‘we can’t wait’

248 Responses to “‘we can’t wait’”

  1. 17 LunarSea
    January 23, 2012 at 10:52 pm

    missed it by that much! 😆

  2. January 23, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    So my puppy Stewie had his first day of doggy daycare, found a new girlfriend, came home exhausted, and is now snoozing on the couch. Oh, and the clowns debated again.

  3. 21 GGail
    January 23, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    Thanks Chipsticks – I needed a cleansing after that debacle.

  4. January 23, 2012 at 10:56 pm

    Everyone talking about “Newt’s restraint”—quote from Tweety.

    • 23 GGail
      January 23, 2012 at 10:59 pm

      That’s because he knew he couldn’t bully Brian Williams. And that this debate had strict rules about audience clapping. So he had no bully pulpit on which to show out.

  5. January 23, 2012 at 10:59 pm

    Tweety seems to hate Willard. There is a lot of disdain in the way he talks about Willard’s lack of character. Looks like he’s pulling for Leroy…… One thing we can agree on.

    • 25 vero804
      January 23, 2012 at 11:02 pm

      I don’t think Tweety is pulling for anyone on the Repub side. I do think he has a special hatred for Mittens though. Honestly, I go back and forth between who I dislike more – Mittens or Newt. Mittens is shameless, shady, and simple. You can’t respect someone like him. Newt is just a mean S.O.B. It’s hard to decide who to like less than the other.

  6. January 23, 2012 at 10:59 pm

    So, from what everyone’s related, Mitt had a good first fifteen minutes, but then fell back into ODS and didn’t do Newt much damage after that. Good, good. Let them keep slaughtering each other. Newt will be back on the CNN debate. Mittens missed a chance to pummel Newt, all because of his obsession with PBO.

  7. 34 nintendowii10
    January 23, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    I have to disagree with people saying Willard didn’t win. Within the first 10-15 minutes of the debate, Willard laid out the bare facts about Newt’s working at Freddie Mac as a lobbyist and called it influence peddling, and Newt lucked out that there was a commercial break. Willard took the gloves off and roughed Newt up hard and actually had Newt on the defensive. From what I saw, Willard was much more focused for the most part as compared to South Carolina where he was out of it. Unless Governor Voldemort Scott endorses Willard, then Willard wins Florida, proven he doesn’t make any major blunders like he did in South Carolina.

    • 35 GGail
      January 23, 2012 at 11:04 pm

      But in the 4th quarter, Mitt reverted back to his old Slick Mitt “beat up Obama” self and squandered his first 15 minutes. Unless it’s played over and over tomorrow, people won’t remember the first 15 minutes.

    • January 23, 2012 at 11:04 pm

      The question is: is it enough? Newt’s stirring up some dark GOP id, and the base is loving it. In Newt it finds their grubby little prince who will put PBO “in his place”. Mitt can pretend all he wants, but they know he won’t be as convincingly nasty as Newt. And, again, Mitt reverted to his front-runner mindset, and instead of obliterating Newt, shifted back to attacking PBO. He had a chance to go in for the kill, and let his obsession overtake him again. The real tell will be at the next debate. Newt will be ready, and Mitt may have emptied his clip already.

      • 37 FiredUpInCA
        January 23, 2012 at 11:19 pm

        Proving oneself is something that Mitt’s lessers have to deal with but not him apparently. What part of losing Iowa, South Carolina and only winning the state he was expected to win, does he not get? Inevitable is as inevitable does and he is not doing it yet.

    • 38 halo
      January 23, 2012 at 11:04 pm


    • January 23, 2012 at 11:06 pm

      What I think the pundits are saying is that in the first 15 minutes, Willard brought down Leroy but he never went in for the kill. He bruised him up but did not have the guts to finish it off. Then after the first 15 minutes, he lost his mind and went back to being Stupid Mitt talking bout ‘self-deportation’ and other bullshyte, so he started off well and went downhill from there. I don’t think this debate will have a huge impact mainly because I heard it was boring bullshyte. Leroy may lose a few points, but I don’t think it will help Willard much.

      • January 23, 2012 at 11:45 pm

        Lisa, your comment has just crystalized what Mittens is. “He bruised him up but did not have the guts to finish him off.” Yes, folks, at heart Mittens is a weak coward. He came out of his shell a bit tonight, but retreated to what was comfortable because in the end he didn’t have the courage to stick the knife in. He’s always had “people” to do that for him. You don’t win presidential politics by drone attacks; you win them by face-to-face, hand-to-hand combat, and that’s something for which Mitt just doesn’t have the cojones. Newt also doesn’t have the balls for it unless he has the crowd whooping it up, but Willard is even more pathetic. Neither of them will fare well against PBO in the general.

    • 42 vero804
      January 23, 2012 at 11:13 pm

      I can see what you are saying and time will tell. Mitt did go hard at him in the beginning. But then they just went back into their corners and talking points and I think it’s easy to forget those first 15 minutes. Romney is reluctant to go hard, so after he got all his attacks out, he was done. If I were him I would’ve continued weaving the attacks into my responses.

      He’s much more comfortable going at the president, that much is crystal clear.

      • January 23, 2012 at 11:40 pm

        You know why he’s more comfortable going after PBO? Because PBO isn’t responding, as Mitt, much to his chagrin, isn’t the nominee yet. If Mitt somehow manages to get the nomination, he will wilt under the Obama campaign’s daily attacks. If he thinks Newt’s barrage is bad, that’ll be nothing compared to the smouldering ash pile he’ll be after PBO gets done with him. If, you know, he actually wins the nomination. Which is far from a sure thing now, if it ever was to begin with.

        • January 24, 2012 at 12:00 am

          I’m caught between laughing my ass off and feeling sorry for that dimwit when I start imagining PBO biting back!! Hahahahahahaha! 😆 what a schmuck! I imagine hapless whimpers and quite a few mewlings. 🙂

        • 45 nospin
          January 24, 2012 at 8:11 am

          “You know why he’s more comfortable going after PBO? Because PBO isn’t responding”

          Tell it like it is why don’t you. This this and this.

      • 46 TrumpDog
        January 24, 2012 at 8:00 am

        He’s much more comfortable going at the president, that much is crystal clear.

        That’s because the president is not there to refute his bullshit lies.

    • 47 pinkbunny
      January 23, 2012 at 11:34 pm

  8. 48 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
    January 23, 2012 at 11:03 pm


  9. January 23, 2012 at 11:04 pm

    whew. Just got out of the shower after that debate…..
    to a beeyootiful photo of my president.
    Thanks Chips!

  10. 50 collegekay
    January 23, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    That is the last GOP debate I’ll probably watch. After watching them, it just puts me in a sour mood.

    • 51 GGail
      January 23, 2012 at 11:09 pm

      Do like POTUS collegekay – dust it off your shoulders and move on 😀

      • 52 isonprize
        January 23, 2012 at 11:11 pm

        CERC, CERC, You need the Chica Emergency Response Click!!! It’s up in the top right corner. ———-^^^^ Yeah, up there

      • 53 DreamChaser57
        January 24, 2012 at 1:56 am

        we need another quick video/CERC – the one with the president dusting his shoulders off, it’s light-hearted and hysterical

    • January 23, 2012 at 11:10 pm

      Wow old Howard Fineman took the words out of my mouth, that Newt isn’t very good when he isn’t under attack. Also, he isn’t that good without the rabid applause from the audience. I am glad that they did not have that tonight. That must have been one of the rules going into this debate. BTW, who is this Wendy Schiller on Lawrence? I haven’t seen her before.

    • 57 hopefruit2
      January 23, 2012 at 11:12 pm

      I hear ya – but don’t fret collegekay! Tomorrow at this time we will be inspired by our President’s address. It will be uplifting, hopeful and energizing..not cynical, depressing and demoralizing like the Republican debates.

      I’m looking forward to tomorrow’s SOTU address 🙂

      January 24, 2012 at 9:31 am


  11. 59 vero804
    January 23, 2012 at 11:10 pm

    EDP4BHO, I responded to you all the way back on the “Sandblasters” thread.

  12. 60 FiredUpInCA
    January 23, 2012 at 11:11 pm

    Palin, defending Gingrich, goes after Christie

    “Sometimes if your candidate loses in just one state along this path…you kind of get your panties in a wad and you may say things that you regret later and I think that that’s what Chris Christie did,”

    She calls Christie’s statement on “Meet The Press” yesterday that Gingrich is an “embarrassment” to the Republican party a “rookie mistake.”

    Palin said Christie showed an inability to deal with the media, and a “lack of self-discipline.”

    Palin also revitalized a story from last spring, when Christie took a helicopter to his son’s baseball game. “Some people may say, ‘Well, that sort of embarrassed your party, Chris,'” she said.


    Speaking of deathknell advocates…

    Former Senator Fred Thompson endorses Newt Gingrich for President.

    Please take a moment to examine the sorry state of the Republican party in the 21s century as reflected in these names Gingrich, Romney, Santorum, Paul, Pallin, Christie, Thompson.

    • 61 vero804
      January 23, 2012 at 11:15 pm

      Sistah Sarah is off the hook wild. I swear she just wants to lob bombs from her bunker all the way up in Alaska. I’ve never seen anyone like her. Grade A shit-talker.

    • January 23, 2012 at 11:28 pm

      I am sure Christie will respond to Sista Sara at some point. Boy, there is a whole lot of infighting in the republican party. All of their dirty laundry is playing out for the world to see. 🙂

    • 63 susanne
      January 23, 2012 at 11:36 pm

      of course, nothing embarrassing about a former governor of the state of alaska and former candidate for vice president of the united states saying, to the press, ‘you kind of get your panties in a wad.’ i’d be embarrassed for her, but i’m too revolted.

    • January 24, 2012 at 1:00 am

      It’s pretty rich that Palin is saying that Christie showed an “inability to deal with the press”. She who couldn’t name what newspaper she reads…?

    • January 24, 2012 at 7:31 am

      The hypocrisy of Sarah Palin criticizing anyone for a lack of self-discipline leaves me speechless. This woman can’t discipline her thoughts, the word salads coming out of her mouth, her blind hatred of PBO, her clothes, her wigs, her timing, her nasty temper, or her unruly children. She can’t conduct an interview without saying something profoundly, jaw-droppingly stupid. And she has the utter gall to lecture someone else. Unbelievable. Christie is a loud-mouthed bully, but I would love you see him give Tundra Sarah a swipe that would knock her on her rear.

    • 68 TrumpDog
      January 24, 2012 at 8:04 am

      Palin said Christie showed an inability to deal with the media, and a “lack of self-discipline.”


      I can’t believe SHE of all people said this.
      She’s got a lot of nerve

  13. 69 desertflower
    January 23, 2012 at 11:25 pm

    By the way…that video was great:)

  14. 71 isonprize
    January 23, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    Totally off topic. Here’s a story to wash away the stench of the night.

    A midair courtship: Tuskegee’s historic love story

    Tuskegee, Alabama (CNN) — Herbert Carter and Mildred Hemmons had no time for dating in the early months of 1942.

    He was training to become a member of the Tuskegee Airmen, the nation’s first military program for African-American pilots.

    She was the bold, daring woman who caught his eye. At 18, she’d become the first black woman in Alabama to earn a pilot’s license. She had hopes of becoming a military pilot, too.

    Flying was intoxicating. It provided Herbert and Mildred a sense of freedom — to be themselves, to dream big. The in-your-face racism of the segregated South was gone, if only for a while. In the air, the sky was literally the limit.


  15. 75 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    January 23, 2012 at 11:34 pm

    I’ve mentioned a few times a family friend & neighbor who is a Tuskeegee Airman, well, he is included in “The Black List” exhibit currently on display at the National Portrait Gallery


  16. January 23, 2012 at 11:34 pm

    Go Kim Clijsters!!! Up a set and a break.

    • 84 desertflower
      January 23, 2012 at 11:46 pm

      Of course, don’t read the shit in the sidebar:) They are CERTAIN that the President is going to give a big fat pass to the banks….good Lord. What WOULD have happened if he wasn’t elected? The same stuff that got us into this mess…ad infinitum. Honestly. It makes my head hurt. The pics are good though.

  17. 85 pinkbunny
    January 23, 2012 at 11:35 pm

  18. 86 eveingeorgia
    January 23, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    This is long, but oh so accurate. (No source was given.)


    Now, since Obama’s regime, all of a sudden, folks have gotten mad, and want to take America Back…BACK TO WHAT/WHERE is my question?

    After The 8 Years Of The Bush/Cheney Disaster, Now You Get Mad?

    You didn’t get mad when the Supreme Court stopped a legal recount and appointed a President.

    You didn’t get mad when Cheney allowed Energy company officials to dictate Energy policy and push us to invade Iraq.

    You didn’t get mad when we illegally invaded a country that posed no threat to us.

    You didn’t get mad when we spent over 800 billion (and counting) on said illegal war.

    You didn’t get mad when Bush borrowed more money from foreign sources than the previous 42 Presidents combined.

    You didn’t get mad when over 10 billion dollars in cash just disappeared in Iraq.

    You didn’t get mad when Bush embraced trade and outsourcing policies that shipped 6 million American jobs out of the country.

    You didn’t get mad when they didn’t catch Bin Laden.

    You didn’t get mad when Bush rang up 10 trillion dollars in combined budget and current account deficits.

    You didn’t get mad when you saw the horrible conditions at Walter Reed.

    You didn’t get mad when we let a major US city, New Orleans, drown.

    You didn’t get mad when we gave people who had more money than they could spend, the 1%, over a trillion dollars in tax breaks.

    You didn’t get mad with the worst 8 years of job creations in several decades.

    You didn’t get mad when over 200,000 US Citizens lost their lives because they had no health insurance.

    You didn’t get mad when lack of oversight and regulations from the Bush Administration caused US Citizens to lose 12 trillion dollars in investments, retirement, and home values.

    You finally got mad when a black man was elected President and decided that people in America deserved the right to see a doctor if they are sick. Yes, illegal wars, lies, corruption, torture, job losses by the millions, stealing your tax dollars to make the rich richer, and the worst economic disaster since 1929 are all okay with you, but helping fellow Americans who are sick… Oh, Hell No!

  19. January 23, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    Response to Lorraine from previous thread:

    January 23, 2012 at 10:59 pm
    David Gregory, Willard on the offense, Newton Leroy didn’t take the bait; Willard will be on the defensive again. I didn’t understand that sentence at all.


    January 23, 2012 at 11:33 pm
    Willard tried to make Leroy lose control by going on offense, but Leroy didn’t take the bait (lose control) so now, Willard has used up his ammunition by showing his hand. By the time of the TeaNN debate, Leroy will have more polished responses to Willard’s attacks and will go after Willard no holds barred. You know how vindictive Leroy can be. Willard was stupid. He should have paced himself.

  20. 93 pinkbunny
    January 23, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    • 94 nospin
      January 24, 2012 at 8:15 am

      I should not laugh, I should not laugh, I should not laugh, I should not laugh, I should not laugh, I should not laugh, I should not laugh

  21. 95 pinkbunny
    January 23, 2012 at 11:39 pm

  22. 96 vero804
    January 23, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    Krystal Ball, msnbc analyst and Dem strategist is always well informed in delivering her commentary. Kudos to her for that.

    • 97 Lorraine
      January 23, 2012 at 11:45 pm

      She is very good; I like Joy Ann Reid and Jimmy Williams too.

    • January 24, 2012 at 2:06 am

      She’s excellent – I’ve only started watching MSNBC again, so I don’t know how long she’s been out there, but I’m impressed every single time. Very well thought out arguments, and she’s not afraid to speak her mind.

  23. January 23, 2012 at 11:40 pm

    I agree with josh marshall:

    “So what just happened?

    My basic read is that the debate all happened in the first 20 or 30 minutes. Romney was brutal and totally on message, hitting a series of key attack lines where Gingrich is just extremely vulnerable. But then Newt came back and I don’t think I’ve ever seen him quite as on his game as his was tonight. He didn’t get a chance to have one of those Newt explosion minutes. But just for rolling with the punches, finding openings to get right back in Mitt’s face and more than anything playing that frontrunner card which must have driven Mitt to distraction. Watching it I remember thinking, wow, this is a sort of an amazing moment just in terms of political theatrics because both of them really brought their A games, both of which are very different things.

    By the end of the exchange, Romney started to get under Newt’s skin. There were a few moments where Newt almost seemed speechless. He had that moment when he grabbed on to the lifeline of defending Medicare in Florida, which is actually quite a lifeline. But that whole part of the debate ended just as Newt looked like he might be getting wobbly.

    The other big part of the debate is that Brian Williams just played the whole thing so close to the vest and right that he didn’t give Gingrich any opportunity to have a newtplosion. But I’m not quite sure he wanted one. Or rather I get the sense his advisors told him he didn’t need or another or maybe it was time to pass on it. He’s the frontrunner now.

    I think Newt helped himself with the concluding remarks. Mitt’s contribution to conservatism is apparently admirably raising a big family and being a successful businessman. Newt’s story, albeit embroidered, is one of a guy who’s been a professional Movement Conservative for almost forty years. In a Republican primary in 2012, I think that’s the right answer.

    So what’s the gist? This one isn’t as easy to read as the last two. I think both Mitt and Newt did pretty well (the other two were non-entities). But if pressed I’d call it for Newt because he has explosive momentum on his side right now. And I don’t think this was enough to change that dynamic.”


    • January 23, 2012 at 11:48 pm

      Spot on. Nothing shifted. Newt stayed on course. The dark side of the GOP id will just continue to gravitate towards him.

    • 102 nospin
      January 24, 2012 at 8:21 am

      I still disagree. Newt was totally unprepared the first 20 – 30 mins and had no response that held up under Romney’s counter attacks.
      Then what happened was that Romney dropped the fall and fell back into his old debating style of bashing the President in a way that would have voters thinking the man needed medication.

      So Newt really didn’t win anything as he was unable to recover but because Romney had an attack of ODS, turned his back on Newt and left him on the debate field with some lacerations and superficial wounds vs. finishing the job, Newt survived to fight another day.

    • 103 Obama Grandmama
      January 24, 2012 at 4:57 pm

      My thoughts are that Newt did not want to go ballistics in FL as he did in SC. Two different electorates with different personalities. I am not sure the same type of behavior would have worked in FL as in SC. It was also aided in having the audience controlled so as not to give Newt cover for his angry blow up rhetoric. I could be giving him too much credit but won’t know that for awhile yet. Need more debates with him as frontrunner to know for sure.

  24. 104 africa
    January 23, 2012 at 11:55 pm

    Newt, the heralded debater by the MSM can’t perform without his crutch, a rowdy crowd


  25. 109 GGail
    January 24, 2012 at 12:01 am

    MSNBC take on tonight’s debate

    Romney takes it to Gingrich at Florida debate
    Michael O’Brien, msnbc.com

    Romney insisted that Gingrich’s advocacy work on behalf of Freddie Mac — as well as the ex-speaker’s push for a prescription drug benefit in Medicare during a legislative battle in 2003 — representing nothing more than lobbying by another name.

    “If you’re getting paid by health companies … and you then meet with Republican congressmen and encourage them to support that legislation, you can call it whatever you’d like. I call it influence-peddling,” Romney said. “It is not right. It is not right. You have a conflict.”
    Romney’s evening, though, was not a flawless one. He seemed to stumble on a question regarding how he would handle illegal immigrants residing in the United States.

    “Well, the answer is self-deportation, which is people decide they can do better by going home because they can’t find work here because they don’t have legal documentation to allow them to work here,” Romney said, raising eyebrows if nothing else than for the opacity of the concept. “And so we’re not going to round people up.”


  26. 112 pinkbunny
    January 24, 2012 at 12:03 am

  27. 114 ML
    January 24, 2012 at 12:11 am

    I thought this was a very interesting piece. She makes a great point at the end. The religious right was successful at shifting the Republican party because they worked long and hard, year after year on every level of government. Before the far left complain about the Dems, they should try doing the same thing.

    • January 24, 2012 at 1:21 am

      oh WOW! thanks, Awesome video and all true but the Left fights these truths so hard its embarrassing.

      • 116 TrumpDog
        January 24, 2012 at 8:17 am

        They seemed to think pitching a tent in a park changes things immediately. Many of them are not in it for the long haul (as was exemplified with the tantrums they threw after Obama was elected). OWS could have been an effective movement but they did not have a clear plan and targeted the wrong people.

    • 117 nospin
      January 24, 2012 at 8:24 am

      “Before the far left complain about the Dems, they should try doing the same thing”.

      That would never happen. That sounds too much like work.

    • 118 Lovepolitics2008
      January 24, 2012 at 9:52 am

      Amazing video and all the “left” should watch it.

  28. 119 GGail
    January 24, 2012 at 12:22 am

    Good night Chipsticks. Good night TOD family.
    Thanks for letting us play here tonight 🙂

  29. 120 pinkbunny
    January 24, 2012 at 12:32 am

    Can we just fastforward to Nov2012? Better yet, can we fastforward to Jan 2013?

    Good night all!

    • January 24, 2012 at 12:35 am

      Wow. Wow. Just wow. So he didn’t “clean up” his returns. Man, he can’t even do THAT right.

      • January 24, 2012 at 6:56 am

        Yeahhhhh, especially when Brian Williams specifically asked Rob-Me, If there would be any shocking news, that we would be talking about on today about his taxes. 13.9%????. Liar, Liar, pants on fire again 🙄 🙄

    • 123 collegekay
      January 24, 2012 at 12:40 am

      Can someone explain? I’m currently not in school for economics. lol

      • 124 susanne
        January 24, 2012 at 3:56 am

        me neither, kay, but i think most people in his income bracket pay closer to 30% in taxes. and even that is very low compared to years past, or other developed countries. i think it was reported that mite’s assistant pays a higher percentage of income in taxes than mite does. so it’s all about inequality and the free ride the wealthy have been enjoying at everyone else’s expense. plus, when pushed, mite said he thought he paid close to 15%, knowing that was very low. turns out it’s even lower.

    • 125 nospin
      January 24, 2012 at 8:26 am

      I wrote that when Romney said he paid closer to the 15% he meant between 12 and 14%. My gut said 13% but close enough.

    • 126 Lovepolitics2008
      January 24, 2012 at 10:09 am

      I’m becoming more and more convinced that Newt will be the nominee. I don’t see at this point how Romney can recover. Unless some devastating new revelation about Gingrich comes out. But at this point, even if the GOP establishment have something on Gingrich, what would they decide to do? Would they destroy him? Gingrich has galvanized their base…

      No, they are stuck with Newt I think. And they’ll use all their money and their media power to help Newt fool the independants into voting for him. Their candidate is a crook and is unstable? They don’t care that much, as long as once in power he does what they want, that is dismantle the New Deal, dismantle federal agencies, and start another war, with Iran.

      One of the most disgusting things we’ll see in the next few weeks is the republicans who detest and disrespect Newt changing their tune and promote him, spinning his negatives like there is nothing there. Remember when they defended Palin who was so OBVIOUSLY an idiot and totally unqualified for the vice-presidency ?

      The republicans have a hell of a problem though: they’re running against Barack Obama. Just sayin’.

  30. 127 nintendowii10
    January 24, 2012 at 12:59 am

    THIS guy endorsed Newt 😆

  31. 128 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
    January 24, 2012 at 1:07 am

    ZERO SLACK for anyone not supporting OUR PRESIDENT OBAMA. Period.

    #LandslideOBAMA2012 Yes WE Must

  32. 129 FiredUpInCA
    January 24, 2012 at 1:07 am


    “I should tell my story,” Mr. Romney said. “I’m also unemployed.”

    He chuckled. The eight people gathered around him, who had just finished talking about strategies of finding employment in a slow-to-recover economy, joined him in laughter.

    “Are you on LinkedIn?” one of the men asked.

    “I’m networking,” Mr. Romney replied. “I have my sight on a particular job.”

    June 16, 2011


    “Complicated as they are, the tax returns provide only a partial picture of Romney’s wealth. They don’t show the full extent of his net assets, which are estimated to be worth between $190 million and $250 million. Romney has an individual retirement account worth between $20.7 million and $101.6 million, according to his 2011 financial disclosure. He also has a blind trust for his wife, Ann, containing $10 million.”


    • 130 Obama Grandmama
      January 24, 2012 at 5:07 pm

      Thom Hartmann and Ed Schultz both on their radio shows today brought up the fact that besides the Cayman Islands Mitt had money in a Swiss account he closed just prior to 2010 so he could run for Prez. A reason he will not want to release more than 2010 and 2011 taxes. A woman delivering today’s news on Thom’s show repeated the Swiss Bank closing prior to 2010 also.
      Newt had lots of questionable expenses on his taxes concerning flights and such being paid for by his company that are not supposed to be covered.

  33. 131 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
    January 24, 2012 at 1:11 am

    Yes We Can … DO More Together – WE Must!

  34. 132 Alycée (@jazziz2)
    January 24, 2012 at 2:02 am

    That Fred Thompson video hits one of my pet peeves — reverse mortgages!

    Let’s see, how many schemes can the 1% come up with to keep the 99% perpetually poor:

    Reverse Mortgages
    Payday loans
    Pre-paid credit cards
    Rent-a-wheel/rent-a-tire (are you f’ing kidding me)
    Check cashing stores

    there are so many more, but, it’s late and I’m tired… ‘nite all

  35. January 24, 2012 at 3:40 am

    Oh, dear God – 13.9%. Wow, wow, wow. TOAST.

  36. 139 susanne
    January 24, 2012 at 3:44 am

    this is hilarious!

  37. 140 Phil B.
    January 24, 2012 at 4:32 am

    Hello Chips & Associates,
    I’ve only been coming to TOD for the last month. Your site is the best, and the most informative, when it comes to all things concerning PBO.
    I have a hard time understanding the hatred towards the President. Here is a man, whom in his 3 years in office, has displayed a sincere love
    for his wife and family; a deep regard for the well-being of his country; and a commendable regard and passion for the execution of his office.
    And yet, you have in this country, still, people who don’t believe that he is a United States citizen; Who believe that he is a Muslim; Who be-
    lieve that he is responsible for this country’s indebtedness; and who decided, when he came into office, that , all of a sudden, they wanted
    their country back. What that denotes, to me, is that we have people out there, of middle and lower income, who are willing to regress to
    the same policies, in government, that have caused the decline of the American Middle Class; the increase in unemployment; the increase
    in Food Stamps; and the increase in Welfare. Why are these people so vehement? I say to you, that “If Barack Hussein Obama were White
    the problem wouldn’t exist. The haters are willing to hurt themselves economically, to defeat this President. Sounds kind of insane, but I
    believe it’s true.

    So much for the serious. Now, for a lighter note. I would like to know how many ringtones, the Prez has generated. When I first saw your
    video of him singing, the first thing that came to mind, was that it should be made into a ringtone, honestly. The second thing that entered
    my mind, was that he should make it his “2012” campaign theme; “Let’s Stay Together”. Also, If you can get the information, I would like to
    see more on Henry Healy, and Moneygall, Ireland, after the President and First Lady’s visit.

    I love your site. Keep up the good work.

    Phil B.

  38. 141 Renegade522/AuntSis
    January 24, 2012 at 5:25 am

    Good morning, all.
    I didn’t watch the debate. Fell asleep on the couch and woke up to Rachel Maddow – triple yuk!! Turned over to regular news and they are saying that Mitch won the debate. They showed clips of him going at Newt for Fannie Mae contract, being a lobbyist, and speaker-ship ethics stuff. They cut to Newt’s response or lack thereof. It made Newt look like the big fat bully that he is. He was apparently ‘staying above the fray’. In actuality, he is all bark and no bite. I recall before my state of unconscious that Lawrence O’Donnell was talking to one of Newt’s surrogates. He said it was wrong that NBC didn’t want the audience to respond. And so folks, that’s the best they got!! I can’t stand either one of them but I think I dislike Newt the most.

    If I dont get to post again, have a wonderful Obama day!!!

    • January 24, 2012 at 7:06 am

      Yeah and me too. Newt Is a mean, evil, dirty, nasty, snake, with a serious face 😦 He’s lethal, and heartless. I’m trying to understand the state of his mind, when he talks to his God, after saying all these ugly things, about other people 😦 😦 😦

  39. 143 dotster3
    January 24, 2012 at 7:15 am

    Oh ugh—-Santorum is a Big Fail in trying to defend responding with a smile to the crazy lady who said PBO was an “avowed Muslim” and wasn’t legally qualified to be president. He keeps saying it isn’t his job to correct such nonsense, tried to say the old lady was leaning on a cane and I guess he thought she’d fall over in a heap, that she might die of shock if he told her she was wrong. Santorum is disgusting.

    • January 24, 2012 at 9:47 am

      Him and every last one of these yahoos. Not just he GOP candidates but also the one’s in Congress. All of them like blowing on that dog whistle. That and they are absolutely terrified of standing up to their base.

  40. 145 Lorraine
    January 24, 2012 at 7:57 am

    Most Popular according to ABCRomney.com

    President Obama 53
    Willard 31
    Newton Leroy 29

    Willard’s negatives up 17% with Independents

  41. 146 hopefruit2
    January 24, 2012 at 7:59 am

    G’morning everyone! I that “State of the Union” is already trending on Twitter – so early this morning 🙂

  42. 147 hopefruit2
    January 24, 2012 at 8:06 am

    I have to disagree with Booman (who I usually agree with) on the issue of Romney’s taxes. Booman argues that it’s no big deal that Romney paid 13.9% on his taxes because he (Booman) knows at least 30 corporations that made more money and paid zero taxes.

    Well isn’t that the POINT? First of all, the corporations aren’t running for President. Mitt Romney is however, and his opponent is President Obama who is trying to correct the very thing that Booman speaks of – large corporations using loopholes to avoid paying taxes, and millionaires and billionaires (like Romney) paying much lower taxes than folks making less than 100K a year.

    So I tweeted Booman and told him that voters DO care because low Romney’s tax rate is evident of the serious wealth inequality that voters are angry about.

    • January 24, 2012 at 8:22 am

      Get this one hopefruit. This morning, I told my brother that Mitt only paid 13.9%. His response: Well at least he paid them. He then says, well look how much he gives away to charity. This is what I put up with every day.

      • 149 hopefruit2
        January 24, 2012 at 8:25 am

        They are missing the point completely with this “well he paid his taxes.” Furthermore, Romney is obviously hiding something by failing to return his previous tax returns. The 2010 return must be his very best foot forward.

      • 150 dotster3
        January 24, 2012 at 8:25 am

        The “charity” that he gives to is the Mormon Church which he gave more to than to America. It’s good that not everyone is as “patriotic” and “loves America” like that.

    • 151 nospin
      January 24, 2012 at 8:30 am

      I hear you hopefruit2. I pay 35% in taxes. If I could get away with paying 13.9% I could actually save real money for retirement. But the downside is that if I didn’t pay, what services or programs would have to get cut? So I suck it up and do my share.

      I don’t have an issue with folks getting rich but if the tax burden was shared in a fair way, I could get a break too.

    • January 24, 2012 at 8:36 am

      If only the “libruls” were so ‘understanding’ with Obama….

    • 153 anniebella
      January 24, 2012 at 9:17 am

      Remind Republicans that their Saint Ronald Reagen ask the question, do you think it is right for a millionaire to pay lower tax rate than a bus driver?

    • 154 hopefruit2
      January 24, 2012 at 9:53 am

      Okay, so it appears that I misread Booman completely – he was being VERY sarcastic with this post. Other people also didn’t get the sarcasm and responded accordingly. I only found that out after I went to his site and read a comment from one of his other contributors who pointed out to a commenter that Booman was being sarcastic.

  43. January 24, 2012 at 8:17 am

    Good morning TOD Family. I am so looking forward to the SOTU tonight. Our President is going to knock it out of the park.

    Please join me in lighting a candle for the success of the President’s speech.


  44. 156 Cheryllou
    January 24, 2012 at 8:20 am

    Hello, this is the first time I’m posting here. I’ve been coming to this site to get the facts and I appreciate everyone at TOD. I was thinking that Mitt Romney paid 13.9% in taxes, we should send President Obama reelection team $13.90.

  45. 158 TrumpDog
    January 24, 2012 at 8:26 am

    Am I the only one that gets super happy when you see an Obama 2012 bumper sticker?

    I saw one yesterday a a Petsmart store parking. It said “Independents for Obama”. Made me smile. 🙂

    That just reminded me to put my Obama magnet on my car. I just did so now.

  46. 165 Lorraine
    January 24, 2012 at 8:33 am

    According to TPM, Willard is giving his own SOTU rebuttal. Governor Daniels is slated to give the actual rebuttal. Willard knows he is in huge trouble, he knows his party wants someone else and Governor Daniels is the one. Thank the Lord Willard will never give an actual SOTU address.

    • 166 TrumpDog
      January 24, 2012 at 8:37 am

      🙄 He’s so pathetic. Rmoney is so desperate for attention and this comes off as being very presumptuous on his part. The GOP AND teabaggers are doing a rebuttal and you know they will all be saying the same thing.

      • January 24, 2012 at 9:53 am

        I’m not surprised Romney would do that. It’s a way to stay in the spotlight. And truthfully I’m okay with it. Because the more people see of Romney the less they like him so rebut away Mitt. I’d buy him airtime if I could but unfortunately I lost the phone number to my bank in the Cayman Islands. Now let’s see what was that again? (782) flim-flamm?

    • 170 anniebella
      January 24, 2012 at 9:26 am

      Who’s carrying Mitt’s rebuttal? Will Newt be giving one too? How about Santorum and Paul. This is stupid, but what else would you expect from Mitt “flip flopper liar” Romney.

  47. 171 TrumpDog
    January 24, 2012 at 8:33 am


    My favorite poster of 2011: twitter.com/eaglewoman59/s…— eaglewoman (@eagleJME) January 10, 2012

  48. 172 TrumpDog
    January 24, 2012 at 8:34 am

    • 173 desertflower
      January 24, 2012 at 8:37 am


      • 174 TrumpDog
        January 24, 2012 at 8:39 am

        desert, did you see the president will be at the Intel plant in Chandler tomorrow?

        • 175 desertflower
          January 24, 2012 at 8:56 am

          Yes. I don’t think that they will let the public go to that, do you? I was going to take my son to hear him speak, now I’m in a pickle….I want to see him!!! What should I do to go see him? I’d go to the airport, but I have no idea what time AF1 lands! You going to try and see him??

          • January 24, 2012 at 9:08 am

            Call the WH operator, they should know time!

          • January 24, 2012 at 9:10 am

            df, have you contacted your OFA regional field director or neighborhood team leader? Or try calling Chicago HQ. I hope you get to see him!!

          • 178 TrumpDog
            January 24, 2012 at 9:17 am

            I don’t think it’s open to the public either.
            I’d love to go to the airport, but -like you- and am unsure of the time particulars. I have kids that I take back and forth to school and need definite times in order to coordinate my schedule.
            I guess I’ll try to find out more today. If you hear anything else, please let me know!

            • 179 desertflower
              January 24, 2012 at 9:46 am

              I’ll try to find something out…time differences and the fact that I have to go to work..doesn’t make things easy! If anyone finds out anything, let us know….my son is chomping at the bit, and is disappointed 😦 I so wish that he was speaking to the general populace!

  49. 181 desertflower
    January 24, 2012 at 8:36 am

    He LOVES AMERICA! That’s why Romney had both a Cayman offshore account AND a Swiss banking account! AND paid 13.9%…..I see.


    I think I mentioned the other day that I wouldn’t be surprised if he had a Swiss bank account….this will go over well. Not.

  50. 182 CTGirl
    January 24, 2012 at 8:37 am

    I especially loved:
    So on stage–a one-term governor; a guy who quit the speakership; a guy who lost by 18 points; and a lunatic.
    — John Podhoretz (@jpodhoretz) January 24, 2012

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  55. January 24, 2012 at 8:51 am

    Another lie from Willard!

    • 191 Ladyhawke
      January 24, 2012 at 8:58 am

      thanks David. The mainstream media sure won’t correct the record. Willard is a prolific liar and too many in the MSM look the other way when he lies or just makes stuff up. I still remember Norah O’Donnell interviewing Newt Gingrich when he called Willard a liar. Norah went straight to the fainting couch. She was so alarmed that Newt told the truth. Actually, Newt is as big a liar as Willard. But that’s par for the course. Lying is the thread that runs through everyone in the Republican Party.

  56. 192 hopefruit2
    January 24, 2012 at 8:51 am

    Well no wonder he can’t release anything prior to 2010!!!! WHAT ARE YOU HIDING WILLARD?!?!?

    • 193 Grab a Mop Grace
      January 24, 2012 at 8:55 am

      “Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”
      Matthew 19:24

      I believe this passage was written for the Mitt Romney’s of the world.
      Lord have mercy on his soul.

      Obama/Biden 2012

    • 195 Ladyhawke
      January 24, 2012 at 9:02 am

      We also need to see Newt’s consulting contracts prior to 2006. Congressman Barney Frank said those are the ones we really need to see. He was on The Ed Show last night. Will try to find the link.

  57. January 24, 2012 at 8:53 am

    FYI –

  58. January 24, 2012 at 8:57 am

    So, Willard, Cain and Daniels are all giving their own SOTU tonite?

    It happens all the time! Lol!
    CNN will talk more about those 3, then the real SOTU!!

  59. 208 rikyrah
    January 24, 2012 at 9:02 am

    Willard thought he was slick…dumping these on the night of the State of the Union.

    From the Plum Line Blog:

    Posted at 07:48 AM ET, 01/24/2012
    What timing: On day of Obama’s big inequality speech, Romney reveals massive income, low tax rates
    By Greg Sargent

    I’m not sure the Obama campaign could have scripted this more perfectly. In a remarkable bit of good timing, President Obama is set to deliver a State of the Union speech focused on income inquality and tax unfairness on exactly the same day that Mitt Romney will reveal that he made over $40 million in the last two years — all of it taxed at a lower rate than that paid by middle class taxpayers.

    The Post scoops the returns that Romney is set to release today, and they confirm what he has already acknowledged: He pays a far lower tax rate than many middle class taxpayers. Here are the key figures:

    — Income of $21.7 million in 2010 and $20.9 million in 2011, virtually all of it from profits, dividends or interest from investments, and none from wages.

    As other tax experts have pointed out, however, Romney may have an incentive to release only these two years’ worth of returns, because he would not have been able to restructure investments in previous returns to conceal things that might prove politically problematic.

    Either way, all this comes as Obama is set to deliver a speech focused on extreme disparities of wealth, and on precisely the element of the tax code that enables his likely rival to pay a far lower rate than many middle class taxpayers — at a time of rising public preoccupation with inequality. As Chuck Todd put it this morning: “If Team Obama could have picked any day to have Romney release his tax return, today might have been the day they’d pick.”

    Romney doesn’t just disagree with Obama on these fundamental issues; he personally symbolizes virtually the entire 2012 Democratic message. He is the walking embodiment of everything Dems allege is wrong with our system and the ways it’s rigged in favor of the wealthy and against the middle class. Yet this is the standard bearer the GOP seems set to pick.


    • 209 Ladyhawke
      January 24, 2012 at 9:06 am


      It’s politics as a blood sport with the goal of protecting the wealthy and special interests at all costs. The disgraced former Speaker of the House and the wealthy flip flopping liar governor are perfect representatives for the GOP. We should not be surprised that at the end of the day the choice for Republican voters is an influence peddler and a vulture capitalist.

  60. January 24, 2012 at 9:06 am

    What We’ve Learned From Romney’s Returns
    By Steve Benen, Political Animal

    Mitt Romney’s campaign, as promised, released the former governor’s 2010 tax returns, as well as an estimate for his 2011 returns, and we’re starting to get a sense of why the Republican candidate wasn’t eager to share these details.

    Mitt Romney offered a partial snapshot of his vast personal fortune late Monday, disclosing income of $21.7 million in 2010 and $20.9 million last year — virtually all of it profits, dividends or interest from investments.

    None came from wages, the primary source of income for most Americans. Instead, Romney and his wife, Ann, collected millions in capital gains from a profusion of investments, as well as stock dividends and interest payments.

    By any fair estimate, over $42 million in income over two years isn’t bad for a guy who jokes about being “unemployed.” Indeed, Romney would be in the top 1% based solely on the income he makes in one week.

    Read more:
    Political Animal – What we’ve learned from Romney’s returns http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2012_01/what_weve_learned_from_romneys034953.php via @stevebenen

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  64. January 24, 2012 at 9:11 am

    5 state Tour. Sounds good!

    • January 24, 2012 at 9:12 am

      He’s doing it in just 3 days. Whirlwind jetsetter, for sure. His message will resonate loud and clear after Mitt’s midnight document dump.

      • January 24, 2012 at 9:19 am

        Media blackout! Tweet chuck Todd and ask him if they will cover the President?

        • 219 hopefruit2
          January 24, 2012 at 9:45 am

          No, instead they plan on playing reloops of Herman Cain’s clownish rebuttal to the President’s SOTU speech. Then they’ll turn around and accuse the President’s team of being poor at messaging.

        • January 24, 2012 at 9:47 am

          I’m sure they’ll take the plane ride and talk about nothing but the GOP as they did in Hawaii. Jerks.

  65. 221 Linda
    January 24, 2012 at 9:15 am

    Romney makes $7,000 an hour ?

  66. 224 Squarepeg
    January 24, 2012 at 9:20 am

    Seriously, can we just declare Obama the winner already?

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  68. January 24, 2012 at 9:23 am

    What a fool!

  69. 239 nintendowii10
    January 24, 2012 at 9:25 am

    on HuffyFluffy, the right wingers are trying desperately to deflect from Willard’s tax returns. They’ve blamed John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, continue to demand Obama release his school records. Believe me when I say we should want Willard to win the nomination but to lose to Obama, to bury their “class warfare” talking points for good.

  70. January 24, 2012 at 9:28 am

    found this in the comments at Balloon Juice:

    33.Darnell From LA – January 24, 2012 | 2:19 am · Link

    you are not of the street. Never have been. Daddy Warbucks, just fucking own it already.

    Most people just don’t get how true this is. Willard’s dad was not only one of the richest, most powerful, most respected Mormons in the country, he was also a successful CEO for AMC. (think Lee Iacocca)

    Now imagine Lee Iacocca having been elected to 2 terms as Governor of Michigan, the 6th most populous state at that time.

    How imagine Lee Iacocca running for President, then becoming Secty of HUD in the Reagan Administration.

    THEN, imagine Mrs. Iacocca (yes, mom!) running for the Senate on the GOP ticket! (yes, Mitt’s mom ran for Senate)

    And Willard wants us to believe that being George Romney’s freakin’ son wasn’t a slight advantage in life. Really. Got it, Willard. Being George Romney’s son literally makes George W. Bush look like he grew up as a chimney sweep.



  71. January 24, 2012 at 9:32 am

    In a year where the Patriots are celebrating volunteerism, the club announced today the opening of a “Super Bowl for Super People” online sweepstakes, which is meant to recognize outstanding individuals in the public service sector.

    Ten winners will be randomly selected from a pool of police officers, firefighters, teachers, military personnel and nurses in New England who have been identified as “Super People” by their superiors.

    Two winners from each category will receive the “Super Bowl for Super People” package, an all-expenses paid, one-day trip to Super Bowl XLVI in Indianapolis for them and a guest, including game tickets, round-trip airfare, transportation to and from the game and tickets to the Patriots’ postgame party.


    This is good news for John McCain!

    • January 24, 2012 at 11:12 am

      What a cry baby. It’s not his job to say this lady was wrong because she was using a cane? And gee whiz people do it to him and nobody takes his side. Good grief.

  72. 245 blondegrrl
    January 24, 2012 at 9:47 am

    This was great! I needed the laughs –

  73. 246 LDS
    January 24, 2012 at 10:24 am

    Good morning, all. I know I am very late , but I cannot find my eyeglasses. And I am winging it.
    I was out late last night collecting signatures for petitioners to sign in order to get our President on the ballot for NY state. Yes, it was raining. Yes, it was cold. Yes, the cold rain washed away all the dirty snow. Yes, there were some who said they were registered independants, liberals, and repugs.

    But the one that stood out was the young guy who said that he is a proud 1%and he will vote for Ron Paul.
    That’s when I lost it! I do not know if people mean what they say or they just want to see your reaction. Either way it is very dangerous when you are in the presence of a true Obamabot who has viewed the video at least100 times in four days……at least.
    Needless to say , the conversation ended with his apology and asking for a FREE button……some 1%. Yeah, right.

    So be encouraged TOD family. We will get to the mountain top. This SOTU speech will set the tone for us to boldly take back the Senate, Congress and the gavel.
    Thank you, Tally for the wink. Michelle sure knows how to pick a husband or did he pick her… Either way, I am sure glad it happened. We are reaping the benefits of this union and evening in Georgia, I wish that I had all of that above information. That is all so true. Just what I was saying to that 1% person last night.

    Enjoy the speech tonight everyone. Going out to view with others and it is a potluck.affair. I may just bring a smile.
    Thank you, Ghips for the videos on the side. I referred about ten people to this blog, so the numbers will keep rising to the top!

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