(after which we all need to get back to the work of re-electing President Barack Obama!! You know, “Band of Brothers” “Keeping our Eyes on the Prize” and all that…)
See you there!! I’ll be exhausted, but I’ll be there.. These have been a LONG few days. I’ve been battling for services for my son, and battling this CRA – CRA – CRAZY plan to dismantle public schools. I testified at City Council today. UGGGGHHH. People gotta WAKE UP!!!
I agree. I think some folks on Twitter were mad at Barney Frank for making some comments that she didn’t correct him on, but her statements in the segment above were spot on.
Rachel spent waaay too much time talking about GW before she got to praising President Obama. I don’t understand why she has to talk so dayum much to reach her point. She loses me. I liked Ellen’s statement much better and felt it came from her heart.
in my teenage years, even before I knew anything about anything, I knew this song and this man was a gift. Sylvester was just so comfortable with who he was, WAY before most people were comfortable with who he was. And HE COULD SANG!!!! Yes, I said SANG!! 😆 😆
It’s strange Hopefruit, I don’t know what happened tonight. The WH site was meant to show it, but never actually listed it on its schedule today, and both CNN and CBS’s live streaming sites advertised it, but didn’t show it either. ????
PBS will air it on Monday, May 21st at 9:00 PM ET.
I’m wondering if after last month (Red White and Blues, with PBO and Mick Jagger singing) when the performance was all over youtube before it aired on PBS. Perhaps PBS decided that they didn’t want a repeat of that.
I recall PBO saying that her knowledge of Stevie Wonder’s music is epic. He said it was almost like if you didn’t like Stevie Wonder, she was pretty much through with you… 🙂
I actually watched Rachel tonight, anticipating her take on today’s events. My God, Cory Booker was awesome! Both in the speech clip and in his sit-down with Rachel.
I watched the segment LIVE. I commend her for giving Pres. Obama the credit he deserves and for highlighting that even with/without him coming out for same sex marriage he has been lockstep with the LGBT community, has an impressive record of LGBT accomplishments, and has greatly advanced LGBT causes, benefits, and rights.
But 6 out of 8 minutes on shrub and that sunbabitch raygun and just 2 minutes what Obama has done amazing things on LGBT issues, especially given her past tantrums ? She could have done better, imo.
That was just the 8 minutes I was able to record amk, have a look at the full show when it’s on the MSNBC site. I loved that she built up to PBO’s gay rights record by highlighting the horror of went before, Shrub etc. Made it all the more powerful for me.
Thank you. I’m so fucking tired of the assholes around here who can’t concede for one moment that President Obama has ever done anything right. I had a front row seat during the AIDS epidemic, when the American President couldn’t be bothered to pretend that he gave a shit that literally thousands of Americans were dying, because they were gay. I watched every human being I loved curl up to die like stray cats in some alley, while the American President (and most of the American people)looked the other way. To everybody out there who can’t pass up the opportunity to shit all over anything remotely good, I have a message for you from a few hundred dead gay activists who spent the last breaths in their bodies fighting for the right to be treated like human beings in this country: Go fuck yourself. This matters, and those of us who get it are happy, and if you can’t be happy for our sake, that says more about you than it does this President or this moment.
I am a 52 year old Gay man. The Reverend is preaching the truth. Those of us old enough to come of age during the rise of HIV/Aids concomitant with Reagan and the Christian Right (Moral Majority) well remember the horrors of that era. Hatred and Homophobia and Hysteria ruled our lives. While our friends literally shriveled up and died? Seriously Gay Marriage debate 25 years ago? LOL. An fucking ABSURD concept that would never happen! Not in our life times (for those of us still around to grow old). What President Obama has done for the Gay/Lesbian community is simply amazing. A president publicly endorsing Gay Marriage versus some Senile has been actor who refused to even acknowledge or say the word AIDS or HIV. It’s a no brainer kids. Obama wins.
I dunno Chips, you might need to add the video of her segment with Future President-Elect Cory Booker.
He is just one vessel of awesome sauce. I l love how he frames this whole debate in terms of equal rights/equal protection under the law for all citizens. Simple. Elegant.
Hi Chips! It was a good segment ..but there were times in the past when Rachel trashed this President for not expressing his personal view on marriage equality in a timely manner. So it was difficult for me to feel completely warm and fuzzy about what she said about him tonight. But! I am so proud of our President and I encourage everyone to donate if you can, he will need it. The crazy conservative christians will be attacking him from all sides…
Hi SueBee, my head exploded at the time of the NY vote when she made her snarky and dishonest comments about PBO’s position, so I’ll never be a Maddow devotee. But to be honest, I expected her to be cynical tonight, in the end I thought she was completely fair. So I give her credit for that.
WASHINGTON (AP) – Russian President Vladimir Putin is skipping a planned visit to the United States this month for an economic summit and a much-anticipated meeting with President Barack Obama, the White House announced Wednesday.
The Russian leader told Obama by phone that he is unable to join the other leaders of the Group of Eight industrial nations meeting outside Washington on May 18-19 because he needs to finish work setting up his new Cabinet, the White House said. The Obama administration had moved the gathering to the Camp David presidential retreat in Maryland from the planned venue in Chicago partly to accommodate Putin.
Neither the White House nor the Kremlin had discussed the change in plans until Wednesday, but a White House official said National Security Adviser Tom Donilon was informed of it when he visited Putin and other Russian officials in Moscow last week.
There was no immediate confirmation of the change in plans from the Kremlin.
Putin took power this week, returning after six years to a post he had previously held for two terms. He made sharp criticism of the United States a central theme in his election, but it is not clear whether he will pull back from cooperation with the United States in several areas begun by former President Dmitry Medvedev.
“The two presidents reiterated their interest in the sustained high-level dialogue that has characterized the reset of relations and the substantial progress of the last three years,” since Obama took office, the White House said in a statement outlining the phone call Wednesday…
The statement listed several areas of cooperation such as nuclear security and nonproliferation, the war in Afghanistan and Russian membership in the World Trade Organization. It did not mention whether the leaders discussed areas of disagreement, such as the international response to violence in Syria.
Medvedev, who changed places with his mentor Putin as Russia’s prime minister, will fill in for Putin at the G-8 meeting, the White House said. Obama made headlines at his last meeting with Medvedev at a nuclear security summit in South Korea in March, when Obama was overheard saying he would have more flexibility to work with Russia on missile defense after the U.S. presidential election.
Republicans pounced on the remark, saying the president has a hidden agenda that could include concessions to the Russians if he wins re-election… (more in the article)
I’m not convinced that this isn’t a planned cancellation. After the nonsense that ensued after the open mic incident, the summit would have been overshadowed by media speculation of every blink and sneeze. Better for their first meeting to happen later – preferably after the election.
I commend Rachel for finally saying what has already been known, that the Obama administration has been the most progressive and supporter of LGBT issues by their action and not just fake rhetoric ala Clinton.
But I did have to roll my eyes when she said she “personally” doesn’t care what words a pol says she personally believe in action…oh really Rachel, so all these years, all the BS she did before and after the DADT vote that POTUS doesn’t really believe in marriage equality even though his record had been and would be even more stellar…now she says hey words don’t matter? Whatever.
Another thing, like other people on twitter her segment with Barney Frank where Barney Frank made the same debunked claims about AA being at fault for Prop 8 and NC A1 pissed me off and sours the whole segment for me. Rachel has called out GOP for less when she interviews them, but she did nothing to challenge Barney Frank’s statement.
Right now after POTUS annoucement liberal such as Maddow and other LGBT activist needs to be really careful about blaming the passage of these amendment on AA when there is no clear evidence that it is true. They need to push back even on people they respect in the Dem leadership.
I just heard PBO’s old classmateon LOD say talk about howPBO was pushed on this issue and he said that he still think there is still room to push him because this is only PBO’s personal belief. WTF.
For some people, Pres. Obama could say that the sky is blue, the moon orbits the earth and the Sun shines. TRUST, those same people would say that he didn’t mention that water was wet and he is not supportive of the ocean.
You, and cookemom below, got the men mixed up. PBO’s classmate, Mr. Boykins did not say that. it was the other gentleman on the platform, Dorian Warren, who said that.
Some political context, totally skipped by me, was mentioned on LOD tonight: Unions were already mad about holding the Dem convention in NC (a right-to-work state), then yesterday’s Amendment 1 vote in NC.
I just want to say that, 75% of me is so happy that obama has finally stated that how he feels about equal treatment of gays/lesbian but 25% of me is pissed off and angry that he was forced to make this move before he was ready. Sometimes I get frustrated that the progressives/left and LGBT don’t see the bigger picture in their fight for equal rights. I think by him making this move will mobilize the base to vote for him,donate money to him and canvass for him, BUT there is a strong possibility that North Carolina is off the table for him winning now, and he may lose a lot of votes in the midwest/rust belt states because of this and I hope this was worth it now before his relelection. This is going to be a close election and him losing one vote could tip the outcome whether it is congressional seats or senate seats. You know Karl Rove and the KOCH bros will be pounding the congressional districts about this very issue and this will be asked of those incumbants running in conservative districts or states. Get ready for “SENATOR TESTER DO YOU AGREE WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA ABOUT GAY MARRIAGE?” And he is running a red state like Montana. Or Claire McKaskill, Joe Mancin, or all those running in deep red districts. We all know how he felt about gay marriage,but I wished he could have waited until he got re-elected before admitting his true feelings. I just pray and hope this won’t affect his status with conservative democrats/moderates/independents in states like Virginia, Ohio and Pennsylvania. I am trying to stay optimistic about his chances. We just have to not rock the boat anymore with issues that could change the outcome of this election.
Some dumbass on Lawry’s show who was one of three guests including Crystal Ball said that PBO can do more than saying he supports marriage equality including signing executive orders….okay. This is what happens when we feed the alligators. He mentioned that though PBO had said SSM was a state issue that there was wiggle room there—– meaning that he wants to ignore the fact that marriage is a states issue and I guess try to force PBO to do something about SSM. What an idiot. 🙄
IF the goalposts are moved, they will be so by such a rump of a rump of the fringe that, really, no one will care. It’ll be the firebaggers in a circle jerk. Irrelevant.
i thought that it was only me seeing the alligators stalking PBO, now that he fed them. I can’t stand emoprogs. They aren’t ever satisfied. That guy is an ass.
This guy needs to be sent back to school to learn how our federal system of government works! When it comes to the issue of gay marriage, the President has no power to do anything about it. The President can’t issue an executive order ordering states to recognize gay marriages. Nor can he issue an executive order to overturn a law passed by Congress and signed by a previous president. DOMA was passed by Congress and signed into law by Bill Clinton. There are two avenues to overturn DOMA: the U.S. Supreme Court would rule that the law unconstitutional, or another act of congress overturning DOMA. The most viable way to end state bans on gay marriage nationwide is for the Supreme Court to rule state prohibitions of gay marriages were unconstitutional. I suppose Congress could also pass a law, under the authority of the Fourteenth Amendment, outlawing state discriminations against gays who choose to marry. However, given the current political reality, I highly doubt that would happen.
This is not the same thing as a president, acting as Commander in Chief, and in the absence of an act of Congress, ordering the integration of the military, as President Truman did in 1948. Segregation in the military was based on customary practice and not laws enacted by Congress. I heard this argument raised by some gay activists during the debate over DADT. They argued that President Obama could issue an executive order, just as Truman did with racial integration, to overturn DADT. What they failed to realize was that DADT was a law enacted by Congress and thus could not be overturned by an executive order.
Orange Boner:”I’ve always believed marriage was between a man and a woman.”—– Boner forgot to add: “and in the case of my family, it’s between first and second cousins, that’s why I’m such a stupid cuss.” ratf***. 🙄
@daveweigel: “Okay, Biden. Now say something about decriminalizing pot.”
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“This a very tender and sensitive topic as are many social issues,” Romney said, “but I have the same views I’ve had since running for office.” –Mitt Romney, Presidential candidate in 2012.
“I am more convinced than ever before that as we seek to establish full equality for America’s gay and lesbian citizens, I will provide more effective leadership than my opponent… We must make equality for gays and lesbians a mainstream concern.” –Mitt Romney, Senate candidate in 1994.
Heyyy
Go SueBee!
Congrats Sue bee on #1!
I’m watching her show tonight. Excellent. Cory Booker is on now. He is such a treasure.
second… or something
“Something” will have to do tonight. 🙂
BBC FP
US President Barack Obama has ended months of hedging on the issue of gay marriage by saying he thinks same-sex couples should be able to wed.
He has become the first sitting US president to back gay marriage.
Mitt Romney, the Republican who is set to challenge Mr Obama for the White House in November’s elections, promptly said he was against gay marriage.
In recent days, Vice-President Joe Biden and cabinet member Arne Duncan had expressed support for gay unions.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18014102
Dang!
HAPPY FEELINGS!!
(after which we all need to get back to the work of re-electing President Barack Obama!! You know, “Band of Brothers” “Keeping our Eyes on the Prize” and all that…)
Perfect!!
I love this song!
hey Isonnnnnn….
plan to be at the office doing phone banking on Thursday….do you plan to be there…
See you there!! I’ll be exhausted, but I’ll be there.. These have been a LONG few days. I’ve been battling for services for my son, and battling this CRA – CRA – CRAZY plan to dismantle public schools. I testified at City Council today. UGGGGHHH. People gotta WAKE UP!!!
i would be more than happy to talk to you about that..
Oooohh!!! Love me some Frankie!!! From deep in my soul…I Wish You Happy Feelins!
She really needs to sit in a corner somewhere, she is a piece of work. Whatever Rachel, Whatever
What?! Did you listen to her??
LOL! 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
I am not a fan and never will be a fan of Maddow. She turns with the wind, tomorrow it will be another goal post moving.
I feel the same about her much of the time, and I expected some snark from her tonight – but there was none, she gave complete credit where it is due.
I agree. I think some folks on Twitter were mad at Barney Frank for making some comments that she didn’t correct him on, but her statements in the segment above were spot on.
Rachel spent waaay too much time talking about GW before she got to praising President Obama. I don’t understand why she has to talk so dayum much to reach her point. She loses me. I liked Ellen’s statement much better and felt it came from her heart.
aristac this segment was Excellent.
I totally understand where you are coming from but its a great segment.
Cory Booker is such a hottie. And that speech Rachel ran on her show today is one of my favorites EVER.
Any pictues of POTUS and FLOTUS from tonight?
Not that I have seen so far…..
As you wish (though no FLOTUS here yet):
http://www.daylife.com/search/photos/1/grid?q=obama
A tiny bit of Michelle!
{{{Hugs})} to you, Chips!!
Check this one… who’s that lady standing and applauding Maestro Wonder?
http://www.daylife.com/photo/07vkgen7Al0L5?__site=daylife&q=obama
FLOTUS!
That’s OUR girl! 😀
Why?!?!?
did.PBS.not.let.Us.See.the.live.concert.!
One word: copyright.
But they streamed the other performances that they slated for later broadcast. What’s different?
Hey, I never said copyright made sense. 😆
Hey LL, I counter your comment about RuPaul with the following Sylvester clip. His unsung story was excellent… Enjoy!! 😆 😆 (I’m in a musical mood…)
Ok isonprize, you had me with Frankie, but you got me cryin now. I know Sylvester is smiling down with all his fabulousness tonight!
in my teenage years, even before I knew anything about anything, I knew this song and this man was a gift. Sylvester was just so comfortable with who he was, WAY before most people were comfortable with who he was. And HE COULD SANG!!!! Yes, I said SANG!! 😆 😆
It’s strange Hopefruit, I don’t know what happened tonight. The WH site was meant to show it, but never actually listed it on its schedule today, and both CNN and CBS’s live streaming sites advertised it, but didn’t show it either. ????
PBS will air it on Monday, May 21st at 9:00 PM ET.
I’m wondering if after last month (Red White and Blues, with PBO and Mick Jagger singing) when the performance was all over youtube before it aired on PBS. Perhaps PBS decided that they didn’t want a repeat of that.
I want to hug him.
Me too Me4Obama, me too!
Chips, they have posted a ton of pictures on Daylife from tonight. I know you are probably bringting some over right now. 🙂
The Obamas love some Stevie Wonder!
I recall PBO saying that her knowledge of Stevie Wonder’s music is epic. He said it was almost like if you didn’t like Stevie Wonder, she was pretty much through with you… 🙂
I actually watched Rachel tonight, anticipating her take on today’s events. My God, Cory Booker was awesome! Both in the speech clip and in his sit-down with Rachel.
I watched the segment LIVE. I commend her for giving Pres. Obama the credit he deserves and for highlighting that even with/without him coming out for same sex marriage he has been lockstep with the LGBT community, has an impressive record of LGBT accomplishments, and has greatly advanced LGBT causes, benefits, and rights.
But 6 out of 8 minutes on shrub and that sunbabitch raygun and just 2 minutes what Obama has done amazing things on LGBT issues, especially given her past tantrums ? She could have done better, imo.
That was just the 8 minutes I was able to record amk, have a look at the full show when it’s on the MSNBC site. I loved that she built up to PBO’s gay rights record by highlighting the horror of went before, Shrub etc. Made it all the more powerful for me.
Ok. I went by what I saw her.
I liked these BJ posts.
Thank you. I’m so fucking tired of the assholes around here who can’t concede for one moment that President Obama has ever done anything right. I had a front row seat during the AIDS epidemic, when the American President couldn’t be bothered to pretend that he gave a shit that literally thousands of Americans were dying, because they were gay. I watched every human being I loved curl up to die like stray cats in some alley, while the American President (and most of the American people)looked the other way. To everybody out there who can’t pass up the opportunity to shit all over anything remotely good, I have a message for you from a few hundred dead gay activists who spent the last breaths in their bodies fighting for the right to be treated like human beings in this country: Go fuck yourself. This matters, and those of us who get it are happy, and if you can’t be happy for our sake, that says more about you than it does this President or this moment.
I am a 52 year old Gay man. The Reverend is preaching the truth. Those of us old enough to come of age during the rise of HIV/Aids concomitant with Reagan and the Christian Right (Moral Majority) well remember the horrors of that era. Hatred and Homophobia and Hysteria ruled our lives. While our friends literally shriveled up and died? Seriously Gay Marriage debate 25 years ago? LOL. An fucking ABSURD concept that would never happen! Not in our life times (for those of us still around to grow old). What President Obama has done for the Gay/Lesbian community is simply amazing. A president publicly endorsing Gay Marriage versus some Senile has been actor who refused to even acknowledge or say the word AIDS or HIV. It’s a no brainer kids. Obama wins.
Sums up my feelings.
I dunno Chips, you might need to add the video of her segment with Future President-Elect Cory Booker.
He is just one vessel of awesome sauce. I l love how he frames this whole debate in terms of equal rights/equal protection under the law for all citizens. Simple. Elegant.
YES YES YES. Best three minutes of my day so far. Love his rightous passion.
I hope we someday see President Corey Booker.
O’Malley-Booker 2016?!?
[Thud!! ]
That would be me falling flat at the thought of all that BRAINS, BEAUTY, and GOODNESS on one ticket all over again.
or Booker-O’Malley? 😆 😆 (of COURSE, the drunken irishman would put O’Malley first! 😆 🙂 )
Either way, I’d be on the naughty mat for another 8 years.
SERIOUSLY. 😀 😀 😀
Hi Chips! It was a good segment ..but there were times in the past when Rachel trashed this President for not expressing his personal view on marriage equality in a timely manner. So it was difficult for me to feel completely warm and fuzzy about what she said about him tonight. But! I am so proud of our President and I encourage everyone to donate if you can, he will need it. The crazy conservative christians will be attacking him from all sides…
I think she has EVOLVED as well.
It’s a good thing.
but there were times in the past when Rachel trashed this President for not expressing his personal view on marriage equality in a timely manner
And she will again, over some new emoprog handwringing.
Hi SueBee, my head exploded at the time of the NY vote when she made her snarky and dishonest comments about PBO’s position, so I’ll never be a Maddow devotee. But to be honest, I expected her to be cynical tonight, in the end I thought she was completely fair. So I give her credit for that.
Fair enough.. 😀
My sentiments exactly.
Yes, thank you, Chips…credit when it’s due! Why not.
LOD leads with the $1 million smackeroos raised within 90 minutes after the interview aired! 😀
I would say Ellen’s one minute video was more heartfelt and more in the moment.
i’ll take Ellen over Miss (I’m so smart) Maddow anytime
You should watch the whole segment.
Ellen made me cry
Putin pulls out of US summit, meeting with Obama (Medvedev is coming in his place)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47363742
By ANNE GEARAN
AP National Security Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) – Russian President Vladimir Putin is skipping a planned visit to the United States this month for an economic summit and a much-anticipated meeting with President Barack Obama, the White House announced Wednesday.
The Russian leader told Obama by phone that he is unable to join the other leaders of the Group of Eight industrial nations meeting outside Washington on May 18-19 because he needs to finish work setting up his new Cabinet, the White House said. The Obama administration had moved the gathering to the Camp David presidential retreat in Maryland from the planned venue in Chicago partly to accommodate Putin.
Neither the White House nor the Kremlin had discussed the change in plans until Wednesday, but a White House official said National Security Adviser Tom Donilon was informed of it when he visited Putin and other Russian officials in Moscow last week.
There was no immediate confirmation of the change in plans from the Kremlin.
Putin took power this week, returning after six years to a post he had previously held for two terms. He made sharp criticism of the United States a central theme in his election, but it is not clear whether he will pull back from cooperation with the United States in several areas begun by former President Dmitry Medvedev.
“The two presidents reiterated their interest in the sustained high-level dialogue that has characterized the reset of relations and the substantial progress of the last three years,” since Obama took office, the White House said in a statement outlining the phone call Wednesday…
The statement listed several areas of cooperation such as nuclear security and nonproliferation, the war in Afghanistan and Russian membership in the World Trade Organization. It did not mention whether the leaders discussed areas of disagreement, such as the international response to violence in Syria.
Medvedev, who changed places with his mentor Putin as Russia’s prime minister, will fill in for Putin at the G-8 meeting, the White House said. Obama made headlines at his last meeting with Medvedev at a nuclear security summit in South Korea in March, when Obama was overheard saying he would have more flexibility to work with Russia on missile defense after the U.S. presidential election.
Republicans pounced on the remark, saying the president has a hidden agenda that could include concessions to the Russians if he wins re-election… (more in the article)
I’m not convinced that this isn’t a planned cancellation. After the nonsense that ensued after the open mic incident, the summit would have been overshadowed by media speculation of every blink and sneeze. Better for their first meeting to happen later – preferably after the election.
Chips,
I commend Rachel for finally saying what has already been known, that the Obama administration has been the most progressive and supporter of LGBT issues by their action and not just fake rhetoric ala Clinton.
But I did have to roll my eyes when she said she “personally” doesn’t care what words a pol says she personally believe in action…oh really Rachel, so all these years, all the BS she did before and after the DADT vote that POTUS doesn’t really believe in marriage equality even though his record had been and would be even more stellar…now she says hey words don’t matter? Whatever.
Another thing, like other people on twitter her segment with Barney Frank where Barney Frank made the same debunked claims about AA being at fault for Prop 8 and NC A1 pissed me off and sours the whole segment for me. Rachel has called out GOP for less when she interviews them, but she did nothing to challenge Barney Frank’s statement.
Right now after POTUS annoucement liberal such as Maddow and other LGBT activist needs to be really careful about blaming the passage of these amendment on AA when there is no clear evidence that it is true. They need to push back even on people they respect in the Dem leadership.
I just heard PBO’s old classmateon LOD say talk about howPBO was pushed on this issue and he said that he still think there is still room to push him because this is only PBO’s personal belief. WTF.
yep, he thinks he could sign an executive order between now and the convention, so it’s not just words. Oh bother!!
I just wrote about that dumbass downstream. I’m proud of PBO, but fricking emoprogs piss me off.
For some people, Pres. Obama could say that the sky is blue, the moon orbits the earth and the Sun shines. TRUST, those same people would say that he didn’t mention that water was wet and he is not supportive of the ocean.
You, and cookemom below, got the men mixed up. PBO’s classmate, Mr. Boykins did not say that. it was the other gentleman on the platform, Dorian Warren, who said that.
So she let that barney frank bilge go ‘without putting out the facts’, as she claims often ?
Mahalos, Chips, for the vid of Rachel! Killa!
Krystal Ball is one of my favorite pundits.
I love her also. Stephanie Cutter is good but Karen Finney and Krystal Ball are better.
Yes, Karen Finney is great, too. Both of them are so sharp.
I just love Krystal Ball. Her analysis is always spot on. And she is absolutely gorgeous.
She’s the best!
The Presidents new courting of Hollywood pays off-
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/10/us/politics/obamas-new-courting-of-hollywood-pays-off.html
Some political context, totally skipped by me, was mentioned on LOD tonight: Unions were already mad about holding the Dem convention in NC (a right-to-work state), then yesterday’s Amendment 1 vote in NC.
Too late to change it – who knows… it might just pay off in the end!
I just want to say that, 75% of me is so happy that obama has finally stated that how he feels about equal treatment of gays/lesbian but 25% of me is pissed off and angry that he was forced to make this move before he was ready. Sometimes I get frustrated that the progressives/left and LGBT don’t see the bigger picture in their fight for equal rights. I think by him making this move will mobilize the base to vote for him,donate money to him and canvass for him, BUT there is a strong possibility that North Carolina is off the table for him winning now, and he may lose a lot of votes in the midwest/rust belt states because of this and I hope this was worth it now before his relelection. This is going to be a close election and him losing one vote could tip the outcome whether it is congressional seats or senate seats. You know Karl Rove and the KOCH bros will be pounding the congressional districts about this very issue and this will be asked of those incumbants running in conservative districts or states. Get ready for “SENATOR TESTER DO YOU AGREE WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA ABOUT GAY MARRIAGE?” And he is running a red state like Montana. Or Claire McKaskill, Joe Mancin, or all those running in deep red districts. We all know how he felt about gay marriage,but I wished he could have waited until he got re-elected before admitting his true feelings. I just pray and hope this won’t affect his status with conservative democrats/moderates/independents in states like Virginia, Ohio and Pennsylvania. I am trying to stay optimistic about his chances. We just have to not rock the boat anymore with issues that could change the outcome of this election.
Kinona, There isn’t anything, ANYTHING that Pres. Obama does that is “before he was ready.” Underestimate Pres. Barack Obama at your own peril.
true dat! If we’ve learned one thing..it’s that PObama calls the shots.
I agree.
I think it was LL that posted the Band of Brothers speech on a previous thread….I prefer this one. Here we all are:)
Some dumbass on Lawry’s show who was one of three guests including Crystal Ball said that PBO can do more than saying he supports marriage equality including signing executive orders….okay. This is what happens when we feed the alligators. He mentioned that though PBO had said SSM was a state issue that there was wiggle room there—– meaning that he wants to ignore the fact that marriage is a states issue and I guess try to force PBO to do something about SSM. What an idiot. 🙄
goalposts will be moved.
exactly, it will never be enough.
IF the goalposts are moved, they will be so by such a rump of a rump of the fringe that, really, no one will care. It’ll be the firebaggers in a circle jerk. Irrelevant.
yep, this guy was a classmate of PBO. He’s starting a meme that an executive order will make it more than just his words.
i thought that it was only me seeing the alligators stalking PBO, now that he fed them. I can’t stand emoprogs. They aren’t ever satisfied. That guy is an ass.
No, it was the other guy, Dorian Warren. Boykins was the one who was the classmate of Obama. Boykins was supportive of PBO.
oops, my bad…
they wanted him to say the words, now the words are not enough. Let the Emoprog handwring and condescension’ begin
This guy needs to be sent back to school to learn how our federal system of government works! When it comes to the issue of gay marriage, the President has no power to do anything about it. The President can’t issue an executive order ordering states to recognize gay marriages. Nor can he issue an executive order to overturn a law passed by Congress and signed by a previous president. DOMA was passed by Congress and signed into law by Bill Clinton. There are two avenues to overturn DOMA: the U.S. Supreme Court would rule that the law unconstitutional, or another act of congress overturning DOMA. The most viable way to end state bans on gay marriage nationwide is for the Supreme Court to rule state prohibitions of gay marriages were unconstitutional. I suppose Congress could also pass a law, under the authority of the Fourteenth Amendment, outlawing state discriminations against gays who choose to marry. However, given the current political reality, I highly doubt that would happen.
This is not the same thing as a president, acting as Commander in Chief, and in the absence of an act of Congress, ordering the integration of the military, as President Truman did in 1948. Segregation in the military was based on customary practice and not laws enacted by Congress. I heard this argument raised by some gay activists during the debate over DADT. They argued that President Obama could issue an executive order, just as Truman did with racial integration, to overturn DADT. What they failed to realize was that DADT was a law enacted by Congress and thus could not be overturned by an executive order.
Shut up, Toure! Is he ever right?
He hangs with RATigan most of the time, what do you think?
No! Not better than Stephnaie Cutter or DWS, who actually work for the Campaign!
+1. Pundtwits are dime a dozen and boy can they dance, nay, pirouette on that dime ?
I love all of the ladies Jovie. They are all great. 🙂
Barney Frank is retiring, right? Might explain why he is always off the cuff!
Orange Boner:”I’ve always believed marriage was between a man and a woman.”—– Boner forgot to add: “and in the case of my family, it’s between first and second cousins, that’s why I’m such a stupid cuss.” ratf***. 🙄
New post everyone:
http://theobamadiary.com/2012/05/09/on-song-2/
okay, let’s go for the jokes…
@daveweigel: “Okay, Biden. Now say something about decriminalizing pot.”
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“This a very tender and sensitive topic as are many social issues,” Romney said, “but I have the same views I’ve had since running for office.” –Mitt Romney, Presidential candidate in 2012.
“I am more convinced than ever before that as we seek to establish full equality for America’s gay and lesbian citizens, I will provide more effective leadership than my opponent… We must make equality for gays and lesbians a mainstream concern.” –Mitt Romney, Senate candidate in 1994.
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