There’s my President and ‘his’ kids hugging as many as his hands can reach. 🙂 Good thing he has large hands and a huge heart. Thanks, CC! Just what the doctor ordered! 😆
Oh yeah! Isn’t she great? 😀 😀 She knows her children by name and preferences. 😆
[ps. Don’t tell her I said this, but it’s one of the reasons I keep coming back. There’s a certain comfort in knowing that you are known and accepted (as quiet and unobtrusive) so you can be yourself.]
The thing was, the window to write in was still there, but my identifying information and the button to “Post Comment” appeared briefly, and then disappeared…
That happens me sometimes too Ralph, ie the ‘post comment’ button disappearing – all I can do is refresh the page. Infuriating! Sorry about this Ralph.
Hi Christi, I see we raced over together! That’s one funny clip. 😆 😆 Of course, it makes me marvel at the capability of modern technology, while questioning if I can ever again trust my eyes other than in ‘real life’.
Nah, we arrived together! The gate was just too narrow for a side by side entry so you graciously stepped aside. I stepped in because I knew if we stopped to debate it someone else would just have squeezed past. 😉 😉
Chips, it is me who used to be SanPPTX (I think). Also could be the iPad shows up under sandee@regaug.com. Back in 07/08, I went by boomer7 on the OFA blog. Have not made many comments , but check in here many times per day. It is my home and all TODville, my family, though few “know” me. Have vowed to interact more in the weeks to come, if I feel brave enough. So please put me on the okay list when you get a chance. I will just be reading all the good stuff here in the meantime. Love you Ms Chips.
Welcome Sandee!!! So sorry if you got stuck in pending/spam land, GREAT to have you here! And please comment whenever you want, we’d love to hear from you! Thanks a million for visiting.
Aaah, Sandee! One of those family members who move away and with whom you lose contact. 😆 Well the door here is always open and we welcome the prodiGAL without the need for any bravery on their part. All we ask is that you always show respect to the patriarch. So brush your traveling feet off, make yourself comfortable and let’s get to know each other. I’m the quiet one (and don’t let anybody tell you otherwise). 😉
VC: thanks for the welcome, and the encouragement. BTW, since I’m a long time visitor here, that ” quiet one” dog won’t hunt. Just saying’! JK…love your spunkiness girl!
I watch cnn international and most of the time they just cut to the useless hacks in us of a. Y’day I turned on cnn to watch PBO and they were showing mittbot lying about ACA and that cut to the atlanta studio with that porcine whatshername.
Beautiful, Baby O’Donna! CNN struggles to get 5 million followers, probably over a decade (Ha!), and Chips gets 11 million hits in an hour. Sounds about right, from a value-added perspective.
Chips, it never fails to happen. I post an extremely well writtn an cogent statement which would unoubtedly dazzle everybody, post it and see you have already gone to a new post. SIGH
Anyway, I was responding to 57andfemale about her observation of more positive coverage in the local news (in this case Chicago) about what the ACA does. I was mentioning how one of our local channels WGN has two so called experts, one Dem and one GOP and how both are really pathetic, and how the GOP defender called the upholdiong of the ACA as a lsoign proposition for PBO and basically sealed the election for Romney because the court ruled it A tax. The Dem did not really opush back against that, Anyway, that is when I wrote:
I would really like for people to say:
“Look, actually the SC upheld the mandate on Commerce Clause grounds. 80% of the Justices who upheld the law did it on that basis. Only 1 Justice argued it was constitutional as a tax. But even if you do want to consider it a tax, it only applies to the small minority who refuse to accept personal responsibility and obtain insurance. And you know who would pay for their healthcare if they had a major illness or accident? The rest of the taxpayers. The people who accept that repsonsbility would pay for it through higher costs for their insurance and higher charges from the health care providers. Are you endorsing freeloading?”
And I wanted to add that I am seeing a lot of new names here. Cool.
Exactly right, japa…this tax thing will blow up in their faces. The god Norquist needs to be exposed once and for all as the biggest freeloader on the planet! As should every single bone head Republican that signed his bogus pledge! THEY ARE ALL FREELOADERS NOW! Tax is not a dirty word, but a way to ensure that a civilized society benefits equally from the things that we all benefit from. Even if we’re not talking about healthcare, they don’t want taxes for anything! To repair roads, bridges, schools,internet,clean air, clean water,post offices,and yes, healthcare. WE ALL USE THIS, and THEY don’t want to pay for it! The party of pretend “responsibility” doesn’t want to take any responsibility! They want to use roads, bridges,healthcare, internet, get clean air and water….for FREE! Or…make everyone ELSE pay FOR them! I’d say it just like that…I dare them.
The other thing is, maybe with another Republican candidate this tax argument would hold more water…but Mitt did this exact same thing in MA.It’s the law there…been the law. I don’t see how he harps on this with any of it sticking…in fact, I think it may just turn a lot of independent voters off….and make the point of Romney’s lies even more clear to those indies…and anyone else that cares to pay attention.
Good morning everyone! So many threads, so little time…. WONDERFUL coverage of all the health care joy today, thanks so much to you, Ms Chips… and CONGRATS on 11 million hits, fantastic, and so well-deserved!
He got the moves! So, how long do we think until Myth and his mob of imbeciles try to spin that by passing a health care program in MA, he is the ‘true creator’ of the ACA? Or is he already trying to grab it? I’m off to work, everyone, have a blessed day!
Hey…if he wants Romneycare hung around his neck….works for me! Can’t have it both ways…can’t say you want to repeal this law, and in the same breath embrace the ACA as your own.
Even if Romney tries to claim credit for Romneycare, then there’s enough evidence to show that it was a good start, but there were tons of issues with the thing (no cost controls), and Governor Deval Patrick was the one who got the thing sorted so that it actually works.
You are such an extortionist! I believe your mom tried to teach you that a simple ‘thank you’ is often enough for a lot of things – search your memory.
I read this comment on another blog – supposedly paraphrased from a manual on psychological warfare: “When faced with an enemy that promulgates conspiracy theories that exceed the boundaries of reason, it is a highly effective form of disruption to inject “obviously crazy” memes into the enemy’s constituency.”
June 28, 2012 with their reaction to the SCOTUS decision and the contempt of Congress vote may well be remembered as the day the Republican Party went over the edge into complete “craziness”.
Good Morning – thank you for allowing me to post on the WONDERFUL site. I am still basking in the afterglow of yesterdays SC ruling. I have been coming to this site for some time and have learned so much, laughed so loud and truley feel this is the place for getting the news. Oh – one more thought – What a man, what a man, what a mighty good man!
This is what we can repeatedly and simply point out to our contacts, GOP has nothing to offer YOU. We can start our reminders with today’s admission, but the GOP have provided many examples with which we can continue the dialogue
All Republicans can offer the nation is the word 'NO', NOTHING MORE! NO JOBS. NO HEALTHCARE. NO LEADERSHIP. Just 'No'. http://t.co/PIc9UgGQ
Crossroads is going up against Heitcamp I ND, for what they call Obama tax.
They are trying to divide and conquer, and when you have People like McCaskil and Manchin…!
Obamacare being upheld may be one thing contributing. But it’s mostly that the EU got its act together and has a plan for stronger fiscal and political union, as well as a plan to prop up the banks from EU funds, rather than leaving it up to the member nations to do it.
In the wake of Mitt Romney’s 24-hour fundraising blitz, President Obama’s Chicago-based reelection campaign is claiming that they’ve actually raised more.
“We’ve outraised the Romney campaign in that time period but that’s not the point – our supporters are more committed than ever to ensuring that insurance companies can’t drop coverage for people who get sick or discriminate against people with preexisting conditions by reelecting the President,” campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt said in an email.
“It’s perverse that Mitt Romney wont share details about what he’d do for the millions he’d leave uninsured or at the whims of insurance companies when he ‘kills Obamacare dead,’ but he’ll share the hourly details of his fundraising after the Supreme Court ruling,” LaBolt said.
In the 24 hours since health care’s passage, Romney claimed a $4.6 million haul from more than 47,000 donors — at an average donation of $100 per person. The Obama campaign would not comment on the amount raised.
HuffPost blamed CNN for getting wrong. Proves, what the president said in April at WHCD, HuffPost links and posts other people’s hard work…..in this case, their mistake too, while Arianna Pockets the cash?
Recycling, in case you were wondering, but also a way of cutting down on the dangerous amounts of junk in orbit, which could reach a tipping point, start shredding each other and exponentially increasing shrapnel until everything starts going down.
The highway, student loan and flood insurance package Congress is expected to approve today includes provisions that would raise $20 billion in new tax and fee revenues from companies.
One of the new measures would adjust the way pension liabilities are measured for companies. Currently, companies are generally required to contribute more into their pension plans because interest rates are at historic lows.
I told you, the Arab League, the Muslim moderates, need to get involved. Viola!
Let’s hope it works.
Remember, the Saudi Prince just came to wh last week… Hmmmm!
Will know more, LL, in the next 48 h. ~ 10 days ago when I suggested that we would likely see significant events in the days ahead we already had hints that the momentum had clearly shifted to the FSA. From what little I know, it seems Syria has become the tourist destination of choice in the past few months and the height of the season appears to be soon upon us 😉
And, note that ASSad has now been reduced to firing rockets and artillery at his key commercial center of Aleppo … that’s definitely not ‘good news for McCain’ … 😉
In the wake of Mitt Romney’s 24-hour fundraising blitz, President Obama’s Chicago-based reelection campaign is claiming that they’ve actually raised more.
“We’ve outraised the Romney campaign in that time period but that’s not the point – our supporters are more committed than ever to ensuring that insurance companies can’t drop coverage for people who get sick or discriminate against people with preexisting conditions by reelecting the President,” campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt said in an email.
“It’s perverse that Mitt Romney wont share details about what he’d do for the millions he’d leave uninsured or at the whims of insurance companies when he ‘kills Obamacare dead,’ but he’ll share the hourly details of his fundraising after the Supreme Court ruling,” LaBolt said.
In the 24 hours since health care’s passage, Romney claimed a $4.6 million haul from more than 47,000 donors — at an average donation of $100 per person. The Obama campaign would not comment on the amount raised.
I’m so thrilled I can’t stand it. Chips, you have done so much to make this happen. CHEERS.
I was able to raise $500 myself yesterday in both small and large donations, thanks to the gorgeous generous people here. Every dollar counts and every donation is just a complete THRILL. You are all just beyond amazing.
First it was 2 mil, then it was 2.5 mil and now it’s 4.6 mil suddenly? I call it bullshit. As usual, the truth of these numbers will come out in a week or two.
The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) on Friday said the combined highway, student loan and flood insurance package coming up for votes in Congress would reduce the deficit by $16.3 billion over 10 years.
The bill funds highway programs for two years and prevents a doubling of interest rates on Stafford student loans for one year.
The CBO’s score is unlikely to sway some conservatives who are objecting to the bill over the level of spending it contains. Heritage Action and the Club for Growth are against the bill and urging lawmakers to vote no.
SELLING HEALTHCARE REFORM – A SECOND BITE AT THE APPLE
As Rachel Maddow reported last night, when President Obama spoke to the nation about the SC ruling he was a human brochure for the Affordable Care Act. He ticked off the elements in fine fashion. He provided a very effective ad for Obamacare while he had the attention of the nation.
The Republican Party succeeded in demonizing the ACA back in 2010 with staged town halls and deceptive ads. But one of the best things to come out of the SC ruling is that it gives the Democrats another bite at the apple to explain the the elements of ACA. Polling shows overall support for the ACA is low, but there is support for individual elements on both sides of the aisle.
Rachel Maddow makes the case for why the real benefit to Democrats of the Supreme Court’s upholding of the ACA is that they can campaign on it’s politically popular components provided they can compete with the massively funded opposition advertising that will run over the course of the unduly long 4 years.
A second chance for the Democrats to make the case for health care.
Actor George Clooney, who hosted a high-profile fundraiser for President Barack Obama at his home in May, is heading to Switzerland this summer for another campaign event.
Clooney will attend a fundraiser the president’s re-election in Geneva on August 27, according to an invitation on the campaign’s website.
It’s part of the quest to leave no source of fundraising untapped — and that includes expatriate overseas donors. Other Obama fundraisers have held overseas events for the campaign — and the Daily’s Dan Hirschhorn reported that Mitt Romney was weighing a fundraiser in Israel.
Starting Sunday, grad students to pay interest while in school, undergrads lose 6-month grace period
Reuters
9:34 a.m. CDT, June 28, 2012
College students are facing a roughly $20 billion increase in the cost of their federal loans, despite a much-heralded deal in Washington to contain the expense of higher education.
Starting Sunday, students hoping to earn the graduate degrees that have become mandatory for many white-collar jobs will become responsible for paying the interest on their federal loans while they are in school and immediately after they graduate. That means they’ll have to pay an extra $18 billion out of pocket over the next decade.
Meanwhile, the government will no longer cover the interest on undergraduate loans during the six months after students finish school. That’s expected to cost them more than $2 billion.
These changes have received little attention as lawmakers instead focus on preventing a spike in interest rates on federal student loans. They are the fallout of earlier political battles and compromises over broader issues such as the federal budget and the national debt ceiling. And they are forcing students such as Clarise McCants to make tough choices about how to pursue academic goals without jeopardizing financial security.
“I don’t want to hastily make a decision that could waste thousands of dollars I don’t have,” said McCants, who said she will have to put off graduate school after finishing her undergraduate degree at Howard University in the spring. “That could kind of prove disastrous for my finances.”
As Michelle Obama has often told us the president goes big and long. I think the major “selling” of Obama care that all of us have wanted has been waiting for this SCOTUS action. The president was biding his time waiting to see whether the bill would survive in tact. Now the path is clear for a major push and I think we’re going to see a big marketing campaign with lots of examples of the people helped and lots of “just the facts ma’am” ads. Remember when the president waited until after the debt ceiling crisis was passed and the deal cut and then starting lighting into congress and calling them on their idiocy? He was holding his cards until the debt ceiling issue was safely in harbor. I think we’re going to see the same thing on health care in the days and weeks ahead. The SCOTUS decision freed the president to act and when he does he’s unstoppable.
I totally agree. Not only will you see the massive marketing campaign (which we have already been seeing some of it) I would not be surprised if the President’s timetable on implementation of certain aspects of the law isn’t moved up considerably. Several things went into effect early. Sebellius is amazing and I think things are further along than we think.
Ding ding ding. Exactly. All in due time. Hello Jackie, and Jackie. 😀 This is exactly why he hedged when asked several times about his messaging. I remember this vividly. Come on, PBO deficient in messaging? Not !! Jackiegrumbacher, I thank you for the info you posted earlier regarding Pennsylvania voting requirements. Will add it to my info pack.
TODville, how about we take any opportunity today to thank someone in the Obama Admin by name, not necessarily a front line person. Look up their position or name or twitter handle on the google. It won’t take long if we have someone in mind. We send messages when they mess up, and yes they didn’t make this SC decision, but it’s the best opportunity we’ve had recently to send positive messages. Everyone, well mostly everyone, enjoys a pat on the shoulder from time to time. MSM puts spin on their made up news all the time. Why shouldn’t we put a positive spin on our very real good news? What do you say?
IMO today is a great occasion 2 reach out 2 somebody SPECIFIC at White House/Obama campaign with a pat on the back. Let's use the moment
Hi TOD family. Second day of dirty dancing! With the SC’s decision upholding Obamacare and my new ‘puter (can post again)…well “I’m Having the Time of My Life”. Hope all who are able has sent the Obama Campaign a little dough-ray-me.
Happy 11 million plus Chips- wow what a day yesterday indeed. My family lost two Aunts in the past week.. and thus a funeral yesterday & another coming up on Monday- so I’ve missed so much of the celebrations here. But I’m truly thrilled & grateful that the Supreme court did the right thing, and so proud of President Obama. And I’m proud of the many Dems yesterday who walked out on that sham of a contempt vote. Happy friday to all!
thank you jojo.. they were both elderly and failing a bit, but they went suddenly and it has been tough on their kids & grandkids… and everyone is at my mom’s house- so she’s wearing herself out a bit- its been hard on her.. anyhow, we’re coping and spending time together w/ cousins I haven’t seen in years- so theres good here too.
Sherijr, I know I am real late on this thread, but my heart felt condolence to you and your family on the lost of your aunties. I hope you are doing well. From your initial post you are a true testimonial to Character.
I think I am going to fill out that survey thing again and suggest that now that ACA has been settled by the SC that the campaign do a “Did You Know” series listing in each video for real tv not just the web the benefits of Obamacare and how it affects us personally.
Great idea, donna dem. Personal, positive stories spread in every conceivable venue will be a great counter to the repub’s claim that Obama’s mandate is somehow a huge tax increase.
Good idea donna. I noticed how well the latino DEAM order that the President made last week went over with many voters. I think that was because the videos of all those young people crying and becoming so emotional when PBO made the announcement was very moving to people. I suspect that is the way to go with ACA – images of ordinary people ecstatic, crying with relief, happiness etc that the bill was passed (almost twice). Crowd scenes work very well in helping viewers identify with those represented onscreen. One of the best, most emtional clips that TOD has ever uploaded comes from the National Geographic documentary on Pete Souza (about 2 or three minutes on the passing of ACA). Hope this suggestion isn’t too presumptious.
Donna – I’m going to email a suggestion to the White House – not the campaign – that they immediately use MY TAX DOLLARS by issuing letters explaining the provisions of the ACA and send them to each household in America, so the truth can go directly to the masses. The letter can be signed by President Obama, similar to letters that have gone out in the past when people are getting across-the-board rebate checks and the like (including seniors). That is a legitimate governmental expense.
Fools who do not actually know what’s in ACA but continue to listen to FOX, et al., should get these letters. And the letters could borrow from a phrase going’ round recently, that I loved, used in a postscript:
P.S. I love the sound you make when you STFU. /s/ PBO
…Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley (D) took a heck of a shot at Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) Friday on a conference call organized by the Obama campaign following the Supreme Court’s health care ruling.
“The only health care mandate they can embrace are transvaginal probes for women,” he said of Republicans. McDonnell signed a mandatory ultrasound bill in March that required women to have an ultrasound before getting an abortion. The bill was later revised, allowing women to opt for an abdominal ultrasound.
Mitt Romney’s campaign has raised $4.2 million in online donations since the Supreme Court health care ruling, press secretary Andrea Saul tweeted early Friday:
Fundraising update for #FullRepeal: 42k+ donations, $4.2 million raised online for @MittRomney since #scotus decision
— Andrea Saul (@andreamsaul) June 29, 2012
I have to say, after the media jerked us around for weeks on this decision, I just have to keep pinching myself to realize ACA was upheld. I’m absolutely giddy this morning.
ON FREE RIDER PENALTY, MARCO RUBIO’S PROVIDES INCOHERENT WORD SALAD
With friends like Rubio…
By Steve Benen
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Now it’s falling on Rubio to defend Romney’s health care reform law, which happens to be nearly identical to President Obama’s health care reform law. Specifically, Rubio was tasked with explaining why Obama’s tax penalty for failing to have insurance is outrageous, but Romney’s identical tax policy for failing to have insurance is perfectly acceptable.
The defense isn’t coming together especially well (thanks to Dan Sachar for the tip).
The immediate response to the Democrats’ tax rebuttal from Republicans was less than impressive.
Romney “supported it on the state level. Which means if you didn’t like it in Massachusetts, you could move to another state,” Rubio said on Bloomberg Television. “What are people supposed to do? Leave the United States now because of Barack Obama’s brilliant idea to stick the IRS on millions of people? More importantly, the state of Massachusetts doesn’t have the IRS.”
Obama White House.gov
I’m here.
Yes I noticed lol…first again!….
Helloooooooooooooooo VC 😉
There’s my President and ‘his’ kids hugging as many as his hands can reach. 🙂 Good thing he has large hands and a huge heart. Thanks, CC! Just what the doctor ordered! 😆
Chips has a good memory! She knows you prefer pictures of the President with children…..
Oh yeah! Isn’t she great? 😀 😀 She knows her children by name and preferences. 😆
[ps. Don’t tell her I said this, but it’s one of the reasons I keep coming back. There’s a certain comfort in knowing that you are known and accepted (as quiet and unobtrusive) so you can be yourself.]
lol hilarious,
Strange. I was locked out from posting directly, but I can still post replies…
Really Ralph? Completely weird, your comments aren’t even appearing in pending. WP drives me NUTS!!!!!!
The thing was, the window to write in was still there, but my identifying information and the button to “Post Comment” appeared briefly, and then disappeared…
That happens me sometimes too Ralph, ie the ‘post comment’ button disappearing – all I can do is refresh the page. Infuriating! Sorry about this Ralph.
Sometimes just re-clicking inside the box works, too.
Whatever!!
WP gremlins attacks again……
Hi Christi, I see we raced over together! That’s one funny clip. 😆 😆 Of course, it makes me marvel at the capability of modern technology, while questioning if I can ever again trust my eyes other than in ‘real life’.
Yes Vic and did you notice as well that you came first…again! lol…….I’m too slow for sure.
Nah, we arrived together! The gate was just too narrow for a side by side entry so you graciously stepped aside. I stepped in because I knew if we stopped to debate it someone else would just have squeezed past. 😉 😉
I thought it was genius. LOVED it.
That. Was. Awesome!
I.Agree.Awesome!
Concur!
Chips, it is me who used to be SanPPTX (I think). Also could be the iPad shows up under sandee@regaug.com. Back in 07/08, I went by boomer7 on the OFA blog. Have not made many comments , but check in here many times per day. It is my home and all TODville, my family, though few “know” me. Have vowed to interact more in the weeks to come, if I feel brave enough. So please put me on the okay list when you get a chance. I will just be reading all the good stuff here in the meantime. Love you Ms Chips.
Welcome Sandee!!! So sorry if you got stuck in pending/spam land, GREAT to have you here! And please comment whenever you want, we’d love to hear from you! Thanks a million for visiting.
Aaah, Sandee! One of those family members who move away and with whom you lose contact. 😆 Well the door here is always open and we welcome the prodiGAL without the need for any bravery on their part. All we ask is that you always show respect to the patriarch. So brush your traveling feet off, make yourself comfortable and let’s get to know each other. I’m the quiet one (and don’t let anybody tell you otherwise). 😉
VC: thanks for the welcome, and the encouragement. BTW, since I’m a long time visitor here, that ” quiet one” dog won’t hunt. Just saying’! JK…love your spunkiness girl!
😉 😉 Was worth a try, S, in case you hadn’t really been paying attention.
OMG Hilarious. Thanks Chips on my way to share this everywhere.
Donna, I think I’ve played it, oh, about 96 times already, I’m weepin’ laughin’ – literally!
I have this huge smile on my face…so fantastic! I love the end when he fixes his tie and then has this huge smile. Freaking.fantastic 😀
A TOTAL GIGGLE FEST. I can’t stop….
I just couldn’t resist 😉
Wooooooooooooooot!!!! 😆
Still a leader in journalism I see…”Thanks you”? Really?
Giving them the benefit of the doubt on this one by reading it as – CNN thanks you for ……. 😉
The mafia has taken over CNN…”Thanks yous”.
😆 Hi Jojo.
Hi vc, hows you doin’?
Great!
I read that they make a lot of profit from CNN International…….the rest is pathetic.
I watch cnn international and most of the time they just cut to the useless hacks in us of a. Y’day I turned on cnn to watch PBO and they were showing mittbot lying about ACA and that cut to the atlanta studio with that porcine whatshername.
5 million Worldwide is nothing to brag about..
Now Linda, it’s better than 4mill worldwide. Probably an example of positive spin. Tee hee hee.
Yeah, CNN’s new followers didn’t follow them for the reasons they think (but then I guess it doesn’t matter maybe)
Beautiful, Baby O’Donna! CNN struggles to get 5 million followers, probably over a decade (Ha!), and Chips gets 11 million hits in an hour. Sounds about right, from a value-added perspective.
rt’d
Chips, it never fails to happen. I post an extremely well writtn an cogent statement which would unoubtedly dazzle everybody, post it and see you have already gone to a new post. SIGH
Anyway, I was responding to 57andfemale about her observation of more positive coverage in the local news (in this case Chicago) about what the ACA does. I was mentioning how one of our local channels WGN has two so called experts, one Dem and one GOP and how both are really pathetic, and how the GOP defender called the upholdiong of the ACA as a lsoign proposition for PBO and basically sealed the election for Romney because the court ruled it A tax. The Dem did not really opush back against that, Anyway, that is when I wrote:
I would really like for people to say:
“Look, actually the SC upheld the mandate on Commerce Clause grounds. 80% of the Justices who upheld the law did it on that basis. Only 1 Justice argued it was constitutional as a tax. But even if you do want to consider it a tax, it only applies to the small minority who refuse to accept personal responsibility and obtain insurance. And you know who would pay for their healthcare if they had a major illness or accident? The rest of the taxpayers. The people who accept that repsonsbility would pay for it through higher costs for their insurance and higher charges from the health care providers. Are you endorsing freeloading?”
And I wanted to add that I am seeing a lot of new names here. Cool.
Exactly right, japa…this tax thing will blow up in their faces. The god Norquist needs to be exposed once and for all as the biggest freeloader on the planet! As should every single bone head Republican that signed his bogus pledge! THEY ARE ALL FREELOADERS NOW! Tax is not a dirty word, but a way to ensure that a civilized society benefits equally from the things that we all benefit from. Even if we’re not talking about healthcare, they don’t want taxes for anything! To repair roads, bridges, schools,internet,clean air, clean water,post offices,and yes, healthcare. WE ALL USE THIS, and THEY don’t want to pay for it! The party of pretend “responsibility” doesn’t want to take any responsibility! They want to use roads, bridges,healthcare, internet, get clean air and water….for FREE! Or…make everyone ELSE pay FOR them! I’d say it just like that…I dare them.
The other thing is, maybe with another Republican candidate this tax argument would hold more water…but Mitt did this exact same thing in MA.It’s the law there…been the law. I don’t see how he harps on this with any of it sticking…in fact, I think it may just turn a lot of independent voters off….and make the point of Romney’s lies even more clear to those indies…and anyone else that cares to pay attention.
Good morning everyone! So many threads, so little time…. WONDERFUL coverage of all the health care joy today, thanks so much to you, Ms Chips… and CONGRATS on 11 million hits, fantastic, and so well-deserved!
Love that video! Thanks from me, too, AMK.
He got the moves! So, how long do we think until Myth and his mob of imbeciles try to spin that by passing a health care program in MA, he is the ‘true creator’ of the ACA? Or is he already trying to grab it? I’m off to work, everyone, have a blessed day!
Hey…if he wants Romneycare hung around his neck….works for me! Can’t have it both ways…can’t say you want to repeal this law, and in the same breath embrace the ACA as your own.
If the gop had any other candidate, their plan to make the election about the ACA would work, but poor Mittens will be buried by Romneycare.
Even if Romney tries to claim credit for Romneycare, then there’s enough evidence to show that it was a good start, but there were tons of issues with the thing (no cost controls), and Governor Deval Patrick was the one who got the thing sorted so that it actually works.
“Thanks amk”. That’s it ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
😆 Have you any special requests amk?
You know what I want. Surprise me.
How about, hmm, this?
meanie…
‘Thank you, Chips’. Not ‘meanie’…’thank you’. Your mother is looking on and listening in. Make her proud.
Chocolate ice cream? Be still, my heart.
Ah jacquelineoboomer, a woman after my own heart! See amk? Some people appreciate deliciousness.
Deliciousness is good. (Thinkin’ about that chocolate ice cream, again! Yummy!)
We need to talk about your food tastes – cheese puffs, chocolate in icecreams ? /smh.
You are such an extortionist! I believe your mom tried to teach you that a simple ‘thank you’ is often enough for a lot of things – search your memory.
I remember the pot and kettle story. 🙂
Tee hee hee – selective memory. 😆 😆 Of course, honesty forces me to admit that’s why I can talk to this issue with confidence.
OK amk…. YOU ROCK! The video is priceless! : )))
Totally agree.
Taking ‘I’m rubber, you’re glue’ to the extreme
http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/29/12480732-taking-im-rubber-youre-glue-to-the-extreme?lite
I read this comment on another blog – supposedly paraphrased from a manual on psychological warfare: “When faced with an enemy that promulgates conspiracy theories that exceed the boundaries of reason, it is a highly effective form of disruption to inject “obviously crazy” memes into the enemy’s constituency.”
Yeah, you’re only thinking that because the Orbital Mind-Control Lasers are telling you to.
So there. =P =)
June 28, 2012 with their reaction to the SCOTUS decision and the contempt of Congress vote may well be remembered as the day the Republican Party went over the edge into complete “craziness”.
Totally agree, if not a date many years before that.
Their is DWS! She is on Thomas Roberts Show, sounds like She has a sore throat.
But, She is doing really good! We need Her.
Good Morning – thank you for allowing me to post on the WONDERFUL site. I am still basking in the afterglow of yesterdays SC ruling. I have been coming to this site for some time and have learned so much, laughed so loud and truley feel this is the place for getting the news. Oh – one more thought – What a man, what a man, what a mighty good man!
Welcome aboard SeptemberSandy and yes he is indeed a mighty good man 😉
http://www.trbimg.com/img-4fec78a6/turbine/la-pn-dems-ecstatic-gop-vows-fight-as-court-up-001/600
I love this picture..
Really Epic.
Thank you Obama!!!!!
Party of NO Ideas…is still the Party of No Ideas…
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/06/29/508793/lee-terry-replace-obamacare/
Republican Congressman Admits GOP Has ‘No’ Plan To Replace Obamacare
All this talking about healthcare these past 3 YEARS….nothing.Dead Zone. Zilch. Zip. Nada. Nobody Home.
This is what we can repeatedly and simply point out to our contacts, GOP has nothing to offer YOU. We can start our reminders with today’s admission, but the GOP have provided many examples with which we can continue the dialogue
Good morning all.
OMG, This video is the best. I am “deading” with laughter, tears and all. This is too good.
Oh shit…#1 GOP talking point..flaming out!!!!
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/06/29/508749/obamacare-middle-class-taxes/
Why Obamacare Is A Tax Cut For Millions Of Americans
Crossroads is going up against Heitcamp I ND, for what they call Obama tax.
They are trying to divide and conquer, and when you have People like McCaskil and Manchin…!
thinkprogress Dow up 205 points today #obamacare
about 1 hour ago · reply · retweet · favorite
Just sayin’….
Obamacare being upheld may be one thing contributing. But it’s mostly that the EU got its act together and has a plan for stronger fiscal and political union, as well as a plan to prop up the banks from EU funds, rather than leaving it up to the member nations to do it.
LOL! That video is GREAT! I needed a good laugh this morning! Thanks for posting it, Chips! 😀
Welcome to the newbies here today. Hope you will be our permanent guests./ sd TOD’ers.
Isn’t it great! I’m so glad Chips opened up the guest list 😉
I was sharing that money bomb link everywhere on the internet yesterday so I thought we might get some newbies.
So glad to see them posting this morning. We Need ALL Hands On Deck for this years re-election. Yippee!!!!
Yes! What amk said:) Welcome!
Got donations?-
In the wake of Mitt Romney’s 24-hour fundraising blitz, President Obama’s Chicago-based reelection campaign is claiming that they’ve actually raised more.
“We’ve outraised the Romney campaign in that time period but that’s not the point – our supporters are more committed than ever to ensuring that insurance companies can’t drop coverage for people who get sick or discriminate against people with preexisting conditions by reelecting the President,” campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt said in an email.
“It’s perverse that Mitt Romney wont share details about what he’d do for the millions he’d leave uninsured or at the whims of insurance companies when he ‘kills Obamacare dead,’ but he’ll share the hourly details of his fundraising after the Supreme Court ruling,” LaBolt said.
In the 24 hours since health care’s passage, Romney claimed a $4.6 million haul from more than 47,000 donors — at an average donation of $100 per person. The Obama campaign would not comment on the amount raised.
We Win!!!!!
what mitt would do:
‘are there no prisons? are there no workhouses?’
Huffpo also screwed this up why aren’t they “investigating” themselves?
firebaggers=teabaggers. They are nevah wrong and clueless. Fuck’em.
🙂
HuffPost blamed CNN for getting wrong. Proves, what the president said in April at WHCD, HuffPost links and posts other people’s hard work…..in this case, their mistake too, while Arianna Pockets the cash?
Other news outlets were relying on CNN.
They got their report from pox and tnn?
IN THEIR ZEAL TO REPORT BAD NEWS FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA THEY INSTEAD SHOWED US WHO THEY ARE. SHAMELESS WATER CARRIERS FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
Peacock Mantis Shrimp’s Secret to Better Body Armor:
http://www.singularityweblog.com/peacock-mantis-shrimps-secret-to-better-body-armor/
Using the shrimp’s “clubs” as a guide to creating much stronger artificial materials.
Pentagon starts Phoenix trial to harvest defunct satellites, MacGyver new ones from orbit http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/28/pentagon-starts-phoenix-dead-satellite-trial/
Recycling, in case you were wondering, but also a way of cutting down on the dangerous amounts of junk in orbit, which could reach a tipping point, start shredding each other and exponentially increasing shrapnel until everything starts going down.
Which would be bad.
Imagine the stuff that we don’t know?
I often wonder what is going on in Area 51 and Dugway AFB?
LOOK at how we pay for this?-
The highway, student loan and flood insurance package Congress is expected to approve today includes provisions that would raise $20 billion in new tax and fee revenues from companies.
One of the new measures would adjust the way pension liabilities are measured for companies. Currently, companies are generally required to contribute more into their pension plans because interest rates are at historic lows.
http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money
Paging Norquist? LOL! LMAO!
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Good Morning My Lovelies!!!
What a great day!!! Gonna send a few more bucks my President’s way!
For those of you following Syria, this comment and tweet may be of interest:
http://gofreesyria.blogspot.com/2012/03/tired-of-western-influenced-media-tired.html#comment-571797587
Timing is everything, as they say ….
#Tweeps4OBAMA
Yes We Can
I told you, the Arab League, the Muslim moderates, need to get involved. Viola!
Let’s hope it works.
Remember, the Saudi Prince just came to wh last week… Hmmmm!
Holy crap! That’s a BFD.
Of course, the image of the Saudis fighting for a people to throw off the yoke of tyranny is more than a bit mind-boggling.
Will know more, LL, in the next 48 h. ~ 10 days ago when I suggested that we would likely see significant events in the days ahead we already had hints that the momentum had clearly shifted to the FSA. From what little I know, it seems Syria has become the tourist destination of choice in the past few months and the height of the season appears to be soon upon us 😉
#Tweeps4OBAMA
#TWEETON
And, note that ASSad has now been reduced to firing rockets and artillery at his key commercial center of Aleppo … that’s definitely not ‘good news for McCain’ … 😉
#PRESSON
I FREAKING LOVE THE OBAMA TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In the wake of Mitt Romney’s 24-hour fundraising blitz, President Obama’s Chicago-based reelection campaign is claiming that they’ve actually raised more.
“We’ve outraised the Romney campaign in that time period but that’s not the point – our supporters are more committed than ever to ensuring that insurance companies can’t drop coverage for people who get sick or discriminate against people with preexisting conditions by reelecting the President,” campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt said in an email.
“It’s perverse that Mitt Romney wont share details about what he’d do for the millions he’d leave uninsured or at the whims of insurance companies when he ‘kills Obamacare dead,’ but he’ll share the hourly details of his fundraising after the Supreme Court ruling,” LaBolt said.
In the 24 hours since health care’s passage, Romney claimed a $4.6 million haul from more than 47,000 donors — at an average donation of $100 per person. The Obama campaign would not comment on the amount raised.
WOOOOOOOOTTTTT!!!!!!!! WOOOTIE WOOT WOOT!!!!
I’m so thrilled I can’t stand it. Chips, you have done so much to make this happen. CHEERS.
I was able to raise $500 myself yesterday in both small and large donations, thanks to the gorgeous generous people here. Every dollar counts and every donation is just a complete THRILL. You are all just beyond amazing.
I’m so happy for you 🙂
Thanks to you, sistah!
Go meta.
First it was 2 mil, then it was 2.5 mil and now it’s 4.6 mil suddenly? I call it bullshit. As usual, the truth of these numbers will come out in a week or two.
The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) on Friday said the combined highway, student loan and flood insurance package coming up for votes in Congress would reduce the deficit by $16.3 billion over 10 years.
The bill funds highway programs for two years and prevents a doubling of interest rates on Stafford student loans for one year.
The CBO’s score is unlikely to sway some conservatives who are objecting to the bill over the level of spending it contains. Heritage Action and the Club for Growth are against the bill and urging lawmakers to vote no.
http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/budget/235599-cbo-says-highway-bill-reduces-deficit
Avoid comment section.
SELLING HEALTHCARE REFORM – A SECOND BITE AT THE APPLE
As Rachel Maddow reported last night, when President Obama spoke to the nation about the SC ruling he was a human brochure for the Affordable Care Act. He ticked off the elements in fine fashion. He provided a very effective ad for Obamacare while he had the attention of the nation.
The Republican Party succeeded in demonizing the ACA back in 2010 with staged town halls and deceptive ads. But one of the best things to come out of the SC ruling is that it gives the Democrats another bite at the apple to explain the the elements of ACA. Polling shows overall support for the ACA is low, but there is support for individual elements on both sides of the aisle.
Rachel Maddow makes the case for why the real benefit to Democrats of the Supreme Court’s upholding of the ACA is that they can campaign on it’s politically popular components provided they can compete with the massively funded opposition advertising that will run over the course of the unduly long 4 years.
A second chance for the Democrats to make the case for health care.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/48006664#48006664
Did you guys know it was Solicitor General Don Verrill’s birthday? He is totally going to get wasted.
Happy B’Day to DV. Great job in arguing before the Supremes.
While that Jeffrey Tobin mix plays in the background.
Actor George Clooney, who hosted a high-profile fundraiser for President Barack Obama at his home in May, is heading to Switzerland this summer for another campaign event.
Clooney will attend a fundraiser the president’s re-election in Geneva on August 27, according to an invitation on the campaign’s website.
It’s part of the quest to leave no source of fundraising untapped — and that includes expatriate overseas donors. Other Obama fundraisers have held overseas events for the campaign — and the Daily’s Dan Hirschhorn reported that Mitt Romney was weighing a fundraiser in Israel.
Interesting!
GOTEAM.
No more grace period on student loans
Starting Sunday, grad students to pay interest while in school, undergrads lose 6-month grace period
Reuters
9:34 a.m. CDT, June 28, 2012
College students are facing a roughly $20 billion increase in the cost of their federal loans, despite a much-heralded deal in Washington to contain the expense of higher education.
Starting Sunday, students hoping to earn the graduate degrees that have become mandatory for many white-collar jobs will become responsible for paying the interest on their federal loans while they are in school and immediately after they graduate. That means they’ll have to pay an extra $18 billion out of pocket over the next decade.
Meanwhile, the government will no longer cover the interest on undergraduate loans during the six months after students finish school. That’s expected to cost them more than $2 billion.
These changes have received little attention as lawmakers instead focus on preventing a spike in interest rates on federal student loans. They are the fallout of earlier political battles and compromises over broader issues such as the federal budget and the national debt ceiling. And they are forcing students such as Clarise McCants to make tough choices about how to pursue academic goals without jeopardizing financial security.
“I don’t want to hastily make a decision that could waste thousands of dollars I don’t have,” said McCants, who said she will have to put off graduate school after finishing her undergraduate degree at Howard University in the spring. “That could kind of prove disastrous for my finances.”
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/chi-no-more-grace-period-on-student-loans-20120628,0,4384922.story
That is not happening, senate to vote on that today, House to follow. Nut, Club fit growth wants no new spending, so we shall hope it goes through!
THIS, THIS, THIS
Here is an anecdotal BJ diary addressing the same issue from the insurers’ pov. The thing is ovah. The screamers can GFT.
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2012/06/29/heartland-radio/#comment-3395923
Four Reasons Why The Court’s Decision To Uphold Obamacare Is Good News For The Economy
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/06/28/505510/four-reasons-why-the-courts-decision-to-uphold-obamacare-is-good-news-for-the-economy/
great!
I would love to hear the reaction of Malia and Sasha to the Leno video.
As Michelle Obama has often told us the president goes big and long. I think the major “selling” of Obama care that all of us have wanted has been waiting for this SCOTUS action. The president was biding his time waiting to see whether the bill would survive in tact. Now the path is clear for a major push and I think we’re going to see a big marketing campaign with lots of examples of the people helped and lots of “just the facts ma’am” ads. Remember when the president waited until after the debt ceiling crisis was passed and the deal cut and then starting lighting into congress and calling them on their idiocy? He was holding his cards until the debt ceiling issue was safely in harbor. I think we’re going to see the same thing on health care in the days and weeks ahead. The SCOTUS decision freed the president to act and when he does he’s unstoppable.
I totally agree. Not only will you see the massive marketing campaign (which we have already been seeing some of it) I would not be surprised if the President’s timetable on implementation of certain aspects of the law isn’t moved up considerably. Several things went into effect early. Sebellius is amazing and I think things are further along than we think.
Ding ding ding. Exactly. All in due time. Hello Jackie, and Jackie. 😀 This is exactly why he hedged when asked several times about his messaging. I remember this vividly. Come on, PBO deficient in messaging? Not !! Jackiegrumbacher, I thank you for the info you posted earlier regarding Pennsylvania voting requirements. Will add it to my info pack.
TODville, how about we take any opportunity today to thank someone in the Obama Admin by name, not necessarily a front line person. Look up their position or name or twitter handle on the google. It won’t take long if we have someone in mind. We send messages when they mess up, and yes they didn’t make this SC decision, but it’s the best opportunity we’ve had recently to send positive messages. Everyone, well mostly everyone, enjoys a pat on the shoulder from time to time. MSM puts spin on their made up news all the time. Why shouldn’t we put a positive spin on our very real good news? What do you say?
Yes!
Thanks for remembering “the others,” meta!
I saw and retweeted that, Meta. Thanks
That video is hilarious
Hi TOD family. Second day of dirty dancing! With the SC’s decision upholding Obamacare and my new ‘puter (can post again)…well “I’m Having the Time of My Life”. Hope all who are able has sent the Obama Campaign a little dough-ray-me.
Happy 11 million plus Chips- wow what a day yesterday indeed. My family lost two Aunts in the past week.. and thus a funeral yesterday & another coming up on Monday- so I’ve missed so much of the celebrations here. But I’m truly thrilled & grateful that the Supreme court did the right thing, and so proud of President Obama. And I’m proud of the many Dems yesterday who walked out on that sham of a contempt vote. Happy friday to all!
oh & I did donate to 4 of you yesterday.. so I’m still paying attention 🙂
So sorry for your loss sherijr {{{{hugs and prayers}}}}.
thank you jojo.. they were both elderly and failing a bit, but they went suddenly and it has been tough on their kids & grandkids… and everyone is at my mom’s house- so she’s wearing herself out a bit- its been hard on her.. anyhow, we’re coping and spending time together w/ cousins I haven’t seen in years- so theres good here too.
Condolences to you and your family, sherijr. Hope things are going well in your big move.
My condolences sherijr.
My condolences, as well, sherijr. So sorry to hear that.
Oh sherijr, so sorry to hear that, what a painful week for you and your family. Take care of yourself, thinking of you.
Thank you meta, Jackie, & Chips for your kind words, I appreciate all of you.
Sorry to hear that sheri. Hope you and your family will cope up with these losses.
thank you amk.. they’re a sturdy bunch and it helps having everyone together… we’ve had lots of food, drink & laughter too.
Great to know that you have a strongly knit family. Best wishes.
Peace and Blessing sherijr.
thank you Dakota ~
Sherijr, I know I am real late on this thread, but my heart felt condolence to you and your family on the lost of your aunties. I hope you are doing well. From your initial post you are a true testimonial to Character.
My sympathy, Sheri, on the loss of the aunts. I only have one of those left myself now. Aunts are special people.
I think I am going to fill out that survey thing again and suggest that now that ACA has been settled by the SC that the campaign do a “Did You Know” series listing in each video for real tv not just the web the benefits of Obamacare and how it affects us personally.
Great idea, donna dem. Personal, positive stories spread in every conceivable venue will be a great counter to the repub’s claim that Obama’s mandate is somehow a huge tax increase.
Good idea donna. I noticed how well the latino DEAM order that the President made last week went over with many voters. I think that was because the videos of all those young people crying and becoming so emotional when PBO made the announcement was very moving to people. I suspect that is the way to go with ACA – images of ordinary people ecstatic, crying with relief, happiness etc that the bill was passed (almost twice). Crowd scenes work very well in helping viewers identify with those represented onscreen. One of the best, most emtional clips that TOD has ever uploaded comes from the National Geographic documentary on Pete Souza (about 2 or three minutes on the passing of ACA). Hope this suggestion isn’t too presumptious.
Donna – I’m going to email a suggestion to the White House – not the campaign – that they immediately use MY TAX DOLLARS by issuing letters explaining the provisions of the ACA and send them to each household in America, so the truth can go directly to the masses. The letter can be signed by President Obama, similar to letters that have gone out in the past when people are getting across-the-board rebate checks and the like (including seniors). That is a legitimate governmental expense.
Fools who do not actually know what’s in ACA but continue to listen to FOX, et al., should get these letters. And the letters could borrow from a phrase going’ round recently, that I loved, used in a postscript:
P.S. I love the sound you make when you STFU. /s/ PBO
Love my gov!
…Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley (D) took a heck of a shot at Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) Friday on a conference call organized by the Obama campaign following the Supreme Court’s health care ruling.
“The only health care mandate they can embrace are transvaginal probes for women,” he said of Republicans. McDonnell signed a mandatory ultrasound bill in March that required women to have an ultrasound before getting an abortion. The bill was later revised, allowing women to opt for an abdominal ultrasound.
Gov. O’Malley is the frickin’ bomb. Can we clone him?!
Isn’t that the BEST kind of tax?
Mitt Romney’s campaign has raised $4.2 million in online donations since the Supreme Court health care ruling, press secretary Andrea Saul tweeted early Friday:
Fundraising update for #FullRepeal: 42k+ donations, $4.2 million raised online for @MittRomney since #scotus decision
— Andrea Saul (@andreamsaul) June 29, 2012
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Small donors ?????????????
I have to say, after the media jerked us around for weeks on this decision, I just have to keep pinching myself to realize ACA was upheld. I’m absolutely giddy this morning.
Supreme Court rules to uphold Obamacare, the right goes completely freaking nuts
By Eclectablog
http://eclectablog.com/2012/06/supreme-court-rules-to-uphold-obamacare-the-right-goes-completely-freaking-nuts.html
Ladyhawke, the right doesn’t go nuts, they are already nuts, freaking crazy NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ON FREE RIDER PENALTY, MARCO RUBIO’S PROVIDES INCOHERENT WORD SALAD
With friends like Rubio…
By Steve Benen
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Now it’s falling on Rubio to defend Romney’s health care reform law, which happens to be nearly identical to President Obama’s health care reform law. Specifically, Rubio was tasked with explaining why Obama’s tax penalty for failing to have insurance is outrageous, but Romney’s identical tax policy for failing to have insurance is perfectly acceptable.
The defense isn’t coming together especially well (thanks to Dan Sachar for the tip).
The immediate response to the Democrats’ tax rebuttal from Republicans was less than impressive.
Romney “supported it on the state level. Which means if you didn’t like it in Massachusetts, you could move to another state,” Rubio said on Bloomberg Television. “What are people supposed to do? Leave the United States now because of Barack Obama’s brilliant idea to stick the IRS on millions of people? More importantly, the state of Massachusetts doesn’t have the IRS.”
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http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/29/12482438-with-friends-like-rubio
yeah, ‘if you don’t like our plan, then move out’ is a great way to sell your candidate. That’s the ticket.
Still smiling, now to protect our leaders and take out those who hate our Country and Us. Vote to protect our hard won rights.
Bobby Jindal and Scott Walker are holding their breath and stamping their feet……
They WILL NOT SET UP HEALTHCARE EXCHANGES……..Wah…Wah…..
Fine, then feds will step in and set up those exchanges. Who are the peeps gonna trust more fed’s exchanges or these incompetent govnors’ exchanges ?
Remarks from the FLOTUS in Memphis (6/28/12)
http://govne.ws/item/Remarks-by-the-First-Lady-at-a-Campaign-Event-29?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#
That made me feel so good!!! lol
New post everyone:
http://theobamadiary.com/2012/06/29/a-supreme-toon/