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USA Today: President Obama, facing political problems over high gas prices, will announce a plan today “to increase oversight and crack down on manipulation in oil markets,” the White House announced.

“At a time when American consumers are feeling pain at the pump, it is critically important to ensure that illegal manipulation, fraud and market rigging are not contributing to gas price increases,” said the announcement.

Obama, along with Attorney General Eric Holder, is scheduled to discuss the plan at 11:10 a.m.

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ThinkProgress: …. For most women, Romney maintains that a choice to work or to stay at home with the kids should be regarded as equally valid, his campaign made clear last week. But for poor women who receive government assistance, staying home is not an option — they should work….

A passage from Romney’s book, No Apology: The Case For American Greatness, elaborates on this. In it, he argues that children of “nonworking parents” will be conditioned to have “an indolent and unproductive life”…

…. While Romney’s sentiment is understandable and common among conservatives, it doesn’t fit easily with his view that all “all moms are working moms”…. If nonworking mothers on welfare produce “indolent and unproductive” children, then why doesn’t the same hold true for other women?

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First Lady Michelle Obama participates in a Joining Forces event at the Jacksonville Naval Air Station, April 12 (Photo by Lawrence Jackson)

12:00 ET: Michelle Obama delivers remarks at a Democratic National Committee event in Nashville.

3:30: Michelle Obama arrives in Pittsburgh where she will be greeted by service members and their families from the 911th Airlift Wing of the Air Force Reserve Command and the 171st Air Refueling Wing.

4:30: Michelle Obama delivers remarks at a Democratic National Committee event in Pittsburgh.

6:00: Michelle Obama delivers remarks at a Democratic National Committee event in Pittsburgh.

7:45: VP Joe Biden attends a campaign event in D.C.




NYT: A year ago, few people outside the world of state legislatures had heard of the American Legislative Exchange Council, a four-decade-old organization run by right-wing activists and financed by business leaders. The group writes prototypes of state laws to promote corporate and conservative interests and spreads them from one state capital to another.

The council, known as ALEC, has since become better known, with news organizations alerting the public to the damage it has caused: voter ID laws that marginalize minorities and the elderly, antiunion bills that hurt the middle class and the dismantling of protective environmental regulations.

Now it’s clear that ALEC, along with the National Rifle Association, also played a big role in the passage of the “Stand Your Ground” self-defense laws around the country…..

That was apparently the last straw for several prominent corporations that had been financial supporters of ALEC. In recent weeks, McDonald’s, Wendy’s, Intuit, Mars, Kraft Foods, Coca-Cola and PepsiCo have stopped supporting the group, responding to pressure from activists and consumers who have formed a grass-roots counterweight to corporate treasuries. That pressure is likely to continue as long as state lawmakers are more responsive to the needs of big donors than the public interest.

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President Barack Obama and President Juan Manuel Santos of Colombia participate in a presentation of land titles to the Afro-Colombian community at the Plaza de San Pedro in Cartagena, Colombia, April 15, 2012. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)


Charles Pierce: ….. Not to put too fine a point on it, but the Republican party, root and branch, from its deepest grass roots to its highest levels, has become completely demented. This does not mean that it is incapable of winning elections; on the contrary, the 2010 midterms, as well as the statewide elections around the country, ushered in a class of politicians so thoroughly dedicated to turning nonsense into public policy that future historians are going to marvel at our ability to survive what we wrought upon ourselves.

It is now impossible to become an elected Republican politician in this country if, for example, you believe in the overwhelming scientific consensus that exists behind the concept of anthropogenic global warming. Just recently, birth control, an issue most people thought pretty well had been settled in the 1960s, became yet another litmus test for Republican candidates, as did the Keystone XL pipeline, to which every Republican presidential candidate pledged unyielding fealty despite the fact that several prairie Republicans and an army of conservative farmers and ranchers are scared to death of the thing…..

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Morning everyone (again) 😉

202 Responses to “rise and shine”

  1. April 17, 2012 at 9:34 am

    That Charles Pierce article ia fantastic I was going to put up a link to it, but am glad you already did.

    This part tells it all:

    Since we have determined through the years that we shall have two and only two political parties in this country, the irrationality of one of them is such a grave threat to good governance that the other party has an affirmative obligation to the country to make the irrational party pay such a fearsome price for its indulgent eccentricity that it must reform itself or risk permanent irrelevance. Unfortunately, that task falls to the other creaky vehicle, the Democratic party, which has proven spectacularly ill suited to it.

    • 18 EricFive
      April 17, 2012 at 9:59 am

      The public is getting sick of GOP games and antics. They have overplayed their hand. However, the MSM is still making the truth of the GOP obstructionism unnecessarily hard for the large segement of the public that is not as “tuned in” to the political scene. Case in point, most of the MSM has headlline that “the Senate blocked the Buffet rule” rather than clearly stating that Senate Republicans blocked the Buffet rule. Since each party only had one defector, it would make sense to clearly lay blame where it belongs. The MSM can only blame the Democrats by themselves. The MSM cannot blame the GOP without also throwing some criticism at the Democrats (justified or not). Corporate ownership of the Media is the greatest threat to this country. They willfully misinform the public and carry water for the GOP which allows the GOP’s irrational and dishonest behavior to remain unknown to a large segment of public. Thankfully more and more people no longer trust the MSM and are catching on to the games they play.

      • April 17, 2012 at 10:05 am

        Here is the key line in what you wrote:

        Since each party only had one defector, it would make sense to clearly lay blame where it belongs.

        Therefore, obviously,there was bipartisan opposition. Or at leasst that is how it would be played.

        In terms of the Republican turncoat, it is still a Democratic proposal, and that turncoat doesn’t count.

        • 20 EricFive
          April 17, 2012 at 10:19 am

          These are just semantic games the MSM plays to cover the GOP when they take unpopular positions. If the Buffet rule had been unpopular with the public, the headlines would be “GOP defeats unpopular Buffet rule”. The game is fixed and the MSM will use any excuse to protect the GOP.

      • 21 4morefor44
        April 17, 2012 at 10:06 am

        exactly!! thanks for this.

    • 22 4morefor44
      April 17, 2012 at 10:05 am

      pierce sure has a way with words and i like when he turns that talent toward republicans, but i don’t like the last part of that quote, which reflects a lot of his attitude. the democratic party, for the most part, has been good at messaging and more importantly has been good at getting real, tangible results whenever they are in power. the problem is the major media outlets keeping what they say and their accomplishments from public view, while at the same time promoting republican talking points every single day and night of every year.

      pierce and so many others unfortunately promote the “they both suck, but in different ways” nonsense, while the real culprit in all this which is the MSM, happily continues to play along with the “they both suck, lesser of two evils” lies. i’d love to see liberals stop bashing the democratic party as equally as the republican party, and start promoting all the good democrats do instead, and build upon that those good accomplishments.

      • April 17, 2012 at 10:10 am

        Actually, although there is some truth in what you say, his main complaint about the Dems is that they tend to play defense and not go on offense. And over the decades, this has been true, in my opinion. I always go back to the 12988 campaign, when Bush the Elder keptr talking about the “L” word when talking about Dukakis. What did Dukakis do? He had a picture taken of him in a tank, trying to show his machoness instead of going after Bush’s dismissal of liberalism. He din’t get out there and talk about being proud of being a liberal. He didn’t get out there and attack Bush for repressive conservative values.

        PBO, both in 2008 and this year is taking it to the Republicans. However, if the rest of the Dems don;t do the same thing, it may not matter where it counts, the down ticket reaces.

        • 24 Bill
          April 17, 2012 at 10:43 am

          Japa, looking back to 1988 do you believe that it would have been an effective campaign strategy to have run as a “proud liberal”? As I remember the times the perception was that Democrats were too far left and needed to come back towards the center to win. Clinton won in 1992 running back to the center.

          Yes the Democrats have made mistakes as parties always do, but with the emergence of the religious right and the cult of Ronald Reagan a sharp run to the left would have been a huge risk particularly in the south and midwest.

          The Democratic Party is a big tent and with a low information electorate, the religious right, and the mainstream corporate wing of the Republican Party it is not an easy battle.

          • April 17, 2012 at 10:50 am

            Yes, if it had been done smartly. I always thought Dukakis should have stood up and said something like:

            Bush appears to have a problem even saying the word liberal. Well, I don’t.
            If being a liberal means caring about all the people in this country, not just the privileged view, then I am proud to call myself a liberal.
            If being a liberal means making sure Americans can earn a fair wage for a day’s work, then I am proud to be a liberal.
            If being a liberal means hoping that all our children have an opportunity to grow up with a world class education, then I am proud to be a liberal.
            If being a liberal means that our elderly and disabled do not have to worry about where their next meals are coming from, then I am proud to be a liberal.
            If being a liberal means that justice is for all, not just the privileged few, then I am proud to be a liberal.
            If being a liberal means and you can add your own phrases.

            Yes, I think it would have worked. Dukakis was not the best candidate, but it was really then that Dems viewed being seen as a liberal as a bad thing instead of using it to their advantage.

            • April 17, 2012 at 10:53 am

              To clarify just a bit more. The Republicans used the word liberal as a synonym for socialist and communist. And b y not defending liberalism, the Dems, in effect, ceded tham that ground. That is really why liberal stopped being used and the term progressive came into vogue once again. But the Republicans basically said a progressive was merely a liberal in sheep’s clothing,a nd again, Dems didn’t fight back against that argument and go on the offensive.

            • 27 Bill
              April 17, 2012 at 11:05 am

              I agree with you completely about the meaning of the word liberal, but especially in the south, where I live, from a campaign perspective it was a pejorative word in 1988. I do not remember Clinton screaming he was a liberal or for that matter PBO. It seems to me to be more effective to promote good policies than to promote labels. The word liberal is still a loser in the south and midwest. The objective is to win elections and then try to legislate good policy not tp prove a point and to lose the election. I think the key to PBO’s success is focusing on policy not labels.

              • April 17, 2012 at 11:17 am

                Dukakis wasn’t going to win the South no matter what he said or did. And by 92, the Dems had already given up any chnace to redeem the word. I agfree policy is what matters, but again, my whole point is that since 1988, and actually 1980, the Dems have allowed ther Republicans to define the playing field and maybe, if Dukakis ahd led the charge against that labeling, it might not have become so one way. Because, since then, the RW has basically been able to use the word socialism as a perjorative against all Dems, to the point that most people don’t even know the meaning of the word, or they would know that the Dems are anybody but socialists.

                • 29 Bill
                  April 17, 2012 at 11:36 am

                  Dukakis was a week candidate and had little chance of winning. I don’t believe by claiming he was a liberal would have changed the outcome. In what states would that have changed the outcome?

                  Democrats need some southern states and midwest states to win the general presidential election. To you point, if the word “liberal” is misunderstood by the unwashed why use it? The more the country can get away from defining things by a few labels the better we will be.

                  • April 17, 2012 at 12:26 pm

                    I agree with you but I am not sure you are udnerstadnign what I am saying. It is not that Dukakis would have won the election. It is that Dems have consistently, when under attack, run away from their strong points. They let Republican charges of the evils of liberalism go unanswered. The response was to avoid using the term and run to the center rather than standing up and being proud to be what they were and define the terms themselves, not let the RW get away with defining the terms. The same thing happened in 2010, when Dem candidates ran away from ACA rather than going out there and defending it.

                    When you are attacked and you don’t respond to that attack, then you are telling the world that the attcak has merit. This is what Dems are notorious for and why Pierce said what he did.

                • 31 4morefor44
                  April 17, 2012 at 12:01 pm

                  republicans can keep using words like liberal and socialist as a negative because they own all the biggest media outlets. in talking bout the 1980s, they already decided to make rush limbaugh a major force (his show didn’t make money for years just like the first several years of fox news), yet they still spent millions putting them everywhere. don henley wrote the song “dirty laundry” in 1982. it’s interesting to watch on youtube debates and news clips from 1984 and the like, and you can see how the insidious messaging was already taking hold. the fix was on in earnest long before dukakis (and really goes back a 100 years or more in terms of media and their anti-socialist messaging).

                  democrats and their messaging, whether good or bad, are not the problem. republicans and the media they control are. let’s keep the focus on that.

  2. 34 Pamela
    April 17, 2012 at 9:47 am

    Df, great post on the last thread, maybe it can come over here for another read? I share your view, as do many many others, I’m sure!

    • 35 desertflower
      April 17, 2012 at 9:53 am

      Thanks, Pamela:) I’ll bring it over…..

    • 36 desertflower
      April 17, 2012 at 9:55 am

      Here you go, love!


      Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney said he isn’t too rich to relate to average Americans and President Barack Obama should “start packing” for a White House departure in 2013.
      Romney made the remarks in an ABC News interview aired yesterday as Democrats accused him of running a secretive campaign and called on him to release more tax records.
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      Mitt Romney, accompanied by his wife Ann, at the National Rifle Association convention in St. Louis on April 13, 2012. Photographer: Michael Conroy/AP Photo
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      Beth Myers, campaign manager for Mitt Romney’s 2008 bid for the presidency, jokes with Carl Forti, political director in Boston in this April 27, 2007 file photo. Photographer: Elise Amendola/AP Photo
      Asked by ABC’s Diane Sawyer whether his wealth — including a planned car elevator that is part of a $12 million renovation at his beach home in La Jolla, California — prevents him from relating to most people, Romney said it shouldn’t.
      “We don’t divide America based upon success and wealth and other dimensions of that nature,” he said. “We’re one nation under God. This is a time when people of different backgrounds and different experiences need to come together.”

      Just a thought. SInce the RW is so fond of talking about freeloaders and using divisive language for their class warfare, I suggest that someone point out that these same very wealthy individuals that refuse to raise one more cent of revenue for the country to sustain itself in a healthy and safe manner, ARE THE FREELOADERS! They use the roads, bridges, air, water, trains, planes,schools,etc (mostly selling their wares….to continue ripping us off, AND getting richer) but they don’t want to pay their fair share! It is THEY that want something for nothing! It is THEY who are unpatriotic Americans that feel SO entitled to saddle the middle class with the bulk of the costs of the infrastructure of this country while they hide money in Grand Cayman and Swiss bank accounts…..showing the world that they feel entitled to special treatment that is not afforded the rest of the country! No one is denying them the fruits of their labors, though in Romney’s case, he inherited, then made more, by hurting American workers, and made money off his sheltered money.He is a TAKER…and to THIS day, still doesn’t have a job that has contributed one iota to the society he PRETENDS to care about! THEY are the freeloaders….and all the little RW sheeple, stand outside, looking in, agreeing with everything he says…pretending that SOME DAY, they could be just like him.

      • 37 Pamela
        April 17, 2012 at 10:02 am

        You are a rock star! 😉 Have a great day, will be back!

      • 38 anniebella
        April 17, 2012 at 11:19 am

        I have alot in common with Mitt Romney, my elevator for my cars is just about finish, and my kids have a 100 million dollars in their piggy bank overseas. And I don’t care about the poor either. Yes Mitt and I have alot in common.

        • 39 Bill
          April 17, 2012 at 12:09 pm

          Anniebella, maybe you can hire an unemployed mother to operate your car elevator and give her a little self esteem.

          • 40 anniebella
            April 17, 2012 at 12:59 pm

            Bill, I can do that, and I can hire someone to look after my dog, so that he doesn’t eat a turkey, or get on the roof of my car. And I can hire someone to landscape my yard, no illegal aliens, I might what to run for office one day. I already have a cook and maid. Oh yea, Mitt and Ann Romney and I have alot in common. You think they will want to come to the inner city and sit down and have dinner with me.

  3. April 17, 2012 at 9:49 am

    I never thought I see the day when Alec would be challenged. I hope that some of these think tanks will be targeted next.

  4. 42 desertflower
    April 17, 2012 at 9:50 am

    Repost from last thread (I was talking to myself….again!)


    It’s going to get worse! For Romney!

    • 43 EricFive
      April 17, 2012 at 10:12 am

      I agree DF. The more people get to know Mitt the LESS they like him. Another problem for Mitt is that he had to go to the extreme right to win the GOP nomination, which alienated women and independent voters. If Mitt attempts to court women and independents by moving to the center, he will lose his base, which never trusted him to begin with. He has no integrity and is the ultimate flip flopper, no one trusts or likes the guy. He is a seriously flawed candidate. I just hope he escapes the GOP convention with the nomination.

  5. April 17, 2012 at 9:50 am

    Priebus says, that an up for grab Arizona is a mirage.
    Well, when the head of the RNC has to come out and make a Statement on Arizona, then Messina did his Job!
    Good work!

    • 45 relellit
      April 17, 2012 at 10:13 am

      Priebus says a lot of far-fetched things. He’d better be glad Debbie Wasserman Schultz has responded to his projection yet.

  6. April 17, 2012 at 9:56 am

    Btw- the Robney Campaign has shown it’s hand. They are running Reagans Camapign of 1980. Basically, only focusing on the President and being vague about himself.
    Problem is, Carter at the time was dealing with the Iran Hostage situation, and people blamed him.
    I remember! Thus, if the Robney Campaign wants to demonize the President on the economy, at least the President has tools to fight back and a legislative record.
    On the other hand, the Media is not going to give Robney a free pass, due to his radical policies.
    You follow?

  7. April 17, 2012 at 9:58 am

    For all the brainpower the parties put into prepping their talking points, you’d think an election as significant as this one would yield the most finely crafted political spin. Instead, on the key issues of the season, Republicans are picking up Democratic attack lines and hurling them back where they came from, word for word.

    Democrats warn of GOP war against women. Mitt Romney, and the rest of the GOP, say the real aggressors in that war are President Obama and the Democrats. Democrats insist that Republicans want to end Medicare as we know it. Camp Romney says President Obama’s health care law will end Medicare as we know it. Democrats say House GOP budget fails the fundamental test of fairness. House GOP budget guru Paul Ryan fires back, “The President’s budget is not just a failure of math, but it also fails the fundamental test of fairness.”

    All that’s missing are press releases that scream, “I know you are but what am I?!” Call it the Pee Wee Herman election.


    • 48 relellit
      April 17, 2012 at 10:08 am

      Thanks Jovie for the link.

      Willard “Myth” Romney kinda reminds me of Pee Wee Herman with that nonsensical, nervous. laugh of his. 😆

  8. April 17, 2012 at 10:01 am

  9. 50 relellit
    April 17, 2012 at 10:02 am

    Good Morning Todville.
    It’s so great to check in to get the straight dope instead of all that noise the MSM gives. It’s so unsubstantial.

    LOL, Ann Romney thinks “I will say for me financial security has not been a huge issue. But that does not mean I’m not compassionate. It does not mean that I have not had different challenges. Everyone in life has their challenges, mine have not been financial.”


    That Cagle cartoon with Ann Romney and one of her servants sure says so. It put a smile on my face.

    Thank you Chips for posting it.

    Everybody have a great day. 🙂

  10. 51 desertflower
    April 17, 2012 at 10:04 am

    Who is this yahoo woman? “No personal responsibility?” Isn’t THAT calling the kettle black!


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  13. 54 Bill
    April 17, 2012 at 10:17 am

    Wonkette is reporting that The Donald is giving a fund raising birthday party for Mrs. Willard at Trump Tower.

    • 55 jacquelineoboomer
      April 17, 2012 at 11:01 am

      Willard better watch where The Donald has his hands, if he cares at all about little Mrs. Stay at Home, which I doubt. More important for him to get elected. It’s their “turn.”

    • 59 Mel
      April 17, 2012 at 11:49 am

      This guy is a piece of CACA Hispanics do not know who this M@#$%ER is and we dislike this asshole, he is a
      has been so Mitt is is the pype of supporter you want? you can have him, and will be see you In November Latinos
      for Obama all the way.

  14. 60 desertflower
    April 17, 2012 at 10:18 am



    Brought to us by the people that are “so concerned” about the nation’s debt. Yeah. Right.

    Just this single piece of Bush’s GOP agenda pushed through in the first term of his presidency — his tax cuts, enacted in 2001 and 2003 — have added more dollars to the nation’s debt and deficit than almost all of the rest of his horrible policy initiatives combined.
    His tax cuts ripped the heart out of the budget surplus that Bush inherited from president Bill Clinton when Dubya took office. This alone has cost our nation approximately $300 billion a year, according to the New York Times, whose study of the cuts led editors to conclude they “were the biggest single contributor to the deficit over the past decade.”
    The Bush tax cuts, together with a pair of recessions, two unpaid-for major wars and the all-but-forgotten puffball with which the GOP bribed senior voters in the form of the unfunded Medicare Part D program, were the fiscal centerpiece of the whole shebang of bad calls, rotten policy and terrible decision that put America $1.3 trillion in debt before President Barack Obama ever took office.
    And that’s not even the worst part about the Bush-Republican tax cuts, which Bush now wishes weren’t called by any part of his name.

    • 61 57andfemale
      April 17, 2012 at 12:27 pm

      Does someone have any recollection: the 2001 cuts were before 9/11(this I am sure of) and as I recall weren’t the 2003 cuts in response to the economic woes ’caused’ by 9/11 to stimulate the economy?

  15. 62 Debz
    April 17, 2012 at 10:21 am

    Hi all. I didn’t watch the Willard and Ann show yesterday but I read the transcript. If this was their way of introducing themselves to the general public, it was a disaster!! Just reading the words their entitlement jumped off the page.

  16. April 17, 2012 at 10:26 am

    That is Cool!!!

  17. 65 donna dem 4 obama
    April 17, 2012 at 10:28 am

    Good Morning All!

    I am standing in my office looking out the window as the shuttle discovery takes its final flight on top of a jumbo jet. It has passed over my building 3 times so far. It is one of the most awesome sights I have ever witness!!!!

    WASHINGTON — The space shuttle Discovery, NASA’s fleet leader and the world’s most flown spacecraft, lifted off for the last time on Tuesday to be delivered to the Smithsonian for its permanent display.


    • April 17, 2012 at 10:44 am

      I find it amazing that GA, SC and MT are only in the lean Romney category. And I bet, before this is over, a few of those solid Romney states will turn into lean Romney states. Looking at the toss-up states, i doubt that PBO will lose even 3 of them.

      • 71 Bill
        April 17, 2012 at 10:52 am

        Unless something changes I do not believe PBO will lose any of the toss-up states. Willard and Mrs. Willard are becoming less popular and more of a joke everyday.

        • April 17, 2012 at 10:56 am

          I can envision him losing AZ, MO and NH. But I can also see hime winning all three and even a couple of the lean Romney states, IN, GA and MT.

  18. April 17, 2012 at 10:34 am

    Luke Russert is terrible! For the sake of biased Journalism, They should Shit can his ass, right now! No Big loss…

    • 74 Bill
      April 17, 2012 at 11:52 am

      He reminds me of a frat guy who is impressed with himself because he reads a newspaper for something other than the sports page.

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  20. April 17, 2012 at 10:47 am

    The WH should wait til after the Shuttle lands to speak about oil Speculators
    But, chances are, they will not…

  21. April 17, 2012 at 10:48 am

    DCCC Outraises NRCC but has Less Money on Hand
    By Sean Sullivan
    April 17, 2012 | 10:23 AM
    The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee outraised the National Republican Congressional Committee during the first quarter of 2012, but the NRCC has more money in the bank.

    The DCCC raised $22.1 million to the NRCC’s $19.1 million during the first three months of the year. In March, the DCCC raised $9.8 million while the NRCC raised $9.3 million.

    The NRCC finished the period with $27.1 million in the bank while the DCCC ended the quarter with $22.8 million on hand.

  22. 88 Ladyhawke
    April 17, 2012 at 10:51 am


    Romney to Obama: Start Packing

    By Karoli


    When I first heard about this interview, I confess that my mind immediately heard the “start packing” as a suggestion that our President should carry a gun. Such are the impressions right-wing arrogant cynics leave on me, I’m afraid. Fortunately, Mittens was suggesting the Obamas should be packing their bags, with Ann helpfully adding that “it’s their turn now.”

    Such a sense of entitlement this candidate has. It’s the same arrogance that angered the farther-right wing supporters of Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich. That idea that Mitt is somehow owed the Presidency. That’s not playing all that well with voters, at least not as far as I can tell, and this CNN poll confirms it.

    Mitt Romney has an image problem he’s been trying to cure by using his wife to boost the “likability factor.” Unfortunately, Ann Romney revealed herself to be as nakedly ambitious and cynical as Mitt on Monday when she said the Hilary Rosen remarks were “an early birthday present”. She did try to walk that statement back during this interview by saying, oh no, she didn’t mean the divisiveness, just that it was great that people were “talking about it.”



    • 89 theo67
      April 17, 2012 at 1:40 pm

      So, we’re supposed to forgive Ann Romney her truthful, but inconvenient words, because she “didn’t mean it like that; but she’s still milking Hilary Rosen’s truthful, but inconvenient words which she didn’t mean “like that” either? The Romneys represent everything that is wrong in this country. Double-standards, elitist, above the law (and tax deadlines), heartless, fake-Christians, fake patriots.

  23. 90 Linda
    April 17, 2012 at 10:52 am


    Live streaming of the shuttle….they are following it

  24. 91 Ladyhawke
    April 17, 2012 at 10:54 am

    OMG, the sight of the space shuttle Discovery flight to Washington, D.C. is just breathtaking.

  25. 92 jacquelineoboomer
    April 17, 2012 at 10:55 am

    Ridiculous host on MSNBC just said the free-trade agreement was “overshadowed” by the Secret Service scandal in news coverage, and has the president of the AFL-CIO on now, to talk trash about President Obama.

    And that pretty much sums up the state of our news media, what wasn’t covered during the President’s trip, especially the part about how the rest of the world appreciates him, and how the unions (whom I know must be allowed to have their own agenda; whom I prize in general, and always will) may be counted among the Democrats’ fair-weather friends.

    So, I will mute ’em until cute Thomas Roberts appears on his show, to introduce President Obama, who is not only the only adult in the room, but also the only man in Washington, D.C., who is actually working for the people. Screw the MSM and the fair-weather-friendly AFL-CIO.

    • 93 Ladyhawke
      April 17, 2012 at 10:59 am

      It’s all tabloid all the time. Pathetic.

      • 94 jacquelineoboomer
        April 17, 2012 at 11:06 am

        Totally. We have watched the free fall of the free press in our country. Luckily, I have enough faith in America to know that members of the press will get off the bottom and rise to the top again – we just all have to remain vigilant and get the word out ourselves, in the meantime

        • 95 Ladyhawke
          April 17, 2012 at 11:18 am

          It is very frustrating that we have so many obstacles to getting the facts out. We have right wing radio, Fox, a feckless media that has abdicated their responsibility to educate the public with the facts, Koch Brothers, ALEC, Citizens United, Oil Industry, Lobbyists, Wall Street, Karl Rove, a do nothing Tea Party congress, on and on. But even with all of those obstacles, we are penetrating the media firewall. The word IS GETTING OUT. Voters are waking up. It’s taken longer than it should, but I’m glad the light bulbs are going off with the American people now. The timing is perfect. After obstructing, delaying and sabotaging the economic recovery the GOP now wants to be rewarded for doing absolutely nothing. They are in for a rude awakening. Their culture of viciousness needs to end. As my grandmother used to tell me “God don’t like ugly”.

          • 96 4morefor44
            April 17, 2012 at 11:44 am

            that sums everything up perfectly! fired up and ready to go!

          • April 17, 2012 at 11:51 am

            I have some good friends who are older Democrats and watch a lot of cable TV. They are always forwarding me hideous emails and asking me if they’re true. AS IF. I always respond with facts, analysis and dox but I’m just really shocked by how gullible they can be. People have a hard time believing that their tee vee would lie to them. But that’s just about all it’s good for these days.

            • 98 Ladyhawke
              April 17, 2012 at 12:33 pm

              One of my favorite sources of information is Stephanie Cutter’s tip sheets from the Truth Team. It’s another great way to get the facts out to family and friends.

    • April 17, 2012 at 11:02 am

      The unions have an understandable paranoia about free-trade agreements, considering how, beginning with NAFTA through the Bush presidency, they have suffered under the terms. PBO has tried very hard to put in conditions in all the new agreemnets taht make them more US friendly and particualrly union friendly. It is just that, once you have been burned several times, you get wary of anything that looks like it might be hot. Once these agreements have been in place for a while, you will see them change as the advantages become know.

      Nonetheless, the unions also realize they would be in far worse shape under a Republican administration and will support PBO and the Dems to the hilt.

      • 100 jacquelineoboomer
        April 17, 2012 at 11:09 am

        I agree, and understand why and when the unions speak out. I was just momentarily annoyed by Trumka, because it all feeds into the MSM anti-Obama narrative.

      • April 17, 2012 at 11:12 am

        I don’t mind certain groups expressing discontent and concerns but Trumpka asking if Pres. Obama is still on the side of the 99% is just bonkers. So are gay groups or liberal pundits asking when Pres.Obama is going to take a stand on gay rights. Seriously?

  26. April 17, 2012 at 11:00 am

    Good morning, TODville!! Great round-up of everything that’s important, Chips. YOU WIN.

  27. April 17, 2012 at 11:04 am

    Heads up everyone – 11:10 AM EDT

    President Obama Speaks on Plan to Increase Oversight and Crack Down on Manipulation in the Oil Market



  28. 110 jacquelineoboomer
    April 17, 2012 at 11:06 am

    Space shuttle transport safely lands. Hallelujah.

  29. April 17, 2012 at 11:09 am

    I reported Ted Nigent to the SS HQ in Baltimore. They said they will look into it!

  30. April 17, 2012 at 11:13 am


    • 114 Linda
      April 17, 2012 at 11:56 am

      “It’s clear now that Mitt Romney is going to be our nominee,” Boehner said during a press conference. “I think Mitt Romney has a set of economic policies that can put America back to work and, frankly, contrast sharply with the failed economic policies of President Obama. I will be proud to support Mitt Romney and do everything I can to help him win.”


      Another…” Oh well…. I guess we are stuck with him” enorsement….. Hey John….what are YOUR policies to put America back to work ? Pass the damn JOBS ACT!

      • 115 theo67
        April 17, 2012 at 2:13 pm

        So, does Boehner understand that any failure on President Obama’s part regarding his economic policies can be directly tied to the GOP and their policy of obstruction? This is rich!

  31. April 17, 2012 at 11:26 am

    And did the Head of the AFL/CIO speak out against Clinton when he signed NAFTA? Which is what started all this outsourcing!
    This is pentup frustration and mis directed anger. Liberals should have been screaming at the past 2 Presidents, nary a peep!

    • April 17, 2012 at 11:30 am

      Actually, the unions were pretty united in their opposition to NAFTA.

    • 119 Bill
      April 17, 2012 at 12:04 pm

      Over 90% of economists believe in free trade as 97% of scientists believe in climate chamge. Sometimes it pays to listen to the experts. Neither genie will be put back in the bottle. PBO’s focus on education is to train our population for higher end economic endeavors and allow less developed countries to perform lower skilled manufacturing for cheap wages.

  32. 120 Ladyhawke
    April 17, 2012 at 11:27 am

    Don’t you love it? Before President Obama makes his announcement, the Republicans are calling it a gimmick.

  33. 122 jacquelineoboomer
    April 17, 2012 at 11:32 am

    President Obama is using the term “Right now” in his speech. That’s right! President Obama #RightNow Democratic House #RightNow Democratic Senate #RightNow ! There are all imperatives – and our marching orders – for 2012.

  34. April 17, 2012 at 11:35 am

    11:12 AM EDT 17-4-2012 11:12 AM EDT

    After Pounding From Progressives, ALEC Backs Off Of Social Issues

    The American Legislative Exchange Council, a corporate-backed conservative-leaning group that creates model legislation, is promising to focus only on economics in the wake of a massive progressive campaign targeting the group and its sponsors.


    • 124 Ladyhawke
      April 17, 2012 at 11:47 am


      I am so glad that the “ALEC SHADOW GOVERNMENT” has been exposed. Pulling back the curtain on this organization has been absolutely chilling. What they have been doing is against everything our democracy stands for. The revelations could not be happening at a better time. It’s another wake-up call for the American people.

      • 125 edp4bho
        April 17, 2012 at 12:18 pm

        The damage is already done. Unrealistic voting laws, gun owners feeling free to kill at will, and all the money still being made by the companies affiliated with them. Not buying what they’re trying to sell us, after they sold us out with the association in the first place. I shall continue to watch where I spend my hard-earned cash. F’ck ALEC.

  35. April 17, 2012 at 11:41 am

  36. April 17, 2012 at 11:47 am

    Romney’s people are a joke.

    @woodhouseb is the Democratic Party Communications Director.
    @ericfehrn is Romney’s media strategist and political consultant.

    • April 17, 2012 at 11:51 am

      What kind of political operative blocks the other party’s Communications Director? The Romney camp really are a bunch of amateurs.

      • 131 nintendowii10
        April 17, 2012 at 11:55 am

        And this is what a Mitt Romney administration would look like, Obama’s campaign and the DNC should be pointing this out far more often!

        • 132 theo67
          April 17, 2012 at 2:19 pm

          This is exactly true. They disavow transparency. They scoff at being challenged on their lies. They have no interest to discuss things openly. They are entitled and believe they’re above the rules that the rest of us play under. And they plug their ears and sing “la la la” when they hear stuff they don’t like or don’t want to answer. This reminds me of Romney during the debates when he’d get a bit roughed up during his answers, and he’d start squealing about how “it’s his turn to speak now”. Him and Ann are like toddlers who never grew up. And they want to rule the world? Not my world.

      • April 17, 2012 at 12:04 pm

        Seriously. Brad Woodhouse has been asking him repeatedly for a response on Ted Nugent. So his response is to block him. These guys have no idea about twitter yet they’re “media strategists.” LOLz.

    • 134 jacquelineoboomer
      April 17, 2012 at 12:12 pm

      meta – Love your “Dishing big but folding on the rejoinder” remark. If Romney actually gets the nomination (where are we – Mars?) and gets to debate President Obama (they’ll have to think of a new, lesser word for “debate”), I’m guessing you have just written the headline about Willard’s performance pre- and during his stand-up comedy routines, which they will surely be. #onlynobodywillbelaughing

  37. 135 nintendowii10
    April 17, 2012 at 11:51 am

    Right now, the Republicans are doing anything and everything possible to damage the President because they KNOW how pathetic a candidate Mitt is. Mitt continues to make gaffe after gaffe after gaffe, so the Republicans figure if they can bring POTUS numbers down, that works in their favor. Hence why they continue to try and make hay out of the SS scandal the Rosen comments from last week, and gas prices. I’d also expect for them to bring up Reverend Wright, Bill Ayers, Derrick Bell, and more “scary boogiemen” to pump that fear factor in their attempts to Willie Hortonize the President.

  38. 139 PoliticalJunkessa
    April 17, 2012 at 11:56 am

    Look at our gorgeous First Lady…I LOVE the orange! She’s in a class by herself. ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

    • 142 4morefor44
      April 17, 2012 at 12:27 pm

      why are you bringing this here? i’ve long thought bob beckel plays the part of a ‘democrat” to make us look bad, and look how this video is labelled. just watching now and it seems like a staged moment to me.

      • 143 Bill
        April 17, 2012 at 1:33 pm

        Beckel is a self descrlbed recovering drug addict and alcoholic. He is on FOX for one reason, the money. The five that make up “The Five” have a cumulative IQ of less than 100, and is maybe worse than “Fox and Friends”.

  39. 146 amk for obama
    April 17, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    tom fucking friedman wins atrios’ Grand Wanker of the Decade today.

  40. 148 Ladyhawke
    April 17, 2012 at 12:20 pm


    When lying is ‘a business plan’

    By Steve Benen


    That’s a good line, but what matters more to me than Cohen’s argument is the column’s existence — Romney’s unnerving dishonesty is starting to get noticed in ways that had gone largely overlooked. Concerns are, in other words, going mainstream. Dana Milbank did a column on this recently, and now Cohen’s on the case.

    As I argued a week ago, this matters. This is about the point in a presidential campaign at which media “narratives” start to stick. Romney can live with mockery of his out-of-touch patrician elitism; he can tolerate talk of his role in orchestrating mass layoffs; he embraces his lack of leadership experience; and he’s confident he can overcome talk of his flip-flopping.

    But if political observers start to see Romney as a man who frequently lies to advance his ambitions, it’s a character flaw that’s awfully tough to live down.



    • April 17, 2012 at 12:28 pm

      Why, it’s almost as bad as saying “I invented the Internet” or “I was the inspiration for Love Story.” Of course, Gore never said those things whereas Romney truly lies.

    • April 17, 2012 at 1:27 pm

      Watch. IF this causes intense heat on Mitt, watch the MSM break their backs to find a Democrat who lied sometime somewhere. Like Pres.Obama “lied” about closing Gitmo so BOOM Mitt and Pres.Obama are both liars. End of story. And it will probably be a little fucker like Chuck Todd or Jake Tapper. OR a dumb head liberal pundit.

      • 151 theo67
        April 17, 2012 at 2:24 pm

        I know you know this gobrooklyn, but for the newbies: they can try and use the Gitmo thing, but we’ve got legislative evidence that shows that Congress blocked all efforts to close Gitmo, to transfer prisoners, to try them in US courts, to get justice. With Romney, every lie he tells, we’ve got evidence to prove they are actual lies – and in many cases, we’ve got video or audio or his own book (both versions) to illustrate the points.

  41. 153 57andfemale
    April 17, 2012 at 12:23 pm

    I’m old enough to remember when a story like this would be national news, reported at length by Walker Cronkite and his peers:


    Now you only find information like this on left-wing blogs.

    • 154 theo67
      April 17, 2012 at 2:31 pm

      I was wondering when someone would start reporting this in earnest. Romney keeps talking about how he’ll make no decisions himself as Commander in Chief, but he’ll defer all decision making to the wisdom of the military commanders – which is, in itself, the most ridiculous thing for a coward like Romney to say while pursuing the job and hiding behind his cynical wife’s skirts. But, if the GOP have finished discrediting every other institution in America that has been tested and true for all these decades (including teh Constitution itself), are they now discrediting the military? I was wondering this last night, when I considered Issa’s witchhunt over the SS scandal, and how he’s going to handle the military involvement, since he’s said he believes there’s a culture of corruption there. Is the GOP finally – through their actions – conceding the military to the Democrats, just like they’ve conceded national security, economic prowess, basic intelligence and Christianity?

  42. 155 whatisworking
    April 17, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    From Creole Child

    Public Opinion Snapshot: Americans Disagree with the Ryan Budget’s Priorities


  43. April 17, 2012 at 12:33 pm

    What a laugh.

    • 157 LOL
      April 17, 2012 at 12:36 pm

      LMAO…I was just going to post that. If he can’t get Latinos that know him, pray tell, how will he get the ones that don’t. Perhaps their Dream Lite legislation that will never get passed might make a difference. -_-….LMAO!!!

    • 158 57andfemale
      April 17, 2012 at 1:17 pm

      Okay. That’s the funniest thing ever!

  44. 159 Ladyhawke
    April 17, 2012 at 12:36 pm

    The hour of the jackals is upon us. Press Secretary Jay Carney briefing starting shortly.


  45. 160 whatisworking
    April 17, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    The Top 10 Things You Should Know About Florida’s Latinos and Immigrants -They Have Significant Economic, Cultural, and Electoral Power in the State

    By Ann Garcia, Philip E. Wolgin | January 27, 2012


  46. 162 ctgirl7
    April 17, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    The entitled duo, Willard and Miss Ann, should hold off with the hubris because Slick Rick and Newt may be up to something 🙂

    Rick Santorum said tonight there is “no question Barack Obama has to be defeated,” but did not say he would back presumptive nominee Mitt Romney, instead revealing he had only spoken to Newt Gingrich, not Romney yet.

    “As far as going with a particular presidential candidate right now I mean had a chance to talk to Newt, I haven’t had a chance yet to talk to Gov. Romney,” Santorum said on a conference call. “But we’ll be talking to both of them and we are going to go out and deal with who we believe is in the best interest of our country and winning this election and make sure that we have a conservative platform, conservative message and they follow through with that conservative message after the election.”


  47. 163 itgurl_29
    April 17, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    Guys, Aleth over at POU wrote an incredible takedown of Michael Tomasky’s article today in the Daily Beast calling the Obama campaign cocky.


    Please, please, please be sure to tweet and retweet this to the man himself and let him know people are calling him out and we have President Obama’s back. Don’t let the day go by without tweeting it to him.

    His twitter name is @michaeltomasky

  48. 169 Ladyhawke
    April 17, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    The Secret Service Says They Are Investigating Ted Nugent’s Threatening Remarks Toward Obama


  49. April 17, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    Look what I dug up from March 2nd. These people truly creep me out.

    • 173 LOL
      April 17, 2012 at 12:56 pm

      You should tweet it to Buzzfeed and Politico—–Can Mittens comment on this important discovery?

    • 174 anniebella
      April 17, 2012 at 1:17 pm

      Let me see now, George Clooney or Ted Nugent, a tough choice. Kid Rock or Bruce Springsteen. Another tough choice. I’m still trying to decide. Tagg Romney, you’re as clueless as your Dad. Ted Nugent is nothing to brag about, and neither is Kid Rock.

    • 175 miss pat
      April 17, 2012 at 1:51 pm

      Tagg really? Why do they choose names like that? Sarah P chose some names just like that. I guess it’s to show that they belong to an elite group. Tagg with two g’s. Ragg with two g’s. Ah, well. I guess they can laugh at us giving our kids unusaual names but we can’t. Ted Nugent is a never come see come see. He will be remembered for what? Nothing great, no big accomplishments. I am glad the SS is on his tail..

    • 176 Cha
      April 17, 2012 at 5:12 pm


  50. April 17, 2012 at 12:56 pm

  51. 178 Linda
    April 17, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    The Secret Service Says They Are Investigating Ted Nugent’s Threatening Remarks Toward Obama |

    Ted Nugent’s threatening remarks about President Obama at the annual National Rifle Association convention in St. Louis have earned him a follow-up conversation with the Secret Service. On Sunday, the singer remarked that “if Barack Obama becomes the president in November again, I will be either be dead or in jail by this time next year.” The Secret Service, which investigates all threats against the President, confirmed to New York Magazine’s Daily Intel blog that they have in fact flagged Nugent’s comment.

    “We are aware of it, and we’ll conduct an appropriate follow up,” the agent told the magazine. Nugent endorsed Mitt Romney — albeit reluctantly — via Twitter last month, and at least one Romney, middle son Tagg, was excited about the news. Watch the video of his remarks, courtesy of Right Wing Watch:

    • 179 anniebella
      April 17, 2012 at 1:20 pm

      I appreciate everyone who turn Nugents name and comments over to Secret Service. Where is the leaders of the NRA stepping forward against comments like that.

  52. 180 Ladyhawke
    April 17, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    Conservative WSJ Columnist Blasts GOP Candidates For ‘Allowing The GOP To Be Painted As The War Party’


    Finally, in foreign affairs the Republican candidates staked out dangerous ground. They want to show they’re strong on defense. Fine, we should have a strong defense, the best in the world. But that is different from having an aggressive foreign policy stance, and every one of the GOP candidates, with the exceptions of Ron Paul and Jon Huntsman, was aggressive….

    There was no room for discretion, prudence, nuance, to use unjustly maligned terms. There was no room for an expressed bias toward not-fighting. But grown-ups really do have a bias toward not-fighting.

    They are allowing the GOP to be painted as the war party. They are ceding all non-war ground to the president, who can come forward as the sober, constrained, non-bellicose contender. Do they want that? Are they under the impression America is hungry for another war? Really? After the past 11 years?



    • 181 amk for obama
      April 17, 2012 at 1:55 pm

      For ‘Allowing The GOP To Be Painted As The War Party’ ?

      WTF ? It’s a war party. Hasn’t this nut listened to what the rethugs have been saying about Iran for the past two years ?

  53. 183 Ladyhawke
    April 17, 2012 at 1:07 pm


    Remember in November

    By Karen Finney


    Recently, some Democrats have backtracked on the phrase “war on women.” They shouldn’t. This is not the time to make a political calculation about terminology out of concern some voters view the word “war” as too harsh. Those same voters respect honesty and conviction. (I’d also point out that when Howard Dean first used the term “culture of corruption” to describe the Tom Delay-Jack Abramoff-K Street-Bush administration connection, some initially said it was too harsh.) Many women see an abundance of supporting facts, aptly describing what they legitimately are feeling. The phrase has given voice to women across the country, across all kinds of dividing lines, who have the sense that something doesn’t feel right. These are not hysterical rantings about “caterpillar wars.”



    • 184 theo67
      April 17, 2012 at 2:42 pm

      I agree with Karen Finney. The GOP have been using the word “war” against President Obama, practically labeling even his act of breathing a war on something or other. There actually is a war on women. No need to pussyfoot around it.

  54. April 17, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    NEW YORK (AP) — A Houston company has received government approval to build a facility that will make it the first large-scale natural gas exporter in the U.S.
    Cheniere Energy Inc. says regulators have cleared the construction of the Sabine Pass LNG terminal in Cameron Parish, La. The facility, which will chill natural gas into a liquid that can be shipped on tankers, will allow U.S.-based producers to export natural gas to overseas markets for higher profits.


  55. 186 Ladyhawke
    April 17, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    Jay Carney is at the podium. He has a guest today. it is Brian Deese to talk about PBO’s announcemnet today. Brian is speaking now…..

    • April 17, 2012 at 1:23 pm

      Brian Deese is terrific. Thank goodness Jay brought him in at the beginning to try and focus these dolts.

      • 188 Ladyhawke
        April 17, 2012 at 1:26 pm

        meta, I was just about to post the same thing. Brian Deese is just terrific. What a pleasure. He knows his stuff. The jackals got nothin.

        • April 17, 2012 at 1:30 pm

          Brilliant, conversant, calm. Personifies the competence that PBO himself with every day.

          • 190 Ladyhawke
            April 17, 2012 at 1:36 pm

            I’m in love with this guy. His response to Mara Liason was fantastic. Bottom line, President Obama is being HONEST with the American people and he has a PRAGMATIC approach to energy policy.

            I would ask Mara Liason – Did you ever see someone like Brian Deese do a presentation this thorough and detailed in the Bush administration??

            Woe, he just told a reporter concerned about OPTICS – As Tim Geithner said, just because Republicans are against something does not mean it’s a bad idea. BAM

  56. 191 Linda
    April 17, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    Speaking of the war on women… read this before Brigham Young University takes it down.

    The church’s teachings about the role of women, from its president. http://fc.byu.edu/jpages/ee/w_etb87.htm

    Ann and Mitt both attended BYU

  57. 192 edp4bho
    April 17, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    Must read. From Aleth at Pragmatic Obots Unite

    “Media Fail: The “Cockiness” of Michael Tomasky”

  58. April 17, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    For the life of me I can’t understand why the president’s men are not all over TV with that SOB threatening to kill him. Let’s just apologize for Rosen telling then truth about princess Ann. These guys drives me nuts.

    • 195 edp4bho
      April 17, 2012 at 1:23 pm

      Right there with you BWD. It all makes a body crazy. Hopefully Rev Al will bring it to light. He seems to be the only one with the boldness and defiance needed to support PBO the way he should be supported.

    • April 17, 2012 at 1:50 pm

      Actually they are trying:

      “Democrats Call On Mitt Romney To Denounce Ted Nugent”


    • 197 EricFive
      April 17, 2012 at 2:34 pm

      President Obama and his team did the smart thing saying that they do not share Rosen’s view of stay at home moms. Why allow the GOP and MSM to tar PBO with the blatherings of a CNN “democratic strategist”? Why allow the MSM to attempt to push the meme that “both parties are the same” in regards to women? It was smart politically and it was effective. Ms. Ann is her own worse enemy. Let her continue to show her true colors. I for one will not fault PBO and his team for practicing smart politics and not allowing a MSM manufactured wedge be formed.

    • 198 theo67
      April 17, 2012 at 3:04 pm

      I don’t believe anybody apologized for Hilary Rosen’s words; except for Hilary Rosen. The President protected his family and his standards of decency, and that shouldn’t cause so much consternation or misrepresentation of the facts. Given that the GOP have pounced on this simple statement from Hilary Rosen, the Obama campaign was absolutely right to distance themselves early on, especially since they legitimately don’t condone the words. They simply challenged the words and the intent – they did not attack the woman speaking the words. And neither did the President – he said the person uttering those words should reconsider their language, and then went on to declare families off limits, again.

      I don’t mean to pick on you, Blackwaterdog, but nobody on the President’s team apologized for Hilary Rosen’s words.

  59. 199 Linda
    April 17, 2012 at 1:36 pm

    Arianna Huffington has a thread up talking about the Pulizter win……It has been up for about 4 hours and has 13 comments.


  60. 202 jacquelineoboomer
    April 17, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    This m/h/b posted already – from nymag.com:

    So … Ted Nugent Threatened to Assassinate President Obama? [Updated: Secret Service Is On It]


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