You don’t often see Daily Kos linked around here – well, not since it became Firebagger Central. But this Conceptual Guerilla diary is a gem, so I’ll break the habit of a lifetime and link to the place.

The gist: CG got an email from “a guy who used to call my radio show over in Jacksonville” who described every Democrat as a “communist”.

This was CG’s reply:

That’s right, Rod.  Every Democrat is a communist … going all the way back to 1933 when FDR set up New Deal Communism. That would be the same New Deal communism you grew up under. The New Deal Communism that made us the richest, most powerful nation in history. The New Deal Communism that took us to the moon just 36 years after FDR was sworn in.

Let me show you the track record of those New Deal Communist Democrats.

Communist Truman left 2.5 percent unemployment to Eisenhower.

Republican Patriot Eisenhower left recession and 6.5 percent unemployment to Kennedy.

Communist Johnson left 3.5 percent unemployment to Nixon.

Republican Patriot Ford left recession and 7.5 unemployment to Jimmy Carter.

Communist Carter wasn’t able to improve much on the recession he inherited . . .

… and neither were Republican Patriots Reagan and Bush, who left recession and 7.2 unemployment to Bill Clinton.

Communist Bill Clinton left 4.2 percent unemployment to Dubya . . .

Republican Patriot Dubya left recession and 7.6 percent unemployment to Communist Barack Obama.

No Republican Patriot ever left office with unemployment under 5% …. including Reagan. No New Deal Communist ever left office with higher unemployment than they inherited …

More here

And this is CG’s video – be warned, it contains Rush Limbaugh, but it’s brilliant:

142 Responses to “commies!”

  1. 8 Cheryllou
    April 14, 2012 at 9:38 am

    Hello everyone

    • 12 Pamela
      April 14, 2012 at 9:43 am

      Since I have missed the entire rise and shine, I’ll say hello here then pop back in time…. Of which I have a little to spend before I hit the road!

  2. 13 57andfemale
    April 14, 2012 at 9:40 am

    Seriously, Chips, dKos is no longer firebagger central. Are there still the whiners? Yeah, but the noise is way, way, way down and there are often issues in depth that are worthwhile. The pro-Obama people far outweigh the whiners and there is constant pushback.

    I’ll go there once a day so you don’t have to.

    • 14 Pamela
      April 14, 2012 at 9:41 am

      Hi, 57andfemale!

    • April 14, 2012 at 9:44 am

      I’ll take your word for it 57, it’s just not a place I want to visit any more, unless it’s for a brilliant diary like this. I’ll never forget what they allowed that site become and how PBO supporters were treated. Those people were much worse than ‘whiners’, they were poisonous.

      • 17 aristac
        April 14, 2012 at 9:47 am

        not to mention what they did to BWD. Unforgivabale

        • April 14, 2012 at 9:49 am

          Exactly Aristac. Argument and debate is fine, but all that abuse and venom? It became as ugly as any right wing site I ever visited.

          • 19 amk for obama
            April 14, 2012 at 9:56 am

            Were you ever a ‘kossack’, chips ? If no, you should try it. It’s really, really fun. You can trust me, cross my heart.

          • 22 edwina3
            April 14, 2012 at 10:34 am

            Forgiveness is good for the soul and if they have changed, why hold on to grievances from the past? I don’t blame BWD for staying away but as I have said before in previous posts, I just can’t be mad at everyone, all the time. But maybe, that’s just what I need to survive with my heart and soul intact in this crazy world.

            • April 14, 2012 at 10:45 am

              But it’s not a question of holding on to grievances, Edwina, I don’t give DK any thought at all any more, the site is what it is, not my cup of tea! I prefer to focus on blogs and writers who never had agendas against PBO, and when they criticised him or his policies it was for sincere reasons. That’s all. My soul’s fine, honest 😉

              • 24 edwina3
                April 14, 2012 at 10:57 am

                I believe that about you personally, Chips, you are most definitely a great soul. My motivation for coming to your site has always been to find news of Obama and his accomplishments, not to be exposed to constant railing against the enemy du jour. So, that’s just me and I am out for awhile but bless you for all that you continue to do on behalf of our great president.

            • 25 LunarSea
              April 14, 2012 at 10:45 am

              To each his own. No one is judging or faulting you your decision to stay or revisit. It would be nice if same courtesy is extended in the other direction.

              We all make choices based on what works for us personally. And personally what I need to survive with my heart and soul intact in this crazy world it to stay away from DKOS

      • 26 amk for obama
        April 14, 2012 at 9:54 am

        +1. My BP asked me to say it.

      • April 14, 2012 at 9:54 am

        Libertarians at daily Kos, both left and right wing!

      • 28 57andfemale
        April 14, 2012 at 11:24 am

        Completely understand. We lost 2010 in part to that kind insanity. But it’s where I’m finding some really excellent information. I try to find the original source and link to that, if possible. And if it’s really, really good I will link it here. But I’m being very careful. And if they start to get at all nutsy I’m gone.

      • 29 sherijr
        April 14, 2012 at 11:37 am

        me either Chips, haven’t been there in years now and don’t miss it a bit. Too many liars for my tastes.

    • April 14, 2012 at 9:54 am

      I think I’ll stay over here.

    • 32 LunarSea
      April 14, 2012 at 10:00 am

      It’s all well and good, but I’ll take a pass. Hard to put that genie back in the bottle. It wasn’t an occassional vileness. It was month after month and cut throat. I’ll leave it to others to highlight posts of interest.

    • 33 edwina3
      April 14, 2012 at 10:30 am

      I agree, dkos has really changed for the better. Lots of posts with people saying how much they love Obama.

    April 14, 2012 at 9:40 am


  4. 37 hopefruit2
    April 14, 2012 at 9:41 am

    4th! Good Morning TOD, and congrats LunarSea on #1 🙂

  5. 41 amk for obama
    April 14, 2012 at 9:42 am

    Excellent rebuttal with facts. Tweeting this.

    No Republican Patriot ever left office with unemployment under 5% …. including Reagan. No New Deal Communist ever left office with higher unemployment than they inherited …

    April 14, 2012 at 9:44 am


    • 50 anniebella
      April 14, 2012 at 10:19 am

      Let’s be real, when have America ever been together? When blacks were on their side of town and whites were on their side. When blacks and women had no right. All we can hope and pray for is for the decent minded people not to lose their common sense. The Republican Party is rule by racists, their base is largely racists, not all. But these people have taken off their white hoods and stamp their racism on their chest. Because a black man is in the Oval Office.

      • 51 amk for obama
        April 14, 2012 at 10:36 am

        Unfortunately so true. We are going to need at least 30% of sane and reasonable white voters to pull this off.

        April 14, 2012 at 10:48 am


      • 53 57andfemale
        April 14, 2012 at 11:28 am

        That is true. But we used to have a media that understood simple truths and did their jobs without false equivalency and agendas. It’s the destruction of the media that gives cover and legitimacy to the nutcases. I will never forgive Bill Clinton for the Telecom bill and the institutional hate it unleashed on this country.

  7. April 14, 2012 at 9:48 am

    The President did an Executive Order last night on Fracking, green groups are pleased-


  8. April 14, 2012 at 9:52 am

    And let us all remember, the tax rate after WW II was 91%. We paid down our debt, which was worse than today, % wise! And the middle class prospered.
    Until, trickle down economics came along and fucked up our Nation.
    True story!

    • April 14, 2012 at 10:20 am

      Reagan was one smoth salesman to convince millions of people to vote against what had actually worked in favor of one the most bogus schemes ever invented.

      • 64 LunarSea
        April 14, 2012 at 10:25 am

        Yeah, the ‘great communicator’ was actually the ‘great con man’

      • 67 57andfemale
        April 14, 2012 at 11:32 am

        Times were different. We had had virtually uninterrupted Democratic rule for a couple of generations. As liberal as I am, I remember thinking that maybe trying it a different way was worth a chance (NO!!!! I did NOT vote for Reagan or any Republican). But instantly it was clear that Reagan had no intention of actually changing the amount of money we spent, but just shuffled it to the rich and away from the middle class and spending with abandon to enrich his buddies. And yes, he was a smooth salesman. To think that his happy dippy persona was actually Alzheimer’s is terrifying. It all started with Reagan opening the door to the religious right to political power and the dangerous conflation of the religious right with business interests.

        • April 14, 2012 at 12:38 pm

          I remember that 57. The country as a whole was looking to change directions. The failed hostage rescue did not help matters nor did the stalemate between Carter and the Democratic Congress with Ted Kennedy’s stupid idea to primary The President of his own party the cherry on top.

  9. 69 miss pat
    April 14, 2012 at 9:59 am

    Good morning folks. Hope your day is going well so far. Miss Chiptsicks, please if you find a picture of my President shaking my Jamaican Prime Minister Sister P’s hand will you post it? I would print and frame that picture and love it till the day I die. Look what me live to see!

    • 70 LunarSea
      April 14, 2012 at 10:03 am

      can we change your moniker to ‘AngelOfMercy’ ? What you’ve done for Hachiko was extraordinary. Thank you so much

    • April 14, 2012 at 10:09 am

      I will make it my mission Miss Pat! I haven’t seen any yet, but I’m sure they’ll meet today. As soon as I spot a pic I’ll post it, promise!

  10. 72 carolyn
    April 14, 2012 at 9:59 am

    A little OT, but I loved the headline from the first paper: Cartagena, Capital of the Americas….that is because OUR President is there. Those people know that where he goes, the power goes. His visit will do much for the relations between Latin America and the U.S. This is a relationship we MUST build in a positive way.
    Many, many years ago, in a course on Latin American history, the professor said that we had shamefully neglected our neighbors to the South, and that neglect would come back to haunt us. President Obama, being the scholar he is, knows this, and will work to bring the relationship to a much better place. He will need the co-operation of Congress…..and we can help him with that.

    • 73 LunarSea
      April 14, 2012 at 10:08 am

      Yes, these past few years he has really been working to unite the Americas north and south. Rather quietly. The shift in attitude and attention will be the best thing to happen to America if we can really put the ‘otherness’ aside and treat each other as the neighbors we are. (looking at you teabaggers and GOP)

      This is the first such shift in thinking since WWII. We can’t let the GOP stay or they will break it as they do everything they touch

  11. 74 utaustinliberal
    April 14, 2012 at 9:59 am

    Hahahahahaha……..looks like the commies are the real American Patriots.

    • April 14, 2012 at 12:37 pm

      Exactly. I say, If that’s Communism, then bring it on! It’s a far better business model, creates prosperity for more people, takes care of Americans the way they deserve to be.

  12. April 14, 2012 at 10:00 am

    U.S.-Pakistan relations took a leap forward on Friday, when Islamabad agreed to a plan to reopen vital supply routes to American and coalition forces in Afghanistan. 

    The plan bars any private security contractors from working inside Pakistan and bans the United States from carrying out “overt or covert operations” within the country’s borders, according to news reports.


  13. April 14, 2012 at 10:04 am


    I guess i’m more open minded than others because I don’t see how you can look at the results/math AND STILL support a Republican or Republican policies. It’s completely bizarre.

    • 80 57andfemale
      April 14, 2012 at 11:34 am

      Since the religious right began to take over school districts in the 80’s, this country is no longer educated. Math, you say? Math is whatever Sarah Palin says it is. It is beyond bizarre.

  14. April 14, 2012 at 10:06 am

    What is MHP doing having 3 conservatives on to talk about Moms?

  15. 102 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    April 14, 2012 at 10:09 am

    Gary Younge was great on UP! this morning. His book, Stranger in a Strange Land — Encounters in the Disunited States, in on my “to be read” pile. Found it at Dollar Tree a couple of weeks ago…

  16. 103 collegekay
    April 14, 2012 at 10:14 am

    Next Up…
    April 14, 2012 11:10 AM EDT
    President Obama Speaks at CEO Summit of the Americas
    Cartagena, Colombia

    April 15, 2012 4:35 PM EDT
    President Obama and President Santos of Colombia hold a Joint Press Conference
    Audio Only
    Cartagena, Colombia

    Press conference ain’t till later. He’s speaking in an hour though.

    • 104 LunarSea
      April 14, 2012 at 10:19 am

      hey sent my congrats last night but it was late. (I’m always late to the party) So again, Congrats in a big way. Hope you can record off your conversation on your phone. There’s an app called tapeatalk I think. May be something to look into before the call comes.

  17. 111 Brian
    April 14, 2012 at 10:16 am

    The communism or socialism card always drives me insane. I loved the analysis recently that showed that if you had started out with $1000 to invest in the stock market and only kept it in during one party’s time in the White House (meaning put it in during Nixon/Ford, pull it out during Carter, put it back in during Reagan/Bush, pull it out during Clinton, etc.), your $1000 grew to $2000 during the Republican years.

    The same $1000 grows to almost $13,000 during the Democratic years, even under that noted Socialist, President Obama.

    How do people like Allan West live with themselves? Their noses must be so stopped up, the can’t smell their own bullshit.

    • 112 57andfemale
      April 14, 2012 at 11:38 am

      Let’s say “especially” under the noted socialist, President Obama, because he had to dig out of the biggest hole since the Great Depression.

  18. 113 LunarSea
    April 14, 2012 at 10:17 am

    That first pic is the poster for less education/teachers and doing away with the dept of ed. I loved CGs reply. I will spend my next time on twitter tweeting it to pieces to GOP and teaparty. Love the image of their heads exploding when they read it.

    I tried listening to the video. Got to about 4 min and just couldn’t take anymore. It was like nails on a chalkboard to listen to the stupid. teh stoopid, it hurts!

  19. 114 magapie
    April 14, 2012 at 10:17 am

    I appreciate the point of the limburgerass video but I….I….I….just couldn’t stand more than a couple of minutes with that ignorant, flabby, noxious, lying, loud, bombastic, mean, huffing, sweating, hypocritical, greedy, nonsense spewing fetid filthy sack of festering weasel dung popping up over and over again….

    • 115 LunarSea
      April 14, 2012 at 10:21 am

      LMAO I had the same reaction and we posted at the same timestamp. Great minds do think alike….
      and fools seldom differ

      • 116 donna dem 4 obama
        April 14, 2012 at 10:41 am

        Oh wow! You and magapie missed the end. It was epic! I 😆 at the end.

        p.s. LunarSea, I want to thank you again for your kind, generosity to our friend Hachikō.

        • 117 magapie
          April 14, 2012 at 10:51 am

          I can get my puke bucket ready and try again. What do you think, the last 3-4 minutes?

        • 120 LunarSea
          April 14, 2012 at 10:54 am

          Thanks for the heads up. I will try to see if I can fast foward to the end to check it out.

          As for Hachiko, I hope all the good energy that has poured her way the past week+ has shifted the energy surrounding her, wiping away the obstacles and clearing the way for success. She deserves it. I am really looking forward to having her.

        • 121 LunarSea
          April 14, 2012 at 11:18 am

          You were absolutely correct! the end was fabulous! Will go visit the site now. Thanks for letting me know

  20. 122 desertflower
    April 14, 2012 at 10:22 am

    Good Saturday morning everyone:) Well, today is the day that I may be able to meet up with mtmarilyn! We’re going to try and meet for lunch. She’s in town for a family get together, and I’m so happy that she would take the time to try and visit:)

    Looking at the last thread, I couldn’t help but notice the President of Columbia’s wife. Beautiful dress. Is it just me, or was that a bit of a

    “flirtatious” dress? Just sayin’.

    Found this over at Political Carnival. As the mom of an incredible artist, I was touched by this…and his reason for doing this piece.

    http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2012/04/14/artist-creates-zimmerman-portrait-with-skittles/He says, “It’s a symbol of what happens when you let fear rule your life.”

  21. April 14, 2012 at 10:27 am

    This video needs to go viral. That was absolutely brilliant. He hit them with pure facts and you could see many of them were having a brain meltdown. Maybe they will all continue to vote Republican but at least one person in that group is going to think twice the next time they listen to people like Limbaugh, Hannity and the rest.

  22. 132 donna dem 4 obama
    April 14, 2012 at 10:27 am

    Good Saturday Morning TOD. Just peeking in from doing taxes.

    That video about the Tea Party is priceless! Sharing!!!

  23. April 14, 2012 at 10:29 am

    An analysis of the state-by-state race to 270 electoral votes, the total needed to win the presidency, and where Democratic incumbent Barack Obama and likely Republican nominee Mitt Romney stand now. The numbers reflect electoral votes:


    California, Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont and Washington.


    Michigan (16) — Despite lingering economic pain in auto capital, Michigan has large minority and union voting blocs that favor Obama. Romney, a native son whose dad was governor, won the GOP primary but his opposition to 2008 auto bailout will hurt him.

    Minnesota (10) — Low unemployment and a long streak of Democrats carrying Minnesota give Obama confidence. But Minnesota was competitive in 2000 and 2004, and includes a length of the Mississippi River Valley, among the Midwest’s most pivotal swing regions.

    Pennsylvania (20) — Typically an early battleground, Pennsylvania has tipped Democrat in the final month in recent presidential races. Romney continued campaigning ahead of the April 24 primary before effectively sealing the nomination Tuesday. But a nearly 1 million Democratic edge in voter registration makes the state a reach for the GOP.

    Wisconsin (10) — Ronald Reagan was last Republican to carry Wisconsin; Democrats eked by in 2000 and 2004. The June recall of GOP Gov. Scott Walker over anti-union legislation will test labor’s strength. If Walker is retained, Romney could be competitive.

    More here: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2012/04/14/us/politics/ap-us-road-to-270-glance.html?_r=1&hp

  24. April 14, 2012 at 10:33 am

    ISTANBUL — Talks between Iran and six world powers about the aims of its nuclear-enrichment program began on Saturday morning with a plenary session of all parties. European and American officials suggested that a serious commitment from Iran to negotiate may be enough to continue the talks at another round in late May, possibly in Baghdad, as Iran has suggested.


    This meeting is very important!

  25. 135 pugeretto
    April 14, 2012 at 10:34 am

    Happy Weekend to everyone…My husband’s home 1 day in-between biz trips, & I’ll have to catch up tomorrow. Did you get a winner for the Obama Pet Contest?

  26. 136 desertflower
    April 14, 2012 at 10:54 am

    More of this please!!

    thinkprogress NEW: 2 more companies end financial support for ALEC, the right-wing group behind “Stand Your Ground” laws bitly.com/IjXOa0 #icymi
    6 minutes ago · reply · retweet · favorite

  27. 137 NurseShar
    April 14, 2012 at 10:56 am

    Good morning all and happy Saturday. It looks like we may have some sun in Cali today. Are the right wingers going ballistic over the secret service incident?

  28. 139 magapie
    April 14, 2012 at 11:13 am

    Heading to a volunteer campaign ad photoshoot for Michell Lujan-Grisham at a park. My overly cute dog and family. Should be fun…………… except for the 35 mph wind out there……. 😦


  29. 140 sjterrid
    April 14, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    Thank you for volunteering, magapie, but please stay safe outside!

  30. April 18, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    I am the author of the diary from which this quote [and video] was drawn. I wanted to thank you for posting it, and also for your kind remarks. I am also the Director of the film MEGA-DITTOS!!! — The Tea Party Cult. The clip is a montage of questions contained in the film, which is available on-demand in it’s entirety at the film’s site

    We also have a Kickstarter campaign to raise money for a summer tour.

    I also wanted to weigh in on the comments regarding the present state of Daily Kos. I totally understand your aggravation. Last summer I took some time away from finishing the film to help with the pushback over there. Since the Presdent’s speech unveiling his “Jobs” agenda in September, the tone has steadily improved. When the House GOP found itself outmaneuvered at the end of the fall, thanks to the terms of the debt ceiling deal, many at the Kos community finally started to see that the President was perhaps a better chess player than they thought. Recently tightening poll numbers have them understanding the difficult political environment progressives face. I am look forward cautiously to even greater unity as the election approaches.

    Thanks again . . . and keep those stunning photo’s and video’s coming.

    Joe Lyles, Director
    Megadittoes Film Makers, LLC

  31. 142 Howard Kometi
    April 18, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    Good job. I see you’re at it again at Kos. Honestly, I also am disheartened by the flamebaggers, but I’m glad you’re there to oppose them.


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