407 Responses to “‘Betting on America’”

  1. 1 Eveingeorgia
    July 18, 2012 at 2:43 pm


  2. 9 proudmemberofglobalzero
    July 18, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    Wow! Peace and love to all.

  3. 10 Eveingeorgia
    July 18, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    I am first!!!!!!

  4. 12 ranman11
    July 18, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    Congrats Eve

  5. 13 Eveingeorgia
    July 18, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    Thanks, everybody. It’s been a loooooooooong time.

  6. 14 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    July 18, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    Repost from the last thread — of course you guys ran away and left me while I was typing. Is it my breathe??? LOL

    Good afternoon TOD fam. great news — at the beginning of the year I moved my municipal accounts from TD to a small independent community bank. While in the bank today, the Branch mgr struck up a conversation regarding my t-shirt (an ’08 street vendor design). The conversation drifted to policies, Voter ID, etc. Great conversation over all. Bottom line, the bank is going to serve as a voter registration point and will educate folks on Voter ID! Love my small town!

  7. 20 Eveingeorgia
    July 18, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    Chips, I want the kissin’ picture.

  8. 21 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    July 18, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    Asshole (excuse my language) is holding a town hall. Lying and profiling…

  9. 26 desertflower
    July 18, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    Great, great video! Congrats, eve:) Good job….but Ms Chips….can I have a retroactive photo for the lickity split fast thread that you just blew by? That will be our go to thread if we get chatting too much, and you get too busy to put up another:) We’re sneaky like that…..

  10. July 18, 2012 at 2:55 pm

    FANTASTIC video!!!!

  11. 31 Eveingeorgia
    July 18, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    Thanks, Df.

  12. 33 desertflower
    July 18, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    Must read!! Doesn’t get any more clear than this…(from the last thread…Speedy Gonzales left me stranded over there, talking to myself again:)


  13. 34 Bill
    July 18, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    Willard made the half term governor look sane today. PBO has a way of getting under his opponents skin. Willard, it is a long time until November.

  14. 36 desertflower
    July 18, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    It’s July. I’m flipping over this idiot already. He believes in nothing, and no one. No principles, no morals, no soul, no heart.


    In 2005, Romney Supported Waivers He Now Claims Will ‘Undermine’ Welfare Reform

    But in 2005, Romney’s signature appeared on a letter from the Republican Governor’s Association to congressional leadership. The letter states explicit support for welfare waivers:
    The Senate bill provides states with with the flexibility to manage their TANF programs and effectively serve their low-income populations. Increased waiver authority, allowable work activities, availability of partial work credit and the ability to coordinate state programs are all important aspects of moving recipients from welfare to work.

    Actual letter shown with Mitt’s signature.

  15. 37 donna dem 4 obama
    July 18, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    Fabulous video!

  16. 38 desertflower
    July 18, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    His retroactive age really IS two!

    thinkprogress “Did you build your business? If you did raise your hand? Take that Mr. President!” — Mitt Romney
    22 minutes ago · reply · retweet · favorite

  17. 46 Dudette
    July 18, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    Great video!!!

    Hi Everyone!

  18. 47 Tally
    July 18, 2012 at 3:05 pm

  19. 48 donna dem 4 obama
    July 18, 2012 at 3:06 pm


  20. 50 Ladyhawke
    July 18, 2012 at 3:07 pm

    NBC News Plays Its Role In The Fox Cycle

    By Media Matters


    Amid heavy scandal-mongering from Fox, NBC News centered a news report on Tuesday around deceptively truncated comments President Obama made during a July 13 campaign appearance, comments right-wing media have been distorting for days to accuse President Obama of dismissing business owners.

    In other words, the Fox Cycle is in full effect.

    The Fox Cycle is the phenomenon where Fox News helps the conservative fringe bring bogus stories into mainstream outlets. It works like this:

    1. Right-wing bloggers, talk radio hosts, and other conservative media outlets start promoting and distorting the story.

    2. Fox News picks up the story and gives it heavy, one-sided coverage.

    3. Fox News and conservative media attack the “liberal media” for ignoring the distorted story.

    4. Mainstream media outlets eventually cover the story, echoing the right-wing distortions.

    5. Fox News receives credit for promoting the story.

    6. The story is later proven to be false or wildly misleading, long after damage is done.



  21. 51 Bill
    July 18, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    HP is reporting Willard did not release IRS forms from 2010 connected with his Swiss bank account. As of now the campaign is not responding to questions. It keeps getting better.

  22. 58 Dudette
    July 18, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    Hey, what do you get when an inept conservative blogger tries to sandbag the Pulitzer Prize-winning columnist Connie Schultz? Comedy Gold, my friends, comedy GOLD!! God love her, she was too generous to this idiot! 🙂

    A Reporter’s Failed Attempt To Sandbag Connie Schultz

  23. 63 Ladyhawke
    July 18, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    Elon Green ‏@elongreen


    Amazing that Romney’s relationship to his base is still so shaky that he finds it necessary to say his veep “will be a conservative.


  24. 65 Tally
    July 18, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    Here’s another one –

  25. 67 sabreen60
    July 18, 2012 at 3:18 pm

    Good Afternoon TOD.

    • 68 desertflower
      July 18, 2012 at 3:33 pm

      Thom Hartmann did a riveting segment on this very thing…if you can find it, listen to it. Absolutely frightening. AND motivating!

  26. 69 Nena20409
    July 18, 2012 at 3:18 pm

    Requesting please. Can we, is it possible to have a Like or Thumps up button to fave and give people Kudos? I don’t know about you all, but whenever I type a post, I can refresh the page, but I can NEVER get off without getting off from Chrome website and re-entering again on a new page. That is frustrating. That is why I comment fewer times and I would love to participate more. Any ideas for my problems? Or can we have what I was suggesting earlier? This is the Only site where this happens to me. Perhaps, it’s all on me. Please set me straight.

    Thank you in advance.

  27. 71 Ladyhawke
    July 18, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    Sarah Huisenga ‏@SarahH_CBSNJ


    Woman @ Romney event tells me they weren’t allowed to bring signs but told “If anybody owns a business, we have signs for you.”


    Retweeted by LOLGOP

    • 72 lisalovesobama
      July 18, 2012 at 3:28 pm

      how unsurprising. this guy is such an idiot and his team isn’t doing him any favors by coddling him. when he gets into the real world of the campaign, they are going to be so sorry. you can already see the effects of babying Petunia, look how unnerved he is by the whole tax issue? now he’s decided to go personal. plus, he’s gotten too used to lying and you can tell even his team haven’t accounted for or come up with a reasonable explanation for all his lying. what’s he gonna do during the debates when the moderator (who’s only in it for gravitas and wouldn’t mind a good cock fight) asks about the things Wilhemina said about PBO on the trail? They are too stupid, going for short term gains at the expense of a long term win. 🙄 do I really have to suffer through 3 more months of this shit?

  28. 73 Dudette
    July 18, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    Poll: Obama By 5 In New Mexico, Martinez Veep Pick Would Help Romney

    • 74 Nena20409
      July 18, 2012 at 3:27 pm

      And who are those Dems wanting to vote fro Romney? Based on what? PPP? Dems wanting to vote for Romney jumped from 12% to 21%? In what world? based on what?

      • 75 lisalovesobama
        July 18, 2012 at 3:32 pm

        good luck to those idiots. sometimes when I’m feeling particularly cruel, i like to imagine the impact of a Wilhemina presidency and all the bad stuff that will happen to all the dumbasses who would vote against their own interests. but then I realize that sometimes the American voters are so fricking dumb, they never learn from their mistakes. and then I remember that I still have to live in this country and i’d be one of the people impacted by this domestic terrorist’s reign of terror, and then i snap out of it and pray that the American voters truly aren’t as clueless as i imagine them to be.

    • 77 Bill
      July 18, 2012 at 3:30 pm

      New Mexico has 5 electoral votes. Willard needs a lot more help than that.

    • 78 4morefor44
      July 18, 2012 at 3:40 pm

      mittbot had about as bad a two week period as a presidential candidate can have. all logic states that his polling numbers should be going down substantially after these last two weeks. that’s why i predicted we would see a bunch of polling going in mittbot’s favor this week, and sure enough that’s what we’re seeing, even with the supposedly more liberal ppp company. mittbot himself can’t change the course, so the media, which the polling companies are a part of, will try to change the story lines for him.

      expect a national poll frontpaged at usatoday within the next few days that will show a big gain for mittbot, and it will be all anyone is talking about on all the channels for days. we need to ignore the noise hit the ofa office and streets, just like last time. forward!!

    • 79 jeff
      July 18, 2012 at 7:41 pm

      bah it aint going to happen. BTW picking Martinez will hurt Romney more than it will help him.

  29. 80 Ladyhawke
    July 18, 2012 at 3:30 pm


    Still more holes in Mitt Romney’s tax returns?

    By Greg Sargent


    If HuffPo’s story is correct, we don’t even have a clear picture of 2010, the year Romney is holding up as proof of his transparency. And of course, having more info about 2010 could hint at the techniques he may have used in other years. But again, this is all speculative — until, that is, Romney releases his returns.



  30. 81 utaustinliberal
    July 18, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    Pres. Obama must wonder everyday, “Why am I running against a petty child?”

    • 82 susanne
      July 18, 2012 at 5:14 pm

      yep, about two i’d say. needs a nap or a time out, and no more play dates with the public.

    • 83 Cha
      July 18, 2012 at 6:49 pm

      I can imagine his stupid plasticass face as he spewed it. What a campaign ad.. “Take that Mr President!” willard yells from his cornered rabid rat hole.

  31. 84 utaustinliberal
    July 18, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    Even the Plastics from the movie “Mean Girls” would look at themselves and deem themselves more mature than Romney and his camp.

  32. 85 desertflower
    July 18, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    Thank you, Chips:) I saw my 1st place prize…lovely!!

  33. 86 Ladyhawke
    July 18, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    Mitt Romney and the Deceptive Use of Racist Language

    By Ben Cohen


    As Bob Cesca commented in the wake of Romney’s bizarre speech at the NAACP that was clearly designed to appeal to his base rather than the African American community:

    It was only a matter of time before Romney engaged in this kind of racist dogwhistle politics that’s intended to fire up the resentful white Republican base. Every election season, the party just can’t help itself: demonize minorities, pump up the angry whites and win.

    John McCain and Sarah Palin adopted exactly the same strategy in 2008, using innuendo and suggestion to ensure as many angry white Republicans came out to vote as possible. It’s amazing that this type of thinly veiled racism still works, making it more depressing than ever. There is latent racism everywhere in America, most of which is a product of the country’s complex history, but our politicians should attempt to rise above it for the sake of moving the country forward. But politics is a ruthless game and politicians will do pretty much anything to win, including good ol’ fashioned black hating.



  34. 88 utaustinliberal
    July 18, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    I’m Catholic and I know the church has and has had its share of problems but even they would look at Romney and say “We’re better and more sane than you are. We don’t support the Paul Ryan budget. You do. So don’t compare yourself to us.”

    • 89 57andFemale
      July 18, 2012 at 3:57 pm

      We are NOT all Catholic. That’s the point!!!!!

      And I still can’t tweet. What is up with twitter on my home computer?!?!

    • 90 57andFemale
      July 18, 2012 at 4:21 pm

      They appear to be willing to go the full distance on this, as long as they can stop contraception.

      Contraception. I cannot get my brain around it. At all.

      According to my close Catholic friends, this is the message ever single Sunday. It’s appalling. Screw the poor, as long as we can control women.

      And really — the whole thing was at first economic anyway — we needed all those kids to work in the fields.

      There is nothing more pro-life than choosing to have children you can nurture emotionally and physically, for whom you can provide in every single way. It is anti-life to demand that those babies be conceived and born and then abandoned after birth. It’s as anti-life as you can get.

    • 91 nathkatun7
      July 18, 2012 at 4:31 pm

      Well said UT! My daughter is Catholic. VP Biden is Catholic. Teddy Kennedy was Catholic. Mitt Romney has very little in common with all of them.

  35. 92 57andFemale
    July 18, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    Okay, this is really too funny:

    “Zullo said investigators previously didn’t know the meaning of codes but they were explained by a 95-year-old former state worker who signed the president’s birth certificate. Zullo said a news reporter who has helped with the probe let investigators listen in on an interview he conducted of the former state worker.”

    From the Politico article on the latest Arpaio b.s. about PBO’s birth certificate. I quote this paragraph because of a couple of things:

    95 years old?!?!

    “….said a news reporter WHO HAS HELPED WITH THE PROBE.” How is that ‘news reporter’ considered reporting the ‘news’ when he has a bias to begin with?!?!?

    But my absolute favorite part: “…..a 95 year old former state worker WHO SIGNED THE PRESIDENT’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE”.

    They have admitted that Barack Obama was born in HAWAII.

    So fucking funny I can’t stand it.

  36. 96 desertflower
    July 18, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    AWESOME! CFPB fighting for the people! Thanks, Mr Cordray!

    Consumer watchdog’s first fine goes to Capital One for $210M


  37. July 18, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    The Romney campaign says it isn’t true that the candidate paid no taxes in one year or another.

    • 99 desertflower
      July 18, 2012 at 3:55 pm

      Oh good. We can all breath a sigh of relief. The Liar said it, so it MUST be true…or something:) HAHAHAHAHA.

      • 100 carolyn
        July 18, 2012 at 3:59 pm

        The truth must really be getting to them…..obviously, he did pay no taxes in at least one year…..

      • 101 57andFemale
        July 18, 2012 at 4:08 pm

        Well he said so. That’s good enough for “the help”, right?

        When Steve Schmitt parsed his words about there being no problem with the tax returns for McCain, that’s because the shit that bothers the rest of us doesn’t bother Republicans or the likes of John McCain.

        Dumbasses. All of them.

    • 102 anniebella
      July 18, 2012 at 4:52 pm

      Release the tax returns and prove it Romney camp. You know a liar lies and they have to prove they are not lying, so we are waiting Romney camp, prove what you said is true by releasing Mitt tax returns.

  38. 103 Don
    July 18, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    looks like Syrian President Bashar al-Assad will be the latest in a long line of motherfuckers that didn’t take President Obama’s advice. So now Bashar’s defense minister and his brother-in-law have been permanently retired. I would love to be a fly on the picnic table at Bashar’s next family reunion.

  39. 104 utaustinliberal
    July 18, 2012 at 3:57 pm

  40. 105 donna dem 4 obama
    July 18, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    Mitt is such a wuss.

    • 106 carolyn
      July 18, 2012 at 4:01 pm

      This is the beginning of his total implosion. I knew it would happen eventually. As Tomasky said today: “He’s just a whiny little boy.”

      • July 19, 2012 at 8:21 am

        As Tomasky said today: “He’s just a whiny little boy.”

        Argh ! This so reminds me of the line from Monty Python’s “The Life of Brian”: “He’s not the Messiah, he’s just a naughty boy !”

    • 108 susanne
      July 18, 2012 at 5:17 pm

      oooooh! coward is strong language, and maybe even extends to draft-dodgers whose daddy helped them avoid the vietnam conflict by a ‘mission’ to france.

  41. July 18, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    • July 18, 2012 at 4:09 pm

      Yes! I have a question? Is one of the resins Willard does not release his tax returns, because his Wealthy donors have the same kind of tax returns?
      Have they been donating to keep Willard secretive, on His/their taxes?

      • July 18, 2012 at 4:15 pm

        This is obviously such a deeply personal issue for him, there must be some very bad secrets hidden in forms all those years. That’s why we absolutely have to keep up the pressure until he’s forced to do something substantive.

      • July 18, 2012 at 7:34 pm

        I have a question: what are you so afraid of, Myth? I’lll show my tax returns, but you would not believe that anyone can live, raise a child, alone, work more than full time, and still earn far far less than you deducted for your horse. Okay?

    • 113 57andFemale
      July 18, 2012 at 4:11 pm

      He absolutely does. But he doesn’t get to be POTUS.

      Go clean a stable, or ruin a company, or fire a bunch of people and call it ‘capitalism’. You may be good at that but you have ZERO understanding of what it means to be POTUS.

    • 114 57andFemale
      July 18, 2012 at 4:16 pm

      Seriously, let me get this straight: “I should be President because I’m so successful at business”. But no one has any right to any information about any aspect of my wealth or business practices or anything.”

      I loathe him more and more every day.

      • 115 desertflower
        July 18, 2012 at 4:30 pm

        Amen. He now ranks up there with Cantor of the faces that I’d like to smack the smirk off.

        • 116 lisalovesobama
          July 18, 2012 at 4:35 pm

          and Crybaby Bonehead, too.

          • 117 desertflower
            July 18, 2012 at 4:43 pm

            Him too…there are SO MANY!

            • 118 lisalovesobama
              July 18, 2012 at 4:49 pm

              Bonehead, Cantababy, Wilhemina, and that token repuke woman with short dark hair who is always attached to Bonehead’s ass are the tippy top of my list. I’d just love the chance to bitch the shit outta them. Asses.

    • 119 Dudette
      July 18, 2012 at 5:17 pm

      Fine Mitt! Then start looking for another job, because YOU DON’T GET TO BE PRESIDENT!

  42. 122 Don
    July 18, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    Is it wrong for me to feel a little bit sad for Mitt, I’m starting to think he had no idea what he signed up for. I mean having to divulge his tax returns and where he keeps his money is so uncouth, things like that should only be talked about in quiet rooms.

    • 123 desertflower
      July 18, 2012 at 4:11 pm

      Yes. It’s very wrong. Stop now.

    • July 18, 2012 at 4:12 pm

      No, he is a Bully! LOL!

    • 125 57andFemale
      July 18, 2012 at 4:12 pm

      Yes. Stop it. Right now.

      He knew. He always knew. He just thought that no rules applied to him, and he was free to lie and cheat as much as necessary to ‘win’.

    • 127 4morefor44
      July 18, 2012 at 4:31 pm

      huh. have sole discretion, which mittbot did, on firing thousands of people, and realizing what that means to all the children in those families who are being laid off in favor a slave labor in china and elsewhere, while stealing millions for himself, i’d say mittbot doesn’t deserve anyone’s empathy. maybe if ever showed the tiniest amount of caring for all those kids in those families he laid off over the years, but hundreds of millions of dollars isn’t enough for him. he and his friends need even more, and that’s how we’ll help those poor kids. yes, that’s the ticket! (pure insanity how the republican trickle down mindset has been allowed to take over america and promoted by our media.)

    • 128 Dudette
      July 18, 2012 at 5:22 pm

      Bull shizzle! I hope you’re just being sarcastic.

      How long has this man been running for President? And “he didn’t know what he signed up for?” He gave up 20+ yrs returns to McCain in order to be vetted for VP, but he doesn’t think he should have to submit even one year’s COMPLETE return to run for President? GTFOH

    • July 18, 2012 at 7:44 pm

      Maybe not wrong so much as overly compassionate… It takes some people longer, with agreed lessons, to learn the lessons of humanity. Myth has shown only what he is capable of…. And it is not humanistic.

  43. 130 Linda
    July 18, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    Abby Huntsman is writing over at Huffington Post and she has a story up that looks interesting..

    WASHINGTON — Mitt Romney has been determined to resist releasing his tax returns at least since his bid for Massachusetts governor in 2002 and has been confident that he will never be forced to do so, several current and former Bain executives tell The Huffington Post. Had he thought otherwise, say the sources based on their longtime understanding of Romney, he never would have gone forward with his run for president.

    Bain executives say they’ve been instructed to keep company and Romney-specific information completely confidential, tightening the lockdown on an already closed company.


    • 131 ChristiMTL
      July 18, 2012 at 4:36 pm

      Ok I have to break by boycott of Huff….that’s all I see on Twitter! Links to Huff…..it’s been like this for about 2 weeks….She hates Romney because he was mean to her BFF……I’ll check it out

  44. 132 Squarepeg
    July 18, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    Obama quote of the day:

    ‎”I think we should talk more about our empathy deficit – the ability to put ourselves in someone else’s shoes; to see the world through the eyes of those who are different from us – the child who’s hungry, the steelworker who’s been laid-off, the family who lost the entire life they built together when the storm came to town. When you think like this – when you choose to broaden your ambit of concern and empathize with the plight of others, whether they are close friends or distant strangers – it becomes harder not to act; harder not to help.”

    BARACK OBAMA, speech, Aug. 11, 2006

  45. 135 Bill
    July 18, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    It is possible Willard was so unhinged in Ohio today because he had become aware that the 2010 IRS disclosure without the Swiss bank account forms had been discovered.

    • 136 lisalovesobama
      July 18, 2012 at 4:21 pm

      i don’t give a hoot why that freak came unhinged, i just want him buried so far and so deep, even his great grandkids don’t get the bright idea to run for any office in these United States.

      • 137 carla4obama
        July 18, 2012 at 4:41 pm

        With all this Mitt meltdown..why do the polls (national) so no change or that Mitt has gained? People can say they are “fixed” but that cannot be the case for so many polls. We need our team to show why they should vote for President Obama, not just why they should not vote for Mittless. Robney is unhinged…why do Americans still not have a clear shift away from that jerk!

        • 138 lisalovesobama
          July 18, 2012 at 4:48 pm

          I hear that it was the same with McBeth, that all his negatives hurt him in terms of voters views on him in battleground states, but the national polls still weren’t as impacted. we saw how that debate was settled. This character stuff isn’t for the whole country, it’s for those 1-3% of Americans in battleground states who will give us victory in November. We already know how 90-92%, of the electorate will vote, it’s the difference that matters and they still need some convincing.

          • 139 jacquelineoboomer
            July 18, 2012 at 5:56 pm

            McBeth – That was the best laugh today! Thank you.

          • 140 miss pat
            July 18, 2012 at 9:00 pm

            Lady McBeth: “Can all great Neptune’s ocean wash the blood clean from my hands?” As my dear departed mother used to say, “Story coming to bump.” We will sit back and enjoy the bunpy ride.

    • 141 57andFemale
      July 18, 2012 at 4:28 pm

      Oh, God. What did he do now?

      • 142 Bill
        July 18, 2012 at 4:36 pm

        He was more frantic than usual saying PBO said Steve Jobs did not create Apple, Papa John did not create Papa John’s Pizza, that the govenment built them and that PBO does not believe in free enterprise only in government. He was shockingly unhinged.

        • 143 57andFemale
          July 18, 2012 at 4:48 pm

          The campaign really should make an ad of the entire section of PBO’s speech with the tag line,

          “And that’s the TRUTH”.

          End of story.

          Steve Jobs created American jobs because he had an educated workforce, and roads that people could travel on to get to work, and an internet created by the government, and……

          Oh, why am I preaching to the choir.

          • 144 nathkatun7
            July 18, 2012 at 7:49 pm

            Equally important, (or perhaps more importantly) Steve jobs was able to create jobs because public schools, teachers, students, musicians, artists, etc., etc., bought apple computers and other apple products. Without consumer like me (I am now on my 4th apple computer), Steve Jobs would never have been able to create jobs single handedly. That’s not to diminish the exceptional role he and other creative people working with him played in inventing a product that benefited people.

            Unlike Steve Jobs who created a product that people can use and benefit from, Mitt Romney created no product. His money is exclusively derived from financial manipulations and leveraged buyouts. As has been documented, his vulture brand of capitalism is not about job creation. It’s all about maximizing profits. In many instances Romney’s brand of capitalism destroyed jobs in order to maximize profits.

            • July 19, 2012 at 8:29 am

              To say nothing of the exports – I bought 38,000 Dutch Guilders worth of NeXT stuff in the early 90’s (roughly 17,500 Euro’s at 1991 prices).

  46. 146 lisalovesobama
    July 18, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    I’ve really been wondering, can a former president later serve on the Supreme Court? As far as I’ve seen only William Taft has done so. He was nominated by Harding and confirmed by the senate. So hopefully, after PBO serves his second term and has taken a brief respite, he’ll be nominated by another Dem president. Seriously, since he’s term limited as president, we need him serving in the judiciary because we won’t survive with these psychopaths making decisions about our rights.

    • 147 japa21
      July 18, 2012 at 4:36 pm

      There no specified requirements for serving on the SC. I would love to see both PBO and Hilary sitting on that bench.

      • July 18, 2012 at 4:40 pm

        PBO as Chief Justice. That would be grand.

        • 149 lisalovesobama
          July 18, 2012 at 4:56 pm

          do you think he’d accept? I mean, he’s needed and he’d make a huge difference. Wasn’t there an interview with a law school friend or professor who said that they thought that PBO would go be a clerk for the supreme court which may have eventually led to him having a seat on the SC, but instead he packed up and went to Chi-Town to be a community organizer? I mean, it was already thought that he would eventually become a SC justice, he might as well follow through. I can’t imagine a world without PBO playing some important role in our government.

    • 150 57andFemale
      July 18, 2012 at 4:49 pm

      Absolutely. He would be an absolutely fantastic SC Justice.

      • 151 lisalovesobama
        July 18, 2012 at 4:51 pm

        Let’s hope the next Dem president nominates him. We need to clean up the scum festering on the SC bench.

        • 152 miss pat
          July 18, 2012 at 9:13 pm

          That would be nice Lisa. But can he withstand more years of the bull sheet? Can you imagine the crap he will have to put up with since an appointment would be for his lifetime? Sometimes I wish he’d just retire to Hawaii with his family, teach law a few days a week and spend the rest of his life just writing books and taking it easy. Twenty years from now he will be in the history books as the greatest President ever. And that my friends is what is driving them crazy.

    • 153 PoliticalJunkessa
      July 18, 2012 at 5:51 pm

      I think he would be an excellent Justice, from a scholarly point of view. However, I believe he has said before he is much to restless for a job like that. I could see him being well into retirement before he would slow down enough to be on the bench. I can’t see him doing it before 70.

      • 154 nathkatun7
        July 18, 2012 at 8:11 pm

        PJ, I agree that President Obama would be an excellent Justice. Personally, I would love to see him go back to teaching. Although I am getting old and there is zero chance I can be admitted to any college, I would still love to sit in one of his classes to learn about politics and constitutional law. I think young people (and old people too) would benefit immensly from his knowledge and experience. He always strikes me as one of those rare master teachers who inspire their students to believe in their ability to make valuable contributions to society.

  47. 156 57andFemale
    July 18, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    From David Frum. I kid you not:

    “For 20 years now, the GOP has been giving away the votes of professionals, upper-income non-whites, college-educated women, and other comparatively economically successful groups.

    The party has rebased itself on the votes of whites without a college degree. Mitt Romney must gain almost two-thirds of their vote in 2012 to have any realistic hope of winning the White House.

    Non-college whites are the most alienated and pessimistic group in the electorate and also the most nationalist. They may resent the “foreigner” Barack Obama, but there is one thing they hate even more: outsourcing—and those who do it.”

    Wait, there’s more:

    “Yesterday was a truly ugly day on the campaign trail. Former Bush 41 Chief of Staff John Sununu told reporters on the campaign trail that President Obama had to learn to be an American—suggesting of course that he is not an American yet. (Killing bin Laden evidently being yet
    another of those jobs Americans won’t do.)

    It’s probably hopeless by now to try to excite the GOP’s conservative base about Romney, not only because of ideology, but even more because of sociology. Romney’s life, career, and manner all combine to remind the white working class why their parents and grandparents voted Democratic.”

    Wow. Just wow.

  48. July 18, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    It’s a “source”, but if true is just amazing.

    • 160 ChristiMTL
      July 18, 2012 at 4:47 pm

      It worked in the past! He thought it would be the same………

      • July 18, 2012 at 5:45 pm

        Right. Robney won MA governor because he hid. He didn’t do media interviews and only did carefully controlled campaign events. OFA knew that he was counting on voters not knowing who he is. They have carefully taken that away from him. Rethugs are not getting the referendum on PBO that they wanted. Robney is having to run for real.

    • 162 4morefor44
      July 18, 2012 at 4:51 pm

      that’s b.s. the “source” is from a huffpoop propaganda piece by jon huntsman’s daughter abby (oh look, another nepotism case in the media…they’re just going to embed their kids now into the media to keep the propaganda going for decades more!). it already was an issue on his earlier campaigns. the whole piece is written as a “aw, poor, poor mitbot and that meanie obama being all mean to him. wahhh!!” of course mittbot knew this would come up, in fact they probably planned to deal with it by doing what they’re doing now, through jon huntsman’s daughter, which is an attempt to deflect it by playing the whiny baby card/mean obama card, and hope they won’t have to reveal the tax returns. too bad for them, they don’t 100% control the media anymore, so it’s not going to work this time.

    • 164 jackiegrumbacher
      July 18, 2012 at 5:02 pm

      I guess he thought the whole campaign thing was going to be a romp in the park. He would be treated with courtesy and deference and then just step up to take his rightful place in the WH. Time to wake up, Willard. Politics is an ugly game and you’re not good at it.

    • July 18, 2012 at 5:21 pm

      Tweet that to axelrod!

    • 166 Dudette
      July 18, 2012 at 5:27 pm

      So like, um… has he been asleep all his adult life? My 9-yr nephew knows presidential candidates release their tax returns.
      And did none of his crack campaign staff during all those years when he was running for stuff tell him the deal?

    • 167 Ladyhawke
      July 18, 2012 at 5:47 pm

      Interesting. …………….

      GOP prods Romney on tax returns


      Several GOP senators said they expected Romney to release additional tax return information in the days ahead.

      Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) said he heard from a Romney campaign source recently that the presumptive GOP nominee would release more information in the coming days.

      “I stand behind him regardless of what he decides to do on that,” said Lee.



    • July 19, 2012 at 8:33 am

      Never listened to his father (Romney “the Rambler”) ?

  49. July 18, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    • 170 Dudette
      July 18, 2012 at 6:34 pm

      Horrible just horrible. I have a friend who’s parents live there. Waited too long to try to get out, now they can’t cross the border.

  50. July 18, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    Risk assessment analysis performed free of charge for #BainMitt …

  51. 177 desertflower
    July 18, 2012 at 4:49 pm

    Nice piece from Margaret Carlson (little mouse…she looks like a little mouse to me..not meant as a slam, just is )


  52. 182 Ladyhawke
    July 18, 2012 at 4:55 pm


    We asked people in North Carolina their thoughts on Mitt Romney saying he was retired “retroactively” as CEO of Bain Capital from 1999 to 2001.

    • 183 Cha
      July 18, 2012 at 7:06 pm

      Thx Ladyhawke! I like the woman’s explanation. who said… “I’m gonna go back and say I wasn’t there.”

    • 184 nathkatun7
      July 18, 2012 at 8:33 pm

      Team Obama is doing a wonderful job! They have Mitt cornered and they are not giving him any openings to escape.

  53. 185 Linda
    July 18, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    The ” Firms” ad just played here in Atlanta……

  54. 190 desertflower
    July 18, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    I REALLY, REALLY liked this 🙂


    That was cute by half stupid blogger….

  55. July 18, 2012 at 4:59 pm

    These guys are cranking out the great ads:

  56. 193 Ladyhawke
    July 18, 2012 at 5:02 pm

    Steve Benen ‏@stevebenen


    Isn’t this an endorsement of Obama’s line? MT @jedlewison: Romney says entrepreneurs need govt to start businesses http://bit.ly/M9tQdh


    Retweeted by LOLGOP

    • 194 lisalovesobama
      July 18, 2012 at 5:03 pm

      Wilhemina is the biggest copy cat alive. that’s all he does, copy and lie, copy and lie, rinse and repeat!

      • 195 desertflower
        July 18, 2012 at 5:30 pm

        Don’t miss the point, lisa…this is what PBO has said all along…and provoked the false outrage about business/govt. working hand in hand

  57. 197 Linda
    July 18, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    Hahaha at Andrea Saul! Hahaha!

    “Asked about the Bain executives’ observations, Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul said, ‘Rumors on what unknown people who Mitt Romney may not have ever met muse about what someone else, also unknown, told them should not justify a story.'”

  58. July 18, 2012 at 5:08 pm

  59. 206 lisalovesobama
    July 18, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    Tweety watched the ‘Dressage’ ad by the DNC and his take away: “never go after the spouse.”——- WHAT?!!! who said anything about Mrs. Money? No one said anything about that self-centered, entitled, cosmetic surgery candidate. :sneer: and if you have a problem, take it up with the DNC.

    • 207 Ladyhawke
      July 18, 2012 at 5:23 pm

      Tell it LLO. Could you believe that? I think I saw a comment yesterday where Mrs Greenspan was trying to make a big deal out of the ad because in her mind it’s going after Ann Romney. That is just total BS. The problem for Mrs Greenspan is that it’s a very cleaver ad that makes the point they were trying to make perfectly.. I wonder how outraged she would be if the RNC had produced a similar ad with a dancing horse going after Democrats.

      • July 18, 2012 at 8:19 pm

        IN July 2010 when the first lady took her family on vacation to Europe, remember the media frenzy about it? All the media were going along with the GOP criticizing her so called “lavish and expensive vacation”, even Andrea Mitchell was there questioning Mrs. Obama’s vacation expenses. Here we have Mrs. Mitchell now defending Ann Romney regarding this ad, that is not even about Ann. Mrs. Obama is never defended by the media or so called “women’s organization” when she is unfairly being velified.

    • July 18, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    • July 18, 2012 at 5:38 pm

      Tweety is being hypocritical with this nonsense. Did he have a problem with Romney saying that John Kerry’s wife didn’t pay taxes? What about when Tweety himself falsely attacked FLOTUS and the girls, claiming that they were unhappy and didn’t have a “sense of gratitude” to the American people for putting them in the WH?

      • 211 lisalovesobama
        July 18, 2012 at 6:16 pm

        Oh, yeah! I’d forgotten that! He’s so ridiculous.

      • 212 nathkatun7
        July 18, 2012 at 9:15 pm

        Totally agree hp! I also don’r remember Tweety saying anything, in 2008, when Republicans, including Cindy McCain, were attacking Michelle Obama for her comment about being proud of her country. These media pundits are totally useless. Sadly, despite their continued decline as the only sources of news, they still wield a great deal of power.Many viewers still rely on MSM for guidance and direction.

    • July 18, 2012 at 5:51 pm

      Miss Ann is a horse??? *confuzzled*

      • 214 lisalovesobama
        July 18, 2012 at 6:12 pm

        Her hobby is dressage.

        • 215 miss pat
          July 18, 2012 at 9:34 pm

          and that is supposed to help her MS? I have an autoimmune diisease too and would like to get on a horse if that would help me but I can’t afford a horse. My cousin who died with MS would have loved to get on a horse if that would have helped her. Her hobby cost more than most people make in a year and she tried to write it off as an expense. She drugged a horse and sold it for big money. I have no respect for Wilheminia and his wife.

  60. 216 lisalovesobama
    July 18, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    Charles Blow is back on MSNBFOX!!!!!

  61. 222 Tally
    July 18, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    Good to know :

  62. July 18, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    PBO has such distinctive ears, this bumper sticker works.

  63. 238 Roberta in MN
    July 18, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    Off to OFA training. will catch up later and do some quasie report 😉 Good evening TODer’s and Chips. Won’t be home until 8:30pm. 🙂 CST

  64. 240 Linda
    July 18, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    Romney To Woman Calling Obama A ‘Monster’: ‘That’s Not The Term I Would Use’

    Even as his campaign reportedly gears up for negative attacks on President Obama, there are some lines Mitt Romney apparently won’t cross.

    At a town hall meeting in Ohio Tuesday, Romney was asked a question by a woman who called Obama “a monster.”

    “That’s not the term I would use,” Romney said.

    “Well I can, I’m an angry mom,” the woman replied to laughter from the crowd.


  65. 244 desertflower
    July 18, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    Fuckstick panderer. These poor idiots have no idea they’d be the first ones under the bus when he’s done using their ignorance…


    During a town hall in Ohio on Wednesday, Romney responded to question about the United Nations by declaring that the international body will undermine Americans’ Second Amendment rights and dictate how families should raise their children:
    ROMNEY: Turning to the United Nations to tell us how to raise our kids, or whether we can have the Second Amendment rights that our Constitution gave us, I mean, that is the wrong way to go, right? Do not cede sovereignty. I’m happy to talk there. I’m not willing to give American sovereignty in any way, shape or form to the United Nations or any other body. We are a free nation. We fought for freedom and independence. We are going to keep freedom and independence.

    • 245 Dudette
      July 18, 2012 at 5:51 pm

      Prince Douche Nozzle is an affront to stupid people everywhere!

    • 246 4morefor44
      July 18, 2012 at 6:10 pm

      mittbot, the fortunate son, never “fought” for anything, either have his able-bodied, strapping young sons, all 5 of them. please. mittbot went and protested FOR the vietnam war then jetted off to france for a few years to avoid having to actually fight. god, i can’t believe how horrible this man is. what an insult to all those who have served and died in actual wars.

  66. July 18, 2012 at 5:48 pm

  67. 249 whatisworking
    July 18, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    MoveOn.org has release this ad, glad to see help coming from several groups

    Tricky Mitt

  68. 251 desertflower
    July 18, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    I Love it! “What’s in YOUR wallet?” $140 million…thanks to CFPB!


  69. 254 Tally
    July 18, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    • 258 hopefruit2
      July 18, 2012 at 6:13 pm

      And Meta I was just about to post a lovely pic of First Dog Bo chillaxing with a WH staff member from that new deck!! This is awesome!! 🙂 The black/white pic of PBO is simply outstanding!

      • July 18, 2012 at 6:25 pm

        So many gorgeous ones, great moments.

        Love the one you’re talking about. LOVE the one with POTUS & FLOTUS looking back a the Chicago skyline. Love the ones that refer to the ACA ruling. LOVE the one where the little boy is kissing POTUS at the picnic.


        • 260 utaustinliberal
          July 18, 2012 at 6:44 pm

          Those are all my favorites too. The black and white pictures were like something out of the West Wing. The pictures of Pres. Obama and VP Biden were so heart warming. Especially the picture of their grins as they were having lunch the day ObamaCare was upheld by the supreme court. The huge hug Kathryn Ruemmler gave Pres. Obama the day ACA was upheld was particularly poignant. They worked their butts off for this wonderful law. The one of the little boy almost toppling over in his haste to kiss Pres. Obama was just so sweet. Kids love him! The one where he and FLOTUS are in each other’s arms and staring at the Chicago skyline was just melt your heart wonderful. The one where Cecilia Munoz the Director of Domestic Policy looked choked up as Pres. Obama announced the new immigration policy for Dreamers. They were all just fantastic!

          Pete Souza is a freaking genius!

          • 261 hopefruit2
            July 18, 2012 at 6:47 pm

            PBO has the solid support of diverse people of all ages, races, background, cultures, creeds in America.

            All Willard has are bogus pieces of corporate media propaganda called “polls.”

      • 262 Bill
        July 18, 2012 at 6:35 pm

        Bo has a lot of friends around the WH.

    • 263 hopefruit2
      July 18, 2012 at 6:16 pm

      This pic is just PURE HOTNESS… can’t spin it any other way..


    • 269 lisalovesobama
      July 18, 2012 at 6:36 pm

      Favorite one of the little boy leaning over to kiss PBO!!!!!! 🙂

    • 270 CEB
      July 18, 2012 at 6:57 pm

      There were some that I had not seen either; my favorites are of the little boy who kissed PBO from his perch on his dad’s shoulders and the one of Bo and Brian M. sitting on the floor outside of the oval. These two are long-time buddies. Do you remember that picture of Bo when he was a puppy and Brian sitting in a chair with his legs pulled up because Bo had a habit of chewing shoes?

    • 272 Dudette
      July 18, 2012 at 7:48 pm

      I like that picture of PBO talking to Bill Clinton.
      Now I can fantasize about him standing that close to me with that look on his face for like 5 seconds…

      Then I’d faint! 🙂

  70. 276 Bill
    July 18, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    Catherine Crier just told Rev. Al that the Swiss bank account could cause Willard to withdraw as a candidate. This news today is big.

    • 277 desertflower
      July 18, 2012 at 6:17 pm

      Uh, Oh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • July 18, 2012 at 6:36 pm

      It’s a big deal, for sure.

    • July 18, 2012 at 6:46 pm

      What happened with his Swiss accounts?

      • July 18, 2012 at 6:54 pm

        Romney Failed to Disclose Swiss Bank Account Income
        Mitt Romney’s campaign is amending the financial disclosure form he filed in 2011 to acknowledge that a Romney trust earned interest income from a Swiss bank account ….


        #BainMitt apologists are trying the ‘gosh, it’s such a big document and these little issues some times are overlooked … blah, blah, blah …’

        He’s probably paid a huge pile of cash to have that return scrubbed, and we all know it.

      • 281 Bill
        July 18, 2012 at 6:56 pm

        He did not include the IRS forms pertaining to his Swiss bank accounts with the 2010 returns he released to the public. His campaign is not responding to questions why they were not included. In other words, he has not released the entire returns for any year.

        • July 18, 2012 at 7:04 pm

          But really, who are they going to get to replace him? Crazy Uncle Ron? All the plausible candidates want nothing to do with going up against Obama. I think they can tell it’s going to be a massacre in November.

          • July 18, 2012 at 7:19 pm

            LL, well we all know Santorum & Gingrich both have the ego to try to step in as savior and I have no doubt they’re both scheming like the nutjobs they both are … and, I actually will not be the least surprised if Mitt folds …

          • 286 nathkatun7
            July 18, 2012 at 9:51 pm

            Totally agree with you LL.that at this late stage in the game substituting another candidate to replace Romney will be an even greater disaster for the GOP. It would reveal to the American people that the Republican party is in disarray. On the other hand, with the tons of money they have on their side, I think Mitt Romney, if he cleans up his tax issues, will still be very competitive. We still have 3/12 months to go. Most people won’t start tuning in about the elections until after Labor day. If Romney is still dancing around his tax issues and his foreign bank accounts and investments in September and October, he will be totally crushed. A drop in unemployment would also make it unlikely for Romney to win. Having said that, I think all of us must stay vigilant and focused on the fact that this will not be an easy race for the President. Winning will require extra work from all of us.

    • 288 hopefruit2
      July 18, 2012 at 6:54 pm

      That’s why John McCain is now trying to distract us with his sudden “niceness” towards a Dem aide. I’m not falling for it.

  71. 289 Ladyhawke
    July 18, 2012 at 6:15 pm


    By Editorial Board, Updated: Wednesday, July 18, 3:21 PM


    FOR MOST AMERICANS, income tax returns are a private matter, and federal law protects that privacy. For those who would be president, a different standard applies. The modern presidency demands so much of one individual — decisions of immense complexity, consequence and difficulty — that the candidates’s character must be thoroughly examined.
    A president often has to decide how much to disclose about events or decisions that are not particularly pleasant. We’ve long argued that openness and transparency are critical in building public confidence and in the functioning of democracy. If Mr. Romney is not willing to open up his tax returns, what does that say about his instinct for leveling with the American people from the Oval Office? His refusal to release the names of his chief campaign bundlers compounds the concern.



  72. July 18, 2012 at 6:32 pm

  73. 291 LOL
    July 18, 2012 at 6:37 pm

    Ohh CBS you are sooo adorable..pretending to be a real news organization and all

    When FOX has PBO by 4…LMAO

    • 292 hopefruit2
      July 18, 2012 at 6:44 pm

      HAHAHAHA…another bogus piece of propaganda….

    • 293 Dudette
      July 18, 2012 at 6:47 pm

      They’re just throwing darts at numbers on a wall.

    • July 18, 2012 at 6:59 pm

      Did I read right? The poll was taken on the 11th? If so, it was old news before they even released it.

    • July 18, 2012 at 7:10 pm

    • 298 anniebella
      July 18, 2012 at 7:26 pm

      So CBS/NY Times spoke to how many Republicans, how many Democrats, how many Independents?

    • 299 Nena20409
      July 18, 2012 at 7:30 pm

      Fox, PEW, CNN, Reuters, and about 10 there polls all wrong?

      Last time around, CBS/NYT had Pres Obama at 46% and Romney at 46%. And now Romney is at 47% based on what exactly? The 80K jobs growth in June? Funny, how CBS/NYT used to always have the pres with higher numbers until the last 3 months, so what happened? What could have happened to boost Romney, especially after the ACA SCOTUS ruling. Tomorrow, the morning shows would forget the PEW, Fox and others and the theme would be how Romney is with standing negative ads by the president. FOLKS they are lying. The media manipulation is on high alert. They, the media, want so desperately to change the Tax Returns hurting Romney to pres Obama is in trouble. Those who tweet and Facebook, please don’t let them.

  74. July 18, 2012 at 6:42 pm

  75. 303 lisalovesobama
    July 18, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    Barney Frank is too funny! He said there’s nothing more dangerous than standing between Wilhemina and a position he wants. Watch out or you’ll get run over by one of his wife’s two Cadillacs!!! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! 😆 😆

  76. 305 desertflower
    July 18, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    OK…it’s time:) PJ mentioned swag..which made me think of this:) Thank you, 3 Chics.

  77. July 18, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    This has just been one of those weeks. Sighs. Can’t wait to get out of town on Friday.

  78. July 18, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    Solid ….

  79. 310 desertflower
    July 18, 2012 at 7:04 pm

    Hey, you know…when it suits their purpose…


    Republicans Abandon ‘Government Doesn’t Create Jobs’ Mantra In Fight To Preserve Military Spending

  80. 311 desertflower
    July 18, 2012 at 7:07 pm

    thinkprogress Former Bachmann campaign chief: “I am fully aware that she sometimes has difficulty w/her facts” thkpr.gs/P12KVz
    41 minutes ago · reply · retweet · favorite

    SOMETIMES? She never met a fact she liked.

  81. 317 hopefruit2
    July 18, 2012 at 7:28 pm


  82. July 18, 2012 at 7:30 pm

  83. 319 anniebella
    July 18, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    What happen to CBS live stream showing FLOTUS in Alabama talking to the people who suffer damage from a tornado? Did i miss it?

  84. 322 hopefruit2
    July 18, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    • July 18, 2012 at 8:07 pm

      That is because 97% if republicans are against immigration. So, the poll is nit saying if they mean to deport? Why yes, Robney gets much higher marks!

    • July 18, 2012 at 8:17 pm

      Yeah, that’s complete bullshit and I see folks on twitter tearing their hair out. I am so looking forward to “Obama needs to…:”

    • 325 Cha
      July 18, 2012 at 8:39 pm

      cbs has adopted George Orwell’s 1984 as their Perfect World.

    • 326 anniebella
      July 18, 2012 at 8:44 pm

      CBS Poll says Romney gets better marks on immigration, that tells me all I need to know right there. The CBS/NY Times poll is Bull Shit.

  85. 327 utaustinliberal
    July 18, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    Obama 2012 is working. 🙂

  86. July 18, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    Folks, the polls are taking inti account the Viter Id Laws, but it’s a guess. So, it’s not scientific, by any means.

    • 329 hopefruit2
      July 18, 2012 at 8:10 pm

      Jovie, the poll is BOGUS and FLAWED – regardless of how you spin it. This has nothing to do with voter ID laws. Take for example the results for these two items:

      Item 1: that PBO supposedly leads Romney by double digits (52-38) on “who do you think will do more to help the middle-class?”

      Item 2: Yet PBO trails Romney (41-49) on “who will do a better job handling the economy/jobs?”

      A sound economy is contingent upon a thriving middle-class. The two things go hand in hand, cannot have one without the other.

      These two questions are essentially asking the SAME THING but just using different words. The results for both items should be going in the same direction, that is, the same candidate who’s leading for the first question should also be leading for the second question. The fact that the results are going in opposite direction suggest that this poll lacks internal consistency (reliability) and therefore NONE of the results can be interpreted to be a valid indicator.

    • 331 hopefruit2
      July 18, 2012 at 8:20 pm

      Furthermore, according to the SAME poll, nearly half of voters BLAME bush for the bad economy and feel that Romney will continue Bush’s policies, and feel that Romney will continue those same policies. Yet they give Romney the edge over Obama for the economy? Nothing in this poll makes sense because it’s BOGUS.

  87. 333 socasweet
    July 18, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    In the CBS/NYT Poll POTUS leads among women by 5 pts and Romney leads among men by 8 pts. LOL

  88. July 18, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    Fox news poll has the President up 4, Gallup has the President up 2.
    But, Ny Tines and Rasmussen has the President down 1.
    Any questions?

  89. 336 Dudette
    July 18, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    Hey, this seems to indicate the name of FLOTUS’ plane is “Bright Star”. Cool!


  90. July 18, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    Florida Prisons to go ahead with Privatizing Healthcare.
    Ok then!

  91. 338 LunarSea
    July 18, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    Okay, just got here and over 300 post on this thread alone. Not even taking into account the previous posts, it looks like I must have missed a lot. Maybe someone can give me a quick run down on the most memorable happenings of the day. Besides Syria, that is. That one I’ve been hearing about. All the rest I missed.


    • 339 vcprezofan2
      July 18, 2012 at 8:19 pm

      psst, Lunar! When they fill you in, please share. I’m just returning – left part way through Rise ‘n Shine. 😉

      • 340 LunarSea
        July 18, 2012 at 8:29 pm

        will do LOL – Feels much better knowing I’m not the only one feeling clueless. Problem is I know if I go back and read through, following links etc, by the time I get caught up to here there will either be another post with over 100 comments or I’ll be ready for bed.

    • July 18, 2012 at 8:27 pm

      CBS News has taken over this Blog, do not touch that dial!

      • 343 LunarSea
        July 18, 2012 at 8:34 pm

        Is that good or bad? My inclination is towards bad.

      • 344 hopefruit2
        July 18, 2012 at 8:38 pm

        CBS News has not taken over the blog. We’re simply pointing how ludicrous this recently released polling data is and letting regular posters AND lurkers alike be aware of the MSM and corporate pollsters’ tendency to rig their samples, manufacture data at will -and engage in other shenanigans aimed at helping Mitt Romney in this presidential election.

        Every time a seemingly strange poll comes out, we usually examine it closely for validity and let people know whether we think the results are valid and why or why not. That’s what responsible citizens who care about an informed electorate do.

        • 346 LunarSea
          July 18, 2012 at 9:40 pm

          The only polls I believe are the ones coming out of the Obama/Biden campaign and they are not releasing any so I’m gonna work like we’re 10 pts down and wait for the only poll that matters on Nov 6th.

          I scroll past a whole lot of polls comments, but I appreciate the diligence others do to calm fairs and reveal the truth of these for all to see.

          When did we become so obsessed with polls? It was right after the last election that they began polling this president daily. I have never seen anything like it before. It’s a damn shame and a sham used to drive the horse race narrative the media so loves. And I might add it really gets people wound up tight.

  92. 347 criquet
    July 18, 2012 at 8:20 pm

  93. July 18, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    The most Poignant thing that happened all Day was Bernanke statement.
    He said, if Congress does nothing about the fiscal cliff(not jobs) then a recession is likely.
    He is basically telling Congress to renew the Bush taxcuts, but no mention of Jobs bills or Stimulus. Then, he gave a doom and gloom report of the Economy, even though he refuses to do absolutely nothing about it.
    This is Amazing!

  94. 354 Dudette
    July 18, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    Ed Schultz will have Wayne Powell on later in tonight’s show. Mr. Powell is running to unseat Eric Cantor in the VA 7th District!

  95. July 18, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    Alexblx ‏@Alexblx
    2DAY’S #Syria REGIME BOMBINGS – HOW IT HAPPENED: “senior rebel officials told #DailyTelegraph that bombs hidden (cont)

    2DAY’S #Syria REGIME BOMBINGS – HOW IT HAPPENED: “senior rebel officials told #DailyTelegraph that bombs hidden in a flower arrangement and a chocolate box were remotely detonated by defectors working to bring down the regime from within.

    “There were two bombs,” Louay alMokdad, the Free Syrian Army’s logistical coordinator said.

    “One was hidden in a packet of chocolates and one in a big flower pro that was in the middle of the table of the conference room in the National Security building.”

    The operation was conducted by a group of Free Syrian Army members in collaboration with drivers and bodyguards working for members of Assad’s inner circle, he added – a version repeated by other activists.

    The two devices, one made of twenty-five pounds of TNT, and the other a smaller ‘C4’ plastic explosive device, were said to have been planted in the room days before the meeting by an opposition mole working for Gen Ikhtiyar, the wounded intelligence chief.

    Mr alMokdad claimed that the meeting may have been led by either President Assad himself or by his powerful brother Maher, who has been the regime’s battlefield commander in the uprising.

    “I have just spoken with the driver who brought the explosive package,” he said. “He is trying to understand who led the meeting; whether it was Bashar or Maher”.


  96. July 18, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    our reliable poll comrade:

  97. July 18, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    I just finished watching my DVR’d shows from earlier and saw that Elizabeth Hasselbeck was repeating the spliced and diced lie about what President Obama said about small businesses. She repeated the Fox News drivel word for word. I just finished tweeting her with the full video, quotes of what he said etc, and told her to stop repeating the lies she hears on Fox on The View. I know it won’t matter, but she gets on my nerves.

  98. 363 utaustinliberal
    July 18, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    The CBS poll is complete BS. They weighted the poll by increasing the number of republicans polled by 5% yet they expect voters to believe the poll is factual? Hahahahahahaha.

  99. July 18, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    Just saw the “Firm” ad here in Florida at MSNBC!

  100. 365 utaustinliberal
    July 18, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    Let’s spread the word guys, the new CBS poll is complete hogwash!

    • 366 hopefruit2
      July 18, 2012 at 8:55 pm

      Thanks UT for tirelessly setting the record straight on Twitter by disseminating these pellets of fact-based information and credible analysis.

      Some people have been saying that we shouldn’t worry about the polls because we know the media lies, etc., but that’s not the point. Yes we know that these polls are bogus, but our next door neighbor who isn’t a political junkie and who works a typical 9-5 job comes home from work and sits in front of the cable networks at news time to be fed this garbage day after day after day, with no other source of info.

      If we sit back and allow the MSM to spread their toxic stuff with zero pushback and no correction of their lies and distortion, we are not part of the solution, we are part of the problem. A lazy, uninformed electorate is a danger to democracy and to the advancement of society.

    • 367 LunarSea
      July 18, 2012 at 9:42 pm

      You go girl! Twitterific

    • 368 Prettyfoot58
      July 18, 2012 at 9:52 pm

      Romney could not change the conversation…so MSM tries…but we know this poll is jive…

    • 369 nathkatun7
      July 18, 2012 at 10:18 pm

      UT, you are truly a worrier for TRUTH! I just love all your tweets.

  101. July 18, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    Good night to the lovely Chips and everyone at the Obama Diary.

    When I saw this I thought about you guys. It’s a really inspirational video showing how music and dancing bonds all of us.

  102. 372 utaustinliberal
    July 18, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    And the BS continues. The desperation of the media is laughable and pathetic.

  103. 373 utaustinliberal
    July 18, 2012 at 8:56 pm

  104. 377 japa21
    July 18, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    Although this comment is in response to a comment Linda posted upthread, I wanted to say it here because I know a lot of people just head to the bottom at time. She was quoting an article from TPM which went:

    Even as his campaign reportedly gears up for negative attacks on President Obama, there are some lines Mitt Romney apparently won’t cross.

    At a town hall meeting in Ohio Tuesday, Romney was asked a question by a woman who called Obama “a monster.”

    “That’s not the term I would use,” Romney said.

    Sorry folks, this does not mean he wouldn’t cross the line. If it really menat that, he would have totally rejected her statement out of hand, like McCain did in 2008 when a woman said o him that she was scared of PBO because he was a Muslim.

    What kind of comment is “That’s not the term I would use”? What would he use, ogre, despicable being, worthless excuse for a human being, or n****r?

    This is like when he was asked about Limbaugh’s comments about Fluke and his response was “I would have chosen different words.” The man is a coward.

  105. 384 hopefruit2
    July 18, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    Let me just be among the first to say that I’m not falling for John McCain’s sudden display of “goodness” via his very dramatic and vocal defense of that DEM aide. This again is yet another ploy to distract people and get McCain off the hook for being silent about Romney’s tax returns (which McCain saw and knows about).

    • 385 amk for obama
      July 18, 2012 at 9:18 pm

      What dem aide, hf ? The cowardly mittbot is attacking aides now ?

    • July 18, 2012 at 9:26 pm

      I don’t disagree, but I think part of the reason he did it is because he and HRC were/are tight and Huma Abedin has been her personal assistant for years and years.

      • 392 hopefruit2
        July 18, 2012 at 9:31 pm

        Okay, but then he could do it without much fanfare, but no he is busy shouting on the loudspeaker how he rescued the poor lady from the burning building…

        When I have my friends’ back and they have mine, we don’t go yelling about it on loudspeaker. We simply do what needs to be done and move on….

        • July 18, 2012 at 9:35 pm

          He’s an attention whore, to be SURE.

          • 394 hopefruit2
            July 18, 2012 at 9:37 pm

            He wants THIS to be the news instead of the issue that everyone knows SHOULD be the news. He had absolutely nothing to say when Stupunu called PBO unamerican in his racist rant. McCain is not fooling anyone, certainly not me.

            • 395 anniebella
              July 18, 2012 at 10:16 pm

              I’m with you hopefruit2. McCain went along with McConnel ‘s plan to bring down President Obama. Blocking job bills which could put millions back to work, so praising McCain for doing a decent thing won’t go that far with me. What about the folks out there struggling for work, losing their homes, where were McCain leadership then? Still mad cause President Obama defeated him.

  106. 396 amk for obama
    July 18, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    GM folks.

    I see that ut and Bob are knocking the cbs bs on twitter. Well done you.

  107. 399 amk for obama
    July 18, 2012 at 9:23 pm
  108. 402 hopefruit2
    July 18, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    For a good part of today Michelle Bachman and Huma Abedin are trending on Twitter, with John McCain’s heroism being featured over and over in the MSM.

    None of these three individuals are running for President and there is a very important issue of Mitt Romney’s tax returns that’s being sidetracked.. The GOP must be happy.

  109. 403 hopefruit2
    July 18, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    Where’s our Chips? I hope she didn’t get one of those nasty storms that zipped through the Midwest through the Northeast.

  110. 404 LunarSea
    July 18, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    Okay with all that’s coming down on Robme’s head right now, this may be a good time to start a Michelle Bachmann for Pres campaign. That’s bound to chase the last of the sane republicans away from the GOP so that it is 100% the party of fringe dwellers. Gollum could be her VP pic.

    Couldn’t you just see the SOTU address with Pres. Bachmann(all bug eyed and spooky) and VP Gollum? He’d be sitting behind her whispering loudly, ‘my precccioussss’ and she’d be basking in the glow of his unabashed admiration. LOL

  111. 406 susanne
    July 18, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    five rules for capitalists in politics–lessons from the r’money drama

    my favorite is #4–if you have a lot of money, give a lot of money away. tithing to your church or setting up trusts for your kids does not count.

    • 407 Cha
      July 18, 2012 at 10:39 pm

      #5.When you leave a position, leave the position. Make a clean break. If you don’t, you will have a hard time arguing you are not responsible for what happened after you kinda-sorta departed, but were still CEO and sole owner. Sure, you may not be able to claim credit for good things that happen after you’re gone. But you won’t be on the hook for developments that are politically unpalatable, and possibly a serious threat to your presidential hopes.

      Mahalos susanne~

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