“this is for trayvon”


(Thanks Desertflower)

344 Responses to ““this is for trayvon””

  1. 1 Elle in MI
    April 1, 2012 at 12:52 pm


    • 2 Elle in MI
      April 1, 2012 at 12:55 pm

      I was just viewing this on Smartypants. Also, forensics experts have identified the voice crying out for help belonged to Trayvon. How can any parent not empathize with Trayvon’s family? #justicefortrayvon

      • 3 gn
        April 1, 2012 at 12:58 pm

        I think that the experts have conclusively ruled out George Zimmerman; the words used were “reasonable scientific certainty” that the voice screaming for help was not him. They weren’t able to match Trayvon because they don’t have a good voice sample (they have Zimmerman’s 911 call which presents his voice in a variety of states and turned out to be an excellent sample). I honestly don’t know how anyone could be indifferent or hostile to Trayvon’s family in light of this; totally agreed.

        • 4 sabreen60
          April 1, 2012 at 7:53 pm

          I don’t mean to be offensive, but as far as I’m concerned this is ALL bullshit. Arrest Zimmerman. Put him on trial and let the witnesses be questioned and cross examined. There is NO where in this country where a black person can kill another person, admit to killing him/her and walk away. A FL prosecutor said she has NEVER seen anyone get arrested (they handcuffed Ziimmerman therefore he WAS arrested) then UNARREST him (they let him walk free). She said once someone is handcuffed and taken, in they are ALWAYS fingerprinted and booked. They are NEVER un-arrested. This sinks to high heaven.

          • 5 anniebella
            April 1, 2012 at 10:00 pm

            sabreen60, I am right with you on that. This who situati9on could have been avoided if Zimmerman had did what the dispatcher told him too. Not follow Trayvon Martin. But Zimmerman was determined this “a” hole was not going to get away like he said all the other ones did. And Trayvon didn’t get away, Zimmerman killed him.

      • 6 Hachikō
        April 1, 2012 at 12:59 pm

        It so infuriated me that on her MSNBC show this morning, Alex Witt took the conclusions of two independent experts, using two completely different methods, to EXCLUDE Zimmerman as the person who was screaming, and turned it into, “…these are 2 independent sources, that have both concluded, but not irrefutably, neither have them have reached 100% confirmation that the voice on the tape is NOT George Zimmerman’s, but probably.”

        That is the definition of HACKERY.

        • 7 desertflower
          April 1, 2012 at 1:01 pm

          Wondering why they can’t use his voice from his cell phone?…..

          • 8 Hachikō
            April 1, 2012 at 1:12 pm

            They would have to get that from his parents, no? Zimmerman’s voice on tape was made public when his “friend” Taaffe decided to share the voicemail Zimmerman left him. We have no such public recording of Trayvon.

            • 9 desertflower
              April 1, 2012 at 1:19 pm

              I guess so. If the voice that was yelling for help was not Zimmerman’s…maybe they feel that there is no need, that by virtue of that information that we could assume that the only OTHER voice that COULD be calling for help, would be that of Trayvon?

            • 10 hopefruit2
              April 1, 2012 at 1:42 pm

              From what I’ve read, the parents do not have Trayvon’s cellphone. At this time, although no one seems to know where it is, I would wager that the cellphone is in the hands of the DOJ/FBI who probably retrieved it from the Sanford PD (they were the ones who last had it). The cellphone likely contains key pieces of evidence (assuming they weren’t erased by the Sanford PD), including logs of (1) his girlfriend’s call to him, (2) his father calling him numerous times that night to find out where he was (3) possible voice samples from Trayvon’s recorded voicemail, or other recordings.

              Another point I wanted to make is that people tend to sound like their close relatives (adjusting for age and gender). So Trayvon’s male relatives who are roughly the same age group (e.g., he has a 21 year old half-brother) might be able to give voice samples for analysis. Their voices are more likely to be closer matches to what was heard over the 911 tapes.

              • 11 aquagranny911
                April 1, 2012 at 3:45 pm

                That is so true. Now that my Grandson’s voice has changed he sounds so much like his father when he answers their phone that I can’t always be sure which is which. I’m also told that my Sis & I sound alike also.

              • 12 nathkatun7
                April 1, 2012 at 5:45 pm

                “Another point I wanted to make is that people tend to sound like their close relatives (adjusting for age and gender). So Trayvon’s male relatives who are roughly the same age group (e.g., he has a 21 year old half-brother) might be able to give voice samples for analysis. Their voices are more likely to be closer matches to what was heard over the 911 tapes.”

                This an excellent suggestion. My late brother and I sounded alike that sometimes when I called people on the phone they always mistook me for him.

                • 13 HZ
                  April 1, 2012 at 6:17 pm

                  This is so true, nathkatun7. I sound just like my mother. Exactly. She is deceased, but I even alerted my dear brother shortly after she passed. I was in her room dressing becausing my brother and I were going out, and I was coughing and clearing my throat, and he appeared in a hurry to the room. His eyes told me everything. I will never forget that moment.

                  I am praying that the mother will be able to know her child’s voice above anyone. It has to be there. I pray so.

                  Plus, the DOJ will not permit any work that they are gathering or doing to come out until it is appropriate. They know more that we all know at this point. This is not over by a any means. HZ

                  • 14 nathkatun7
                    April 1, 2012 at 10:23 pm

                    I agree! I trust the DOJ to do a professional job!

                    • 15 aquagranny911
                      April 1, 2012 at 11:32 pm

                      Me too. I know that the FBI has taken some hard knocks in the past but they have some of the best forensic labs & scientists in the world. I trust DOJ & the FBI to do a professional job also.

          • 16 gn
            April 1, 2012 at 1:17 pm

            I think that the 911 tapes of Zimmerman were so valuable because they contained his natural, unaffected voice in several states: calm, agitated, out of breath, etc. I don’t think that they have anything comparable for Trayvon.

          • 17 57andfemale
            April 1, 2012 at 1:23 pm

            Isn’t Trayvon’s cell phone missing?

        • 18 gn
          April 1, 2012 at 1:06 pm

          Totally agreed; she needs to correct her statement as it’s false. The scientists did not say “probably” anything. They are certain.

  2. 23 taiping1
    April 1, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    Thanks Chips!

    • 25 Hachikō
      April 1, 2012 at 12:54 pm

      Still not getting the hang of this embed tweets thing. 😦

      • 26 57andfemale
        April 1, 2012 at 1:27 pm

        I got it:

        Go to the tweet.
        Hit ‘open’
        Hit ‘details’
        Then copy and paste from the address bar [toolbar] AT THE TOP of your screen, where the “www” address is.
        Paste it in a Comment here.

      • 27 Bobfr
        April 1, 2012 at 1:28 pm

        Hi Hachiko,

        Yardarm asked for some help yesterday and I posted this for him. Perhaps it will be useful to you as well.

        Depending on whether you use Twitter itself or an application like TweetDeck, every Tweet has a date/time stamp just as every post on TOD does (if you hover over the date/time under your handle – ‘yardarm756′ – you’ll notice it changes color; if you right click and select copy link then you’re set to re-post it as a unique URL).

        In the Twitter application – you’ll notice that if you hover over the handle of the person whose tweet it is or anywhere along that ‘line’ several options appear like ‘retweet’ ‘reply’ … what also appears is ‘open’ so if you right click on open and select copy link you’ve got what you need. Just open a reply or comment window in any TOD thread and paste. The tweet link URL will appear. When you post, the link will appear as the tweet. When anyone clicks on the date in the tweet it will open the twitter application to that link and they can reply, retweet, etc.

        In Tweetdeck, if you use it, in each tweet block the lower line contains a date/time stamp – right click, select copy link, etc.


  3. 28 Hachikō
    April 1, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    • 29 Hachikō
      April 1, 2012 at 12:55 pm

      still didn’t work. I’m sorry I’m littering this thread. Chips, please delete these comments for me? Thanks.

      • April 1, 2012 at 1:03 pm

        No worries Hachikō, fixed it for you!

      • 32 amk for obama
        April 1, 2012 at 1:50 pm

        Just hover over the tweet. You’ll see a Reply/Retweet/Favorite/Open pop-up. Right click Open, select Copy Link Location and just paste here.

        Depending on the twitter traffic, the full tweet may appear instantly or a little later, but the link will appear immediately after you paste it.

    • 33 Tally
      April 1, 2012 at 2:06 pm


      Sometimes you can’t see that it worked right away on your end. Keep refreshing the page, and you will. 😀

      • 34 Tally
        April 1, 2012 at 2:09 pm

        oh damn. just saw chips post.

        – go to tweet.
        – click OPEN
        – click DETAILS
        – if it gives you CHOICES on different TABS – click EMBED
        – click into the address field, select all, caopy
        – paste here.

        – profit


        Keep trying. The worst that will happen is you’ll fail some more – so what? 😀 BACK ON THAT HORSE!!!!

  4. 37 gn
    April 1, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    I love Bruce Springsteen. Fundamentally decent American.

    • 38 Hachikō
      April 1, 2012 at 12:59 pm

      Indeed. I wept through that performance.

    • April 1, 2012 at 1:21 pm

      He made me jump up and dance with tears running down my cheeks. Thank God the only witness was my cat.

    • 40 utaustinliberal
      April 1, 2012 at 1:49 pm

      He’s the BEST.

      • 41 HZ
        April 1, 2012 at 7:20 pm

        Yes, he is UT. I have a quote in my music room/library: ” Words are the pen of the heart, but music is the pen of the soul.” Zelman.

        However, in this case, I can say they both hit our hearts and our souls.

        I just received a moving letter from Tyler Perry that is so on point. When we all take our voices with the written and music instruments and constantly move with our compositions of ‘energies for justice’ for all, that will be the most worthy call to all mankind.HZ

  5. 42 desertflower
    April 1, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    Must Read: http://www.politicususa.com/stand-your-ground-racists/

    Chips, thank you so much for posting this Springsteen tribute.Like I said, he is a national treasure. A must watch video.

  6. 45 Andy46
    April 1, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    Afternoon TOD,

    Thanks Chipsticks

  7. April 1, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    Tears what a beautiful tribute. Chips you rock!

  8. 56 canadabarb4obama
    April 1, 2012 at 1:10 pm


    • 57 Linda
      April 1, 2012 at 1:14 pm

      Was their a name attached to that , barb ?

    • 58 Hachikō
      April 1, 2012 at 1:14 pm

      A robo call about american politics/elections in Canada? Interesting.

    • 59 Dakota
      April 1, 2012 at 1:18 pm

      Yeah, a source would be helpful to send this to attack watch. Probably should be sent anyway.

    • 60 amk for obama
      April 1, 2012 at 1:22 pm

      Fecking idjits.

    • 61 globalcitizenlinda
      April 1, 2012 at 1:55 pm

      we need to let the Team Obama Campaign headquarters know about this – they can then respond to it.

      Please report any smears of Team Obama that you may hear or receive

    • 62 Tally
      April 1, 2012 at 2:10 pm

      I thought robo ca lls were illegal now.

      • 63 Pamela
        April 1, 2012 at 5:00 pm

        That is what I understand to be true, but some groups are still delivering them. If I pick up one for my little old lady, I wait on the line, then get a live person, then ask to have the name and number removed. If you tell them to do this, they are legally bound to comply. Sometimes the f-ers just hang up really fast when they get where you are coming from… Pisses me off…

    • 64 57andfemale
      April 1, 2012 at 7:09 pm

      I also read today that HufPo is making ads slamming PBO. She made over 100M bucks using the hard work of everyone else, their lawsuit just go thrown out of court, and she’s using her mega millions to hurt PBO.

      I do understand that the bloggers signed an agreement that exposure was the only renumeration. But they didn’t expect her cash windfall either.

      That’s what Arianna Huffington is doing with her money from AOL. Despicable.

  9. 65 Dakota
    April 1, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    I love me some Bruce, always have and this video explains why. I cried when I first heard this song and I’m crying today.

    • April 1, 2012 at 1:21 pm

      Tears are streaming down my face as I type. Music can touch in ways that words alone fail.
      Pardon my ignorance, but can anyone tell me the meaning of “41 shots”? Thanks. And thanks to desertflower for bringing this to Ms. Chipsticks attention and thanks to Ms. Chipsticks for showcasing it. I love this place.

      • 67 Dakota
        April 1, 2012 at 1:24 pm

        Bruce wrote this song in memory of Amadou Diallo who was shot 41 times by NYC police while reaching for his wallet. Of course, the police were aquitted.

        • April 1, 2012 at 1:30 pm

          Thanks, Dakota. The “41” had me perplexed as I didn’t know that Amadou Diallo was shot 41!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! times. That number of shots just seemed outside the realm of possibility, of reason, of sanity and humanity.

        • 70 Linda
          April 1, 2012 at 1:33 pm

          I think his mother was on Melissa Harris Perry yesterday.

      • 71 desertflower
        April 1, 2012 at 1:29 pm

        Springsteen reprised his original reason for writing this song. The 41 shots refers to this man that the NYPD killed in cold blood. In light of the Trayvon Martin shooting, this song was played in Trayvon’s honor. This scenario, it would seem, plays out far too often.

      • 72 busbus
        April 1, 2012 at 1:59 pm

        This is a reprisal of a song Bruce Springsteen wrote years ago about the killing of Amadou Diallo who was shot by four New York police officers. The officers shot forty-one times and nineteen of the bullets hit and killed Diallo. Diallo was standing at the door of his apartment building. When he reached in his pocket to get his wallet, the officers said that they thought that he was going for a gun. Anyway, the officers were tried and acquitted.

        So, to answer your question, the “41” shots in the song is related to the forty-one shots of those New York police officers.

        • 73 vcprezofan2
          April 1, 2012 at 2:22 pm

          Why aren’t security personnel trained to shoot to disarm/incapacitate? Why is it always shoot to kill? Yes there are situations when they may be in a life or death situation, but there has got to be lots of times when shooting someone in the hand/leg might be enough of a deterrent. Zimmerman could easily have shot to incapacitate, since he felt ‘threatened’ as he KNEW the police were on their way. Of course, had he done so, he wouldn’t have felt such freedom to manipulate his tale.

  10. April 1, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    The people from my town who were featured on that Dateline segment with Brokaw re. hiring vets have received a WH invitation to attend Michelle and Jill’s one year Joining Forces anniversary party next month. I was really irritated at the time because nowhere in the report was there any mention of all the work the Obamas and Bidens have done in this area. At least now there will be proper recognition.

  11. 75 bjw2
    April 1, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    Wow…simply powerful.
    Thank you Chips for dedicating a page to Trayvon along with this song.

  12. 78 hopefruit2
    April 1, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    Very moving tribute by the Boss. Thanks, Bruce.

    The Zimmerman “self-defense” BS is falling apart. Furthermore, this voice analysis is further evidence that the “Stand Your Ground” law doesn’t even apply in this case because Trayvon was not the aggressor – he was clearly the threatened one who was desperately pleading for help when he realized that his life was in serious danger.

    The voice analysis, along with the inconsistencies in the two versions of the police report which do not match was was seen on the surveillance video are quite damning against Zimmerman camp and the Sanford PD.

    • 79 vcprezofan2
      April 1, 2012 at 2:25 pm

      Hf, I read somewhere that ‘liberals’ tampered with the police video so as to hide the cleaned up injuries. No, I didn’t bother to save the link which I stumbled onto by following a tweet. Just wasn’t worth it.

      • 80 hopefruit2
        April 1, 2012 at 4:29 pm

        LOL! And ‘liberals’ must have produced a second copy of the police report too, right?

    • 82 57andfemale
      April 1, 2012 at 1:39 pm

      Do you get the feeling that even Republican -leaning businesses are getting uneasy with the Republican party as it stands today?

      I read where local chambers of commerce are becoming alarmed — they DO rely on road jobs, etc. for their businesses and blind Republican ideology is hurting business. I read this in relation to the transportation bill.

      It was bad enough when it was all cynicism and they won elections on social issues and ‘small government’ and never intended to do any of the things they ran on. Now, we have the tea party running Congress and they mean it. As Joe Biden said, this time they’re actually saying what they mean and will do what they say. I remember during the debt ceiling crisis, the House leadership brought in economists to explain to the many freshmen congressmen how the debt ceiling worked and they laughed at the economists!

      Hey there are plenty oil execs and Sheldon Adelsons to do all they can to elect Republicans and gouge as much profit as they can as fast as they can, but my gut feeling is that there are businessmen in America who actually see how well PBO has done for them, and might actually be willing to put up a solar panel or two and hire an American worker in order to succeed.

      If Republicans do what they say they are going to do, America falls apart. I think there might be a ‘silent majority’ of Republican businessmen who don’t want to see that happen.

      • 83 desertflower
        April 1, 2012 at 1:53 pm

        I’m pretty sure that you’re right about that….Republicans that understand this, will not vote for Romney and are beginning to see that these guys have gone off the rails. As the President said the other day, even Abraham Lincoln would not be welcomed in to their party today.

  13. 84 desertflower
    April 1, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    There is something fundamentally wrong with this lying POS pol.


    “Barack Obama is an elitist, my goodness the man went to Harvard!” Mitt Romney who graduated from Harvard, JD with an MBA

    Remarkable how he does this all the time. It’s almost as if it was intentional. If it’s not, I don’t think he’s capable of talking so much.

    I can only assume that PBO is “elitist” because he was a BLACK man that went to Harvard to advance himself? He’s repulsive.

    • 85 57andfemale
      April 1, 2012 at 1:29 pm

      And instead of serving in Vietnam, he ‘evangelized’ on the Riviera. How much more elitist do you get than that?!?!

      • 86 desertflower
        April 1, 2012 at 1:33 pm

        Truly. He’s so pathetic. Hypocrite be thy name.

        • 87 57andfemale
          April 1, 2012 at 1:41 pm

          John Kerry had to be defeated because he spoke French. This lying sack of crap actually lived in France, ‘converting’ the jet set to Mormonism. And yet 40% of Americans will vote for him, without a thought.

          • 88 desertflower
            April 1, 2012 at 1:54 pm

            Willful ignorance on display. I hate stupid.

            • 89 Left-Indie
              April 1, 2012 at 6:05 pm

              Cuz they hates one O. Hussein Obama. Cuz the pastor said he a secret moooslum hating on Izreal. He for sho gonna hand the holy land to them Ayrabs ‘n them. Where’s Jesus supposed to land when he come down if the land is full them towel-head sand n…. Here’s the thing, we always had stupid, we just never catered to them in this way before. Thanx to the t-party. Thanks to Dems who stayed home in 2010. Thanx to the fickle young, who I’m really not so sure about on 2012 either.

      • April 1, 2012 at 1:45 pm

        The good news, 57, is the more everyday Americans see Romney, the less they like him. What he is TRYING to do is implement the Rovian tactic of projection. I’m not saying re-electing PBO will be the proverbial walk in the park but I DO think his tactics and strategy will ultimately backfire. Romney is not dealing with a neophyte who can just bomb PBO with negative ads into oblivion.

        P.S. Glad you’re back.

        • 91 57andfemale
          April 1, 2012 at 1:50 pm

          I completely agree. It’s not going to be a walk in the park, but there is something fundamentally disturbing about a candidate who becomes more disliked the more people see and hear him.

          I’m glad to be back. I am humbled that people made me feel so welcome. I also feared that my husband would throw me out on the street if I didn’t have the TOD family to talk to.

    • 92 Dakota
      April 1, 2012 at 1:45 pm

      People like him have lied about the character and achievements of Black people forever. Now they have no choice but to resort to calling us uppity if we achieve..like it’s a bad thing. Elitist is just a code word for uppity. I can’t wait to see the President grind his smug, repugnant face into the asphalt!

    • April 1, 2012 at 3:29 pm

      LOL!! “Harvard wasn’t an elitist school when I was going there. Okay maybe it was but that’s beside the point.” Oh Mitt.

    • 94 Cha
      April 1, 2012 at 4:37 pm

      Bush went to Yale and got an MBA..we don’t need another republicon with a degree in business to ruin America. bush may have well have majored in lying to the America People. Same sick story for willard.

      • 95 nathkatun7
        April 2, 2012 at 1:16 am

        George W. Bush went both to Yale and Harvard, yet he was widely depicted by the media as a man of the people; some one the average Joe would want to have a beer with. Romney is capitalizing on the image of President Obama, as an arrogant and elite person, created and perpetuated by the “Elite” media, just because the President was not so much into socializing with the elite Washington media. Every time I see President Obama, he is the one out there having a good time with the people, both here and abroad. I hope this time the Rove tactics of negatively attacking the opponents strength will backfire. People, as is evidenced by the children’s love for him, know that this President genuinely cares for the people. I am sure this time people will trust their eyes, and the loving hugs they receive from President Obama, and not the Rovian inspired propaganda.

  14. 96 canadabarb4obama
    April 1, 2012 at 1:26 pm


  15. 97 0388jojothecat
    April 1, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    Good Sunday Morning Chips, TOD Family, and CONGRATULATIONS COLLEGKAY!

  16. 98 globalcitizenlinda
    April 1, 2012 at 1:30 pm

    Trayvonn’s death was an unneccessary tragedy!!!

    People are too quick to pull a gun because too many guns are in circulation among ordinary Americans.

    In my state the rightwingers recently passed a law that it is okay to carry a gun into a bar – talk about ultimate stupidity of mixing guns and booze

  17. 99 desertflower
    April 1, 2012 at 1:37 pm

    Head’s Up…check your receipts and statements!


    You should pay close attention to your accounts, but as one quoted expert says, you need to be especially vigilant right now:

    Visa and MasterCard acknowledged Friday that they’ve been alerting banks about a major breach at Global Payments, an Atlanta-based payment card processing firm.

    Global Payments issued a statement late Friday saying it discovered the breach in March and reported it to industry officials and the FBI. The company scheduled a press conference for Monday morning.

    Gartner banking security analyst Avivah Litan says unverified reports point to a New York City street gang with Central American ties taking control of “an administrative account that was not protected sufficiently.”

  18. 100 Blue
    April 1, 2012 at 1:42 pm

    Here the clip with the First Lady given the Nick award to Taylor Swift!

  19. 102 Bobfr
    April 1, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    And Gabby, and Reagan, and Brady, and the father of one of my dearest friends, …………………………………………………. endless list of senseless, hate and fear driven murder …….. that was never the intent of the 2nd Amendment and it is long past time that we rectify the situation.



  20. 104 hopefruit2
    April 1, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    The world is watching:

    • 105 globalcitizenlinda
      April 1, 2012 at 1:58 pm

      it appears that this will be big.

      I do not know if numbers released before an event are better than those at the actual event since there is always undercounting of the attendees.

      I will be watching

    • 106 lamh35
      April 1, 2012 at 6:33 pm

      when is the rally?

  21. 107 hopefruit2
    April 1, 2012 at 2:01 pm

    MSNBC continues their “We heart Romney” campaign.

    • 108 Debz
      April 1, 2012 at 2:08 pm

      They can try to promote Mittens all they want, He is what he is and no one is going to buy what they are selling. What is truly amazing is that they keep trying to convince themselves the Mitt will take a month or two off and return a a different person for the GE. Like Palin, every time Mittens opens his mouth, people like him less, he cant change that even with the help of the talking heads.

      • 109 57andfemale
        April 1, 2012 at 4:13 pm

        Ultimately the question is: how will Romney govern differently than Bush?

        Answer: Bush on steroids. Tax cuts on steroids. Deregulation on steroids. Gambling with the money you deposit in your bank account on steroids. Hate on steroids. Disdain for the 99% on steroids.

        Bring it on.

        • 110 jackiegrumbacher
          April 1, 2012 at 4:59 pm

          He will be the Koch Brothers puppet. He’ll do whatever they say and sign whatever they approve of. If there’s Supreme Court vacancy, he’ll pick the Brothers candidate. It won’t really be Willard governing. Hell be the front for Dave and Charlie.

          • 111 57andfemale
            April 1, 2012 at 6:31 pm

            this is why he scares me more than any of them: he has no soul, he has no conscience. He will do what he is told and not lose a moment’s sleep about it. Terrifying.

    • 112 desertflower
      April 1, 2012 at 2:08 pm

      We got Beck kicked off the tube, we can do it again….these for profit liars are disgusting. Don’t watch.

    • 113 Linda
      April 1, 2012 at 2:25 pm

      I don’t believe many people watch those shows.

      I was looking at the ratings for the first quarter yesterday……CNN is lower than MSNBC and they are pretty bad ….

      Chuck Todd came in last again and Andrea Mitchell did not even make the top 30.

      Fox still has that all locked up…but considering the number of people in this country…I am not sure their numbers matter much either.
      They are down 17 % over the past year. O’Reilly only gets about 2 million….

      • 114 0388jojothecat
        April 1, 2012 at 4:07 pm

        People are “hate” fatigued. We need to have another “real” campaign against the 99%. Working everyday poor black, white, brown, asian, etc., who are just tired of the media ignoring the truth. They put these “pretty” and empty headed idiots on teevee who are reading the news copy of their corporate bosses.

  22. 115 Tally
    April 1, 2012 at 2:22 pm

    This whole thing enrages me to know end.

    Let’s pretend this was between two white men, or brown men, or black men, or asian chicks, or two of THE SAME WHATEVER. The shooter in EVERY FUCKING CASE – including THIS ONE – should have been ARRESTED, charges brought, then they could apply the insane Stand Your Ground rule AFTER all the evidence was presented.

    That didn’t happen, there is a coverup, and now the country is more on fire than before, because the law was ignored and many CAVE DWELLERS are acting like Trayvon’s race wasn’t the issue, when clearly it was.

    This is bigger than Trayvon & Zimmerman.

    This is about a super-corrupt little community protecting not only the son of the local retired magistrate, but about their own lazy asses who knew about Zimmerman’s obsession with his Neighborhood Watching, and should have stopped it ages ago, like maybe with the 6th or 7th 911 call.

    I have to say, I’m kind of glad that something has awakened the masses. These monsters have been attacking, demeaning, and disrespecting our POTUS since day ONE – because of the color of his skin. PERIOD.

    It shouldn’t have taken the murder of a child to show how much racism there is here in the US.

    But I am THRILLED TO INFINITY there is so much rage and push back. It’s about fucking TIME.

    • 116 Tally
      April 1, 2012 at 2:23 pm

      FORFUCKSAKE – “to NO end.”

      I need another cup of tea. *puts kettle back on

      • 117 hopefruit2
        April 1, 2012 at 2:29 pm

        Tally puts the kettle on (x3)
        We all have tea

        But jokes asid, I echo every sentiment you’ve expressed in your comment above!

      • 120 Pamela
        April 1, 2012 at 5:27 pm

        We knew what you meant, Tally, and so many of us are in total solidarity with you, praying for Trayvon and his family, it is too great a sacrifice for anyone to make. This is not going to go away, people all over the world will stand for justice. I just made a cup of tea, as well, hope it helps calm the nerves.

    • 121 aquagranny911
      April 1, 2012 at 4:32 pm

      Agreed & I think you also hit the nail about “super-corrupt little community” protecting certain members. I’ve lived in small towns & seen this often. In one place the Police Chief’s son was a real little hoodlum who never got any consequence for his actions until he tried out that behavior outside his father’s influence & went to jail. Fortunately this Kiddo didn’t kill anyone. It was mostly petty theft, property damage & driving like a maniac while drunk but I shudder to think what he might have done with a gun if he had one.

      The racism is, of course, pervasive through out this incident but it also whiffs of that nasty corruption that can be a part of some small communities. The hardest thing for me to deal with here is: WHY HASN’T ZIMMERMAN BEEN ARRESTED??? This is for the investigators to sort out & the courts to try, not the media. Especially since the mission of some is to trash the victim, blame his parents & try to white-wash (no pun intended) Trayvon’s killer.

      And do not even get me started on the issue of an armed society & “stand your ground” laws.

    • 123 GGail
      April 1, 2012 at 7:25 pm

      I read some of the comments on the smartypants Bruce vid and there was a comment from a woman who sounded so much like you! She took this poor dude to the woodshed and opened up a can of whoop-azz on him and I said to myself “that sounds like Tally”. And now after reading your comments – I KNOW IT WAS YOU!!!!

      U GO TALLY!!!!

      • 124 Tally
        April 1, 2012 at 8:36 pm

        The comment to Bill was me. About him using the term WHITE PEOPLE need to blaaaah…… ? yeah, that just rubbed me the wrong way today. I know what he meant, and I agree with most of it. But it’s CAVE DWELLERS not White People. Cave Dwellers come in every shape and size. And every race, creed, religion, and region has their share of them. If everyone was forced to travel to other countries as part of their education, and everyone swam with (non-confined) dolphins and had a massage once a week, this world would be a MUCH BETTER PLACE.

        • 125 yardarm756
          April 1, 2012 at 9:39 pm

          I would add one more thing Tally and that is to build your life in a hostile environment that has a dubious escape route.

          • 126 Tally
            April 1, 2012 at 10:51 pm

            I’m sorry. I have no idea what that means.

            • 127 yardarm756
              April 1, 2012 at 11:08 pm

              That signifys me and every other brother that has had to run the gauntlet to manhood without getting in “the system” or getting shot. Survive that and the rest is gravy. Dig it?

  23. 128 desertflower
    April 1, 2012 at 2:22 pm

    Another MUST READ from Charles Pierce.


    The assault on Trayvon Martin’s character implicitly argues that he was expendable, too, the once-living price we “all” have to pay to be free in the exercise of our Second Amendment rights. It began almost immediately after he hit the pavement. They drug-tested him, but not the man who shot him. Now, we’ve got conservative “journalists” creepy-crawling through every aspect of his life to find some reason… well, to find some reason for what? That he was a kid who tweeted silly stuff, posted some silly stuff on Facebook, and once got suspended because he was found with a bag that may once have held marijuana? This is not a search for justice. It’s a search for an alibi, and it’s a search through some of the uglier aspects of American society to find the oldest, cheapest alibi of all — that the lives of black children are less important than the right of someone to pack heat, that the lives of black children must needs always take a back seat to fear, that black children in this country are bargaining chips, and not very valuable ones at that.

    THEN he goes on to speak about our selfishness. Awesome column.

    • 129 a4alice
      April 1, 2012 at 5:38 pm

      tweeted DF

    • 130 Dona
      April 1, 2012 at 9:14 pm

      According to Morning Joe, they crawl through his pics looking for the worst, overlooking pictures of him with a birthday cake, fishing with his dad and other normal stuff. If you should go on the facebook page of most young men today, they have pics with their pants down, tattoos, girlss, party pictures as well as normal family pictures. It’s no big deal.

    • 131 nathkatun7
      April 2, 2012 at 2:09 am

      Thank you so much Desertflower for always sharing some of the most compelling reads! I always enjoy and benefit from the links you bring to this site. Charles Pierce is doing an incredible job of exposing the depth of the right wing nightmare that is being unleashed against this country.

  24. 132 Bobfr
    April 1, 2012 at 2:27 pm

    Least we forget ….




  25. April 1, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    Can ya’ll believe this shit? Sarah motherf-ng Palin to host the motherf-ing Today Show? WTF? is wrong with these people. The MSM just continues to mainstream these vile idiots.

    • 135 ctgirl7
      April 1, 2012 at 2:50 pm

      So this is real! I thought it was an April 1st prank. Wow! Talk about the liberal media!

      • April 1, 2012 at 3:06 pm

        I keep trying to find out if it is and so far no one has said it was an April Fool’s joke. I hope I’m wrong. I so so so hop I am wrong.

        • 137 relellit
          April 1, 2012 at 9:30 pm


          I may have nailed it. This site is uncertain but he points why it could be a prank.

          Palin is still under contract to Fox News. Her exclusivity has been exercised on a strict basis, keeping her from appearing on most other media, even for an interview. She has appeared only once on one of the non-Fox Sunday news programs in this election cycle. When she made her announcement that she was not going to be a candidate for the GOP presidential nomination on Mark Levin’s radio show, her boss, Roger Ailes, exploded with rage saying that “I paid her for two years to make this announcement on my network.” It seems unlikely that her appearance as a co-host on a competing network (especially their nemesis, NBC) would be permitted under the circumstances.

          Of course the primary reason that Palin doesn’t do other media is that she is unable to form a coherent thought and knows that she would embarrass herself by attempting to do so. Any news anchor other than a friendly Fox colleague would stump her mercilessly by asking gotcha questions like “What do you think about that, Sarah?”

          I have no evidence that the promo for Palin’s Today Show stint


    • 138 Linda
      April 1, 2012 at 2:57 pm

      That has to be a prank….she has a contract with Pox

    • April 1, 2012 at 3:09 pm

      I forgot to add that news says its a guest hosting for Tuesday. Not permanent…..yet. I sent a tweet asking everyone NOT to watch. I know how folks love to watch her fumble.

      • 143 Linda
        April 1, 2012 at 3:22 pm

        Well… I don’t watch that junk anyway………Do they think this is a plus for ratings ? hahahhaha

        Other high-profile guests appearing on “Today” this week are “Octomom” Nadya Suleman, Kim Kardashian, the Duggar family and rapper Nicki Minaj.

        Seriously ? Those people are ratings magnets ?

    • 145 0388jojothecat
      April 1, 2012 at 3:50 pm

      Is it because Katy Couric is now on CBS? hahahahaha.

      • April 1, 2012 at 5:27 pm

        I thought she was on ABC? either way, I’m not watching any of these shows. In fact I don’t even watch morning shows but it just makes me gag that NBC and these other channels are such ratings whores.

    • 147 jackiegrumbacher
      April 1, 2012 at 5:06 pm

      The show will have to run subtitles so that people can make out her word salads. Best thing to do is warn friends and families not to watch–save their blood pressure, lower the ratings.

    • 149 joanshaw
      April 1, 2012 at 6:22 pm

      The line I laughed at mostly was, “When you ask Mitt Romney how he feels about a thing, you unavoidably affect how he feels about it.”

      I’ve always understood that measuring something unavoidably affects the result, so that the results of the measurement can’t be certain — an example of the Uncertainty Principle. Though the author uses “Entanglement” as his subheading, and it’s certainly a fear of getting entangled that keeps him weaving back and forth like Muhammad Ali’s butterfly. (I can’t argue with either expert.)

      • 150 joanshaw
        April 1, 2012 at 6:41 pm

        I forgot to mention that that measurement anomaly is in quantum physics in which things measured are very, very small.

  26. April 1, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    I love Abby on NCIS, take a look at the pic she tweeted ( hope it works)


    • 152 utaustinliberal
      April 1, 2012 at 3:19 pm

      Helped you out with the link: http://twitpic.com/94cfnb

      Cool. She’s an #Obama2012 supporter.

    • 154 aquagranny911
      April 1, 2012 at 4:04 pm

      Great share! I love Abby too. Did you know that she actually started out to be a forensic investigator in real life? She wanted to work for the FBI. I thought that was pretty cool. Actually all the characters on NCIS are great together & are what make that show so good, imo. Of course, Gibbs, the “silver haired fox” is totally on my Bucket List just after Antonio Banderas.

    • 155 Cha
      April 1, 2012 at 4:45 pm

      Thanks CT & UT..I really like Pauley Perrette..Love that she’s wearing that Obama Tee Tank!

  27. April 1, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    By Rachel Leven – 04/01/12 12:32 PM ET
    President Barack Obama hit the links Sunday for the first time in 2012, according to a pool report.

    The press did not see who Obama’s golf-partners were late Sunday morning.

    • 157 Ladyhawke
      April 1, 2012 at 5:15 pm

      Time out. Hold on just a minute. You’re telling me that President Obama had the audacity to play golf on Sunday morning after the Dow closed above 13,000 on Friday? How dare he? And don’t the American people have a right to know exactly who he was playing golf with?

      • April 1, 2012 at 5:28 pm

        The rest of the article was even worse.

        • 159 Ladyhawke
          April 1, 2012 at 5:57 pm

          I couldn’t bring myself to read the article. The media obsession with President Obama having any down time is really disgusting. All you have to do is look at the latest west wing week to see he has been working overtime. They ignored him while he was in South Korea (except for the hot mic incident). Now they want to focus on a golf game. That’s what passes for journalism these days. It’s pathetic.

  28. 160 lamh35
    April 1, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    Great post from kay at Balloon Juice on SCOTUS and the inappropriate partisanship of Scalia et al. It’s a good read.


    • 171 globalcitizenlinda
      April 1, 2012 at 4:59 pm

      thanks very much for this video clip about the commissioning of the Stratton

    • 172 Bobfr
      April 1, 2012 at 5:29 pm

      Thank you Chips for the videos. Hope you are enjoying your Sunday afternoon. Sent you a DM on Twitter.


  29. April 1, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – U.S.-operated drones carried out deadly missile strikes against suspected al Qaeda targets in Pakistan and Yemen on Friday, U.S. government sources said.

    There was no connection between the targets in the two locations, other than the fact that both sets of militants who were attacked were believed to have had some connection with al Qaeda affiliates, according to the sources.

    Reports from Aden said that at least five suspected al Qaeda militants traveling in a car in southern Yemen’s Shabwa province were killed when a drone strike set their vehicle on fire. Witnesses said a second drone hit an empty building.


  30. April 1, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    Two weeks ago, Brown was up on Warren by ten points. Then, last week, Warren was up 5 on two polls.
    Now, the Boston Globe has a new poll and has Brown leading by 2.
    In other words, these polls have not a clue, but is suggesting it will be razor thin.
    Also, the President is up 16 over Robney in Mass.

    • 175 donna dem 4 obama
      April 1, 2012 at 4:49 pm

      “Also, the President is up 16 over Robney in Mass” – Jovie, I think this is the key. Ms. Warren will get the benefit of the President’s coattails in that state. I’m hoping for a clear, decisive win with PBO at the top of the ticket.

      • 176 jackiegrumbacher
        April 1, 2012 at 5:11 pm

        Donna, I agree that’s the key. Warren could not be running in a better year and PBO’s coattails will be big in MA.

    • 177 globalcitizenlinda
      April 1, 2012 at 4:55 pm

      I hope Warren win big against that centerfold brown.

    • 178 hopefruit2
      April 1, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    • 179 57andfemale
      April 1, 2012 at 6:17 pm

      I sent her a few bucks yesterday. I really, really, really want this seat back in Democratic hands, and I particularly want Elizabeth Warren in the Senate.

      The volatility and closeness of these polls really disturbs me. This should be a year that we shouldn’t have to worry about a state like Massachusetts.

  31. 180 donna dem 4 obama
    April 1, 2012 at 5:08 pm


    After grad job slump, big hiring is back at U.S. colleges

    NEW YORK (Reuters) – Sean Chua expected the hunt for his first job after college to be tough. After all, he watched his brother struggle to find a position when he graduated back in 2008.

    But his fears were unwarranted. The 21-year-old justice major at American University sent out only seven resumes before getting an offer earlier this month from IBM for an IT consulting job, making him a beneficiary of a turnaround in the labor market for U.S. graduates. “My mom’s first position was with IBM so she is particularly proud,” says Chua.


    • 181 jackiegrumbacher
      April 1, 2012 at 5:15 pm

      This is not only good news for the graduates themselves, but it sends a ripple effect through families, who talk to friends, who talk to neighbors, etc, etc. Soon everyone starts feeling a little more confidence and a little more convinced that the worst is over and the economy is improving and they tell their friends, who tell their families, who tell their neighbors, etc. Pretty soon a whole community is starting to feel better and the feeling becomes reality.

    • 183 Linda
      April 1, 2012 at 5:49 pm

      That was hard to listen to……but what a nice brother..

    • 184 Betty's Girl
      April 1, 2012 at 6:08 pm

      Thanks for posting Oxfarm! What a handsome and well spoken young man. It was very difficult to watch because he seem stunned by everything especially his brother’s death.

      • 185 Oxfarm
        April 1, 2012 at 6:18 pm

        I have been angry and in lots of quiet tears over this case, but this interview broke me up fully. Just bawling.They were obviously close, so much so that the elder even struggles to explain what his brother was like to an outsider. And in a shorter version, there is footage of Jahvaris walking away. Tall. incredibly lanky, and it occurred to me again that someone picked a fight with him thinking he might be easy prey. Well, we will not be easy this time, no. Same as Jahvaris says he is at school because of him, we will not be easy as well.

  32. 186 vcprezofan2
    April 1, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    How Billionaires Destroy Democracy – http://www.salon.com/2012/04/01/how_billionaires_destroy_democracy/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    In the arena of political commentary, few things are considered more clearly below-the-belt than comparing an opponent to Hitler. So there was a small stir in August 2010 when it was reported that Schwarzman — whom Time magazine had included on its 100 most influential people list only three years earlier — had likened Obama to the Nazi strongman. Schwarzman acknowledged making the remark and then apologized for it, while reaffirming the sentiment behind it. But what was striking about the Hitler comment — besides its sheer viciousness and absurdity — was what had provoked it. Schwarzman wasn’t complaining about undue military force, torture, or ethnic cleansing. He was likening the president to the most reviled man in history on the grounds that Obama was trying to close a tax loophole that allowed hedge fund and private equity managers (like Schwarzman) to pay tax at a rate that Warren Buffett famously noted was lower than that paid by their secretaries.

    In an era marked by gluttony and hubris, Steve Schwarzman has still managed to stand out.


  33. April 1, 2012 at 5:57 pm

    As some of you know, my husband is hiking the AT. Few minutes ago I went back to his computer to work on our banking/financial stuff, update the checkbook, etc. His email is “up”. I saw the following subject: Rasmussen — 49% trust Republicans more on economy. I knew I couldn’t click on it because he would know I had done so. I came to my computer and Googled that and found this: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/trust_on_issues. We can certainly guess who those 1000 people were who were polled, huh? So sad that my husband sees this, reads it and totally believes every word of it.


    • 188 anniebella
      April 1, 2012 at 6:16 pm

      I feel sorry for your husband too. There is no where in hell I believe that poll. It’s alot of B.S.

    • 190 Linda
      April 1, 2012 at 6:24 pm

      “Independent Pollster” Scott Rasmussen Headlines Republican Fundraisers

      On his website and during interviews, Scott Rasmussen portrays himself as an “independent pollster” who doesn’t have a stake in the fortunes of either political party. Yet Rasmussen, who has been criticized for producing polling that favors conservatives, recently headlined two Republican fundraisers.

      On February 11, Rasmussen was the keynote speaker at the Twin Falls Lincoln Day Celebration, which benefited the Republican Party of Twin Falls County, Idaho. Ticket packages for the dinner ran from $75 for general seating to $2,5000 for an eight person “platinum table.” Republicans could also attend a $250 “Private VIP Reception” with Rasmussen; buy an autographed copy of Rasmussen’s book ($25); and take a picture with Rasmussen ($25).

      Event chairwoman Mya Goodman told Media Matters in an email that the party paid Rasmussen a fee of $15,000 plus travel to speak and the party chose Rasmussen “because we felt that his topic would be interesting and relevant to the current election cycle.”

      The following week, Rasmussen headlined a February 18 Lincoln Day fundraiser for the Manatee County Republican Party of Florida. Tickets for the event were reportedly $100. An email to the party was not returned. Local party chairwoman Kathleen King said in a December press release: “Rasmussen is a reliable and driving force in American Politics. Party activists are excited to hear what Rasmussen has to say when all eyes are watching the evolving contest for the Republican presidential nominee and the future make-up of the U.S. House and Senate.”


    • 194 nintendowii10
      April 1, 2012 at 6:26 pm

      Rasmussen is a Republican pollster… plus polls at this point are meaningless. The Republicans don’t even have an official nominee yet for President, and a lot of them are putting their feet in their mouths, like Joe Walsh insulting Tammy Duckworth.

  34. 195 yardarm756
    April 1, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    Trayvon and Florida are not isolated. Don’t be black and running. It could cost you your life.

  35. 196 Linda
    April 1, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    Daily Kos has a diary up about Arianna Huffington …she is supposedly doing a series that is ” satire ” but they are really hit pieces….

    What can we do about it ????

    “Hey Obama, Thanks for Not Doing Much So We Still Have the Same Amount of Hope”


    I saw it on her site…but never clicked on it.. I did wonder why it was posted on the front page for days…

    And if it satire….why is it in the politics section and not the comedy section ?

    • 197 nintendowii10
      April 1, 2012 at 6:23 pm

      Arianna is a Republican who was mentored by the late Andrew Breitbart, so I don’t give a rat’s ass what she believes. Remember, she wanted Vice President Biden to resign because he disagreed with President Obama’s Afghanistan strategy, and I’ve noticed that she’s repeated Republican talking points whenever she makes the media rounds.

      • April 1, 2012 at 6:58 pm

        She is a Republican, period. Woman has never changed. She duped a bunch of progressives to get her site started. When she opens her mouth it is no different than Joe Scarborough, Mitt or any of the other GOPers.

    • 199 utaustinliberal
      April 1, 2012 at 6:31 pm

      I saw one of the satire pieces on a couple of the news shows and it was not funny. It’s disgusting and to think she keeps churning them out one after the other. She’s a diseased cretin and is the scum of the earth.

      • April 1, 2012 at 6:37 pm

        Obsessed with ragging on the President.
        I think she thinks it’s funny.

        • 201 99ts
          April 2, 2012 at 3:15 am

          Like many in the media who think they are important – she is obsessed with being noticed by the President – and will try negative when nothing else works. Not worth bothering with.

    • April 1, 2012 at 6:34 pm

      It was shown on sunday shows. Nothing ever about Republicans.

    • 203 yardarm756
      April 1, 2012 at 6:35 pm

      I don’t understand. Are you a cheerleader for Dailykos or HuffPuff?

  36. 205 nintendowii10
    April 1, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    I’ve never seen so much ugliness in my lifetime until President Obama became President. It’s like the racists came out of the woodwork and yet want to deny their racism, i.e the birthers and those who believe Obama is a Muslim. And now we have this dilemma with Trayvon Martin, where so many people out there want to defend the killer and make the deceased the enemy. I seriously hope Trayvon Martin’s family gets the justice for their son, he’s yet another victim of someone else’s hatred. It’s just like the Yoda quote from Episode I, “Fear is a path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.”

    I don’t hate those who defend Zimmerman, I pity them. They most likely don’t understand what it’s like to be concerned for a child, particularly a young child, and that is unfortunate. We as a nation should be much better than that, that is what the President meant when he said that our nation needs to do soul searching… it was just a year ago when another young child died in Arizona because a nut went crazy with a gun.

    • 206 yardarm756
      April 1, 2012 at 7:52 pm

      Hide and watch nin. It’s gonna get worst. The athletics have just begun, jumping to conclusions, rushing to judgement, swimming in controversy to name a few.

    • April 1, 2012 at 8:09 pm

      I never believed any of that “post-racial” speculation when PBO was elected. But I sure never thought it would come to this. People have lost their damn minds. The media, GOP, the RWNJs, the NRA, the PUMAs – they were all pretty terrifying before the election, but they’ve eclipsed their vile bigotry a thousand-fold and they prove that over and over every single day. It’s completely insane.

  37. 208 vcprezofan2
    April 1, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    Articles with a Politics Canada title appearing on Huff Post seem to have a more rational approach to topics. Twice now I’ve followed a blind link on Twitter and ended up at an article like the following re latest immigration proposal.

    Immigrants who face the unlawful presence bar can ask the government for a waiver if they can prove their U.S. citizen spouse or parent will suffer extreme hardship — a very difficult standard to meet. Unfortunately, due to backlogs, the overseas waiver process takes months, sometimes even years. In the meantime immigrants remain stuck abroad, separated from their loved ones in the U.S. Over the years immigrants have been seriously injured, even murdered, while waiting in dangerous cities like Ciudad Juarez.

    Lost in Smith’s reflexive denunciation is that the rule change would do little more than allow an immigrant to file a waiver application in the U.S. before going abroad to apply for an immigrant visa. The rigors of the law have not been altered one bit: the applicant still must meet the exacting legal standard of proving his spouse or parent would suffer extreme hardship and, if the waiver is granted, the applicant still must leave the U.S. to apply for the immigrant visa abroad. Smith also fails to note that the administrative change will reduce backlogs at U.S. embassies, leading to more efficient government and smarter enforcement.

    If Lamar Smith were truly interested in making the immigration system work for American families he would wholeheartedly support the administration’s stateside waiver proposal.



  38. April 1, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    Some Major Fundraiser for the President has been accused of fraud.
    It looks like we will have to give back 200k.
    But, you know, the Republicans are so desperate…

    • 210 COS
      April 1, 2012 at 7:04 pm

      I am sure they would find a lot of crooked republican fundraisers also, if they really looked under the hood and kicked the tires a little more.

      • 211 globalcitizenlinda
        April 1, 2012 at 7:46 pm

        MSm is only looking for ways to tarnish PBO. You will NEVER see them scrutinizing the GOP donors

    • 212 globalcitizenlinda
      April 1, 2012 at 7:43 pm

      thought 200K was already given back to the bundler (s) who were brothers.

      current story is about another person (or couple) who raised 50K.

      I always wonder at these people – if you support a person for re-election, then please do not tarnish his/her name with your own personal issues

  39. April 1, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    Lester Holt just confirmed the unbelievable news that Sarah P will indeed be co-hosting the Today Show Tues. I saw earlier news on this, but I kept thinking it had to be some April Fools joke, or some bored peeps on twitter trying to spread the most outrageous thing they could think of at the moment. Is Today/NBC that mad at Katie Couric for agreeing to appear on GMA, that they think they are paying her back for that Palin interview with this invitation? It is senseless and irresponsible. Our news media is a big fat infantile joke!

  40. 216 collegekay
    April 1, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    Palin on the Today Show? Jeez what’s gonna be next? Rush Limbaugh?? I cannot take this seriously.

    • 217 anniebella
      April 1, 2012 at 7:41 pm

      Bristol or the dumb “A” mother. Either case, I think I’ll skip the Today crap, I mean show.

      • 218 anniebella
        April 1, 2012 at 7:55 pm

        Co-hosting. You know some people might think we are kidding when we say the media isn’t worth sh*t. Please excuse my language, but who the heck would have that quitter racists idiot from Alaska co-hosting their show. Who was the idiot who came up with that block buster? I think I will email the Today and ask them that very question.

    • 221 Cha
      April 1, 2012 at 8:09 pm

      limburger..that was Katie Couric’s first guest on her CBS News Anchor Show. How’d that work out for her?

  41. 222 Sue
    April 1, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    Touching, it brought tears to my eyes. Justice for all that get shot down in the streets everyday in the USA whether they are black, white, yellow, brown. Their families deserve to know the true of what happen. Tray Martin —- R.I.P

  42. 223 Dona
    April 1, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    Hi TODers! Thank you Chipsticks for this wonderful haven. I haven’t posted in a long time, but I read this blog every day. This Trayvon Martin shooting has really disturbed me for many reasons. As Tally wrote up thread, the beast ( racial intolerance) has been awakened and it is about time. But we Americans tend to have short memories.
    Remember the OJ shooting? Apart from Nicole Brown- Simpson, the other victim was a young man, Ron Goldman.At the time of his death, Ron’s
    knuckles were heavily bruised, as if he fought his attacker. I don’t remember anyone justifying his defense of his life as the reason he lost it , as Zimmerman’s brother is now asserting in this latest shooting.

    Another point to consider: Michael Vick was excoriated in the media and imprisoned for killing a dog ( I mean no disrespect to dog lovers and owners), Zimmerman was handcuffed by the Sandford police and LET GO. Trayvon’s body was toe-tagged as a “John Doe” for THREE days, even though they had his cell phone and knew who he was. Are they saying that the life of a black 17 yr old is worth less than the life of a dog?

    • 224 jacquelineoboomer
      April 1, 2012 at 8:57 pm

      I agree. It’s awful and heartless, and actually there are no words to describe it. Anyone listening to the voices of Zimmerman and even his brother and father can “hear” there’s something very strange about them, at the very least. I hope the spotlight stays on this case, through a conviction, and then I think we should know what’s wrong with that family. I know it’s wrong to judge by just looking at someone or hearing someone – then we’d be as bad as the shooter – but I think his brother has a similar problem, as though he has no soul. We should follow this national tragedy as long as we can, to – shocker – maybe learn something from it, for a change. Of course, like his parents, we’d all just rather have Trayvon back, growing up well and contributing to society. I don’t think this Zimmerman crowd has contributed much, that’s for sure.

    • 225 relellit
      April 1, 2012 at 8:59 pm


      Exactly, maybe his dad, a former judge, called the Sanford police and told them to let him go. If Zimmerman’s brother can go on CNN without his face covered so should his dad. His dad might as well have had a white sheet and pointed hat on.

      I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.

      Martin Luther King, Jr. quote

      ”I swear to the Lord
      I still can’t see
      Why Democracy means
      Everybody but me.”

      Langston Hughes poet (1902-1967)
      The Boss got it right about skin. Bravo for the boss

  43. 227 anniebella
    April 1, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    I wonder have FLOTUS, Malia, and Sasha arrived home yet?

    • 228 anniebella
      April 1, 2012 at 7:58 pm

      I imagine it was a wonder few days the Obama girls had together, top off by the Nick Awards last night.

  44. 229 vcprezofan2
    April 1, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    Question: If I started to follow someone on Twitter then find out they are a little more risque than I can handle does this mean that those who follow me are also automatically exposed to the stuff? Or are they only exposed if I retweet it?

    • April 1, 2012 at 8:34 pm

      Only if you re-tweet it. You can unfollow them or block them if you don’t want them in your timeline anymore.

      • 231 jacquelineoboomer
        April 1, 2012 at 9:05 pm

        Or you can send me their Twitter name, so I can follow them. (Just kidding! I’m sillier than “normal” today!)

        • April 1, 2012 at 9:10 pm

          Yeah, alright, jo’b. LOLz.

          • 233 jacquelineoboomer
            April 1, 2012 at 9:28 pm

            (I honestly don’t know where I get this stuff, sometimes.)

            • 234 vcprezofan2
              April 1, 2012 at 9:41 pm

              JO’B! 😯 😆

              Thanks for your response, guys! I blocked it when I saw it, but was blushing and wondering if my followers had been exposed to it through me. 😳 It’s supposed to be poetry but too explicit ‘pour moi’. Trouble is that this person has/had some relevant tweets that I have to now take a pass on. Oh well! Maybe when I grow up I’ll be better able to handle it. 😉

              • 235 jacquelineoboomer
                April 1, 2012 at 10:16 pm

                I know what you mean – I’ve followed then unfollowed then followed people, because I miss their relevant tweets, after they offered up some little faux pas. Some of the people on Twitter are so creative, they’re hard to resist.

        • 236 yardarm756
          April 1, 2012 at 10:30 pm

          You have just lost your PIO job. There are some gents outside your door waiting to escort you to the brig. 😆

    • 241 amk for obama
      April 1, 2012 at 9:42 pm

      Don’t worry, vc. I have got lotsa pr0n stars following me of late. I wonder what gave me away as a stud. 🙂

      I just got tired of reporting them and just gave up.

      • 242 vcprezofan2
        April 1, 2012 at 10:05 pm

        Oh no! Can’t handle those, Amk! I was the one following this person, and I was quite happy with the tweets until s/he ‘burst’ into poetry. Just a tad too explicit for my taste. I like to use my own imagination without anyone painting graphically on my eyelids.

  45. 243 hopefruit2
    April 1, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    Oh dear…

  46. 256 Tally
    April 1, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    ok – I’m signing off for a few hours or so – gotta make FUD, and get ready for GAME OF THRONES!!!

    The Cold Winds Are Rising.

    😀 😀 😀

  47. April 1, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    Vice President Joe Biden on Sunday became the latest to blast Republican presidential frontrunner Mitt Romney for his view of Russia, saying the former Massachusetts governor is unknowledgeable about foreign policy.

    During an appearance on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” Biden criticized Romney’s statement last week that Russia “is without question our number one geopolitical foe.”

    “He just seems to be uninformed or stuck in a Cold War mentality,” Biden said. “I think what the exchange did [is] it exposes how little Governor Romney knows about foreign policy.”

    Biden said Russia is “united with us on Iran,” and credited Russian leaders for saying last week that they would consider increasing oil supplies to the European Union to compensate for embargoes on Iranian oil.


  48. 259 hopefruit2
    April 1, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    Sister Maya talks about her and PBO’s mom!

  49. 260 desertflower
    April 1, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    Ok. Need to vent. Let me share the “letter” I received from Jon Kyl in response to an email I sent to him regarding the Blunt Amendment.

    Dear Mrs ****

    I received your note.

    The Blunt Amendment (which I supported) would have simply restored the law to what it was before Obamacare was passed, ensuring that the federal government does not force religious institutions to violate tenets of their faith.

    Jon Kyl
    United States Senator.

    Can I tell you how enraged I am right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is a US senator. A condescending US senator that thinks his constituents are morons. Seriously? For starters…OBAMACARE from a US Senator? I need to calm down.

    • 261 hopefruit2
      April 1, 2012 at 9:18 pm

      Make him stew in his own bile. I would send him a nice gentle reply with emphasis on the word “ObamaCares” I would also tell him that his unprofessional email simply reinforces your decision to vote for President Obama and Democrats in the fall.

    • April 1, 2012 at 9:26 pm

      Do you think for a minute that he actually wrote that? A member of his staff wrote that.

      • 263 desertflower
        April 1, 2012 at 9:55 pm

        A member of his staff wrote this. I know that. With the initials “ag” signed with the rubber stamp. The ONLY thing that man likes is war, as he even voted AGAINST the Start Treaty. I can’t tell you all how much I detest this man. So glad that he’s retiring…on OUR dime.

    • 264 Tally
      April 1, 2012 at 10:48 pm

      You need to write him back and say,

      “No sir. You would make a law that allows religious organizations to force their faith on me, and allow religious institutions to violate tenets of MY faith, and MY CIVIL RIGHTS guaranteed to me by the Constituation and BIll or Rights. So kindly go FUCK OFFYOU SELF-RIGHTOUS DOUCHEBAG.”

    • 273 yardarm756
      April 1, 2012 at 11:27 pm

      If he is a product of the state educational system, they failed.

  50. April 1, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Sorting out trends in the U.S. labor market is tricky business these days.

    There is plenty of evidence to support the view that unemployment is stalled at 8.3 percent for much of the year, and a case to argue that job growth is poised for takeoff.

    Three interlocking factors are seen in play – the pace of productivity gains, size of the labor force and the outlook for GDP growth. Dial any one factor up and it can change the jobs outlook significantly.

    The consensus for March employment data out on Friday is that 201,000 new jobs were added outside the farm sector, a downshift from the 245,000 average monthly pace the United States has enjoyed since December. This would hold the jobless rate around its current rate of 8.3 percent, unless a surge of people who had been discouraged flood back into the labor market again and again start looking for work.

    The optimistic school of economists forecast that job gains could be as high as 275,000 in March and reach 300,000 new jobs a month by later this year.


  51. 275 4morefor44
    April 1, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    just have to share this. the fail machine that is mitt robot and his campaign just keeps bringing the hits! they can’t even do a april fool’s joke without understanding how bad it makes them look. shows how clueless they are.

    considering this isn’t too far removed from reality sometimes (detroit’s ford field anyone?), and how easily it would be to edit this into a joke video, this ideas was amazingly dumb. i see we can leave comments under it at youtube. what a bunch of buffoons mittens and co. are!!

  52. 278 vcprezofan2
    April 1, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    Mention of the Alaska Barbie made me think of Alaska so I went visiting and found this oil video. It links quite nicely to PBO’s oil subsidy focus and is somewhat funny.

  53. April 1, 2012 at 9:57 pm

    I just received an amazing (to me) email. It’s from a website called Teachers Paying Teachers (TpT). It was begun 6 years ago and is a conduit for teachers to sell class lessons and materials to other teachers directly without paying a middleman. So a teacher creates an MLKing Day set of activities and sells them on the site for a few dollars. I have found a lot of good stuff there in the few weeks since I found it. Anyway, the amazing part: Today Michelle Obama called the founder and said all kinds of complimentary things about how much she likes it, then passed the phone to the President!! From the email:

    “To congratulate us and you, we actually got a call yesterday from Michelle Obama who happens to be a big fan of TpT. Who knew?! She told me that teachers were the foundation of a civil democratic society and that TpT was an empowering force that helped to lift up teachers and give them the recognition and compensation they deserved. I just couldn’t believe it!

    I thought it couldn’t get any better, but then she handed the phone to Barack! I got a little tongue tied, but he was so cool and talked about how he loved how TpT ignited the entrepreneurial spirit and that providing teachers with a platform to tap into their entrepreneurial sides was what this country is all about. He ended by saying that he was going to invite Deanna Jump to the next State of the Union address and that she’ll be sitting next to Michelle and the girls. He told me that they are planning a major effort to raise the profile of our nation’s best teachers to help make teaching a more attractive career path than say investment banking, and inviting Deanna (along with the national Teacher of the Year) is part of that effort. ”

    Isn’t it amazing the way the Obamas seem to know about EVERYTHING that is going on in this country??? I would never have guess they would know or even hear of a website like this one. What remarkable people – which I already knew, but then I guess I have to learn it all over again! I’m as excited as if he’d called me personally. I can’t say often enough how blessed we are to have them both. I also love his remarks about teachers 😉

    • 281 anniebella
      April 1, 2012 at 10:06 pm

      Wow! That is just great. Our First Couple is just great. We need them for Four More Years, the country need them for four more years. Obama/Biden 2012

    • 282 globalcitizenlinda
      April 1, 2012 at 10:09 pm

      very, very nice! I loved the report

    • 283 politicaljunkessa
      April 1, 2012 at 10:10 pm

      Phenomenal. Thanks for sharing that!

    • 284 desertflower
      April 1, 2012 at 10:22 pm

      That’s so wonderful! As an educator, I will pass this along to my fellow teachers 🙂 Thanks so much for this!

    • 285 isonprize
      April 1, 2012 at 10:47 pm

      I’m just as happy for you Maryl1 and thanks for the site. know some teachers that I can pass it on to!! Isn’t PBO’s sister Maya a teacher? I’m sure she keeps him up-to-date on issues. What a wonderful idea and an even better story!!

  54. 286 politicaljunkessa
    April 1, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    Watching Grant Hill on OWN’s Master Class. Love him!

    • April 1, 2012 at 10:28 pm

      10:25……just read this about Grant Hill. Thanks…….just switched. He is an amazing guy. We lived in Fairfax when he was in high school in Fairfax County so I feel like I sort of watched him grow up. His parents are amazing people……he’s talking now about RESPECT. Yeah, lots of people could learn from him, huh?

  55. 289 amk for obama
    April 1, 2012 at 10:38 pm


    Limbaugh and Birthers

    On our Georgia, Ohio, and Tennessee Republican polls in addition to looking at the Presidential race we also polled on some of the issues that have been in the news over the last week: Rush Limbaugh and the reemergence of birtherism.

    Our numbers suggest that Rush Limbaugh has seen significant erosion in his popularity with Republican voters over the last week. The last time we polled on him nationally he was at 80/12 with GOPers. But now we find him below 50% in all three of these states: he’s at 45/28 in Ohio, 46/29 in Tennessee, and 44/30 in Georgia.

    Republican women in particular have become very skeptical about Limbaugh in the states holding tomorrow’s 2 most competitive contests. He’s at only 39/28 with them in Ohio and 36/30 in Tennessee

  56. 290 isonprize
    April 1, 2012 at 10:44 pm

    BRUUUUUUUUCCCCEEEEE!!! I love Bruce Springsteen. And love him even more for this. It is still hard to believe that over a month has passed and the alleged killer of Trayvon Martin has STILL not been arrested. I just don’t understand how this can happen in America.

    Michael Vick does time for killing a dog. Martha Stewart does time for lying, thus obstructing justice. This guy shoots and kills an unarmed teenager, who is walking down the street minding his own business. This guy is still free to live his life. Wow, just wow…

  57. April 1, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    Monday Apr. 2, 2012
    10:00 AM
    Obama and Biden receive the presidential daily briefing.
    11:15 AM
    Obama hosts Prime Minister Stephen Harper of Canada and President Felipe Calderon of Mexico for the North American Leaders’ Summit.
    12:00 PM
    Obama attends a working lunch with Harper and Calderon.
    1:15 PM
    Obama holds a joint press conference with Harper and Calderon.
    3:00 PM
    Obama and Biden meet with Clinton.
    4:00 PM
    Obama meets with senior advisors.
    6:30 PM
    Biden hosts a reception at the Naval Observatory in honor of firefighters and law enforcement officials.

  58. 292 donna dem 4 obama
    April 1, 2012 at 11:05 pm


    I just checked my FB birthday list and today is our very own Sonjia Duncan’s Birthday

    Happy Birthday SD (You should have told us!)

    • April 1, 2012 at 11:54 pm

      My family and friends have kept me busy since 7:30 this morning. Everyone remembers your birthday when it’s April 1, April Fools Day. Thank you Homegirl Donna, you know how much I love you and what you do for our President.

  59. 299 isonprize
    April 1, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    I had to clear my conscience after watching the Barbie doll groom her sugar daddy, so I clicked on a few of the videos that show up at the end. This one is particularly cool!!

    Barack Obama on Check, Please!

  60. 301 desertflower
    April 1, 2012 at 11:08 pm

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Sonja!! For goodness sakes:) Chips needs to put out the spread! Fireworks, President Obama presenting the cake….

  61. 308 desertflower
    April 1, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    And lookie here! http://juanitajean.com/2012/04/01/crooks-of-a-feather-flock-together/

    The familiar bearded TV pitchman for TaxMasters – Patrick Cox – was convicted today of defrauding customers and ordered to pay $195 million.

    An Austin jury found him guilty of deceptive trade practices.

    Now this would be just another example of greed bringing down another Republican fat cat who made their money off society’s most vulnerable people during stressful times in their lives, except for a couple of things.

    First, in typical Republican fashion, TaxMasters filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection one day before the jury trial was set to begin.

    And second –

    Cox is a major contributor to Gov. Rick Perry , donating $100,000 to the Republican governor’s re-election campaign in 2010.

  62. 311 desertflower
    April 1, 2012 at 11:23 pm

    My girlfriend is a member of this group. Just thought I would share. Women helping women.


  63. 312 yardarm756
    April 1, 2012 at 11:39 pm

  64. 313 Pamela
    April 2, 2012 at 12:04 am

    Goodnight all! Sweet dreams… It’s been long day. 🙂

  65. April 2, 2012 at 12:12 am

    In England- 65% of voters think Cameron is doing poorly and Is out of touch. (YouGov).

    • 316 99ts
      April 2, 2012 at 1:39 am

      From Ozfan (before wordpress changed things)

      Not at all surprising – those who buy right wing rhetoric usually get buyers’ remorse. The UK is not recovering due to the draconian anti spending measures. Then again, Tony Blair damaged the labor movement in the UK by agreeing with everything GWB proposed in the wake of 9/11.

  66. 318 jacquelineoboomer
    April 2, 2012 at 12:21 am

    Goodnight, TODville!

  67. 322 amk for obama
    April 2, 2012 at 1:18 am

  68. 324 Dudette
    April 2, 2012 at 2:34 am

    Hi Everyone! I’m so grateful for this site, all the wonderful people who come here share their activist passion, information, encouragement and humor. This really is an oasis for me and I know for some many others. Thank you so much Chips!

    The Bruce Springsteen video gave me chills. I’ve played it over and over tonight. He’s always been able to make music that rips your heart out, makes you think, and moves you to action. If there were ever such a thing as “Rocker Laureate” – Bruce should be the first.

    Also I’m over the moon with excitement at how well collegkay’s fundraising has gone. It’s been so great to be able to play a small part in it and watching the total grow. I’m really looking forward to living vicariously through her report on the phone call from the President that should be coming soon. 🙂 Many Congratulations to collegekay and the rest of the TOD Family! You guys are amazing!

    • 325 vcprezofan2
      April 2, 2012 at 2:49 am

      Hi Dudette, Night Dudette! 😆 I’m off to bed as, who knows, I might have to go to work later on. They haven’t called me much lately, so…. …

  69. April 2, 2012 at 2:58 am

    FYI: If you plan on visiting PoliticusUSA, it appears parts of the site has been compromised. I tried viewing some articles on there and it just comes up with symbols and letters. I love that site and I hate how there are people targeting it! Just when it was back up and running, the hacking of the site has started up again!

  70. 327 globalcitizenlinda
    April 2, 2012 at 6:35 am

    Latest effort from media is to make ann romney a “star”.

    they claim she is “the romney democrats fear most”.

    they are also trying to set her up against Mrs Michelle Obama – as though politics and the 2012 election is American Idol.

    what a bunch of crap!

    • 328 utaustinliberal
      April 2, 2012 at 6:43 am

      I saw that this morning. I just bust out with a loud guffaw. Have they seen her on the stump? I’ve seen her on C-SPAN and she’s just blah. So dry and boring. She can’t articulate what Romney’s platform is, then when she begins talking about the economy, it’s so hard to contain my laughter because one can clearly see she doesn’t believe what she’s saying. The economy is growing and that leaves the Romney camp in a quandary so they decide to trot out Ann Romney as a “secret weapon.”

    • 329 amk for obama
      April 2, 2012 at 6:44 am

      LOL. That’s gopolitico. The best part – their “Obama campaign officials and strategists view Ann Romney as a wild card in the fall campaign — a skilled and articulate advocate whose full power has yet to be unleashed”.

      yeah right, plouffe is having sleepless nights thinking about ms mehmney.

      what a buncha buffoons.

  71. 332 amk for obama
    April 2, 2012 at 7:17 am

  72. April 2, 2012 at 7:37 am

    ISLAMABAD (Reuters) – A Pakistani court charged former al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden’s three widows and two daughters with illegally staying in the country and sentenced them to 45 days in jail, their lawyers said on Monday.

    In practice, that means 14 days in prison because they have been in detention since March 3. Bin Laden’s family members will eventually be deported to their home countries, the lawyers said.

    “They (bin Laden’s relatives) were sentenced to 45 days imprisonment and fined 10,000 rupees ($110) each. The money was paid on the spot,” Aamir Khalil, one of the lawyers, said.

    “The Secretary of the Interior has been instructed to make arrangements for their deportation after that.”


  73. 338 amk for obama
    April 2, 2012 at 8:00 am

  74. April 2, 2012 at 8:13 am

    US considering arming Syrian Rebels, so, now Republicans are against it.

  75. April 2, 2012 at 8:29 am

    Former President Bill Clinton, who used to teach constitutional law, has a list of cases he seems surprised the Obama administration didn’t cite in its arguments defending the health care law before the U.S. Supreme Court last week.
    “It seemed to me that the conservative justices were just accepting as a matter of course that there was a serious constitutional question here,” the former president said, “and that they didn’t make the plaintiffs, the people that want to strike the law down, prove their case.”
    “Nobody asked, for example, do they want to overturn a case called Wickard v. Filburn in 1942,” Clinton said. “Where in the beginning of World War II, where we were still coming out of the Depression, a farmer was told and the Supreme Court upheld the ability of the federal government to limit his ability to grow food on his own farm for personal consumption. Because they said it affected the aggregate amount of food consumed in interstate commerce and the price of food.”


  76. 342 LDS
    April 2, 2012 at 8:42 am

    Good morning, Chips and family. I was so filled with emotions while watching the video last night. I played it over and over until I finally had to drink a cup of tea and go to sleep. So many emotions surfaced that sleep was the only remedy. I was so angry and disgusted that human life as precious as it is can be taken away because of the color of your skin. How sad. But I am glad that Bruce composed that song because we should never get comfortable with racism and injustice praying that it will go away and push it in the back of our minds until we feel it is convenient to speak out on it. We should push back on friends, family and foe whenever a joke or comment is made , that’s a start. We have to be bold and nip it in the bud even in casual conservations .Unless it has happend to you, you will never know how it feels.

    As a mother of two grown AA men, I still worry for their safety. They will someday have to have the same talk with their boys as my husband and I had with them. I remember the youngest asking us at 13, “What about my rights?” I will never forget the hurt on his face as long as I live. My husband simply walked away and the only answer I could give him was a hug. It hurt even more to watch Trayvon’s brother’s interview. So young to have to experience the loss of your brother and to hear his voice crying for help. Even though he was not sure, that hurts even more knowing you could not be their to help.

    This week I welcome change……starting with me.

  77. 343 lovingandlaughing
    April 2, 2012 at 9:48 am

    Thank you Chips and Electablog for posting this video. And thank you so much Bruce.

  78. 344 pkayden
    April 2, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    Thank you for this video. Springsteen sings it like he means it. Very moving.

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