rooting for collegekay

Our very, very good pal Collegekay is joining in on the fundraising challenge – although if she wins it I suspect we’ll need to order quite a large consignment of smelling salts:

If you can help Collegekay’s efforts you can donate here

Best of luck Collegekay 😉

189 Responses to “rooting for collegekay”

  1. 2 collegekay
    March 27, 2012 at 11:38 am

    Thank you so much Chips. words cannot explain my appreciation.

    Thank you TOD family. Even if I don’t win… this is still all for pbo ❤ 🙂

    • March 27, 2012 at 11:45 am

      I hope you win. I think it would be great for someone here to win a meeting with PBO and FLOTUS. Unfortunately, even if I won, I would not be able to go, so I will do my best to help somebody else do so.

    • 4 Dudette
      March 27, 2012 at 11:58 am

      Threw a few pennies in the bucket for you, ck.
      Thank you for everything you do to help support our President.
      I’m so proud of you!! 🙂

    • 5 utaustinliberal
      March 27, 2012 at 7:04 pm

      Good Luck!

  2. 6 GGail
    March 27, 2012 at 11:45 am

    Good west coast morning Chipsticks!

    Way to go collegekay. I’ll do what I can to help you along 🙂

    Congrats Dudette for landing First!

    Happy 60th Birthday proudofobama!!!!!

  3. 8 Jessica
    March 27, 2012 at 11:47 am

    This is random but I hope their is a movement about the death of our young black and Hispanic men. The incarceration and murder rates are outrageous.

    March 27, 2012 at 11:48 am


  5. March 27, 2012 at 11:48 am

  6. March 27, 2012 at 11:48 am

    Just got this email, so you can count me in 🙂

    We’re approaching the biggest fundraising deadline of this campaign so far.

    Those watching what we do over the next four days will take it as a real sign of what we’ll be capable of when we meet an opponent in the general election.

    Every time we’ve faced a challenge in this campaign, you have come through.

    It’s the critical advantage we have over our opponents. We’re not taking money from Washington lobbyists, PACs, or special interests. I’m counting on you — and more than 1.5 million grassroots donors — to see us through November.

    The first big test of 2012 is to finish this week strong.

    Please donate $68 or more today, before the crucial deadline:

  7. 17 whatisworking
    March 27, 2012 at 11:50 am

    Let’s use ProudofObama’s birthday as an opportunity to help the President.

    We can donate as an online way of celebrating the TOD family B-Days.

    Visit College Kay’s page, Donna’s page, or Chips donate button on the right side of the screen.

  8. 24 sonjiaduncan
    March 27, 2012 at 11:52 am

    I hope my little bit helps you to win.

  9. 25 proudofobama
    March 27, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    Hey guys, posted on the last thread that I had to run out to a doctor’s appointment, so I’m late saying thank you so much for the birthday wishes. I’m still dancing. Can’t think of another group I’d want to celebrate with than my TOD family. You guys are wonderful.

  10. 26 maymirabella
    March 27, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    And this great internet ad from 2008 is perfect to get us moving and inspired. It also shows how much more interesting
    Politics would be on TV if was done in musicals.

    • 27 Dudette
      March 27, 2012 at 12:11 pm

      Somebody’s a big Les Miserables fan (as am I)!

      McCain and Palin as the Thénardiers! Brilliant! LOL!!

  11. 28 maymirabella
    March 27, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    CollegeKay: Bravo for all you do !!!

  12. 29 donna dem 4 obama
    March 27, 2012 at 12:07 pm

    Happy Birthday Proudofobama. May you be blessed with many many more.

    Yippee for Collegekay! She is half way to her goal but I’m sure we can push her wayyyyy past that initial goal. You go girl!!!!

    Then, when you hear on your phone those magical words….”Hold For The President”, you can use that truckload of smelling salts that Chips has in route for you to stay conscience until you hear “Hi CollegeKay this is Barack” and then you will faint anyway!!! 😯

    • 30 jacquelineoboomer
      March 27, 2012 at 12:36 pm

      I’m sure you’ve relived “the moment,” scads of times, eh, Donna? Love thinking about that gift you got, myself! 🙂

  13. 31 Liberal Librarian
    March 27, 2012 at 12:07 pm

    Too early to pop champagne, but we MAY have Justice Roberts on our side. From TPM:

    In a little-noticed exchange Monday, conservative Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts may have tipped his hand that he’s entertaining the possibility that the health care law’s individual mandate can be upheld on a constitutional basis that’s different from the one supporters and opponents have made central to their arguments.

    For over a year now, observers and experts have assumed that the court’s final decision will hinge on the extent of Congress’ power to regulate interstate commerce. But the justices could also upend that conventional wisdom, and in a worrying sign for the plaintiffs on Monday, Roberts unexpectedly highlighted one way they could do that.

    In an exchange with a plaintiffs attorney, Roberts suggested he’s skeptical that the mandate and its penalties can be treated separately and may have opened the door to finding that Congress’ power to impose the mandate springs from its broad taxing power.

    “The idea that the mandate is something separate from whether you want to call it a penalty or tax just doesn’t seem to make much sense,” Roberts said, over strong objections from attorney Gregory Katsas. “It’s a command. A mandate is a command. If there is nothing behind the command, it’s sort of, well what happens if you don’t file the mandate? And the answer is nothing. It seems very artificial to separate the punishment from the crime. … Why would you have a requirement that is completely toothless? You know, buy insurance or else. Or else what? Or else nothing.”

    Full piece here: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/03/did-john-roberts-throw-a-wrench-in-major-argument-against-obamacare.php?ref=fpb

    • 32 Dudette
      March 27, 2012 at 12:25 pm

      That was before today’s hearing…

      • 33 Liberal Librarian
        March 27, 2012 at 12:25 pm

        I haven’t been following yet. How was today’s hearing?

        • 34 Dudette
          March 27, 2012 at 12:33 pm

          I haven’t been following either, but according to dotster downthread, it’s not looking so good today.

      • 35 57andfemale
        March 27, 2012 at 1:11 pm

        TPM is the only one finding hope today. Almost all of the legal eagles following this thing today are saying the the conservative justices are skewering the mandate. Toobin flat out says it looks like the law is going to be struck down.

        Kennedy seems to not care about the consequences of his actions and usually slides right.

        I’m not happy with what i’ve been reading concerning today’s proceedings.

    • March 27, 2012 at 12:42 pm

      Here’s why I think the Supremes won’t open this can of highly political whoop-ass: some of the same SOS’es and Governors bringing the case are busily enacting mandates of their own. For example how can VA’s SOS Ken Cuchinelli (sp) bring a case against the unconstitutionality of the healthcare mandate while VA is busy creating their own mandate that women MUST PAY for a medically unnecessary sonogram? Here, in FL, it’s my understanding that the unemployed are MANDATED that they pay for their own drug tests?

      Let’s face it, this whole mandate b.s. is purely political and the conservative justices would find it difficult to go against the tenet of personal responsibility which is central to their ideology.

      • 37 57andfemale
        March 27, 2012 at 1:15 pm

        Dear pamela, I’m afraid you’re wrong. A state’s right is different from a federal right. That’s what the entire thing hinges on.

        These conservative ‘youngsters’ on the SC cut their teeth as lawyers looking for ways to undo the New Deal, and if the crazy RW logic is upheld, you will see a rash of lawsuits using this precedent against damn near everything the federal government does in modern times. They will keep their powder dry until after the election but we have every reason to be very concerned.

        When the law was crafted in the early days of the PBO presidency, he had a belief that reason and precedent would be upheld by this SC. I am losing faith that this will be true.

        • March 27, 2012 at 1:28 pm

          Well, my Dear, I’ve been wrong before but we all know how “flexible” (heh) the repubs are when it comes to “states rights”. The states are used as stepping stones to either promote their agenda or thwarting ours with the end goal to making it federal. The “commerce clause” has been used to uphold the idea of a cohesive UNITED States of America, as opposed to a loose confederation of states at odds with one another.

          As I originally stated, overturning the mandate opens a whole can of whoop-ass hurt.

          • 39 57andfemale
            March 27, 2012 at 2:59 pm

            I’m afraid the only constant Republicans have is that they’re in favor of anything that hurts PBO.

            It wasn’t all that long ago that Democrats were the bleeding heart libruls who wanted to give everything away for free to all the loafers and accept no personal responsibility. The only answer was the free market and a mandate, when it came to health care reform.

            You would think the idiots out there protesting would have a memory that goes back more than a day and half. No such luck, now personal responsibility is anathema to ‘freedom’. Everything turned on its head.


  14. 40 cat48
    March 27, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    Good Morning, Welcome back, Chips. The president’s friend, Dmitriv, had some advice for Mittens heh

    (Reuters) – Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said on Tuesday a comment by U.S. Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, branding Russia the “number one geopolitical foe”, smacked of Hollywood.

    “Regarding ideological clichés, every time this or that side uses phrases like ‘enemy number one’, this always alarms me, this smells of Hollywood and certain times (of the past),” Medvedev said at the end of a nuclear security summit in the South Korean capital.

    “I would recommend all U.S. presidential candidates … to do two things. First, when phrasing their position one needs to use one’s head, one’s good reason, which would not do harm to a presidential candidate.

    “Also, (one needs to) look at his watch: we are in 2012 and not the mid-1970s.”

    Mittens should be extremely embarrassed by this gaffe, but he won’t be. He never admits he’s made a mistake. Also, Boehner, piled on by saying that Mitt was wrong to criticize the president while he was overseas at a conference. He gets a point for that!

  15. 44 lovingandlaughing
    March 27, 2012 at 12:10 pm

    saw this on twitter

    Disappointed that the Presidential Pinterest — pinterest.com/barackobama/ — went up w/o this: bit.ly/wTlptm— Greg Greene (@ggreeneva) March 27, 2012

    check out the link.

  16. 47 Ladyhawke
    March 27, 2012 at 12:14 pm


    The Contrived Theory of the Obamacare Lawsuit

    By Jonathan Chait


    The lawsuits to nullify the Affordable Care Act, say conservatives, are about far more than mere health care. They represent a last chance to establish a Constitutional basis for freedom itself. Regulating inactivity “would expand the federal government’s authority over individual Americans to an unprecedented degree,” wrote a pair of Republican lawyers in a Wall Street Journal op-ed that helped launch the legal challenge. A National Review editorial declares, “a federal mandate would expand federal powers still further, and in a way that does not admit of any principled limit.” Right-wing members of Congress, intellectuals, and even legal opinions have buzzed with fearful predictions of a future in which the federal government forces Americans to eat broccoli or buy G.M. cars.

    It has been remarkable to watch an entirely new conceptualization of freedom arise from thin air so quickly.



  17. March 27, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    I’m not liking the sound of the report by Pete Williams on msnbc just now on the proceedings at the SC. He said Scalia’s questions re. govt’s case were openly hostile, when he had been supportive of fed’s power in past. Not really surprising, but the more worrisome comment was that Kennedy, the supposed “swing vote” was also hostile. Williams said if he had to predict right now, he would predict the health care law was in trouble.

    • 49 hopefruit2
      March 27, 2012 at 12:22 pm

      Dotster, I would really urge you to not heed stuff that comes from the MSM regarding the ACA. It is expected that they would say things like that – it gets people riled up and translates into ratings. It also helps to advance GOP propaganda and depress Democrats.

      Meanwhile, I say good for Pete williams and msnbc. I’m sure he’s predicted many negative things for President Obama based on bits and pieces of scattered information. An example would be that PBO would not get elected President in 2008, or that HCR would not even have passed. How many of those “predictions” came to pass? ZERO.

      • 50 MsKitty (@michelec64)
        March 27, 2012 at 12:43 pm

        The President just came off of a very successful overseas trip, so time for another “Obama is DOOMED” story. If you look back over the last 4 years it’s a very predictable pattern with the MSM. Because it can never be said enough, don’t fall for the okey-doke.

      • 51 57andfemale
        March 27, 2012 at 1:18 pm

        This is what we’re hearing from legal scholars, not just reporters. We can stay hopeful but we have to be aware of what actually happened today. If Kennedy was hostile then we’re in serious trouble.

        • 52 hopefruit2
          March 27, 2012 at 1:26 pm

          Some of these “legal scholars” also have their own political agenda. I’ve seen this movie many, many times before.

          • 53 57andfemale
            March 27, 2012 at 3:03 pm

            I’m following this pretty closely and I’m making it a point to not follow the pack and keep an open mind. I’m no lawyer but I’ve been a paralegal and I understand some of this. Unfortunately with these Republicans and this SC, law and the reputation of the courts has nothing to do with it. It is all political. The sinking pit in my stomach (and you, hopefruit, are going to HATE this) is that because the administration did not do a good enough job at selling and explaining this bill, there won’t be as big an outcry as there would have been. There are way too many Americans who still don’t understand the advantages of the bill and who really don’t understand how the mandate is important to its success. It’s a complete head scratcher to me.

    • March 27, 2012 at 12:22 pm

      Williams now joined by another sup. ct. expert and both agree that ct. is “on the edge of saying law is unconstitutional”. They both only see 4 votes in support, no 5th vote. It sounds like it got so ridiculous that Scalia was asking if the govt. could require people to eat broccoli, and other such nonsense.

    • 55 anniebella
      March 27, 2012 at 12:23 pm

      dotster3, don’t worry yourself. If I was you I would not listen to these people like Pete Williams . We don’t know what will happen, all we can do is pray the right thing is done.

    • 56 Dudette
      March 27, 2012 at 12:23 pm

      Sigh! All we can do now is see how it plays out and pray the justices care more about the people of this country than their own ideologies.

    • 57 Linda
      March 27, 2012 at 12:24 pm

      I thought Pete Williams covered the Pentagon……

      Don’t forget he is a close friend of Liz Cheney. He cannot be trusted to be unbiased….

      • 58 jacquelineoboomer
        March 27, 2012 at 12:30 pm

        I knew somebody in the ’90s who knew him, and said he was a total chauvinist, when he was spokesman at the Pentagon. Saw the women professionals around him practically as people who’d “get him coffee.” I always think of that, when I see him. Turd. Yuck.

      • 59 57andfemale
        March 27, 2012 at 1:20 pm

        Please guys, I know we want to believe the best and until there’s a decision there’s always hope. But damn near universally from experts today, this does not look good.

    • March 27, 2012 at 12:26 pm

      Stop watching the reports on it. The MSM is doing its best to create as much drama as they can around this case. Stop watching this show that they are putting on.

    • 61 edp4bho
      March 27, 2012 at 12:45 pm

      I was listening to NPR and an observer stated how they (Scalia and Kennedy) were grilling the Solicitor General (I think) on whether this mandate wouldn’t be overstating government control (my words), and Roberts went on with the “broccolis” metaphor. The observer said she did not see a sign that either of the conservatives would move for the law. The interviewer finished with it doesn’t look good for the ACA at this point. This is why I must ask any of us who are “prayers” and those who choose to send up positive thoughts and hopes, do this for PBO. Put your own inclinations aside for one day, atleast, and consider how a loss would embolden those who oppose PBO to the depths of hell, would have the chance to dance on our heads——if the law goes down. Nothing more we can do. Just my positive 2 cents.

      • 62 Debz
        March 27, 2012 at 1:17 pm

        Please stop with the doom and gloom. yesterday Roberts was “tipping his hand” for ACA. Today it’s doooooooomed! Tomorrow, Thomas will sneeze and that will have some profound meaning. They will make a decision in MaY or June.

        • 63 57andfemale
          March 27, 2012 at 1:21 pm

          Only tpm had that take on Roberts. I’ve been following this pretty closely and I didn’t see anyone else with that impression.

        • 64 edp4bho
          March 27, 2012 at 1:34 pm

          I understand they have to go through the calisthenics of hearings and such, and I don’t exactly admit doom. My suggestion really is that at this point, there is nothing any of us supporters can do but think and pray up the positive. Thus my “positive 2 cents”.

        • March 27, 2012 at 1:41 pm

          I agree, Debz. The MSM are in the business of creating drama and their own narrative. Robert’s questions were nothing but playing the “Devil’s Advocate” so that the Solicitor General must support his claims. Nothing new here.

        • 68 nospin
          March 27, 2012 at 2:05 pm

          I hear you Debz

    • 69 prettyfoot58
      March 27, 2012 at 4:41 pm


  18. 70 hopefruit2
    March 27, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    Hey there collegekay, Just sent you a lil’ bit to help your reach your goal. Congratulations and good luck!

  19. 72 Liberal Librarian
    March 27, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    Welp, ignore my rosiness from a few minutes ago. Just read the report from TPM. Heaven forbid we have a national health care system like every single other advanced economy.

    • March 27, 2012 at 12:35 pm

      Yes, it looks like it is the consensus of all reporters and legal experts that were in attendance today that the law is in “grave trouble”.
      This is a revolting development——sounds like politics is definitely in play.

      • 74 Liberal Librarian
        March 27, 2012 at 12:37 pm

        I could let out a rant right now, but it would be garbled gibberish. I’ll wait to calm down and maybe write something for TPV.

      • 75 vcprezofan2
        March 27, 2012 at 1:08 pm

        I’m sharing Smartypants viewpoint from yesterday re the ACA, the media and the ‘final’ outcome. It’s worth a (re)read IMO. It can be easily accessed from the link to the right but I copied the link here anyway.

        “I suspect that the political news this week will be consumed by the debate at the Supreme Court about health care reform. Its probably a good thing that we get it all out now – but frankly, I’m not looking forward to the spin that is sure to ensue. The reality is that the real news won’t happen for months…the actual ruling from SCOTUS. And in the meantime, the pundits will have a heyday predicting the outcome and spinning those meaningless predictions ad infinitum.

        So I’ve hesitated to read much in the lead-up because it will all be a test of mental gymnastics for awhile now and I simply am not up for the hysteria.”


        • 77 57andfemale
          March 27, 2012 at 3:09 pm

          I love smartypants but I simply cannot follow this logic: ignore what’s happening until the decision happens? I understand ignoring the hyper-ventillating big-mouth press, but actual reports about the proceedings are important for me to make a personal assessment.

          • 78 vcprezofan2
            March 27, 2012 at 3:39 pm

            57F, I’m not sure if you read the entire post, but I not only found it quite informative in a ‘simplified’ way, I didn’t really conclude that she was advocating that we ignore what is happening vis a vis the actual debates. I concluded that SP planned to ignore the pseudo predictions and the hysteria they generate, and I agree with her. It never fails that in a large community such as ours there will be those who enjoy roller coaster rides as well as those who prefer to just go slowly around the train tracks, and of course those who fall in between. . I’m a train track type, so I shared this now because I felt that the ‘hysteria’ was starting to build here and in a way it seemed pointless, as nothing will be definitive until much later. I was saying to other ‘train track’ types a)not to get caught in the hype and get their blood pressure up, I guess, and b) we are not alone. Just my take. Like you, I do believe that ‘ACTUAL REPORTS about the proceedings are important’, personal interpretations, not so much.

  20. 79 Linda
    March 27, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    Toobin: ‘This Law Looks Like It’s Going To Be Struck Down’

    CNN Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin, following Supreme Court arguments on President Obama’s health care law, said on CNN that based on what he heard inside the Court, things didn’t look good for proponents of the law.

    “This was a train wreck for the Obama administration,” he said. “This law looks like it’s going to be struck down. I’m telling you, all of the predictions including mine that the justices would not have a problem with this law were wrong… if I had to bet today I would bet that this court is going to strike down the individual mandate.”

    Toobin added that he felt that U.S. Solicitor General David Verrilli simply wasn’t prepared for the conservative justices.

    “I don’t know why he had a bad day,” he said. “He is a good lawyer, he was a perfectly fine lawyer in the really sort of tangential argument yesterday. He was not ready for the answers for the conservative justices.”

    Toobin also said he thought Justice Kennedy, the perennial swing vote, was a “lost cause” for supporters of the health care reform law.


    Oh Dear.

    • March 27, 2012 at 1:15 pm

      See what I mean? Toobin fanning the flames based one day of some tough question. He’s trying to give the impression that Verrilli’s response to everything was the dog ate my homework. This thing just started yesterday. We got a ways to go.

      • 81 57andfemale
        March 27, 2012 at 3:12 pm

        Different issues are argued on different days. When you hear the questions asked by the justices, there is no excuse for Vermilli to be unprepared to answer effectively. They didn’t throw curveballs — the questions were completely predictable. No one, even staunch supporters of the law who are writing today, think he did a good job. And yes, today is immensely important on its own.

    • March 27, 2012 at 1:31 pm

      Toobin is a disaster. Isn’t he the same guy who said Justice Sotomayor was completely unqualified to be a Supreme Court Justice, and he’s spent several nights with Keith Olbermann (when he was back on MSNBC, I don’t want Current) criticizing the President on every little topic. I don’t know how he has any credibility.

      • 83 Linda
        March 27, 2012 at 1:45 pm

        He was on Countdown last night saying they would uphold….I watched him defend a Federal Judge that was being impeached last year.

        He lost the case and I was not impressed with his style at all.

        Go figure….

  21. 84 lovingandlaughing
    March 27, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    i just gave a little bit too College Kay! best wishes in meeting your goal and then to go beyond your goal!

  22. 85 Dudette
    March 27, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    San Diego gets the national news spotlight again…

    iPads, Laptops Stolen From Romney Aides’ SUV
    Stolen Items May Have Valuable Information For Opponents Of GOP Presidential Candidate Mitt Romney

  23. 86 Liberal Librarian
    March 27, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    Okay, okay, let’s not panic yet—and that includes myself. From TPM’s David Kurtz:

    I just instant messaged briefly with Sahil Kaupr, our reporter on the scene, and he was more circumspect than Toobin, agreeing that the administration was subject to tough questioning, but noting that a clear majority bloc has not emerged yet to strike down the law.

    The drafters of the Constitution made many mistakes. Keeping slavery was the gravest. But I think following that in a close second was lifetime tenure for federal judges, including SCOTUS justices.

    • March 27, 2012 at 12:48 pm

      Agree about the mistakes, and I will try to not jump to conclusions also, but almost all the reports have been alarming—in fact, all except this exchange with TPM’s Kaupr.
      I just don’t trust this Sup. Ct. As Josh Marshall tweeted, Bush v. Gore 2.0?

      • 88 Liberal Librarian
        March 27, 2012 at 12:54 pm

        Is there one more day of argument?

        • 89 hopefruit2
          March 27, 2012 at 12:56 pm

          Yes, and a decision will not be rendered until June. My thoughts are along the same lines as this individual here:

          • 90 Liberal Librarian
            March 27, 2012 at 12:59 pm


            What infuriates me to no end is that getting something done in this country for the common good gets blowback from people who will be helped by the new law. No, Justice Scalia, the Obama Administration isn’t telling citizens to eat broccoli; it just wants to make sure that the country doesn’t bankrupt itself with health costs. Asswipe.

          • 91 nospin
            March 27, 2012 at 2:07 pm

            hopefruit2 – Count me in as having the same thoughts.

        • March 27, 2012 at 1:33 pm

          There is only a total of 6 hours of argument.

      • March 27, 2012 at 1:10 pm

        One day of tough questioning in March does not decide how the court will rule in June. Slow down. This may go back and forth for awhile.

        And of course the reports are alarming. You know that’s how the media deals with this President. Open mic ring a bell? I know we all want to stay up to date on what’s going on but don’t let these hacks make you crazy.

  24. 94 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
    March 27, 2012 at 12:45 pm


  25. 95 Dudette
    March 27, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    Woot! Look at collegekay’s total grow! Nice work, TOD’ers. Keep it going if you can.

  26. 96 Dudette
    March 27, 2012 at 12:48 pm

    Santorum’s okay with being the VP pick…

    “Monday’s campaign news cycle was all about “bullshit”-gate, a controversy over an outburst Santorum made at a New York Times reporter. Cursing at a journalist on camera ensured that the spat became the news, rather than any serious discussion of his viability as a candidate. It also gave critics an easy target for a candidate who espouses conservative family values as a cornerstone of his campaign.

    And “bullshit”-gate wasn’t even the biggest gaffe Santorum made since winning the primary.

    That came in a Monday in which Santorum turned in his flamethrower badge and effectively gave up his role as anti-Romney insurgent. In an interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network, Santorum said he’d be comfortable running as Romney’s running mate.

    “I’ll do whatever is necessary to help our country,” Santorum said when asked if he’d consider joining a Romney ticket.”

  27. March 27, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    Well, I’ve just finished talking to the HHS Human Resources department about my application to CDC and it looks like I did not get the job I applied for. From the statement I got from the HR Specialist, I wasn’t considered for the position. They rank you based solely on your answers to the online questionnaire in comparison to the resume you post on USAJOBS.gov. Based on an algorithm used for Federal job applicants to weaning out qualified applicants for positions, they rank you on a scale of 100%. For the job I applied for, my ranking was 89%. The HR Specialist said that I was considered a “well-qualified” applicant, but based on my score, I wasn’t the “best-qualified” applicant (i.e. >95%) for the position.

    So that’s that then. I think I’m gonna spend the rest of the summer saving some money and deciding what my next journey will be.

    thanks everyone who provided me some good vibes.

    • March 27, 2012 at 12:55 pm

      I’m sorry, lamh. I know you must be so disappointed. I bet something else will present itself soon. Keep a positive outlook. I wish the best for you.

    • 99 isonprize
      March 27, 2012 at 12:59 pm

      lamh35, my suggestion, as former govt employee, is, if you really really really want to work at the CDC, apply for every job that you qualify for, whether or not you really want it. It’s much easier to get a job in government, when you are already in the department where you want to be. Also, you may find that your ‘dream job’ isn’t really the job you thought it was. Or you may find out that it’s EXACTLY what you want. If you are “in” the system, you have a better shot of getting the gig. Just my $.02. Peace on your journey

    • 102 Dudette
      March 27, 2012 at 1:19 pm

      Aww, that bites lamh. I know a couple of people who’ve had similar difficulties getting into the CDC. Try the the private route, if you can. Lots of biotech-related stuff going on in Georgia. Check out this list of companies on the download page here:


      Check out their websites and see if something there pans out for you.
      Keep your head up. The right opportunity will come to you, I just know it.

    • 103 Dudette
      March 27, 2012 at 1:31 pm

      This might not be a job, but something of interest perhaps?

    • 104 vcprezofan2
      March 27, 2012 at 1:45 pm

      Sorry you didn’t get in THIS TIME, lamh; maybe next time will be the charm.

  28. 105 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
    March 27, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    SCOTUS Citizens United decision is, as all of you know, among the very worst.

    For SCOTUS to disrupt #ObamaCares would have enormous and rapid negative consequences to both SCOTUS and the Party of Koch & Norquist (PKN – former GOP).

    The PKN has already solidified women, Hispanics, AAs, unions, LGBTs and thinking people against them.

    Enabling President Obama to run a campaign in which he can excoriate the PKN & SCOTUS for both the vastly undemocratic consequences of Citizens United and the harm disrupting #ObamaCares would do to countless Americans – well, as orchestrated by our brilliant President – you will in_deed witness #LandslideOBAMA & #LandslideDEMS on 6 Nov 2012.

    And, in 2013 you will see legislation to make Medicare available to every US citizen and it will pass. And, in 2013 you will see Citizens United overturned by Congress.


    • 106 isonprize
      March 27, 2012 at 1:00 pm

      Your tweetin’ mouth to God’s ears!!!

    • 109 Liberal Librarian
      March 27, 2012 at 1:05 pm

      God Bob, I hope you’re right. I’m just livid right now that all these forces are arrayed against a piece of legislation that HELPS PEOPLE. I write the best when I’m in a rage, so something’s bubbling up for a TPV piece.

      • 110 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
        March 27, 2012 at 1:12 pm

        Go for it, LL. Really respect your writing and that you TPV as a venue to share it with others.

        It’s a lose-lose for the #KOCHSTERS on SCOTUS – they harm ACA, they harm millions of Americans and #PresObama will make them regret it forever; they rule ACA is Constitutional, well the #teabagger, Bircher minions of Koch and clan will not treat them well.


    • 111 sonjiaduncan
      March 27, 2012 at 2:55 pm

      Bob, President Obama made some enemies on the court during his SOTU address when he called them out about the Citizens United decision. They just might want to teach this black man a lesson.

  29. 112 a4alice
    March 27, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    Hey Hey CollegeKay – You go! you’re getting up there – I threw somethin in the kitty fer yez. w00t! 😀

  30. 113 donna dem 4 obama
    March 27, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    My opinion is in line with yours Bobfr.

    Personally, I have never had any faith in those justices. I have no idea how this will all turn out and none of us do but based on the history of this court (Citizens United and Gore v Bush) I know how these major cases generally are decided. Justice Kenney the supposedly “swing vote” generally sides with the conservatives. I cannot think of one case in recent history (the last 10 years) where he had sided with the more liberal or moderate justices.

    We can have the most brilliant attorneys in the world on our side and if this conservative court wants to go in a certain direction on the law they will.

    This is why elections matter so when our liberal/progressive friends tell us when speaking about politicians and lumping them all together and then they say, “they are all the same so it doesn’t make a difference who we vote for” remind them of the Supreme Court and the profound affect that their decisions have on our daily lives.

    I believe that a win will confirm the President’s decision on ACA but I believe it will rally the Right (to no avail) and if god-forbid we lose this case it will be a tremendous boost and rally cry for our side.

    I am preparing myself for either scenario.

    • March 27, 2012 at 1:26 pm

      If the case is lost, then I believe it’s too much to expect a human being to put their neck on the line again to try and pass something so significant that was spit on by so many. I’m sure the President would do it because he believes so strongly in health security, but it’s not entirely clear that many of the cowards in Congress – especially those who refused to tout the benefits of the bill in 2010 – would stand up for another battle.

      The fact that this case is even legitimately being debated in the Supreme Court right now is an extreme embarrassment for this country. And the fact that there are people praying against the law in front of the Supreme Court is extremely frightening. It’s evil.

  31. 115 Ladyhawke
    March 27, 2012 at 1:20 pm


    Forget precedent. Ignore Scalia’s musings. Next week’s health care argument before the Supreme Court is all about optics, politics, and public opinion.

    By Dahlia Lithwick (3/22/12)


    The first proposition is that the health care law is constitutional. The second is that the court could strike it down anyway. Linda Greenhouse makes the first point more eloquently than I can. That the law is constitutional is best illustrated by the fact that—until recently—the Obama administration expended almost no energy defending it. Back when the bill passed Nancy Pelosi famously reacted to questions about its constitutionality with the words, “Are you serious?” And the fact that the Obama administration rushed the case to the Supreme Court in an election year is all the evidence you need to understand that they remain confident in their prospects. The law is a completely valid exercise of Congress’ Commerce Clause power, and all the conservative longing for the good old days of the pre-New Deal courts won’t put us back in those days as if by magic. Nor does it amount to much of an argument.

    So that brings us to the really interesting question: Will the Court’s five conservatives strike it down regardless? That’s what we’re really talking about next week and that has almost nothing to do with law and everything to do with optics, politics, and public opinion.



    • 116 57andfemale
      March 27, 2012 at 1:25 pm

      No one believed Bush v. Gore would be decided the way it was either and the Court is even worse now.

      If they’re buying the broccoli defense, this is not good news.

  32. March 27, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    Of course, Toobin for CNN is the one that started this rumor, that the HC law will be struck down!

    • 118 donna dem 4 obama
      March 27, 2012 at 1:25 pm

      The truth is that it doesn’t really matter what the media says. This conservative court will decide and we should be prepared for either scenario.

    • 119 p
      March 27, 2012 at 1:32 pm

      Uhhhh I was listening to CNN and had to turn that shit off!!!! Dude was getting on like he has foresight or he’s freaking Jesus Christ!!!! This is ridiculous!!!!

  33. 121 yardarm756
    March 27, 2012 at 1:26 pm

    Good afternoon y’all. I dug up the following bit for some of us that are old enough to remember. A little entertainment while we wait for the black robes to justify their existence.

    Subject: Older Than Dirt


    ‘Someone asked the other day, ‘What was your favorite fast food when you were growing up?’
    ‘We didn’t have fast food when I was growing up,’ I informed him..
    ‘All the food was slow.’

    ‘C’mon, seriously. Where did you eat?’
    ‘It was a place called ‘at home,” I explained. !
    ‘Mom cooked every day and when Dad got home from work, we sat down together at the dining room table, and if I didn’t like what she put on my plate I was allowed to sit there until I did like it..’

    By this time, the kid was laughing so hard I was afraid he was going to suffer serious internal damage, so I didn’t tell him the part about how I had to have permission to leave the table.
    But here are some other things I would have told him about my childhood if I figured his system could have handled it :
    Some parents NEVER owned their own house, never wore Levis, never set foot on a golf course, never traveled out of the country or had a credit card.
    In their later years they had something called a revolving charge card. The card was good only at Sears Roebuck. Or maybe it was Sears & Roebuck.
    Either way, there is no Roebuck anymore. Maybe he died.

    My parents never drove me to soccer practice. This was mostly because we never had heard of soccer. I had a bicycle that weighed probably 50 pounds, and only had one speed, (slow)
    We didn’t have a television in our house until I was 19.
    It was, of course, black and white, and the station went off the air at midnight, after playing the national anthem and a poem about God; it came back on the air at about 6 a..m. And there was usually a locally produced news and farm show on, featuring local people.

    I was 21 before I tasted my first pizza, it was called ‘pizza pie.’
    When I bit into it, I burned the roof of my mouth and the cheese slid off, swung down, plastered itself against my chin and burned that, too. It’s still the best pizza I ever had..

    I never had a telephone in my room.
    The only phone in the house was in the living room and it was on a party line. Before you could dial, you had to listen and make sure some people you didn’t know weren’t already using the line..
    Pizzas were not delivered to our home But milk was.
    All newspapers were delivered by boys and all boys delivered newspapers –my brother delivered a newspaper, six days a week. It cost 7 cents a paper, of which he got to keep 2 cents. He had to get up at 6AM every morning.
    On Saturday, he had to collect the 42 cents from his customers. His favorite customers were the ones who gave him 50 cents and told him to keep the change. His least favorite customers were the ones who seemed to never be home on collection day.
    Movie stars kissed with their mouths shut. At least, they did in the movies. There were no movie ratings because all movies were responsibly produced for everyone to enjoy viewing, without profanity or violence or most anything offensive.

    If you grew up in a generation before there was fast food, you may want to share some of these memories with your children or grandchildren Just don’t blame me if they bust a gut laughing.

    Growing up isn’t what it used to be, is it?
    MEMORIES from a friend :
    My Dad is cleaning out my grandmother’s house (she died in December) and he brought me an old Royal Crown Cola bottle. In the bottle top was a stopper with a bunch of holes in it.. I knew immediately what it was, but my daughter had no idea.. She thought they had tried to make it a salt shaker or something. I knew it as the bottle that sat on the end of the ironing board to ‘sprinkle’ clothes with because we didn’t have steam irons. Man, I am old.
    How many do you remember?
    Head lights dimmer switches on the floor.
    Ignition switches on the dashboard.
    Heaters mounted on the inside of the fire wall.
    Real ice boxes.
    Pant leg clips for bicycles without chain guards.
    Soldering irons you heat on a gas burner.
    Using hand signals for cars without turn signals.

    Older Than Dirt Quiz :
    Count all the ones that you remember not the ones you were told about.
    Ratings at the bottom.
    1.. Blackjack chewing gum
    2.Wax Coke-shaped bottles with colored sugar water
    3. Candy cigarettes
    4. Soda pop machines that dispensed glass bottles
    5. Coffee shops or diners with tableside juke boxes
    6. Home milk delivery in glass bottles with cardboard stoppers
    7. Party lines on the telephone
    8 Newsreels before the movie
    9. P.F. Flyers
    10. Butch wax
    11.. TV test patterns that came on at night after the last show and were there until TV shows started again in the morning. (there were only 3 channels [if you were fortunate])
    12. Peashooters
    13. Howdy Doody
    14. 45 RPM records
    15. S& H greenstamps
    16.. Hi-fi’s
    17. Metal ice trays with lever
    18. Mimeograph paper
    19. Blue flashbulb
    20. Packards
    21. Roller skate keys
    22. Cork popguns
    23. Drive-ins
    24. Studebakers
    25. Wash tub wringers

    If you remembered 0-5 = You’re still young
    If you remembered 6-10 = You are getting older
    If you remembered 11-15 = Don’t tell your age,
    If you remembered 16-25 = You’ re older t han dirt!

    I might be older than dirt but those memories are some of the best parts of my life.

    • 122 p
      March 27, 2012 at 1:42 pm

      Awww. I range in the 0-5 range :(. Wish I was in the era of “slow food” though….not only because nothing beat Granny’s cooking but because something about that lifetime sparks interest in me.

    • March 27, 2012 at 1:44 pm

      Oh my God, I remembered all of them. I am old.

      • 124 yardarm756
        March 27, 2012 at 2:31 pm

        Not to worry japa two one. You are not alone.

      • 125 miss pat
        March 27, 2012 at 2:43 pm

        Me too. 66 this September and I remember them all. Especially picking up the phone and hearing someone on there. Had to listen to some gossip, couldn’t hang up right away. Sometimes you caught the voices sometimes you didn’t. Worked at the phone company on the old switchboard the ones that took up a whole room in a long line with wires to the front and back. Back for answering, front for sending calls. Good old days.

    • 126 Dudette
      March 27, 2012 at 1:58 pm

      I didn’t remember them all, but I’m definitely older than dirt! 🙂

    • 130 aquagranny911
      March 27, 2012 at 2:36 pm

      I’m definitely older than dirt! I will add “the back house” (that was the out door toilet) just for you younguns information. Also hand pumping water from the well. My Granny didn’t get indoor plumbing until I was about 7. That was the best, sweetest cold, well water on a hot day. I can still taste it. Best was making fresh peach ice cream on Granny’s patio with everyone taking a turn at the hand crank.

      What I won’t treasure is doing laundry with the old wringer washer and ironing everything even the linen dish towels or doing dishes by hand for 12 people every day. Then there was canning, I don’t miss that either.

      • 131 miss pat
        March 27, 2012 at 2:49 pm

        We have surely come from far. I moved into a new apartment and I h ave a nice new dishwasher. No more dipping your hand in greasy water. I would have killed for one of those had wringing washing machine. We used a scrub board and the wringer was your hand. As for that ice vream bucket it was hard to do but we took turns turning.

      • 132 yardarm756
        March 27, 2012 at 2:49 pm

        You gotta admit that our days were full and we were seldom bored.

    • 133 sonjiaduncan
      March 27, 2012 at 3:07 pm

      I will be 69 on Monday but still here, if that’s older than dirt then it’s been good.

    • 136 sjterrid
      March 27, 2012 at 4:52 pm

      I’m at the don’t tell your age stage.

      • 137 yardarm756
        March 27, 2012 at 5:45 pm

        Oh really? If you remember any of this stuff you should be bragging. 🙂

        • 138 utaustinliberal
          March 27, 2012 at 7:27 pm

          I’m in the 0-5 range. More like the zero. I don’t remember ANY of those items mentioned above. I’ve only heard vague stories. Some of those things existed? Wow.

          • 139 yardarm756
            March 27, 2012 at 8:14 pm

            Don’t worry You’ll have your own set of memories to look back on. I leave you with this that was given to me 60 years ago: “Think about where you’re going;but always remember where you’ve been.”

  34. March 27, 2012 at 1:32 pm

    Is the health care market unique enough to warrant a government mandate to purchase health insurance? POLITICO’s Jason Millman flags Justice Anthony Kennedy — a key swing vote — leaning towards yes in Tuesday’s oral arguments, even as he has tough questions for the government:

    JUSTICE KENNEDY: And the government tells us that’s because the insurance market is unique. And in the next case, it’ll say the next market is unique. But I think it is true that if most questions in life are matters of degree, in the insurance and health care world, both markets — stipulate two markets — the young person who is uninsured is uniquely proximately very close to affecting the rates of insurance and the costs of providing medical care in a way that is not true in other industries. That’s my concern in this case.


    • March 27, 2012 at 1:46 pm

      Hm. That’s different from the “Obamacare is doomed!” talk we’ve been hearing! We’ll just have to see.

    • 142 Liberal Librarian
      March 27, 2012 at 2:02 pm

      Okay, so where the hell did the doom and gloom come from? That seems like someone who’s leaning towards the government’s case. Is the media really that corrupt?

      • 143 hopefruit2
        March 27, 2012 at 2:08 pm

        Didn’t I tell ya? The doom and gloom came from the usual suspects – Sam Stein of HuffnPuff; Ezra Klein; the Professional Left “Public option” hysteria freaks, The corporate media including MSNBC, CNN and their jerk-ass “legal analysts” and many others.

        • 144 Liberal Librarian
          March 27, 2012 at 2:13 pm

          The members of our failed media experiment don’t care about ACA being repealed. They’ll still have their health care. They just want to gin up ratings. Quite frankly, they disgust me.

  35. 145 vcprezofan2
    March 27, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    Congrats CollegeKay, and TODville, you are over the 2/3 mark! Good luck as you hit your stride in the final lap.

  36. March 27, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    This woman is a lawyer and she was near the front of the line to go into the court and witness.

    • 147 hopefruit2
      March 27, 2012 at 1:52 pm

      So you believe that propaganda. And her pejorative use of the word “Obamacare” is duly noted, as was the case with HuffnPuff’s Sam Stein.

      • March 27, 2012 at 2:07 pm

        Not sure what you’re getting at but she is on our side. Just click on her name and look at her timeline.
        She’s making a statement about the pitiful Alito falling asleep during oral arguments.

        • 149 hopefruit2
          March 27, 2012 at 2:12 pm

          If she’s on our side then she’s being careless with those tweets. The fact that Alito is falling asleep doesn’t mean a damn thing. She’s feeding into the hysteria by giving a ball-by-ball report along with her interpretation of every bodily twitch of the panel. I don’t think that’s helping our cause.

    • 150 hopefruit2
      March 27, 2012 at 2:02 pm

      Another thing – the fact that someone has the title of “lawyer” does not mean they’re anything other than a 1st-class dolt. Just ask Rick Santorum, the lawyer.

      • March 27, 2012 at 2:08 pm

        I added that she’s a lawyer because she is fighting for ACA and understands the legal jargon in a way that perhaps I do not. Nothing more, nothing less.

        • 152 hopefruit2
          March 27, 2012 at 2:15 pm

          Okay then. But her tweet about Alito falling asleep is not helpful at all. Even if someone is on our side they can and sometimes do get a bit ahead of themselves in feeding media hysteria and propaganda. Given the hysteria that already exists because of what the media just put out, she could have been a bit more restrained that regard. Just my 2 cents.

    • 153 Liberal Librarian
      March 27, 2012 at 2:06 pm

      So Alito is an Italian version of Thomas. No surprise there. They both have a visceral hatred of the President.

    • March 27, 2012 at 2:37 pm

      The disrespect that these neocon justices have for the office, is only exceeded by the disrespect that they have for the people of this country. Sickening….

  37. 155 57andfemale
    March 27, 2012 at 1:36 pm

    Much of the commentary appears to be based on the questioning of the government’s position. There is some hope from some of the questions posed to the challengers’:

    Justice Kennedy again jumps in with a comment that expresses some sympathy for the government. All citizens are in the market, he said, in the sense that they’re creating a risk that must be accounted for.
    . . . .

    Chief Justice Roberts speaks up with his first comments that appear to help the government. The chief said the key to the government’s argument is that everyone is in the health-care market, which makes this different than other products. All the government is trying to do, he said, is regulate how health care is paid for.

    . . . .

    Justice Kennedy, who had been critical of the government’s argument earlier in the day, for the first time jumps in to take issue with the challengers. He seems to bristle at the suggestion that young, healthy people without insurance are somehow beyond regulatory consideration. Such a person is “an actuarial reality who can and must be measured,” he said.

    • 156 sabreen60
      March 27, 2012 at 2:24 pm

      Why would young people be beyond regulatory consideration. My adult son’s new job would not pay for health insurance until the employee had been there 6 months. While my son was in his 3rd month on the job, he broke his finger playing basketball. His finger was broken in such a way that surgery was needed. The doctor had to put pins in his finger. Had my son not had the surgery his finger would be deformed for the rest of his life. Accidents happen. I don’t care how old you are. We paid for the surgery because I couldn’t bear the thought of my son having problems using his hand forever. There are plenty of young people who get cancer and any number of diseases. What is wrong with these people.

  38. 157 Ladyhawke
    March 27, 2012 at 1:52 pm


    By Steve Benen


    As Jon Chait explained, “The choice we face is not between Obamacare and some different, even more ‘market-friendly’ alternative reform. It’s between Obamacare and subjecting millions of Americans to the insecurity and suffering of lacking health insurance. The uninsured can have the Republicans’ answer now. Their offer is this: nothing.”

    When the debate over health care reform got underway in earnest in 2009, Frank Luntz and other GOP pollsters/strategists warned the party that Americans expected improvements to the dysfunctional system, and Republicans couldn’t simply say “no” to everything.

    Three years later, that’s effectively where the party has ended up: wanting to go back to the mess “Obamacare” is cleaning up.
    So what’s wrong with Obama’s approach of minimum standards to prevent this? For consumers and families, nothing. For conservatives, though, it means federal regulations, and we can’t have that because it would mean officials looking out for consumers, which is, you know, bad. Or something



  39. 158 daiseymay1
    March 27, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    Well, I am older than dirt! Thanks for the fun.

  40. 159 sabreen60
    March 27, 2012 at 1:57 pm

    Happy Birthday Proud. Please enjoy your day!!!

  41. 160 Brit
    March 27, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    We all have to breathe. I hope that the portions of the law being debated in front of the SC aren’t overturned, because too many people depend on the law. However, I think we all have an idea about how the ruling will be due to the makeup of the judges. Also, Clarence not asking questions is weird. I know back in 09′ it was reported that he went a ver long time not asking questions during hearings. There is no point for him to be there, and earn his salary, since he is not actually a participating judge.

  42. 162 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
    March 27, 2012 at 1:58 pm


  43. 163 hopefruit2
    March 27, 2012 at 1:59 pm

    Hmm..@Barack Obama seems rather nonchalant – with the usual tweets about the ACA. Meanwhile people are freaking out over media circus hysteria….

    • 164 nospin
      March 27, 2012 at 2:14 pm

      that is because ACA will be upheld. Not sure why folks are insistent on the hand wringing especially so early in the cycle.

      I am confident the law will be upheld in it’s entirety. Everything else is noise and a diversion to create a distraction from the repub field.

  44. 165 Dudette
    March 27, 2012 at 2:02 pm

    Awww, I have a special place in my heart for Dr. Maddy (Former Sec of State Madeleine Albright). Always wished I could be her student. Got a campaign email from her today.
    It seems every time women take one step forward, extremists try to push us back.

    Here in America, Republicans have launched an all out attack on women’s rights. They’ve targeted women’s health care and are trying to roll back basic rights that most of us thought were won more than a generation ago.

    My friend Nancy Pelosi and House Democrats are fighting back against the Republican attacks on women’s rights. And, they need your help.

    They’ve set a goal of raising $2.5 million before the key end-of-quarter FEC deadline to show we will stand strong and united against the Republican attack on women’s rights.

    Republicans are on the wrong side of history, once again.

    Women will never go back to the days where we could not control our own reproductive health care decisions – and we will not remain silent in the face of vicious misogyny and anti-women hate speech.

    But, one thing I’ve learned is that rights never stay won. Each generation must stand up and fight to hold accountable those who would try to take our rights away.

    Please stand with me, Leader Pelosi and House Democrats today:


    Thank you,
    Madeleine Albright

  45. 166 Liberal Librarian
    March 27, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    Maybe it’s because I just got done with Story Time and basking in the glow of my Story Time kids, but I’m a bit less panicky right now, especially after reading more reports that indicate that Kennedy and Roberts, though asking hard questions, seem to be favorable to the government’s argument. When I think of why I want this country to change the way it does things, I just picture my Tuesday morning crowd. They have to be left a better world than the one we have.

    • 167 Dudette
      March 27, 2012 at 2:08 pm

      Such a beautiful thought, LL. Thanks for that!

    • March 27, 2012 at 2:12 pm

      Part of the role of the justices is to grill both sides hard and challenge their arguments. If you listen to just a small portion, you will end up with only a partial view. Neither sets of questions, toward the government or the plaintiffs, will directly tell you which way they are leaning. I would be more interested in the tone of the questions and comments, rather than the words themselves. Not seeing much reporting on that aspect.

    • 171 donna dem 4 obama
      March 27, 2012 at 2:19 pm

      LL, you express yourself so well!

      It’s okay and IMO we are entitled to feel passionately about this case. It will have a profound affect on each of us not just politically but personally as well. Our media will be ridiculous and unfortunately they are the source of news and we have to take everything they say with a grain of salt. It shouldn’t be that way but the days of Cronkite have long since past.

      Hang in there its gonna be a long, hot summer 😉

    • 172 57andfemale
      March 27, 2012 at 2:27 pm

      I agree, although there appears to be universal assessment that Verilli (our guy) ‘choked’ and Clement (their guy) did great. I won’t have a chance to listen to the oral arguments until later tonight to make my own judgment, but hearing something is not the same as seeing it.

      It does appear that none of the questions should have been unanticipated by Verilli, which is why people are really unhappy with his performance.

      Some of Roberts’ and Kennedy’s comments are encouraging, however.

  46. 173 Dudette
    March 27, 2012 at 2:06 pm

    CK needs $11 to meet her goal. C’mon, who’s gonna put her over the top?

  47. March 27, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    Here is TPM’s article on Kennedy and Roberts. I’m with LL – feeling a little less panicky.


    • 179 Liberal Librarian
      March 27, 2012 at 2:25 pm

      And like Deaniac says, if the court votes to uphold the law but strike down the mandate, then private insurance will die a quick death. And as Bob says, if the entire law is stricken, then PBO and the Dems will roar fully on totally remaking health care by pushing for Medicare for all. Everyone loves Medicare. It would be a landslide.

      • 180 57andfemale
        March 27, 2012 at 3:44 pm

        Whoa. Let me read Deaniac before I respond in full, but the basic premise — without the mandate private insurance dies a quick death — I just don’t get that at all. Even if they are required to ‘offer’ insurance that covers pre-existing conditions, if there are no mechanisms for controlling the premiums, then can’t they charge anything they want and the public will indeed be ‘free’ to not have health care?

        And if the SC determines that the mandate is not severable, isn’t there a chance the entire bill goes down in flames? There’s still the issue of the expansion of Medicaid as well.

        Unfortunately, because of the poisonous political climate under which the bill had to be drafted, I don’t believe there is anything in this bill that guarantees health care to anybody, just a more effective mechanism for making it affordable through the private market, therefore it will be available to more Americans.

        I’ve seen PBO work magic in turning around a narrative. I just wish he could have stood on the shoulders of a giant of his own making, with the majority of Americans understanding what groundbreaking legislation this is and how much the entire country will benefit from its implementation. He’s not starting from a position of strength if the mandate or any other portion of the bill is struck down.

        • 181 Liberal Librarian
          March 27, 2012 at 5:25 pm

          The mandate is the thing that keeps down costs. Take the mandate out, and the whole structure crumbles. Will SCOTUS strike the mandate and keep the rest of the law? I don’t know. Right now I’m in a rage that something so commonsensical and beneficial to the majority of people in this country is under attack. I’m really close to hating a large segment of our population, and that’s not healthy.

      • 182 sonjiaduncan
        March 27, 2012 at 4:07 pm

        I agree, get rid of health insurance for good. Equal care for all.

  48. 183 p
    March 27, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    Wait….I’m surfing the web and I’m seeing prominent news websites taking a spin on this Trayvon Martin travesty! They are now questioning whether a teenager who was armed only with skittles and ice tea could have initiated his death is infuriating me! First of all I’m already infuriated because Zimmerman is not arrested and the Stanford FL police did not conduct a proper police investigation at the night of the shooting!!! According to Zimmerman he was heading back to his vehicle when Trayvon approach him, a argument ensued, Trayvon punched him in the nose knocking him to the ground, jump on top of him and began beating his head against the pavement…nothing add up!!! Nothing adds up to the time Trayvon was on the phone with his girlfriend and the time the police arrived, nothing adds up to the 9 11 calls and the screaming indidvidual that immediately stopped screaming as soon as the gun shot went off and I could go on and on. But I would just like to say this to you all and you can give me and answer, If you identify a person as suspicious and that person comes up to you, you have a gun in your waist wouldn’t you pull out your gun immediately and point it to the suspicious indidvidual and say “step one step closer and I’ll blow your brains out!” ??? Now that reaction would of definitely scare off Trayvon simply because as stated in the police report he was unarmed!!!! An unarmed indidvidual would not try to fight someone with a gun it’s a natural thing!!

    Secondly all these fools who are saying he’s a criminal just because they found marijuana residue on him or because he defaced school property or because on his twitter page he referred to himself with a racial slur then there are sooooooo many teenagers of all racial background that needs to be shot!….starting with the President of the United States. So many black rappers used the N-word to describe themselves and others. So many doctors, lawyers, News Presenters, Teacher, Entertainers etc were suspended during their school years for many different reasons. Teens makes mistakes for many different reasons but to deny them the opportunity to redeem themselves is outrageous!!!! This young man had NO CRIMINAL RECORDS….he may have not been a saint neither are YOU!!! He didn’t deserve to die that way and this Zimmerman idiot needs to be ARRESTED NOW!!!!!! I’m not appalled by this tragedy at all but I am outrage by the fact that despite public outcry nothing has been down more than a month later! SAD SAD SAD!!!!

    • 184 Walking_on_ Sunshine
      March 27, 2012 at 10:16 pm

      Zimmerman is a killer. He gets to make up whatever he wants to because his victim is dead and cannot speak up to defend himself and now he’s trying to save his own ass. The media are doing this to stir up trouble. I’m white but I will tell you the truth. They want a violent reaction from black people. They want to provoke anger. They want it to become another source of division because they were scared that all DECENT people black and white were united in their sympathy for Trayvan and his family. All the teenage sons of my (white) friends have smoked dope. It shouldn’t be an issue.
      I’m going to pray now. I’m pretty disgusted with the world.

  49. 187 Ladyhawke
    March 27, 2012 at 2:27 pm


    Why the last hour of the Supreme Court argument over Obamacare matters most.

    By Simon Lazarus


    By the third day of Supreme Court arguments over the Affordable Care Act, people may be inclined to tune out. They shouldn’t. The final hour may be of far greater consequence than anything else the court hears this week. On Wednesday afternoon, the justices will vet a claim that targets the part of the new law that expands the Medicaid program. The Republican governors and attorneys general bringing the case against the health care law assert that the choice given states by the federal government—either accept coverage of approximately 16 million newly eligible beneficiaries or withdraw from Medicaid and lose all existing federal Medicaid funds—is “coercion.” Hence, they argue that with this provision, the federal government is unconstitutionally undermining state autonomy.
    Then again, the court will probably not relish the opportunity to risk disruption at all levels of government. No matter how much Clement and the challengers try to downplay it, the court’s conservatives know how much hinges on this last hour of argument. Let’s hope they rise above the temptations put before them.



  50. March 27, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    NFIB said the argument against HCR went very good.
    Justice Kennedy maybe the only hope. They seem to have had a pre conceived notion, before the arguments.

  51. 189 Walking_on_ Sunshine
    March 27, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    I donated a little collegekay. I am going to meditate and put out positive vibes and prayers for ACA to be upheld. Goodness knows it’s time we had this. I signed and tweeted the petition from the DCCC in support of Health Care Reform. Don’t know what else to do now but wait and pray.

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