Chat away



Hi everyone, I’ll be back later today and will catch up then, meanwhile …. chat away. 😉

205 Responses to “Chat away”

  1. 3 Elle in MI
    May 25, 2012 at 11:23 am


  2. 5 57andfemale
    May 25, 2012 at 11:27 am

    Some quotes just make me smile:

    “Another point about the decay of the conservative intelligentsia is just how far people go when they finally quit the movement. They don’t just fade into retirement or neutrality, they get angry. Bruce Bartlett, a former Reagan adviser, says things like ““I think a good chunk of the Republican caucus is either stupid, crazy, ignorant or craven cowards, who are desperately afraid of the tea party people, and rightly so.” David Frum, former speechwriter for George W. Bush, wrote a piece titled “When Did the GOP Lose Touch With Reality?”


  3. 6 LOL
    May 25, 2012 at 11:28 am

    Looks like a terrorist to me…a hippie one to boot.

  4. 8 57andfemale
    May 25, 2012 at 11:31 am

    The NY Times’s notoriously astute Timothy Egan looks at America’s political crackpot mecca, Arizona, what with its Sherlock secretary of state, its Maricopa sheriff of Nuttingham, and its frightfully pixilated grifter of a governor, and concludes that

    There’s no mystery what a nation run by the Tea Party and talk-radio zealots who’ve taken over the G.O.P. would look like. It would be Arizona.


  5. May 25, 2012 at 11:31 am

    Good morning, TOD family. Hope everyone is well and ready for a nice Memorial Day weekend. I am currently at the Social Security office. I turn 65 in August so I am just getting info today. My hubby’s is coming off the Appalachian Trail today (in Lee, MA) and will be home sometime this weekend. He has done great but admits his body and especially his feet are ready for a rest. He will be home most of June before returning to the trail.

    Happy day to everyone!!!!!!!

    • 12 HZ
      May 25, 2012 at 12:57 pm

      Good Morning Tnmtngirl. Have a great day and I pray all will go well at the SS Office. Joining the beautiful club of hot sixties. Yes, Yes!!!! Have a wonderful and beautiful Memorial Day weekend as well. Hug Mom for me the next time you visit. ((((((((((((((( HZ )))))))))))))

  6. 14 Roberta in MN
    May 25, 2012 at 11:35 am

    Good Morning everyone. Have a safe Memorial Day weekend what ever you do. 🙂

  7. 15 57andfemale
    May 25, 2012 at 11:36 am

    PM Carpenter, again brilliant:

    “Think again, Mitt

    Mitt Romney may want to scale back his assaults on the deplorable state of American education. It’s what elects Republicans.”

  8. 16 Ceb
    May 25, 2012 at 11:37 am

    Hello everyone. Final grades have been posted and school will soon be out ( the teachers are more excited than the students). Looking forward to participating in the topics more and getting involved in voter registration and education ( I live in one of the voter suppression states).
    Finally first after a long drought. I am usually too shy to ask for anything as a reward, but that is over! dear Chilps, I would like one of the photos that show PBO and Michelle lost in each other (Robin Thicke’s “Lost with out you” has been stuck in my head this morning). Thanks much.

    • 17 HZ
      May 25, 2012 at 1:01 pm

      Morning Ceb. Oh, how I remember those wonderful days. Have a great time of relaxation and of course visitng here with your TOD family in days, weeks, and months to come. Time is clicking away for sure. Moving FORWARD. Have a great and giving thanks for those who gave their lives for our freedoms and people all around the globe. Be peaceful and get some rest. HZ

    • 19 Betsy
      May 25, 2012 at 4:23 pm

      I have one week to go, so I know how great you are feeling right now. I have tons of grading to get through before having final grades June 4th. Have a wonderful weekend!

      • 20 CEB
        May 25, 2012 at 4:33 pm

        Thanks, Betsy.

        I teach seniors who finish before the rest of the classes (graduation is June 5th). I was sweating it out last week, so I know how you feel. Keeping my fingers crossed that there is no last minute drama from parents who want me to give passing grades to the few who failed. Hang in there, we are almost to the promised land of Summer Vacation.

  9. 21 Ladyhawke
    May 25, 2012 at 11:39 am


    By Steve Benen


    As Jamelle Bouie explained, Romney’s “key asset is the appearance of competence. By virtue of his look, composure and business background, voters assume that he has command over issues and that he could succeed if elected president…. [But] for all the talk of job creation, the Republican nominee doesn’t have a plan for stimulating the economy.”

    Indeed, he’s not even trying.

    Consider the six ideas now on tap for Romney’s first day: tax cuts for the wealthy (which we know do little to boost demand), an oil pipeline (which might create some jobs, but not as many as the right likes to pretend), less access to health care (which wouldn’t do the economy any favors), deficit reduction (austerity doesn’t work), fewer regulations (which is vague and pointless), and a trade war with China (which would be incredibly dangerous).

    The myth of this guy’s competence has been greatly exaggerated.



    • May 25, 2012 at 4:19 pm

      I personally don’t think Romney looks very composed. He usually looks like a frightened rabbit, and his sweaty performance the other day – on FOX “News”, for that matter, was extra troubling. Everything about him is fraudulent.

      • 23 Cha
        May 25, 2012 at 4:52 pm

        I know, theo, I did a doubletake at that line too. Who was Benen watching? Is there a smooth willard in there that pops out at times?

      • 24 Eleroy
        May 25, 2012 at 9:59 pm


        Thanks Theo!!! This attempt to paint the smarmy, slimy, robotic Romney as “looking presidential” gets a major guffaw from moi!!!

        His smacking lips and shifty eyes added to the stick up the butthole gait is anything but “presidential”!!!

  10. 25 Ladyhawke
    May 25, 2012 at 11:40 am


    Lis Smith ‏@Lis_Smith


    .@Michael_Nutter on @MittRomney’s opposition to smaller class sizes: “I’m not sure what universe he’s operating in.”


    • 26 0388jojothecat
      May 25, 2012 at 11:50 am

      I know, he wants to compare what Europeans do however he failed to tell anyone that in Finland there are two teachers in a classroom with a large number of kids. That kids who are no keeping up get special one-on-one attention so that they can catch up. HDNET Dan Rather had a show about Finland’s education system and that the entire country decided to put more money into public education, teachers are highly paid and more students go into education than most fields.

      • 27 57andfemale
        May 25, 2012 at 12:51 pm

        Other aspects to students doing well: universal health care and social programs that impact and lift all classes.

        My husband grew up really poor. His ability to function in class had a lot to do with whether or not he got breakfast that morning, if his shoes were big enough and his coat warm enough, and what his attitude was after being sent at 8 years old to beg the coal supplier for a bucket of coal before going to school.

        Enlightened societies in the 21st century give children a foundation upon which to succeed. There is no question that the diversity in America makes it difficult to compare to Finland. But this nation has done an abysmal job of providing an even playing field to its citizens. Republicans call it ‘freedom’ and ‘opportunity’. Those words should be bleeped out every time they use them, because they have relegated them to profanity in their heartless constructs.

    • 32 Obama Grandmama
      May 25, 2012 at 9:26 pm

      I’m a retired teacher and I have never known any teacher that thought it would be better for the students to have more kids instead of less in their classes. I know my current daughter-in-law who teaches agrees. The only thing that might tilt the percentage against a small class is if the classes were not balanced out and it was a small class of trouble makers compared to a large class of kids that followed all the rules.

  11. 33 Linda
    May 25, 2012 at 11:41 am

    Out of 178 nations, the U.S. is one of three that does not offer paid maternity leave benefits, let alone paid leave for fathers, which more than 50 of these nations offer. Here’s how the U.S. stacks up to 14 other countries:


    Is this what the right calls American Exceptionlism ?

    • 34 trinisamba
      May 25, 2012 at 2:49 pm

      Good information. Add Trinidad & Tobago to that list, a so-called “third world country” where women get 13 weeks paid maternity leave. 50% is paid by the employer and 50% is paid from National Insurance benefits. Several companies are now giving fathers 5 days paid paternity leave. BUT, we are a growing nation as we will be celebrating 50 years of Independence on August 31 2012. Free terciary education is also available to ALL, including Masters programmes.

    • 35 theo67
      May 25, 2012 at 4:30 pm

      This is why Americans need to question the GOP when they spend all day talking about “American Exceptionalism”, but are working hard to define that exception by depriving citizens of basic social stability that other countries (including developing countries) are now establishing for themselves. This is a pretty sad graph. (I’m proud of Canada, though).

  12. 36 sheinfrance
    May 25, 2012 at 11:42 am

    Good morning TOD’ers
    whilst I live in france, I’m British (for my sins) and sometimes read The Daily Mail online. I am so tired of some American people saying so many hateful thing about Mr. Obama. I have noted that it seems to be the same people and they are all from the states you would expect them to be from! It’s really disheartening. Thank goodness for here; have a great weekend all. xx

  13. 38 57andfemale
    May 25, 2012 at 11:48 am

    Mommy needs to take away my internet so I get some work done today.

  14. 41 LOL
    May 25, 2012 at 11:54 am

    Great Read By Joe Klein… As we say in the internets BOOOM!!!

    The meme of the day in journo-world is that President Obama has stumbled at the outset of the general election campaign. The evidence for this? Well, uh, there isn’t very much, really–except that a few Democrats have criticized his campaign’s attacks on Mitt Romney’s record at Bain Capital and that Obama’s fundraising is merely humongous, instead of obscenely humongous. The two phenomena are linked, of course: Obama isn’t getting the usual haul from Wall Street because he has outrageously–outrageously!–tried to regulate the bankers who did so much to crash the economy in 2008. The handful of Democrats squawking are people who either (a) get money from private equity firms or (b) have retired and joined Mondo Casino. But there is another side to this story:
    I suspect that these Bain attacks are working. Indeed, I suspect the reason that the Obama campaign–and the President himself in an extraordinary moment at the NATO press conference last week–is so adamant about pursuing this tactic is that it (a) lays the predicate for the anti-Romney campaign to come and (b) has been extremely effective with focus groups. And so, what we may be seeing here is the exact opposite of a stumble.

    A President has to be about long-term growth, not short-term profits–and to the extent that Barack Obama is using the Bain ads to make this larger argument, he is not “stumbling” or attacking “free enterprise,” but he is steering the conversation toward the most important topic this year: what sort of economy do we want to have and how do we get there?

    Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2012/05/25/obama-stumbles/#ixzz1vthO33oq


    • 42 0388jojothecat
      May 25, 2012 at 2:13 pm

      The msm are like monkeys….they just pull crap out of there arses and see if it sticks to the wall.

    • 43 theo67
      May 25, 2012 at 4:46 pm

      The GOP spent the last three years destroying the economy (after spending the last eight years doing the same), and taunting the electorate that this 2012 election would be all about the economy and President Obama’s “failed policies”. The same “failed policies” that have doubled the stock market, recovered the auto industry, ended a war and started ending the other, made the government more efficient, signed into law $2 trillion in spending cuts, signed 18 tax cuts for small businesses into law, guaranteed a path to pay fairness for women, and grown jobs by over four million – including the many untold millions that were saved via the Stimulus Plan. The GOP have also claimed that the President won’t want to talk about his record. This record.

      Well, the President is ready to talk about his record and he’s ready to talk about the economy. Now – they don’t want to talk about the economy. And they’re spinning a fantasy about his record and running against a boogeyman.

      This is going to be good. They won’t know what hit them.

    • 44 Cha
      May 25, 2012 at 4:59 pm

      I like this reference.. “The handful of Democrats squawking are people who either (a) get money from private equity firms or (b) have retired and joined Mondo Casino.”

      The handful of Dems have separated themselves as those who don’t bite the hand that feeds them…that is so special..

  15. 45 ChristiMTL
    May 25, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    Trump: ‘The Truth’ Is That Obama Was ‘Born In Kenya’ |

    In an interview with the Daily Beast published today Donald Trump asserts that Obama was born in Kenya,


    So ok now, this came out today….he’s still at it worst than ever.

    Trump is a surrogate for Romney

    What’s wrong with this picture?….why do they go after birther politicians like that guy from Colorado but that hideous Trump gets a free pass?

    He gets away with pure racism, basically saying that President Obama is a fraud but it’s all fine for the MSM??

    • 46 amk for obama
      May 25, 2012 at 12:08 pm

      chump cannot get over the fact that Obama kicked his nutz and made him the carnival barkerin front of millions of people.

      • 47 ChristiMTL
        May 25, 2012 at 12:21 pm

        But that’s not the point amk…it is racism, he’s saying that PO is a fraud! He is a surrogate for the Romney campaign…imagine if it was the other way around? If a surrogate of the President would go on an on each time saying that Mormorism is a cult? (example), that Romney was a cult leader., what do you think would happen in the MSN?…..PO campaign would NEVER have surrogates of this type.

        • 48 57andfemale
          May 25, 2012 at 12:26 pm

          That is the perfect analogy.

        • 49 57andfemale
          May 25, 2012 at 12:29 pm

          Well, christi, I just tweeted your analogy. see what pushback I get.

        • 50 nathkatun7
          May 26, 2012 at 1:06 am

          You really make very good points, ChristiMTL! But you know, this is exactly what “white privilege” entails. If it weren’t for “white privilege,” Mitt’s Mormonism as a cult would have been a major issue, and Donald Trump’s blatant idiocy would have made him a laughing stock to be avoided by any one seeking the presidency.

      • 51 Cha
        May 25, 2012 at 5:07 pm

        Yeah, so quack shows how stupid he is by claiming PObama was born in Kenya…earning his idiot pic at another WHPCD. HA.

      • 52 smoothscotch
        May 25, 2012 at 8:49 pm

        kicked his ….right over that hairline.

    • May 25, 2012 at 12:20 pm

      This is the thing that is so infuriating – that MSM just lets Romney’s embrace of this cretin go by the wayside.

    • May 25, 2012 at 1:02 pm

      Time to put Romney’s campaign’s feet to the fire on this issue. They’ve openly embraced Trump and that means they openly embrace comments like this. Someone needs to ask Romney if he thinks Obama was born in Kenya.

    • 55 Cha
      May 25, 2012 at 5:04 pm

      I don’t know about that guy from “Colorado” but they sure put the guy from Arizona, Ken Bennett, in his place! Good point, Christy! The Quack thinks he’s invincible but just how far will his stupid take him before he’s crashes and burns? I gotta think he’s furious at PBO for showing his stupid dumbass pic at the WHCD. LOL.

    • 56 Obama Grandmama
      May 25, 2012 at 9:36 pm

      Trump and Romney = 2 of a kind compatriot liars

  16. 57 amk for obama
    May 25, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    RT like hell.

  17. 63 Ladyhawke
    May 25, 2012 at 12:16 pm


    Rachel Maddow pointed this out on her show last night. She was wondering why it wasn’t getting more attention.

    Romney Admits Budget Cuts Would Throw Economy Into ‘Recession Or Depression’


    HALPERIN: You have a plan, as you said, over a number of years, to reduce spending dramatically. Why not in the first year, if you’re elected — why not in 2013, go all the way and propose the kind of budget with spending restraints, that you’d like to see after four years in office? Why not do it more quickly?

    ROMNEY: Well because, if you take a trillion dollars for instance, out of the first year of the federal budget, that would shrink GDP over 5%. That is by definition throwing us into recession or depression. So I’m not going to do that, of course. What you do is you make adjustments on a basis that show, in the first year, actions that over time get you to a balanced budget.

    This, of course, is the point that progressives have been making in response to the House Republican budget, which Romney supports.



  18. 64 auni
    May 25, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    From the pictures yesterday in Iowa there was a little boy sitting on his dad’s shoulders. The President and everyone around him was looking at the little guy and smiling. He looks like he is doing a chant or something. Anyone know?

    • 65 globalcitizenlinda
      May 25, 2012 at 8:19 pm

      I wondered the same about this boy. he had some kind of hat (toupe) on and was pumping his fists

  19. 66 Tally
    May 25, 2012 at 12:34 pm


    • 67 57andfemale
      May 25, 2012 at 12:52 pm

      Morning, girl friend!

      • 68 HZ
        May 25, 2012 at 1:08 pm

        Tally, good morning. I have not told you how lovely and smack in the face beautiful you are. I know that we all will meet up somewhere and sometime soon. I love seeing you my dear beautiful lady.(((((( Hugs to you always)))))))) HZ

    • 69 0388jojothecat
      May 25, 2012 at 2:09 pm

      Bonjour mademoiselle Tally…Have a wonderful holiday weekend! That goes for everyone else too!

  20. May 25, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    • 71 ChristiMTL
      May 25, 2012 at 12:38 pm

      Isn’t it the truth

    • May 25, 2012 at 1:04 pm

      Top headline on their shit site right now: Obama stumbles out of the gate

      heh and people continue to take politico seriously. 😦

      • 74 anniebella
        May 25, 2012 at 1:17 pm

        Drunken Irishman,do you remember when POTUS was giving his speech yesterday, and he mention that one day after dinner he and Michelle were talking, and Michelle were saying that if you listen to the pundits and folks on tv, you would think that were doom and gloom, but when you get out there among the people you see that it’s different than what you see and heard from the know it all pundits and cable chat. Now I use my words, not the exact words POTUS used, but you get what FLOTUS was saying. You can’t believe everything you see or read on tv, or in print. You have to understand the agenda these people are pushing.

        • 75 Cha
          May 25, 2012 at 5:14 pm

          It’s an Indictment of our US media..they’re traitorous whore$$$$$$.

          A big part of Winning for our Country would be to put these fascistshites outta business. Twitter seems to be their worst enemy right now..and, of course,, the internet has been invaluable for Democracy.

        • 76 nathkatun7
          May 26, 2012 at 1:12 am

          Absolutely true!

  21. 77 anniebella
    May 25, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    The interview the First Lady did with People Magazine, when does that come out? I want to read the entire article.

  22. 85 whatisworking
    May 25, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    Good Morning TOD family

    The pictures of Iowa were SO GREAT. He is coming out swinging and we will do all we can to help.

    Here is some encouraging news for Wisconsin

    90,000 Absentee Ballots Already Issued In Wisconsin Recall


  23. 86 whatisworking
    May 25, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    Limbaugh Sees Ratings Dip Following Attacks On Sandra Fluke


  24. 89 whatisworking
    May 25, 2012 at 1:06 pm

    Poll-itics: New polls show Pres. Obama beating Mitt Romney in key swing state of Wisconsin + 3 others


  25. 91 whatisworking
    May 25, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    Ron Barber Says He Will Support Obama In The Fall Reported


    • 92 Cha
      May 25, 2012 at 5:31 pm

      You’re just a wealth of information, Linda, Thank YOU!

      That’s big of Ron Barber to support President Obama since Mike Kelly is out there asking for donations for him and PObama supported Gabby sooo much! He says he doesn’t agree with the President on everything and I imagine PBO doesn’t agree with him on everything, either.

  26. 93 whatisworking
    May 25, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    America’s immigration system has caused ‘self-inflicted economic wounds,’ new report says


    • 96 Bill R.
      May 25, 2012 at 6:33 pm

      Six points in Ohio is more than a “narrow” lead. PPP had seven. Four pt. lead in VA and Fl.

  27. 97 57andfemale
    May 25, 2012 at 1:12 pm

  28. 98 whatisworking
    May 25, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    Sen. Whitehouse: ‘Yep, I Do’ Think Filibuster Reform Is Going To Happen


  29. 99 whatisworking
    May 25, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    Glad to see this show up on the CBS website

    Obama: Romney delivers a “cow pie of distortion”


  30. 101 57andfemale
    May 25, 2012 at 1:28 pm

  31. 103 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
    May 25, 2012 at 1:36 pm

    Don’t miss Deaniac’s latest outstanding essay on the economic facts and accomplishments of the Obama Administration ….

    If you check my TL on Twitter you’ll see that I’ll be sharing the article with a variety of folk for a variety of reasons that I’m sure you’ll discern by whom they’re addressed 🙂

    Yes We Can … DO More Together

  32. 106 57andfemale
    May 25, 2012 at 1:43 pm

    “Republicans can avoid “gutting” the military simply by agreeing to pay for the military, not by slashing all other domestic programs to the bone as Republicans in the House and Senate have voted repeatedly to do, but by raising taxes on the wealthy.

    So what it really comes down to is whether Republicans are more committed to national defense or to Grover Norquist.”

    • May 25, 2012 at 1:51 pm

      I just got back and read your reply on the last thread. Yes, that is indeed the school that recruited Isiah Thomas who went on to be quite the pro basketball player and coach. They’ve been trying to recruit that caliber player every since. They are ruthless in going into the inner city to scout kids in 5th through 8th grade for basketball. I knew many who went to that school because my school district played them in sports, somewhat a rivalry. My #2 had friends who went there as well.

      • 108 57andfemale
        May 25, 2012 at 2:05 pm

        Thanks for fleshing out the story for me. I knew they were aggressive, but ‘ruthless’ is probably the more accurate term.

        That further proves my point: you have bankrupted your school in pursuit of one great ballplayer, and shafted everyone else. Including the inner city children that you claim to ‘help’. Help the math student. Help the inner city kid who wants to play the clarinet, write a play, be a scientist.

        We are bankrupting our entire educational system over this hero worship. A Catholic school that puts its resources into this and this only is pathetic.

        That band teacher who was fired — do you know how expensive it is for a kid to study music his entire life, go to college and try to become a good teacher? I’m not saying there aren’t scholarships for talented musicians, but that same kid is also going to pull a 3.5 grade point average and work his butt off in class because no one is telling him he’s ‘entitled’ to be a star. All this young man wants is a job in order to pay forward what he has learned and what he loves.

        It’s disgraceful.

        It’s not that I loathe the idea of sports — I get it, I really do. I loathe the blood and treasure that is poured into sports in this country that robs the rest of society of vital resources.

        My friend’s kid got a fair education. She has learning disabilities but she is very intelligent. She was lucky to find one nun who helped her pass math and kept her focused. In the grand scheme of things, she will give a whole lot more back to society than these illiterate ball players. And to think that the school is in debt due to these ‘scholarships’ is appalling.

        School has been fairly miserable for her — she fights for arts programs, school plays, etc. and can’t get any support. There is no interest from the administration, even though she’s eager and willing to do the work herself. A disgrace.

        She is my little budding liberal, however, much to her father’s horror. But liberal she is. Melissa Harris-Perry had these young feminists on last Sunday and I’ve passed along the blog information to this kid. She was grateful to find like-minded teen-agers so I was happy to give her that information.

        • May 25, 2012 at 2:14 pm

          Your friend’s daughter sounds like the good things that are happening with our youth. The ones who recognize the what’s going on around them, and are making their voices heard. She’s a 90’s baby? Well, how about a “90’s Babies for Obama” T-shirt. My daughter designed t-shirts for the 2012 campaign as a fund raiser, after hearing from some of her peers that they aren’t as into the campaign this time. these same folks were very enthusiastic in ’08. She’s trying to recapture that spirit. Portions of the proceeds will go to PBO’s campaign. http://www.zenfulrevolutionapparel.com/ Check out the site.

          • 110 57andfemale
            May 25, 2012 at 3:19 pm

            The tee shirt is a great idea! She turns 18 in August and will vote this year.

            She’s a good kid but its time she learned how to do laundry, clean the house and help make dinner. She’s full of great ideas but short on practicalities.

        • May 25, 2012 at 2:31 pm

          PS: The movie, “Hoop Dreams” was made after that school. It follows the journey of 3 inner city students recruited to attend St. Joseph. to your point, it didn’t necessarily prove to be that beneficial to them after high school. Here’s a read on the story. http://popcultureandamericanchildhood.com/tag/hoop-dreams/

  33. May 25, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    Microsoft to buy NBC universal stake in, wait for it…, MSNBC.
    I am sure the Regulators will not allow that to got through, for Monopoly purposes.

    • 114 Linda
      May 25, 2012 at 1:50 pm

      Where did you get that , because Reuters is reporting that NBC is to buy MSNBC.com – the website.

      (Reuters) – NBCUniversal is in talks to buy out Microsoft Corp’s 50 percent stake in joint venture MSNBC.com, media reports said.

      NBCU parent Comcast Corp is conducting due diligence and the partnership with NBC News could be unwound by this summer, said Adweek, which first reported the talks.

      “Discussions are taking place,” Amy Lynn, director of communications at NBC News, told the Wall Street Journal.

      The companies are likely to negotiate a deal ensuring that MSNBC.com secures real estate on MSN.com, similar to the treatment Fox Sports receives, Adweek said.

      NBC and Microsoft joined forces in 1996 to create a cable news channel and online news operation that melded broadcasting with then-emerging internet technology.

      MSNBC and MSNBC.com are now separate operations, and Microsoft no longer has a stake in the cable channel.

  34. 116 Bill
    May 25, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    Mrs Greenspan is obsessed with the “cow pie” comment by PBO. She is bringing it up with about every guest. She reminds me of a five year old giggling about a scatological word they think is off limits.

  35. May 25, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    Cow pie….mmmmm – Homer Simpson

  36. 119 Debz
    May 25, 2012 at 2:06 pm

    Any one know where i can find the video of POTUS’ campaign event in Iowa last night?? I can find every bloody campaign event and speech fro Willard but not the President.

  37. 121 Linda
    May 25, 2012 at 2:09 pm

    “omg …he made it worse.

    Birther Congressman Admits That He Only Walked Back His Comments ‘For Political Reasons’


  38. 122 Linda
    May 25, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    Meet Maureen Russo: An Eligible Florida Voter Governor Rick Scott Just Purged From The Voting Rolls


  39. May 25, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    Tamron Hall on the case again. She’s trying to keep her composure on the birther issue with Chip Saltsman , Republican strategist, who is trying to justify why it’s ok for Mitt to share a stage with the Chump for fundraising.

  40. 124 Grab a Mop Grace
    May 25, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    Just read the lovely article in People about FLOTUS.
    She’s adorable. I wish she was my next door neighbor.

    If you have a chance to give it a glance, look at the photo of her on page 98.
    She’s just stunning. I swear she could pass for 25 in this photo.

    So many cute little tid-bits…she talks about POTUS liking to sing in the shower (oh my), their philosophy on guiding their girls toward things that they love, not just away from things that they’re afraid of. When asked what sports she’s not good at, she mentions swimming. She said that one of her goals is “I don’t want to caught dead in a bathing suit”. hahaha Sounds like something I’d say.
    They have a book excerpt and a yummy favorite recipe of hers too.

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 125 Grab a Mop Grace
      May 25, 2012 at 2:42 pm

      ****”I don’t want to BE caught dead in a bathing suit”*****

      • 126 anniebella
        May 25, 2012 at 2:51 pm

        FLOTUS isn’t the only one who feel that way about bathing suits, I do myself. But I am waiting for the magazine to come out. I read some of the People interview at Huff Puff, and I can’t stand Huff Puff. Against my better judgement I read afew of the comments and they were nasty as usual. But I left a comment their praising our lovely First Lady. Saying the she is simply the best.

        • 127 itgurl_29
          May 25, 2012 at 3:16 pm

          Quit giving Arianna hits. Everytime you go to Huff and Puff, you put more money in her pocket to provide a space that attacks the President and his family.

        • 128 0388jojothecat
          May 25, 2012 at 3:24 pm

          FLOTUS has a wonderful body and I bet she would look lovely in a one piece bathing suit, a surang around her hips, just lovely.

        • 129 Lovepolitics2008
          May 25, 2012 at 3:35 pm

          Nasty comments about Michelle Obama = republican trolls and/or operatives. There is no way that even “emoprogs” would say something nasty about her.

          • 130 anniebella
            May 25, 2012 at 3:53 pm

            Thank you, no more Huff and Puff for me. If anyone suggest I have to go there to read an article, then I will not read that article.

            • 131 anniebella
              May 25, 2012 at 3:55 pm

              The only reason I was there today was I was trying to find something about the People Magazine interview FLOTUS did.

    • 132 CEB
      May 25, 2012 at 4:02 pm

      I went looking for this today. Is FLOTUS on the cover or someone else?

      • 133 Grab a Mop Grace
        May 25, 2012 at 5:02 pm

        The main photo on the People cover is a family picture of the Mary Kennedy family. Very sad.
        FLOTUS is pictured on the lower right side.

  41. 134 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
    May 25, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    Be prepared if you read the report about VP Biden and what he shared … very moving …


    • 135 Linda
      May 25, 2012 at 2:52 pm

      oh ..that gave me chills….

      • May 25, 2012 at 3:01 pm

        I just printed that and am taking to our grief support dinner tonight. Sure brought back lots of memories when we lost our grandson and I know my daughter must have had those feelings. Like VP Joe, she had another child to help keep her going. We all had wonderful support and many prayers.

      • 137 0388jojothecat
        May 25, 2012 at 3:29 pm

        Brought tears to my eyes….to lose a his young wife and daughter, not knowing if his boys would survive must have felt like he plunged into hell. He had just become one of the youngest senators and a whole new life. I believe this tragedy helped shape his time in the senate to help people and not corporations. Joe Biden is probably the only non-millionaires in the whole Senate.

  42. May 25, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    Walker and Barrett have a debate tonight at 9 on cspan! Should be interesting…
    First of all, if Walker was going to blowout Barrett, which is what Mike Allen said yesterday, he would not have agreed to a debate, 2 weeks from the election.
    More likely, he has a very small lead, and Barrett is gaining.
    Yup yup!

  43. May 25, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    I have a question for anyone who can answer. EVERY time Mike Papatonio fills in for Ed, he goes on and on about Eric Holder……how awful he is at his job……how he along could cause PO to lose the election (Stupid statement)……reads tweets and emails agreeing with him. All of them are in agreement that the criminals on Wall Street would be at least a mile long and that Eric Holder is doing NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING to those people. My question: Was one provable law broken? Is there something that EH could arrest and prosecute for? HELP!

    • May 25, 2012 at 3:07 pm

      ….how he alone, not along.

    • 141 Linda
      May 25, 2012 at 3:15 pm

      Papatonio is a raving maniac…. President Obama has said that it appears no laws have been broken.

      ( I hope he is not going to be doing the Ed Show tonight )

      • 142 0388jojothecat
        May 25, 2012 at 3:35 pm

        The Republicans made sure what Wall Street did was legal. Phil Grahm and his wall street wife made sure of that in 2000 while Bill Clinton was leaving office, he signed the bill that gutted Glass Segal.

    • 144 Bill
      May 25, 2012 at 3:24 pm

      Papantonio is also the President of a trial lawyers association. Sometimes his agenda is difficult to determine, but possibly his position as a trial lawyer reflects on his opinion of the Department of Justice.

      • May 25, 2012 at 3:32 pm

        Based on things I’ve heard him say, that is a good point, Bill. I didn’t know he was President of the TLA. He supports PO and goes on and on about how he MUST be re-elected and how we all have to work to make that happen. It’s just this one area (Wall St.) that he ALWAYS pounds away at–both PO and EH. Linda, what you said has been my understanding as well.

      • 146 57andfemale
        May 25, 2012 at 3:46 pm

        That’s not his problem. he is one of the looney left that thinks PBO should put on his Superman shirt and stomp his feet and everything will instantly be solved.

        He plays fast and loose with facts. He’ll say it’s PBO’s fault that Gitmo isn’t closed. He cannot possibly be that stupid, except to spread GG and FDL lies and hate.

  44. 147 Linda
    May 25, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    WASHINGTON — The Senate Ethics committee has admonished Republican Sen. Tom Coburn over his involvement with a staffer to former Sen. John Ensign.

    In a letter released Friday, the six-member panel said Coburn’s communications and actions with Doug Hampton were improper conduct and warranted a public letter of qualified admonition. The committee said contact between the two violated the Senate rule barring contact on legislative matters within the first year of a staffer’s departure.

    The panel said the letter closes the matter.

    Ensign was having an affair with Hampton’s wife. In 2008, Hampton received a $96,000 gift from Ensign’s parents, and an earlier Ethics Committee report cast Coburn as participating in subsequent, unsuccessful negotiations in May 2009 over a far larger amount.

  45. 148 Liberal Librarian
    May 25, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Just had the loveliest Twitter exchange with an anti-union leftist. His experience with unions in Guatemala has been quite awful. We were able to discuss respectfully — even though it was tense at first — and come to understand each other.

    • 149 57andfemale
      May 25, 2012 at 3:50 pm

      If you want to lose sleep for a month, watch Rachel’s segment from last night on unions/WI and why the recall is so important. The only unions of any power anymore are public unions. Without the institutional financial support of unions, Democrats cannot compete with corporate money. That would have been true even before CU.

      Now her hyperbole was really strong. I cannot believe it is that simple or even that dire, but she was making a very important point. It will give you nightmares.

      • 150 Liberal Librarian
        May 25, 2012 at 3:51 pm

        I know, I’m in a public union. Mine is making a strong push for November.

        • 151 57andfemale
          May 25, 2012 at 4:10 pm

          I truly understand that not all unions are perfect. My husband will often point out the abuse of unions. Hey, I live in Chicago for God’s sake. The librarians’ union gets shafted all the time (several of my very close friends are librarians — I gravitate toward them), while Streets and Sanitation union is a total farce and a ripoff.

          But as I say to my husband, even with the most abuses a union can muster, we are better off with unions than without them. We would have nothing without them. Corporations will NOT take care of their workers, safety, safety of their products or the environment without unions and governmental regulation.

      • 152 Betsy
        May 25, 2012 at 5:12 pm

        I KNOW! I had trouble sleeping myself.

    • 153 Bill
      May 25, 2012 at 3:56 pm

      LL, I have done work with unions in Guatemala and Mexico. The experirnce is very complicated and awful. To summarize, their priorities are not the union members.

      • 154 Liberal Librarian
        May 25, 2012 at 3:59 pm

        Which is exactly what he was saying. There’s a reform movement, but the bosses play for keeps.

        • 155 Bill
          May 25, 2012 at 4:10 pm

          It is brutal. Bribery is rampant between company managenent, union leaders, and government. There are union leaders that are millionaires

  46. 156 ChristiMTL
    May 25, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    I know why I don’t watch MSNBC on during the day…..one hour that’s it, Martin Bashir.

    I was still angry at the fact that a Romney surrogate can be a knowed racist and birther……..and he’s taking a bigger role now with ”Dinner with Trump and Romney” and his fundraiser in Vegas.

    It’s only the continuity of the way President Obama has been treated from the start in MSM…no respect…..racism is accepted…..it’s not racism KKK and the n word……the ugly veiled racism.

    Why should the Romney campaign distance itself from Trump?…There no reason, it has its purpose, it’s catnip for their racist base who still think he was born in Kenya, a Muslim…not a legitimated elected President….a criminal really, the biggest fraud there is.

    They have absolutely no reason to distance themselves because the MSM doesn’t seem to have a problem with Trump’s racism.

    He has a show on NBC
    He is regularly invited on Fox (duh) CNN, ABC etc

    For example today he was co-hosting the View….

    I read a comment in some blog that says it all really:

    ”As much as I “can’t stand the view”, today was the first time I watched and had a real feeling of nausea the entire show. There was SO much Trump butt kissing. ”

    ”I lost some respect for Joy and Whoopi for essentially whoring themselves to The View today, playing along and laughing off Trump’s birther nonsense”

    So it’s all a big joke…it’s funny haha…it’s only Trump right? the buffoon…..they never take in consideration what it does to the racists out there, how much it feeds their hatred of the President.

    Same as Arsenio Hall who decried racism the other day on some show but was on Celebrity Apprentice.

    It’s such a disgrace, I have to let go of that because it’s nauseating.

    • 157 anniebella
      May 25, 2012 at 4:02 pm

      I am shock at Whoopi, and Joy too. I guess Barbara told them to behave themselves. But I am so glad I did not see the View today. I will only watch it Tuesday because the First Lady suppose to be up there.

  47. 160 57andfemale
    May 25, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    “Mitt Romney doesn’t want to be president of the United States, he wants to be CEO of the United Corporations of America. “

  48. 162 57andfemale
    May 25, 2012 at 3:57 pm

  49. 163 LOL
    May 25, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    HEY CHIPS….If you can do your magic, here is the CSPAN broadcast of VP Biden..starts around 8:30


    • 164 Diane
      May 25, 2012 at 7:01 pm

      Jusr finished watching this speech. It was the most moving and deeply honest speech I have ever heard the VP give. WOW!

  50. 165 Liberal Librarian
    May 25, 2012 at 4:01 pm

  51. 167 CEB
    May 25, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    Check out West Wing week on the White House site if you do not want to wait until it is posted here. The end has something cute related to PBO and tweeting.

  52. 173 57andfemale
    May 25, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    Oh, God. Amy Goodman on Chris Hayes tomorrow. So we can be lectured on PBO’s failures. I’ll skip it, thanks.

    Here’s my thing about many decent people on the left: they could be part of the conversation, part of the solution, if they understood that coalitions work, they take time to become effective, and progress should be more important than petty personal validation. If they deliver votes reliably, they will actually get what they say they want.

    You have to wonder if they even want actual progress. They have carved out this place to scream for pleasure. They remind me of a 9-month baby who loves the sound of their screaming voice. They have no practical solutions on how to achieve their goals. It’s truly astonishing to me.

    • 174 Linda
      May 25, 2012 at 4:19 pm

      I gave up on him and MHP after just a couple watches.

      • 175 57andfemale
        May 25, 2012 at 4:22 pm

        And yet last week the TV was on and MHP had three girls, 17, 18 and 19 respectively, who were feminists for their generation. I was so glad I saw the segment. I passed along the website of the oldest girl, who has written a book on taking back feminism for a new generation. So I’ll peek every once in awhile. But Amy Goodman, who has great intentions, is one of the dangerous, looney left and I won’t watch.

      • 176 ChristiMTL
        May 25, 2012 at 4:22 pm

        Me too, Chris Hayes is a libertarian….he’s often quoted on Glenn Greenwald TL on Twitter…he was never a supporter of the President. The only few times I watched it show, they were talking about drones….watch for 2 minutes that is.

        MHP is the biggest disappointment. It’s like a complete turn around…..I was so wrong about her

        • 177 Linda
          May 25, 2012 at 4:31 pm

          Did you know his wife is a lawyer at the White House…or at least she was….I don’t know if she went back after they had their baby.

          • 178 ChristiMTL
            May 25, 2012 at 4:37 pm

            Yes I heard about that Linda…….

            I can’t watch his show…..the only thing I noticed when it’s on is how much pushback he gets on Twitter,..

    • 179 EricFive
      May 25, 2012 at 4:33 pm

      Perhaps the problem is that these shows only book “progressives” that are critical of PBO. They pre-screen their guests to find out what they will be saying during the show (all talk shows do this). These attention hungry “progressives” realize this and as a result they work to supply the MSM with the anti-Obama content it desires. One hand washes the other. Gotta love show business.

  53. 180 Linda
    May 25, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    Rep. Jim McDermott (D-WA) will soon introduce legislation that would allow states to use federal funds they’re receiving through Medicare, Medicaid, and other health care programs to build a universal single-payer system. Advocates are describing the bill as a “lifeline” for advocates:

    It would create a mechanism for states to request federal funds after establishing their own health insurance programs…. It would, for the first time, create a system under which a Medicare-for-all program could be rolled out on a state-by-state basis. In California’s case, it would make coverage available to the roughly 7 million people now lacking health insurance.

    “This is a huge deal,” said Jamie Court, president of Consumer Watchdog, a Santa Monica advocacy group. “This is a lifeline for people who want to create a Medicare system at the state level.”


    We MUST win back the House….!!!!!!!!!!!

  54. May 25, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    The Trump case study
    By Steve Benen – Fri May 25, 2012 1:45 PM EDT.

    As a rule, I tend to ignore the political opinions of reality-show personality Donald Trump, but there is a certain electoral salience that underscores nonsense like this.

    “A book publisher came out three days ago and said that in his written synopsis of his book,” Trump went on, “he said he was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia. His mother never spent a day in the hospital.”

    Actually, Obama’s literary agency at the time, two decades ago, published a recently discovered catalogue of clients and their projects that included erroneous information about Obama and a prospective book about race that he ended up not writing. An agency assistant back then, Miriam Goderich, said last week that she was mistaken when she wrote that Obama was born in Kenya.

    But Trump isn’t buying it. “That’s what he told the literary agent,” Trump insisted. “That’s the way life works…. He didn’t know he was running for president, so he told the truth. The literary agent wrote down what he said…. He said he was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia…. Now they’re saying it was a mistake…. Give me a break.”

    I suspect most fair-minded people would consider Trump’s comments idiotic. So, why should anyone care? Because Trump is an official surrogate and fundraiser for Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign. During the Republican primaries, Romney even had Trump record robocalls for his campaign, and next week, the two will appear together in Las Vegas.

    As Greg Sargent noted today, when Hilary Rosen noted Ann Romney may not be qualified to serve as her husband’s economic advisor, it was national news for weeks, despite the fact that Rosen (a) was correct, (b) had no formal role whatsoever in President Obama’s campaign; and (c) was immediately denounced by high-profile members of the Obama team.

    And yet, here’s Trump, spewing obvious garbage, which won’t diminish his role on Team Romney and won’t stop the Republican candidate from fundraising with Trump.

    The playing field isn’t even.


    • 182 nathkatun7
      May 26, 2012 at 1:43 am

      In my humble opinion, there is a simple answer to all this: both Trump and Romney enjoy white male privilege!

  55. 183 Linda
    May 25, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    Good Grief…

    Hardball just quoted a poll from ” Reason/Rube ” that Walker is 8 points ahead in Wisconsin

    ” Reason ” is owned by David Koch.

  56. May 25, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    I know POTUS and FLOTUS are gracious but I’m going to have to hold my nose:

  57. May 25, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    Fallows on a very important distinction for PBO’s vote against the confirmation of Roberts for the Supreme Court:

    Obama and Roberts: The View From 2005


  58. 189 lisalovesobama
    May 25, 2012 at 6:04 pm


  59. 192 whatisworking
    May 25, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    Good piece in the NYT

    Campaign Styles Clash in Wis. Recall Race


    • 193 Cha
      May 25, 2012 at 11:09 pm

      That’s brilliant, Linda! Soooo Encouraging.. Thank you!

      “Meanwhile, underdog Barrett spends precious campaign time mingling with the masses and making the rounds of farmers markets, coffee shops and parades in search of votes. His campaign publicizes events with the hope of attracting as many people as possible.

      The tactics reflect two well-established political strategies and signal the state of the race with less than two weeks to go. Walker holds a slim lead, according to recent polls, built with the financial support of conservatives nationwide who rallied after labor unions helped organize the recall over his anti-union legislation. Walker wants to minimize risks and avoid protesters. Barrett, who won the Democratic nomination to oppose Walker only this month, hopes to strike a spark.

      Walker’s advisers “want him in a sealed-off, tightly controlled, non-controversial setting because they don’t want to rile people up,” said Democratic pollster Paul Maslin, a veteran of recall campaigns who worked for California Gov. Gray Davis when he fought unsuccessfully against a recall in 2003. “He can’t do retail any more. Like it or not, he’s graduated to another level of politics. He just became the symbol of a much bigger fight.”

      Barrett calls Walker’s campaign style.. “in Bunker Mentality”..remind you of some puppeteer in the bush admin?

  60. 194 lamh35
    May 25, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    Not gonna link to it, but there is a story on the newser.com website on the John Edwards trial and it’s alledging that Edwards and an “alternate juror” have been “flirting” in the courtroom during the trial. I know, I know, this is just salacious gossip, but man if true then the ew vibe I always had about John Edwards was soo right. I liked some of the things he said, but I just got this eww feeling about ole dude from jump street. It’s the same oogly feeling I get for R-Money.

    Blah. Liz Edwards did aid and abet her hubby’s lying during the campaign, but damn RIP to her, at least she no longer has to deal with this clown.

    • 196 Jessica
      May 25, 2012 at 6:38 pm

      They actually have a photo of her in her bathing suit. Poor thing nothing sacred. The pboto is from Dec 2008, Hawaii.

      • 197 0388jojothecat
        May 25, 2012 at 7:02 pm

        That’s what I look like in a bathing suit. Once you grow into a womans’ body some women have a tendacy to get heavier thighs no matter how much you work out.

        • May 25, 2012 at 7:15 pm

          Actually, what I liked about the article was the fact that he tucks her in at night. I think that’s adorable. My mind went crazy when I read that headline.

          • 199 anniebella
            May 25, 2012 at 8:48 pm

            joyfulmeme, I’m with you. The media have been constantly talking about First Lady want to be Beyonce. But I come away with seeing what two busy people do to keep their romance alive. If you want a marriage to work, you have to work to keep it alive. God bless our First Couple and first family.

  61. May 25, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    Merkel still bring stubborn about Austerity. To the point where I think she wants the Euro to fail, and then Germany takes over Europe.
    I can think of nothing else, she is being illogical.
    Stubborn tea bagger.

  62. May 25, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    Barrette needs to hit Walker hard at tonights debate. This debate means 2-3 points in the polls, so close to the Election.

  63. May 25, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    Vice President Biden, speaking Friday to families and friends of military personnel killed in action, gave a powerful retelling of the death of his wife and daughter 40 years ago — saying he’d realized then how grief might push a person to suicide.

    “For the first time in my life, I understood how someone could consciously decide to commit suicide,” Biden told a meeting of the Tragedy Assistance Program for Survivors at a hotel in Crystal City. The group offers counseling to relatives and friends of military personnel who have died. It was holding its 18th annual military survivor seminar.

    “Not because they were deranged, not because they were nuts,” Biden continued, according to a transcript. “Because they’d been to the top of the mountain, and they just knew in their heart they’d never get there again, that it was never going to get — never going to be that way ever again. That’s how an awful lot of you feel.”


    • 203 Diane
      May 25, 2012 at 7:08 pm

      This was the most moving speech I have ever heqard the VP give. A wonderful tribute to the power of love to overcome grief!

  64. May 25, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    Watching The Ed show with the guy that was charged with rape! He spent five years in jail and was exonerated today. But why isn’t the girl charged with false testimony (or pulling a Mitt Romney – LYING)!.

  65. 205 57andfemale
    May 25, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    From PBO’s speech yesterday:

    “And the problem with our economy isn’t that the American people aren’t productive enough—you’re working harder than ever. Productivity is through the roof. It’s been going up consistently over the last decade. The challenge we face right now—the challenge we’ve faced for over a
    decade—is that harder work hasn’t led to higher incomes. Bigger profits haven’t led to better jobs. And you can’t solve that problem if you can’t even see that it’s a problem. (Applause.)”

    Can I repeat this?

    “the challenge we’ve faced for over a decade—is that harder work hasn’t led to higher incomes. Bigger profits haven’t led to better jobs.”

    I love my President.

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