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Lovely! Good morning!
No way! Am I really 1st?
Yes, xting, AND it’s Friday!
At least, I hope it’s Friday, I feel as if I don’t quite know what day it is, that’s how this week has played out!
xtine, (predictive text is tricky….)
Pamela, TGIF! It better be Friday ‘cos I plan to sleep in tomorrow morning! š
Chips, pretty please, a photo!
Press on!
White house site for comments is down for maintenance: poor timing
probably been getting an overload of comments from all sides.
Those maintenance periods are usually scheduled well ahead of time. So this is just a coincidence. In any event, people should NOT be contacting the WH. PBO has made his position clear. They should be badgering the MEDIA, and the GOP congressmen who want to make this an issue when it’s not. Where are all the women’s groups? Where are all the so-called “feminists” who couldn’t wait to run on Chris Hayes show and blast the administration for the Plan B policy for young girls?
Good morning Chips and TODers……….yickes it’s hard to keep up this morning…..
what time will PBO be on?
Jovie said 11AM EST I believe.
Grazie, ut.
Good morning TOD Fam!
Congrats xtine, I thought I would be first for sure. I am anxiously waiting to see if the President deals with this Catholic crap today. It seems so unbelievable. I am so busy today and tomorrow(all day meeting) and I am blocked from FB at work(probably a good thing) so I am hoping that women will go wild. Last week social media took out the Komen Foundation, this week let’s take out the Catholic Bishops.
Thanks Cindy! I totally believe PBO has THIS, and with our total support, will deliver some comeuppance to those overreaching Bishops and their irrelevant Republican cohorts. Let them continue to have their romance with 1954 and MSM. Their posturing reeks of desperado in search of relevance.
Great getting up morning in ‘Oville’! I’ll post this from the last thread, since it’s such a great video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeGrgewqEXw
Catholics Do Not Have a Deep Moral Objection to Contraception
By Kevin Drum
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The takeaway from all this is pretty clear: conservatives may oppose the contraception requirement for ideological reasons (which is fine), but it’s plain that contraception is simply not a moral hot button for Catholics. To put it plainly, it’s not a matter of conscience. It’s a matter of conscience only for a tiny number of men in the formal hierarchy of the Catholic church. That’s it.
My position on this is plain: the church hierarchy’s objection to birth control is medieval and barbaric. All those Catholic pundits raising hell over the new contraception regs should spend their time instead raising hell with their own church over a policy that’s caused incalculable pain and misery for millions of women around the globe. Instead, they’re all claiming that although they don’t have any problem with contraception, they think the government should be more sensitive toward those who do. But it turns out there’s practically no one who does. They’re all pointing their fingers toward a group of people that barely exists.
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http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/02/catholics-do-not-have-moral-objection-contraception
markknoller Mark Knoller
Waved off describing WH announcement today on contraceptiion issue as a “compromise.” Am told Pres Obama not changing his stand.
!!!!!!!
I can’t wait to hear what he has to say! I hope it’s before I have to leave the house
Exactly. It’s not caving as the media are wont to say. PBO’s saying religious institutions and hospitals are not exempt but his administration will link them up with insurance companies that provide BC coverage.
PBO is not caving there will be some accomodations, the key here is all women should be cover
with BC so really there is no change, but let’s hear from PBO I trust his judgement.
PBO NEVER implied that he was going to change his stand. This BS about Joe Biden was the media trying to create division AS USUAL and folks were falling for it. I think by now we should have had ENOUGH experience with the media to know that their agenda is nefarious, that they operate at the behest of the GOP, that they are threatened by the recent slew of great news for PBO, the imploding of their front-runner Mitt Romney and the general disarray of the Republican party.
It is a compromise. If contraception is not offered free and without extra hoops to go through, women are losers in this. What LOD found, however, is that there were exemptions in all states that require that contraception be offered, even the 8 states that we said were without exemption. It appeared to be sound reporting of actual statutes. The President can say that the new policy is in line with policies in the states. It does not take away the requirement that these employers provide contraception in some sense. From this morning’s reporting, it is not clear if that coverage will be free.
That being said, we lose ground with progressives, Dem’s and probably some independents. We are allowing the Catholic church to be tax-exempt, take taxpayer money, and dictate policy and health care for women. I also fully expect the catholic church to now act in concert with Republicans and say it isn’t good enough. But I don’t believe the administration will acquiesce to their demands any further. Contraception will be offered, but it will be harder to obtain coverage and I don’t know if it will be free or not.
Margaret Carlson on LOD’s show last night said that many catholic institutions chose to offer contraception because they needed to attract decent employees. My feeling is that the politics surrounding this move and the actions taken by the administration will embolden these institutions to not offer the coverage, due to pressure from the diocese. A $30,000/year clerk does not have bargaining power to demand coverage — not in this jobs market.
If the President of NOW was correct when she said that catholic officials were consulted but not women’s groups, then I am livid beyond comprehension.
If PBO has not spoken yet, why would you trust the “reporting” on this issue when it’s the “reporting” that has led us to this point thus far.
57andFemale, have you heard the President’s speech (which he hasn’t given yet?) Or are you getting your details from the media which is trying to get folks riled up with their “compromise” narrative.
Secondly, where are all those women’s groups that you speak of? Why haven’t they come out in support of the current policy – instead of attacking the WH for supposedly not consulting them?
I’m seriously tired of being scolded.
I respect your opinion and would ask that if some of us have concerns in real time we not be treated like naughty children.
This stridency will shut off any discussion. We should be better than that.
For the love of sanity could you at least wait for PBO to speak before jumping on the media bandwagon. LOD was raging and ranting about this issue with non-factual data. Where were all these women groups? PBO has saved their bacon more times than I can count and they couldn’t drag their lazy asses on tv to defend him. Yet they want to bitch about him supposedly not contacting them. Everytime PBO sticks his neck out, no one is there to support him. Wait for him to speal first before peddling wrong information from the likes of LOD and Margaret Carlson. They are not and will never be PBO. They are not in his head.
thank you.
Correct PBO is NOT changing his possition , and by the way as an catholic the catholic church the Bishops
and priest do not represent the mayority of the catholics. they have no problem in protecting priest that
molest children they only intersting on themsevels, they should stay out of the wpmen uterus contraceptions
is not a moral or religious issue is a health issue and it should be a women choice.
of course he isn’t. He already said he was willing to have his administration work with them to listen to and discuss their concerns and they would have 1 year to work through implementation. Bottom line was that they would provide care.
I’m still forming my thought about the whole contraception story, but it seems to me that it just reinforces the blatant right -wing hypocrisy in one more area.
Aren’t some of the people who are foaming at the mouth about this issue the same ones who were frothing over the largely self-created fears about Sharia law in the United States, even introducing legislation to stave off an imaginary threat?
If they were so incensed over the imposition of religious law over our own system, why would they push to allow another religion’s belief to overturn our legislation?
Don’t worry. I think I know the answer, and I know I’m not explaining myself very precisely here, but I can’t help but see still more right wing hypocrisy in action here.
Brian, you explained yourself very well. Very good point.
Brian, your points are true of course. My problem is not the right wing motivation, but how the administration deals with it.
Well, you can always vote for Nader!
Could you at least wait for PBO to speak before jumping on the “blame the administration” bandwagon? Your problem should also be the right wing because they have a loud megaphone too. Your problem should be the media because they have a loud megaphone. Your problem should be finding innovative ways to curb the misinformation about the administration’s mandate. This issue was put out in January and yet not a peep. The administration rolled it out perfectly well and yet not a peep. Then the jobs numbers come out, the economy is improving, PBO secures $40B from the banks that screwed people in the mortgage crisis, U.S. household incomes are on the rise, and PBO’s poll numbers are improving and what does the rightwing aided by their hacks in the media do? Gin up fake outrage so they can distract from the good news. Seems to me you’re falling for the poutrage.
“Compassion is the ultimate source of success in life.” ~ @DalaiLama. Feb 6, 2012
A panelist at CPAC just said PBO “walk back” is not worth his time. He said it will not be accepted.
“He” ? Of course a “He ” would say that….. ( no offense to all he’s )
But if the President already has a fix ….that tells me it was in his back pocket the whole time and all they did was send up a trial balloon to embarrass the right by making them freak out.
♥ ♥ ♥ Good Day Chips! Good Day TOD Family! ♥ ♥ ♥
Barack Obama Quote O’ The Day
Have a great day, everyone! š
Via MJ Lee, Rick Santorum does some explaining, on the “Today” show, about his comment that having women in combat could create complications due to “other types of emotions that are involved”:
Asked about the comments on NBCās āTodayā show, Santorum said he was referring to the emotions of men, not women.
āWhen you have men and women together in combat, I think men have the emotions when you see a woman in harmās way. I think thatās something thatās natural, thatās very much in our culture to be protective,ā he said. …
When host Ann Curry suggested that his remarks on Thursday could be perceived as commentary on āwomen being emotional,ā Santorum said, āOh no, thatās not the issue.ā
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Women in Combat? Gee! Where have I heard that before? Me thinks, the conservatives would hate where I stand on this issue! LOL!
Hmmm, is Rick arguing that MEN aren’t fit for combat?
Men are just too emotional to be in combat….is that what you’re saying Rick?
So according to Mark Knoller, President Obama is not changing his mind. Don’t know if he can be trusted, so I will wait to hear from our President.
Actually anniebella, the original announcement never said that PBO was changing his mind on anything. They said that there was going to be some sort of clarifcation – it was CNN who pushed the “compromise” narrative. The media is looking to stir up as much controversy as possible. They use words that they think will get people upset and stirred up. “Comprise” and “cave” are both words that have been used to rile up the public – particularly where PBO is concerned. Notice that the media NEVER uses these words when talking about Speaker Boner & congressional GOP, or ANY of the GOP candidates? It’s always used in reference to PBO to portray him as weak and indecisive when nothing could be further from the truth.
THIS x 100!!!!!!!!!!!!
According to NBC Knoller is correct PBO is NOT changing his mind, and please, please please
let’s calm down untill PBO speaks and stop listining to the crazy MSM they will drive nuts.
Good morning, everyone. Playing hookey today.
Let us all keep our eyes on the prize and our hearts filled with determination.
Obama/Biden 2012-2016
I see Huckabee at the CPAC hatefest said, “Thanks to President Obama, we’re all catholics now”. I am so beyond disgusted with this whole minstrel show. And Morning Joke is speaking there alongside all the worst haters and liars in the country, not caring a whit about any semblance of journalistic integrity, not that he ever had any to begin with. Any pretense of same has been obliterated. MSNBC loses too, does not reflect well on the judgment on personnel and ethics there. Our media continues to fail this country, increasingly and shamelessly.
Huckabee meant, we are all WHITE people who want to get rid of this N in the oval office. I heard the dogwhistle loud and clear.
Hopefruit; Chica, you and I flow on the same wavelength. 100% agree with your comment.
hopefruit2 you are sooo right on about hackamonster, yesterday the conservative pandints
made an ugly comment about RM it was dispicable I do not agreed with her sometimes, but
we should all respect each other the coservatives not only hate Gays. Blacks. Latinos and every
body else who is NOT white or agree with their idiology is very scary.
I think what Huck should have said is “Thanks to President Obama, we’re all ‘Catholic Bishops’ now.
Huckabee is disgusting. It makes their little wee-wees hard to pontificate on women’s contraception. Their religion is not following the golden rule or anything like it — their religion is their own pride and self-righteousness.
Dotster, ever year since the CPAC circus began there have been hateful, bigoted comments that flow from it and are reported in the media without comment and censure. Every year right wing politicians make asses of themselves to vie for the extreme right vote. It will be over soon and their hideous odor will retreat for another year.
I can’t even comment on this whole ginned-up contraception non-troversy — it makes me too livid to see these self-righteous modern-day PHARISEES being judge and jury over a woman’s right to her own body. It’s even more amazing to see right-wing evangelicals join forces with the very same religious hierarchy they use to rail against in order to spew their sanctimonious bullshit. Jesus was right — it’s always been the religious, white-washed sepulchres filled with filth who always scream the loudest, make the biggest stink, and are the biggest hypocrites. Instead of attending to the log in their own eye, they concentrate on the speck in somebody else’s. It’s not often you get to see such a vivid demonstration of disgusting religious self-importance — but here is Exhibit A.
Well, I guess I had something to say after all. š
THIS! THIS! THIS! THIS! +100,000,000.
CHIPSTICKS! this video is bloody brilliant! Is this how you finish a healthy rant? Well, I say : Chips for President 2016! Fantastic start to the day! Thank you so much!
Chips et al…
I’m at work. So I’m goin to miss POTUS this morning. But I wanted to link to this post from Kay at Balloon juice before the speech. It exactly the attitude i am taking regarding this.
Here it is:
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2012/02/10/womens-health-as-political-football-the-game-goes-on-without-us/
Please check it out!!!!
I hope that everyone understands that this is about the Catholic Church’s belief that contraception is an “evil.” Point blank. This is NOT an issue of religious freedom. What about my religious freedom to have ACCESS to FREE contraceptives if every other woman who has health insurance will be able to access this same benefit. Here’s what everyone should remember and be repeating NON-STOP:
“Contraception is an important, accepted, widely-used, and heretofore largely non-controversial aspect of modern life in America, which is why the president moved forward with plans to guarantee that all women have affordable access to birth control ā a decision supported by a majority of Americans, including a majority of Catholics.” — that’s from the Progress Report and I think that it is a good one sentence response to this whole mess.
Finally, the Catholic Church doesn’t want to be told to provide free contraception as part of health care policies. Fine. It should provide two health policies one with contraception coverage and one without. Allow Catholics and the rest of us a CHOICE of which one fits best with our own bodies and life choices. This is one of the most infuriating assaults on my rights as a woman that has happened and I feel the same type of rage that Chips has expressed here. This will NOT stand. This cannot be allowed to stand.
Hello! Well ARTICUALTED! May I borrow ALL.OF.THIS.? š
Years back, when they had total control over people lives….they did a lot of damage….it’s not only the physical abuse that hurts, the emotional abuse as well.
My grandmother had 10 kids in a row basically, years after years, my mom is number 10…..she had 3 miscarriages after, she was very sick and weak. She and my grandfather were devout Catholics in french Quebec.
My grandfather was getting really worry, he didn’t want to lose his wife and he didn’t want the children to lose their mother. Their priest told him that he had to put that in God’s hands, that it was a sin to use any methods to prevent pregnancy and to just pray.
My grandmother got pregnant again, her 14th pregnancy…she spent 40 days in the hospital, my uncle Gilles had deformities, her body was shutting down, she was so weak…she always died. It took her years to recover.
Their priest paid them a visit after…my grandfather was in tears, he told him that it was too dangerous, that she couldn’t get pregnant again. That they would find a way to prevent that.
Their priest told them that they would no longer be welcome in the church anymore, he shamed them……it was a small village, they couldn’t go to church on Sundays….it broke my grandparents hearts because back then, you HAD to be a ”good catholic” and go to church.
I won’t say what I think about the ”leadership” of the Catholic church because I don’t want to offend anyone.
*almost…not always
{{{{{{{{{{ChristiMTL}}}}}}}}}}} my love to you and your family for what they had to go through. I’m not Catholic, both my two grandmothers had unwanted pregnancies they had to deal with. In their cases, they had to fight their doctors, not their religious leaders.
For shame on the people who are in charge of women’s health — physical or spiritual — and then abandon them.
Again, my love to you and your family…
*but* both had unwanted pregnancies..
Good morning everyone.
PBO wil speak at 12:15
This retreat/cave sounds like the same difference. Same result, different path.
huh? what? i don’t understand what you are trying to say and i don’t want to make an assumption about your meaning.can you clarify?
PBO isn’t retreating or caving.The BC mandate remains as is. All it says is that the administration will link up religious affiliated universities and hospitals with insurance companies that provide BC coverage.
Jessica when you use words like “cave” you are essentially playing right into the hands of the GOP and Media by characterizing our President as weak, indecisive, easily pushed around, having no core, etc…
This President doesn’t “cave” to ANYONE or ANYTHING. If he was “caver” he would not have run for President, let alone win. He makes sensible strategic decisions and has immaculate judgement, seeing things from a far even when his most ardent supporters (myself included) may have doubts.
What?!?!?!
Jessica, first hear what the President have to say before you accuse him of retreating/caving.
I get so dam tired of people always accusing this President of caving.
How do you know what it sounds like when it hasn’t yet been articulated?
Jessica?
This retreat/cave sounds like the same difference. Same result, different path.
What are you talking about here? HHhhhmmm???? Can you please be a bit more specific? Thanks.
Otherwise, it kinda looks like you are throwing a flame and running out of the room.
Just sayin’
You guys have to relax! AP called it retreat and i was quoting them. Basically the end the result is the same, no copays which is what i wanted to know. I should have put it in quotes my bad. Read my comments from yesterday when everyone else was freaking out i wasn’t losing any sleep over it.
I agree, many should relax. You shouldn’t have gotten pounced on for what you posted.
Please jessica, don’t bring ap or the orange place negative quotes here….lets wait until we get word from the President or what he’s people actually say. Your’s and another person’s comments here this morning are not in keeping with our support of the president but more of the press/pundits who work to bring him down.
Why at this point would you acccept and repeat any media reporting when PBO will speak shortly?
My comment was from 2 1/2 hours ago when everybody was freakin out on twitter. People were talking about him switching to hawaii rule and i said no its different. That’s when i quoted ap in jest. That the “retreat” was the same difference.
Its interesting how people are up in arms over my comment when people on this site was comparing this situation to Komen and people was throwing Biden under the bus.
Ive always known that no matter what the decision was the end result would be the same = no copays for bc because it was one of PBO’s core values. PERIOD!!
Whew.. NOW I am sure what day it is, oh, I’d better get a move on it, I have to go to work! Will be lurking…. š love to all, remember: One breath in, one breath out. That’s all you really get, use it wisely. X
He is scheduled to speak at 12:15!!!
Early heads up: PBO will speak about the contraception mandate at 12:15PM ET / 11:15AM CT / 9:15AM PT. MSNBC and CNN will show it LIVE.
Implores latest tweet on the matter! In other words, nobody knows!
Good Morning, Everyone š
What should Obama say? Wolfe, back to you!
exactly
Get a load of this. These Republicans are scary. Their disdain for women knows no bounds.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/10/opinion/republicans-retreat-on-domestic-violence.html?_r=2
Cheryllou, it’s not only disdain for women, it’s minorities of all kind, it’s gays, it’s anyone who is not like them.
What they fail to recognize is that THEY are rapidly becoming a minority in this fast changing word, and they fail to understand as they sow, so shall they reap. Or, perhaps they are beginning to suspect that fact, and they are terrified to be facing the wrath of justice.
We will hear what he has to say at 12:15, right now everything out there is just noise.
HEADLINE: Even At CPAC Conservatives Seem Despondent About 2012 Choices
// The Conservative Political Action Conference is one of the biggest and most anticipated events on the conservative calendar. Generally, the excitement in the air is palpable as conservatives gather to hear over and over again about how their ideas alone are the path to the nationās salvation. This year? Not so much. The incredibly divisive Republican presidential primary has taken its toll on the mood at this yearās conference. Conversations with attendees tell the same story: none of the candidates has them all that stoked about the next 10 months. //
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/02/falling-into-the-enthusiasm-gap-at-cpac-2012.php?ref=fpnewsfeed
THEY WERE FOR IT BEFORE THEY WERE AGAINST IT
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Rachel Maddow presented an excellent segment last night on the “breathtaking hypocrisy” of the Republican Party. Rachel interviews Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky of the Health Subcommittee. They discussed the GOP backtracking on cap and trade, TARP bailout, healthcare mandates and yes contraception coverage. This is a must see segment because Rachel points out the 28 states that have the contraception coverage rulings (similar to the White House) since President George W. Bush. There are Catholic universities and hospitals already provide this service.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#46335268
thank you HP and LH for providing other things to focus on. this is what the GOP water carrying MSM wants. They want us to focus on this fake controversy and not on what they are doing ……. or not doing……. (ie 400 plus days without jobs legislation – you know the drill)
I’ve been tweeting when I can about other things. writing the President can be a great way to express your support for his continued support on womens health issues. Here’s the link again:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/submit-questions-and-comments
AM OFF TO THE DOC’S TODAY…WILL CATCH UP LATER…BLESSINGS ALL!
Take care, Sue!!
Right back atcha’ Sue! Hope all’s well.
I wish people would wait for President Obama to speak before freaking out….how many times did we see that scenario before?…It’s always the same thing….Hair on fire, panic…..
exactly
THANK YOU!!! It’s very frustrating to see folks fall for the okey-doke over and over and over. Is it too much to ask to wait to hear what the man has to say first?
The media speculates, a few of the surrogates speculate, folks start freaking out…wash, rinse, repeat. Drives me up the wall. š”
Don’t let the pundits play you, they don’t know squat.
Yes to this, and remember what BWD taught us long ago: after you listen to President Obama, turn it OFF, don’t stay to listen to ” he said, thus and what he REALLY means is…” and blah blah blah pundits, who are paid heaps and heaps to interpret what we are obviously too stupid to understand. C’mon, PBO is direct, succinct and says exactly what he means. That’s quite enough for me, thank you very much! I shall donate through TOD when he is done, in honor of us all! š
The Catholic Bishops think everybody wants to be a Knight of the Templar!
They are totally stuck in the past. In Midevil times, Bishops were also Generals, who led the Wars against Muslims.
They want to shape America, go backwards young man, go backwards!
THIS
I was just about to post it meta…saw it on twitter…….does it represent the travesty of it all or what?
Christi, there are so many, far too many, oh so many aspects of the travesty of everything the RW does. It’s really hard to fathom. I feel very sorry for the younger generation because this is all they’ve seen and know about politics and journalism. It’s a complete travesty. And all because of the religious fanatics that comprise the far-right wing of the Republican Party who have been pumping and thumping their culture war agenda for the last two decades. Anti-EVERYTHING. POTUS is a breath of fresh air and a beautiful reprieve and it drives them completely insane.
THIS.
Same wars, still going on after thousands of years, time to lay it all down.
Amen.
You can see very clearly that there is no sense of principle or integrity in the right-wing. If it means joining forces with what they term a “cult” (Mormonism) or the “Whore of Babylon” (Catholic Church), right-wing evangelicals/conservatives/”moral majority” types are more than willing to do so if it means denigrating women’s choice or ginning up an issue with which to oppose this President.
It’s amazing.
I wish people will stop with the fucking “cave” bullshit. We don’t even know what he’s going to say. And if there are some type of “accommodations” made for the religious institutions then I would ask why none of our women’s groups have come out to support him? Dems were no where to be found and you know the media will beat this dead horse until they convince people that PBO is “weak.”
I’m not fucking playing into that shit. I trust PBO 100%.
“Cave” is emoprog terminology. I hate to see that word here. Especially when he doesn’t even do that!
You’re not alone Kay…..
yep. what you said.
Thank you collegekay. I agree with everything you said. I believe this President does care for women’s rights, women’s health. I believe he cares for all of our rights and welfare. I get so dam tired of people talking about the President caving. Dam tired of it. And specially when they don’t even know what he has to say. I’m going to stay focus on the big picture here and that is re-elected President Obama. You want to see a all out assault on women’s rights, let these radical Republicans get in control.
Hear, hear Kay!
I think the rise in Santorum’s statue due to this whole contraceptive thing is great. Besides, it’s his turn on the bull of the ‘Pub rodeo show. This leaves Mitt in the dust wearing the clown decoy suit for now. I love it! They have effectively silenced their own front runner.
People really need to understand this
AMEN
yep….I don’t think anything he does is a coincidence or short sighted. (contraceptive debate, hint..hint)
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waiting, with that smile of welcome!
ATTORNEY GENERAL ERIC SCHNEIDERMAN (NEW YORK)
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This man is just amazing. We are so lucky to have him as Attorney General of New York. He is a treasure. Rachel Maddow interviewed him last night about the mortgage deal. He is brilliant and pragmatic. You can easily see why President Obama tapped him to work with Attorney General Eric Holder. He said the mortgage deal was a good “down payment”. It’s a beginning and a great start to holding the misconduct accountable. His involvement made the deal stronger and better.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#46335427
Sorry about all that ranting and raving last night everyone, I’m trying to teach myself to back away from the keyboard when my head is exploding over something š The end results are never pretty.
I’m thrilled PBO is speaking on this today, it really needed to be done. And I’m just going to wait and see what he says without making any assumptions – I see half the media is saying he’ll compromise, the other half says he will only ‘clarify’, not compromise. In other words, they haven’t a clue.
Meaning wouldn’t it be nice if they would shut the heck up to see what it is he will say. But that’s the sorry ass media for you. It’s all a game to them.
Not to worry Chips! It will be fine. I’m waiting to hear our President speak. Forget the media.
The media (both left and right) is a menace to society, a danger to progress and shouldn’t be taken seriously on ANY issue. Their main goal is not to inform the public, but to create confusion, mass hysteria, and to promote lies and propaganda. The media is dominated by over-paid middle-aged men of sub par intellect who have outdated ideas about the role and rights of women and minorities in this country. They are seriously threatened by this president who challenges their world view, and they are doing their level best to prevent him from winning a second term. Now that he’s doing well, the economy seems to be back on track and all the dirty tricks they’ve tried with the GOP/TeaParty/PL/ etc,are backfiring big time, they are now scared and flinging mud all over hoping that something sticks.
To Hopefruit. Woman are you in my head? Yes! Yes! Yes! THIS! THIS! THIS! +100,000,000.
There might be an invisible tube joining our brains allowing a bi-directional flow of important PBO-related information! š š š š
Hey dear one, NO apologies necessary. We love hearing how you feel about the issues and respect you with all cylinders firing. Love your rants, especially. So there.
X2
Chica, sistergirl, cyber-friend of mine.
You know PBO has a plan. HE ALWAYS has a plan. 28 states already do what is being proposed.
You have no need to apologize. The issue of women’s health is one that warrants passion!! In an odd way, I’m glad that this issue has given women the necessary jolt to speak up and out about our health and control over our own bodies.
Oh yeah, you can’t shut down TOD now., you just can’t. Not before we get it done. You just can’t, it’s what they want you to do. What kind of help do you need? I’m sure we can help in some way. Your positive presence on the internet is beyond measure. SERIOUSLY!! Please, please, please re-consider keeping TOD open, at least until we get to celebrate the 2nd term of President Barack Obama.
Here is some food for thought… all attributed to Mohandas K. Gandhi
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win.
An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it. Truth stands, even if there be no public support. It is self sustained.
Truth alone will endure, all the rest will be swept away before the tide of time. I must continue to bear testimony to truth even if I am forsaken by all. Mine may today be a voice in the wilderness, but it will be heard when all other voices are silenced, if it is the voice of Truth.
Seven social sins: politics without principles, wealth without work, pleasure without conscience, knowledge without character, commerce without morality, science without humanity, and worship without sacrifice.
Chips, no more sorries! š I’m feeling very “Cindirelli” right now. Chips, oh Chips, where’s my “I’m First” picture! :()
We have your back too, Chips! š š š
I also prefer to wait to hear what PBO has to say. So I will ignore the media, light a candle for PBO asking for wisdom
in this ‘Solomon’ like moment as he makes yet another momentous decision. We have been down this road many times…
BP oil spill, NYC mosque etc, etc…PBO always outhinks the naysayers. Keep HOPE alive.
either way on the contraception issue, if president Obama goes one way or another I’ll still support him and his re-election. I will be a little disappointed and hope that he’ll go back to it eventually.
It’s saddening that the media accommodated the republicans stance on this so eagerly. I being a male felt like it was none of my business to be honest and assumed that many ‘liberal’ male talking heads thought the same. Guess I was wrong.
all this hullabaloo over a woman’s vagina.
PO has to speak out in support of a woman’s vagina. smdh!
you just can’t make this shyte up.
“ObamaCare’s tyrannical fairness” (PM Carpenter):
[QUOTE] What is at stake? Labor law; the same labor laws that the Church and every other U.S. employer is obligated to obey. The Catholic Church, as Boies explained dispassionately, could not evade out of some presumed religious conscience the minimum wage or workers’ compensation or a 40-hour week or any other universally applied labor law of a reasonable standard. The Affordable Care Act’s contraception provision, as a required condition of employer healthcare coverage, is no different. The Obama administration has already compromised, the ACA has already exempted the Church itself, just as a variety of preceding state laws have — which have never, not once, been an “issue.” [UNQUOTE]
Entire Piece Here: http://pmcarpenter.blogs.com/p_m_carpenters_commentary/2012/02/obamacares-tyrannical-fairness.html
Santorum just quoted Margaret Thatcher. Wonder if the ignoramus knows she was pro choice.
facts are not to be considered, they’re pesty and just get in the way. Besides, it’s Santorums turn in the spotlight. Let him enjoy his moment….
It seems, some on this site hangout at Daily Kos and Firedoglake!
Precisely.
A certain J……….a, methinks.
Apology…I may have jumped to conclusion.
WORD.
For real Jovie.
Check mate!!! http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/white-house-announces-contraception-accommodation-for-religious-orgs
Women will still have access to free contraceptive coverage. The onus will fall on the insurance companies to offer the benefit. This is so brilliant.
Ha ! I hope Scarborough’s head explodes.
I’m with you. Here’s Planned Parenthood’s statement of support of this decision – http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/planned-parenthood-approves-of-contraception-compromise
but wasn’t that always the case? Wouldn’t insurance companies be the one to offer that type of coverage anyway? What am I missing?
Coroner probing [Cardinal] Bevilacqua’s cause of death
Montgomery County authorities asked the county coroner to examine the body of Cardinal Anthony J. Bevilacqua last week to ensure the 88-year-old prelate died of natural causes, not foul play.
Coroner Walter I. Hofman said county prosecutors made the request because Bevilacqua died barely a day after a judge said the former leader of the Archdiocese of Philadelphia might have to testify at next month’s child sex-abuse and endangerment trial for three current and former priests. “They wanted to make sure there were no intervening events that could have speeded up that demise,” Hofman said.
More here: http://articles.philly.com/2012-02-09/news/31042296_1_sexually-abusive-priests-donna-farrell-endangerment-trial
After saving the auto industry, after killing Bin Laden, after Wall Street reform, after delivering health care, after pulling this fucking country out of the shitter, and now President Obama still has to jump through hoops for some of you?
I getting a just a little bit sick and fucking tired of some of you that every time a controversy arises you immediately think that President Obama is going to sell out. After all he has done, he still has to prove himself to you?
Fuck that shit, I didnāt come here to listen to all this bullshit, if I wanted that I would have stayed at daily kos. Either you are going to support President Obama or not, we donāt fucking need any fair weather supporters.
THIS RIGHT HERE.
I deeply admire President Obama for all those things and will vote for the prez again and again. You put me to shame however and perhaps in the future I should pause before acting rashly.
My sincerest apologies.
*I’m
Don you are 100% fucking right! All this “blame the administration” crap I’m reading from a few on this blog – excluding you Chips. Your rant was warranted – is downright sickening. PBO has proven himself over and over again. What the fuck else does he have to do? Sheesh!
Don you are RIGHT. Absolutely right. I’m really sick of people doubting this President after all he’s been through. This is not about Biden or Kerry. Joe Biden has disagreed with PBO on several issues in the past, including the decision to take out Bin Laden. The President can tolerate dissension in his cabinet without getting hysterical. And all the polls show that this false nontroversy contraceptives issue has hurt Mitt Romney more than anyone else – including the President.
Love it Mr. Don. I agree with what you said.
clap clap clap clap clap
YES!
well said Don!!
Hear, hear. People who are whining that he is a sell-out don’t know the meaning of that word.
Thank you Don
Well said! I will never go against President Obama. He has proven time and time again that his main goal is to help the American people. He is so authentic that none on the right can hold a candle to our President.
There you have it, Don does not mince words. Thank you Don!
Agree. Thank you, Don. What was needed was a reality slap.
right on Don!
Fist bump on that !
don, you’re speaking to the big issue–do we trust pbo? if not, then there are lots of websites and news programs and talk shows to go to. but this is a place where we support the president, and support each other in our work of supporting the president.
that said, the issue of women’s rights to our own bodies is breathtakingly essential to our sanity and life path. and it is within our living memory that we have won these rights away from the powers of patriarchy. so we’re a little jumpy and sensitive.
the rethugs, though evil, are not entirely stupid. they have no candidate and no issues, so they’re just rousing the basest fears and trying to make the fears stick to pbo. that’s their whole campaign.
women love pbo because of the work he has done for the country, for all the people, for children, soldiers, the economy, etcetecetc. the rethugs thought they’d peel a few of us away from him by scaring us into thinking he didn’t care about us, and would trade us off for political points. but we know him better than they do–he’s honest and he has integrity and he cares about women’s rights.
we’re human, and apparently not entirely impervious to the fear storms the rethugs stir up. good info for us, and now we’re stronger. let’s stay together.
An awkward time to ‘reconnect’
By Steve Benen – Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:11 AM EST.
It’s late in the game for him to try to “reconnect.”
A week ago, Mitt Romney and his campaign were right where they wanted to be. The former governor had scored an impressive win in Florida, he was poised to score another victory in Nevada, and the race for the Republican presidential nomination looked to be effectively over.
There was nary a whisper of internal dissension within the Romney camp. Why would there be? Their guy was the “inevitable” nominee.
A week, two caucuses, and a non-binding primary later, confidence from Team Romney has suddenly dwindled. The Washington Post reports that party officials are “expressing fresh concerns” about the former governor and are “increasingly anxious” about his candidacy.
One prominent adviser told the candidate to sharpen his use of conservative code words and create “small pictures” — vivid imagery, in other words — to connect with voters. Another flew to Boston to say that Romney’s message is too businesslike and broad to capture the passion of angry Republican voters. Still others have gone on television and written opinion columns to hammer home what is becoming a common theme this year: that Romney has not been able to ignite a cause when the GOP is primed to become part of one.
http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/10/10372486-an-awkward-time-to-reconnect
And what ’cause’ that would be ? They got nutin.
MSNBC right now is showing Rick Santorumās speech, his full speech at that. This guy isnāt even the top candidate and MSNBC just showed his entire speech, but damn if they would do that for the actual President. And some of you are crying about President Obama stance on contraceptives? Folks we are in a fucking war against motherfuckers that want to take this country back to the 1800ās.
Exactly. I wish folks would stop attacking the administration and start putting the focus fairly and squarely where it belongs – on the menace to society that is the corporate media (left AND right).
With all due respect, women’s health issues are very important to many of us who are ardent supporters of this President. The implication that folks should sit back quietly and not speak out about an assault led by the Church against women’s health rights is ludicrous. So we will keep “crying” as you so respectfully put it until we are no longer under assault by the rightwing of this country on these issues. The President who you purport to support unconditionally doesn’t want a bunch of sheep as “followers.” He wants an activated and engaged citizenry. This comes from someone who worked on Obama’s 1999-2000 Congressional campaign against Bobby Rush. So I’ve known him for years. He would expect nothing less from each of us than for us to have been bombarding the White House telling him to stand strong in his decision because we had his back. I think that you are misreading the fact that he is and was an ORGANIZER and organizing demands that one confronts power. That’s what people were doing over the past week. Thank you.
No, I think that you misread what I wrote; I know he’s an organizer and a great one at that. I laugh when the GOP derisively call him a community organizer. For me when he defeated Bobby Rush I knew he was destined for greater things, I’ve long been a supporter of Barack Obama the man long before he became President Obama, but my complaint is with those that claim to support him and start “crying” when the first sign of trouble arise. If you think that I used the word “crying” as some sort of weapon against women that are under assault by the right wing well then that proves to me you misread what I wrote. To be blunt, I have no interest in trying to control any woman’s vagina.
He did not defeat Bobby Rush.
I’m sorry I just realized I said Bobby Rush, but the fact that he faced moneyed interest and still won.
Hi Don,
I hear you and thanks for your clarification. I appreciate that you took the time to do so. Unfortunately, I wish we had won against Bobby. We got crushed. It was one of the most vicious campaigns that I have been part of here in Chicago. I think that it taught Barack many lessons that now hold him in good stead.
Hog wash. He doesn’t want the ‘organizing’ the WH.If you wish, do it against thugs are doing this.
Hello AMK, sorry to disagree with you but I must. As a long time organizer, I know two things for sure:
1. You organize against your target using all tools to influence them to you side.
2. You organize your allies too.
That’s what folks who called and wrote the White House were doing. Organizing their allies. They have to know that you are paying attention. They have to feel that you are watchful. Finally if they have done something you actually support, you need to let them know to stand firm and not back down and that you have their back.
It’s organizing 101 courtesy of Rules for Radicals by Alinsky (which I know if a bad word for the right wing). For us in Chicago, we see the positive aspects of Alinsky’s work and his theories.
It was his frigging plan fergodsake. If you want to support him, tell him that you stand behind him all the way instead of lecturing him and asking him ‘not to cave’.
Women’s health are important to all of us, but what I don’t like and that will not change is how the minute some heard the President was going to speak, the first hing some thought was he was going to C-A-V-E. A word I can’t stand (cave). Women’s right and their health is important to this President.
Mark Knoller just tweeted that PBO is making insurers offer free BC coverage to employees at religious institutions that opt out. I know someone earlier was concerned that it would be free, so hope that helps…
I meant “wouldn’t” be free
Another flew to Boston to say that Romneyās message is too businesslike and broad to capture the passion of angry Republican voters.
Translation : dumb it down Mitt…..dumb it down?
It would have helped him more if he decried all minorities as not even people. The more bigoted you are in these types of events, the more hateful you sound, the more it helps you.
Change the subject for a minute, oh wait just a minute, I do want to say this. I am putting it in my words, not exactly how the First Lady said it, but you will remember that she said it. Okay do anyone remember when FLOTUS said that when all others would be all upset, all in array, POTUS is looking at the big picture. He is all calm while everyone else is all in a fit. Something similar to that. To me, meaning he knows what he is doing. I wish I could fine that exact words of hers.
test. I just left a response that didn’t show up. Annieballa, I know what you mean. FLOTUS was talking about how calm PBO is under pressure.
Couldn’t find it anniebella, but Michelle Obama once said, “You can’t really understand Barack until you understand Hawaii.” (Obama: From Promise to Power) & President Obama once described a fellow Hawaiian: “He doesn’t get rattled easily, performs under pressure. That’s the Hawaiian spirit. That’s how we roll.” (April 21, 2009)
Back to what I started to say, I love the Let’s Move video, look like lots of fun was had by everyone, including the First Lady. It almost look like a campaign stop for President Obama. The kids seem to love FLOTUS. I do too.
Here we go again !!!!!!!!!!!
Barack Obama does not have the legal right to be President of the United States.
Such is the claim of Thomas Barchfeld, a Whitehall Borough resident from Glen Elm Drive and a member of the Whitehall Borough Republican Committee. And Barchfeld says that he has proof.
The 56-year-old former Democrat-he switched parties in 2011-has been going to the homes of registered Republicans in Whitehall (a Pittsburgh suburb) with a letter that he has written to Pennsylvania Secretary Carol Aichele claiming that Obama’s natural-born citizenry is in serious question.
In fact, to Barchfeld, there is no doubt.
While Barchfeld does not directly question Obama’s birthplace-the president was born in Hawaii in 1961-he instead focuses on Obama’s parents. That’s parents with an “s,” and according to Barchfeld, that’s extremely important.
http://baldwin-whitehall.patch.com/articles/whitehall-man-is-aiming-to-remove-obama-from-pa-ballot#photo-8080552
Well, I’m sure glad this numbnuts switched parties. We don’t need dumbass racists like that in our grouping. Your parents don’t have to be American citizens, else John Quincy Adams and Chester A. Arthur wouldn’t have been President. But then again, they were White.
: White House Amends Birth Control Mandate: Contraceptive Coverage Offered Directly from Insurers
President Obama is a skilled leader ..and knows just the right tone and language to use to let women know I’m with you..politics is a game of chess…PBO already has anticipated his opponents move before they have decided to make a move..these rt wing/baggers are playing a child’s game of dime store checkers..Love Me Some President Obama..Landslide 2012
I’m just curious what are the exact rules… Sorry I don’t have time to look them up at the moment.
I made a dreadful mistake on here when I referred to the president as his first name and not as the president. I again apologize for that mistake but are there other rules I should be aware of so I don’t anger anyone?
Hey Jeff, I don’t believe you should worry too much. I think the reason we get upset when persons say “Obama” and not PRESIDENT Obama is because the persons in the GOP and the media refuse to call him PBO. They behave as if he wasn’t democratically elected by the majority and that he has no right to be called President. I mean I live in Jamaica and even my 5 year old son calls him President Obama.
Jeff, I would not call it a rule but a proper courtesy.
There are no hard and fast rules about how we address the President – but we have a general (informal) preference that as a sign of respect we use the title of “President” to address him, and PBO short for President Barack Obama is the general term used. However, many times folks use the term “Obama” but not in a disrespectful manner, so it depends on the context in which it’s used. However you are not going to get banned for using the term “Obama” but occasionally folks may bring it to your attention.
I don’t think there are any rules per se. I see people say just “Obama” or “Barack” but you can tell it’s respectful or endearing — some people think of him as a son or friend in their head. It’s all the spirit behind the words. š
On twitter:
@PaulBegala For once, WH negotiated perfectly. If they’d STARTED w/ this new accomodation, Catholic Church would’ve balked/rejected.
Paul Begala
New compromise protects religious liberty and women’s access to contraception. Kudos to Pres. Obama. Left has compromised. Will right?
I don’t like the FOR ONCE but….it’s still positive.
Yeah, that “For Once” is annoying. I don’t know why so many Professional Dems always have to get in some sort of dig in at the presdient. Of course, Begala was a Clinton-era Dem, so it’s not surprising.
I just hope that once PBO completes his second full term without being impeached these Clinton Dems will finally acknowledge he is at least the equal of their master (I, naturally, think he far surpasses Clinton, but I can’t expect that from them.)
WHY ARE SPEAKERS AT THE CPAC CONVENTION USING (gasp) “TELEPROMPTERS”??
GottaLaff answers my question. Actually, not using a teleprompter can be very dangerous for some politicians like John Kaisich. However, I still expect that someone at the CPAC Convention (while reading from a teleprompter) will make some wisecrack about President Obama’s use of the teleprompter. Because the GOP hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Why teleprompters are a good thing
http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2012/02/08/why-teleprompters-are-a-good-thing/
Yes, you gotta laff; since the republicans never get anything right whenever they read or speak.
President Obama is speaking now: http://www.whitehouse.gov/live
This is the Community Leaders Summit.
This just in: Catholics United officially excommunicated for supporting a reasonable policy solution.
Chips, that video is fantastic! Perfect for times like these, when some need a reminder why this man’s intentions and actions make it clear that there’s really no room for doubting him, EVER.
WORD…
And, let’s NOT FORGET, PBHO has *ALWAYS* got this: š
Deaniac: [President] Barack Obamaās brilliant play on birth controlā¦. http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2012/02/barack-obamas-brilliant-play-on-birth.html Via @thepeoplesview
YES.WE.CAN…DO.(Much)More, Together – WE MUST!
YES.WE.CAN, Again…Obama/Biden 2012!
WE CAN’T WAIT/WE CAN’T GO BACK…So, LET’S STAY TOGETHER 2012! š
PRESS ON!
Good morning TODville and Chips
MEMO: good news the President Obama just handed the righties their contraceptives.
Now, will the priest, bishops, and cardinals use them? After all they are pedophiles; so why not??
Women will still get guaranteed access to birth control without co-pays or premiums no matter where they work, a provision of Obama’s health care law that he insisted must remain. But religious universities and hospitals that see contraception as an unconscionable violation of their faith can refuse to cover it, and insurance companies will then have to step in to do so.
Obama will speak about his decision at 12:15 p.m. EST.
The administration instead will demand that insurance companies will be the ones directly responsible for providing free contraception.
http://money.msn.com/business-news/article.aspx?feed=AP&Date=20120210&ID=14781658
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Oh Happy Day
Everyone have a nice day
LMAO…Even Fox News’s poll says voters don’t give two scoops about the birth control faxutrage
The poll asked about the Obama administration requiring all employer health plans to provide birth control coverage as part of preventative services for women. (This includes Catholic and other religious-affiliated hospitals and universities that oppose doing so because it violates their religious rights.) A majority sides with the administration: 61 percent of voters approve of the requirement, while 34 percent disapprove. Thereās a wide gender gap, as women (67 percent) are significantly more likely than men (53 percent) to approve. Catholics (58 percent) and Protestants (57 percent) alike approve of the requirement. And a majority of Catholic women (65 percent) as well as half of Catholic men (51 percent) also back the mandate.
LOLOLOLOL…I’m weeping here. Someone alert Morning Schmuck, Mika the Mouse and the rest of the commentariat…
wow. talk about media ginned up bullcrap.
NAARL and Planned Parenthood both approve of the reported “compromise” because the end result is the same: women will have access to contraception.
Cjips, post that egg in the face pic on schmucks like joe blow, tweety,
Like they care….till the next fake outrage…….little Joe is desperate, his candidate is going down in flames…..and Tweety? I gave up understanding him a while ago…..he’s left one day, right the next,….weirdo.
And it will be free. PBO was always in control of this gined up outrage. Love love love him.
WE MUST STOP THE GOP WAR ON WOMEN AT THE BALLOT BOX
I totally agree ut. And like I said yesterday, any woman of voting age who is not registered and prepared to make her voice heard in November really needs to consider the implications. And that includes the men in their lives who love and support them. The Republican Party war on women has to be stopped at the ballot box this year. The choice is clear. It’s President Obama who is fighting for women’s rights and health. He had proven that in word and deed.
I have to say to hopefruit2 that I really appreciate your comments this morning…well I always do appreciate your comments any given day but you are so good this morning….no panic, facts……thank you.
Both Catholic Health Assn and Planned Parenthood Say Theyāre Pleased With Contraception Rule Announcement
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Senior administration officials are pleased with the initial response to President Obamaās pending announcement on an āaccommodationā for religious organizations regarding the rule requiring employers to provide health insurance that covers birth control.
Though theyāre on opposite sides of the birth control and abortion debate, both Sister Carol Keehan, the president and CEO of the Catholic Health Association, and Cecile Richards, president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America, issued statements Friday morning applauding the compromise, which allows religious organizations to keep contraception out of its coverage while requiring the insurance companies to step in and offer contraceptive coverage to the female employees.
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http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/02/both-catholic-health-assn-and-planned-parenthood-say-theyre-pleased-with-contraception-rule-announcement/
Perfect!
Thank the Lord!
Seems like everybody who has been vocally opposing the mandate of contraception coverage has basically been a bunch of guys. Unmarried, officially “celibate” guys. It’s hard to think of anybody less qualified to have any opinion on thie issue of Birth OCntrol Pills than these bunch.
We are biting on the bitter apple of culture wars – let’s not take the fruit being offered to us in the media and by the GOP. Now that the economy is coming back, jobs are opening up and unemployment is going down, the GOP are trying to turn the attention away from the economy and put it squarely back into the social and cultural wars that they always turn to when they want to stir up the pot. We don’t have to take the bait. The contraception furor has reached fever pitch and some way must now be found to diffuse the situation. PBO will clarify the administration’s rule — I am planning on listening to him do just that today.
The ease with which the right yanks the chains of left is
amazingis sickening.So to refocus….”Historic settlement lifts hope for recovery”
“The $25 billion settlement with banks over alleged foreclosure abuses will provide financial relief to an estimated one million at-risk borrowers,” the Wall Street Journal reports, “raising new hopes for an economy still hurting from the mortgage bust.”
http://www.directorship.com/historic-settlement-lifts-hopes-for-housing-recovery/
While there is some pessimism out there on how many underwater homeowners can be helped by the settlement, it’s clear that this settlement can impact the economy in a good way. It’s another wait and see deal that should be seen to its completion before the naysayers in the media crap all over it.
Willard speaks at 12:55 to CPAC and will not have time to develop his response to PBO’s 12:15 statement. You have to love it.
I will be waiting to not listen to Mitt ,Willard or whoever he is this morning.
I remember in the run up to the 2008 election, chicken little-ism was a constant in our lives and this latest media generated issue brought some of that fear up for many of us. I admit when Chips started getting worried, I got worried. As a former Catholic who has major rage issues towards the Catholic Church, I completely understand her strong emotional reaction because I share it, in spades. However, President Obama proved once again that the sky is not falling and for his leadership, I am grateful.
ANOTHER GOP TALKING POINT BITES THE DUST
‘Common-sense solution’ on contraception
By Steve Benen (Maddowblog)
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“All women will still have access to preventive care, and that includes contraceptive services, no matter where they work,” the official said. It will be the same “guaranteed” benefit for these employees as in “any other workplace.”
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If insurance companies can make the implementation work, it would appear this policy carefully threads a needle. The right’s talking points all week, when not attacking contraception itself, were based on the notion that it’s an “assault on religious liberty” to force religious employers to honor the contraception mandate. They’ve now lost that talking point.
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http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/10/10373291-common-sense-solution-on-contraception
ok, i’ve missed everything. anyone have a summary of what PBO said?
He hasn’t spoken yet – he will be live on TV at ~ 12:15PM.
Oh oops! thanks hopefruit! I went to whitehouse.gov and the live streaming wasn’t up so i thought i was too late, now i see i was too early!
the info i am seeing on twitter looks positive.
Womenās health as political football: the game goes on without us
by Kay
I understand President Obama is going to announce an āaccommodationā to the demands of the Catholic Church and media regarding US health care. Iāll wait and see what he says, and if I have time today Iāll try to figure out how this accommodation might affect me and mine. I donāt know that Iāll be around at 11 for the announcement.
Iām not really surprised heās compromising. The church planned the political campaign 7 months in advance of the (alleged) āfirestormā, so there was always an end game here.
I am grateful to him for making the public health argument on my behalf. As far as Iām concerned, he was the only person operating out of a genuine concern for womenās health, rather than treating womenās health as a political football or proxy for some other, unrelated, larger moral or political crusade.
He did his job, and he acted in good faith, which is more than I can say for the bishops and their multi-millionaire media mouthpieces. On that, I have to say, I havenāt seen the multi-millionaire cable tv stars and media personalities this incensed in years, back since they were selling the invasion of Iraq. Who knew they were so vitally concerned with limiting access to contraception? Eye-opening, to say the least. Do you think we get them on board to lobby this hard to help working people? Theyāre impressive when they join together and link arms in a campaign like this. I see a lot of potential for good there.
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2012/02/10/womens-health-as-political-football-the-game-goes-on-without-us/#comment-3039779
Heads up everyone:
http://theobamadiary.com/2012/02/10/heads-up-86/
You guys, if you have the chance, please go to Jezebel and comment in their thread on this. Jezebel is a feminist site. And they do tend to be hair on fire emoprogs with no facts. If you could just go there and post a reply supporting the president and clarifying his position, it would be really helpful. Believe it or not, there are still some PUMAS over there, but many people are open minded but live and die by MSNBC. Most of them like the President but are always “disappointed” with him because this is all they hear on tv.
itgurl_29 – I don’t mean any harm but fugg them. The only vagina PO should have to be concerned with is Flotus.
And get this. . . Flotus has insurance coverage and access to birth control. They need to aim their fire at the republicans who wants them back in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant.
They’re lost and willingly obtuse, therefore there’s nothing a person can say to change their minds. The more you talk to them, the more crazy you become. Then they go on their merry way, while you’re left wondering what just happened to your brain cells.
I refuse to allow the right to shake my confidence in the fact that PBO will do the right thing for all Americans. That’s how strong my faith is in his ability to govern fairly. I can always tell when the republicans are out of ideas because they create another non-troversy, and I’ll be d@mn if I allow them to distract me from the main goal–getting PBO another term in office. IMO, we cannot, must not, allow them to set the talking points and waste our time with BullStank. They want to distract from Congress’s low approval rating, and they want to throw a damper on the good news that is emerging about the economy. The last thing they want the focus on is extending the payroll tax cut and extending unemployment benefits. These are the issues we should be hammering them on via fax, email, Twitter, and phone calls to their offices. If we attack them collectively using these means, the media will take notice. I WANT the GOPers to continue acting out and pushing social issues in a recession in an election year, and I want them to show their behinds to the best of their ability because I think it’s time Americans see that PBO is not the problem- it’s the GOPers.
Word!
right there with you. There is no doubt in my mind who has my back. Come hell or high water. I am committed to having his back.
You and me both! š
Me 4! š
YES.WE.CAN…DO.(Much)More, Together – WE MUST!
YES.WE.CAN, Again…Obama/Biden 2012!
WE CAN’T WAIT/WE CAN’T GO BACK…So, LET’S STAY TOGETHER 2012! š
PRESS ON!
Seems as though Santorum is the new flavor of the month, and I canāt be any happier. Actually I hope heās the GOP nominee, I canāt wait until Team Obama pulls the scab off of Santorumās politics, only god knows whatās going on behind the scenes with this guy.
So now what do the ‘Pubs have to say? I get the feeling that this year’s CPAC carrying ons lacks any real enthusiasm? In ’08 they were energized by the possibility of the White House serving chitlins to dignataries. In ’09 they had the chance to show up in all their finery….tea bags hanging from their ears. In ’10 they had the economy to blame PBO for. 2011 brought the celebration of all those tea bags elected to congress. This year they just don’t have the oomph to seem excited. It’s like manufactored, or a sound track of poutrage.
Thank you all. I’ve been scolded and attacked enough. I wish Chips my very best and all of you at the TOD family.
awwwhhh come on 57andFemale.
You can’t go now. You know how it gets with family. Sometimes things get heated, things get intense and then we are all back together again doing the hard work that needs to get done.
Take some time if you need it but come on back. You are valued. The rhetoric has died down and we live to Press on and support the President another day.