

  41. August 7, 2012 at 11:23 am

  42. 152 pugeretto
    August 7, 2012 at 11:27 am

    #Romneyhood is speaking in Elk Grove Village, suburban Chicago, saying “Obama is out of ideas,” he’s making me puke.

  43. 157 4morefor44
    August 7, 2012 at 11:39 am

    i see the democrats are kicking butt in even the “app” department. that’s dnc convention app looks great! remember mittbot’s dumb app release that spelled america as “amercia.” and it hardly did anything either…very simply programming. republicans are such fail machines at every level. they’d be a minor political party if we had actual journalism at the major news channels, and that’s why republican billionaires decided to buy all the media decades ago!!

    • 158 HZ
      August 7, 2012 at 11:52 am

      Good Morning/Afternoon TOD Family. I want to thank everyone who so generously donated to my FR page. We are getting there.

      A big thanks to Chips for allowing the TODers to have these pages for POB. We Will keep moving FORWARD.

      Thanks so much. I am still moving up to my goal. ((((((( Thank you all))))))) HZ

      • 159 otter44
        August 7, 2012 at 12:12 pm

        For those of you in Washington state, your ballot must be postmarked by today or you can drop your ballot in the collection boxes. Lets keep Washington blue..Please vote. Thanks L

  44. 160 carla4obama
    August 7, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    Can someone give a list of Marcio Rubios strengths and weaknesses as a possible VP pick? I cannot think of another person for romney’s VP pick.

  45. 161 Linda Perry
    August 7, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    I am so sick of the msm carrying the water for Willard and GOP. All the lying Willard and GOP need to do is release Willard’s tax returns for the last 12 years like his dad did. According to LA times Willard tried twice and succeed in getting his property tax in CA reduced from what he paid for it in 2009. He bought the house for 12.9 million cash, and got lawyers to first try to the value to 6.9 million. When that did not fly, his lawyers came back asking the house be reduced to 7.9 million. He finally got that and save over 150,000 in property tax. That is who this guy is and shame on the TV media for not educating the public about this RAT.

  46. August 7, 2012 at 12:14 pm

  47. August 7, 2012 at 12:14 pm

  48. 164 4morefor44
    August 7, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    after seeing some of our residents here a tod engaging mark “count dracula” knoller, i just sauntered over to his twitter feed. i see he’s doing one of the republican faves of, “oh yea. jimmy carter! nanny nanny nah nah!” someone should point out to mark troller that here’s some numbers he can count…more jobs were created in 4 years of the carter presidency than all 12 years of bush presidencies COMBINED.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_created_during_U.S._presidential_terms#Job_creation_by_term

    and it says he “covers” the white house, so why is almost the entire first page “rmoney spokesperson…blah blah blah…” and rmoney said this or that in iowa? it’s like he’s a conduit for rmoney pr people even though he’s supposed to be a white house correspondent. what a tool this ewok is!

  49. August 7, 2012 at 12:31 pm

  50. 167 Bill
    August 7, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    The S&P 500 is near a 4 1/2 year high, but yet the Republicans preach PBO has been a disaster for the economy. Wonder how much Willard’s net worth has increased since PBO has been in office? The Republican political discourse is meaningless with no substance.

  51. 168 amk for obama
    August 7, 2012 at 12:34 pm
  52. 169 hopefruit2
    August 7, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    Our folks at NASA are going to show us some recent live images on Mars from Curiosity. Check out the scene here! Press conference going on now.

    http://www.ustream.tv/nasajpl

  53. August 7, 2012 at 1:15 pm

    “In the last 30+ years the left has been at a disadvantage because while the Right has always been willing to make bold unsubstantiated statements, some that may have been true but most not, the left has always been science and evidence based.”

    “What I am absolutely ready to state is that Harry Reid is a patriot for ensuring that Americans will know enough about Mitt Romney and vote with their eyes wide open. He is doing his part.”

    http://egbertowillies.com/2012/08/07/senator-harry-reid-a-patriot-ensuring-americans-vote-with-eyes-wide-open/

  54. 171 whatisworking
    August 7, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    Greetings TODers

    Sorry to have not posted more, have been busy with our Democratic Office, they have been nice enough to offer us a free office within the headquarters and it has really helped our OFA efforts.

    I wanted to make 3 suggestions that I think might make a real difference in helping PBO win re-election

    1. Lets use this blog to do a little research into the strength of the Romney campaign. In previous threads there was an article about the Florida Romney campaign. I googled a bit and found this web page which lists it’s florida office locations

    http://www.mittromney.com/states/florida/locations

    If you follow the URL pattern you can also see a list for other states for example Ohio

    http://www.mittromney.com/states/ohio/locations

    When I tried it for my state of California

    http://www.mittromney.com/states/california/locations

    no offices were listed.

    If anyone in a battleground state has the time, energy and intestinal fortitude to visit one of these offices I would be curious to know how busy they are, you can always go in an pretend to shop for a button, without actually buying one.

    It would be wonderful to have a side by side comparison of the activity of the Obama headquarters vs the Romney camp.

    2. Keep those stories about what YOU are doing for the President rolling in, they are so encouraging to me, and I know they inspire others.

    3. I don’t tweet, (I retweet because it is so easy) – but I have a suggestion regarding teets in general and ones to Mark Knoller in specific.

    Lets pack tweets with positive facts about the president. I know it feels great to take a swipe at Knoller, but it will do so much more good to respond with facts about the presidents accomplishments, honesty, and character. I will try and post samples of tweet responses and then the titter experts can send them out.

    • 172 cookemom
      August 7, 2012 at 1:40 pm

      nice post/comment

    • 173 lmrj
      August 7, 2012 at 2:47 pm

      I sometimes think that Knoller gets his jollies from antagonizing obots. Totally agree about slamming Knoller with facts. That would piss him off and would also be a vehicle for getting the facts out to all of his followers.

      • 174 lmrj
        August 7, 2012 at 2:50 pm

        HI FELLOW OBOTS! Been a long time since I commented. I’ve been buried in work, so mostly lurking. Don’t know how I’d survive this election cycle without TOD! THANK YOU CHIPS!!!!!!!!!!

  55. August 7, 2012 at 1:27 pm

  56. 176 dotster3
    August 7, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    We were just talking about this a couple days ago at my house——we were HUGE Michael Jordan era Chgo Bulls fans—–as the campaign money numbers were released—–and commenting that Jordan always kept his distance from politics, despite constant pleas to engage. Now I see he’s stepping up for President Obama—yay! I also see a tweet wondering if he would make an appearance at the convention—-he’s in the neighborhood and all—-that would be fun!

  57. 187 hopefruit2
    August 7, 2012 at 2:03 pm

    • 188 57andfemale
      August 7, 2012 at 2:24 pm

      I am thrilled with the Obama campaign. It’s been effing brilliant. My only complaint is outreach to seniors.

      I think Repubs could keep the edge, because there are entrenched racist values, but we should be able to close the gap significantly. I am still appalled at how many seniors believe Republican lies on Social Security and Medicare and fall into the “I’ve got mine so screw everyone else”. But let’s be clear: seniors NEED PBO. They NEED Democrats, desperately.

      When PBO decided to stand proud for ACA, the numbers went up. It’s more than just people realizing what’s in the bill; it’s PBO taking proud ownership and making it more important in his campaign speeches. He has to do the same with seniors and there really is no time to lose.

    • 189 carla4obama
      August 7, 2012 at 2:31 pm

      What is it with seniors? Even AARP was for the ACA and the protection of medicare and SS (all Dem created programs).
      I just don’t understand what their “fear” is. Seniors are an odd group.

      • 190 Lovepolitics2008
        August 7, 2012 at 2:47 pm

        They watch a lot of mainstream TV. Not the only reason of course but I bet it’s a big factor.

        • 191 nathkatun7
          August 7, 2012 at 4:40 pm

          Totally agree with you on this! I am a member of the seniors class. I’ve been able to maintain some semblance of sanity by turning off broadcast media.

      • 192 hopefruit2
        August 7, 2012 at 2:59 pm

        I think this speaks to a broader issue of media influence, but seniors are MUCH more likely to consume traditional media like newspapers, cable tv evening news, etc, and less likely to be on Twitter, or liberal blogsites, etc. And we know how slanted the traditional media is….

      • 193 57andfemale
        August 7, 2012 at 3:02 pm

        Fear. Not familiar with how to get their information on the internet. I can’t tell you how frustrated I get when I talk to Democrats, for God’s sake, who fall for this b.s. What is particularly frustrating is having to explain it over and over because they believe the next lie they’re told.

        There is one phrase that sticks and the campaign needs to fix this: “Obama and ACA cut $500B from Medicare.” Romney says it all the time and this is what they believe. I’ve been beating my head against this wall for three years.

        They should be afraid of Romney and the Republicans. The campaign needs to make them fear Romney. I hate to be that blunt but fear is working on them.

  58. August 7, 2012 at 2:11 pm

    Carney was asked if the President said for Robney to pick Petreas as His VP?
    Carney basically said, what are you talking about?
    I am sick of all these childish games!

  59. 196 hopefruit2
    August 7, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    Curiosity has found signs of water on MARS!!!

  60. 200 57andfemale
    August 7, 2012 at 2:31 pm

    I’ve been thinking along these lines when I heard this story yesterday, but this personal take puts it in perspective and what Romney cost the residents of his county:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/07/1117567/-More-tax-troubles-for-the-Romneys


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