05
Jun
12

Night everyone

Two choices:

(1) Give up, let these creatures….

…. keep their stranglehold on democracy, and prepare for President Romney

or

(2) Have a good night’s sleep, wake up, and dig a whole lot ****ing deeper.

They might have the money, but they’ll never have our spirit or grassroots support – it beat them in 2008, and it will beat them again in 2012.

Endless love and admiration to the amazing people of Wisconsin who put their heart and soul in to this.

****

If you can, please donate to Obama/Biden 2012 (link)

****

9:20: PBO departs the White House

11:45: VP Biden travels to Winston-Salem, North Carolina and delivers remarks on the Administration’s efforts to create jobs

12:00: First Lady Michelle Obama delivers remarks at campaign event in New York City

2:45: PBO arrives in San Francisco

3:15: Michelle Obama meets with Obama campaign volunteers from the Philadelphia area

3:20: PBO attends a campaign event

5:15: PBO delivers remarks at a campaign event at the Julia Morgan Ballroom

6:15: PBO departs San Francisco

7:20: Arrives in  Los Angeles

10:15: Delivers remarks at a campaign event

11:55: Delivers remarks at a campaign event

****

See ya tomorrow.


179 Responses to “Night everyone”


  1. 1 Smoothscotch
    June 5, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    Good evening. 1st

  2. 4 hopefruit2
    June 5, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    FIRST!

  3. June 5, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    rrrats…thought fersure i had a chance 🙂

  4. 7 Smoothscotch
    June 5, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    3wattie yippee, finally

  5. 11 Smoothscotch
    June 5, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    Lol, what do I Grt.

  6. 12 vitaminlover
    June 5, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    Be of good cheer, everyone. OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!!!! 4 MORE YEARS!!!!

  7. 13 LunarSea
    June 5, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    I just read on twitter that Barrett conceded. Well there is now no doubt. People vote against their own interests. Sad commentary on US voters. SMDH

    Night all.

    • 14 Smoothscotch
      June 5, 2012 at 11:28 pm

      The DEM areas came thru. Last info 54% to 45%. Walker got rural & non union households apparently.

      • 15 sabreen60
        June 5, 2012 at 11:56 pm

        Walker got 36% of union voters. I read that usually about 43-46% union folks vote for GOP. Sorta like chickens voting for KFC.

    • 16 vcprezofan2
      June 5, 2012 at 11:29 pm

      Does him conceding mean that they won’t continue to count the votes? And if the count is wrong can a concession be revoked? I really want to understand.

      • 17 LunarSea
        June 5, 2012 at 11:37 pm

        My understanding is a concession says no more counting necessary and it stops. Dems are stupid. I still say something stinks but they never stand up to the lying cheating GOP assholes. Should do what Al Franken did but instead does what Gore did.

        It doesn’t add up after all the boots on the ground reports and same day voting. My biggest worry is that the GOP are warming up to steal 2012. First they practice on their own primaries, now this, what next.

        Well I’m just going to work harder. They are NOT stealing the GE

        • 18 jacquelineoboomer
          June 5, 2012 at 11:41 pm

          Maybe I’ve missed something, but I’ve never heard that any counting stops after a concession. It does?

        • 19 Walking_on_ Sunshine
          June 5, 2012 at 11:42 pm

          Agreed. Al Franken fought to the last breath. I respect him so much for that. We need more Democrats with balls.

      • 20 vcprezofan2
        June 5, 2012 at 11:54 pm

        Thank you all for responding. I have to say I do find your system confusing and your political reporters even more so. SIgh! May the ‘stars’ shine brighter tomorrow. Good night.

  8. 21 yardarm756
    June 5, 2012 at 11:23 pm

    BUMMER! G’nite all. Tomorrow is another day as we rush toward 3rd world status.

  9. 23 vcprezofan2
    June 5, 2012 at 11:25 pm

    Wait for me Chips Chica! I think if I sleep on it the news will be brighter tomorrow. G’Night TODville.

  10. 24 Walking_on_ Sunshine
    June 5, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    The best democracy money can buy.

  11. June 5, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    For me this recall effort is a trial run for November. I believe that we have to look at the results and see how we can work from there. I also hope that some of the rich liberals will get off their assess and start pouring millions into the election. We need to fight fire with fire.

    • 27 hopefruit2
      June 5, 2012 at 11:29 pm

      I don’t think tonight has much bearing on November. Unless you believe that the media and GOP plans to steal the presidential elections then.

      • 28 Renegade522/AuntSis
        June 5, 2012 at 11:34 pm

        Yeah, they haven’t tried to steal a ‘Presidential election’ before. OMG. I am very worried. Our side will never have the $ to match Koch and friends. It will take more people to match the Koch one donation. I have got to find a way to give the President more $ for his recall.

        • 29 anniebella
          June 5, 2012 at 11:41 pm

          Please folks, come on. Have faith in President Obama will you? You sound like the media with all this doom and gloom crap.

          • 30 anniebella
            June 5, 2012 at 11:45 pm

            No our side don’t have the money, but there side don’t have President Barack Obama. And really did the Mayor guy really have a chance in the first place? Probably why the President stayed away.

        • 31 Mae who love our CIC
          June 6, 2012 at 5:14 am

          President Obama is not being recalled.

      • 32 anniebella
        June 6, 2012 at 12:04 am

        You mean I missed FLOTUS. Dam!!!!!!! I’m not underestimating money or overestimating money. What I am saying is tonight had nothing to do with November, so why all the doom? POTUS, FLOTUS, and everyone from the Obama camp says this will be a close race,I believe them when they say that, but I also believe it is a race that President Obama can and will win.

        • June 6, 2012 at 10:56 am

          Two pieces of good news in the WI Recall election. We didn’t get rid of Walker, but WI pulled his teeth. The Democrats now control the WI Senate and a Democrat is Majority Leader. Second bit of news is that President Obama holds a big lead over Romney in Wisconsin. We got lots of lemons last night, but methinks I see a nice cold pitcher of lemonade!

    • 35 Melanie
      June 5, 2012 at 11:31 pm

      Amen. The best we can hope it that this opens eye and gets people off their wallets and out to register.

  12. 36 Claire
    June 5, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    What a low turn out. What a shame.

  13. 40 sherijr
    June 5, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    Good night.. Forward indeed.. I’m ALL IN.FullStop.

  14. 41 Liberal Librarian
    June 5, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    Signed up for a phone bank. We just do the work that needs to be done. Night all, time for some brain candy.

  15. 42 GGail
    June 5, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    I’m back from an exhausting WI phone bank with my Los Angeles Jefferson Park Team and I click here to see that Greed won over Decency. Well, tomorrow, I’m putting on my best smile when I see my President here in Los Angeles and nothing, I mean NOTHING will stop me from working to RE-ELECT President Barack Obama.

    Good night my TOD family. Tomorrow we live to fight again.

    • 43 jacquelineoboomer
      June 5, 2012 at 11:38 pm

      That sounds great!

      It’s so hard not to feel defeated tonight, but we can’t let them get us down in the long run working toward our President’s re-election. We’ve been down this road before, and PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS SURVIVED WHATEVER WAS THROWN AT HIM and so will we.

      I have to feel this way, personally, because if Romney ever set one foot on the White House grounds as a bleeping resident, I’d have to find another country to live in. Tomorrow, I donate again!

    • 44 Walking_on_ Sunshine
      June 5, 2012 at 11:51 pm

      Thank you for your work on the WI recall. Thank you to everyone who donated and called and tweeted encouragement and sent pizza to the people in the Capital or whatever you did. Every effort is part of team building and even if it doesn’t work out in the short term, have faith that it builds a foundation for future victories.
      Enjoy your day with the President. You have earned it. God bless you.

  16. 45 Smoothscotch
    June 5, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    Good night everyone.

  17. 46 prettyfoot58
    June 5, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    Good night my TOD family. Tomorrow we live to fight again.

  18. June 5, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    As it turns out, this Wi. election was almost identical to 2010. It’s hard accepting that after all the day long hype about the huge, unprecedented turnout etc., but it was just a repeat.
    http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/157378455.html#!page=1&pageSize=10&sort=newestfirst

    • 48 LunarSea
      June 5, 2012 at 11:39 pm

      Something stinks and it’s not just the cheese.

      • 49 Renegade522/AuntSis
        June 5, 2012 at 11:41 pm

        I am too wired. I cant go to sleep. This election was stolen. I have never seen an election call with only 40% precincts reporting let alone none of the regions that lean democrat. I am very upset.

        • 50 hopefruit2
          June 5, 2012 at 11:45 pm

          Actually my suspicions are growing, not getting less as the night goes on. Something is not adding up. We may not find out until after the Nov 2012 elections, but there is some irregularity with this election. And I’ve been through elections that didn’t turnout the way I wanted, but never have I felt that they were stolen (aside from maybe one or two WI ones with Nikkolaus involved)

    • 51 hopefruit2
      June 5, 2012 at 11:42 pm

      How could that be when there were reports of voter turnout as high as 88%, polling stations running out of ballots, extra poll workers being called due to unexpected turnout etc?

      What about the strange silence from the media during the course of the day?

      Sorry, but my BS-Ometer is actually getting more intense, not fading….

  19. 52 prettyfoot58
    June 5, 2012 at 11:40 pm

    The people of WI stil might win…when Walker is indicted/did the dems when any new seats in the legislature…

    • 53 Renegade522/AuntSis
      June 5, 2012 at 11:42 pm

      No, because the Lt Governor will assume his role and she is a republican too. Women GOP is just a vicious and their men.

    • June 5, 2012 at 11:50 pm

      Well, I’m not going to mope about the election results, If the ppl in WI want Walker they’ve got him, unless the Feds get him first. In the meantime, we’ve got an election to win for PBO.

  20. 55 xtine
    June 5, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    From now on:

  21. 56 xtine
    June 5, 2012 at 11:44 pm

    I’m now going to watch FLOTUS on Letterman!

  22. 57 donna dem 4 obama
    June 5, 2012 at 11:44 pm

    I still don’t understand how we were getting all these reports of record turnout and running out of ballots and registration forms and then end up with mediocre turnout. I guess we are suppose to believe that all those people who registered today voted Walker WTH. Oh well Good Night everyone!

  23. 59 Melanie
    June 5, 2012 at 11:45 pm

    I know many are feeling bad, mad, disappointed, suspicious, etc. Don’t forget FLOTUS is supposed to be on Letterman tonight. Might put a lil smile on faces tonight.

  24. 60 lamh35
    June 5, 2012 at 11:45 pm

    Good night TOD.

    I’ll just leave you with the figures for Walker (~$40mill) and Barrett (~4.5mill). I believe most of the money for Walker came from Koch bros/pacs.

    The Dem PACS have just not had the same fundraising prowess. I guess we don’t have ough millionaires to contribute. But what I want to know if how much of the DNC war chest did people expect the DNC to use on one state (which the POTUS will likely win in November). There is an old song lyric that says “nothing from nothing leaves nothing”. The money just was not there on the DNC side to be able to contribute.

    BTW, Why didn’t Feingold run for Gov? I suspect he would have been better than Barrett against Walker.

    • 61 Renegade522/AuntSis
      June 5, 2012 at 11:53 pm

      Good points all around. I think I will go to previous thread and look at the picture of Idris Elba. Thanks for that. 🙂

    • 65 hopefruit2
      June 5, 2012 at 11:57 pm

      Feingold couldn’t even win his senate seat, I doubt very much that he would win against Walker. And if as I suspect, the same shenanigans were at play, then the result would be the same.

      The one thing that I’ve noticed is that there seems to be an alacrity in the MSM to use the Citizen’s United ruling as a nice excuse every time a Republican wins in an election that should be won by a Democrat. These pundits talk about this with smiles on their faces , and showing no desire to get rid of it. Thus I believe that this Citizens United ruling is smoke and mirrors for something far more illegal and vicious.

    • June 6, 2012 at 12:23 am

      No Feingold. He was another that was not supportive of Obama—too jealous. He’s an odd duck too—-he would be the only one voting against something just to be impressed with himself.

  25. 69 a4alice
    June 5, 2012 at 11:46 pm

    goodnight all. tomorrow is another day!

  26. June 5, 2012 at 11:47 pm

    Love you, Chips.

    Let’s end the night on a good note:

  27. 71 desertflower
    June 5, 2012 at 11:55 pm

    Been silent tonight, just reading what all of you have written. Very disappointed, but now WI will have what they have. I think things are not kosher, but…we shall see. Fired up, as always for PBO….that won’t change. Now more than ever.
    Anyway, I thought this was extremely moving….touched my heart.

    http://www.balloon-juice.com/2012/06/05/the-moral-hazard-of-welfare-is-nothing-to-the-moral-peril-of-allowing-conservatives-to-rule/

  28. 72 xtine
    June 5, 2012 at 11:57 pm

    Shoot, don’t be down. Tomorow morning just think about sending roses on the 32nd to the ForSale in Congress & their sugar-corps (trying not to smear the “daddy” name here cos there are great Dads out there) ! 32nd Right! 🙂

  29. 73 jacquelineoboomer
    June 5, 2012 at 11:57 pm

    FLOTUS does Top 10 Fun Facts About Gardening on Letterman = Priceless.

  30. 74 xtine
    June 5, 2012 at 11:59 pm

    I want my own Barakoli! — From FLOTUS on Letterman!

  31. June 6, 2012 at 12:01 am

    All I have to say is, the President and His Campaign knew that Walker would survive recall.
    He stayed away, if he did not, the loss would have been amplified ten fold
    College Kids are on summer vacation, a big Vote that will show up in November.
    And the Exits showed a lot of Obama Supporters voted for Walker.
    Walker does not have messaging issues, he knows what to say and has massive outside support.

    • 77 hopefruit2
      June 6, 2012 at 12:05 am

      With his all his so-called messaging prowess, he faced a recall election – something that no other governor – Repub or DEM, has faced in the last two years.

      • June 6, 2012 at 12:09 am

        The process of recall, no matter who it is, gets rejected.
        For some reason, after the primary, the polls changed heavily favoring walker.
        It had something to do with the democratic primary, as well!

    • June 6, 2012 at 12:17 am

      I think people are getting the Walker/Obama thing backward. 18% of Walker voters support Obama. I see a diff anyway. It’s not like people were there to vote for Obama and also support Walker. They were there to vote for Walker and also support Obama. Like—18% of Walker voters cannot gut Willard, as they would be expected to do; they much prefer the smart guy. Am I making sense or should I go to bed?

  32. 80 theo67
    June 6, 2012 at 12:06 am

    This could work out pretty well for November, actually. In 2010, everyone was upset over the election results, but as the underdog, President Obama was able to abandon the pursuit of bipartisanship, pass healthcare (even with Scott Brown’s 41st vote) and get a whole other load of stuff done while the GOP were celebrating their “victory”. And in their celebrations, they’ve become so extreme that we even saw a sign from the rednecks yesterday, saying they’ve had enough!

    I honestly believe that the GOP are going to overreach now that they think they’ve got a population of idiots that will sit quietly while they destroy the last vestiges of the middle class. I think the phoenix is going to rise from the ashes on this one. The GOP will take this “victory” and become even more insufferable over the next five months. There are many people who actually have to be burned by the fire in order to learn not to play with matches – the next five months will be very interesting.

    • 81 hopefruit2
      June 6, 2012 at 12:09 am

      Yup I’m not concerned at all for PBO – I think he’ll do just fine in November.

      • June 6, 2012 at 12:13 am

        I have always thought he would win in November, still do, Congress- not so much!

        • 83 theo67
          June 6, 2012 at 12:57 am

          I wouldn’t wish another four years like the last two on President Obama. Nobody deserves to spend eight years fighting this hard for people who can’t fight for themselves. If people don’t wake up and realize that ground is being lost while the GOP have control of the House, and can foil all progress for this country for another four years. The United States will definitely slip behind other countries if people don’t staff the House and Senate with Democrats along with President Obama in the White House. It’s not just domestic gains that are stalled – it’s also global influence and the makeup of the Supreme Court that are in jeopardy.

          The stakes are really high. The GOP need to be deprived of all power so the country can start making progress again. Anything less is futile.

      • 84 HZ
        June 6, 2012 at 12:31 am

        Good Nite Chips and TOD Family. We move FORWARD with Mr. 44th POTUS for a great celebration on Nov.6, 2012. Keep your eyes on the Prize. Do not trouble the waters with tonight’s results, however, keep the beautiful people and the many families who have to live with such ugly, selfish, and dishonest people in WI. We must try to lift them up in our hearts, minds, prayers, and times of quietness. This is very difficult for them tonight.

        We have a great President, and he will continue to be our President of the United States of America because we all here, and all over this country are working to that end. We have each other, and that is a powerful thought and truth. Strive for love, calmness, steady movement, and beautiful works of goodness for all human beings.

        Nite and know that I love you all so much.(((((((((( Thanks for All that you give us, Chips)))))))))HZ

    • 85 desertflower
      June 6, 2012 at 12:14 am

      I hear you…What scares me is what the Koch’s and other outside money WANT for their money. Those millions weren’t just to keep Walker…they own him now, and want their pound of flesh.

      • 86 theo67
        June 6, 2012 at 12:42 am

        The truth is, the people need to wake up. We can’t blame the criminals this time, we have to blame the victims here. There’s nobody who can claim ignorance over Walker’s actions and intentions, especially adding the fact that there’s potentially a criminal indictment that is rumoured to be coming down on Walker (which will probably miraculously disappear). The saying goes: “one can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink”. I feel sorry for the people of Wisconsin who fought hard for their rights, and lost tonight. But, I am eager to see what the GOP have in store for the people who supported them like lambs to the slaughter. Their eyes will be opened, one way or another.

  33. 87 Cha
    June 6, 2012 at 12:15 am

    Well, I came home here on Kaua’i after being out all day with the Election continuously on my mind. I knew the results would be in as i scrolled down the WISCONSIN thread. Sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach that permeates the whole body. I feel bad for all those in Wisconsin who put their very hearts and souls into this recall. So sad for our country I lost my appetite..then I came back to TOD and saw the FORWARD thread and that’s really all it can ever be about.

    They say things happen for a reason and I can’t wait to learn the damn good reason for this loss.

    Thank you Chips for FORWARD & Thank you to all the TOD FAM for your Amazingly Informative News and Positive ‘Tudes!

  34. 88 e
    June 6, 2012 at 12:17 am

    I personally believe that the cable news channels fucked it up for Barrett by not waiting until madison, rancin, dale and milwaukee were in. If u look at TPM barret is catching up adn its still below 10% in.

  35. 89 Believe Again
    June 6, 2012 at 12:17 am

    If these results say anything at all it is simply that to assume President Obama would win because people like him, or that they do not trust Mr Romney is to invite 2004 with Kerry again. The Obama campaign is very good, no doubt about it, however we must understand that we are dealing with people who fight dirty and majority of them are no better than criminals. Republicans know how effective their, lies, half truths and scare tactics are and continue with the same old tricks. I think the most dangerous opponent for the president is the media. The debates will not be fair(Mr Romney with all his money and enablers will be assisted by the US media during these debates) They will find a way to neutralize the president’s advantage as a debater.

    So his supporters should not assume that the president will automatically win these debates unless they are held on neutral ground. Allowing random members of the public to ask the questions. Americans should be demonstrating in front of the organization that monitors the media demanding that the media represent some semblance of facts at least.

    This whole thing is just a mess, the media are doing what they did in 2004 during that famous election steal and they are going to do it again in 2012 unless the people do something.

    • 90 0388jojothecat
      June 6, 2012 at 12:34 am

      I agree Believe again. The media is working overtime to miss lead and the reports that are regurgitated by the blogs need to be viewed as suspect and not fact. All those reports of high turn out was concocted to take suspicion away from what? This all seems so fishy to me and the way the media called it for Walker so early.

      Someone in another thread said don’t come down on Wisconsin people because they really worked their asses off and I agree. When California went through our recall and the circus behind all the joke candidates and that includes Arnold, it was devastating that people voted him into office. The next day, California went up in flames, we had one of the worst fires that October. Chin up Wisconsin, chin up TOD’s, we live to fight another day.

  36. 91 pugeretto
    June 6, 2012 at 12:20 am

    Good night to all, I still don’t understand how media can call sooooo soon. We have to turn CU to have our country back. Why do Obama supporters vote for Walker…Here’s to November. Thanks for all the insight on this crazy short-lived evening…& I missed Letterman…do-over tomorrow!

  37. 92 globalcitizenlinda
    June 6, 2012 at 12:23 am

    there are times when I am baffled at what to say and this is one of those times

    I do not want to feel this way come nov

  38. June 6, 2012 at 12:24 am

    Comments (66) By CHARLES MAHTESIAN | 6/5/12 6:53 PM EDT
    By all reports, voter turnout is extremely high in Wisconsin today and Twitter has been abuzz with reports of 119 percent turnout in the liberal stronghold of Madison.

    But that number — which would have meant more voters than people actually registered to vote before election day (a possibility due to same day registration) — appears to be off-the-mark.

    According to Madison Clerk Maribeth Witzel-Behl’s office – where the original report is said to have originated – the projected turnout there is on a pace for 96 percent, not 119 percent.

    Still, that’s pretty astounding.

    It’s possible it looked like 119 percent at one time; the clerk’s office told me that turnout numbers are extrapolated by looking at actual turnout at various intervals during the day. As of 4:00 pm Central, 48 percent of registered voters had actually turned out. The 96 percent figure is calculated by doubling that figure at the close of polls at 8:00 pm.

  39. 94 xtine
    June 6, 2012 at 12:33 am

    I’ll bid you goodnight & leave you w/ the positive sounds of Curtis:

    Peace!

  40. June 6, 2012 at 12:35 am

    The Obama campaign — which has largely kept President Obama himself out of the Wisconsin recall election — puts out a statement saying that a message had been sent to Gov. Scott Walker, despite his win.

    “While tonight’s outcome was not what we had hoped for – no one can dispute the strong message sent to Governor Walker. Hundreds of thousands of Wisconsinites from all walks of life took a stand against the politics of division and against the flood of secret and corporate money spent on behalf of Scott Walker, which amounted to a massive spending gap of more than $31 million to $4 million,” Tripp Wellde, campaign state director, said in a statement.

    “It is a testament to all of those individuals who talked to their friends, neighbors, and colleagues about the stakes in this election of how close this contest was. The power of Wisconsin’s progressive, grassroots tradition was clearly on display throughout the run up to this election and we will continue to work together to ensure a brighter future for Wisconsin’s middle class,” Wellde said.

    The campaign also said that the exit polling data showing Obama pulling ahead of Romney was an ominous sign for the GOP nominee.

    “This vision was shared by the voters tonight, as exit polling showed President Obama beating Mitt Romney 52-43, a 9-point difference. On the questions of who would do a better job on the economy and who would help the middle class the most, President Obama again held a strong advantage over Romney. These data points clearly demonstrate a very steep pathway for Mitt Romney to recover in the state,” Wellde said.

    And Obama campaign senior strategist David Axelrod tweeted: “Bad night in Boston…WI raises big questions for Mitt.”

  41. June 6, 2012 at 12:37 am

    Its weird. I would have been excited if Barrett had won and thought I would be crushed if Walker won. Now that Walker has won I’m like, “meh”. President Obama didn’t tie himself to the recall nor did the Dems spend a shit load of money there ( Although some will argue that we should have we just don’t have it and the DNC must save its money for the massive elections this year). If the people of WI want to keep Walker, let them keep Walker. Seriously folks don’t worry. Turn off the bobble heads for a few days.

    • 99 Renegade522/AuntSis
      June 6, 2012 at 1:00 am

      You are right. The Media wanted to tie PBO to this… ..especially that Shultz. He was quite belligerent that the DNC would not give more $. I think he said that the President would pay if he and DNC didn’t do more. This ‘politicking’ is not for me. I really didn’t anticipate feeling this way.

      Thanks for the good advice. 🙂

  42. June 6, 2012 at 12:39 am

    Barack Obama Dem 1,670,474 56.3%
    John McCain GOP 1,258,181 42.4%

    How may votes total tonight, and how many total votes barrett will get. No where near obama

    At 96%

    Walker
    1,237,728 Votes
    53.6%

    Barrett (D)
    1,058,352 Votes
    45.8%

    Trivedi (I)
    13,341 Votes

    Close to 600,000 obama voters didn’t vote in this recall election.

  43. 103 Renegade522/AuntSis
    June 6, 2012 at 12:43 am

    I think I have the right to ‘freak out’ over this election even though I am far from WI. Folks have freak out on this site for less. I am so disappointed, upset and angry. This is the second time in my lifetime that I have witness a ‘stolen election’. There can’t be a number three.

    You know I write science fiction. I write about the future and space and aliens and new worlds and destruction of worlds. I really feel like I am living in one and its the beginning of nightmare.

    Ok, I am going to look at Eldris again. 🙂 🙂

    • 104 theo67
      June 6, 2012 at 12:48 am

      It is what it is, Renegade. There’s a saying that says something like “it doesn’t matter how many times you fall. It matters how many times you get up”. There are still more battles to win.

      • 105 Renegade522/AuntSis
        June 6, 2012 at 1:02 am

        You are right. There will be many battles before the war in November. Thanks for the words of wisdom.

        • 106 theo67
          June 6, 2012 at 1:21 am

          Have a good night! Avoid the punditry tomorrow. Listen to music, look at lovely pictures of the First Family, who keep fighting despite 3.5 years of the most punishing scrutiny and attacks – still smiling and still hoping. 🙂

  44. June 6, 2012 at 12:51 am

    Can anyone explain 36% of Union households voting for Walker? Wasn’t that basically what the whole thing was about? The crushing of their livelihoods? Isn’t that like taking a sledge hammer to your head? Voting against their self-interests. It’s a mind-boggler. What’s the matter with Wisconsin?

    • 108 hopefruit2
      June 6, 2012 at 12:56 am

      These might have been union households who also happened to be Republican and who would never vote for a DEM.

    • 109 sabreen60
      June 6, 2012 at 1:11 am

      As I said it’s like chickens voting for KFC. Yes, there are union members who vote GOP. Don’t understand why. I did read (can’t remember where) that some folks in rural WI had a problem with the Dem candidate for Lt. Governor.

    • 110 Obama Grandmama
      June 6, 2012 at 6:42 am

      One thing I noticed when I was teaching and in a Union is there are a lot of people that hate Unions. They don’t like having to pay their dues and want to keep that money. They think of the days of mafia influences and not earlier when the Unions got the workers all of the safe working conditions and benefits the corporations were not caring about. It seems they need to be faced with the problems before they understand the benefits. The divide and conquer strategy actually works so is employed by the GOP. That is why I can understand 1/3 of the Union workers voting against union rights. There was always a minority of people involved in the actual Union activities of our Union. The people wanted all of the benefits without their participation or money involved in it. Selfish? Yes!

  45. 111 Renegade522/AuntSis
    June 6, 2012 at 1:11 am

    OK, one more post and then I am going to rest.

    Looks like Bill Clinton “the big dog’ didn’t have much of an impact. Earlier today, Chris Matthews said that the former President knows how to talk to folks in WI. He will be a ‘great benefit ‘for the campaign. Well, lookie here. He didn’t help much. Numbers are in the Obama pulled in more voters in 2008. I am going to send them a nice little tweet to that effect.

    I just noticed the new MSM word change. Yesterday, it was progressive and liberals in WI. Today it will be democrats and union supports in WI. The media is not our friend.

  46. 112 Tally
    June 6, 2012 at 1:12 am

  47. 113 yardarm756
    June 6, 2012 at 1:18 am

  48. 114 Tally
    June 6, 2012 at 1:24 am

    I have a really hard time believing in a GOP sweep in WI.

  49. 118 Tally
    June 6, 2012 at 1:30 am

    Is WI a total e-voting state?

  50. 122 Renegade522/AuntSis
    June 6, 2012 at 2:24 am

    there’s hope…Orly Taitz lost in CA. Hahahaha.

    • 123 57andfemale
      June 6, 2012 at 2:37 am

      I went and had a good stiff drink and fell asleep. With the way WI went I was afraid Orly would win.

      • 124 Renegade522/AuntSis
        June 6, 2012 at 2:43 am

        LOL. I needed a good hearty laugh. Perhaps I will have a glass of wine and my mind will settle. Thanks again.!!

  51. 125 57andfemale
    June 6, 2012 at 2:33 am

    Looks like we did re-take the state Senate in WI.

    • 126 57andfemale
      June 6, 2012 at 2:44 am

      We’ll see if the lead holds up. They’re waiting on one precinct. The margin for the Dem is razor-thin. 800 votes.

      • 127 Cha
        June 6, 2012 at 3:55 am

        Well, Sorry, I read that wrong..So Wishful Reading! The State Senate..well, wouldn’t that be GOOD!!

    • 128 Cha
      June 6, 2012 at 3:51 am

      What the heck, 57! So, Tom Barrett can take back his “concession”? That’s why one doesn’t concede if they’re still votes to be counted..no matter what happens this time.

      • 129 Cha
        June 6, 2012 at 3:53 am

        CORRECTION.. IF THERE ARE STILL VOTES TO BE COUNTED.

        • 130 Obama Grandmama
          June 6, 2012 at 6:51 am

          I got up at 3am due to not being able to sleep. I turned on MSNBC and saw something about Tom Barrett’s concession speech and a woman that slapped him for not waiting till all the people inline had finished voting. I then turned the station so as not to watch Morning Joe. I also deleted without watching all the MSNBC shows earlier in the evening after going off this blog having found out it was projected as a Walker win. It does seem unbelievable after the day’s reporting of unheard of crowds voting. It is hard to believe that there are that many GOPs that don’t vote in the first place or that many Dems that vote GOP.
          I do remember hearing that FL voted for Rick Scott for gov even though he was accused of criminal activities with his health care company.

  52. 131 Bill R.
    June 6, 2012 at 3:56 am

    WI Dems retake the Senate. No automatic recount. They can block any more Walker foolishness. With any luck Walker will soon be indicted, be forced to resign and doing the perp walk.

    • 132 globalcitizenlinda
      June 6, 2012 at 6:37 am

      if this is true it is the only piece of good news on a rather ugly WI night.

      Did the gop also take the Lt Gov?

  53. 133 globalcitizenlinda
    June 6, 2012 at 6:39 am

    Daily Caution/Reminder:

    • Central Question for all PBO-supporters: How is what I am doing and saying today helping PBO to get re-elected with a supporting congress and senate?

    • Stay on message put out in focus for today/week by Team Obama;

    • Please do everything you can to amplify today’s message from Team Obama to any outlet (MSM, Blogs, Social Network, Friends and Relatives you can;

    • Respond to ALL lying reports with links to specific facts;

    • See you at President Obama’s Second Inauguration (January 2013);

  54. 135 prettyfoot58
    June 6, 2012 at 6:54 am

    Gooooood Morning…TOD…..

    Listening to Bill Press…this morning….
    do you think that it would have made a difference if the National Dem had made winning WI a national priority…

    • 136 prettyfoot58
      June 6, 2012 at 6:55 am

      i do think that we need to take a hard look at what happened and learn what we need to do moving Forward!!…

    • 137 amk for obama
      June 6, 2012 at 7:12 am

      No, it would not have made any difference. My take on this

      1. History suggests that recalls rarely happen and still rarerly (?) succeed.

      2. The recent WI state senators recalls weren’t exactly a grand success. The dems just made it by their teeth of their lives.

      3. That recall should have given some pause for WI dems & labor to rethink their strategy and their timing for last night’s fiasco.

      4. All the emotional bloviating of teh teevee & blogs is just froth. (pun intended).

      5. Dems are totally relying on big city votes to coast. Not enough canvassing is being done in rural & suburban areas.

      6. walker & co should have been given one more year to destroy themselves. This recall was too early for the people to feel the pinch of walker’s disastrous policies.

      7. Dem voters need not be engaged in politics like us. They just need to haul their asses off to the polls and vote blindly for the dem tickets. That’s how the thugs do it. Ironic that the voter disenfranchising rethugs always get their own voters to vote.

      8, Getting angry and campaigning on pure emotions doesn’t cut it. At least for dem voters.

      9. Running a dem primary in this crucial election was the stupidest mistake. It was a sheer waste of time, money and more importantly, voter enthusiasm and energy.

      10. Plouffe & co and DNC probably read the writing on the wall on the last WI senate recalls and decided to stay away this time. A wise move.

      • 138 prettyfoot58
        June 6, 2012 at 7:17 am

        6. walker & co should have been given one more year to destroy themselves. This recall was too early for the people to feel the pinch of walker’s disastrous policies…

        **************************************

        Interesting point….

        makes me think of the President and his continual focus on the LONG game….

  55. 139 geeja
    June 6, 2012 at 7:11 am

    This election in WI shows how important it is for Potus to be re-elected. SCOTUS has to be fixed and the only way to do that is to keep Robney out of the Whitehouse. SCOTUS is undermiing this country and we have to stop them. Obama Biden 2012!
    Good Morning TOD folks. “Let’s Get To Work”!

    • June 6, 2012 at 7:26 am

      There is something else. The republican governors have used the people’s anger and anxiety during this economy and focused it at the public employee unions. So instead of people directing their anger towards Wall Street and the banks which caused the recession, they take it out on the public employees. After all, they get a pension and other benefits and their benefits are drying up . Instead of fighting for what they have lost, they get mad at those who still have something. All politics is local and so are the state public employee unions.I see it in NJ. Christie had been a master at divide tactics and many people just love it. Those teachers make too much money, etc. I thought Barrett had a chance but the result doesn’t surprise me.

      • 141 globalcitizenlinda
        June 6, 2012 at 7:44 am

        this is the right reason you state: instead of getting angry at wall street that stole the money and broke the election, the people are angry at the public employees who still have something (gop uses the politics of envy to divide the voters).

        • June 6, 2012 at 8:17 am

          In Wisconsin, with the medusa help! They propped up walker and made him out to be a victim.
          That is why recalls are so difficult…

      • June 6, 2012 at 8:10 am

        The media in Wisconsin is All right wing. I can tell you in Florida, it’s half and half. Like most States their is a balance. Wisconsin was bought by the Kochs.
        Let’s not let them by any other States.
        The Household value of America is 57 trillion dollars, the Kochs don’t have that much Money!

  56. 144 globalcitizenlinda
    June 6, 2012 at 7:46 am

    is it true that a woman slapped “Tom Barrett for giving his concession speech not waiting till all the people inline had finished voting”?.

    • 145 joyce
      June 6, 2012 at 8:02 am

      On the local news there was a young lady that did slap him while he was going thru the crowd, but no sound. It was reported they called security to take her away. But by her facial expressions she was not pleased with him.

  57. 146 globalcitizenlinda
    June 6, 2012 at 7:50 am

    is is going to be a hard day in the political neighborhood for dems and PBO supporters so we expect it and have to brace ourselves for the nonsense.

    to combat this gloating from the MSM punditry and rightwingers, please consider donating to PBO, or encouraging one person to register to vote for PBO

  58. 148 donna dem 4 obama
    June 6, 2012 at 7:55 am

    I think the one thing that we are missing is what this loss will do to Unions. PBO will be fine. This never did have anything to do with PBO. He will win WI in November. Scott Walker and Koch/Rove & Co. want to destroy Unions. If they do, then they will get rid of all the out side money that the Dems get to compete in future elections. We will be okay this November but in future years if the Unions continue to lose memberships because they are losing their power via voting rights then it will have a negative affect on Dems. This is a long term plan by the big Republican money machine. Union households said okay we are cool with this by their votes last night.

    I’m off to work. Everyone have a great productive O’Day!

    • 149 globalcitizenlinda
      June 6, 2012 at 8:26 am

      i do not understand these so called “union households” who vote pro-walker

      • 150 miss pat
        June 6, 2012 at 11:08 am

        Neither do I, and that’s what’s upsetting to me. Eleven years ago when I retired some of the union haters were the first in line to sign up for early retirement and the cost of living supplement hat the union fought for and won for us who took the package. They never stood in line during a strike, never paid dues but were quick to grab all they can. Disgusting people.

    • 151 4morefor44
      June 6, 2012 at 8:34 am

      that’s exactly it. the vilifying of unions has been in full force for decades for this exact reason. it’s part of the ‘divide and conquer’ thing that scott walker was caught admitting. even yesterday, three people i talked to about the wi recall all said some form or fashion right off the bat, “yea, it’s a tough choice since they’re (republicans) are bad in social issues, but the unions this and the unions that….blah blah blah…”

      they’ve been programmed to think and say that, even though i pointed out to them a report i had seen that union membership is down to about 7% of the population now, as opposed to around 40% in the 1960s when america’s economy was booming and becoming the world superpower. then there was another report that showed all of union lobbying in washington d.c. totals about 1% of all lobbying, the rest being big business and social issues groups (mostly religious). i always point stuff out like this when talking to a republican or “swing voter,” and how unions have been in a steady decline for 30-40 years, which coincides directly with america’s debt and economic problems. as always, yesterday all three stammered and just made a nervous little joke and changed the subject. it’s like i’m talking to a pre-programmed robot each time. and i didn’t even get started about the next point – how effective tax rates are lower than ever right now and have been since ronald reagan’s regime!!! we have such an uphill battle every election with the msm poisoning of the population.

  59. June 6, 2012 at 8:02 am

    http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/event/article/id/233638/group/homepage/

    Looks like we took back State Senate in Wisconsin. All precincts reporting, 800 vote lead.
    Walker is a lame Duck! So, it did work, in some respects!

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/06/1097794/-WI-Dems-Take-Back-State-Senate

    Good morning!

  60. 155 Linda
    June 6, 2012 at 8:03 am

    Good Morning….

    I had the tv on for a few minutes early this morning and watched Howard Dean slap John Meacham and Harold Ford Jr around a little on Morning Junk.

    Seems like those two have no problem with our Democracy being sold to the highest bidder.

  61. 156 Mary Gray
    June 6, 2012 at 8:05 am

    Glad to see folks are taking positive energy from this WI loss. I am more energized than ever to put my time and money to PBO re election.

  62. June 6, 2012 at 8:10 am

    PBO ‘s ability to raise money this election cycle may not ever be matched by future Democratic candidates, and that’s the scary part going forward.

  63. 158 hopefruit2
    June 6, 2012 at 8:12 am

    So NY Times has Walker’s win as their headlines, but fails to “headline” that the DEMS take back the senate in WI, which is just as if not more important. In fact the NY Times takes it a step further in their attempts to embolden Republicans by saying (in the same headline): “The victory by Gov Scott Walker ensures that Republicans largely retain control Wisconsin, as Mr. Walker’s fast-rising political profile is likely to soar among conservatives.”

    That is simply not true. The Dems took back the senate in WI which means they can block harmful legislation pushed by the Repubs. Walker is not that popular and might very well find himself behind bars in the not-too distant future. But this is exactly how the news media has instigated and enabled outrageous and treasonous GOP behavior in the last 3 years. And it’s time we hold them accountable. My TV will be turned off for the entire day today, and when it’s on, it will be on some non-news item recorded in my DVR.

    • 159 globalcitizenlinda
      June 6, 2012 at 8:21 am

      we need to challenge the NY Times and other news outlets

    • June 6, 2012 at 8:26 am

      Worse! David Gergen was obviously reading RNC emails last night saying, that because of that win. Michigan and perhaps Pennsylvania are now in play.
      Lol! Yeah okay!

  64. 162 globalcitizenlinda
    June 6, 2012 at 8:16 am

    in terms of practical results on the WI ground, PBO and Team Obama need to find at least 1 million additional pro-Obama voters by Nov 6th. Can we do this?

    • 163 Bill
      June 6, 2012 at 8:29 am

      The exit polls in WI yesterday showed PBO beating Willard in November.

      • 164 globalcitizenlinda
        June 6, 2012 at 8:51 am

        yes, exit polls did but the real results given have a vote difference of 250K real published votes (dems negative by 250k).

        keeping in mind the icomparison to the number of people who voted in 2008 for PBO but did not show up show up for the recall or chose to vote for walker is 600K.

        my humble suggestion is I was organizing for PBO in WI is to get an additional 1M voters to those who showed up today then I would be sure to win otherwise we know the gop will cheat if there is a slight difference in support

      • 165 globalcitizenlinda
        June 6, 2012 at 8:54 am

        what I am trying to say is that I do not trust those people who said they will vote for PBO but voted for walker. given the stakes, I believe they are lying or are unreliable PBO-voters so I would NEVER put the fate of PBO in their hands

  65. June 6, 2012 at 8:22 am

    What I don’t understand? MSNBainC was the only channel saying the Democrats have come out to vote in droves, all Day yesterday!
    CNN was much more restrained and was certain Walker was going to win, throughout the Day. Did MSNBainC sandbag?
    2 different Worlds, one reality!

    • 167 hopefruit2
      June 6, 2012 at 8:37 am

      It wasn’t just MSNBC saying that DEMs have come out to vote in droves. It was reported all over Twitter, on blogs, while the rest of the MSM was strangely silent all day. CNN was not certain that Walker was going to win – they began to change their narrative at some point saying that even if Barrett wins, it’s still bad news for the Democrats.

      There were reports from the ground of polling stations running out of ballots, same-day voter registrations, more poll workers being recruited, long, long lines in heavy DEM areas etc. And this wasn’t from MSNBC. It was all over the damn internet.

      • June 6, 2012 at 8:46 am

        And I didn’t pay attention to msnbc. I was following the news media in Milwaukee and Madison, who were reporting unprecedented numbers, which was true—–large turnout, but a large turnout everywhere, not just in Dem favored areas—–even tho most of the emphasis was on the Dem poll locations. The Marquette U. law school poll was pretty much right on the money.

      • June 6, 2012 at 8:48 am

        Somebody was lying!

  66. 170 globalcitizenlinda
    June 6, 2012 at 8:24 am

    truth be told, if I had a “friend” who voted for walker but claims to support PBO, I would just count that as vote for mitt the bulying perpetuar liar

    • 171 hopefruit2
      June 6, 2012 at 8:27 am

      I find that strange too.

    • June 6, 2012 at 8:38 am

      I think it’s just as simple as that 18% of Walker/Obama supporters were anti-recall Obama people. Many do not like the idea of overturning an election, even if they don’t like the results. That’s why impeachments and recalls are rarely successful.

      • June 6, 2012 at 8:54 am

        Correct! And our Campaign knew this!

      • 174 globalcitizenlinda
        June 6, 2012 at 8:56 am

        true that is what they say; but love for process cannot have been greater than what was at in this recall. this is not one of those times when you love process – I just do not trust them at all

        • 175 globalcitizenlinda
          June 6, 2012 at 8:57 am

          but love for process cannot have been greater than what was at stake in this recall; these are the Nader 2000 voters’ reasoning

  67. 176 isonprize
    June 6, 2012 at 8:35 am

    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . KEEP MARCHING!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >FORWARD!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

  68. June 6, 2012 at 8:36 am

    Good Morning my TODville family. I am having difficulty writing this morning. Please just let me say I feel your pain. You have no choice however it must be FORWARD ever backward never as the saying here goes. Please let us lift ourselves up, dust ourselves off and PRESS ON. PBO would expect nothing less. I feel included in his fight to make the lives of all Americans better because I truly believe that Leaders around the World will follow him and do right by their people. There are millions of people like myself and many othere here who feel that they want a Leader just like him, they want their relationship to be like the one he has and so I feel that when good things happen in your country it will happen in my country too. Call me silly but that is how I feel about this President. It is a fact that there probably will never be another Leader such as President Obama. Just Look at all the sites dedicate to him, the people like us who have stayed with him since 2007 (some before) and continue to believe in him and are working so hard to re-elect him. The other side is afraid of him we know that but he is strong and with the Prayers of Millions of people and the hard work of Millions of people I am confident that he will win the next Election. Wisconsin sorry for the loss last night but please don’t give up. I plan to stay away from the msn today and try to re-focus on the task at hand. Miss Chips please give us our daily fix so that we can begin to smile again. Thank you for this Place and Thanks to all who reside here. God Bless. (sorry for the ramble)


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