329 Responses to “keep on fighting”


  1. March 10, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    How did that happen? LOL

  2. 12 vitaminlover
    March 10, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    Congratulations, libra.

  3. 13 defytheodds
    March 10, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    Arkansas Speaker-Elect Darrin Williams breaks barriers

    By a 54-46 vote, state Rep. Darrin Williams will become the first African American Speaker of the Arkansas House of Representatives in 2013.

    The historical symbolism of Rep. Williams’ victory cannot be overstated, though Williams himself has been quick to downplay the impact of race on his election as Speaker:

    The state has never had a black Speaker of the House or statewide elected official. Moreover, Williams attended Little Rock Central High School, which was forcibly integrated in 1957 when President Dwight Eisenhower deployed federal troops to protect nine black students.

    The candidates, however, downplayed the historical significance of Friday’s contest. (…)

    “I think it’s time we get beyond a lot of firsts,” he said, “first of color, first female _ that does not at all weigh in my decision to run, and I hope it doesn’t weigh in the decision of any of my colleagues who are supporting me.”

    • 14 vitaminlover
      March 10, 2012 at 10:26 pm

      Halleluiah!!

    • 15 yardarm756
      March 10, 2012 at 10:50 pm

      “The time has come,” the Walrus said,”To talk of many things:
      Of shoes–and ships–and sealing-wax–Of cabbages–and kings–
      And why the sea is boiling hot–And whether pigs have wings.”
      They flyin’ y’all. They flyin’.

  4. 16 Diane
    March 10, 2012 at 10:28 pm

    I don’t have a TV and I have not regretted that decision until now!

  5. 18 Tally
    March 10, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    HAAAA. “She didn’t know why North and South Korea were different countires.”

    Anyone else watching this?

    • 19 57andFemale
      March 10, 2012 at 10:37 pm

      I LOVE this movie!

    • 20 JoJothecat
      March 11, 2012 at 12:01 am

      I am watching “Too Cute” and “Must Love Cats” on the animal planet. I have a permanate smile on my face, kittahs are sooooooo cute ( all babys are too cute – animal and human)

  6. March 10, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    • March 10, 2012 at 11:30 pm

      read the article it’s amazing to me how the Republicans eat their young. According to this, now “advisors” are branding her as a ‘diva’ and a ‘whack job’.

      Well. Go ahead advisors. be my guest.

      uh oh snl’s on

  7. March 10, 2012 at 10:32 pm

    McCain staff cheering Palin debate performance—-then get the first poll—-CBS had Biden winning 46% to 21%. Schmidt says “F CBS”.

    • March 10, 2012 at 11:08 pm

      Sounds like the McCain staff was really deluded. Did they really think she won that debate? Maybe with the rabid, ignorant base that wouldn’t know the arctic from the antarctic, but amongst thinking people – as soon as she said she wasn’t going to answer a single question, and then started winking into the camera – she was done.

      Thanks for those who are watching and commenting – that’s as close as I want to get to actually watching that movie.

      • 28 Obama Grandmama
        March 11, 2012 at 12:46 am

        I remember in the debate when Palin told the moderator that she would choose to answer the questions differently than they intended because she wanted to or some such gobbly gook. When she said that she lost the debate in my own opinion.

        • 29 Judith Fardig
          March 11, 2012 at 1:47 am

          Isn’t that what Mitt Romney has tried to pull in his recent debates?! Didn’t work for her and it isn’t working for him either.

        • 30 anniebella
          March 11, 2012 at 5:23 am

          Grandmama, Palin lost the debate when she walk on the stage.

    • 31 57andFemale
      March 10, 2012 at 11:10 pm

      Didn’t you just love how the only good thing they called her was “a great actress”? Who the hell thought this was a sympathetic portrait ? Because she loved her family?

  8. March 10, 2012 at 10:33 pm

    Showing Pat Buchanan raving about Palin post debate, calling her the next Ronald Reagan etc.

  9. March 10, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    The Movie Game Changer is too painful to watch.. I changed my television back to “Mommie Dearest” LOL 🙂

    • 35 JoJothecat
      March 11, 2012 at 12:13 am

      Hello my fello libra….I know what you mean, GC has to bring back some bad memories. When Mommie Dearest becomes a “feel good” movie compared to GC, you know we were exposed to a sh#t storm that we were saved from.

  10. 36 Marlz (@marjgra)
    March 10, 2012 at 10:36 pm

  11. 37 GGail
    March 10, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    Thanks Chipsticks for that video. I am so excited about the Grand Opening of the Los Angeles OFA Headquarters next Thursday 3/15/2012, that it’ll be like Christmas come early. I hope I get to meet LL, & Tally and HZ and other Southern Calif TODers!!!

    • March 10, 2012 at 11:58 pm

      Hey GGail and fellow TODers!

      I’ve been out of contact today. Puppy is at boarding while we shovel pebbles so that the little schmuck doesn’t eat them any more. He’s cost us two trips to the vet and $600 in bills. Thank goodness for CareCredit.

      Where’s the new LA hq? I’ll try to make it, but I get off at 6 from work, so it might be difficult. If we all go we should wear carnations!

      I’ve been following everyone’s posts about “Game Change”. Now I’m going to have to get it on DVD when it comes out — sounds like a hoot, and another nail in the GOP’s coffin.

  12. March 10, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    Damn, Palin did a Tina Turner to Steve Schmidt.

  13. March 10, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    Now she’s going rogue where she wants to make her own scheduled stops on her “Vice Presidential campaign”—–they remind her that no one will be around to greet her at 3:00a.m. when she would arrive at desired destination. Now reports on the $300,000 spent on Palin’s clothes. Now they’re telling her to stop saying she has been cleared of all wrong doing in Troopergate because she hasn’t. And saying First Dude was never a member of Alaskan Independence Party because he was indeed a member, some secessionist sect. Schmidt tells her she has to stop saying things to the press is blatantly untrue. Now she’s telling Schmidt that all the people are coming to see her, not John McCain and she’s going to do what she wants.

    • 41 defytheodds
      March 10, 2012 at 10:44 pm

      You Go Girl!

      • 42 JoJothecat
        March 11, 2012 at 12:20 am

        Tina is baadass…I remember seeing her back in the 70’s where she danced across the stage on one leg. I live in Los Angeles and there was a black newspaper that focused on black entertainers, they had a picture of a womans legs, WE ALL KNEW they belonged to Tina Turner, she has the most beautiful and most insured legs in the world, she had them insured by Lloyds of London. Her legs are now only second to the FLOTUS.

  14. 43 GGail
    March 10, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    Gotta go!
    Have a great evening everyone 🙂

  15. March 10, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    Now Palin is beginning the real hatefest against Obama, palling around with terrorists, saying he doesn’t see America like the rest of us, Bill Ayers stupid accusations, inciting crowds to yell, “Kill him!” Haven’t shown any race baiting but that was a huge part of it too. I’ll never forget all the racists standing in line with their stuffed monkeys and ugly racist signs. Showed McCain’s one honorable moment when he told the one dumbhead lady she was wrong when she was saying Obama was some Muslim extremist etc.

  16. March 10, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    Now they’re getting the bad news (for them, glorious for everyone else) on election night. Lost Pa. Lost Oh. Nicole Wallace said she couldn’t bring herself to vote for their ticket.

    • 49 defytheodds
      March 10, 2012 at 10:51 pm

      “Nicole Wallace said she couldn’t bring herself to vote for their ticket.” Wow, that’s probably a first?

  17. 50 L3
    March 10, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    Is there an actor portraying PBO or are they using actual video with the real PBO from 2008?

    • March 10, 2012 at 11:05 pm

      They used actual video. Showed a snippet of his speech in Berlin and the huge crowd, a snippet and big wildly cheering crowd shot from Dem convention. May have been a couple others.

      • 52 L3
        March 10, 2012 at 11:10 pm

        Thanks. I don’t have HBO and probably would not have watched it if I had. I despise that woman; but, I must say I did enjoy the play-by-play. Thanks to everyone who had the stomach to watch.

        • 53 donna dem 4 obama
          March 10, 2012 at 11:24 pm

          L3 it was actually everything we already knew about SP but seeing some of the behind the scene moments was actually quite intriguing.

          She was and still is a nut. We can thank God everyday for President Obama and VP Joe.

  18. March 10, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    This movie was depressing! It was like watching Old Yeller! Lol!

  19. March 10, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    Schmidt tells McCain he’s sorry he suggested her. McCain says, “F it”.

  20. 58 MTmarilyn (@mtmarilyn2)
    March 10, 2012 at 10:52 pm

    I am so glad I don’t have to watch Game Change. After reading here and twitter it’s about all I can handle. Living thru that horried time was enough. Watching again is way to painful.

    • March 10, 2012 at 10:55 pm

      They had a very dysfunctional campaign.
      They had not a clue, and they tried all the curvballs and knuckleballs they could muster.
      Amazing, how we only won by 7. That is why this election coming up will be closer, republicans already have 45% of the vote no matter what!

      • 60 57andFemale
        March 10, 2012 at 11:12 pm

        So terrifyingly true.

      • 61 sabreen60
        March 10, 2012 at 11:16 pm

        That 45% is not necessarily true. Republicans have pissed off a lot of women. So I wouldn’t give them any specific number at this point.

        • 62 JoJothecat
          March 11, 2012 at 12:26 am

          Randy Rhodes said PBO got 13% of ALL women vote…all women black, white, asian, etc. I bet this number goes way up too.

          • 63 anniebella
            March 11, 2012 at 5:30 am

            We can’t forget about those states with the Voter ID, we have to remind people to get their Voter ID. We can’t let the Republicans win by stealing this election.

      • March 10, 2012 at 11:29 pm

        If the GOP have 45% locked in no matter what, then 7% is actually quite good, given that it was an historic vote and people didn’t know what kind of President he would make. There was a lot of unwarranted fear. Now, people have nearly four years of evidence of what kind of man this President is, and should be able to get 55% of the vote unless the country really is just half-filled with a bunch of ignorant racists who care little for their own futures.

      • 65 Obama Grandmama
        March 11, 2012 at 12:53 am

        Add the voter suppression, the far Left that will not vote for PBO, the huge amounts of money and ads that will lie and distort the truth will make winning much harder even though PBO deserves to win more than anyone in recent history.

      • 66 nathkatun7
        March 11, 2012 at 3:11 am

        You speak TRUTH, Jovie! We cannot take for granted this election. Besides starting with “45%of the vote,” they will also have tons of money as a result of the Supreme Court’s “Citizens United” ruling. In this election the GOP’s Superpacs will probably raise and four times more money than they did in 2008. The only way to counter GOP money is for millions of us to contribute $5, $10, $25 or $50 to the OFA. Just imagine, if a million of us PBO supporters contributed $20 dollars a month to his campaign it would guarantee him $20 million dollars a month. None of which would come from special interests.

    • March 10, 2012 at 11:40 pm

      Yes, that is why I am not watching, but am here to get other’s reactions. I appreciate any and all of you who are watching. I have lived this for over 3 years. I just pray with all my heart that this movie makes a difference in how the press – the media now treats this person who has made hate an integral part of our politics.

  21. 68 Diane
    March 10, 2012 at 10:53 pm

    Okay. Thank you for the play by play on this movie everyone. I have laughed so hard at your wonderful comments and thoughts. There is no way this movie could have been as good as the descriptions all of you gave. What an entertaining night!

  22. 71 Tally
    March 10, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    Game Change is AWESOME.

    Not only does it show what an insane train wreck Palin is, but it shows just how bad Bush fucked up the country – you know, what so many people have complete amnesia over?

    • 72 57andFemale
      March 10, 2012 at 11:15 pm

      And how Repubs have total disdain for American women. Which they have put on steroids in 2012. But we have to work extra hard now. We can’t let them come close to winning.

  23. March 10, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    Now Palin telling them to load her speech in the teleprompter, she’s giving a concession speech. Schmidt yells at her, “You’re Not F-ing Speaking!” He tells her it’s not about her. He’s furious at her by the end, has lost all patience with her ego and narcissism. And then—–Palin makes one last plea to McCain to give her speech, she won’t let go. Didn’t work though. She is a pathetic creature.

  24. 78 defytheodds
    March 10, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    The way it sounds I’m surprised that Big Mack didn’t “F-Schmidt”

  25. 79 utaustinliberal
    March 10, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    So Nicole Wallace couldn’t bring herself to vote for Palin but she and the team were ok unleashing this race baiting hateful monster on us. There’s a special place in hell for McCain and his team.

    • 80 57andFemale
      March 10, 2012 at 11:01 pm

      Yup.

    • March 10, 2012 at 11:35 pm

      Indeed.

      When Nicole Wallace announced on one of these shows on Friday or Thursday this week that she couldn’t bring herself to vote for her own ticket, she looked proud of herself. She should be ashamed – as should they all.

    • 82 nathkatun7
      March 11, 2012 at 3:27 am

      I am sorry, but I just don’t believe her. To me, Nicole Wallace looked, and sounded, like a slick person who is trying to make sure that she doesn’t ruin her political reputation as political strategist. I doubt she would be saying this if John McCain had won the presidency.

  26. 83 utaustinliberal
    March 10, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    Folks, Steve Schmidt said Game Change was 100% real. Pause…think about it…..that’s the sound of your brain exploding. I’m glad this movie was released. It showed what a racist, hateful monster Palin was and is. If this movie isn’t an impetus to get people to run to the polls and vote #Obama2012, I don’t know what will. McCain should be smacked hard for the horror he unleashed on this nation.

    • 84 donna dem 4 obama
      March 10, 2012 at 11:15 pm

      It’s unbelievable that he was re-elected to his Senate seat. He jeopardized this Nation with that pick of SP and he just went right back to doing what he had been doing before running for President as if nothing even happened. SMH!

      • 85 L3
        March 10, 2012 at 11:20 pm

        No wonder he said in several interviews he had no plans to watch that movie. What an idiot. He’ll never live that decision down and now he has to re-live it all over again. Could not have happened to a nicer guy.

      • March 10, 2012 at 11:37 pm

        And squealing from the sidelines, like his judgement is sound.

      • 87 JoJothecat
        March 11, 2012 at 12:32 am

        donna dem, we’re talking Arizona here…why wouldn’t McInsane be re-elected? They (the GOP) have done over the deep end (sorry desertflower and other obamabot arizonians if I offend) and it is a Red State.

  27. 88 Tally
    March 10, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    I’m about an hour behind the live east coast broadcast – but that scene where Nicole is trying to help her on the economic collapse, and Sarah won’t pay attention to her because she’s too busy TEXTING, then digging through her GIANT Louis Vutton bag……..

    The bigger question is this: Once they KNEW what a train wreck Sarah was, why on earth didn’t they admit their mistake and FIRE HER and ask someone else???

    We all know the answer – because the GOP have embraced sheer idiocy, irrational, and insane – exactly the opposite of Barack OBama – Intellegent and Calm.

    But I love that they keep going down that road.

    Has anyone noticed the big story the media ISN’T talking about on all these current primaries? It doesn’t matter right now who is winning them – because NO ONE IS VOTING. The turn out numbers are historically LOW.

    Anyway – everyone who has HBO, MUST WATCH GAME CHANGE – it will make you SMILE.

    • March 10, 2012 at 11:22 pm

      Then, she would have become the Republican version of Sen. Tom Eagleton, the guy Senator George McGovern chose for his first VP nominee before Nixon’s people ran how he was treated with electroshock therapy. He was replaced with Sargent Shriver.

      • March 11, 2012 at 6:12 am

        Not only are they NOT talking about the big story of these primaries, but Jake Tapper goes on national network and LIES about it saying “Republicans are enthusiastic about voting this November, while Democrats are deflated”. Gosh, I just can’t get over that lying jerk, what a tool!

    • 91 miss pat
      March 11, 2012 at 6:59 am

      I am going to watch it again and again I hope HBO keeps it on until November. Palin is a dizzy broad in this movie; dunce, unwilling to learn, clueless and mentally unstable. She wrote on flashcards and got confused when they were’nt in order. Why didn’t they do a better job of screening her? Had to get a woman to counteract the Black Greek God (lol). Yes, she called the President that in a sarcasic manner.

  28. 92 donna dem 4 obama
    March 10, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    That “hatred” that exists to this day by the right wing extremist of the Republican Party was fueled by Sarah Palin of Alaska in 2008. She sold that hatred to the crazies of that party. John McCain let that genie out of the bottle and it can never be reversed.

    I thought this was was actually a very good Movie.

    Steve Schmidt – Shame on You!
    Nicole Wallace – Shame on You!
    John McCain – Shame on You!

  29. 96 hopefruit2
    March 10, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    HA!

    • 97 Tally
      March 10, 2012 at 11:15 pm

      Love that HP2!!!

      • 98 hopefruit2
        March 10, 2012 at 11:23 pm

        Thanks Tally 🙂

      • March 10, 2012 at 11:43 pm

        I could have sworn that this young man has been singing the praises of Buddy Roemer on twitter. If he’s thanking Jesus for (President) Barack Obama, then this movie must have reminded people just how dire the situation was when President Obama signed up to take charge of the Titanic.

        • 100 L3
          March 11, 2012 at 12:12 am

          In many ways this movie can also serve as a campaign video for PBO and against the Repub Party. Their VP pick will get the vetting of their life this time around. Instead of putting up a nominee they should dissolve that Party and be forced to roam in the wilderness for the next 40 years.

          • 101 lisalovesobama
            March 11, 2012 at 9:08 am

            They will. I’ve always said that this hateful intransigence was their last stand. Their death rattle if you will. Hopefully this election is the roundhouse kick to the gut they need to completely loose their minds and break their will. Then I hope they really think about themselves and re-form their party and try to be the party of Lincoln and other decent repug presidents.

      • 102 geeja
        March 11, 2012 at 12:55 am

        This is the best one yet! Thanks for the laugh!

      • 103 lmrj
        March 11, 2012 at 3:50 am

        HAHAHA!!! Actually DID LOL!!!

  30. 104 utaustinliberal
    March 10, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    McCain says “Tell her she’s not fucking speaking” when Caribou Barbie wanted to give a VP concession speech. Hahahaha.

    • 105 donna dem 4 obama
      March 10, 2012 at 11:13 pm

      And she was insistent that she was going to give that speech even after Steve told her she was not. She is completely full of herself.

  31. 106 defytheodds
    March 10, 2012 at 11:15 pm

  32. 107 vitaminlover
    March 10, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    Yes We Can! Yes We Will! OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!!!! 4 More Years!!!!

  33. 108 globalcitizenlinda
    March 10, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    after being subjected to the punishment of reviewing the palin crap, I decided I needed to give myself a treat and I therefore went to YouTube and watched the ABC video of President and Mrs Obama’s Inaguration dance at the neighbohood ball. I can say that I am now a very happy camper at TODville

  34. March 10, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    The hashtag #gamechange on twitter is all the way live tonight. It is wild on there.

    • 111 isonprize
      March 10, 2012 at 11:49 pm

      You ain’t lying. Some of the stuff is HILARIOUS ( I don’t know how to bring over the original tweet, but this one really did make me laugh out loud!

      ~~~~~~~~~~~

      KimJongNumberUn ‏ @KimJongNumberUn

      If North Koreans could see #GameChange they’d feel better about the way I was picked.

  35. March 10, 2012 at 11:27 pm

    Sympathy wouldn’t been had if their was no attempt to prep her for the interviews and such. Nicole Wallace attempted to do so and if the movie is to be believed Palin DID NOT even try to prep.

    Sympathy was lost when she accepted the invite to be on the ticket. People who don’t know their limitations are bound to fail and guess what Palin obviously thought more of her ability than anyone else seem to.

    Sympathy would have been had except I begin to think what would have happened if Obama had lost. Sarah Palin with nuclear codes…think about that.

    Personally as a woman myself, I was insulted by how easy it was for Sarah Palin to get away with so much ignorance cause she was “easy on the eyes”. Let’s be kind a clear why they picked her. Wasn’t Kay Bailey Hutchinson a possible contenders since it was becoming obvious that they were gonna pick a woman. They may have actually won with Kay Bailey

    • 114 Cathy from MN
      March 10, 2012 at 11:30 pm

      It does seem that Kay Bailey Hutchinson was the obvious choice, doesn’t it? I thought the same at the time and just shook my head in disgust as a woman. I don’t agree with her politics, but I do respect her hard work and accomplishments. I have to believe she was sorely disappointed to see the Sarah Palin pick…

      • March 10, 2012 at 11:35 pm

        Yeah, she seemed dumbfounded even when she spoke about her.

        • 116 Cathy from MN
          March 11, 2012 at 8:59 am

          I han’t remembered that interview. Just another display that she should have been the pick; professional even then…

      • 117 isonprize
        March 10, 2012 at 11:59 pm

        I noticed that thru out the 2008 campaign, no Republican women spoke up for the half-term quitter grifter. KBH, Libby Dole, even Condi Rice.

        After watching the KBH clip, below it is amazing to me that even with KBH mentioning that she didn’t know much about the half-term quitter grifter, LOOK HOW QUICK SHE WAS TO SAY THAT SHE “HAD A GREAT RECORD” “WAS AN UP AND COMER”!!!

        NOTE TO DEMOCRATS!!! SEE?? THIS is how you support your party’s nominee!!

        Just sayin’….

    • March 11, 2012 at 3:07 am

      The same could be said about the four contenders currently vying for the GOP nomination. One would think, after seeing the disaster created by Bush & Co, that a supremely unqualified person would hesitate for a minute before seeking the most important and most powerful office in the entire world. One would think that they’d look themselves in the mirror and ask whether they really want to follow in the footsteps of George W Bush, and be known for having brought down the global economy, ignored warnings that would have saved lives, and sent thousands of American soldiers to their unnecessary deaths in an illegal war. It’s the height of arrogance that they continue to pursue the presidency, even knowing how inadequate they are to the job.

  36. March 10, 2012 at 11:28 pm

    Ok, this should have been the ending of Game Change right here.

    • 120 Cathy from MN
      March 10, 2012 at 11:32 pm

      Since I couldn’t bring myself to watch it, was there anything surprising in the telling of the end of the movie? Those that previewed it said we’d be surprised, but I found it hard to believe there would be anything surprising — we all know how it ended!

    • 127 57andFemale
      March 11, 2012 at 12:06 am

      The whimpering end of the McCain campaign was a far more devastating image.

    • March 11, 2012 at 3:01 am

      Thanks for this video – such an antidote to the nonsense of John McCain and Sarah Palin. You forget sometimes that President Obama was presidential before he was ever President. He’s just simply awesome.

  37. 129 globalcitizenlinda
    March 10, 2012 at 11:38 pm

    SNL, opening skit was funny – all the “new” sponsors that rush limbaugh “has” are hilarious!!!

  38. 131 utaustinliberal
    March 10, 2012 at 11:55 pm

    I think one of the best quotes from Game Change was this. “When you lose the moral ground to Dick Cheney, it’s time to rethink your entire life.”

  39. 134 isonprize
    March 11, 2012 at 12:05 am

    twitterati – #GameChange could also have been titled Birth of the Tea Party \\Which makes Santorum the after-birth. Explains a lot.

    • 135 57andFemale
      March 11, 2012 at 12:09 am

      That’s it exactly. Sarah Paling is what put the wind in the tea party’s sails, something for which McCain shows no remorse. The effing traitor.

      • 136 57andFemale
        March 11, 2012 at 12:10 am

        This damn keyboard! Stop telling me what word you think I mean!

      • 138 sabreen60
        March 11, 2012 at 1:20 am

        McCain talked about his grandfather dropping dead at the end of the war and his father, in essence, feeling useless after the Navy. McCain says he “can’t quit”. If true, this may explain his willingness to make the hard right turn to get re-elected to his Senate seat. He’s afraid he would end up like his grandfather and father. This is really sad in that he’s saying he has no life outside of politics.

        • 139 vcprezofan2
          March 11, 2012 at 9:57 am

          ‘This is really sad in that he’s saying he has no life outside of politics.’

          This would be the first time he’s truthful since I started paying attention to him, Sabreen. The fact McCain HAS NO LIFE outside of politics is absolutely true IMO. All the evidence points to it. Cast back in your mind to him on stage with his ‘young, lovely, rich’ wife – did you see any life between them? Really? How often do you see them together? Have you seen or heard of any life between him and his son? As far as I heard his son spent some time in the military yet I haven’t seen him anywhere supporting his military hero father. Even his TV pundit daughter didn’t show much life existed between them when he was campaigning. Admittedly there seemed to be a smidgen, and from time to time she does throw in a mention of him that doesn’t seem all cold, but they hardly seem really close. In my prejudiced view she mentions him to make herself more relevant, and to accomplish this she chooses not to disparage him or his choices. Why do you think McCain’s always running to the Middle East when Congress is on a break instead of going home to spend time with family?

  40. March 11, 2012 at 12:09 am

    TALLY!!! EDSON BUDDLE SCORES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  41. March 11, 2012 at 12:21 am

    Just catching up on the live blogging of “Game Change.” Thanks y’all, for the blow by blow. I don’t have HBO, so I’ll have to see it some other way. All I can say is that I knew from the first time Palin opened her mouth that 1) she was a total and complete fundigelical nutjob; and 2) she would never be elected VP.

    McCain has done a lot to tarnish his legacy — most of all, putting the Wasilla Zilla on the ticket.

    I’ve NEVER been impressed by Steve Schmidt’s “impartial republican” act — NEVER thought he was brilliant or insightful. Just another joker that keeps failing upward. If what I read is true, he should be too ashamed to show his face, but I’m sure he’ll be right back on MSNBC, where all the cast-off republicans find a home.

    And the people of Alaska should be mortified that they ever elected that obviously unqualified, foolish, hate-filled, narcissistic, greedy woman in the first place. Yes, I blame them — also, too!

  42. March 11, 2012 at 12:33 am

    Palate cleanse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXtJhLUOFXE The Road We’ve Traveled. Best. Trailer. Ever.

  43. 147 vcprezofan2
    March 11, 2012 at 12:38 am

    Back at last, and since sleep isn’t knocking too heavily thought I’d check on you guys! Anything I should know right away? 😆

  44. March 11, 2012 at 12:44 am

    WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama’s re-election campaign is beginning an intensified effort this week to build support among women, using the debate over the new health care law to amplify an appeal that already appears to be benefiting from partisan clashes over birth control and abortion.
    On Monday, mailings will go out to 1 million women in more than a dozen battleground states in three separate versions for mothers, young women and older women, Democratic Party officials said.
    An effort called “Nurses for Obama” will begin Wednesday, with nurses nationwide enlisted to be advocates for the health care law in their communities. And a new website will include links to video testimonials about the health care overhaul signed by Obama in 2010, including from a former critic who subsequently was diagnosed with breast cancer.

    http://www.mercurynews.com/presidentelect/ci_20147769

    • 149 yardarm756
      March 11, 2012 at 3:01 am

      Got my mail in for ballot for the Chicago county primaries. According to the board, gop mail ins are up 77%. We can take nothing for granted. FOCUS..

  45. 150 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
    March 11, 2012 at 12:51 am

    #PRESSON

  46. 154 LDS
    March 11, 2012 at 1:14 am

    My God, what a time, what a time!
    Thank you everyone for the play-by-play. I do not have the stomach to watch anything about that Palin woman. I thought that after RL republican women would speak out in support for Ms. Fluke. I guess that was asking too much. But from what I have read tonight, if this movie will not move them to see how evil, controlling and vile their men are and the war against women from their own party is real. Then, I have nothing else to say.

    They have no shame. Please let this woman go away and stay. Maybe after this movie the rest of America will wake up and vote this November as if their life depends on it……….really, it does……..Really!
    Goodnight everyone. Thank you, Chips.
    I need a dose of Let’s Stay Together so I will not have nightmares of that crazy lady….

  47. 155 susanne
    March 11, 2012 at 3:13 am

    aloha my tod ohana
    my heart is breaking. a dear teacher and friend died last night, as we were preparing for the funeral of a beautiful young mother in our community. i will be absent from here for a while, but know you’re supporting our president, and all will be well. please, if you are so moved, include us in your prayers. mahalo.

    • 156 lmrj
      March 11, 2012 at 3:47 am

      Sorry for your loss Susanne. Take care.

    • 157 Dudette
      March 11, 2012 at 6:35 am

      Sincere condolences Susanne. You and your friend’s family are in my prayers.

    • 158 Cathy from MN
      March 11, 2012 at 8:49 am

      Our thoughts are with you, Susanne. I am sure her family will feel your caring support.

    • 159 vcprezofan2
      March 11, 2012 at 10:07 am

      Aloha, Susanne! Know that some of us will be thinking of you, your friend’s family and the young mother’s family over the next days, and each time we remember all of you, we will send our prayerful support. Take good care of each other during this rough time. VC

    • March 11, 2012 at 10:46 am

      so sorry susanne – take care

    • 161 Betsy
      March 11, 2012 at 12:55 pm

      So sorry for your loss; I’m going through it too as my father died last Friday. I am leaving for Canada tomorrow and he will be buried on Wednesday. It will be a rough week. I will be thinking of you and praying at this very sad time.

    • 162 Pamela
      March 11, 2012 at 3:46 pm

      Votives burning for many who need to be surrounded with Light and Love today. Blessings, susanne.

  48. 163 lmrj
    March 11, 2012 at 3:45 am

  49. 164 Dudette
    March 11, 2012 at 6:45 am

    Haven’t had a chance to catch up with all the recent posts yet. I’m dying to hear the verdict on Game Change. It’s been hard to watch the trailer and her most recent wackadoodle word salad, because that woman repulses me so. Don’t know how y’all sat through two hours of even pretend-Sarah voluntarily.

    —–
    Anyway, I ran across Frank Scheffer’s latest post — a must read! Here a generous snip…

    The Vatican v. President Obama and the American People
    http://frank-schaeffer.blogspot.com/

    When the Republican Party is trounced in November 2012 all Americans should send thank you notes to the Vatican. The American bishops are lending their tattered “moral authority” to the Republican Party. With friends like these the Republicans need no enemies.

    According to the New York Times:

    Pope Benedict XVI waded into the American culture wars on Friday, urging visiting American bishops to beef up their teaching about the evils of premarital sex and cohabitation, and denouncing what he called the “powerful” gay marriage lobby in America. Benedict said there was an urgent need for American Catholics to discover the value of chastity, an essential element of Christian teaching that he said had been subject to unjust “ridicule.” The pope also told the bishops not to back down in the face of “powerful political and cultural currents seeking to alter the legal definition of marriage.”

    With the “stand” that the Pope and the American bishops are taking in their thinly veiled anti-President Obama, pro-Republican Party campaign in full swing — and being parroted by Santorum and Gingrich — the Republicans are lurching even farther rightward.

    And now a far right “religious liberty” group the Becket Fund led by a conservative William P. Mumma, a Wall Street banker who runs the New York trading desk for Mitsubishi UFJ Securities USA, is working closely with the Roman Catholic bishops to suethe government in order to force women to forgo contraception if they happen to work for Catholic run corporations.

    Bluntly put, between this Becket Fund suit, the Pope weighing in and the American bishops anti-Obama activity ramping up to try and defeat him in 2012 the Roman Catholic hierarchic leaders seem anxious to declare holy war on the Democratic Party.

    This will backfire, not least because the pope and bishops and a far right Wall Street champion of the 1% activist like Mumma (who hates the President because he wants to regulate Wall Street) don’t even speak for most Roman Catholics let alone most Americans. So the Koch brothers can spend 100 million or a 100 billion for that matter to buy the election for big oil and Wall Street, but they might as well burn their Supreme Court-lubricated Super Pac cash… [more in the article]

    • 165 Ceb
      March 11, 2012 at 7:16 am

      This is why we have a separation of church and state. The pope also needs to stay out of the affairs of other nations. He should spend more time repenting for the abuses that they hid and cleaning up his own immoral house.
      We refuse to be dragged back to the bad old days.

    • 168 57andFemale
      March 11, 2012 at 9:37 am

      the bishops can ‘tell’ their parishioners what to do (although my Catholic friends beg to differ) but they CANNOT tell the government what policies to enact. I know we’re very far from taking away tax exempt status, but this line has been crossed egregiously. Cardinal George’s lying letter of several weeks back crossed a legal line. He got away with it, as the Church has for the last generation.

      Anyone can follow their conscience and have their children any way they see fit. No one forces anyone to have an abortion (despite the insane rhetoric) and certainly no one is forced to take birth control. That is where the the power of the church stops. there is NO religious freedom if some employer can dictate to me what health care I can receive.

      This is far over the line. But in a political climate where a Supreme Court Justice can LIE and say that Bush v. Gore ‘wasn’t even close’ at ‘7-2’ (!) we have no place to keep our country from falling into the abyss other than the voting booth. 40% of Americans are hopeless. We have to do whatever we can to get the other 60% to the polls.

    • 170 lisalovesobama
      March 11, 2012 at 9:16 am

      They’ll still probably vote GoPoop.

    • March 11, 2012 at 9:21 am

      The GOP still does not know what it’s unleashed. A lot of very green tea party people got elected to our state legislatures and in a fit of insanity, people in a lot of states elected far, far right Republican governors. We’ve seen months and months of Republican candidates shamefully pandering to this extremist right and now the whole sorry far right agenda is being laid bare. Instead of cleverly disguising their misogyny and racism as Repubs in the past have done, these guys have laid it out for all to see. And what we see is not in any way consistent with the opinions of the vast majority of Americans and most especially not with the majority of women. Having the Republicans expose themselves this way is the best thing that could happen to the US. People have been led astray by the masks and lies the GOP has spread for many decades. And now the lies are being seen for what they are.

    • 173 57andFemale
      March 11, 2012 at 9:31 am

      From the article:

      “We all agreed that this seemed like a throwback to 40 years ago,” said Ms. Russell, 57, a retired teacher from Iowa City who describes herself as an evangelical Christian and “old school” Republican of the moderate mold.

      Until the baby shower, just two weeks ago, she had favored Mitt Romney for president.

      Not anymore. She said she might vote for President Obama now. “I didn’t realize I had a strong viewpoint on this until these conversations,” Ms. Russell said. As for the Republican presidential candidates, she added: “If they’re going to decide on women’s reproductive issues, I’m not going to vote for any of them. Women’s reproduction is our own business.”

    • 174 vcprezofan2
      March 11, 2012 at 10:27 am

      The fact these women are still saying, they ‘may’ vote for Obama makes me shake my head. I’m sorry, but that’s blind ignorance and partisanship! Given all that has already been revealed about the Republican party and its candidates, and given all that Republicans have done since their 2010 victories, it boggles my mind that sensible Americans anywhere in the country, and certainly not women, would still be hesitant at this point about who best represents their interests. It’s views like this that make me think sometimes ‘let them get what they ask for’, forgetting for a moment that those who didn’t ask for it would also be penalized. She ‘MAY’ vote for Obama? One may stay home? Ignorant, uninformed, unthinking partisan! Selfish and blind too! No insight! There! I feel a little better.

    • March 11, 2012 at 11:01 am

      this is great. I read with relief what that one lady said who hadn’t even realized what her position on women’s health was until she started to have the conversation and realized that these yahoo’s that are the Republican party noms are throwbacks to 40 years ago! She said she was for Romney but not anymore – she is considering PBO. And that’s all it takes. Once you get that veil taken off your eyes and really start looking PBO is the clear choice and right choice.

  50. 177 Don
    March 11, 2012 at 9:02 am

    I don’t think that David Plouffe or David Axelrod could have come up with a better campaign ad than “Game Change” even if they tried.

  51. 178 desertflower
    March 11, 2012 at 9:12 am

    http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/11/10639152-report-us-soldier-kills-up-to-16-afghan-civilians

    OMG> NOT GOOD. He’s lost his mind and we will all pay a heavy price. Can’t get out of this war fast enough.

    • 179 utaustinliberal
      March 11, 2012 at 9:16 am

      I saw that on the news this morning. It’s not good. It’s not good at all. After the Koran burning, the retaliatory killing of 7 American soldiers, and now this. Things are tense for sure.

    • 180 lisalovesobama
      March 11, 2012 at 9:18 am

      Shit. WTF?!

    • 181 Don
      March 11, 2012 at 9:19 am

      I was thinking the same thing, desertflower. I could imagine someone waking President Obama up in the middle of the night and telling him this news, I’m starting to wonder does he ever get to sleep through the night without being roused out of bed with bad news.

      • 182 desertflower
        March 11, 2012 at 9:34 am

        No, this is not good. After the Quran burning incident, that still has the people angry, and now this? This soldier had obvious mental combat stress related issues here, and just snapped…as true as that may be, it won’t defuse the new anger that will arise from this horrible incident.My heart goes out to those Afghan people, and to the troops and the soldier that did this.The idiots that have gotten us into a war that has lasted so long and taken an unimaginable toll. It’s easy to start a war, not so easy to get out. Both messes were left to this President to clean up and take care of.FU Bush! FU!

        That 3am call has been answered more than once by this President. The weight on his shoulders is immense. One MORE reason to make sure that he is given 4 more years….who knows what wars (Iran, anyone?) will be started if PBO is not elected again. I pray for him, and wish for a clear head and good guidance.Thank goodness that he is the one answering this call.

    • 183 hopefruit2
      March 11, 2012 at 9:43 am

      This is SABOTAGE. Plain and simple. That soldier must be a Republican who wants to make things difficult for the administration.

      • 184 desertflower
        March 11, 2012 at 9:48 am

        hf….who knows, but I think that’s a reach. I understand where you’re coming from, but we know nothing about this soldier.Imagine if he has been there multiple times, and just had enough. Gone off the deep end seems to be a more realistic thought about what happened here. I can’t imagine what they all go through. The untold ravages of war that will be felt by these men long after this mess is over.

        • 185 hopefruit2
          March 11, 2012 at 9:52 am

          That’s true df. I agree with it is a reach but it’s a possibility. After the Koran burning the Republicans (including the current candidates) were quick with their talking points about PBO’s apologizing. It’s like they were prepped for this event and came armed with their script. Let’s see how they respond to this issue.

          • 186 desertflower
            March 11, 2012 at 9:59 am

            The RW naturally looks for ANYTHING to make this President look bad. The mental collapse of this soldier will just fuel the fire. Funny, they always talk so big on responsibility, yet flee that anytime it ACTUALLY needs to happen.Like I said, they had no problem getting us IN to this mess, but now they want to pretend that anything that happens with regards to the war is all PBO’s fault. They always jump in with both feet, yet never want to be held accountable for their wrongdoings in anything. This is just another example. The list is long.

            • 187 yardarm756
              March 11, 2012 at 11:17 am

              My two cents is that the politicians are gonna do what they do, but from my experience there are no political partys in combat. When bullets are flying you’ll hunker down with a person you had a fight with the week before. You can rest assured something set the soldier off and we’ll never know ’cause we weren’t there.

              • 188 hopefruit2
                March 11, 2012 at 11:38 am

                And when bullets aren’t flying some soldiers have resorted to their partisian stuff as noted in this example here:

                http://newsone.com/nation/associatedpress3/marines-look-into-tea-party-soldier-for-disobey-obama-facebook-post/

              • 189 prettyfoot58
                March 11, 2012 at 1:35 pm

                i feel you on this yardarm sir…

                we may never know….let me ask you…if this person had become somewhat disturbed …who would have known about it…how could he have gotten off the base undetected ….does this show a lack of discipline among the ranks there…

                as you say we may never know….but what are your thoughts…

                • 190 yardarm756
                  March 11, 2012 at 1:54 pm

                  I can’t begin to tell you what makes a person ‘snap’. There is a point in all of us that I call the ‘fuck it’ point. That means everything that is not helpfull is perceived as a threat. You feel trapped and helpless and all you have is the weapon in your hand. You do stupid things. I’ve seen a person stand up in the middle of artillery explosions shaking his fist and screaming at the top of his ‘fuck you” and not get hit. He was never quite the same after that and neither was I for seeing it…..I do believe there is a God.

      • 192 Bill
        March 11, 2012 at 9:52 am

        I doubt it. Chances are the soldier lost his mind.

  52. 197 desertflower
    March 11, 2012 at 9:25 am

    THIS! http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/10/opinion/fonda-morgan-steinem-limbaugh/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

    If Clear Channel won’t clean up its airways, then surely it’s time for the public to ask the FCC a basic question: Are the stations carrying Limbaugh’s show in fact using their licenses “in the public interest?”
    Spectrum is a scarce government resource. Radio broadcasters are obligated to act in the public interest and serve their respective communities of license. In keeping with this obligation, individual radio listeners may complain to the FCC that Limbaugh’s radio station (and those syndicating his show) are not acting in the public interest or serving their respective communities of license by permitting such dehumanizing speech.
    The FCC takes such complaints into consideration when stations file for license renewal. For local listeners near a station that carries Limbaugh’s show, there is plenty of evidence to bring to the FCC that their station isn’t carrying out its public interest obligation. Complaints can be registered under the broadcast category of the FCC website: http://www.fcc.gov/complaints

  53. March 11, 2012 at 9:54 am

    You know, Micole Wallace had 2 important jobs. The first was w Vommunications director for GW, where she was in charge of Scott McCleland. That was a FAIL.
    Then, she was supposed to shape Sawah, in the 08 Campaign. Another huge Fail.
    So, basically, she is a failure at her job of communicating, and yet the MSM asks her questions, as if she is some sort of authority.
    It’s crazy, I tell ya, just crazy!!!

    • 200 hopefruit2
      March 11, 2012 at 9:58 am

      The people who keep yapping about “Affirmative Action” need to look at these glaring examples everyday in our MSM.

    • 201 Bill
      March 11, 2012 at 9:59 am

      I read somewhere Nicolle Wallace was paid $100,000 a month during the campaign. That is really crazy. There are big bucks in the campaign world.

      • March 11, 2012 at 10:16 am

        I would not pay her 100 bucks to be my spokesperson.
        She is Bad. And judging by her record, how is it that she can be on msnbc or abc at a whim, as an expert pundit?

    • 203 vcprezofan2
      March 11, 2012 at 10:49 am

      But, Jovie, with the help of the MSM, Wallace is not a failure at excusing her actions by drawing comparisons with Democrats. She does it quite eloquently on the occasions I’ve seen her. She does this often enough she will succeed in poisoning the water some more for democrats and be readily visible for a new republican communicating job as soon as one becomes available. This is one time I will say democrats should study how repubs train communicators like Wallace and Schmidt who easily deflect criticisms of THEIR leaders by quickly turning the attention to their opponents in their answers.

  54. 204 Linda
    March 11, 2012 at 9:59 am

    Good Morning… Did I miss this ? It is two days old….

  55. 207 desertflower
    March 11, 2012 at 10:08 am

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/11/us/politics/centrist-women-tell-of-disenchantment-with-gop.html?_r=2&hp

    As baby showers go, the party Mary Russell attended to celebrate her niece’s first child was sweet, with about a dozen women offering congratulations over ice cream and cake.

    But somewhere between the baby name game and the gifts, what had been light conversation took a sharp turn toward the personal and political — specifically, the battle over access to birth control and other women’s health issues that have sprung to life on the Republican campaign trail in recent weeks.

    “We all agreed that this seemed like a throwback to 40 years ago,” said Ms. Russell, 57, a retired teacher from Iowa City who describes herself as an evangelical Christian and “old school” Republican of the moderate mold.

    Until the baby shower, just two weeks ago, she had favored Mitt Romney for president.

    Not anymore. She said she might vote for President Obama now. “I didn’t realize I had a strong viewpoint on this until these conversations,” Ms. Russell said. As for the Republican presidential candidates, she added: “If they’re going to decide on women’s reproductive issues, I’m not going to vote for any of them. Women’s reproduction is our own business.”

  56. 208 desertflower
    March 11, 2012 at 10:11 am

    There are two big reasons for [Obama’s] improvement, and these are things we’re seeing most places right now:
    -The Democratic base is unifying around him. In October he was at 75/17 with his party’s voters, now it’s 86/10. The more Democratic voters see the Republican candidate field, the more they forgive Obama for not being completely perfect and get behind him.

    -Obama’s flipped independents from giving him negative reviews (46/49) to positive ones (54/38).

    http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/03/obama-standing-much-improved-in-maine.html

    This is from Maine, but they’re finding this is universal for all states.

    • 209 hopefruit2
      March 11, 2012 at 10:17 am

      But, but Jake Tapper said that this year, GOP enthusiasm is great while the DEMS are deflated and not solidly behind PBO.

      • 210 desertflower
        March 11, 2012 at 10:21 am

        Tapper is a tool.We know who butters his bread.

      • 212 vcprezofan2
        March 11, 2012 at 11:04 am

        Seriously, I hope Tapper and his cronies continue chasing their tails in this regard, putting out delusional messages, while the rest of the country gets in the correct mind set for November. If they are busy lying, while sharing their preferred message, then they hopefully won’t have the time to notice what is really happening. So yes, Tapper, it’s sad that Dems enthusiasm is deflated. Keep mourning their misfortune and we’ll get back to you November 7th with an update.

        • 213 hopefruit2
          March 11, 2012 at 11:25 am

          You speak for us vcprez! I can’t wait to check on their Twitter feed on Nov 7th so see what their reaction will be…

  57. March 11, 2012 at 10:22 am

    My heart is heavy over the killings and renewed tensions in Afghanistan. President Obama must deal with countless urgencies day in and day out.

  58. 222 hopefruit2
    March 11, 2012 at 10:23 am

    LOL!

    HEADLINE: Santorum Claims Romney Secretly Rigged GOP Primaries In His Favor

    // Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum is leveling the bombshell claim that Mitt Romney secretly manipulated the GOP primary process in his favor. Appearing on NBC’s Meet The Press on Sunday morning, Santorum claims that “Governor Romney’s been doing this for four years and he worked very hard to make sure that states moved up that were very advantageous to him.” Santorum goes on to note that he may make an appeal to Republican “superdelegates” to sway the nomination back towards him. Santorum points out that while the Massachusetts millionaire has “outspent [him] about 10 to one,” Romney “can’t close the deal.” //

    http://www.nationalconfidential.com/20120311/santorum-claims-romney-secretly-rigged-gop-primaries-in-his-favor/

  59. 223 desertflower
    March 11, 2012 at 10:31 am

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/08/2683535/mormon-church-restricts-access.html#storylink=cpy

    SALT LAKE CITY — Mormon leaders have put up a virtual firewall in their massive genealogical database to block out anyone who attempts to access the names of hundreds of thousands of Holocaust victims the church has agreed not to posthumously baptize.

    /snip/

    But critics say it merely serves to block anyone from monitoring whether the posthumous baptisms continue.

    “By not allowing public access to the records, it creates the illusion they have something to hide,” said Jewish genealogist Gary Mokotoff, who was involved in negotiations with the church over ending the practice for the past two decades.

    Mormons believe the baptism ritual allows deceased people a way to the afterlife – if they choose to accept it.

    But the practice offends members of many other religions, especially Jews, who have expressed outrage at attempts to alter the religion of Holocaust victims because they were killed based on their beliefs.

    In the 1990s, after negotiations with Jewish leaders, the church agreed to end to the practice, but revelations by an ex-Mormon researcher have shown it continues.

    Sorry, But these people seem to push their religious beliefs on everyone, it would seem.They said they stopped this practice years ago…yet it still continues. They lied? How holy of them.

  60. March 11, 2012 at 10:39 am

    If thIngs keep happening in Afghanistan, the way they are, expect a policy change in May NATO talks.

  61. 226 globalcitizenlinda
    March 11, 2012 at 10:39 am

    tougher days are ahead for President Obama and all of us as the reports of the US soldier killing civillians in Afghanistan spreads. what in the world is going on and what are we going to do about it?

    • March 11, 2012 at 10:47 am

      That is the question I keep asking. As we engage in talks with the opposition and are nearing de-escalation, is there something going on there that is contributing to these events?

      • 228 donna dem 4 obama
        March 11, 2012 at 11:15 am

        These “outrageous events” are happening too frequently for me. I’m starting to put on my conspiracy hat. It just feels like someone is trying to undermine our military involvement there. Something just doesn’t seem right to me.

        • 229 hopefruit2
          March 11, 2012 at 11:23 am

          That is the same question that keeps popping up in my head. And yes, I may sound paranoid when I talk of sabotage, but the timing of these incidents is raising a few flags for me. I am open to all possibilities, and as others have noted, this may be simply the case of a solider having a mental breakdown, but I put nothing past the desperate GOP (and that include some Libertarian GOP members as well) and the complicit media in this election year.

          I notice that the immediate reaction of many of us upon hearing news like this is to say that the troops need to get out ASAP. But a recent poll showed that the majority of Afghans did NOT support the troops leaving. 75% of those Afghans polled felt that their own forces were not yet properly trained and still needed military assistance of US/NATO forces in Afghanistan. In fact, the majority of Afghans pretty much seemed in agreement with the timeline put forth by the Obama administration, i.e., that the Afghan police force will be fully ready by 2014.
          http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/10068675

          However, that was before the Koran burning. I would love to see a current post koran burning and this incident.

        • March 11, 2012 at 11:27 am

          There is something that doesn’t feel right about this, that’s for sure. Not sure what to make of it and perhaps we’ll never know any of the information in the intelligence reports, but something is afoot. We are headed for a drawdown very soon so none of this seems to fit the bigger picture. The killings took place in Kandahar. The koran burning took place at the Bagram base. Two different regions.

  62. 231 Linda
    March 11, 2012 at 10:40 am

    Just for a nice Sunny Sunday Morning laugh….Here is a comment on Paymelin’s Facebook page.

    Here’s a classic SP follower……….I

    Marissa Mahon

    Because they are so jealous from her also they afraid from her rule because she’s not playing or don’t take cratf to anyone and I love that personally she is true leader to stand up for America …it happen she been so victim to all this bully’s ..gladly she never give up

    • 232 Marlz (@marjgra)
      March 11, 2012 at 10:47 am

      LOL!!

      Typical Palin supporter! Wonder how long she took to configure that sentence and type it! Sentence is all rolled into one, just like her master!

    • 233 Bill
      March 11, 2012 at 10:52 am

      There are rumors the half term governor comments about herself on Facebok under fake names.

    • 236 donna dem 4 obama
      March 11, 2012 at 11:12 am

      Wow know wonder they love her. They speak HER language. 🙂

    • March 11, 2012 at 12:04 pm

      Wow…English as a second language.

    • 238 miss pat
      March 11, 2012 at 10:17 pm

      This word salad was written by SP herself. Look at the name, sound it out. Fiction, made up. What a moron. Maroon were good people, hate when moron is changed into maroon. Maroon were fighters, fought off the British by throwing stones at them from the hills in Jamaica. SP is a moron.

  63. March 11, 2012 at 10:52 am

    Chips! Chips! Where are you? I’ve been clicking back and forth between my two browsers for over an hour now, trying to catch you in the act of posting the new thread. WHERE are you? I can’t keep this up much longer even if only from the point of view that I’m hungry – haven’t made breakfast yet!

    • 240 donna dem 4 obama
      March 11, 2012 at 11:10 am

      Ha! Go eat your breakfast VC. Chips told us that sometimes she works on the weekends and it can be her busy time. I think you might want to get some nourishment for the long day ahead 😉

    • March 11, 2012 at 11:10 am

      ha VC you crack me up! 😀 K. guys i gotta go help my sister move furniture around. See you later. THANKYOU TOD for the play by play on ‘Game Change’ !

    • 242 vcprezofan2
      March 11, 2012 at 11:16 am

      Seems I have to take your advice, DD4O, because my stomach is rumbling fiercely, and hunger does trigger a migraine in me. I just know Chips is going to sneak in when I’m gone (Grrr!) but I can’t hold out much longer.

      Be careful with the moving a4A. Make sure you don’t strain anything. 😉

    • 243 57andFemale
      March 11, 2012 at 11:33 am

      Aw, let her sleep in. go have a nice, Sunday morning breakfast.

      • 244 hopefruit2
        March 11, 2012 at 11:41 am

        I hope her spirits are not down because of the Afghanistan killing incident – it’s just so depressing what happened. I know she has been very concerned about the US occupation in Afghanistan. I hope she’s just sleeping in on a Sunday like you said.

  64. 245 desertflower
    March 11, 2012 at 11:12 am

    Great read! http://www.politicususa.com/jobs-death-panel/

    tnmtgirl…more YOU KNOW WHAT!!!

  65. March 11, 2012 at 11:17 am

    I have to say it really bums me out to see OFA featuring The Quitter in any of our ads. The majority of the country despises her – she’s a complete idiot and not worth anybody’s time. I’m not happy about that ad.

    • 248 57andFemale
      March 11, 2012 at 11:32 am

      Here’s the thing that has occurred to me since watching the movie last night: showing Palin shines a big, bright light on Repubican decision-making, judgment and the sham of ‘country first’ when it was always about ‘winning first’ and nothing else. I would have agreed with you 24 hours ago, but now I think it’s a potent message for us to use.

      • March 11, 2012 at 11:50 am

        Thanks, I guess I’ll have to see the film when it comes to Netflix. She’s like a cockroach the way she keeps going even though people are thoroughly sick of her.

    • 250 donna dem 4 obama
      March 11, 2012 at 11:34 am

      meta, I understand where you are coming from but this election campaign will be very different from 2008 (thanks to Citizen United). This WH will not be able to leave any attack unchallenged. She attacked him so our side uses it as an opportunity to raise funds for the campaign. As outrageous as the birthers are (and yes the majority of the country think their assertions are ridiculous) the Obama Campaign uses those opportunities to sell that birth certificate cup. SP is no different.

      I will never forget Plouffe talking about the campaign after we won and him saying that SP was the biggest driver of campaign donations because we all realized how outrageous she is. We may think that she is not worth the time but our ridiculous media will run with every controversial comment she makes and if we don’t push back by showing how ridiculous she is it will get legs and take off. They saw this happen with the Health Care fight and I get the impression that they refuse to allow her to have the upper hand. I think they have calculated that it is better to ridicule her than to just let her words run rampant throughout the media.

      • March 11, 2012 at 11:48 am

        I hear what you’re saying. I confess my own personal temperament is getting in the way of my understanding. I so completely despise her arrogance, her lack of education, her misguided and ill-informed opinions, her race-baiting dog whistles that could wake the dead. I detest her with the bright hot light of a billion suns +1. So it pains me to see her face and hear her insanity and then the OFA logo. ACK. But I hear you loud and clear, Donna.

    • March 11, 2012 at 11:46 am

      what ad is that ? Any linky ?

    • March 11, 2012 at 11:53 am

      Palin motivates Dems to donate money. You remember the campaign raised a million in 24 hours when she first gave her convention speech?

  66. 259 57andFemale
    March 11, 2012 at 11:24 am

    I’m watching Howard Kurtz hold the screenwriters of Game Change to documentary-style truth standards. Does he do that to Romney?

    • 261 utaustinliberal
      March 11, 2012 at 11:30 am

      Howard Kurtz is all about the false equivalency nonsense. He was one of those who felt a thrill up his legs for Palin. He wants people to think that Game Change was a propaganda movie. Newsflash Howie it just portrayed Palin exactly as she is. A hateful race baiting monster.

      • March 11, 2012 at 12:11 pm

        I recorded and watched Game Change late last night, and the movie depicted all that I remember the MSM discussing when all of the events were happening; including Kurtz. I laughed a lot because it seemed so real. 🙂

    • 263 Linda
      March 11, 2012 at 11:30 am

      What ? Has ANYONE claimed the movie is not accurate ?

    • 265 EWOK2
      March 11, 2012 at 11:54 am

      Rush is a political arm of the Republican establishment, he has been given license to say what they themselves cannot say in public, he is no “radio personality” speaking his mind, he is thanked and being highly paid for what he does, stir up the crazies, get them in the voting booths and have them thinking a certain way. Rush is the ultimate propaganda conveyer for the RNC. Rush is a power borker in the Republican Party, and our wise President knows this. He is on the air in our Armed Force Radio complimenting Bush at the time, now he is being used to cause dissent in the ranks with his bile, I hope we get enough signatures on the petitions to get him off the air.

      • 266 hopefruit2
        March 11, 2012 at 12:04 pm

        That’s correct. And when people try to use the false equivalence of Bill Maher or Keith Olbermann, neither of whom are considered de facto leaders of the Democratic party or DNC, it’s absurd.

    • March 11, 2012 at 12:06 pm

      No, when the mob gathered to watch and jeer while a bully beat up the weak and helpless, it was the President of the United States who stepped forward.
      Stonekettle Station
      Thanks Df for the link. Clear concise commentary. Imagine that folks actually said that the president’s call was a political calculation. How dumb can some people get? Never mind, the answer stretches into infinity.

  67. 269 defytheodds
    March 11, 2012 at 11:58 am

    Hello, this is Sarah… 🙂

  68. March 11, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    This tragedy in afghanisthan is yet another proof that american should get the fuck outta there. The US army owns this fuck-up and let’s hope the trial of all those involved including the chain of command is transparent and just.

    • 273 hopefruit2
      March 11, 2012 at 12:41 pm

      The US has plans to withdraw from Afghanistan and I doubt that these incidents will cause a dramatic change from the timeline – even though my tinfoil guess is that the latest string of incidents from the urinating on corpses, then the Koran burning to the current shooting is to generate angst and discord in Obama’s base and provide yet another opening for the GOP to attack the President.

      As someone on Twitter posted:

      I replied to her that this is in fact the intended effect.

      This is minimally different from the earlier discussions we’ve had concerning the Catholic church and contraception coverage issue. The only difference is that real lives are being destroyed for petty reasons. All of these incidents are being committed by US solidiers yet they aren’t the only ones deployed. I don’t get it.

      • March 11, 2012 at 1:10 pm

        “All of these incidents are being committed by US solidiers yet they aren’t the only ones deployed.”

        It’s a very good point you raise, hf. It was the same point I raised at the BJ thread on this subject. It’s time high time the entire american military, from PBO downwards, did some serious introspection on this behavior of their personnel.

        • 275 hopefruit2
          March 11, 2012 at 1:16 pm

          Furthermore, while the shooting incident could be considered an effect of PTSD – the Koran burning and corpse urination do not strike me as such. It also appears that after the civilians were shot and killed, other US solidiers engaged in further offensives by pouring chemicals on the bodies and burning them. This may not have been simply one soldier going off – it seemed more like a coordinated attack, and the media of course is damn near useless when it comes to accurate reports.

          • March 11, 2012 at 1:21 pm

            I agree. This kinda excusing only makes the matter worse.

            You should read this BJ thread http://www.balloon-juice.com/2012/03/11/developing-story-us-soldier-murders-16-afghan-civilians-in-their-beds/#comment-3103472 , especially posts by Ramiah Ariya.. He/she raises some valid points.

            The only mitigarting factor here is it’s PBO in charge and I hope that he will do the right thing.

            My heart goes out to those innocent dead children.

            • 277 vcprezofan2
              March 11, 2012 at 2:20 pm

              News of the shooting was just so devastating to me. Will humanity ever be able to leave violence for whatever reason and war etc behind? Sigh! Let there be peace, and let it begin with me.

              • 278 vcprezofan2
                March 11, 2012 at 2:57 pm

                What? That’s not what I posted! At least, that’s not what I intended to post – must have copied url from the wrong browser. Humblest apologies. Taking another shot at it and if it fails will just crawl quietly away.

                • 279 vcprezofan2
                  March 11, 2012 at 3:01 pm

                  Oh Lord, now the right one shows up above, so there are now two! Okay, I’m going to give myself a time out until I can get it back together. Doing some much needed housework might ground me again. Sorry for the mix-up…..Have a good afternoon, everyone! a confused mind-deadened VC

  69. March 11, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    James Fallows:

    Iran Drumbeat: Doomsday Clock, Chickenhawks, Chessmaster?

    http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/03/iran-drumbeat-doomsday-clock-chickenhawks-chessmaster/254295/

    The Chessmaster section is particularly interesting.

  70. 282 hopefruit2
    March 11, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    Title: The subtle racism of ascribing success to luck

    //For a couple of years now the chattering class has been characterizing President Obama as weak. What’s interesting is that now that his political fortunes are improving, there seems to be a meme developing that he’s lucky. //

    Read more…
    http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2012/03/subtle-racism-of-ascribing-success-to.html?m=0

    • 283 desertflower
      March 11, 2012 at 12:32 pm

      Yes. I’ve noticed that disturbing trend myself. He’s not lucky…he’s a long goal thinker. The people throwing the “lucky” memo around, have NO IDEA what is required for that type of thought process. They are short term, myopic “thinkers”….no wonder why they’re baffled. The truth of this never even occurred to them, therefore…it must be luck. Idiots.

  71. 284 GGail
    March 11, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    Good west coast morning Chipsticks and TOD family.

    LL – the new LA Hdqts
    Attending:
    Thursday, March 15, 2012 – 3 hours

    Time(s):
    Thursday, March 15, 2012 4:00 PM – 7:00 PM

    Location: OFA California Headquarters 10401 Venice Blvd Los Angeles, CA 90034
    Directions:
    On the corner of Venice and Motor. The office is on the 2nd
    floor above Coffee Bean and Subway. Venue is ADA accessible.
    If you require elevator access please send an email to
    info@ofaca.com

    You can update your signup and view other events you’re attending at https://my.barackobama.com/page/event/myevents

  72. 285 utaustinliberal
    March 11, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    Just saw this tweet and though it made chuckle it’s also so true.

  73. 286 SUE DUVALL SMITH
    March 11, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    BLESS YOU ALL TODAY…OFF TO CHECK OUT WHERE MY VOTER REG. STATION WILL BE NEXT WEEKEND…:)

  74. 287 relellit
    March 11, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    Good afternoon Todville

    Love this Karen Hunter on MSNBC getting in the republican strategist’s butt. He is trying to say PBO can’t over 50 in the polls. She retorted none of the repubs get over 35!!! You know that’s Right.

    Poor Alex feels sorry for Palin because she was thrust into a position she was not ready for. Boo hoo hooo . Sarah could have quit.

    • 288 4morefor44
      March 11, 2012 at 1:03 pm

      PBO is over 50% in many polls. more republicans being allowed to lie, lie, and lie some more with no “journalist” saying, “actually that’s not true. here are several recent polls where PBO is well over 50%.” which is a basic fact. thank god we have the internet today to share the truth instead of the constant lies of our billionaire media.

    • 289 utaustinliberal
      March 11, 2012 at 1:07 pm

      Every weekend I despair of Alex Witt’s brain. Her lack of intelligence is shocking. All she seems good at doing is reading a teleprompter. She sits down there and accepts every Tom, Dick, and Harry lie her GOP guests spoon feed her.

      She just compared President Obama’s jobs event – which he does every friday when jobs numbers are released; be they good or bad – to a victory lap. How is that a victory lap??!!!

      Karen Hunter was great. She reminds the GOP that this is 2012 and their lies will not go unchecked.

      • 290 Linda
        March 11, 2012 at 1:15 pm

        Alex Nit Witt…..

      • 292 anniebella
        March 11, 2012 at 2:09 pm

        Alex Witt is the one that sit there as Chris Matthews attack the President and then he went after the First Lady, and she sat there like a knot on a log. As for Karen Hunter, I like her, I think maybe she should have gotten the tv show instead of Mrs. M. H. Perry.

  75. March 11, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    Chip, love, where are you? #worried.

  76. 304 GGail
    March 11, 2012 at 1:02 pm

    Has Chipsticks been quiet on Twitter too? (I don’t tweet)

  77. 306 Pamela
    March 11, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    Hi everyone.. First day off in two weeks, man, I am tired! Spring is definitely here! 😉

  78. 307 JoJothecat
    March 11, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    Thank you Chips and TOD Family!

    Just getting going for a Re-elect President Obama Sunday – I donated this morning and this afternoon will attend an OFA meeting at Glendale Community College in California.

    • 308 GGail
      March 11, 2012 at 1:29 pm

      Hi JoJo, did you get the email about the Grand Opening of the OFA Los Angeles Headquarters?

      • 309 desertflower
        March 11, 2012 at 1:34 pm

        Sounds wonderful, GGail 🙂 I hope that you and the other CA TOD’ers get to meet up! That would be great…

        • 310 GGail
          March 11, 2012 at 1:37 pm

          I know df!
          I just can’t seem to be able to connect with them. I would love for us to meet next week.

          Where’s Tally, LL, HZ, and other CA TODers????

          • 311 desertflower
            March 11, 2012 at 1:47 pm

            Would be like a family reunion….and an awesome connection. Keep trying, GGail. Keep trying! If I see them post, I’ll remind them that you want to try and meet there…I would love to meet my AZ TOD’ers as well, at a OFA here….they mean the world to me.

          • 314 PurpleShoesLA
            March 11, 2012 at 3:15 pm

            Hi GGail,
            I rsvp’d for the OFA LA office opening and will be there as well; coming from Downtown so I hope the LA traffic gods are in good spirits on Thursday. I’ll be wearing my “it’s President THAT ONE to you!” button (watching Caribou Barbie and the Game Change last night, got me so riled up, I had to get that button back out), and PURPLE SHOES of course! 🙂

      • 315 JoJothecat
        March 11, 2012 at 2:08 pm

        Hi GGail,

        I did get the email and I saw your post about it too. I have a dentist appointment on the westside so I will be there. I will be wearing my Obamabot tee, necklace, and earrings. I hope to see many SoCal TOD’ers there.

        • 316 GGail
          March 11, 2012 at 2:16 pm

          Whooo Hoooooo!
          Look forward to seeing you there JoJo 🙂
          With many probably wearing Obamabot gear, maybe we should do like LL suggests and wear a carnation or something – I’m open to any and all suggestions.

  79. 320 4morefor44
    March 11, 2012 at 1:32 pm

    thanks for highlighting that great post. i have been noticing that theme too, and mostly in the so called liberal blogs and pundits. In my opinion it is a direct extension of the attacks you would often hear and still hear against affirmative action, and those who the privileged class deemed were inferior. i mean a major theme from the beginning of PBO’s time in office has been the “affirmative action president” which i’ve seen used a lot from the so called “left” too!!

    even though i disagreed a lot with his Waiting for Superman movie about education, i was so happy to see what davis guggenheim said on that CNN show hosted by that racist englishman the other day. gugenheim said he couldn’t really find any fault in PBO, and that’s exactly how i feel too. it’s not about some notion of him being “perfect.” what an impossible standard to hold anyone to, let a lone the president!!! i don’t remember anyone asking if george w. bush was perfect. it’s about PBO, given that incredible deck stacked against him, doing the job as a whole better than anyone else could possibly do. PBO probably in hindsight wishes he could’ve done some things differently, but no one, and i mean no one overall could do as well as he has done and will continue to do the next 5 years if we all get out there and work for his reelection!!!

    • 321 desertflower
      March 11, 2012 at 1:39 pm

      I always loved this quote from “Friday Night Lights” (movie) that the coach told his team. It is what being perfect means to him.

      Coach Gary Gaines: Being perfect is not about that scoreboard out there. It’s not about winning. It’s about you and your relationship with yourself, your family and your friends. Being perfect is about being able to look your friends in the eye and know that you didnt let them down because you told them the truth. And that truth is you did everything you could. There wasnt one more thing you could’ve done. Can you live in that moment as best you can, with clear eyes, and love in your heart, with joy in your heart? If you can do that gentleman – you’re perfect!

      I think that this President is the perfect embodiment of this very thought. This truly IS what being perfect, in human terms, means.

  80. March 11, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    Good morning everyone! It is really spring here in MT. The birds are back and it’s in the high 40’s, snow is melting. Much to early but I am ready for the sun.

    Thanks for everyone for the reports on Game Change. I can’t watch any of that. It bad enough living thru it. Now living thru this year is very scary too. We all must do all we can for a democratic congress for our great President who will be reelected. Keep the information coming.

  81. March 11, 2012 at 2:06 pm

    Once again I’m glad it’s Obama as President. He’s shown that he’s a man of compassion and dignity and integrity. The Afghans know that this is just a horrible murder, not any sort of policy designed to make their lives more miserable. I know he’ll do the right thing for everyone concerned and tell us the truth.

    My condolences go out, through whatever invisible wings of prayer they may be, to that Afghan farmer and his family, and eternal peace to those who were murdered.

    As for Chipsticks not posting another thread, I thought that maybe she was outside enjoying the beautiful March weather (It’s 65 where I live as I’m typing this, and sunny!)

  82. March 11, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    By JOHN BRESNAHAN | 3/11/12 9:15 AM EDT
    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said Sunday he understands the Obama campaign’s decision not to transfer millions of dollars in financial aid sought by the House and Senate Democratic campaign committees, and he believes the White House will do whatever it can to support candidates up and down the ticket.

    Reid was responding to a POLITICO reports that President Barack Obama’s key political advisers, David Plouffe and Jim Messina, recently met with him and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) to discuss the request and the president’s decision to say no, at least for now.

    “There are many ways they are helping us,” Reid said on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “I didn’t expect them to bring their checkbook.”

    But the issue of finances – and how to counter the rise of super PACs, especially those allied with the GOP – are a major issue for Reid and Senate Democrats. The recent retirement announcement by Republican Sen. Olympia Snowe  of Maine has thrown a GOP-controlled seat into play and given Reid and other top Democrats hope that they can hold onto the Senate after being all but written off earlier in the cycle.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/politico-live/2012/03/reid-obama-campaign-has-to-guard-their-money-117048.html


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