Marching on


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149 Responses to “Marching on”

  1. 1 Betsy
    June 23, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    Am I first?

  2. 12 magapie
    June 23, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    GO BETSY!!!!

  3. 13 Don
    June 23, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    Congrats Betsy!

    • 14 Betsy
      June 23, 2012 at 7:40 pm

      Thank you magapie and Don. It rarely happens, but it’s fun when it does 🙂

      • 15 Don
        June 23, 2012 at 7:50 pm

        I know how you feel Betsy.

        • 16 magapie
          June 23, 2012 at 8:26 pm

          Yeah all these JERKS with their screamin’ fast computers. It’s enough to make me upgrade from windows 3x and my dial-up…. ONE OF THESE DAYS!!!

          • 17 vcprezofan2
            June 23, 2012 at 8:41 pm

            Yep, Magapie. It’s enough to have me seriously considering an ipad/ipod, though Lord only knows what I would do with either, techno challenged as I am! It will probably go the way of my very first video camera that was only used once before it became obsolete….or the way of my power treadmill that was my 2011 Christmas gift to myself, and is still only half set-up.

            • 18 magapie
              June 23, 2012 at 9:14 pm

              Don’t give up on the treadmill. They’re great for hanging clothes and stacking up crap…..

              • 19 vcprezofan2
                June 23, 2012 at 9:27 pm

                😀 😀 😀 Believe me, I don’t need to be encouraged in the stacking up stuff department! I’ve been telling myself I’ll rent a bin and de-clutter …after I come back from my trip down south. Of course I won’t mention that I thought of doing so last year …… and the year before.

                • 20 magapie
                  June 23, 2012 at 10:09 pm

                  We’re members of the same club ….Well TOD and utter support and fandom of PBO of course!….but I’ve been-gonna clean out my garage for….ooooh 13+ years! But the little woman and and the mother-in-law: GARAGE SALE, going to have a HUGE GARAGE SALE!! It takes planning TIME and MOTIVATION and it never happens. So OLD crap keeps stackling UP to the ceiling in the garage and NEW crap keeps coming in to the home I really would like to just DONATE as much of the crap as possible and haul the rest to the dump, but,,,, SUCH terrible problems I have!! NOT.

                  • 21 vcprezofan2
                    June 23, 2012 at 10:27 pm

                    Same club indeed! Exactly as you describe. Stuff comes in, but nothing ever goes out. In addition, a lot of mine is books, paper, and old mail AND I can’t throw them out without removing my personal info which is a pain. I attempted a minor basement clean last summer and actually found two cheques uncashed among my papers. Since they had been dated years ago, and were very small amounts

  4. 22 Don
    June 23, 2012 at 7:48 pm

    What is truly scary is that all these billionaires that are showing up at Romney’s retreat in Utah have pledged hundreds of millions of dollars for Romney’s campaign, but yet won’t raise one fucking penny to feed the homeless. No, they don’t have to nor is it their responsibility but goddamnit, people are hurting out there. Of all the shitty things these fuckers do, this hurts me the most.

    • 23 susanne
      June 23, 2012 at 7:54 pm

      i disagree, don. i believe it is indeed their responsibility. i don’t usually quote the bible, but in this case, it’s clear the right wingers haven’t been listening in church.

      ‘to whomever much is given, of him much will be required; and to whom much was entrusted, more will be asked.’

      • 24 anniebella
        June 23, 2012 at 9:35 pm

        susanne, I agree with you. Remember the story in the Bible were the rich man didn’t even want to give the beggar the crumbs which from his table. Rich and the poor man died, the rich ended up in Hell and the poor man ended up in Heaven. The rich man ask for the poor man to come give him water to cool his thirst, but it was told the rich man remember when you had everything one could want, but you wouldn’t even give the beggar the crumbs which fell from your table. This is my words in telling the story, but anyone who reads the Bible knows what I’m talking about. You are so right susanne, in that quote you gave. And when I think of the suffering people are going through all over this world, to think that someone is talking about donating 400 million to defeat President Obama. I want to remind them if they have the money to lose well so be it. There is a God that sits high and he looks low, I’ll take God on my side any day.

        • 25 majiir
          June 23, 2012 at 10:23 pm

          You’re right, anniebella. The brother in hell asked Moses to go speak to his brothers, and iirc, Moses essentially told him, “You didn’t listen. What makes you think they’ll listen?” The Koch Bros. and the other wealthy individuals meeting in Utah today seem to never think about the fact that they’ll die one day, and they’ll have to answer to God for what they’ve done. I remember reading where the Bible says they’ll say, “Lord, Lord, I did this or that, and he’ll tell them to depart from him because he doesn’t know them. They are living the high life now with all that this world has to offer, but all of their money won’t keep them alive when it’s their time to go. I could understand them grasping for more and more money and doing thing to keep others down if they were immortal, but they’re not. And, if you look closely at the majority of them, they’re no spring chickens. For example, that Sheldon Adelson looks as if he has one foot in the grave and another on a banana peel at the edge of it, but he is as ugly as he wants to be to anyone who doesn’t agree with what he believes.

    • 26 mtmarilyn
      June 23, 2012 at 8:06 pm

      I so appreciated you comment I changed it so I could tweet it. “Billionaires at Romney’s retreat have pledged millions for Romney, but won’t raise 1 penny 4 poor. People are hurting this hurts the most.”

      Thank you for your words.

      • 27 anniebella
        June 23, 2012 at 10:18 pm

        If these billionaires had come together they could have finance a jobs bill which would have put Americans back to work. The Republicans didn’t want to ask them to pay just alittle bit more, now the billionaires and millionaries are paying the Republicans back.

    • 28 japa21
      June 23, 2012 at 8:09 pm

      Actually, I doubt if we know what charitable contributions they make. It would be fairer to say that they are unwiling to help the country take care of all its citizens through a slight (and I do mean slight) increase in taxes.

  5. 30 susanne
    June 23, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    so instead of wringing their hands that the usa is becoming too much like the eu, the worriers can consider that the eu is emulating the usa in our migration attitudes. here, the house of lords committee on migration recommends ‘a global approach to the issue’.


  6. 31 desertflower
    June 23, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    Is this what Romney means by a “quiet room?”

  7. June 23, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    O/T: I am watching ESPNU–wonderful story about Title IX. If you can’t watch now, bet it will be shown again, maybe more than once.

  8. 33 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
    June 23, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    A little something for Reince …. while he plays with Rove & #BullyMitt

    Others of his ilk have also been duly informed we are fully aware … and are spreading the word …


  9. 34 vcprezofan2
    June 23, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    OT: As some of you may be aware, my ‘new year’ (mid-June) resolution re the O campaign is to try to direct most of my tweets towards a positive Obama/Dem message. I’m often surprised at HOW OFTEN Dem supporters on Twitter lead with negative words when aiming to compliment the Pres. I honestly think that they sometimes forget that not everyone gets subtleties, or that not everyone hangs around on twitter long enough to have things clarified. Here’s a meme beginning to trend that I think is a perfect example of one that should be avoided

    • 35 vcprezofan2
      June 23, 2012 at 8:27 pm

      Does anyone here see what I’m saying, or am I just too much of a party pooper? I’m sitting down so you can be (gently) honest.

      • 36 utaustinliberal
        June 23, 2012 at 8:38 pm

        I have no problem with the trending topic #ThingsDemocratsPromiseForVotes. It’s twitter. You could tweet things like: job creation, growing the economy, comprehensive healthcare, equal pay for all, women’s freedom over their bodies especially their vaginas, upholding Roe v. Wade, repealing DOMA, making the rich pay their fair share in taxes, making the GOP go batshit crazy, repealing oil subsidies, making Boehner cry orange tears…..etc.

        • 37 vcprezofan2
          June 23, 2012 at 8:58 pm

          As you show, UTAL,there are any number of wonderful things that can be tweeted. I realize that. However, I would argue it is better to word this in a positive way and you would still get these types of answers. When I process the wording of the hash tag my first thought is Dems PROMISING stuff TO GET VOTES implies they won’t deliver; it feeds into the commonly held belief that politicians are untrustworthy. In short to me it smacks of bribery. Dems don’t need to bribe voters; they have a plan. They need the votes to help them get in to govern; they are not just promising. I tried to put a twist on it, but decided that my attempt sounded just as foolish – at least to me it did

      • 39 carolyn
        June 23, 2012 at 8:42 pm

        I understand what you’re saying, and it is definitely a valid point. HOW we say things, ism any times as important as WHAT we say.

        Did you get my ideas about DFW and Austin on a previous thread? Basically, I said, stay away from DFW and Dallas if there is another way!
        Waco is an easy town to drive around. The whole town basically revolves around Baylor. If Austin is a little closer to Waco, by all means choose Austin.

        • 40 vcprezofan2
          June 23, 2012 at 9:07 pm

          I saw it and answered you, Carolyn, thanks. I really do appreciate the feedback. I’ve copied the information (and suggestions) and ‘put it in a safe place’. 😆 I was hovering between the two airports while dreading the thought of finding my way around a really, really, big airport which I was told Dallas is. Both your and UTAL’s responses make it more than likely I’ll choose Austin, especially if the difference in prices are not hugely different. I remembered at a first glance they had seemed so, so I had more or less discounted Austin. Thanks again for taking the time to respond to my cry for help. 😉

      • 41 susanne
        June 23, 2012 at 9:01 pm

        i agree, vc. it sounds like swapping votes for influence.

        • 42 vcprezofan2
          June 23, 2012 at 9:23 pm

          It does, I think. Or swapping votes for SOME|THING, kind of like the corporatists or lobbyists. Vote for Dems, we’ll GIVE YOU yada, yada, as opposed to vote for Dems – so that together we can effect meaningful changes for citizens/country .

    • June 24, 2012 at 3:33 am

      Hi vc – love your comments, contributions etc. Every day there will be a # trend setup to do with politics. They are setup in my opinion by the GOP. This is why the tags are always phrased as a negative or false outrage.

      They held a few weeks ago an online conference in vegas under #RO12, probably to build traction to increase their involvement in social media with anti-PBO, anti-dem messaging. They do it in every other media channel, so it’s natural to assume they would do it in the online space. Citizens United will help fund their cause, but the GOP don’t have any substance or logic in their messaging aside from usual talking points.

      You can take part in these trend tags as UT said above by phrasing responses in the positive. Just know that the twitter audience in these political # are mainly from the right who gang up to give the false impression their hate is widespread. Dems and sane people are all over Twitter sharing and communicating a wide range of topics, we’re not pigeon holed to only thinking up 1, 2, 3 or 4 word descriptions for a # topic a Tea Partier wd understand.

      I’ve also noticed when they respond back if you take part in the # you always feel like you have to defend your positive or factual tweet. I don’t mind when they do this, as I’m almost always linking it to an OFA, TOD link or whitehouse.gov page etc. but I also feel they need to defend their point of view, so its good to keep asking them why they say that, where’s their proof and the biggie? – what their guy Romney would do etc.

    • 45 Pamela
      June 23, 2012 at 9:20 pm

      Oh, I do hope so.

    • 46 jackiegrumbacher
      June 23, 2012 at 9:28 pm

      Df,this can’t happen soon enough! Repugs will try to delay and hide this so it doesn’t get real attention until after the election. It needs to happen now and then get told far and wide.

  10. 47 utaustinliberal
    June 23, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    Kick ass video! Love their enthusiasm.

  11. June 23, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    Chips, As of today, I cannot watch a video on TOD. It says “not responding” and I have to ‘kill pages’ and reload. Anyone–help!?

    • 49 jackiegrumbacher
      June 23, 2012 at 9:30 pm

      Tn, Sometimes I just have to click on You Tube and watch it there. Other times the TOD videos come through. It’s definitely not consistent for me.

  12. June 23, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    So, Monday could be the day the SC rules on Obama’s healthcare plan. I’m not nervous now since I think it’s pretty much expected they’ll rule the mandate is unconstitutional. However, I am so not looking forward to the news cycle we’re about to get next week. You know the media will run this into the ground and use it as a starting point for every question having to do with Obama’s reelection chances.

    Maybe next week is a good time to turn off the TV?

    • 52 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
      June 23, 2012 at 8:41 pm

      Well, Speaker Pelosi, quite recently, predicted a 6-3 vote in support of ACA.


      We’ll see.


      • June 23, 2012 at 9:04 pm

        Hopefully it’s not just wishful thinking…

        The basis of all the pessimism is over the line of questioning and nothing else. That seems pretty flimsy to base an opinion on, but who knows. I guess we’ll find out soon enough…:/

        • 54 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
          June 23, 2012 at 9:20 pm

          Agree. Monday, at the soonest; perhaps not until Thursday. They don’t, typically, announce decisions on Friday.



        • 55 Bill R.
          June 24, 2012 at 3:35 am

          There are many good legal minds and court observers who agree with Pelosi, 6-3 to uphold ACA. Among them one of the most astute court observers and reports and reports, Linda Greenwood of the NYT. I am inclined to agree also for both legal, political, and economic reasons.

      • 57 anniebella
        June 23, 2012 at 9:43 pm

        I have no confidence in John Roberts court, none at all.

      • 58 nathkatun7
        June 24, 2012 at 2:39 am

        Look, what ever the Court decides about ACA we have to be prepared to fight back if necessary. In the1857 Dred Scott case, the U. S. Supreme Court nullified Congressional prohibition against the expansion of slavery. It ruled that Slave owners can take their slaves any where in the United States. The Court felt that it had finally resolved the debate about whether Congress had the right to prohibit the expansion of slavery in the new territories. As it turned out, the Supreme Court ended up unleashing a backlash that increased the popularity of the then Republican party (not to be confused with the current so called Republican party) that nominated Abraham Lincoln for President, in 1860. I don’t know about any body else, but as far as I am concerned I have no confidence in this Supreme Court that ruled, in Citizens United, to unleash unlimited corporate/ billionaire money to try to buy elections. If the court invalidates the ACA, we must be ready to fight back the expose the court’s right wing agenda; just as the anti-expansion of slavery groups did following the Court’s decision in the Dred Scott case.

    • 59 majiir
      June 23, 2012 at 10:35 pm

      For a while, I was all upset about what the SC would do regarding the ACA, but I decided not to worry so much about it. I’ve been praying, and I’m prepared to deal with whichever way they go. I think this is what PBO would do. I will not allow the republicans to cause me to be depressed. We’ll just work hard to re-elect PBO, and put as many progressive/liberal dems in the House and Senate as we can, and fix the darn law. I don’t think It will be good for our party if we go all Gloomy Gus. What Boehner, Romney, Cantor, McConnell, Bachmann, and the other GOPers want is to break our enthusiasm. They’re not going to get that from me. They’ve mocked hope and change for nearly four years now, and I’m here to let them see that no matter what the SC decides, I still have plenty of it. I will not tweet any depressed or angry tweets about the SC decision if it’s against the ACA, but I will tweet suggestions that we redouble our efforts, work hard, elect more dems in November, and fix the law. I also look back at all we’re gone through since January 20, 2009, and I know that if we’ve weathered those storms, we can weather this one and keep moving forward. If your opponent can make you throw in the towel after landing one blow, you deserve to lose the boxing match. Muhammad Ali knows this all too well, so I’m taking a page out of his playbook.

      • 60 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
        June 24, 2012 at 1:06 am

        “If your opponent can make you throw in the towel after landing one blow, you deserve to lose the boxing match. Muhammad Ali knows this all too well, so I’m taking a page out of his playbook.”

        Indeed, majir!

        And, we have a President who clearly knows Ali’s playbook as well as any!!


        • 61 nathkatun7
          June 24, 2012 at 2:47 am

          Bobfr, I agree with both you and majiir. If he right wing dominated Supreme Court invalidates the ACR we must be prepared to fight back. After “Bush v. Gore ” and “Citizens United” we now know that Supreme Court is a major player in advancing right wing agenda. Some Democrats may cave, but all of us who support the President must stand firm!

      • 62 theo67
        June 24, 2012 at 3:09 am

        Good attitude, Majiir. I heard that there’s a large free clinic going on this weekend here in Southern California, with all sorts of medical services for thousands of people without health insurance. There are just too many people who need help for us to let whatever the Supreme Court decides stop us in our tracks. That’s what they want to do. We can’t let them do it. They’re just horrible – fueled by hate. Too many people need help.

  13. 63 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
    June 23, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    Thought these folk should know we are paying attention …


  14. 64 amk for obama
    June 23, 2012 at 8:44 pm

  15. 67 desertflower
    June 23, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    If anyone has suggestions as to good places to hold voter registration, can you let me know. appreciate it….

    • 68 jackiegrumbacher
      June 23, 2012 at 9:35 pm

      Have you tried Farmer’s Markets? Sometimes they’ll let you put up a little card table outside? We have a local movie theater that lets us register voters if we set up on the sidewalk. Any street fair is a good venue. If you have a county fair and the local party has a booth, sign up for a time slot. And, of course, OFA is organizing door-to-door voter registration.

    • June 23, 2012 at 10:04 pm

      Find out where your local swearing-in ceremonies for new citizens are held and what the schedule is. Those are total gold mines. Just wait outside and when the ceremony is finished, I tell you, EVERYBODY wants to register to vote. And it’s fun because they’re so incredibly excited.

  16. 71 amk for obama
    June 23, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    Rules of the lab.

    1) If an experiment works, something has gone wrong.

    2) When you don’t know what you’re doing, do it neatly.

    3) Experiments must be reproduceable, they should fail the same way each time.

    4) First draw your curves, then plot your data.

    5) Experience is directly proportional to equipment ruined.

    6) Always keep a record of your data. It indicates that you have been working

    7) To do a lab really well, have your report done well in advance.

    8) If you can’t get the answer in the usual manner, start at the answer and derive the question.

    9) In case of doubt, make it sound convincing.

    10) Do not believe in miracles–rely on them.

    11) Team work is essential, it allows you to blame someone else.

    12) All unmarked beakers contain fast-acting, extremely toxic poisons.

    13) No experiment is a complete failure. At least it can serve as a negative example.

    14) Any delicate and expensive piece of glassware will break before any use can be made of it.

  17. 73 amk for obama
    June 23, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    A New York Divorce Lawyer died and arrived at the pearly gates. Saint Peter asks him “What have you done to merit entrance into Heaven?”

    The Lawyer thought a moment, then said, “A week ago, I gave a quarter to a homeless person on the street.”

    Saint Peter asked Gabriel to check this out in the record, and after a moment Gabriel affirmed that this was true.

    Saint Peter said, “Well, that’s fine, but it’s not really quite enough to get you into Heaven.”

    The Lawyer said, “Wait Wait! There’s more! Three years ago I also gave a homeless person a quarter.”

    Saint Peter nodded to Gabriel, who after a moment nodded back, affirming this, too, had been verified.

    Saint Peter then whispered to Gabriel, “Well, what do you suggest we do with this fellow?”

    Gabriel gave the Lawyer a sidelong glance, then said to Saint Peter, “Let’s give him back his 50 cents and tell him to go to Hell.”

  18. 74 desertflower
    June 23, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    “nough said! Thanks, PragmaticObots:)

  19. 75 Ladyhawke
    June 23, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    The Sad State Of What Americans See In The Media

    by Leo Soderman


    We are missing true journalists. What we have now is a plethora of “reporters” in the true sense. Instead of looking for fact, and sorting out the truth from the lies and obfuscation, what we have is people “reporting” what is said, with no context. It’s why Mitt Romney can repeatedly change his statements to adapt to whatever direction the wind is blowing. He isn’t challenged on his statements, they are simply allowed to float out and stand without argument. The task of a “journalist” would be to point out these inconsistencies, and determine the veracity of the statements. To ferret out the truth. Instead, press releases issued by campaign flacks are taken as statements, and there is no vetting of the statements.

    Even more disturbing, the nature of 24/7 cable news and non-stop social media has allowed those statements to develop the patina of truth by sheer repetition. Tweeted and re-tweeted, spread through blogs, and amplified in the comments section of those blogs, falsehoods suddenly are being treated as gospel. And the media, lazy as they have become, have started repeating the lies without even checking them, feeding the frenzy and giving the lies an impression of validity.



  20. 77 Ladyhawke
    June 23, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    Wingnut Hysteria Over President Obama’s Deportation Executive Order

    By Angry Black Lady


    The latest brain diarrhea from Michael “Black Sheep” Reagan beautifully illustrates what can politely be described as a collective GOP meltdown:

    First of all, Democrats held a 60-vote majority for only five months. They did not control both houses of Congress for two years.

    Second of all, House Democrats passed the DREAM Act and President Obama would have signed it into law in 2010, but — surprise surprise! — Senate Republicans filibustered it, just as they have filibuster almost every policy supported by President Obama even if that policy was previously supported by the GOP. Why? Because the GOP’s top priority — as stated by Mitch McConnell — is to make Obama a one-term president:



  21. 78 Pamela
    June 23, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    CHIPSTICKS! L.O.V.E love love love the new look, very nice to navigate, I have not become lost or flustered yet, and I LOVE that you are closing in on 11,000,000,000 hits! Yes, you ROCK!

  22. 79 utaustinliberal
    June 23, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    More news from Romney’s “Republican Palooza.” I guess this is how Romney plans on milking money from his cash cows.

    • 80 utaustinliberal
      June 23, 2012 at 9:18 pm

      p.s. Thought they weren’t supposed to be boozing up in Utah. Joseph Smith and Brigham Young are gonna blow a gasket…..

  23. 82 amk for obama
    June 23, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    The LAPD, The FBI and the CIA are all trying to prove that they are the best at apprehending criminals. The President decides to give them a test. He releases a rabbit into a forest and each of them has to catch it.

    The CIA goes in. They place animal informants throughout the forest. They question all plant and mineral witnesses. After three months of extensive investigations, they conclude that rabbits do not exist.

    The FBI goes in. After two weeks with no leads they burn the forest, killing everything in it, including the rabbit, and they make no apologies. The rabbit had it coming.

    The LAPD goes in. They come out two hours later with a badly beaten bear. The bear is yelling: “Okay! Okay! I’m a rabbit! I’m a rabbit!”

  24. 86 Ladyhawke
    June 23, 2012 at 9:30 pm



    In his speeches, Romney never gives any specifics as to what he would do for average Americas. He just says he would close tax loop holes, cut taxes and spending and increase the Defense budget. But he never gives any specifics as to what tax loop holes he would close, what budgets or spending he would cut and as to how much he would increase the Defense budget. And he never states how he would pay for the spending and tax cuts and the Defense budget increases.

    Most of his bogus rhetoric is for stating that Obama is out of his league and over his head. But apparently, most of the people that attend his events are not really Romney supporters, but are instead against Obama and the Democrats. Therefore, his crowds are not very large when compared to Obama’s campaign speeches.

    And Romney continues to tell lies about the president. He recently said that the president hadn’t negotiated any trade agreements, when Obama has negotiated and signed three major trade deals.



  25. 87 amk for obama
    June 23, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    Who the heck is this guy with Letterman ? He is very good, we should elect him as a president or something.

  26. 95 amk for obama
    June 23, 2012 at 9:36 pm

  27. 98 vcprezofan2
    June 23, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    A questionable source, but it’s worth knowing the name of the senator and seeing another example of how Repubs exploit the system,

  28. 99 Eveingeorgia
    June 23, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    That parade is great. The Obama supporters are so energized, and they are having so much fun!

    Japa your essay was wonderful. Give Deniac a try; you won’t know if you don’t ask. The fact is: you can write, whether he says yes or no.

  29. June 23, 2012 at 9:49 pm

    Here is my daughter’s link for 46 Momma’s Shave for the Brave. http://46mommas.com/index.php/mommas-and-kids/class-of-2012-shaving/item/laura-gorney.html?category_id=37. If it is okay with Chips, I will share it at least once a week so I don’t miss people. It is approaching quickly. Thanks for anything, no matter how small, you can pitch in.

    • 103 Cha
      June 24, 2012 at 1:09 am

      Maher Nailed It!

      “Bill Maher then called the Republicans what they really are, “There’s no ideology here. It’s just about being a dick. Like last week when House Republicans voted to keep using Styrofoam in the cafeteria. Now most people avoid Styrofoam when they can, because not only is it non-biodegradable, it also poisons the food you put in it, or as Republicans call it, a win-win. But honestly, Democrats were trying to set a good environmental example by trading Styrofoam for a risky and untested technology called cardboard. I know. Needs more study, but Republicans blocked it by a vote of 178 to f**k you. F**k you. You want cups that don’t leech chemicals into your coffee? Na-na-na, poopy face. You can’t tell me what to do. Take that, knowing things.”

      Thanks to Jason Easley, too, and you, amk!

      F**king gop styrofoam leaches.

    • 104 nathkatun7
      June 24, 2012 at 3:17 am

      Sometimes I can’t stand Bill Maher, but most of the times he is really hilarious!

  30. 105 vcprezofan2
    June 23, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    G’NIght, all!

  31. 106 globalcitizenlinda
    June 23, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    Hey creative folks in TODville,

    we need to prepare for the SCOTUS announcement about the health care law (ACA) no matter what the rulling is.

    What are you planning to do about the rulling either way – now is the time to prepare?

    as a person with a serious pre-existing condition and one planning to re-locate in a few weeks to start on an independent path, I am very worried about SCOTUS undermining the ACA.

    my thought is to try and use the result to mobilize more people to register who may be uninsured or under-insured or who may have a pre-existing condition.

    what are your plans about how to react to SCOTUS’s ruling on ACA?

    • 107 anniebella
      June 23, 2012 at 11:09 pm

      globalcitizenlinda,my plan to to keep my eyes on the big prize, which is to get President Obama re-elected. If the ruling goes our way, the big prize to still to get our President re-elected. If it goes against us, the big prize is still to get our President re-elected. I don’t plan on listening to the anti-Obama media either way. Because I don’t want to hear all the doom and gloom B.S.. I want us to remain up beat and strong either way, don’t fall in to that doom and gloom B.S. I will keep my eye on the President , I’m sure he and his people have discuss this, they have talk about what their plans would be if it goes against them or for them. So I am going to keep the faith, hope and pray, either way.

      • 108 jackiegrumbacher
        June 24, 2012 at 7:30 am

        Anniebella, these are wise words to live by. We can’t let anyone take our focus off the main prize–re-electing the president. If there are problems with the health care ruling that is an even greater incentive to elect the president and give him a Democratic president. We must never give up, no matter what the corporate shills on tv bleat about. They are trying to discourage us and we will not let it happen.

    • 110 jackiegrumbacher
      June 24, 2012 at 7:32 am

      That’s an excellent plan, global. Just registering a LOT more Democratic voters will help, no matter what the ruling.

  32. 111 Pamela
    June 23, 2012 at 11:06 pm

    A genuine change must first come from within the individual, only then can he or she attempt to make a significant contribution to humanity. ~
    HHDL 22 June 2012. @DalaiLama

    • 112 Pamela
      June 23, 2012 at 11:07 pm

      My apologies for leaving out the quotation marks, but it is a direct quote from @DalaiLama on Twitter.

  33. June 23, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    Sigh. A voter/small business owner told me today on canvass that he’s still mad at the President for all the bailouts. Even saving the auto industry. If a business can’t survive w/o help, it should go under…survival of the fittest, said he.

    • 114 carolyn
      June 23, 2012 at 11:30 pm

      He’ll feel that way until it touches him personally…….if his business is the least bit related to autos, he’s being truly stupid. And if not, he’s thoughtless. I bet this is one who does not accept the theory of evolution in natural matters…….but wants it to be so in social matters. Unless it affects him. He’s the kind who will yell the loudest if it hits him. Those people are so tedious and almost impossible to reason with. Bless your heart…..he’s incredibly ignorant.

    • June 23, 2012 at 11:35 pm

      “he’s still mad at the President for all the bailouts”

      Anyone who, in 2012 is STILL using bailouts as a reason they’re mad at the president is not being honest. This sounds like Tea Party/Libertarian talking point.

      • 116 0388jojothecat
        June 24, 2012 at 12:06 am

        It’s really hard sometimes to think fast on our feet when people through these ridiculous accusations against the President. I had to think a bit about what your caller said. I finally thought of something if anyone tells that again:

        You know, it was Bush who bailout the banksters. Do you believe that if it were McCain or Romney that the GOP would not bail out their friends? As far as the auto industry, if he had not done that, America would not have an “American auto industy”. the failure of GM would have made millions of people bankrupt, no taxes paid to the federal government, all the companies that support GM would have also gone bankrupt, all the local stores, moms and pops….do you have a business? Your business would have failed too, is that what you would have preferred. Do you have a 401K? or mutual funds? You would have lost more. Instead look at where we are…they have paid most of it back, Ford didn’t need a bailout but they would have failed too, GM is #1, manfuacturing is through the roof, peoples pensions were saved, mom and pop local businesses were saved, peoples 401K and mutual funds were saved. I am glad he bailed out the auto industry because they are doing well and Michigan and Ohio have under 8% unemployment instead of 25%.

        • 117 theo67
          June 24, 2012 at 3:42 am

          Could also remind him that the oil companies get bailed out each year to the tune of several billion dollars – despite being the most profitable industry in the world. In addition, the defense contractors get bailouts to the tune of billions of dollars in cost overruns for equipment that doesn’t even work (e.g. planes that can’t fly in the rain). And lastly, President Bush gave those banks bailouts with no promise that they’d return the money. President Obama got that money back – with interest.

    • June 24, 2012 at 12:21 am

      Such foolish thinking. If you as a person or business need help, you should seek it. What kind of business man just lets his business fail w/o seeking help?

    • 119 nathkatun7
      June 24, 2012 at 3:23 am

      May be be you can gently entice him to read the preamble of the U.S. Constitution. He/She needs to know that the founders plainly stated that the government they created was al about “WE” and not “I.”

  34. 121 globalcitizenlinda
    June 23, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    when historians look back to June/23/2012, they will report that this is a day when a group of billionaires, multi-millionaires and trust fund kids who share a common hatred of a brilliant and kind President Obama, were so blinded by their arrogance and hate that they sent hundreds of millions of their fortune to waste.

    even as they wasted their money to try and defeat President Obama, they were in fact committing these funds to stimulating the economy and thereby indirectly boosting national expenditure

    • 122 0388jojothecat
      June 23, 2012 at 11:56 pm

      It will also go down in history that while millions of americans go without food, shelter, cities, record unemployed, attacks on public workers, cities and states have deficits that cripple them while these greedy men and women spent their wad and did not defeat the best president in history.

  35. 123 globalcitizenlinda
    June 23, 2012 at 11:44 pm

    is anyone following tweets with #romneyretreat? I am learning a few things about who is attending and making a note to self to never patronize their businesses

  36. 126 desertflower
    June 24, 2012 at 12:07 am

    Anybody home????

  37. June 24, 2012 at 12:22 am

    WASHINGTON–First Lady Michelle Obama will attend a Tuesday ceremony with Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn when he signs a bill making it easier for military spouses and veterans–who move often– to transfer their professional licenses to Illinois. Mrs. Obama added the event to her schedule on a day when she was planning to be in Chicago for two fund-raisers, one with “Glee” star and Dolton native Jane Lynch.
    Helping military families is one of Mrs. Obama’s signature issues and has been a cause Quinn has been involved with since he was lieutenant governor. Mrs. Obama will join Quinn at the Illinois National Guard Armory where he will sign the “Military Family Licensing Act.”
    From the White House: “In February, the First Lady and Dr. Jill Biden asked the country’s governors and spouses to improve job portability for military spouses in their states. At the time the First Lady and Dr. Biden addressed the Governors, only 11 states had legislation. Now less than four months later, Illinois will be become the 23rd state to adopt pro-military spouse license portability legislation. An additional 7 states have pending legislation.


  38. 129 desertflower
    June 24, 2012 at 12:54 am


    Does this make ANY sense at all???

    Some of the wildfires scorching the West this year were sparked by unusual culprits: Gun owners. Or, more specifically, gun shooters.
    As with the Dump fire in Utah, which flared hard enough on Friday to force the evacuation of 1,500 homes and 9,000 people, nearly two dozen conflagrations, officials say, have started accidentally by careless target shooters whose bullet sparks touch off dried-up pinon and wild grasses.
    “Now is not a good time to take your gun outside and start shooting in cheat grass that’s tinder dry,” Utah Gov. Gary Herbert said Friday.
    Story: Utah, Colo. fires keep thousands from homes
    More US news from the Christian Science Monitor
    While authorities can ban certain fire-related activities when fire risks are high, that’s not true with guns, the carrying and use of which are staunchly protected by state and federal law, including several recent Supreme Court decisions.

    I’m sorry…this is not for PROTECTION! There has to be some sort of responsibility for this….why not go to a shooting range?? Burn the damn state down…but let’s protect the gun owners at the expense of the state…where’s the common sense here? Who pays for this???

    • 130 theo67
      June 24, 2012 at 3:48 am

      You can only imagine the impending lawlessness if Republicans win the White House or Congress (heaven forbid).

  39. 133 desertflower
    June 24, 2012 at 2:01 am


    Mopping up that spilled organic, fair trade coffee with a Brawny kitchen roll? Off to yoga in your Lycra shorts? Serving your kids kale chips on a Dixie paper plate? Did you know you were lining the pockets of the Charles and David Koch, billionaire bankrollers of the extreme right? Well, soon there’ll be an app for that.

    A former tech head turned politician is developing an app that will allow shoppers to avoid products made by the Kochs or other billionaires currently spending fortunes backing rightwing candidates and policies.

    Darcy Burner, a Democrat politician running for Congress in Washington state, said she came up with the idea when she started looking at exactly what the Kochs own.

    The brothers’ interests include Georgia Pacific, a packaging and paper products firm whose brands include Brawny and Sparkle paper towels, Angel Soft and Soft n’ Gentle bath tissue and the Dixie range of paper cups and plates.

    Koch Industries also owns Invista, the world’s largest fibre and textiles company and owner of Lycra, Cordura and the Stainmaster carpet brand.

    “The Kochs have a record of spending enormous amounts of money to move very reactionary, rightwing policies. Most Americans disagree with those policies but they may be buying products that are bankrolling them,” she said.

    Burner said the app would allow “folks to make informed buying decisions.”

  40. 134 amk for obama
    June 24, 2012 at 2:18 am


  41. June 24, 2012 at 4:24 am

    Might be a bit off topic, but is there already a video of the latest “dinner with Barack” thing? I´ve seen photos of that posted on here, but I am not sure whether or not there has been a video alread that I might have missed.

  42. 139 susanne
    June 24, 2012 at 6:43 am

    are we surprised? robme was a pal and co-investor with michael milken (mr junk bond). a quote from robme: ‘it was fun while it lasted’.


    • 140 amk for obama
      June 24, 2012 at 7:03 am


      It showed how he pivoted from being a relatively cautious investor to risking his reputation for a big payoff. It is one that Romney has rarely, if ever, mentioned in his two bids for the presidency, perhaps because the Houston-based department store chain that Bain assembled later went into bankruptcy.

      But what distinguishes this deal from the nearly 100 others that Romney did over a 15-year period was his close work with Milken’s firm, Drexel Burnham Lambert Inc. At the time of the deal, it was widely known that Milken and his company were under federal investigation, yet Romney decided to go ahead with the deal because Drexel had a unique ability to sell high-risk, high-yield debt instruments, known as “junk bonds.”

      Tweeted susanne.

    • 141 amk for obama
      June 24, 2012 at 7:06 am

      “Mitt, I think, spent his life balanced between fear and greed,” Wolpow said. “He knew that he had to make a lot of money to launch his political career. It’s very hard to make a lot of money without taking some kind of reputational risk along the way. It’s just hard to do. It doesn’t mean you have to do anything illegal or immoral, but you often have to take reputational risk to make money.”

      So it was that Romney decided to rely on a man and a company in the thick of one of the most intensive investigations ever undertaken by the Securities and Exchange Commission.

      What a scummy punk.

      • 142 susanne
        June 24, 2012 at 3:46 pm

        good morning amk!
        you picked out my favorite line, that mitt, ‘spent his life balanced between fear and greed’. and that’s from one of his friends!

    • 143 Bill
      June 24, 2012 at 7:21 am

      Thanks for the article. Unfortunately Willard’s connection with Milken will mean nothing to the people who back Willard. Milken oversaw one of the darkest periods in the financial history of our country. Willard made his fortune by being at the right place at the right time. He went along for the ride that Milken created. Milken needed people like Willard and Bain’s LBO deals to create the bonds he underwrote. That is the way the big bucks were made in the 80’s.

  43. June 24, 2012 at 7:25 am

    What Adelson wants for his multiple million dollar investment in the Willard campaign


  44. 145 globalcitizenlinda
    June 24, 2012 at 7:38 am

    which Democract or PBO-surrogate is appearing on which sunday political show today? it seems crap said these shows has an influence on the beltway noise for a few more days of that week

    • June 24, 2012 at 7:50 am

      I think more and people are tuning out the nonsense that is spewed on these Republican Propaganda shows disguised as “political analysis.” Their ratings are going down and their talking points seem to have less of an impact on people’s opinions/attitudes.

    • June 24, 2012 at 8:06 am

      But, Issa, Rubio and John McCain, Check!

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