350 Responses to “I can’t help thinking…..”

  1. 1 lisalovesobama
    May 2, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    a match made in heaven.

  2. 3 Gail
    May 2, 2012 at 8:48 pm


    • 4 yardarm756
      May 2, 2012 at 10:15 pm

      This isn’t even open for debate!

    • 5 utaustinliberal
      May 2, 2012 at 11:11 pm

      Most definitely. Sums her up to a T.

      • 6 Chi
        May 3, 2012 at 2:58 am

        It is so sad and more than a tad irritating to have people dredge up versions of your still forming life story as a 19/ 22 year old…

        Versions told from the perspective of and by random people who live on the fringes of your world and are merely incidental to your life story …but who think they know you because you accidentally encounter them at just one of the various phases of life as it happens to and unfolds for you…

        It is even sadder and more infuriating when these random people insist on clinging to the vestiges of what in the greater scheme of things, is but a blip in your overall story…but feel infinitely qualified in their categorical definition of you by that momentary encounter…

        …insisting that this makes them an authority on your life, the totality of who you were …and have grown up to be…

        It is amusing when these same people from your youth, some 30 years later, try to pass off tales of sexual encounters with a 20/22 year old boy…raging hormones and all…as evidence of meaningful intimacy…

        Heaven forbid that the fleeting encounters of our youth – college and early post college days – insist on telling their versions of that regrettable time long and best forgotten…which in retrospect elicit cringe-worthy memories which you hope against hope nobody else is privy to…

        • 7 edp4bho
          May 3, 2012 at 8:44 am

          Amen Chi. Even though I read the article, I felt a bit voyeuristic in that this is our President, and has been open to what I feel is an exorbitant amount of scrutiny, and greedy people salivate. This reminds me of the video of POTUS and FLOTUS in a moment of intimacy, and the disgusting remarks by a member of a film crew, which I muted, and have only viewed that video initially out of interest, like anyone else, but then again to understand the context. I was embarrassed in having that accessible, so I refuse to watch it. Same with his birth certificate, tax returns, etc. There’s only so much I feel I need to know about the private lives of people I respect and admire. In the end, aren’t we fabulously happy he didn’t stay with that woman?

  3. 8 Roberta in MN
    May 2, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    Awesome Chips. They are such a great couple. They make us proud in the USA.

  4. 9 Suzette
    May 2, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    I also loved that quote when I read the article.

    When something is destined to be you can not stop it – Barack and Michelle were meant to find each other and to be together.

    • 10 Ceb
      May 2, 2012 at 8:58 pm

      I was intrigued by the article as well. I thought this quote was eerily prophetic. His past lover seemed to understand him very well. I am interested, however, to learn how and why she decided to reveal such details about their relationship at this time.

      • May 2, 2012 at 9:21 pm

        I thought she understood him well also, very intuitive. And, as it turns out (see above), she was very accurate in predicting his future. I don’t blame her for contributing. She was contacted by the author who likely said he wanted to fill in the blanks in the life of this most remarkable man, the POTUS, that it would become a part of his historical biography and she agreed and wanted to give a truthful account. I would have done the same. I was just impressed with the depth of his thinking and writing at that age, an impressive and multi-dimensional young man. I was a little more shallow at that age—-more like, when and where is the next party?

      • May 2, 2012 at 9:45 pm

        As long as its positive I honestly don’t mind. I’m curious myself. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • 13 globalcitizenlinda
      May 2, 2012 at 10:07 pm

      this very quote stood out for me in that article and I read it multiple times

  5. 14 forus50
    May 2, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    Who said that about POTUS? (Hi Chipsticks and everyone! I’ve been lurking with no time to comment as work has been insanely busy.)

  6. 19 Britt
    May 2, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    I hope Michelle accompanies him to the debates in the fall. I loved watching the primary in general debates just to see what she was going to wear.

  7. May 2, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    He found exactly what he was hoping for!

  8. 21 isonprize
    May 2, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    So in love. WOW!!! When he looks at her, when she looks at him, THERE IS NO ONE ELSE IN THE UNIVERSE. So cool…

  9. May 2, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    Yea, that was some amazing insight by that girl. Doesn’t change the fact that she’s a real bitch to sell her diary with his private letters.

    • 23 prettyfoot58
      May 2, 2012 at 9:24 pm


    • 24 lisalovesobama
      May 2, 2012 at 9:28 pm

      I really love you BWD.

    • 25 Britt
      May 2, 2012 at 9:44 pm

      “Doesnโ€™t change the fact that sheโ€™s a real bitch to sell her diary with his private letters.” This is how I feel. Many of their exes have been contacted, but they decline to speak.

    • 26 Lovepolitics2008
      May 2, 2012 at 10:23 pm

      Selling his private letters is absolutely DESPICABLE. Come on !!! Just because he’s the POTUS doesn’t mean the public has a right to know every single PRIVATE feeling he has had in his life. I’m absolutely OUTRAGED. This is a kind of rape, an “emotional” rape. No matter how this “Genevieve” wraps her betrayal into some silly rationalization, what she did is indecent.

      HOW do you think this is going to be used by the right ? They are going to talk about it over and over, just for the pleasure of hurting him on a personal level, embarrassing him, and putting Michelle and the girls in an uncomfortable position.

      Sometimes I’m so disgusted at the lack of basic decency in politics. It hurts not only my heart, but my soul.

      • 27 Lovepolitics2008
        May 2, 2012 at 10:43 pm

        Just another note: I’m conscious that the bulk of the letters are mostly about “thinking” and soul-searching and not about feelings between the two of them. I still think this is a despicable violation of privacy.

        • 28 yardarm756
          May 2, 2012 at 10:56 pm

          Everybody wants to get paid. Right? ๐Ÿ™„

          • 29 globalcitizenlinda
            May 2, 2012 at 11:08 pm

            yes everybody wants to get paid but some things are priceless – to quote another well-worn saying

            • 30 yardarm756
              May 2, 2012 at 11:13 pm

              doesn’t change the fact that some will do anything for a few bucks or to be on tv.

              • 31 globalcitizenlinda
                May 3, 2012 at 12:11 am

                from the extract she comes from a rich family and so I suspect that money may not be something she badly needs. I think it is about her need to be part of the “Obama official history” and get her 15 minutes of fame

                • 32 yardarm756
                  May 3, 2012 at 12:30 am

                  Whatever. I just wonder why at this time?

                • 33 Chi
                  May 3, 2012 at 3:19 am

                  ‘…from the extract she comes from a rich family and so I suspect that money may not be something she badly needs. I think it is about her need to be part of the โ€œObama official historyโ€ and get her 15 minutes of fame…’

                  Former diplomats are not necessarily rich…

                  And Genevieve like many a passed over woman, obviously has a desperate need to feel better about being rejected by a young detached Barack Obama who now publicly worships and adores his wife…by hinting at her sexual encounter with him…

                  Some women hope this type of public revelation detracts from or diminishes the sacred and special love, closeness and commitment that inspires public admiration of the couple…

                  Women like Genevieve also secretly feel the need to one-up the wife of the object of their unrequited love by reminding them that they have slept with their guy…

    • 34 globalcitizenlinda
      May 2, 2012 at 11:05 pm

      I found myself thinking that she should have held onto those and given them to a history at a much later date (maybe in her final will and testament with a caveat that he too would have gone to heaven) because they are a national treasure and would be a personal treasure if they were written to me. No way I would let people into my private life except when I dead and gone and I believe history needs to record this.

      I guess I am very protective of PBO and I get the feeling that he is a very private person with a gate up where he prefers the public should not go

    • 35 Puddin'
      May 2, 2012 at 11:08 pm

      …my first thought when I read some of the article…I stopped reading after a few entires.

  10. 37 donna dem 4 obama
    May 2, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    Heads Up! Brian Williams Rock Center Interview with the President coming on at 9:00 EST

  11. 38 vitaminlover
    May 2, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    Barack and Michelle, undying love, true love, endless love, real love, once-in-a-lifetime,dream come true. They belong together-“Always and Forever, this moment with youuuuu, is just like a dream to me, that somehow came truuuuue, and I know tomorrow, will still be the same, ’cause they’ve got a life of loooovvvve, that won’t ever change and everydaayy, love me your own special way, melt all my heart awaayy, with smile. Take time to tell me yoouuuu really care and we’ll share tomorrow, togetherrr, I’ ll always love you, forever.” That is their love story and they are sticking with it. I love this beautiful couple.

  12. May 2, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    Kochbrothersexposed.com . . . check it out. Mr. Greenwald was on the Ed show tonight. Very interesting!

  13. 45 Suzette
    May 2, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    Rock Center with Brian Williams is now on NCB. This looks at the dead of bin Laden with the President and members in the room at the time of the mission.

    • 46 Suzette
      May 2, 2012 at 9:05 pm

      Sorry… its NBC.

    • 47 miss pat
      May 2, 2012 at 9:36 pm

      NCB is yoiur bank Suzette?

      • 48 Suzette
        May 3, 2012 at 7:24 am

        True – National Commercial Bank!!

        • 49 miss pat
          May 3, 2012 at 9:41 am

          I found a bank book with 9000 Ja dollars that I left there in 2009. On my next trip I’m going to go “draw” my money. I see that you work at JLS. My late mom worked there too. Was the librarian at a country library. In fact I sent some books to Kingston in her memoory. The Presiden’ts two books were included. Hope people are reding them.

  14. 50 PoliticalJunkessa
    May 2, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    Watching The Situation Room special on NBC!

    This quote from the ex-girlfriend is…..interesting. I always wondered if some ex-girlfriend would sell out. Haven’t read the article yet…..

  15. May 2, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    OMG. . . that smile at the WHCD last year just turns my heart upside down! Can you imagine what you going thru his mind? Gives me chills!

  16. 52 jacquelineoboomer
    May 2, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    We get to hear all about it from the President! Yes!!!! He’s the only one I trust to tell the story, in addition to those he specifically trusts. Glad BriWi got to do this.

  17. May 2, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    Not sure if everyone ever saw this interview that Barack & Michelle gave to a French mag in 1996. This quote stood out for me >> “Sometimes, when weโ€™re lying together,” he says, “I look at her and I feel dizzy (BO on MO)http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2009/01/sacre-bleu-le-m/

  18. May 2, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    A True Love Story:

  19. May 2, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    What a President. . . What more can I say!

  20. 60 collegekay
    May 2, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    The bin Laden special is excellent.

    • 61 Ceb
      May 2, 2012 at 9:25 pm

      Yes, it is riveting. After it is over, I think I will take another look at the 60 minutes interview that was done a year ago. PBO was terse, steely-eyed and completely badass.

      • 62 globalcitizenlinda
        May 2, 2012 at 11:12 pm

        thanks for the reminder of that CBS interview. I will be following your example and watching it again given the context of what I just learned from this NBC special

  21. 63 desertflower
    May 2, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    All you TOD’ers watching the Rock Center piece, don’t give us Pacific time people all the info….want to be surprised when I watch ๐Ÿ™‚

  22. 64 Ladyhawke
    May 2, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    I remember when this picture was taken. It was after one of the debates had finished and the candidates were leaving the stage. And I distinctly remember seeing then Senator Obama looking around intently as if he was trying to find someone in particular. Eventually his search ended and his face lit up. He was looking for Michelle. I was blown away by the look on his face when he saw her. It was the look of love. They are such a beautiful couple. Made for each other.

  23. 65 donna dem 4 obama
    May 2, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    All I can say is that I am just so happy to be alive to see this President in action because he is one of the most courageous leaders this Nation has ever had!

    • 66 vcprezofan2
      May 2, 2012 at 9:26 pm

      DD4O can you direct me to the site with the interview with PBO. I had forgotten, and can’t seem to find it on msnbc once I saw the reminder.

      • 67 donna dem 4 obama
        May 2, 2012 at 9:33 pm

        Its on NBC (Network News Station) not on cable. I’m sure the video will be available later tonight.

    • 68 Pamela
      May 2, 2012 at 11:20 pm

      Amen Donna… We saw so much upheaval and turmoil all through the 60’s, lost too many promising leaders, as the darkness settled over America. Now we have Light. We have Hope. We must have known in our hearts, because there has always been a sense of change coming, of living in a better age, so we kept on,doing the best we could in our own lives, learning compassion. Now we truly have a leader who brings us all together, and so we ARE greater. We are many, willing to become One. W are blessed to be alive to witness these times!

  24. 69 PoliticalJunkessa
    May 2, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    PBO is like a cheshire cat in this interview when talking about last year’s WHC Dinner. Good stuff. :-).

    • 70 jacquelineoboomer
      May 2, 2012 at 9:39 pm

      Oh, is that who that handsome leader of the free world is doing most of the talking? Yes, I’m enjoying his attitude, that night and this night.

      • 71 jacquelineoboomer
        May 2, 2012 at 9:41 pm

        uh … *who is doing most of the talking* … got a little carried away there

  25. 72 PoliticalJunkessa
    May 2, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    Hillary Clinton has become so delightful to me. Never would have thunk it.

    • 73 vcprezofan2
      May 2, 2012 at 9:29 pm

      WHERE are you viewing this, PJ?

      • 74 hopefruit2
        May 2, 2012 at 9:30 pm

        It’s being televised on NBC. I don’t know if they’re carrying it online.

      • 75 PoliticalJunkessa
        May 2, 2012 at 9:32 pm

        Brian Williams “Rock Center” on NBC.

        • 76 vcprezofan2
          May 2, 2012 at 10:01 pm

          THANK YOU ALL!

          I am just seething here. I can’t believe my laptop chose the moment I asked my desperate question to freeze for an extended period of time. Count to 10, VC…. x 10. Grrrh!

          • 77 PoliticalJunkessa
            May 2, 2012 at 10:14 pm

            You will probably be able to find a clip online shortly — either at NBC/MSNBC.com or YouTube….or right here ๐Ÿ˜‰ .

            • 78 vcprezofan2
              May 2, 2012 at 10:31 pm

              I’m waiting with bated breath! (Not that I would be brazen enough to nudge Chips or anything ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜‰ ). After getting the info that it was on the dreaded TV, I yelled to offspring who found it for me, only by then it was at the summary stage. Apparently I could see it in 2 hours if I watched it in some other time zone, but since I know Ms Chips will have it up before then, I passed on offspring’s kind offer. ๐Ÿ™„

    • 82 jacquelineoboomer
      May 2, 2012 at 9:38 pm

      PJ – Me, too. Loved the way she was slouched in her chair, so comfortable, being interviewed by Brian. Also loved the fact she couldn’t and didn’t tell Bill all about the exercise. Which I believe.

    • 84 globalcitizenlinda
      May 2, 2012 at 11:15 pm

      I was also very happy about Secretary Clinton’s input in this special. She has no motive of upstaging PBO at all in this and she seems to be a very good team player

    • 85 trinisamba
      May 3, 2012 at 9:09 am


      • 86 miss pat
        May 5, 2012 at 9:22 am

        Just another way of saying the word think when something is unbelievable. It’s an American way. So it’s not in the dictionary.

    • 87 miss pat
      May 3, 2012 at 9:44 am

      I kinda like her a little bit. I figure since ethe President has forgiven her and moved on I can too. But her husband Bill..well, that’s another story.

  26. 88 hopefruit2
    May 2, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    CNN is airing PBO’s sister (Auma)’s interview with Piers Morgan right now while we’re watching NBC. Fortunately, CNN re-airs Piers Morgan at 12midnight ET. I set my DVR for that timeslot. ๐Ÿ™‚

  27. 89 Roberta in MN
    May 2, 2012 at 9:31 pm

    We are having terrible weather here and they keep interruping Brian Williams show with the President. Dmaned. Winds 60mi hr and large hail and flooding too. I may have to finish watching this sometime later when they have the repeat.

    • 90 jacquelineoboomer
      May 2, 2012 at 9:37 pm

      Take care of yourself, Roberta. Good luck!

    • 91 vcprezofan2
      May 2, 2012 at 10:03 pm

      Yeah, hope you’re watching the nature show from a safe vantage point. Take care.

    • 92 0388jojothecat
      May 3, 2012 at 12:24 am

      Hi Roberta in MN, I hope things calm down I see the temps are supposed to get up to the 80’s tomorrow. Hot and muggy I suppose.

  28. 93 amk for obama
    May 2, 2012 at 9:33 pm

    cisse blues. ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚

  29. 95 LunarSea
    May 2, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    all i have to say to our west coast TODers is DON’T MISS IT!

  30. May 2, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    Hope everyone is watching PBO on Rock Center—–all the never before revealed details of that night—-as it unfolded minute by minute—–it’s a great program. PBO just described someone else as “a cool customer”—–I think that is a very accurate description of our president.

    • 97 globalcitizenlinda
      May 2, 2012 at 11:17 pm

      hey! hey! PBO described Gen McRaven as a “Cool Customer” and I just laughed out loud

  31. 98 Ceb
    May 2, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    Repug heads are exploding all over the country.

  32. 100 LunarSea
    May 2, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    crap cnn is trying to compete w/brian. I would love to see PBO’s sis speak. I saw her on a German talk show once. Didn’t understand a thing she said, but loved listening to a black woman speaking German. She was very poised. a female version of PBO

  33. 103 Lorraine
    May 2, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    I thought it was suppose to come on at 10 est.

  34. 104 PoliticalJunkessa
    May 2, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    Just saw the “Swiss Bank Account” ad on t.v. (NBC) —– woot! :mrgreen:

  35. 105 hopefruit2
    May 2, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    #RockCenter is now trending on Twitter!

  36. 107 PoliticalJunkessa
    May 2, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    All I can say is THANK GOD this mission was successful. THANK GOD! The alternative is unthinkable on soooo many levels. Mercy. We have the right man in the Oval Office.

  37. 111 PoliticalJunkessa
    May 2, 2012 at 9:49 pm

    LOL@ Joe and his rosary! Gotta ♥ Joe!

  38. 118 globalcitizenlinda
    May 2, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    WHY, WHY am I crying so uncontrollably as I watch PBO and his Team (American’s Team) recall the mission to get OBL! I was weeping so hard I could not type a word !!!!!

    • 119 jacquelineoboomer
      May 2, 2012 at 9:59 pm

      The most chilling part for me was hearing the throng of people outside of the White House cheering “USA” after our President’s firm leadership and the actions of the SEALs that night. Love those moments, few and far between, when we the people all come together.

      • 120 daisydem
        May 2, 2012 at 10:46 pm

        We the people should come together more often .. in public, in throngs, in support!

      • 122 globalcitizenlinda
        May 3, 2012 at 12:18 am

        I too loved that part. I was surprised to see how deeply moved PBO, Sec Clinton and other seemed to be taken aback and yet overwhelmed by the spontanous reaction of the people outside the White House shouting USA! USA! USA!

        • 123 jacquelineoboomer
          May 3, 2012 at 12:25 am

          I loved the various degrees of emotion they showed in tonight’s special (and that night) about the incident. Probably the night of the President’s announcement to the nation was so intense in the situation room that they lost track of the “outside world,” even just outside the White House gates. The only thing I wondered about was why hadn’t somebody inside the White House mentioned to them that the throngs were outside, before they actually heard the chants? Maybe the group was just not available so somebody could hand them a note! That was certainly a night to remember, in any event.

  39. 124 AOK
    May 2, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    I’m Audrey and I’m 9 … I LOVE OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and Michelle and Bo too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OBAMA 2012

    • May 2, 2012 at 9:55 pm

      LOL ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚ Hello Audrey. We love all those people and Bo too!!! Obama 2012!

    • 126 globalcitizenlinda
      May 2, 2012 at 9:58 pm

      Oh very good to see you!! Welcome Audrey! You are a treasure!!! and yes President and Mrs Obama are great role models for many of us of many ages

    • 127 jacquelineoboomer
      May 2, 2012 at 9:58 pm

      We love you, too, Audrey! We are glad you are paying attention to what our great President and his family (and Bo) are doing for our country!

    • 128 PoliticalJunkessa
      May 2, 2012 at 9:58 pm

      Hellooooooooo Audrey!!!!! 9 is a GREAT age! ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • 129 lisalovesobama
      May 2, 2012 at 9:58 pm

      Hi Audrey who is 9!!!! Does your mom know you’re online? If so, hello Audrey who is 9’s mom.

      • 130 vcprezofan2
        May 2, 2012 at 10:10 pm

        Very pertinent question, Lisa. Totally appreciate the gentleness of your reminder. ๐Ÿ˜‰

        • 131 lisalovesobama
          May 2, 2012 at 10:16 pm

          Hiya VC! If you are Audrey who is 9’s mom, may I say congrats on such a sweet and loving child. 9 was a great age for me too.

          • 132 vcprezofan2
            May 2, 2012 at 10:24 pm

            No, no, not blessed with any daughters! Just acknowledging the ‘mother’ in you though I don’t believe you’ve yet started on that path. ๐Ÿ˜‰ I have this ‘thing’ about word usage, and I really, really liked the tone of your comment, is all. ๐Ÿ˜›

    • 134 jackiegrumbacher
      May 2, 2012 at 10:07 pm

      Audrey, good for you for coming online and sharing your love of the president with all of us. We, too love him and his wonderful dog. You are a very smart young woman and the president is lucky to have you on his side.

    • 135 LunarSea
      May 2, 2012 at 10:15 pm

      Welcome AOK – You have great taste in presidents.

      Maybe one day people will be expressing their love and admiration for YOU as president. Anything is possible.

    • May 2, 2012 at 10:21 pm

      Heee. Hi, kid. Wish you could vote. ๐Ÿ™‚

  40. 137 PoliticalJunkessa
    May 2, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    It’s nice to see a skilled, knowledgeable, curious, respectful interviewer at work. Such a rare experience these days. Thank you Brian Williams!

  41. 140 donna dem 4 obama
    May 2, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    Spoiler Alert!

    The flag comment gave me chills and made me tear up!

    • 141 PoliticalJunkessa
      May 2, 2012 at 10:10 pm

      That was really impactful. Whew!

    • 142 LunarSea
      May 2, 2012 at 10:18 pm

      yeah I can see where that would be among his most prized possessions of his time in office. They probably wouldn’t be able to put it in his presidential library tho as that would expose the ops team members.

      Ha, it just occurred to me, who ever our future presidents may be, he will be the only to lay claim to that flag. Get a whiff of THAT RWNJs **laughs my evil laugh**

  42. May 2, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    I feel like crying! Hell, I am crying!

  43. 146 lisalovesobama
    May 2, 2012 at 10:01 pm

    Tonight’s Rock Center may be the most watched.

  44. May 2, 2012 at 10:01 pm

    Heeellllloooo TODsters!!!! Watching this very intriguing show on the PBO & co.,SEALS, OBL and all the rest that wentinto that mission. Brain Williams did a great job and remained the narrator, and not a part of the story. KUDOS for a job well done. btw, that look on PBO at the beginning of the thread is one that we sometimes with others. Y’all can look, but don’t even think you can touch.

  45. 151 globalcitizenlinda
    May 2, 2012 at 10:01 pm

    I can tell you that I will be watching this presentation by Brian Williams over and over and over. I am simply over whelmed by the details of evry thing said and recalled by those who were there

  46. 152 amk for obama
    May 2, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    AZ neo-nazi nut and minuteman kills 4 including a 2 year old and then kills himself.


  47. May 2, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    So PROUD and GRATEFUL that he is OUR President. Thank you, God. Seriously, thank you!

  48. 158 lisalovesobama
    May 2, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    O/T: on the leavings of The Newtster
    Goodbye Mr. & Mrs. Helmethair.

  49. May 2, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    Phenomenal special on NBC. Excellent work by Brian Williams.

    Incredible work by our President, his administration, our military, and the Seals.

    • 162 globalcitizenlinda
      May 2, 2012 at 10:06 pm

      I need a DVD of this program – to own and share with others who care so deeply about PBO

      • 163 symmetry11
        May 2, 2012 at 10:12 pm

        I was thinking the same thing.

      • 164 prettyfoot58
        May 2, 2012 at 10:17 pm


      • May 2, 2012 at 10:19 pm

        I was thinking the same, gcl. I would like to have a DVD of this. To watch over and over again. And maybe a second DVD to share with others (I don’t think I’d want to let go of one of my own!!).

        • 166 vcprezofan2
          May 2, 2012 at 10:44 pm

          Hey Pickle, I didn’t think there were others who used this sharing tactic! if something really appeals to me and I want to share I like to get two copies – one for me and one for sharing. I lost many favourite books before I smartened up. Do networks normally make DVDs of good stuff like this, or are you all just dreaming?

      • 167 Pamela
        May 2, 2012 at 11:55 pm

        OFA might offer it in the Store soon.

  50. May 2, 2012 at 10:07 pm

    I love the way President Obama is able to respond to the most difficult and touchy questions and subjects—–in awe, in fact—-always able to phrase everything in The Best Way Possible—–such as describing his reaction to the new photo of a dead bin Laden—–and his phone call to W. I am just overjoyed with the quality and the qualities of this man.

    • 169 globalcitizenlinda
      May 3, 2012 at 12:26 am

      every day we seem to be reminded of how much we love PBO and so appreciate the deepth of his character

  51. 170 lisalovesobama
    May 2, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    I wonder if the folks at FAUX vote? Lawry just showed the clip of Shep reading Willard’s statement about Leroy ending his campaign. I would think they were too jaded to actually go out and vote.

    • 171 PoliticalJunkessa
      May 2, 2012 at 10:11 pm

      I just saw that clip. Shep looks malnourished! WTH!

      • 172 lisalovesobama
        May 2, 2012 at 10:24 pm

        Yup. Looks like he’s on a starvation diet. Also looks like he hasn’t slept a day since he started working for FAUX…….. That’s what happens when you sell your soul…. He looks like the portrait of Dorian Gray, hanging in the attic. Wonder where the living, breathing Shep is given the fact that his portrait is sitting in my tv, spinning for Faux.

        • 173 PoliticalJunkessa
          May 2, 2012 at 10:28 pm

          LOL! I don’t think I had seen Shep since Katrina, which he covered splendidly. Free (the real) Shep!

  52. 174 Pamela
    May 2, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    This program starts at 9? What channel is NBC? It sounds as if it is not to be missed…

  53. 179 donna dem 4 obama
    May 2, 2012 at 10:14 pm

    • 180 jacquelineoboomer
      May 2, 2012 at 10:31 pm

      Beautiful, Donna! (You’re beautiful, too, but I was talking about the poster here. Love it.)

  54. 181 JD
    May 2, 2012 at 10:14 pm

    My only problem with the Brian Williams broadcast is that it intimated that PBO’s killing of Bin Laden was a continuation of Bush’s efforts. It wasn’t mentioned that Bush had given up on getting Bin Laden and that President Obama ordered the CIA to renew the hunt for him. Of course, saying this would have made the broadcast seem biased, but reality tends to have a Democratic bias these days. Also, there was no need to say anything nice about Bush. He screwed up the hunt for Bin Laden as he screwed up just about everything else he touched.

    Otherwise, it was a very inspiring broadcast. Very proud of the president, the national security staff, and the courageous special operators.

    • 182 EDP4BHO
      May 2, 2012 at 10:24 pm

      Agree with you on the Bush part. They could have floated on by that a bit, but we also know how magnanimous PBO is, and he will always put his best face forward. Actually, I think it’s the only face he has. And what a gorgeous one it is. OT, I know !

    • 184 Cha
      May 3, 2012 at 1:24 am

      It’s up to the internet to make sure no one forgets bush wanted to FORGET ABOUT bin laden.

  55. 185 prettyfoot58
    May 2, 2012 at 10:16 pm

    Riveting….exceptional broadcast….i thoroughly enjoyed that…

  56. 187 miss pat
    May 2, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    I agree. Throw them a bone, let them feel good. We know the truth and they know that we know the truth. Let them gnaw on that bone keep them quiet foer a while. Other than that Brian Williams did a good job. Showed respect, was not condescending.

    • 188 LunarSea
      May 2, 2012 at 10:24 pm

      I agree it was a throw them a bone spiel. Didn’t mess up a well made documentary. We all know the truth, even those with their fingers in their ears.

  57. 189 carolyn
    May 2, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    Where would we as a country be if this wonderful man were not the president these past three years! I shudder to think! We are SO fortunate.

    Welcome Audrey who is nine. I have a wonderful grandson who is ten. He is very smart, like you, and I absolutely adore him. I also have a grandson who is five, almost six, and I also absolutely adore him. You have a wonderful life ahead of you!

  58. 191 Elly in Maryland
    May 2, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    Watching President Obama describe how he evaluated all the information and made his decision, I thought of Reagan and George W. Bush and what a contrast they make. They let other people make the decisions, were too lazy or unintelligent to do it themselves, or just didn’t think things through.

    • 192 LunarSea
      May 2, 2012 at 10:29 pm

      It made me think of the Bay of Pigs and how Kennedy had his brother. Remember that iconic photo of them sitting across from each other, they were leaning into each other and their heads almost touched. Kennedy had a trusted bro, confidant and AG.

      PBO had to make this decision all by him self. And if things went wrong, he would’ve borne the brunt of the fall out.

      Gutsy anyway you look at it.

    • May 2, 2012 at 10:32 pm

      Yes. That reminds me of what Robert Gates said. He’s worked in DC for 3 decades with all those presidents and seen them make decisions, but says this decision by this president was the most gutsy. I heard an interview with him a year or so ago. He gave a long list of attributes of this president that he so admires and respects. I remember the ones he stressed the most were his thoroughness and thoughtfulness in making any decision and how he doesn’t want or take the credit for things…..it’s always the group/team.

  59. May 2, 2012 at 10:27 pm

    My grandson is almost 11. Last night, he found the program that was done about the getting of OBL…..can’t remember the exact name. My daughter said he was fascinated…..watched the entire thing. She DVR’d the one tonight so he can watch it.

  60. May 2, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    The Situation Room/Rock Center is on again tomorrow on MSNBC! Yay!!!

  61. May 2, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    Encore presentation of Brian Williams’ hour-long special tomorrow night at 8:00! I’m not sure whether it will be NBC or MSNBC (announcement on MSNBC) – and not sure the time zone.

  62. 205 EDP4BHO
    May 2, 2012 at 10:32 pm

    And if you read that article that aamom posted above, the one in the French magazine, one can see the continuity in a Barack Obama. He is the same today as he was all those years ago. The man is one for the record books. Just amazing.

    • 206 EDP4BHO
      May 2, 2012 at 10:35 pm

      This was in reply to Elly in Maryland. Also, if we are embracing a 9 year old, don’t you all think we’d better watch our “naughtyness”? Oh heck, what fun would we have? Oh Audrey, please close your ears when reading some comments here. We don’t want to ruin you, precious one ๐Ÿ˜€

      • 207 LunarSea
        May 2, 2012 at 10:44 pm

        That was my first thought when I saw her post “hide the naughty mats, quick!” That’s all I have to say on that.

        • 208 Pamela
          May 2, 2012 at 10:53 pm

          It might be a little late, ladies, as AOK may have been checking you(us) out before deciding we are safe enough for a kid to join up with! I hope so, AOK, cause then you will already know how much love and joy, peace and respect there is in this blog, and this naughty business is only innocent fun! We just love our Preezy to beezy

  63. 209 lisalovesobama
    May 2, 2012 at 10:58 pm

    Seriously don’t like the fact that people are picking on Mrs. Money’s clothes are on trial. Leave the damned wove out of it! She’s a wealthy woman, let her wear whatever the heck she wants. Just attack her hubby. Dummies!…….ugh, Meg McSame is on talking bout Miche’s $450 tennis shoes.

    • 210 lisalovesobama
      May 2, 2012 at 11:01 pm

      Ugh spell check:
      Wife. Leave the wife out of it. Don’t attack her or pick on her publicly. Don’t they realize the repukes can do the same to Miche? That stupid Spain trip is still making the rounds.

      • 211 hopefruit2
        May 2, 2012 at 11:13 pm

        I agree that Ms. Ann’s clothes should not factor in our discussion about how fit Willard is for President.

        But it was actually the Repubs who started attacking both the President AND FLOTUS for things unrelated to policy. E.g., Mrs. Obama’s trip to Spain, and their vacations in Hawaii. Now the shoe is on the other foot, they don’t like it.

        • 212 lisalovesobama
          May 2, 2012 at 11:32 pm

          That’s true, but families should always be off the table (publicly), no matter how gross they are.

    • 213 COS
      May 2, 2012 at 11:03 pm

      And Lawrence decided to have Megan McCain of all people on to talk about this tshirt. The privileged child who is the daughter of someone with 7 homes. Couldn’t he have chosen someone else?

      • 214 EDP4BHO
        May 2, 2012 at 11:12 pm

        All, and I mean “all” of these talking heads are in love with each other. There is no loyalty to a cause. They play us constantly. Good for them when they make sense, but we needn’t high five any of them. Except for Rev Al and maybe Martin, IMO. Nite TOD.

    • 215 itgurl_29
      May 2, 2012 at 11:23 pm

      I wish Democrats would just keep that botoxed hag’s name out of their mouths. Any mention of Ann Romney is a complete and utter distraction. Ignore her. I don’t care is she shows up in a 35,000 dollar blouse to feed homeless kids. Ignore her.

  64. 218 Sharon
    May 2, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    Admiral McRaven, head of Special Forces< who was involved in the operation from Afghanistan stated the following about his dealings with President Obama on this:

    " [President Obama] was really everything the American public would expect from their national leadership. I would contend he was the smartest guy in the room. He had leadership skills we'd expect from a guy who had 35 years in the military."

    Something to quote to the GOPers (leadership even) who are trying to make out that he has not lead.

    • 219 jacquelineoboomer
      May 3, 2012 at 12:21 am

      I saw that quote at the time, and I’m glad you brought it here as a reminder. Now, that’s respect for his Commander in Chief – plus he means it or he never would have phrased it that way.

  65. 220 vitaminlover
    May 2, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    Just curious, why is Willard running for President again?

  66. May 2, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    Jon Stewart is spending his whole program bashing Bashir and LO”D and msnbc—–for daring to mention Mormonism and some of the tenants of that faith. Out of all the deserving targets in our political sphere, all the garbage that has been thrown at Obama by so many on the right, Stewart chooses to devote his program mocking and downgrading 2 of the measly few hosts who support President Obama.

    • 227 amk for obama
      May 2, 2012 at 11:19 pm

      I wouldn’t be surprised at all if stew-rat endorses mittbot come november.

      • 228 hopefruit2
        May 2, 2012 at 11:51 pm

        Yup, he and Nate Silver seem to be on that track. And if Obama keeps doing well, you can add Ezra Klein to that list…

    • May 2, 2012 at 11:27 pm

      And then he has Tom Coburn on!! Last night it was that nutty far-right Christian historical-revisionist. Just not enjoying the Daily Show much anymore. Am turning back to reruns of MSNBC nightly shows.

      • 230 amk for obama
        May 2, 2012 at 11:35 pm

        He loves the rightwingers so much that he treats them with ‘respect’. But with the president, it’s “hey dude”. Fuck him.

    • 232 Cha
      May 3, 2012 at 1:19 am

      Maybe Jon needs some REALITY TWEETS PUSHBACK. I hope Martin and LO’D are up for it!

  67. May 2, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    Chips, LOVE your piece at the top of this post. AWESOME. I remember very clearly that debate with McCrabby McCain when the photo was taken and the way he looked at Michelle, searching for his anchor. That is a rare expression of deep love. WOOOTTTT.

  68. 234 LunarSea
    May 2, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    can watch it online here


  69. 239 prettyfoot58
    May 2, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    i have been thinking about the bush tax cuts….and the ensuing battle that will take place at the end of the year….

    perhaps we should let them all expire….

    what does the TOD fam …think

    • 240 Cman
      May 2, 2012 at 11:51 pm

      I agree. The president is not running again, so he can start building his legacy by getting our long term deficit under control. Although, if a republican takes over after him then it might all be for naught.

  70. 241 lisalovesobama
    May 2, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    There’s an article from Politico about the literary world’s response to PBO’s critique of Elliot, Yeats and “The Wasteland”—— apparently, they loved it and we’re thoroughly impressed, save for one right winger who said it showed he was a radical extremist. So, overall, it’s three pages of glowing amazement from poetry experts:


    • May 2, 2012 at 11:33 pm

      Yes, the takeaway is not the old gal friend but the depth and expanse of his knowledge

      • 243 lisalovesobama
        May 2, 2012 at 11:37 pm

        I still disagree with what she did. I think it’s wrong. PBO protected her privacy, she should have respected their relationship enough to not sell these important artifacts of what they once had. I already knew PBO was smart, I didn’t need her to sell him out to recognize the “depth and expanse of his knowledge.” That being said, it’s good that certain people are realizing PBO isn’t a bullshitter.

        • May 2, 2012 at 11:40 pm

          Yeah, if that had been me, I would have cherished the memories and kept it quiet. Whew.

          • 245 COS
            May 2, 2012 at 11:46 pm

            I totally agree with both of you. It is no way that I would have sold my soul after being involved with a special person like this. Some things are not for sale.

    • May 2, 2012 at 11:39 pm

      OH, COOL. Thank you, lisa. This is the part that interests me. The other stuff is just, oh wow!! PBO had a college girlfriend!!…..and it’s supposed to be a big deal.

  71. 248 utaustinliberal
    May 2, 2012 at 11:44 pm

    Chips…..this is for you. ๐Ÿ˜€

    p.s. MSNBC will air an encore of Rock Center with Brian Williams about the OBL raid tomorrow May 3rd, 2012 at 8PM ET/ 7PM CT.

  72. May 2, 2012 at 11:45 pm

  73. 253 utaustinliberal
    May 3, 2012 at 12:01 am

    Encore of Piers Morgan is ON right now with PBO’s sister Auma Obama. #CNN

  74. 257 sabreen60
    May 3, 2012 at 12:03 am

    I can’t stand Eliot Spitzer. Once again he is crying that President Obama should sign an Executive Order for a gay rights issue rather than waiting for Congress to pass a law. President Obama understood that EO’s can be overturned by the next President and that was why it was important for Congress to end DADT. But Spitzer is calling PBO weak and playing politics. What is Eliot anyway. He’s not a Dem, is he?

  75. 269 lisalovesobama
    May 3, 2012 at 12:05 am

    There’s a bulldog riding a rocking horse on Dave’s show!!! ๐Ÿ˜† so cute!

  76. 270 globalcitizenlinda
    May 3, 2012 at 12:07 am

    I do not know if the lady who chose to let the media into her life as an ex-girlfriend of the young PBO has ANY idea of how she has unleashed the jackals in the MSM during a campaign season where they are looking for any dirt on him.

    already her photos are already coming up on every where on google although my search terms were for information about the author of the book that VF is promoting.

    I can predict that she may live to regret her actions of talking to the jackals

    • 271 lisalovesobama
      May 3, 2012 at 12:15 am

      She sold the story.

    • 274 isonprize
      May 3, 2012 at 12:30 am

      She sold the story. But here’s the thing. It really makes her look bad. There’s nothing that happened that PBO didn’t talk about or refer to in his books. She looks like a sad old woman pining over and old boyfriend. Meanwhile, not only did he treat her well, he also didn’t invade her privacy in his writings. So, she clearly in searching for $$, fame, etc. She knew, even then, that it wasn’t a long-term lasting relationship.

      Here’s a classic jazz song that came to mind for me: Just one of those things… I’ll post Nat, then Ella.

      Both excellent artists who do the song in very different yet exciting styles!!

  77. 277 lisalovesobama
    May 3, 2012 at 12:11 am

    Why is Piers always talking bout PBO. It’s like he can’t get the real thing so he latches on to anyone close to him in this stalkerist kind out way. He’s like leeching off of them and deriving third hand pleasure from it.

  78. 279 utaustinliberal
    May 3, 2012 at 12:12 am

    Woah….PBO hails from an intellectually gifted family. His sister Auma Obama, went to college in Germany, speaks German and is so full of depth and wisdom. It’s in the freaking genes!

  79. 289 lisalovesobama
    May 3, 2012 at 12:17 am

    Piers just asked if Auma approved of Miche when they were getting married. ๐Ÿ™„

    • 290 LunarSea
      May 3, 2012 at 12:23 am

      That guy was dropped on his head as a child. There can be no other explanation

      • 291 lisalovesobama
        May 3, 2012 at 12:28 am

        Amen. He’s sick. He should be engaging in something a little more redemptive. Selling your soul to the folks who ravaged you when they caught you with your pants down isn’t very smart. Ugly freak.

      • 293 jacquelineoboomer
        May 3, 2012 at 12:31 am

        Well, that explanation – plus the Peter Principle (being promoted well beyond his level of ability – in this case, to host this show). And that’s all I’ll say about that last one.

      • 294 edp4bho
        May 3, 2012 at 9:27 am

        LOL. I missed this conversation last night- can’t stay up that late. You guys rock in the a.m. ๐Ÿ˜€

  80. 295 utaustinliberal
    May 3, 2012 at 12:19 am

    PBO’s sister is a humanitarian and a community activist like PBO also. Wooohooo!

  81. 296 Don
    May 3, 2012 at 12:19 am

    Poet, Philosopher, Author, Statesman, Baller, Shot Caller. After reading the Vanity Fare article, President Obama is for all intents and purposes the smartest person in the room at any given time. The coming debates might prove brutal for Mitt Romney simply because I donโ€™t think Romney has ever gone below the surface and figured out who or what he is.

  82. 298 lisalovesobama
    May 3, 2012 at 12:20 am

    Here it comes:” Are you a critic of [ you’re brother]?” ๐Ÿ™„ what an ass.

    ” did he get that great singing voice from his African side?” —- ๐Ÿ™„ oh, brother!

    • 299 jacquelineoboomer
      May 3, 2012 at 12:27 am

      I’m recording it but didn’t see it yet. He didn’t actually ask that singing question, did he? Ohmigod.

      • 300 lisalovesobama
        May 3, 2012 at 12:31 am

        At this point, look out for Mrs. ex G-Friend to make a surprise appearance on his show. Oh the questions we can look forward to him asking. Piers Morgan, Rated R. ๐Ÿ™„ can’t stand him.

        • 301 jacquelineoboomer
          May 3, 2012 at 12:33 am

          Wonder what his ratings are like. I can barely get past 10 minutes watching him on other nights. He’s so creepy and slimy.

          • 302 lisalovesobama
            May 3, 2012 at 12:36 am

            Oh, I never watch him unless someone close to PBO is his guest. Can’t stomach that creep.

            • 303 jacquelineoboomer
              May 3, 2012 at 12:54 am

              Me, too. In fact, I just started watching my recording, saw the President’s lovely sister, remembered your comments, and flipped the channel. Maybe I’ll find a written transcript of what she said. I couldn’t get through his awful snarkiness – even on the first couple of questions. Not going to do that to myself.

              • 304 lisalovesobama
                May 3, 2012 at 12:57 am

                PBO’s sis was lovely and accomplished though. It might be worth it to grimace your way through his bull. She’s very smart and funny.

                • 305 jacquelineoboomer
                  May 3, 2012 at 1:10 am

                  Maybe tomorrow! Thanks. Just not in the mood for negative tonight. ๐Ÿ™‚

                • 306 jacquelineoboomer
                  May 3, 2012 at 2:19 am

                  lisa – thanks for the encouragement, because I just finished watching PBO’s sister and she was just great. In this case, HE’s the one who should feel proud! Goodnight.

    • 307 LunarSea
      May 3, 2012 at 12:31 am

      NOOOO say it ain’t so! He didn’t actually ask those questions, did he?

  83. 310 lisalovesobama
    May 3, 2012 at 12:24 am

    And to cap it all off, Piers asks the inevitable birther question: ” was he born” in another country?
    Ps- Piers’ stupidity didn’t detract from how awesome Auma is. What a committed and honorable woman she is.

    • 311 CBO
      May 3, 2012 at 12:31 am

      Take it easy on Piers.

      He can be an ass (most of the times) but at least he’s willing to have on PBO’s sister, and let us get to know her – and him, through her eyes – which is always a great thing because we get to learn more about him from another perspective.

      • 312 lisalovesobama
        May 3, 2012 at 12:44 am

        ” Take it easy on Piers”——- thanks but no thanks. That creep can go suck it. There is no intrinsic good in his interviewing Auma. He’s a creep who is aching to get close to PBO and if he has to give 20 minutes of his show per family member to shore up credit with PBO so that PBO remembers him for possible future interviews, he’ll stand on his head to do it. He’s a ridiculous. But thanks for the advice, though.

        • 313 CBO
          May 3, 2012 at 3:06 am

          >>>>”There is no intrinsic good in his interviewing Auma. ”

          You mean, other than Auma?
          Surely that’s something good other than that.
          How many other forums and opportunities do you get to hear from Obama’s extended family and stories of his past like that?

          NOt to give Piers any credit (especially for the questions) but he DID give her an interview unlike other primetime shows, and for the most part he was respectful with her and towards Obama.
          Say what you will about him or his past or his ties to Murdoch, but at the very least he does exhibit some level of respect for the person of the president and even his achievements.

          It really doesn’t do you any good espousing so much loathing and hatred for another human being, even if they are
          Repub, or Conservative.

          Otherwise you’re no better than them and their unbridled hatred for the president which as we all know is based on you-know-what.

          • 314 lisalovesobama
            May 3, 2012 at 8:17 am

            At first, I wasn’t going to respond to you, but then I thought better of it, because, well, I’m not one to let an insult go and turn the other cheek. There was nothing intrinsically good in his interviewing The President of The United State’s sister. He didn’t do it because he heard her story and was fascinated by her, he did it because she is his sister. I don’t give Piers any credit, and I certainly don’t don’t respect him. The fact that you feel that you’re lofty enough to ‘dress me down’ because you are such a superlative human being who doesn’t “espouse loathing and hatred” —-two words that mean the same thing by the way, and because I’m obviously no better than the right wing who hates PBO, is in fact quite laughable. How long have you been creeping around in the shadows, waiting to deliver those lines? Obviously not long enough. You should have bided your time some more and come up with a better response to make me feel bad about anything I’ve said, including about that ass, Piers Morgan. Nice try, though, CBO. Nice try. :smirk:

            • 315 edp4bho
              May 3, 2012 at 9:34 am

              Major fist bump !!

            • 316 CBO
              May 3, 2012 at 9:58 am

              For someone who has the word “loves” in their name, you certainly do miss the entire point of the concept when it comes to other human beings.

              -I wasn’t trying to dress you down. Merely giving you advice on having less hatred for other human beings.
              -I didn’t say you are no better than Right Wingers who hate PBO.
              I said irrationally hating a person like Piers would make you no better than them in this regard when they do so based on his skin ccolor and his history, and I stand by that.
              – That you’re reduced to giving me vocabulary advice (thanks by the way, next time I’ll remember to have my Thesaurus open, so as not to offend you with my “lofty” ways) says a lot about the substance of your argument (or lack thereof).
              You might as well have spell-checked me.
              -I wasn’t trying to make you feel bad, but if it’s important for you to take it that way then I can’t really help you in that regard.

              I’m glad I was able to hear from Auma and hear her perspective on her brother, irregardless of the fact that it was on Piers show and irregardless of what he’s true motivations may have been.
              At least I can say that I was able to focus on that positive part of her interview rather than on hating on Piers which seems pointless to me, and rather counter to what Obama himself stands for.
              And I’m also glad to say that at least I’m a big enough person to be able to give other human beings credit for being respectful towards the president and his family like Piers was in this interview irregardless of any misgivings I may have about his other stances towards the president at other times.
              It is possible to walk and chew gum at the same time and to hold to seemingly conflicting thoughts in one’s head.

              If you choose to take that as an insult or a slam against you, then that’s your problem and yours alone.
              You seem to have a lot of angst in your life that makes you think you have to be prickly and abrasive towards other people and I want no part of that.
              I gave you advice; you rejected it and proceeded to mock me or try to.
              Clearly we’re never going to agree on this.

              Let’s move on.
              At least I am

              • 317 lisalovesobama
                May 3, 2012 at 10:49 am

                I see you are back for more. I would have thought my response was enough. Apparently not. I love how you protest too much….. really stop it. You aren’t helping yourself. If you had just respectfully disagreed, this whole thing wouldn’t have been a problem. Obviously you are forgetting that this is the internet, therefore there is a trail. You call this–” It really doesnโ€™t do you any good espousing so much loathing and hatred for another human being, even if they are Repub, or Conservative. Otherwise youโ€™re no better than them and their unbridled hatred for the president which as we all know is based on you-know-what.” —advice? Honey, take my advice and keep it to yourself.
                I always try to maintaining the peace and even when others deserve it, I hold back on the venom (I think that’s the word you’ve been searching for) and out of respect for this space, I typically ignore it or go for mild reproof. My response earlier this morning was an example of the latter. You are totally right, we will never agree on the fact that Piers Morgan is an absolute ass who is a Murdoch stooge. Stating that I possibly have a lot of angst in my life (good for you), doesn’t really help your cause either. What exactly do you think it says about you that you’re all hot under the collar when I make a valid statement about Piers Morgan? Are your Piers Morgan? Are you his publicist? His mama? what? My opinion is that he’s an ass, yours is that he’s a gift. There’s no need to to make it personal. He’s a pubic figure and we’re both entitled to our own opinions about him and his credibility.
                Hint of advice– since you’re so big on it– engage me in substantive arguments, leave out the insults. it doesn’t suit you and you aren’t very good at it. While I don’t claim to be angsty, nor do I believe that I have more problems than anyone else, I do claim to be a major, Grade A bitch and I’m damned good at it. Don’t sink to my level. It doesn’t look good on you and it doesn’t work. But thanks for the work-out. It’s a very difficult road to thread between bitchiness and diplomacy and I do believe I’ve pulled it off quite well.

                • 318 CBO
                  May 3, 2012 at 4:04 pm

                  >>>>”Apparently not. I love how you protest too much….. really stop itโ€ฆ.If you had just respectfully disagreed, this whole thing wouldn’t have been a problem.”

                  – Protesting what?
                  AndI was pretty certain that I had stopped it and had respectfully disagreed (or at least offered as per the third to last line of that last post) but evidently you don’t seem to know what the expression “respectfully disagree” means..

                  >>>>” I always try to maintaining the peace and even when others deserve it,”

                  – I think you meant to say “โ€ฆtry to maintain the peace even when others DON’T deserve it.”, but who am I with my poor English to know, right? Besides which, correcting other people’s grammar and vocabulary online even when you understand what they meant to says such a low-level form of argumentation, so let’s not
                  Also, if this is what it’s like when you’re “trying to maintain the peace”, then I ‘d hate to know what it’s like when you’re trying to start a fight.

                  >>>>”I hold back on the venom (I think that’s the word you’ve been searching for)”

                  – No, that’s not the word I was searching for – but once again, thanks with the completely unnecessary and completely pointless vocabulary lessons.

                  >>>>”What exactly do you think it says about you that you’re all hot under the collar when I make a valid statement about Piers Morgan?”

                  – Compare my responses to yours and tell me who seems “hot under the collar”.
                  In any case, my disagreement simply means that I am capable of seeing people in more than one-light and as more than card-board caricatures and black-and-white simplistic good-or-bad persons.
                  Unlike some.

                  >>>>”Are your Piers Morgan? Are you his publicist? His mama? what? My opinion is that he’s an ass, yours is that he’s a gift.”

                  – The answer to all those questions is a no. Obviously.
                  And it’s not my opinion that he’s a gift.
                  It’s my opinion that while he can tend to be an obnoxious individual with questionable ties to despicable people, he is capable of doing the odd thing such as respecting the president (even when others do not) and extending that same respect too relatives and friends and supporters of the president and even having them on his show – which is what I appreciate.
                  Naturally you take that to mean that I like him without reservations, which doesn’t surprise me one bit.

                  Since you brought up the issue of who I am, I’m going to break a personal rule of never revealing any information about myself online, just to let you know what a gigantic ass you’re making of yourself, right now.

                  No I’m not Piers’, nor his mom, or agent.
                  What I am is a Kenyan – born and raised – and not just that but also from the same ethnic group or tribe as Obama’s father came from – the Luo – and consequently from the same part of the country in Western Kenya.
                  In fact my maternal grandparents came from the same sub-clan group and lived in the same are as his living step-grandmother currently lives before they both passed.
                  So you can imagine my personal pride in Obama goes beyond just the 8 years that most people here have known him.

                  Furthermore, myself, along with 30 or so odd million Kenyans have had to watch the last 5 years with a mixture of pride in Obama and dismay in the general discourse of American politics as the word ‘Kenyan’ was turned into an ugly word and as the Republicans tried to turn his connection to Africa and specifically to Kenya into a despicable thing.

                  So imagine my surprise upon coming to a place where I had hoped to find Democrats or Liberals with a more fair-minded perspective and tolerant view and hopefully more mature perspective embodying the same sort of positive and let-live attitude that our president exhibits only to find you.

                  But please do go ahead and keep making fun of me, someone you know nothing of, and have to respect for.
                  It comes so easy for people for whom the world is simply black and white within greys.

                  >>>>”There’s no need to to make it personal.”

                  – You mean like asking me if I’m Piers (whom you hate) or his agent or mother?
                  That kind of personal?
                  Or did you mean another kind?

                  >>>>”Hint of advice– since you’re so big on it– engage me in substantive arguments,

                  – Sure and when do you plan to start?
                  With the substantive arguments bit, I mean.

                  >>>>”โ€ฆ. leave out the insults.”

                  – I’m not really sure you can tell the difference between the 2 (insults and substantive arguments)

                  >>>>”it doesn’t suit you and you aren’t very good at it.”

                  – It’s not something I’m aspiring to, so we can all rest easy on that front.

                  >>>>”While I don’t claim to be angsty, nor do I believe that I have more problems than anyone else, I do claim to be a major, Grade A bitch and I’m damned good at it.”

                  – No arguments from me on that score.
                  But nonetheless, congratulations (clap clap clap) on your great achievement of being the Grade A bitch you so aspire to be and being so good at it.

                  >>>>” It doesn’t look good on you and it doesn’t work.”

                  – Again, I agree on both accounts.
                  It doesn’t look good (on anyone, frankly) and mostly doesn’t work.
                  Other than making the person doing it seem terribly immature and childish, that is.
                  But what do I know?
                  I’m not the expert.

                  >>>>”But thanks for the work-out.”

                  – If that’s what you were seeking then I’m glad for you that you got it.

                  >>>>” It’s a very difficult road to thread between bitchiness and diplomacy and I do believe I’ve pulled it off quite well.”

                  – I love the fact that that’s an achievement you think is worth being proud of at any level, even though I’m not really sure what it is you think you achieved since you don’t seem like someone who would know what diplomacy is if it smacked you in the head.
                  Certainly not on the evidence of anything you wrote on here or were trying to argue.
                  But Congratulations nonethelessโ€ฆ..on pullingโ€ฆoffโ€ฆwhatever it is you think you pulled off.

                  Don’t bother responding with a long diatribe of Heaven knows what other achievement in bitchiness you want to boast about. I’m done with this line of argument and won’t waste time reading it.
                  I relayed what I wanted to say, and now that I’m fully aware of the level of maturity I’m dealing with here, I’m saddened that I’ve already expended as much time and effort as I have and will rectify it by actually moving on this time.

                  Good luck with your future endeavours and battles and ‘work-outs’,, as the case may be.

                  • 319 lisalovesobama
                    May 3, 2012 at 4:45 pm

                    Obviously this isn’t going to end until I take the high road. I didn’t bother to read your response, well, because it’s likely crap and because I finished this conversation hours ago. But since you feel you must defend Piers to the very end, this is me taking the high road…………………………

      • 320 lamh35
        May 3, 2012 at 8:46 am

        Pier Morgan is a despicable tabloid journalist from UK. Who managing editor for the same mag run by the Murdoch clan inEngland that’s on trial now. In fact there is some talk that Piers may have also been a part of the hacking scandal, but got out before the real shut hit the fans. He know Rupert Murdoch and was personally hired by him to run the crappiest of tabloids. Look up Piers Morgan & Madonna. Piers Morgan is scum & there is no reason to “go easy on him” plz learn something.

        • 321 CBO
          May 3, 2012 at 4:13 pm

          I don’t need to learn anything.
          I said what I said and I meant it.

          I know who Piers is and what his past connections are, but I’m also capable of accepting and appreciating the fact taht even people whom we deem to be “despicable” are capable of doing the odd good thing now and then.

          Having Auma – Obama’s elder half-sister – on his show, and treating her with respect while allowing her a forum to not only speak proudly of her brother while giving some exposure to the charitable organizations she stands for, counts as a good thing in my book – and one that I’m willing to acknowledge, appreciate and applaud.

          If you don’t like the fact that I did it , then tough.

  84. 323 lisalovesobama
    May 3, 2012 at 12:26 am

    ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜† —– Piers ^ickhead is gonna have W aka Shrub on his shoe tomorrow. What an asshat. ๐Ÿ™„

    • 324 amk for obama
      May 3, 2012 at 12:34 am

      ‘shrub on his shoe” – sounds just about right.

    • 327 isonprize
      May 3, 2012 at 12:43 am

      oooh, a great excuse to post this!!! The last time Pres G.W. Bush was in Iraq!! What a difference a term makes!! Don’t worry, NO TRANSLATION IS NEEDED!! ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜†

      • 328 0388jojothecat
        May 3, 2012 at 12:52 am

        Secret Service was kinda slow getting to Shrub….must of been one of the partiers.

      • 329 lisalovesobama
        May 3, 2012 at 12:55 am

        ๐Ÿ˜† this was funny in a sad way. Funny cause he deserved it, but sad because it illustrates how low we had sunk in other people’s estimation.

      • 330 jacquelineoboomer
        May 3, 2012 at 12:55 am

        I think I remember the setting, so I don’t need to click on that video. I could not care less about the actual target, but what an embarrassment to the office of the presidency.

        • May 3, 2012 at 5:37 am

          Agreed. I think this was during the ’08 election, so, it really just proved to the American people how low he had sunk.

          I’ll give Bush credit, tho, he knew how to duck – unlike Reagan.

      • 332 LunarSea
        May 3, 2012 at 7:28 am

        I remember that all too well. I was so embarrassed to think what the presidency (and by extension others’ vision of America) had become.

        But here’s the rub, and don’t get mad, but as much as I hated Bush, I was upset that he didn’t have better protection. He was still our president (albeit more like a reviled and embarrassing relative) my reaction was a gasp and a ‘oh no he didn’t’ at the shoe thrower, regardless of how undeserving of the title Bush was.

        I really bought into the ‘once the President leaves our shores we put our differences aside and stand as one’ that has disappeared from today’s GOP lexicon.

        Which is why I will never understand those who hate PBO for changing that image around the world.

        • 333 isonprize
          May 3, 2012 at 10:34 am

          LunarSea, I was pissed that the protection for POTUS (any POTUS, yes that includes Pres. Bush) wasn’t better. I mean, dude had a chance to throw TWO shoes!!

          I also have to admit, I was also pretty impressed that Dubya moved as quickly as he did. He was in pretty good physical shape to move out of the way as fast as he did.

  85. 334 amk for obama
    May 3, 2012 at 12:40 am

  86. 336 0388jojothecat
    May 3, 2012 at 12:57 am

    West Coaster here and the 30 Rock Special on the killing of OBL is just about over. I came in late so I hope it’s replayed over the weekend.

    • 337 lisalovesobama
      May 3, 2012 at 12:59 am

      I wish I lived on the west coast, especially Cali. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

      • 338 0388jojothecat
        May 3, 2012 at 1:05 am

        Hi lisalovesobama,

        I thought you were on the west coast. You must be a night owl who likes to stay up late because sometimes you are one of last ones on here at night/early morning.

        • 339 lisalovesobama
          May 3, 2012 at 1:08 am

          I know! But my bedtime is 1:45 on weeknights so I try to live it up as much as possible! ๐Ÿ˜†

          • 340 0388jojothecat
            May 3, 2012 at 1:33 am

            Almost your bedtime….night night Lisalovesobama, see you tomorrow for another TOD day.

  87. 341 Bill R.
    May 3, 2012 at 1:23 am

    Yes, another poster here from the West Coast. I saw the Situation Room special. What came through is what a mature, decisive man we have as president. And he is clearly respected by those who work with him on the national security team. PBO has tremendous interior grounding that allows him to move through all the situations and enormous responsibilities of the presidency with equanimity and wisdom.

    • 342 0388jojothecat
      May 3, 2012 at 1:35 am

      Hi Bill R, yes in deed…I am so proud of PBO he is the right man for our country, a man with nerves of steel.

  88. 343 jacquelineoboomer
    May 3, 2012 at 1:45 am

    Not sure if this has been posted yet:

    Obama’s Composite Girlfriend: How Politico and Drudge Created Fake News


    May 3, 2012 at 6:59 am


    • 345 jackiegrumbacher
      May 3, 2012 at 7:28 am

      Sue, your generous heart is an inspiration to all of us. Can’t tell you how much I admire you. Have a wonderful day and I hope you mom has a terrific time!

  90. May 3, 2012 at 7:40 am

    I’m not sure why there is animosity toward one woman in the Vanity Fair article and not the other (I don’t think there should be name calling of these women at all). There were two. The one, Alex, provided the President’s letters to her and the other, Genevieve, excerpts from her own diary. I do agree that in a previous age that these insights would have been provided on their deathbeds for posterity or old age. I found the article fascinating. I’m glad that the historian has decided to wait to do his history of the President’s run for and job as President. That’s why I never bought the ‘Year One’ or ‘Year Two’ books about the President’s term. Too soon to provide the detached historical perspective I think a true history requires.

  91. 348 LDS
    May 3, 2012 at 1:32 pm

    I can’t help thinking ……..Why the TWO women did this now? Why now? Four years ago they could have sold their souls to Vanity Fair and be done with it. Why now? One we know who comes from a rich family does and does not need the money, so what is her purpose? The other we do not know about her family heritage so we can assume it was for both money and fame.

    I can’t help thinking…..Why this bothers me so much that I had to express my opinion(which I am entitled to) here on this blog. And the one thing is that I prayed, God this cannot be a woman’s scorn bs…after all these years. What is the motive behind all of this? If either of these women really loved this young man like they claimed, 1. They would have kept this and taken these tender moments to their graves. 2. Mailed all the letters and diaries to the President and let him dispose or do whatever he felt was right by them.

    I can’t help thinking…..How the girls would feel knowing this at this tender age of puberty and teenage. Why now maybe Michelle probably would ask while they are coming into full swing campaign mode.
    So I concluded jealousy, envy, feeling left out, I missed my chance, could have been me, what if, why not me, etc.

    And as intelligent as they want us to believe they were, and I am sure they are but selling those private moments to a magazine, any magazine makes them seem very sad women, weak women, cannot let go of the past women. The key word here is ex- girlfriend. They were not meant to be in this man’s destiny. So be grateful that he shared a part of him, his thoughts, his kindness and generosity with you and close that chapter of your lives. And if that is still difficult to do, replay the dance of the Inauguration with his wife Michelle the song said it all……AT LAST!

    Oh, and love has no color, Ms. Cook. Your prophecy meant nothing because you sold your soul for money you do not need. and if you think for one moment that I think you beleve you have the gift of prophesy, I refer you to Scripture 1Corinthians 13. That is what love is. All the excuses and reasons that you will conjure in your intelligent mind means nothing if you do not have class and back it up with love.

    And by the way, you can throw away his sweater…..it is over!. I am sure Mich got rid of yours years go. Bo probably has it in his quarters.
    See, you did make it to the WH after all.

    • 349 L3
      May 3, 2012 at 4:33 pm

      They were asked by the author, David Maraniss, who has been working on an encyclopedic biography of PBO since he was elected, maybe even before. Now, they did not have to cooperate but to answer your question why now it’s because the book will be released soon.

  92. 350 LDS
    May 3, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    I understand. But they could have declined.
    Am I wrong in thinking that a biography is after your body has transitioned from physical to spirit? There are more chapters to come. Isn’t there?
    Anyway, I would rather read it from POB. A man who is not ashame to admit that he prays often. It is evident that he practice what he prays.
    But thank you for the information.

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