rise and shine


President Obama will speak about the Buffett rule in four TV interviews today – with:

WCMH in Columbus, OH

KCRG in Cedar Rapids, IA

KMOV in St. Louis, MO

KOLO in Reno, NV


You can see Vice President Joe Biden’s campaign speech in New Hampshire today – 12:15 PM ET – at barackobama.com/live (CNN live streaming also have it in their schedule)


Washington Post: Whitney Tilson is a hedge fund manager and a member of Patriotic Millionaires for Fiscal Strength.

I am part of the 1 percent of the 1 percent. By that I mean that I am fortunate to be a wealthy American and I say, “It’s okay to raise my taxes.”

This morning I was at the White House supporting President Obama in his call for Congress to pass the “Buffett rule.” …. It would hit me hard….. Why am I okay with this? The answer has to do with simple math and basic fairness.

…. It’s not class warfare to say that people like me – who aren’t suffering at all in these tough economic times, who are in many cases doing the best we’ve ever done and who can easily afford to pay more in taxes with no impact on our lifestyle – should be the first to step up and make a small sacrifice.

…. I am grateful for the effective government we have in this country, which is the absolutely necessary foundation for our wonderful capitalistic economic system that has benefited me so greatly. And I’m willing to do my fair share – in fact, more than my fair share – to help rein in our deficits and put this country on a more sustainable path.

More here


Mother Jones


Paul Krugman: Here’s the bad news: Mitt Romney’s campaign is setting new standards in serial dishonesty. Really. He makes Bush look like a font of truth and accuracy.

Here’s the good news: reporters seem to have noticed, and – be still my beating heart – we’re starting to see reports that actually point out the distortions, rather than saying that “some Democrats” say that he isn’t being honest.

It was particularly gratifying to see the response to Romney’s ludicrous claim that Obama is anti-woman because women have lost more jobs than men since he took office. This was cherry-picking raised to the level of an Olympic sport….

….The core of Romney’s campaign strategy seems to be contempt for the news media (and the voters), the belief that he can say anything and pay no price – which was the way things worked for Bush. But maybe, just maybe, his calculation was wrong, and serial dishonesty will become, justifiably, part of the narrative.

More here


TPM: It took tens of millions of dollars, years of preparation and three months of primary contests, but Mitt Romney is finally the GOP’s presumptive nominee. Now comes the hard part.

Romney’s first day of the general election turned into a stark reminder that Obama will be a far tougher opponent than the poorly funded, disorganized candidates he battled in the primary. Romney was outmaneuvered and forced off message throughout the day – beginning with a morning press call in which the campaign was caught flat-footed over a simple question about Romney’s position on the Lilly Ledbetter Act – overshadowing the economic message he was trying to push, with the gleeful help of an armada of professional Democratic operatives.

More here


The Week


See the full show here


The Atlantic: So here is the president of the United States, enjoying canapés and small talk at Daniel, chef Daniel Boulud’s gourmet restaurant just off Park Avenue ….. “I have a question I want to ask you, Mr. President,” I venture, once I catch his attention.

“Sure,” the president says.

“Kanye or Jay-Z?”

The president smiles. “Jay-Z,” he says, as if the answer should be obvious….

“Although I like Kanye,” Obama continues, with an easy smile. “He’s a Chicago guy. Smart. He’s very talented.” He is displaying his larger awareness of the question, looking relaxed, cerebral but friendly, alive to the moment, waiting for me to get to the heart of the matter.

“Even though you called him a jackass?,” I ask.

“He is a jackass,” Obama says, in his likable and perfectly balanced modern-professorial voice. “But he’s talented.” The president gives a wink, poses for a few more pictures, and then glides away…..

More here


A baby donkey named Demo by its owner, Silvio Carrasquilla, stands dressed as the mascot of the U.S. Democratic Party behind a poster of U.S. President Barack Obama, outside Carrasquilla’s home in Turbaco, near Cartagena, April 11. Carrasquilla, Turbaco’s former mayor who considers himself Colombia’s number one Obama fan, is sprucing up his house by painting it the red, white and blue of the U.S. flag to celebrate Obama’s arrival in Cartagena for the VI Summit of the Americas on Friday.

A Colombian Obot! 😎


Morning everyone 😉

277 Responses to “rise and shine”

  1. 1 nintendowii10
    April 12, 2012 at 9:09 am

    Good morning Chips!

  2. 4 Pamela
    April 12, 2012 at 9:11 am

    GM, everyone! Morning, Chips, you are a millionaire of hits, eh?

  3. 8 symmetry11
    April 12, 2012 at 9:11 am

    Good morning Chips & TOD fam

  4. 9 pugeretto
    April 12, 2012 at 9:11 am

    Good Mornig TOD, Chips, congrats to you on so many hits!!!

  5. 11 pugeretto
    April 12, 2012 at 9:12 am

    Columbian Obat……picture of the day!!! Sweet!

  6. 12 a4alice
    April 12, 2012 at 9:14 am

    awww…..little baby donkey. cute! GM TOD – 🙂

  7. 13 nintendowii10
    April 12, 2012 at 9:14 am

    My view on the Rosen kerfuffle: she was correct in what she said, and the Obama campaign was also correct to refute her remarks. President Obama established his meme that attacks on the candidates families is a no-no.

    But at the same time, the Obama campaign and Democratic strategists should establish and point out the fact that Mitt needs to hide behind women to get their votes. You don’t see President Obama hiding behind female surrogates whereas Mitt needs female surrogates like Nikki Haley because he has at least a 20 point deficit with women.

    Like it or not, the Republicans are not going to be playing with kid gloves, and I’m glad that Rosen attacked one of the elephants in the room, which is Ann Romney. Remember how the Republicans were claiming she was going to be Mitt’s secret weapon? It’s people like Rosen who remembered that meme and are attempting to crush it and crush it fast… this is the same set of Republicans who said that Sarah Palin was going to be their secret weapon, and we saw how fast that fizzled out.

    • April 12, 2012 at 9:21 am

      I like your take on this.

    • 15 hopefruit2
      April 12, 2012 at 9:23 am

      Well said Nintendo. The GOP and MSM act as though women voters are so easily manipulated, that they’ll simply switch their votes from Obama to Romney because Rosen made an accurate comment about Ms. Ann?


      • 16 nintendowii10
        April 12, 2012 at 9:28 am

        Most of the poutrage is from the right wing that at the same time gets shits and giggles everytime Limbaugh calls our First Lady Moochele or the First Wookie. Then there was Allan West who attacked Debbie Wasserman Shultz and said she wasn’t a lady, no outrage from the right wing. Democratic strategists would be wise to point that out, that the right wing loves attacks on Michelle Obama and DWS, which are far more extreme and nasty compared to what Hilary Rosen said.

        • 17 anniebella
          April 12, 2012 at 9:55 am

          I think I will send afew emails to some media folks and ask them that very question, why is it when the right wing trash the First Lady the media doesn’t have a darn thing to say about that?

    • April 12, 2012 at 9:29 am

      I had to go back to the last thread to see what this was about. Having done so, two things pop into my mind. Yes, Rosen was correct, although possibly a little bit too strong in her comments. A woman who has been a stay at home mom can still relate to women in general, so saying she can’t is too harsh. Secondly, as pointed out a few times, PBO has always said it is about the candidates, not the families.

      I think the American people appreciate that. Plus, remember this was not a person in the administration, but rather a pundit. Theoretically, the administration doesn’t need to have a judgement on what pundits say, but at the same time, this provides a strong contrast between this adminsitration and the Republicans in general and their reaction to far more serious statements made by one Rush Limbaugh. The best Romney could come up with is that he wouldn’t have used those words, not making any statement about the intent of the words or the inapprorpiateness of going after Fluke period.

      One thing about PBO, he can street fight with the best of them, but he works to avoid that if he can. Integrity is one of his primary characteristics that draws people to him.

    • 19 prettyfoot58
      April 12, 2012 at 10:02 am

      perhaps…but if you are to be speaking for the campaign …one should stay on point…if you want to attack Mitt Romney on policy…then do so…

      i do not agree that Ann Romney should be attacked because she could stay at home…of course there are women who would stay at home if they had the economic means to do so….there was malice directed towards Ann Romney…even if the other side attacks us with malice and rancor we should take the high road as the President has and continues to do …

      Pressssssssssssss ON!

    • April 12, 2012 at 10:04 am

      As a working mother I am offended by a woman who says I chose to stay home and raise my five sons. There is an absence of choice for milliions of women all around the world who have to work and raise their sons and daughters. Being a full time mother is also not easy. I admire women who don’t have to work outside the home but her husband made it possible for her to stay home. He gave her a choice, something he would deny other women in America.

  8. 21 Cheryllou
    April 12, 2012 at 9:15 am

    Good morning Chips and everyone.

  9. 22 amk for obama
    April 12, 2012 at 9:16 am

    lmao. Go Colombian Obot. Mehhhh to you too.

  10. April 12, 2012 at 9:16 am

    If anyone needs a break from all the hubub, here’s Mommy Eagle feeding her new babies—–live!

  11. 26 amk for obama
    April 12, 2012 at 9:18 am

    so chips, all we get for the 9 million partay is just an ass ?

  12. 30 magapie
    April 12, 2012 at 9:18 am

    I love the baby donkey!

    (Good morning everyone and ……….Adios! Off to my 8-5 at the CU!)

  13. April 12, 2012 at 9:23 am

    The Atlantic: So here is the president of the United States, enjoying canapés and small talk at Daniel, chef Daniel Boulud’s gourmet restaurant just off Park Avenue …..I get my chance to ask him the question of the moment, the question that everyone who has bought the album or spent $150 on a concert ticket wants answered. “I have a question I want to ask you, Mr. President,” I venture, once I catch his attention.

    “Sure,” the president says.

    “Kanye or Jay-Z?”

    The president smiles. “Jay-Z,” he says, as if the answer should be obvious….

    “Although I like Kanye,” Obama continues, with an easy smile. “He’s a Chicago guy. Smart. He’s very talented.” He is displaying his larger awareness of the question, looking relaxed, cerebral but friendly, alive to the moment, waiting for me to get to the heart of the matter.

    “Even though you called him a jackass?,” I ask.

    “He is a jackass,” Obama says, in his likable and perfectly balanced modern-professorial voice. “But he’s talented.” The president gives a wink, poses for a few more pictures, and then glides away…..


    • 32 collegekay
      April 12, 2012 at 9:49 am

      Hilarious.. but true.

    • 33 utaustinliberal
      April 12, 2012 at 10:47 am

      PBO is so hilarious but he’s right. It is ALWAYS Jay-Z or Jigga if you may over Kanye West. Anyday, Anytime. PBO is also correct in that Kanye is freaking talented. Talented, but a jackass.

  14. 34 Me4obama
    April 12, 2012 at 9:28 am

    Morning TOD Family, morning Chips. Before everyone freaks out, just know this is good strategy by the Obama Team to call out Hillary Rosen & in the process they are setting out the standard how the general election is gonna be run. The Right Wingers like to insult Michelle when she goes on vacations with the Girls from now on we will see if Saint Ann & Liar Mittens will have the audacity to call out their mouthpieces. Axe & Mesina did show Leadership, now the ball is in Romney’s court to tame down the wackos in his townhalls who will ask him if PBO is a real American or if Michelle is entitled to take vacations on government planes with secret service. GAME ON.

  15. 38 ourmanflint
    April 12, 2012 at 9:28 am

    Good morning Chips. Will you offer to be taxed 30% on your 9 million hits???? You of the inter tubes upper crust. Congratulations.
    Thanks again for your hard work and dedication to the cause of supporting and electing the greatest president i have ever known.

  16. 40 lovingandlaughing
    April 12, 2012 at 9:31 am

    Morning everyone! I have so much catching up to do!

  17. April 12, 2012 at 9:35 am

    I love Demo the Donkey and that whole Columbian Obot story. Obots of the World Unite!

  18. April 12, 2012 at 9:35 am

    Hillary Rosen was an Adviser to the Hillary Clinton Campaign.
    What she said about Annie, would have been more appropriate, if She was sticking up for Hillary Clinton!
    Thus, She has to realize, she does not work for Hillary any longer, and is a Democratic strategists for CNN!

    • 43 hopefruit2
      April 12, 2012 at 9:46 am

      Look, Rosen can say what the hell she wants. She’s a pundit and that’s what pundits do. When Grassley, a US senator called PBO “Stupid” we didn’t think it was Romney’s issue. And even if Romney had condemned Grassley, we would be praising Romney as being an independently minded person to distance himself from Grassley’s remarks; We would not view Romney as weak or playing to the DEMS, etc.

      Yet there are some people on Twitter who are going mad that Axelrod and Messina distanced themselves from Rosen’s comments.

      • 44 theo67
        April 12, 2012 at 11:23 am

        Are there still people freaking out on twitter today over that? I’ve been avoiding it, ever since the craziness last night. But, utaustin did a FANTASTIC job tweeting what we should be outraged about, and it really does make the so-called “outrage” from Ann Romney look petty, especially after one of her own “boys” made a racist birther “joke” about the President. That, plus her role in the Seamus story, makes me ill.

  19. 45 itgurl_29
    April 12, 2012 at 9:36 am

    Well, anyone on Twitter knows how I feel about this and I am livid at Axelrod and Messina. Absolutely pissed off. Hilary Rosen is not a part of the Obama campaign. She hasn’t even donated to his campaign this cycle. There was no reason at all for the two of them to even comment on what she said. Rosen speaks for CNN, not the President. And by admonishing what she said, before they were ever even asked about it, they took ownership of her words. And they’ve put her words on the President. And what’s the first thing I see on tv this morning? The beautification of poor Ann Romney and pundits suggesting that President Obama has deep seated issues with women who are stay at home moms, unlike his
    mother, and grandmother, and wife.

    Axelrod and Messina got spooked by freakin’ Ann Romney starting a Twitter and took ownership of something they had nothing to do with. They kicked the ball right into Romney’s net. So now they’ve given the media and the GOP exactly what they’ve been waiting for. An opening on the War on Women. So now, we will have to deal with the false equivalence. “Well, Romney may have issues with women, but so does Obama because he has advisors who are so low they attacked Mrs. Romney and stay at home moms all over the country! Isn’t if fair to say that BOTH Romney and Obama have problems with women voters?!” Sigh.

    This also plays in the this pathetic narrative the MSM has been trying to push: the idea that Ann Romney is some kind of force to be reckoned with. Well, apparently she is if she’s gotten President Obama’s top campaign people to run and demand a woman who doesn’t even work for them apologize for telling the truth about saint Ann!

    I’m so ticked off about this. These kinds of unforced errors cannot happen! This is a rookie mistake I’d expect from the Romney campaign. They have now set a precedent that says the Obama campaign is responsible for random nonsense spouted by random left leaning pundits. How smart.


    This is what they should have done. Say nothing. And then when the msm asks them about it, mock the Romney campaign. Mock them for being so desperate that they tried to connect a random CNN pundit to the President of the United States. And then say you agree with Mrs. Romney, the smart one over there at Team Romney. And then run down all the stuff POTUS has done for SAHMs and families in general. It’s that simple.

    • April 12, 2012 at 9:42 am

      Hi itgurl, I’m way behind on this story, I just heard Rosen’s comment and read Axelrod’s reply, but not Messina’s. To be honest, I think it was smart of Axelrod to tweet what he did, I think the comment was so offensive it was important to condemn it. The notion that women who work in the home have never worked a day in their lives is disgusting, I’m genuinely pleased Axelrod said what he did.

      • 47 edwina3
        April 12, 2012 at 9:46 am

        Totally agree, Chips, Hilary really blew it, women are on the side of the Dems and this comment just gives the Romney camp victim talking points. Plus, as a daughter of a non-working mom who raised five great children, it’s a ton of work and should never be minimized. I get what Hilary was trying to say but, she is not helping and she should immediately apologize.

        • 48 nintendowii10
          April 12, 2012 at 9:52 am

          Why the hell should Hilary apologize? The right wing haven’t apologized for their attacks on the First Lady, and they were far more harsh and nasty in their attacks vice what Hilary Rosen said.

          Hilary Rosen said what needed to be said to crush the right wing meme that Ann Romney is their secret weapon, and I don’t see what we gain by attacking her comments with these knee jerk reactions. This is something I’d expect from the emoprogs, but we should know better. We’re not going to get by this season by playing with kid gloves and the spouses of Presidential candidates/Presidents are always fair game, especially considering that Mitt has needed female surrogates to get female support.

          • April 12, 2012 at 9:58 am

            But nintendowii10, we’re way better than the right wing, so we don’t have to stoop to their level with offensive comments. The fact is that Hilary insulted every woman who has ever chosen to work in the home, rather than outside it. It was just a woefully clumsy attempt to criticise Ann Romney – who deserves criticism – that ended up offending so many other women.

            • 50 amk for obama
              April 12, 2012 at 10:03 am

              I read her tweets (may be not all of them). She didn’t generalize the stay at moms.

              • April 12, 2012 at 10:11 am

                I agree, think she was just talking about how Ann Romney would know what it’s like not to have a choice.

              • April 12, 2012 at 10:35 am

                It wasn’t a tweet amk, it was what she said on CNN about Ann Romney – she “never worked a day in her life.” In Romney’s case that’s most probably true, but the implication was that women in the home are bone idle.

                • 53 amk for obama
                  April 12, 2012 at 11:14 am

                  Ok. I read only her tweets. May be she sounded worse in teh teevee.

                    • 55 amk for obama
                      April 12, 2012 at 11:27 am

                      So what exacly did she say wrong there ? She is just pointing out how privileged missus mehmney was and is. How did she diss Stay at home moms. Sorry,not buying it.

                    • April 12, 2012 at 11:35 am

                      I’m assuming what she meant was that Ann Romney had “never worked a day in her life” because she’s dripping in loot, but I think she should have been clearer – it was too close to sounding like “she’s never worked a day in her life” because she’s a stay-at-home-mother.

            • 57 Frenchie08
              April 12, 2012 at 10:31 am

              I totally agree Chip. That is not who we are. We are better than that. As Ghandi said, An eye for an eye ends up making the whole world blind.

          • April 12, 2012 at 10:10 am

            There is a difference between fighting fire with fire and dragging oneself down to the opponents level. Rosen gave the opposition an opportunity to say that Dems don’t think stay-at-home moms matter, which is ridiculous. I don’t care what the Republicans do in response to attacks on FLOTUS. Number one, they are directed towards her and not a general category of people. And she is out there in public so much, most Americans know her and like her, so the attacks don’t mean much. (One of my favorite parts of the Colbert experience was when he pointed out that her popularity is higher than PBO’s).

            Trust me, the media and the RW would be making hay with Rosen’s comments and Axelrod and Messina were able to proactively state that the WH does not agree with eithetr going after family or the intent of the comments regarding stay-at-home moms.

            It would have been worse if they hadn’t said anything until they were asked. Then, it would that they were forced into distancing themselves from ehr remarks, obviously for political reasons, but one might suspect they actually agree with them.

            • 59 nintendowii10
              April 12, 2012 at 10:16 am

              It actually would have been better if Axlerod and Messina had said nothing at all, because now the right wing will have some Republican rep that will plant the lie that Rosen is affiliated with the Obama campaign and Axlerod and Messina had to do damage control because Ann Romney scares the bejeezus out of them. itgurl really said it better than I could, it’s unneccessary knee jerk reactions that will embolden the right wing for a week or two. Now Mitt will be going on stage saying that the Obama campaign fears his wife, all because Axelrod and Messina had to react to a pundit who doesn’t even speak for the Obama campaign.

              • April 12, 2012 at 10:22 am

                Okay. Let’s assume they said nothing. Then the Romney campaign states, see they didn’t reject it, they must agree with it, which shows they are scared of Ann and also against stay-at-home moms. And if, say Jay gets asks about it and then says, we dfeel that was inappropriate, etc, then it is, sure under pressure they say that, why didn’t they come right out and say something to begin with.

                In reality, by doing what they did, they dispute the concept of being scared of Ann. They are saying we don’t believe family should be used as a weapon against a candidate. If they were scared of her, they would be more likely to tacitly support attacks.

                • 61 nintendowii10
                  April 12, 2012 at 10:26 am

                  Unfortunately, the right wing doesn’t think that way. They’re already saying that Rosen is an Obama campaign rep and Axelrod and Messina are apologizing for a mistake from one of their campaign reps and are already running with the meme that the Obama campaign and Democrats are afraid of Ann Romney. They should have said nothing until pressed about it, and then respond with something that has the effect of Mitt needing to hide behind his wife to win the support of women. Overall, a noble effort from Axlerod and Messina that will resort in the right wing having something to be gleeful about for a week or two or until President Obama himself decides to respond, if he decides to even acknowlede this at all.

                  • April 12, 2012 at 10:33 am

                    The right wing would be gleeful in any case. And I think sayiong Romney needs to hide behind his wife would be a stupid thing to say. So, since it isn’t going to have any impact, adn will be over with in a couple days, why not do the noble thing?

                    • 63 nintendowii10
                      April 12, 2012 at 10:38 am

                      Because the right wing have already been pushing the meme that Ann Romney is their secret weapon, and Axlerod and Messina’s responses have given the right wing all the power they need to solidify that meme, at least for a week or two… until Mitt makes the next gaffe that causes this to blow over. I admire that Axlerod and Messina wanted to do the right thing, but in this instance, it was not the practical thing to do… now the entire right wing media now is able to solidfy the idea that the Obama campaign and Democrats FEAR Ann Romney.

                • 64 prettyfoot58
                  April 12, 2012 at 10:43 am


                • 65 itgurl_29
                  April 12, 2012 at 10:59 am

                  You’re thinking like a rational and fair human being. This is not how the GOP and MSM operate. The Obama campaign repudiated Rosen last night and yet the news today is that an “Obama campaign/DNC advisor” is attacking Ann Romney. This is what I would have done had I been in their shoes. I would have said nothing. And then, when they’re asked about it on the morning shows or whatever, I’d say “How pathetic is the Romney campaign right now? You know, American women have taken a look at Gov. Romney’s policies and proposals, and they don’t like what they see. And instead of actually coming up with campaign ideas that benefit women, they’ve decided to play games. Hilary Rosen does not work for this President. And she does not work for the DNC. She works for CNN. And they’re so desperate that they’re trying to link her to President Obama. It’s just sad. But you know, I’ll say this. Mrs. Romney is the one person over there in Romneyland who knows what she’s talking about and she’s exactly right when she says that being a SAHM is hard work. She’s so right. And that is why this President has done this, that, and the other to help women and families, and yada, yada, yada…..”

                  You mock the campaign. Then you praise Mrs. Romney as the true brains of that operation. And then you say you agree with her about SAHMs and run down everything POTUS has done to benefit them. You don’t say “Bad Hilary, you need to apologize!” when she doesn’t even have anything to do with the Obama campaign. All they did was help make Mrs. Romney a victim.

                  I keep hearing how this was the right thing and smart thing to do. If why, why is it that the only people who are getting any positive coverage out of this are Mrs. and Mrs. Romney?

              • 67 0388jojothecat
                April 12, 2012 at 10:48 am

                When the Obama team does not respond it allows the other side and the so-called liberal media to make hay and turn it into an issue where there is none. I think it’s better for the Obama team to respond, Rosen can say and do whatever she wants, she is not on the OFA payroll.

        • April 12, 2012 at 9:53 am

          Hi Edwina, the really stupid part for me was that Rosen could have just narrowed her comment to questioning how the wife of a millionaire could possibly know what the real world was like for women, instead of making a sweeping statement that implied women who work in the home contribute nothing. That’s why I think it was important for Axelrod to respond, if he’d said nothing he would have been painted as condoning the remark, this way the campaign can distance itself from it.

          • 69 nintendowii10
            April 12, 2012 at 9:58 am

            IMO as itgurl pointed out, Axelrod and Messina more or less projected Rosen’s words onto the President and took ownership of what she said. Rosen is a Democratic pundit who has nothing to do with the Obama campaign, so why respond at all? Now the right wing will have the fuel they need to say that Ann Romney scares the Obama campaign… I bet that is the meme for Limbaugh and all the AM talk radio pundits today, it’s Sarah Palin 2008 ALL OVER AGAIN!

            • April 12, 2012 at 10:05 am

              “IMO as itgurl pointed out, Axelrod and Messina more or less projected Rosen’s words onto the President and took ownership of what she said.”

              I honestly don’t think that’s what they did at all, condemning a comment doesn’t mean taking ownership of it, unless it came from someone working for the campaign. If they didn’t respond to what she said then Limbaugh and Co – and the Romney campaign – might have had some ammunition against them, how can they attack them now when they’ve made their position clear on Rosen’s remarks?

              • 71 nintendowii10
                April 12, 2012 at 10:12 am

                Axlerod and Messina speak for the campaign, thus their reaction to a random dem pundit who attacked Ann Romney will play into the meme that Ann Romney is their secret weapon. And the right wing will have some Republican pundit who will plant the lie that an Obama campaign rep (Rosen) attacked Ann Romney and Axlerod and Messina had to refute said rep and BLAM! There is your right wing false equivalence set in motion, all because Axlerod and Messina had to have a knee jerk reaction over a comment from a Dem pundit not affiliated with the Obama campaign. They’d been better off not saying anything at all, then when pressed about it, respond that Mitt is so desperate that he’s hiding behind his wife to win the support of women, or a response that gets that point across.

                • April 12, 2012 at 10:23 am

                  There was already a fuss about what Rosen said, Axelrod and Messina regularly respond – or are asked to respond – to controversial remarks, their choice this time was to say nothing or condemn it. Again, I think if they chose to say nothing they – and the campaign – would have been accused of being indifferent to the comment, and of somehow condoning an attack on Ann Romney and all women who work in the home. It probably would have been the first question for Carney today: is the campaign’s silence on a Dem pundit’s remarks a sign that they approve or are indifferent?

                  This way, they have immediately distanced the campaign from what Rosen said, which, to me, is a very good thing.

                  And the notion that Ann Romney is Willard’s ‘secret weapon’ is just a laughable meme elements of the media are trying to push – I doubt the Romney campaign even believes it themselves.

            • 73 hopefruit2
              April 12, 2012 at 10:07 am

              Nintendo, how did they project her words on to the President? They didn’t. They may try, but that doesn’t mean they will succeed.

              If Romney camp had condemned Chuck Grassley’s “PBO is stupid” remarks, would you have seen this as the Romney camp being afraid of Obama as a reason for their condemnation of the remarks? No we would have seen it as a sign of maturity and integrity on the part of Romney.

              The RW demagoguing this reflects poorly on THEM, not on OBama/Axelrod/Messina. It’s the people who are attacking Axelrod/Messina who are making this about PBO rather than about the MSM and it’s desperation – which is where the focus should be.

              • 74 amk for obama
                April 12, 2012 at 10:25 am

                msm is what we are also focusing on hf2. These two could have distanced themselves from rosen’s comments in a mcuh better way. They dropped the ball on this.

              • 75 theo67
                April 12, 2012 at 11:31 am

                I totally agree with you, Hopefruit. It’s a reflection on the GOP that they didn’t respond to the idiotic comments from Grassley, or Limbaugh, or the Romney son. It’s a reflection on the Obama campaign’s higher standards that they won’t tolerate even the hint of a slur against women, stay at home or in the workplace moms. I have no problem with the way the campaign handled it. They’re dealing with a super-sensitive, super-exploitative GOP, and a worthless media who act as their puppets. Getting into the mud only makes us look bad. Rising above it should always make us look good, and be better. I don’t understand those who want to win, more than they want to be right.

    • 76 nintendowii10
      April 12, 2012 at 9:46 am

      This, this, THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 77 amk for obama
      April 12, 2012 at 9:48 am

      +1. I didn’t see yout tweets. Would have definitely retweeted them.

      Obama setting the standards is a given. But rethugs following such standards is definitely not. So preemptive apologies for what some dem pundit said is an unnecessary defensive posture. Either way the thugs and the msm are going to run with it. So why not just turn the table on them, as you smartly pointed out in your second graf and go on the offensive ?

      • 78 itgurl_29
        April 12, 2012 at 9:55 am

        Axelrod and Messina made this the President’s problem when they admonished a person who has absolutely nothing to do with the campaign. By admonishing Rosen, they made it look like the Obama campaign, and thus the President, had attacked Ann Romney and stay at home moms. Jay Carney will be asked about this for certain now. POTUS will be asked about this for certain. They created this problem. Not the MSM, not Ann Romney. Axelrod and Messina did. And that’s why I’m pissed.

        It’s one thing to have to deal with all kinds of things that go wrong during campaigns. It’s another thing when the problem occurred because you decided to go and kick the ball into your opponent’s net and give them a free goal. Especially when you were running away with the game. If they have to deal with problems, it should not be because of rookie mistakes like this.

        • 79 nintendowii10
          April 12, 2012 at 10:00 am

          And as I responded to Chips, the right wing will now be running with the meme that Ann Romney scares the Obama campaign. Yes, Messina and Axelrod may have had a noble intention by refuting her remarks, but they just projected the idea that since they are affiliated with the Obama campaign, they are afraid of Ann Romney. Thus why I predict that Limbaugh and the rest of the AM talk radio jocks today will be running with the meme that the Obama campaign and Democrats are afraid of Ann Romney.

          • 80 itgurl_29
            April 12, 2012 at 10:07 am

            That too. This plays right into that nonsense the MSM and GOP were pushing so hard this month, the idea that Ann Romney is a force to be reckoned with. They just gave legitimacy to that crap by letting her push them into demanding Rosen apologize. Ann Romney got on Twitter and put on the fake tears and they totally fell for it. They look ridiculous this morning.

            • April 12, 2012 at 10:11 am

              I just can’t agree on this one Itgurl. If they chose not to condemn Rosen’s remark that would have been read as either indifference or approval, I think they did exactly the right thing. How can the RW tie the Obama campaign to what Rosen said when both Axelrod and Messina criticized her?

              • 82 nintendowii10
                April 12, 2012 at 10:19 am

                As I explained above, all it takes is a Republican pundit saying that Rosen is affiliated with the Obama campaign and Axlerod and Messina being forced to do damage control. I bet that’s the headlines on Fox (Not) News, Redstate, Sludge Report, “Obama Campaign Rep Slams Ann Romney With Sexist Remarks, Obama Campaign in Damage Control Mode.” It really is that simple, and Axelrod and Messina should have known better.

                • April 12, 2012 at 10:28 am

                  Well, of course they’ll try to push the ‘Damage Control Mode’ line, that’s what they do (lie) – but the fact that Axelrod and Messina came out so early to condemn the comment immediately distanced the campaign from it. The much bigger story for the RW media today would have been if they said nothing at all. The minute Rosen said what she did the RW were going to run with the story any way, Axelrod and Messina’s intervention didn’t cause the stir.

              • 84 amk for obama
                April 12, 2012 at 10:20 am

                They are already doing it chips, axe’s andmessina’s apology be damned. See gopolitico.

              • April 12, 2012 at 10:20 am

                You got it right chipper!

              • April 12, 2012 at 10:27 am

                Fully agree. If you are going to be in a damned if you do and damned if you don’t situation, do the right ethical thing, which is what they did. In fact, their reaction does three things:

                It proactively tells the world that the President and the campaign do not agree with Rosen.
                They are definitely not scared of Ann Romney.
                That they are willing to state their disagreements without being asked, unlike Romney who really can’t even distance himself from a scumbag like Limbaugh even when he is asked.

                Now when Jay is asked about this today, he can say that we have already let you know our views. And he can make thiose same points, if he chooses. Same with PBO.

                • April 12, 2012 at 10:31 am

                  “That they are willing to state their disagreements without being asked, unlike Romney who really can’t even distance himself from a scumbag like Limbaugh even when he is asked.”

                  That’s it, in a nutshell. For me, Axelrod and Messina’s responses show, yet again, how far ahead of the other lot they are when it comes to doing and saying the right thing.

                  • 89 Frenchie08
                    April 12, 2012 at 10:37 am

                    I agree.

                  • 90 jacquelineoboomer
                    April 12, 2012 at 10:39 am


                  • 91 TrumpDog
                    April 12, 2012 at 10:45 am

                    Messina and Axelrod both made good moves on this.

                  • April 12, 2012 at 10:59 am

                    This is all good in theory, but we’re at war and we can’t be nice with these people. Not like it’s going to help us with voters.

                    • 93 itgurl_29
                      April 12, 2012 at 11:51 am

                      Exactly. It would have been honorable to demand an apology if someone who actually works for the campaign had made that statement. Rosen has NOTHING to do with the campaign or the DNC. It was totally unnecessary for them to even go there. They say chose your battles wisely. The problem is, Messina and Axelrod chose a battle that wasn’t even theirs!

              • 94 itgurl_29
                April 12, 2012 at 10:30 am

                I don’t watch msm or read msm. But I have today because I was so pissed at the total unforced error I watched Axelrod and Messina make last night. And just as I predicted, Ann Romney is being heralded as a saint, Romney campaign is being praised for putting Obama campaign on the ropes, and pundits are accusing POTUS of being the real guy with the issues with women. What Axelrod and Messina did last night was put this mess all over the President. They didn’t “distance” him from anything. They made it an issue and a problem for the President. It’s all that’s being talked about today and it’s ENTIRELY negative for the President and ENTIRELY positive for Ann and Mitt Romney.

                They caused a problem when they commented on what Hilary Rosen said.

                • 95 nintendowii10
                  April 12, 2012 at 10:35 am

                  This, this THIS!!!! Now the President is going to be forced to comment on this himself, all because Axlerod and Messina at the very least, chose the wrong manner for their responses. A rookie fumble that won’t hurt us in the long haul, but it gives the right wing the power as you posted to claim that they were right all along, the Obama campaign and the Democrats FEAR Ann Romney.

                  • April 12, 2012 at 10:39 am

                    I just wish someone, other than a hack from Politico, would explain to me what’s to fear about Ann Romney. Seriously, what on earth has she done or said so far that would give anyone the idea that she’s going to be a formidable foe in the campaign?? She’s hardly someone regular American women can relate to. She’s a women of privilege far removed from real life. She’s ‘two Cadillacs’ Ann, and if she tried to persuade women that she understands their struggles she’d be laughed out of town. I don’t believe for a minute that Axelrod, Messina or anyone in the campaign is remotely concerned about her, and the MSM are going to have a tough job trying to push the meme. Their response to Rosen defended those ‘regular’ American women who work in the home, not Ann Romney. I wouldn’t worry about her too much.

        • 100 Blackwaterdog
          April 12, 2012 at 10:16 am

          Totally agree. Really stupid and surprisingly amateurish mistake. We made this bullshit an issue. I’m really livid about that.

          • April 12, 2012 at 10:28 am

            The President has told them that family issues is off limits!
            They plan to use FLOTUS often in the Campaign trail, and she is apparently very sensitive to taking crap from the Righties.
            They are just setting parameters for Michelle.
            Or at least, that is what they are hoping!

        • 103 edwina3
          April 12, 2012 at 10:26 am

          I have always enjoyed Hilary Rosen very much; so for the sake of her career and for the sake of the momentum that the Democrats are enjoying with women, the prudent and actually decent thing would be for Hilary to say she “mispoke”, not double-down and defend her comments. We should strive to be better than those who attack us in small minded ways and when we make a mistake, the honorable thing to do is to own it. None of us are perfect but PBO helps us keep the bar high and I am quite sure that the president would never say such a thing about women, even wealthy ones, although the RW will try to pin Hilary’s statments on him and all Dems.

    • 105 prettyfoot58
      April 12, 2012 at 10:24 am

      i know i saw your comments all over twitter…but i think that one does have to be careful what they say..when speaking about the President’s campaign…

      what is her status…MSNBC said that she was a political stategists for the Obama Campaign…now i hear that she is not…

      but i think that if you are speaking for the campaign then you do have to be careful….if you are speaking for yourself…that is another matter….

      • 106 nintendowii10
        April 12, 2012 at 10:31 am

        This is what I am talking about, Rosen isn’t even affiliated with the Obama campaign yet now the right wing has gotten the lie across that she is, and since Axlerod and Messina condemned her remarks in a harsh manner, the right wing now have the power to say that the Obama campaign and Democrats are afraid of Ann Romney. They should have either said nothing at all until pressed about it, or not be so harsh in their condemnations… maybe injected a bit of humor that ends up mocking Mitt for needing female surrogates.

      • 107 itgurl_29
        April 12, 2012 at 11:08 am

        Rosen does not work for the Obama campaign and she doesn’t work for the DNC. She works for CNN. Axelrod and Messina admonishing her makes it look like she’s on the Obama2012 payroll and that they’re responsible for her. It was beyond stupid. And all day today, Rosen is being referred to as an Obama/DNC advisor. That is a complete lie, but the repugs say she works for the President and Axelrod and Messina made it look like she works for the President.

    • 108 Ahero62
      April 12, 2012 at 12:05 pm

      Totally agree with you itgurl, I couldn’t have explained it better!

  20. April 12, 2012 at 9:36 am

    S**t, just saw this:

    Jobless claims move in the wrong direction By Steve Benen

    Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:41 AM EDT

    While the general trend on initial unemployment claims over the last few months has been largely encouraging, there have been occasional setbacks. Today’s new report is the most discouraging in a while.

    Indeed, while last week’s initial estimate was the best report in four years, the new figures are some of the worst of the year to date.


    • 110 collegekay
      April 12, 2012 at 9:51 am


    • 111 theo67
      April 12, 2012 at 11:45 am

      We are at the beginning of month four of the year, so reports saying that the figures are the “worst of the year to date” is a little misleading. I heard an economist this morning saying that people shouldn’t freak out too much, and should look at the overall trend information. She explained that the warmer weather in the early part of the year resulted in a lot more hiring, so there are some adjustments happening. She wasn’t overly concerned. I think it might be useful for these analysts to also show what year over year stats looked like, too. It’s one thing to follow a statistic from month to month, but when you see that same statistic year over year, it puts the whole thing into perspective,because these things are cyclical.

      Just two short weeks ago, economists were raving and projecting an improving economy. We’ve all seen that the economy just normally doesn’t move very fast, so when there are fluctuations, we have to be patient. There are a lot of factors at play (kids studying for exams and spending less time at malls, gas prices, Europe demand slowdown, seasonal factors – more people doing family stuff and spending less on consumer goods) – and in this election year, it’s convenient that the media are reporting a bad economy just when Romney is trying to pivot to discuss the economy. That may or may not be a coincidence…

      Here’s a report from Bloomberg late last month – the environment hasn’t had any major shakeup that would explain the doom and gloom we’re hearing today, other than the fact that the GOP have presumably selected a nominee who claims he’s here to fix the economy (that is already recovering).

  21. April 12, 2012 at 9:40 am

    Nice ass! 🙂

    Good morning everyone!

  22. April 12, 2012 at 9:40 am

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Obama administration says it is saving taxpayers billions of dollars in improper payments to vendors and contractors, the result of a concerted attempt to reduce errors and instances of fraud in outside expenditures. To better coordinate the effort among executive agencies, it is launching a new online tool to cut waste.

    The administration planned to announce Thursday that agencies have already exceeded President Barack Obama’s goal, set in 2010, of recovering $2 billion in overpayments to contractors by the end of September. The administration has already reported that the government reduced its rate of improper payments in 2010 and 2011, potentially saving $20 billion over the period.


  23. April 12, 2012 at 9:43 am

    The nation’s largest labor federation is bolstering its super-PAC as the 2012 election season kicks into high gear. 

    On Thursday, the AFL-CIO will announce that the Workers’ Voice super-PAC is bringing on new staff and revving up its presence online. 

    Eddie Vale, a former AFL-CIO communications operative, is joining the super-PAC as communications director. Tim Tagaris, once a new media director for the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), will become digital director.

    Good! Because, Bill Burtons super PAC is weak!

  24. April 12, 2012 at 9:45 am

    Oooooh—-a coyote just ran through my backyard. I bet he’s an obot too, as are all animals.

  25. April 12, 2012 at 9:46 am

    As House Republicans drive around their districts during the April recess, 14 of them will see billboards attacking them on Medicare and tax cuts for millionaires, courtesy of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

    The billboards will remain up for all of April, and target Republicans facing vulnerable reelections. GOP Reps. Charlie Bass (N.H.), Sean Duffy (Wis.) and Steve King (Iowa) are on the list, as are Dan Lungren (Calif.) and Steve Southerland (Fla.).



  26. 126 PoliticalJunkessa
    April 12, 2012 at 10:00 am

    Love the Columbian O-bot. What an adorable donkey — s/he looks like s/he’s enjoying the role of Obama mascot. Too cute — little knock-knees and all. I still can’t imagine what it must be like to be PBO and have admirers all over the globe. It’s really mindboggling to me.

  27. 128 Blackwaterdog
    April 12, 2012 at 10:00 am

    This is all that matters. The rest is bullshit. I’m extremely worried about that.
    And I really can’t understand their decision not to issue that EO about the ban on gay discrimination at work place. Bad decision both on the merit and the politics.

    • 129 Blackwaterdog
      April 12, 2012 at 10:02 am

      The first part of this post was about the initial jobs claims, of course.

      • 130 amk for obama
        April 12, 2012 at 10:09 am

        Th EO route is a patch-repair job at best. I prefer permanent solutions.

      • April 12, 2012 at 10:12 am

        Yes! The Election will be about Jobs. But, then the question is- what is the plan to get Jobs?
        It reminds me of Harry Reids election, where Nevada had 14.1% unemployment, most in the Nation.
        But, he defined Angle early on, and had a different view of policy matters.
        One thing OFA has done, is define Robney as a Rich out of touch regressive robot!
        I think if Reid can win under those circumstances, so can the President.
        Also, it’s the gas prices that has effected the jobs picture, this past month.
        Albeit, several articles say gas prices have peeked…

      • 132 0388jojothecat
        April 12, 2012 at 10:59 am

        BWD what happened to your avatar? is wordpress messin’ with you too?

    • 134 collegekay
      April 12, 2012 at 10:03 am

      This reminds of DADT. People also wanted an executive order on that, but they chose to go the legislative route.

      • 135 hopefruit2
        April 12, 2012 at 10:11 am

        I agree. This is DADT all over again. We don’t need this nontroversy in an election year. And President Obama is wise not to succumb to pressure to issue an EO just to pander. This needs to be addressed in congress – with a LAW. Not an EO that the GOP can and will reverse in 2016 if given the opportunity.

        • April 12, 2012 at 10:16 am

          Not only that, but they want the President to say he is for marriage equality.
          And the Democratic Platform blah blah blah.
          Also, their was a conservative group who is trying to sew seeds of discord between the Gay Community and the AA community!

          • 137 collegekay
            April 12, 2012 at 10:24 am

            A mess.

            I suspect PBO won’t fully endorse gay marriage until after the election. There’s still a faction of AA’s who don’t approve… including many in my family.. sad to say smh..

            • 138 prettyfoot58
              April 12, 2012 at 10:31 am

              Why does he have to support gay marriage…if he has done more concretely to support gay rights than any other president….

              • April 12, 2012 at 10:35 am

                I assume the myth that the AA community, are more socially conservative, and the media uses this to attack the President.
                And the posters at Daily Kos know this too, so does Maddow!

            • 140 anniebella
              April 12, 2012 at 10:35 am

              Why does President Obama has to endorse gay marriage. I am not in favor of gay marriage.

            • 144 hopefruit2
              April 12, 2012 at 10:48 am

              collegekay I think we need to refrain from these stereotypes about the AA community not approving gay marriage…that’s an illusory correlation but it’s not systematically accurate. More white evangelicals, catholics and mormons despite LGBT more than AAs, yet you hardly hear those stereotypes. Same sex marriage was legal in Washington DC – with more than 50% AA population, more AAS than any other US jurisdiction, even BEFORE PBO took office.

              Since PBO repealed DADT, he has not lost AA votes – has he? He has done more for the LGBT commuinity than any other president and has the AA community solidly behind him. It’s not because of the AA community he’s going about this the way he is. He wants the a congressionally supported LAW, not an EO. That’s just his modus operandi.

              • 145 collegekay
                April 12, 2012 at 10:51 am

                I didn’t say he lost AA votes. I’m just saying some still are on the fence about the issue. that’s it…

                • 146 hopefruit2
                  April 12, 2012 at 10:56 am

                  There are people of any race who might be on the fence, not just AAs.

                  And as I said, the jurisdiction with the highest proportion of AA residents already recognizes same-sex marriage. President Obama is not using AA’s feelings one way or another about gay marriage to guide his decision making with regard to legislation.

          • April 12, 2012 at 11:11 am

            If the president doesn’t support gay marriage, it disappoint me tremendously and goes against everything I know about him, but I can’t ask him to endorse it. But, the Democratic Party platform MUST support gay marriage IMO.

            • April 12, 2012 at 11:42 am

              Luckily there is some movement in the direction of getting marriage equality on the National Platform. Some high-profile party people are starting to come out in support of it; and on the grassroots level there is growing support. Both must happen. It will be an uphill battle, though, because there are still plenty of badly misinformed Democrats who don’t support marriage equality and are prepared to fight having it put on the Platform. This is why being involved in the Party matters.

        • 149 theo67
          April 12, 2012 at 11:50 am

          They’ll reverse it with great fanfare, too. Better to change the law.

      • 150 Blackwaterdog
        April 12, 2012 at 10:19 am

        It’s not the same. This is not Nancy’s House. This will never have even half the votes needed. Beside, it’s an election year, why not play politics for an important part of the base?

        • 151 amk for obama
          April 12, 2012 at 10:29 am

          If the “base” can’t appreciate what this prez has done for lgbt issues and under what circumstances, then the ‘base’ can go fuck itself. This man has already shown the right way of doing these things. If they’re so clueless as not to recognize that, then they’re worthy to be ignored.

          • April 12, 2012 at 11:23 am

            That’s not the point. The point is to help fire the base up. This is what the Right does so well. The only thing that matters is winning the election. There’s no logic reason to this decision. It won’t end up like DADT – So it’s bad policy – and it’s disappointing many real supporters. So what gives?

            • 153 theo67
              April 12, 2012 at 11:56 am

              The base should be fired up by the alternative to President Obama. If they withhold their vote despite getting a lot during a very difficult legislative term, then they deserve to experience the alternative that they’ll get from the Republican party. There is just too much at stake to cater to the fickle among the base at this time. This issue is just way too loaded to try to take on. The President has called on Congress repeatedly to overturn DOMA. He’s already done a lot in the Fed government. And he’s clearly respectful of gay rights. There’s a time for pragmatism, and that time is now.

          • 154 nospin
            April 12, 2012 at 5:16 pm

            say it again amk for obama

        • April 12, 2012 at 10:32 am

          I happen to think that 30-40% of the Gay Community are devout Republicans, for whatever reason!

  28. 157 PoliticalJunkessa
    April 12, 2012 at 10:11 am

    Guess I’m out of the loop on the Hilary Rosen brouhaha. Don’t care to get in the loop on it. Probably another outrage-du-jour that will blow over…

    • 158 collegekay
      April 12, 2012 at 10:14 am

      Indeed. It’ll be over by the weekend.

    • 159 amk for obama
      April 12, 2012 at 10:15 am

      I give ti two days, tops. By monday, it will be another poutrage by the fucking msm.

      • 160 Blackwaterdog
        April 12, 2012 at 10:21 am

        It will be over by tomorrow. Still a stupid mistake.

        • 161 Me4obama
          April 12, 2012 at 10:30 am

          It would have been a one week story if Axerold & Mesina didn’t condemn the language. If those reporters doing interviews with PBO today ask him about Ann Robney he will shower her with praises because that’s what he TRULY believes in thus throwing a rotten egg in the MSM’s face. I love my President.

          • April 12, 2012 at 10:43 am

            Right on the button. This actually works to the President’s advantage simply because they did do it proactively and won’t be seen as only answering under pressure.

    • 163 anniebella
      April 12, 2012 at 10:25 am

      I’m with you PoliticalJunkessa, I’ve said all I want to about it, and I have read all I want to read about it.

    • 164 MsKitty (@michelec64)
      April 12, 2012 at 10:45 am

      Yeppers. Here’s the thing. In the next seven months people are gonna run their mouths on TV and the media will try to spin something out of it because that’s what they do. Next week it will be something else, and another thing the week after that. Frankly I just can’t gin up any emotion on this one way or the other.

    • 165 nospin
      April 12, 2012 at 5:18 pm

      you and me both PJ. I only got glimpses of it based on the conversations on this thread. My thought is . . .so what?

      Keep it moving.

  29. 166 desertflower
    April 12, 2012 at 10:16 am


    What Mr. Moffitt, from the Heritage Foundation, had to say about Romneycare…

    MOFFIT (HERITAGE FOUNDATION): We’ve been honored by your request…to participate in giving our best advise and our technical assistance in designing a new and different kind of health insurance market. A market that is patient-centered and consumer-based, which will ease access to affordable coverage for thousands of Bay State citizens. This is new. It’s a new market, where individuals and families will be able to own and control their health insurance and take it with them to from job to job… Nothing like it has ever been attempted anywhere else in the United States. So Massachusetts has raised the bar for every state in the union. And that’s the applause you’ve given to your public officials here today is going to echo far beyond the hallow halls of this historic place.

  30. 167 PoliticalJunkessa
    April 12, 2012 at 10:28 am

    I love the piece on Willard’s stumbly first day of the general campaign. Hey Willard — it DOESN’T get better. 😉

  31. 169 amk for obama
    April 12, 2012 at 10:38 am

    Love this BJ post.

    Re Ann Romney, I saw that her first tweet was, and I quote, “I made a choice to stay home and raise five boys. Believe me, it was hard work” (h/t LGF).

    And for that, Ann Romney can go straight to hell and take her fucking toothbrush with her. Not for the staying-home bit, not for the hard-work bit, but for the “choice” bit. This clueless idiot and her elephant’s ass of a husband have all the empathy, and half the appeal, of a couple of clumps of rusted barbed wire. News flash, Ann: I made the choice to stay home with my son too. And you know what that makes me? Not good, not virtuous, not heroic, but flat-out straight-up 24-karat LUCKY, you airheaded dolt. All those women who aren’t staying home with their kids? They’re doing that because they CAN’T, because all those oh-so-wonderful and beneficial policies of ALL you Republicans have so bolluxed up this nation that ALMOST NOBODY is freaking ABLE to stay home with their kids, unless they’re collecting a fucking welfare check, you stupid broad. And the small minority of women who actually do have the choice of staying home and are still working, well, maybe you’d better actually talk to them, among all the women you supposedly talk to, and maybe you’d get a picture of women as being more complicated and multifaceted people than you, or your wind-up mechanical gizmo of a husband, are. Cretin.

    • 170 anniebella
      April 12, 2012 at 10:45 am

      amk for obama, I know I said I was through with this Ann Romney fake controversy, but I have to say this one thing,LOVE what you just posted. I love it.

    • April 12, 2012 at 10:55 am

      And this is why what Axelrod and Messina did was a positive thing. This guarantees it will come up in the press conference and in discussions with PBO. It sets up the following response.

      “First of all, we disagree with what Rosen said. Stay at home moms do work hard. Mrs. Romney, fortunately, had the opportunity to majke the hoice to be a stay at home mom. Unfortunatekly, many women who might prefer to focus full time on raising their children do not have that luxury due to the economic policies of the Republican Party. And they want to double down and make it even harder for women to have the actual ability to make that choice. If women want to enter the work force, they should have that opportunity and, if they do, receive the same pay and promottional opportunities as men. If they want to stay at home, they should be able to do so without sacrificing the ability to offer their children a comfortable life style. Too many families have been forced into having both parents work due to Republican policies.”

      Of course, they can craft better language than I can, but you get the gist.

      • 172 hopefruit2
        April 12, 2012 at 10:59 am

        I agree japa. This gives the administration a chance to clearly and decisively articulate their position and not allow the MSM to distort or tie Rosen to the PBO campaign as the GOP would have liked.

      • 173 amk for obama
        April 12, 2012 at 11:06 am

        I never had a moment’s doubt about Obama hitting this off the ground, japa. I also do not disagree on what axelrod and messina did. I just question their timing. In spite of their well-intentioned pushback, that wouldn’t shield the president from the third rate fourth estate. What do you expect him to say, when the inept media klowns ask him about this ? “That question has already been answered by my campaign team ?”. No, the media whores would still want where “he stood” on this meaningless crap.

        • April 12, 2012 at 11:10 am

          Which is fine. But if they hadn’t done the repudiation, the question would have been why not. Why did you have to wait to be asked. Were you trying to figure out an appropriate response?

          • 175 nintendowii10
            April 12, 2012 at 11:17 am

            That’s where as itgurl pointed out, they shame the Romney campaign while at the same time agreeing with her stance on SAHMs. Then the right wing media wouldn’t have as much fuel to say that the Obama campaign is losing support amongst women.

            • 176 lisalovesobama
              April 12, 2012 at 2:06 pm

              shame what? the repug party? shame who? Willard and his mouthpieces? Sometimes I wonder what planet we reside on. Shame doesn’t work with these freaktards. You’ve gotta preemptively strike while the iron is hot and before they can brand you with whatever sludge and slime they can come up with. We agree on many things, Nin. This isn’t one of them.

          • 177 amk for obama
            April 12, 2012 at 11:21 am

            As I said, the media doesn’t and didn’t give a shite about these repudiations. Did you see anywhere where any of the media thugs citing these repudiations ?

            • April 12, 2012 at 11:24 am

              Okay, everybody is saying by doing the repudiations they tied this to teh Obama campaign. But apoprently not, from what you are saying, as the repudiations are being mentioned. So no harm in doing the repudiation, right? Yet, the record is there and can be pulled out whenever there is a question.

              • April 12, 2012 at 11:26 am

                The reoudiatuions are not being mentioned. Sheesh, I have to proofread more. But the window is so little.

              • 181 amk for obama
                April 12, 2012 at 11:34 am

                Their ill-timed repudiations only drew more unwarranted attention without actually benefiting the president. Do you think anyone in the media is gonna say, look, how gracious they were in repudiating this ? No, effing way. They are just gonna present it as a proof that Obama campaign is attacking all wimmin. Yes, up is down and left is right with the fucking media.

                Anyhoo, the minds are already made up about this and so let’s just leave it at that.

    • 182 Cheryllou
      April 12, 2012 at 10:55 am

      Thank you for that amk, I feel the same way. The Romney camp is grasping at whatever they can hold on to. I think in the end it will come back to bite them because the facts speak for themselves and flip-flopper, pathological liar Mitt Romney can’t run away from what he said and done these past months.

    • 183 prettyfoot58
      April 12, 2012 at 11:02 am

      i do not get the anger in this in this attack…Ann Romney is not the one who will be president….why do we have to get nasty…and call names…

      all the nastiness is a turn off for me…

    • April 12, 2012 at 1:15 pm

      I agree with all of this!

      and I also agreed with Messina and Axe condemning Rosen’s statement – for political reasons.

    • 187 theo67
      April 12, 2012 at 1:25 pm


  32. 188 hopefruit2
    April 12, 2012 at 10:40 am

    Last year at this time, we were all lamenting how the administration was allowing Donald Trump to control the message about PBO’s birth certificate. 24- 7 the carnival barkers were on that topic. Then what happened?

    Please complete the narrative…

  33. 189 collegekay
    April 12, 2012 at 10:40 am

    ‘Modest to moderate’ economic growth: Beige Book

    The report noted that manufacturers and retailers expressed some concern about rising oil prices, and the Beige Book also credited unusually warm weather with helping retail sales

    [G]enerally, the report showed an economy chugging if not roaring along: manufacturing expanding, professional business services growing, freight volume increasing, strong new-car sales, growing tourism, favorable agricultural conditions, more mining and oil extraction and some improving loan demand.


  34. April 12, 2012 at 10:46 am

    Latest Marist Poll for FLOTUS-

    Almost two-thirds of registered voters nationwide have a positive impression of First Lady Michelle Obama.  65% have a favorable view of Mrs. Obama while less than one in four members of the electorate — 23% — has an unfavorable impression of her.  12% are unsure.

    Mrs. Obama’s favorability rating is consistent.  When Marist last reported this question in October, 63% of registered voters in the United States thought well of the First Lady.  21%, however, had a less than stellar impression of Mrs. Obama, and 16% were unsure.

    “The First Lady may be the president’s best asset,” says Dr. Lee M. Miringoff, Director of The Marist College Institute for Public Opinion.  “With numbers like these, expect her to have a high profile on the campaign trail.”

  35. April 12, 2012 at 10:51 am

    Okay, now CNN thinks they have something. Hillary Rosen just went on CNN and doubled down on her commnets about Annie.
    CNN is probably advising Rosen, to do just that!

    • 196 Brit
      April 12, 2012 at 10:57 am

      I hope our team doesn’t feel the need to apologize again for what she just said. She is not apart of the campaign, so her comments shouldn’t matter.

    • 200 nintendowii10
      April 12, 2012 at 11:02 am

      Good, Hilary shouldn’t apologize for her remarks about Ann Romney, but perhaps she was a bit too harsh about her comments about SAHMs. But Axlerod and Messina shouldn’t apologize again, otherwise we’ll be hearing the “Apologizer in Chief” talking points again from the right wing.

      • 201 prettyfoot58
        April 12, 2012 at 11:13 am

        but why keep it going…..just move on…

      • April 12, 2012 at 11:19 am

        They didn’t apologize. What should they have done, ignore it until questions were asked? They could have, but then the RW would have pounced on why it took so long. The RW was going to jump on this no matter what. Doing what they did shows class and provides opportunities to turn this into a positive. Waiting would have made it worse.

        • 203 nintendowii10
          April 12, 2012 at 11:21 am

          Timing is everything… they should have waited until the media decided to parade Ann Romney as the new Republican party rockstar, then taken the opportunity to shame the Romney campaign while agreeing with her stance on SAHMs. Now the right wing jocks will be talking about how much of a star Ann Romney is and how the Obama campaign fears her.

          • 204 lisalovesobama
            April 12, 2012 at 2:14 pm

            I’m not picking on you Nin, because lord knows I love you and we see eye to eye on most things concerning PBO and the admin, but seriously, why are you so upset about this particular incident? Mrs. Money was well on her way to being the Rightwing Nutbag’s rock star anyway. Weeks before we were all on here mocking the right wing for saying she was what Dems were afraid of. We even watched her stupid little ad and laughed our asses off. She’s still as stupid and still as sleazy as her husband and she still won’t connect well with most average Americans no matter how much she milks this shit.

    • April 12, 2012 at 1:18 pm

      Rosen is doing what she needs to do to earn a regular spot during the election. The more controversial the better.

  36. April 12, 2012 at 10:56 am

    Word format

    President Barack Obama leads former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney 49 – 40 percent in the New Jersey presidential race, a lead that shrinks to 49 – 42 percent if Gov. Christopher Christie runs as Romney’s vice presidential pick, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.

    There is a large gender gap with or without Gov. Christie on the ticket. Men would vote for a Romney-Christie ticket 50 – 42 percent, while women would vote for President Obama and Vice President Joseph Biden 55 – 35 percent, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds. Independent voters split 42 – 42 percent.

    White voters back the Republican ticket 52 – 39 percent, while black voters go Democratic 89 – 6 percent.

    “It’s pretty much all over but the shouting in the Republican presidential primaries, but if Gov. Mitt Romney owns New Jersey in June, President Barack Obama takes command in November. This still looks like a reliably blue state,” said Maurice Carroll, director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.


    • 207 hopefruit2
      April 12, 2012 at 11:06 am

      LOL! If Christie is selected as VP, his obesity will become an issue (even though it really shouldn’t be). And while he may shrink PBO’s lead in NJ, he may widen it elsewhere in swing states like Ohio, NC, and FL.

      • 208 theo67
        April 12, 2012 at 1:31 pm

        I think his obesity may be a factor in talking about his ability to take over if something happens to a “president Romney” (heaven forbid), but I think his bullying demands more attention. He’s totally unlikeable. I find nothing redeeming in that man, and pairing him up with lying, coreless Romney would make me sell my TV until Nov 7.

  37. 209 hopefruit2
    April 12, 2012 at 10:57 am

    The GOP better be careful what they wish for. Ann Romney is another Sarah Palin in the making. By October she might very well trump Palin as the most despised woman among US voters….

  38. 210 lamh35
    April 12, 2012 at 10:58 am

    Tell me, has Ann Romney worked a day in her life????? Personally I don’t think miss Ann is as gr8 a spokesman as she thinks. She just as gaffe prone as her husband.

    And it’s easy to “choose” to stay home and raise your kids when your husband is a multi-millionaire…it’s another to have not “choice” but to work away from home as millions of women do!!!!

    Messina and Axelrod “condemned” remarks, and that should be it for Obama supporters, DON’T PLAY THE MEDIA/GOP GAME.

    Rendering of garments and what total harping and or meltdown is not warranted and just makes us no better than the MSM who tries to make everything a big deal.

    The Romney camp are latching on because they have been on the defensive on women’s issues since day 1. The issue is NOT stay at home moms…their meme is that jobs for women have been less under OBAMA.

    Well who are the ones affeced by job availabities… Women who choose to work from home or woman who have to. Not women like Miss Ann who can “choose” to stay on and not work.

    We’ve got a long way to go and if every little thing becomes a freak-out it’s gonna be torture.

  39. 211 collegekay
    April 12, 2012 at 11:01 am

    Ann Romney: “I know what it’s like to struggle”

    • April 12, 2012 at 11:05 am

      Yeah, when the Nanny got sick, she had to change the diapers!
      Also, her Chauffeur broke her hand, so she had to dust off her 4 Caddilacs!

    • 213 Ahero62
      April 12, 2012 at 1:03 pm

      Yeah, probably with a bunch of nannies to help her along, one for every son probably. How else would you keep an 8000 sq ft home clean!

  40. 214 hopefruit2
    April 12, 2012 at 11:02 am

    Okay so Ann Romney is trending on Twitter, and 90% of the comments are NEGATIVE towards her and Mitt. As I predicted, this little manufactured nontroversy is ultimately not going to help Willard.

    • April 12, 2012 at 11:10 am

      Elizabeth on the View is actually screaming about this now—–going wild on it! And Whoopi jumped in to support Ann Romney too. I am sick of this subject. It’s so ridiculous—–what some former Clinton supporter clumsily said on CNN becomes this huge topic?——it’s so unimportant and has nothing to do with President Obama’s views or his campaign. It’s going to be a looooooonnnnng, nutty presidential campaign season.

      • 216 hopefruit2
        April 12, 2012 at 11:14 am

        Elizabeth and Romney are part of the MSM. Their bread is buttered by corporate media – so of course they’re gonna obey Karl Rove’s instructions. Didn’t Whoopie support Rush when he attacked PBO for supporting Sandra Fluke?

      • 217 nintendowii10
        April 12, 2012 at 11:14 am

        And this is why Axlerod and Messina should have chosen their manner differently in refuting what Rosen said. Now the entire media will be pushing the right wing meme that Ann Romney is the Republican Party’s new female rockstar, and it will be Ann Romney 24/7!

        • 218 hopefruit2
          April 12, 2012 at 11:31 am

          This is not about Axelrod and Messina. They did just fine. And as for Ann being the GOP female rockstar, we saw how well it worked out for Palin, didn’t we? One of the most despised females by election day… Yeah, I say bring it on – Ms. Ann!!!

        • 219 elo4obama/biden
          April 12, 2012 at 1:11 pm

          I am sure nothing Axe or Messina could have said or not said would stop the media from pushing the rock star meme. Just as I am sure it will fail! The president does NOT attack family, full stop and period. The president supports ALL women, including republican stay at home socio-economically priveledge and or fortunate ones. When you’re winning the support of women and their economic, health and cultural rights you do NOT divide that support, by letting ANYONE say something that can be spun as bad mouthing stay at home wives and mothers.

          We need more republican women to stand up and refute their party for it’s WAR ON WOMEN. They are already trying to punish poor women through withholding health care and financial support. In general they make laws that get between a woman and her doctor, and her own good conscience and god.

          It’s not about the spouse, at least not from the president, his campaign suragates or the democratic party! We do nothing to assure victory by playing the old game stay and work at home moms vs work outside and inside the home wives and moms. Stop and full period.

          This too shall pass 🙂

        • April 12, 2012 at 1:22 pm

          This is not Axe’s and Messina’s fault. Stop saying that. Most people are not going to dig deep about this issue and all they will hear is that “stay at home moms don’t work hard”. THAT is the perception and THAT is what Axe and Messina are condemning because its not true.

      • 221 itgurl_29
        April 12, 2012 at 11:30 am

        Axelrod and Messina made this an issue. It was a terrible move on their part to help Ann Romney on her quest to Victimville. They were wrong to comment on this because they put this issue all over the President.

        • April 12, 2012 at 1:24 pm

          No Romney’s team made this an issue. And they lied and said Rosen was part of the Obama team. These lies had to be refuted and countered immediately.

        • 223 lisalovesobama
          April 12, 2012 at 2:23 pm

          No. They. Did. Not. This would have been an issue one way or another. Willard knows he and his wife have no general likeability. They needed something that would make them appear sympathetic, that PUMA Rosen gave it to them.
          ps- I’m getting tired of all the Axe and Messina bashing. I’m thinking they know more about running campaigns and messaging than we do. After all, they did help to get President Barack Obama elected.

  41. 225 utaustinliberal
    April 12, 2012 at 11:04 am

    Hey TOD, don’t get into these murky issues meant to distract us from the fact that we need to be working to reelect Pres. Obama and exposing the truth about Romney. Yeah, Rosen’s statement may have some veracity to it, but she made a stupid political gaffe. Axelrod and Messina were correct to distance themselves and the Obama 2012 campaign from her statements. PBO has always said that families are off limits. She could have pointed out that Ann Romney coming from a very privileged background would have no idea how to relate to the average working woman who struggles to put food on the table, clothe, and educate her children.

    That’s not the outrageous issue we should be focusing on. You know what’s outrageous? Romney was hesitant in supporting the Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act that provides equal pay for women, Romney wants to defund Planned Parenthood, Romney supports the idea of the supreme court overturning Roe v. Wade, Romney doesn’t support the Buffett Rule which makes bosses make their fair share in taxes and relieves the burden off secretaries, Romney doesn’t support the Buffett Rule which could provide funds to educate and train future female math teachers, female science teachers, and female engineers, Romney supports the Blunt-Rubio Amendment which is anti-women, Romney hasn’t condemned the 1100 anti-women bills and laws being proposed and enacted by GOP state legislatures, Romney supports the Ryan budget which guts safety programs for middleclass and working class women. Romney supports Scott Walker in WI who has been a terror against women’s rights.

    This is what we should be focusing on, emailing, facebooking, and tweeting about. I certainly have been doing so since yesterday and today. You can use my tweets to come up with more ideas. My twitter handle is @utaustinliberal. Let’s focus on that fight because it’s real, not some 24 hour cable generated chatter.

    • 226 hopefruit2
      April 12, 2012 at 11:08 am


      And I agree that the focus needs to be on the media and Mitt Romney, not on Axelrod and Messina. Since this morning I’ve already been tweeting CNN and MSNBC about their failure to call out Willard for his flagrant refusal to condemn the GOP’s continued war on women.

    • 227 nintendowii10
      April 12, 2012 at 11:08 am

      PRESS ON!!!

    • April 12, 2012 at 11:13 am

      Well said. Plus, Romney didn’t even condemn Limbaugh’s attacks when given the opportunity. Wouldn’t a pro-woman candidate have been absolutely blistering in his condemnation of Rush?

    • 229 nospin
      April 12, 2012 at 5:25 pm

      good post utaustinliberal. I don’t get it. Clearly this is simply a distraction.

  42. 230 AJ
    April 12, 2012 at 11:08 am

    1) If our side’s gonna make “unforced errors”, let’s get them out of the way now. This would’ve been worse if it had happened a few months down the road…

    2) FLOTUS on Colbert. She was amazing, he was even more hysterical than usual. The whole episode’s a must-see:


  43. April 12, 2012 at 11:11 am

    Lol. So, Sununu just held a conference call on behalf of Robney, and he Is mad that the President did not donate to charity, as much as Robney did.
    Are you fricking kidding me?

    • April 12, 2012 at 11:14 am

      First, Romney has a lot more money. Secondly, IIRC, most of Romney’s contributions were in the form of a tithe to the church.

    • April 12, 2012 at 11:18 am

      So right, Jovie. It’s comparing apples and oranges because of their huge income disparity. It’s all so fricking ridiculous; I just hope I can make it to election day without drowning in their garbage.

    • 234 Bill
      April 12, 2012 at 11:19 am

      I have a difficult time considering money donated to the Mormon Church as typical charity. The grandiose Mormon Temples as the one on the Washington beltway do not represent the idea of charity.

    • 235 hopefruit2
      April 12, 2012 at 11:28 am

      PBO’s salary is ~ 0.08% of Willard’s

    • 236 COS
      April 12, 2012 at 11:53 am

      Didn’t Robney donate most of his money to the Mormon church?

    • 237 elo4obama/biden
      April 12, 2012 at 1:16 pm

      The poor man who gives 10 percent of his wealth quietly to charity is much more impressive than a bloated rich man who gives 10 percent to charity only to brag about and expect kudos!

      Our president is not a poor man now, but he has a very generous heart and clearly the Robme campaign knows this!

  44. 238 57andfemale
    April 12, 2012 at 11:15 am

    I’ve so had it with Republicans:

    • April 12, 2012 at 11:20 am

      Who is Jamison Foser? Never heard of him.

      • 240 57andfemale
        April 12, 2012 at 12:26 pm

        I believe the tweet was sarcastic, which is how I took it: where’s your plan for women without nannies and trust funds?

        No one is picking on Ann Romney for staying home to raise her kids. But the majority of women with children have to do everything she did PLUS help pay a mortgage, a car payment and health care and school supplies and………….

        Ann Romney had freedom from worry. Most American families worry all the time. Not everyone has a ‘choice’ to marry a multi-milionaire. Although as she tells it they ‘struggled’ early in their marriage: why they had to sell off some of their investments!

        So the tweet was not about the nontroversy of the benefits of being a stay-at-home mom, but how someone who wants to be President is going to answer the needs of the vast majority of American families.

  45. 241 collegekay
    April 12, 2012 at 11:19 am

    So annoyed with Romney and the MSM already. This is going to be a long campaign.

  46. April 12, 2012 at 11:20 am

    Howdy, TODville.

    Can someone point me to the apology from Axelrod and Messina? I saw them distance themselves from Rosen’s type of comments, but I didn’t see an “apology” per se for her behavior. I was a bit distracted yesterday so I guess I missed it ,so if anyone has a link, I’d appreciate it. Thanks.

    • April 12, 2012 at 11:23 am

      You’re right Meta, there was no apology at all – I have no idea why people are framing it that way.

    • 244 hopefruit2
      April 12, 2012 at 11:25 am

      There was no apology. They simply expressed disapproval of her comments. The folks on Twitter attacking Axelrod and Messina are actually making this more of an issue than Axelrod’s tweet.

      • 245 COS
        April 12, 2012 at 11:51 am

        The folks attacking Axe and Messina are folks who will never vote for PBO anyway. That’s why they are making this such a BFD. I think this whole poutrage by the Romney folks will backfire. The women who called in to Stephanie’s show this morning were not on Romney’s side.

    • 246 collegekay
      April 12, 2012 at 11:27 am

      No apologies from them.

    • April 12, 2012 at 11:29 am

      OK, THANKS so much to all of you. I thought I was missing something important.

      I suggest we move off this BS ASAP. The RW is framing this brouhaha because, basically, they are bone dry after Romney’s airless debut yesterday and they need to grab the spotlight. I’m DONE with their BS.

  47. 249 edwina3
    April 12, 2012 at 11:25 am

    Well, Hilary has certainly suceeded in pulling focus, even here. This will be a BFD for days and I am so glad that Axelod et al immediately distanced themselves. Hilary’s underlying point was valid but the first rule of effective communication is don’t obscure your pov by being inflammatory. I have lost all respect for Hilary with her doubling-down; it tells me that she cares more about her ego than the potential hurt that it will cause Dems. What we don’t need is a new RW martyr and Hilary’s graciousness or lack of it will determine the length of the
    RW martyrdom.

  48. April 12, 2012 at 11:25 am

    Good morning TOD,
    I really think this whole story of Ms. Rosen comment has become a distraction. I am not sure why so many are upset with the campaign’s response. That was the sensible thing to do. I agree that they were also setting boundaries to protect FLOTUS. Remember how strongly the president spoke against attacking the Palin’s children during the 08 campaign. Ms. Rosen is a pundit. She should be able to express herself and understands that there may be backlash with unpopular views. The campaign wasn’t being “amateurish” by distancing themselves from the comment either. No, the right wing will not appreciate it because they want to use it as an opportunity to create confusion. They haven’t been effective with answering why women voters are distancing themselves from the GOP. So, they will hang on to whatever they can and we shouldn’t give it some air to expand. We must remain focus on the big picture. Mrs. Romney could afford to choose to stay at home and raise her children. That must be nice. Most women can’t afford that choice.
    BTW, I loved FLOTUS on the Colbert report last night. That’s the most nervous I’ve ever seen him. I didn’t expect that since Michelle has been on his show before.

  49. 253 Ladyhawke
    April 12, 2012 at 11:32 am


    Wow, have we finally reached a tipping point with Mitt Romney’s lying, distoring and making stuff up? What happened yesterday with the Romney campaign conference call with reporters should be the template going forward. This was long overdue. It’s not that complicated. When the Romney campaign makes an outlandish claim or an outright lie, any self-respecting journalist should challenge them and ensure the facts are reported to the American people.

    What this incident revealed is that the Romeny campaign is on the wrong side of the issue and they have nothing substantive to work with. They looked like complete amateurs. They just didn’t think through what they were doing. And clearly, they didn’t expect to get much pushback from the press. It’s remarkable what can happen when “real journalism” breaks out. Paul Krugman’s article was spot on. The contempt that Romney has for the media and the voters is really shocking. I have never seen anything like this before. Romney is the “Jon Lovitz” presidential candidate. Mendacity has become his stock-in-trade.

    • April 12, 2012 at 11:35 am

      He really is a gaffe machine automaton and apparently so is every member of his staff. I’ve never seen a more tone-deaf, bull-headed, gang of idiots in my life. Ridonculous. Especially when you consider the press is practically buying them lunch every single day.

  50. 255 nintendowii10
    April 12, 2012 at 11:33 am

    IMO, Axlerod’s and Messina’s responses towards Rosen’s comments would have been more appropriate (and less fuel for the right wing) if they had ridiculed Ann Romney for not raising five kids with a limited income, pointing out how Ann said not long ago she doesn’t consider herself “really wealthy” while agreeing with Ann Romney’s position on SAHM’s, as opposed to completely refuting Rosen’s comments.

    Rosen had a point that was badly worded, but Axlerod and Messina’s response were equally bad. Instead of taking the opportunity to ridicule Mitt for hiding behind women and Mitt’s deficit approval amongst women, their responses, noble as they were, just gave the right wing the fuel they need to solidify Ann Romney as their secret weapon and their new female rock star. And to think we’ve got eight more long months of this BS from the right wing!

    • April 12, 2012 at 11:38 am

      “IMO, Axlerod’s and Messina’s responses towards Rosen’s comments would have been more appropriate …. if they had ridiculed Ann Romney for not raising five kids with a limited income, pointing out how Ann said not long ago she doesn’t consider herself “really wealthy” while agreeing with Ann Romney’s position on SAHM’s…..”.

      Oh crikey, Nintendowii, if they’d attacked her like that they’d have been no better than Coulter and Co.

      I don’t want them talking about her at all, but I’m still happy that they defended stay-at-home-mothers.

      • April 12, 2012 at 11:52 am

        Correct. In actuality, attacking her, or even talking about her directly in any sort of a negative way, including talking about Romney hiding behind her, woudl send the message that they are afraid of her far more than what was done.

    • 258 itgurl_29
      April 12, 2012 at 12:01 pm

      No, there is on need to go after the woman. They should have ignored this nonsense instead of taking ownership of it. And then where they were asked about it, they should have praised Ann Romney for raising her 5 sons as a stay at home mom and then run down a list of all the incredible things this President has accomplished on behalf of families and women.

      • 259 lisalovesobama
        April 12, 2012 at 2:46 pm

        No one took ownership of it. They showed leadership and a keen sense of political adroitness in swiftly distancing themselves from Rosen’s hot potato comments. What Rosen said it true in a lot of people’s opinions. However, just because it’s true doesn’t mean you go on national tv and blare it out for all the world to see. It wasn’t a polite thing to do. For all I absolutely dislike Mrs. Money, she isn’t the candidate, her idiot husband is. Stick to mocking the candidate on tv, leave his fool wife out of it.

    • April 12, 2012 at 1:34 pm

      Pres.Obama’s camp cannot say one unkind or critical word about Anne Romney. Ever, ever, ever.

  51. April 12, 2012 at 11:34 am

    Hillary Rosen does not speak for the Obama campaign! However! A drowning rat will hang on to anything to survive and there is no bigger rat than the Repub. party.

  52. 263 Ladyhawke
    April 12, 2012 at 11:41 am


    By Steve Benen


    In case the image isn’t self-explanatory, Team Romney took a look at all the job losses and gains in the American economy, starting on Jan. 1, 2009 (three weeks before President Obama was inaugurated). The Republican campaign then got creative: because male workers saw a more sudden increase in job losses at the beginning of that calendar year, Romney carefully chose the starting date for his analysis that exaggerates the results.

    If he’d started on Feb. 1, 2009, to reflect Obama’s first full month in office, the number for women would have been 300%, instead of 92%. The Romney campaign knows no one would believe such an absurd figure, so they manipulated the figures accordingly.

    The scope of its creativity and dishonesty is almost impressive, in a shameful sort of way.



  53. 264 amk for obama
    April 12, 2012 at 11:42 am

    Ok chips. A new thread. A new subject ? I agree with those that this rosen thingy is a distraction and deadhorse. Time to move on.

  54. 265 hopefruit2
    April 12, 2012 at 11:43 am

    Hey folks – check this out. See the stark difference? It’s mind boggling. Not even Knoller could spin…

    • April 12, 2012 at 11:44 am

      I was just about to post that Hopefruit!

      • 267 hopefruit2
        April 12, 2012 at 11:50 am

        And likely that $12M is just the surface. God knows what he’s hiding in Cayman Islands, Switzerland and elsewhere. His total income for the year was $21.6M. PBO’s was $1.7M.

        The fact that McCain camp switched to Palin after reviewing Romney’s tax returns is a huge red flag – that there’s something VERY revolting to the average voter in this man’s financial record. And I’m not talking about his car elevators.

  55. 268 Me4obama
    April 12, 2012 at 11:47 am

    If PBO picks up the phone & calls Ann Robney the right wing will shut up & go attack Ann for speaking to PBO. A girl can only wish that happens then it will be game over for Willard. 🙂

    • 269 amk for obama
      April 12, 2012 at 11:48 am

      LOL. Good idea.

    • 270 elo4obama/biden
      April 12, 2012 at 1:54 pm

      That is too funny! OK you win for best idea 🙂 I swear of all the arm chair quarterbacking this morning…your idea is brilliant. I would flippin hoot! LOL Absolutely right, game over. 🙂

  56. April 12, 2012 at 11:49 am

    On another note ladies, Chris Noth, Mr. Big, got married … Well, we will always have George 🙂

  57. 273 lamh35
    April 12, 2012 at 11:57 am

    this Hilary Rosen thing is another case where supporters of POTUS are doing the official campaign surrogates like Axelrod and messina a disservice.

    They did not APOLOGIZE for what Hilary Rosen said. They did the same that POTUS would say which is that they do NOT agree with rosen and they called the remark exactly what it was, inappropriate and uncalled for. That’s it and that’s all.

    Let not do the Romney campaign’s job for them. The campaign answwered and that should be it. The MSM will ask of course, but the campaign will do what it should, which is say what Axelrod and Messina did and then pivot to the real world issue at hand, that Romney policies would do nothing for working women AND stay at home moms…period. The campaign will pivot to how Obama’s policy help the AVERAGE stay at home mom (of which Ann Romney IS NOT!!!) more than Romney’s.

    Don’t get into the game of making this more than what it was an unfortunate statement. Say it was unfortuante, and Just keep it moving. Using words like “stupid” and “unforce” does NOTHING, but play this thing on Romney’s terms.

    It’s not true that you win an argument by just fussing and making big long statement about. Say your piece and walk away. If there is no one to argue with, then they are arguing with air, and who argues with air…crazy people. Most logical people don’t listen to the crazies.

    Just keep it moving…i.e. wasn’t FLOTUS great last night on Colbert Report!!!

  58. 275 SmarterThanYou
    April 12, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    Y’all need to calm down. The net effect of Rosen’s comment is that any woman paying attention now know that Romney’s wife has never earned a paycheck in her life, which means that the claim that she understands women’s economic problem is bogus. The only people who will show a faux outrage are conservative stay-home mums, and those will never vote for BO even if he turned out to be Jesus.

    FYI – I have been reading this site for over a year but never posted before. I now use you guys as my one-stop shope for domestic political news.

    • April 12, 2012 at 1:05 pm

      Good to see you here SmarterThanYou, thanks for visiting.

    • April 12, 2012 at 2:05 pm

      “The net effect of Rosen’s comment is that any woman paying attention now know that Romney’s wife has never earned a paycheck in her life,”

      You may be on to something because when I read Rosen’s comment the only that stuck out was that Ann never earned a paycheck. I knew she was rich but I didn’t know THAT.

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