evening all


Charles P. Pierce: ….. Romney has a problem: People don’t like him. Not only that, but the more people see him, the more they dislike him …. Newt Gingrich’s unfavorability ratings in this country at large are whopping … But Willard’s unlikability is of a different sort. It is chronic and general….

…. There is something about Willard that doesn’t connect ….. Willard stopped being electable because there stopped being the faintest reason to vote for him. If you wanted stubborn independence, you had Ron Paul. If you wanted sanctimony, fetuses, and paranoia about Iran, Rick Santorum was your boy. If your biggest thrill in life is to hock a loogie at all of your fellow Americans whom you despise, well, Newt Gingrich always has been there for you, and he’s better than you are at it.

…. If he is to be nominated – and I still think he probably will be – Willard Romney will be nominated by a party that would move en masse to the other end of a subway car rather than listen to him talk any more. At the convention, we will be treated by the least spontaneous “spontaneous demonstrations” in the history of the Republic. By the third day, they might have to bribe people just to fill the hall.

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Michael Tomasky: Newt won by hatin’ on the black guy and the liberal media. He hated on them expertly. He fired synapses in conservatives’ brains that they barely knew were there ….He won because he expressed and embodied conservative rage better than the others.

….. Exactly why is Gingrich suddenly more electable than Romney? Because, it is said, he has proven that he can debate Barack Obama. You hear conservatives talk, they’re just licking their chops over this. They may well nominate Gingrich not because they really want him to be the president of the United States, but because they want to see him debate Obama…..

….. They want someone who can stand on a stage with Obama and say, “You are our nightmare. You are the destroyer. You are the un-American and the anti-Christ, and I smite you.” For conservatives, it’s personal with Obama. He blinds them with hatred.

So they don’t really want someone who can “beat” Barack Obama, which is the question the exit polls asked. They want someone who can humiliate him in prime-time television, put him in his place, expose him to the world such that all the deluded idiots in this country who still like Obama finally and blazingly acknowledge the truth that has so long been obvious to them…

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189 Responses to “evening all”

  1. 1 GGail
    January 22, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    Good evening Chipsticks

  2. 10 Grab a Mop Grace
    January 22, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    Obama/Biden 2012
    I love my prez!!!

  3. 12 GGail
    January 22, 2012 at 7:10 pm

    Looks like we have a three-way tie according to the time stamp!
    Well what do you know?? LOL!!!!!
    But mine posted FIRST 🙂

  4. 14 hopefruit2
    January 22, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    I’m a Fifth place winner! Now I know Chips MUST have a trophy exclusively for – moi! 🙂

  5. January 22, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    @Ggail your right it does show the same time 🙂

  6. 16 hopefruit2
    January 22, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    That description of Newt’s supporters is so true. All they want to see is a fight where Newt Gingrich supposedly “cleans Obama’s clock” in a debate. Well, sorry to say, it AIN’T GONNA HAPPEN. Be careful what you wish for is all I have to say.

    • 17 utaustinliberal
      January 22, 2012 at 7:37 pm

      Exactly. They don’t seem to understand that while they’re all hyped up on the imagery, independent voters will be turned off because Newt won’t have any policies of substance and PBO will keep touting his accomplishments and offering a vision of a better and more hopeful America while Newt looks like an angry racist muffin.

    • 18 Mel
      January 22, 2012 at 8:33 pm

      so the Fucking racist the only reason they voted for Newt so he can humiliate PBO? WOO and they like
      Newt beccause he humileated the black guy at FOX and humiliated the white guy at CNN is that the only
      reason they voted for Newt? WTF? I wonder if the same idiots watched how PBO beat and humilieted the
      hero John McSane on the debates on watching Newt’s Victory speech on Saturday he said NOTHIG
      other than pure garbage I wonder how fucking ignorant stupis those people are? I rest my case PBO will
      be re-elected big time just watch.

    • 19 anniebella
      January 22, 2012 at 9:40 pm

      Someone need to ask these hate fill retards if they remember when this young President who was barely in office went and meet the Republicans on their own tuff, and this President had a debate with many Republicans, who made comments, ask questions, and when it was over, President Obama wipe the floor with those guys. He had the Republicans wishing they never had agreed to do it. So let the racists think Newt can wipe the floor with President Obama. They will see, it their racism haven’t blinded them.

    • 20 gn
      January 23, 2012 at 1:45 am

      POTUS is one of the most self-possessed people I’ve ever seen. No two bit sanctimonious opportunistic grifter like Newt is about to humiliate him in this lifetime…but the GOP primaries are hilarious!!

  7. 21 yardarm756
    January 22, 2012 at 7:22 pm


  8. 22 donna dem 4 obama
    January 22, 2012 at 7:22 pm

  9. January 22, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    I haven’t watched any of the debates. I just watch the fun on twitter. Can someone help me out here and explain exactly why it is that the Republicans are so certain Gingrich can win a debate with President Obama? I mean I know that Fox will *say* Gingrich won every debate, but how does he actually win? I don’t get it.

    • January 22, 2012 at 7:28 pm

      I was wondering the same thing

    • January 22, 2012 at 7:33 pm

      I haven’t watched either but from what I gather, Gingrich spews empty-headed BS rhetoric like an academician with conviction. He constantly touts himself as professorial with a command of history. But in reality, he’s a mean liar who relies on demagoguery to incite his base. PBO will have no problem unveiling his charade if it ever gets that far.

    • 33 donna dem 4 obama
      January 22, 2012 at 7:33 pm

      Because the bar was set so low by the other clowns in the clown car our lazy, sloppy media feels that because Gingrich can speak in a coherent sentence about policy that he should be crowned the king of debate.

      PBO will eat his lunch. Full Stop!

      • 34 hopefruit2
        January 22, 2012 at 7:39 pm

        Good. Let them continue with this nice little delusion of grandeur. Let that ugly, nasty arrogant “Lincoln-Douglas” narcissist fool himself into thinking that his debating Obama will be in the same category of those CSPAN debates he had with Herman Cain.

      • January 22, 2012 at 9:15 pm

        because Gingrich will be just a rabid…just as uncouth…just as disrespectful…as he was during the debates….put the President in his place…….they want him to call the President those nasty dirty things toi his face….

        they hate the blackness of the President …with such a deep hatred…..

        These commentators have watched Newt do his stuff with out impunity…watching from afar…like it is some kind of entertainment…it saddens and angers me at the same time…..

        my fervent prayer is that the Creator keeps our President and his family safe…
        and that he touches the mind and hearts of people….who hate him so..

        • January 22, 2012 at 9:17 pm

          that Should say..

          .they think that Newt will put the black man in his place as he did Juan Williams

        • 37 57andFemale
          January 23, 2012 at 2:39 am

          New will look ‘strong’ and Obama will look ‘weak’, according to idiots like Tweety and Ed Schultz. Obama will actually show some respect for the office and act like an adult. Is there anyone in punditry who would have the courage to call a racist moron a racist moron?

          Hey, Newt is a genius at grabbing the next day’s news cycle. We need a legion of robust spokespeople who will frame Newt as the hate-filled pompous ass that he is. Obama can’t swing at him the same way — the campaign and the DNC are going to have to be the muscle.

    • 38 Linda
      January 22, 2012 at 7:35 pm

      They think that being nasty is a win !

    • 39 vero804
      January 22, 2012 at 7:41 pm

      The Tomasky piece above explains why they think Gingrich can beat the president in a debate. He’s nasty and disrespectful…and that’s what they want to see. If he sufficiently belittles and embarrasses the president in a debate, he “wins.”

      • 40 Britt
        January 22, 2012 at 8:00 pm

        Newt is very nasty. He would call President Obama, boy, and many more nasty racially charged phrases he can think of in a debate. Newt’s nastiness is what the GOP base likes.

        • 41 Mel
          January 22, 2012 at 8:46 pm

          Newt has no integrity, no morals and he does not give a shit about people that are working hard
          to make a living unlike he. Hea has live off the tax payers for many years and now he is a milionare.
          Talking about family values this guy is the least person on earth that has any values at all. acn any
          women in this country vote for this garbage guy? well NOt the weman in my family and neitther would

        • 42 DreamChaser57
          January 22, 2012 at 9:52 pm

          I do not think Newt will go that far, perish the thought. Not because he is not vile – but because the general debate elections are a grander stage. Anytime someone has been groomed in a circus -driving in a car full of clowns-speaking to audiences where the hatred is palpable, where people are blinded by their rage and irrationality, Newt can have a presence in that room – he appears almost intelligent in such a place, courageous, un-touchable – but bacteria flourishes in dark, moist places. PBO is the consummate strategist, and like in the martial arts, he uses his opponent’s negative energy, anger against them – in the end they inevitably appear flustered and inept. Donald Trump, who was once revered, is now seen as an absolute joke. PBO smiled politely, coyly and handed him such a butt kickin’ at the WH Correspondents’ dinner. The lesson that is so instructive for me, the lesson that PBO embodies is that anyone can still flourish in the presence of hatred, fear, racism….

          • 43 hopefruit2
            January 22, 2012 at 10:06 pm

            You are absolutely right DreamChaser. PBO is so deft at handling his opponents that he leaves them scratching their heads wondering WTH…some 12 hours after the fact.

        • 44 nospin
          January 23, 2012 at 8:15 am

          but that is where folks are taking a wrong turn. In this Land of the tea bagger/ firebagger/fauxgressive/Gopper Make Believe, the President does not talk back.

          In reality, he does and he like most AA’s will thrive in this environment. Why? Because this shyte ain’t new and it isn’t 1955.

          Most AA’s are under no illusions with this type of mentality. What folks with the mentality embraced by Newt will realize is that when they attempt to address a real life “blah” that isn’t paid by Faux Noise (I am looking at you Juan) there is no turning the other cheek.

          I would absolutely love this match up. I double dog dare Newt “the Mankini” Gingrich to call PO a boy to his face or attempt to take on a condescending tone. I triple dog dare him. At this point in time Newt is the face of this country’s horrible past. This would actually be cathartic. This is an opportunity for PO to deal a substantial blow to racism and help deal the beast that feeds the under belly of the small percentage of this group of the ignorant racist population a deathly blow. This time the American people of all racial and socioeconomic backgrounds will have a tremendous opportunity to right the wrongs of the past and speak out in unison with their dollars and most importantly their votes. Now is the time. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to answer the call and move this nation forward.

          This is a guarantee that Dems will sweep both the House, Senate and the White House in 2012. The GOP is doing a great job in ensuring that the Dems get out the vote. WE will crush them. This strategy is a great way to ensure that there will never be another Republican majority in DC for decades.

    • 45 Dudette
      January 22, 2012 at 8:00 pm

      He’s adept at the snarky comeback. They see that as a debate skill.

    • 46 Britt
      January 22, 2012 at 8:07 pm

      Newt is an angry debater, that likes to drop phrases or sentences that get a warm reception from his audience. He attacks the moderators verbally, and the moderators never call him out on it. Mitt is not a great debaters to me either. He tends to rarely answer questions, and gives his programmed answers about POTUS.

      • January 22, 2012 at 8:18 pm

        He’s basically the guy who delivered the modern Republican Party as we know it. In other words, a big bag of hot inflammatory air.

        • 48 Pamela
          January 22, 2012 at 9:09 pm

          No one on this Earth can demean or humiliate Barack Obama, unless he were to allow it. PBO is the President of the United States of America. Why should he allow it? He will not. If anything, the attempt to demean or humiliate will only come back on the perpetrator, and it will not be pretty, however, it will be deserved. The whole world will be watching, very closely.

          • January 22, 2012 at 10:03 pm

            Personally, I think Barack Obama is bigger than the presidency – that’s why whatever happens in the fight for the presidency won’t demean him. He’s been exceptional all along. The Office is just one vehicle for him to accomplish the things he wants to accomplish, and when he’s done with that, he’ll go on to do something else. The only things that Gingrich can demean is himself, and the American people.

            • 50 nospin
              January 23, 2012 at 8:19 am

              “I think Barack Obama is bigger than the presidency. He’s been exceptional all along. The Office is just one vehicle for him to accomplish the things he wants to accomplish, and when he’s done with that, he’ll go on to do something else. The only things that Gingrich can demean is himself, and the American people”.

              theo67 well said. Worth repeating.

    • January 22, 2012 at 9:34 pm

      Dumb people think Newt is smart. Therefore, he will intelligently humiliate the President. South Carolina is LAST in education. I know I keep saying that, but …….

      • 52 nospin
        January 23, 2012 at 8:22 am

        “he will intelligently humiliate the President”.

        No he won’t. It will have the opposite effect. PO will intelligently humiliate Newt and everyone that subscribes to his type of mentality. Their brains won’t be able to process the fact that PO is in fact more intelligent than they are and they will implode.

  10. January 22, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    hey is anyone here having a SOTU party? just wondering.

    • 54 isonprize
      January 22, 2012 at 7:41 pm

      We are have a “team” watch in NW Philadelphia. Plus, we are getting the petitions signed to get Pres. Obama on the Pennsylvania ballot.


      • January 22, 2012 at 7:48 pm

        hold it. what? Why do you have to sign a petition to get PBO on your ballot? is it just how it works there in PA? sorry for my ignorance.

        • 56 isonprize
          January 22, 2012 at 8:00 pm

          Not an ignorant question, at all, A4Alice.

          All states have a process by which a candidate is put on the ballot so that s/he can be voted for. (For instance, Newt is NOT on the ballot in Virginia and Missouri, because he didn’t have a ground campaign good enough to do whatever it took in those states to get him on the ballot. Little Ricky isn’t on the Virginia ballot either!!)

          I can only speak for PA, Just like in the ’08 primary, we have to get a candidate on the ballot. In ’08 there were folks working to get Hillary on the ballot and folks working to get Barack on the ballot. Now in ’12, even though there is no Democratic opponent, we still have to do what the state asks to get a candidate on the ballot. In PA, that means gathering signatures of registered Democrats by county.

          We plan on getting way, way, way, WAY over the number asked for so that there is no question about valid signatures.

      • January 22, 2012 at 9:20 pm

        hey Isonprize….i might see you at that meeting…..<>

      January 22, 2012 at 8:04 pm


      • 60 MTmarilyn
        January 22, 2012 at 8:36 pm

        We are having some folks over, mainly because my husband can’t go anywhere. So I will be online. I am sure there will be afew of us here at TOD watching it together as the TOD family. We’ll see you here Sue!

    • January 22, 2012 at 8:21 pm

      Going to one. Somewhere near. I dont know the folks giving it but it should be fun.

    • 64 Judith Fardig
      January 22, 2012 at 9:44 pm

      We have a neighborhood team watch party in Tigard, OR and will also do some phone banking for Democrat Suzanne Bonamici. We HAVE to keep that seat in the D column!

  11. 65 jacquelineoboomer
    January 22, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    That Romney sign reminds me of an old Ziggy cartoon. There’s a map with two “X” marks on it, which Ziggy is looking at. One is labeled “You Are Here” and the other is labeled “Everybody Else is Here.”

  12. 67 GGail
    January 22, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    I agree with Michael T – that the GOP might want Newt to debate PBO because he’s more seasoned as a debater than Slick Mitt, however, no one can hold a candle to our calm, collected, and well prepared President Obama – ask McCain.

      January 22, 2012 at 8:01 pm


    • 70 susanne
      January 22, 2012 at 8:09 pm

      i think they want newt because, if you just look at issues and logic and facts and reality, the weakness of the repug position is glaringly clear. however, with newt, there is zero liklihood he would stay on topic, respond to questions, or otherwise behave like a serious candidate. so it would be entertaining, and at the same time demeaning to the president.

      plus they’d get some juicy sound bites to guffaw over.

      • 71 GGail
        January 22, 2012 at 8:50 pm

        McCain was snarky like Newt – they’re cut from the same cloth. And then there’s New Breed Barack Obama.

        • 72 HZ
          January 22, 2012 at 9:59 pm

          Right GGail. As you well stated” McCain and Newt are cuts from the same cloth.” However, they better walk very carefully because as I have observed President Barack Obama (from reading his books, reading about his personality created and given to him through birth) that being by his father is something to not take lightly.

          As I watch POB, I see traits ( that he and his sister speak about) of his mother, and then I see traits that his grandparents spoke of about his father, Mr. Barack H. Obama Sr., who was a very brilliant, brilliant,man who carried with him at all times a presence when he entered a room and participated in a conversation that left his fellow conversationists weeping for relief. In other words, he cleared the room and their clocks at the same time. It was not wise to mess with Mr. Barack H. Obama, Sr.,

          It only takes the person, the setting, and the level of where you take him, that President Obama will absolutely demolish Newt. We better not even allow these people to think that they can or will play a Juan Williams or John King from Newt on President Barack H. Obama. Not this time. They will have a fight on their hands. You all get my drift? I am not worried at all about Newt trying to demean or take President Barack H. Obama to the shed. It will not happen.HZ

        • 76 Mary
          January 23, 2012 at 11:15 am

          I think Gingrich is more like Sarah Palin. He can put together better sentences, but the content is the same: sarcasm, put-downs, and strawman attacks. He appeals to the same kind of people.

    • January 22, 2012 at 9:01 pm

      I also think they’ve been told that PBO isn’t really smart, that his accomplishments are either flukes or preferential treatment because he’s black (I know, right??), that he needs a teleprompter, that he’s weak, etc., that they really believe it.

    • 83 Pamela
      January 22, 2012 at 9:09 pm

      Exactly, GGail.

  13. 84 isonprize
    January 22, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    In the last thread, Dudette asked “It got me to thinking, how do blind people go about voting? I’m just curious. Does anyone out there know?”

    In Pennsylvania, there have been lawsuits filed by the PA Council of the Blind regarding active efforts to prevent people with disabilities, including blindness and visual impairment, from voting.

    Here is an excerpt from the Committee of Seventy in Philadelphia, PA

    4. Can someone help me in the voting booth?
    If you are visually impaired, physically disabled, or unable to read or write English proficiently, a
    person of your choice can help you vote as long as that person is not your employer, union leader or
    the judge of elections (unless the judge is the only person who speaks the same language as you).
    You can also contact your County Board of Elections in advance to request assistance at the polls.

    The Committee of Seventy is a non-partisan organization conducting a permanent campaign to
    improve the Philadelphia region by demanding ethical conduct of public officials, safeguarding
    elections, promoting government efficiency and educating citizens. If you are interested in
    learning more or volunteering on Election Day, please call (215) 557-3600 or visit

    Click to access 633571726700739361.pdf

    • 85 Dudette
      January 22, 2012 at 8:06 pm

      Thanks isonprize. That’s good info. I have an acquaintance in Florida who lost her sight some years back due to diabetes. She’s pastor of a church in Key West. I was wondering about what she might have to go through in order to cast a vote. Good time to get back in touch.

      • 86 susanne
        January 22, 2012 at 8:12 pm

        don’t know if the rules vary by state, but here in hawaii, they let me enter the voting booth with my mother to help her read or vote or whatever we want to do in there!

        • 87 isonprize
          January 22, 2012 at 8:43 pm

          Susanne, the rules do vary by state. In PA, in we don’t have to show any ID, you just sign your signature. But the precincts are so small in Philadelphia, everybody would know if you tried to vote for somebody else. If it’s the first time you voted, then you need to bring ID. I always have ID on me anyway, it’s never been a problem.

    • January 22, 2012 at 9:47 pm

      This ability to have a “helper” in the booth with you if you are physically disabled or cannot read the ballot has been true for some years. I cannot imagine that even the Republican led voter suppression efforts eliminated these provisions. If so, they could be challenged under the Americans with Disabilities Act. You have to let the Judge of Elections at your polling place know your needs before your vote. Once again, I urge everyone to come to your polling place with a list of names to call in your county if you run into any problems. Always bring a cellphone.

  14. January 22, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    James Clyburn: Gingrich Practices Southern Strategy’s Use of Racist Code Words Perfectly


  15. January 22, 2012 at 7:50 pm

    Newt Gingrich has an over inflated ego. He is not any smarter than a gnat and would be crushed by PBO. But I like it that they are hyping him up to the hilt. I see them setting him for a big fail. With his nastiness must come substance. He will fall hard if he is the nominee and lord knows it will be a giant thud.

    And one more thing. That the GOP hate PBO so much that they are willing to throw out any substantive debate in this country, while the media cheers it on, is a sad day for America. Very sad for a nation that wants to continue calling itself the greatest on the planet.

    • 96 EDP4BHO
      January 22, 2012 at 9:18 pm

      So right you are , africa.

    • 97 susanne
      January 22, 2012 at 10:21 pm

      love the ‘giant thud’!

    • 98 nospin
      January 23, 2012 at 8:29 am

      “That the GOP hate PBO so much that they are willing to throw out any substantive debate in this country, while the media cheers it on, is a sad day for America. Very sad for a nation that wants to continue calling itself the greatest on the planet”.

      A guarantee that there will never be another republican majority in Washington in decades to come. And you are right, it is an embarrassment to the nation. The thing is that there are those who are so “entitled” they don’t recognize or don’t care about the vision of America that they are portraying.

    January 22, 2012 at 7:58 pm


      January 22, 2012 at 7:59 pm


    • January 22, 2012 at 8:33 pm

      I’m with you Sue – I don’t think he can get beat by the Clown Car Crazies ™ but I’m going to work like the dickens to get him back in the WH 🙂

    • 102 EDP4BHO
      January 22, 2012 at 9:21 pm


      I said this right after he received it, and when even he said he didn’t deserve it, I thought just what you wrote. Yes he deserved it enormously.

  17. January 22, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    I’m late to the party but I just want to briefly respond to the issue of emoprog columnist/journos. Dowd is a frowsy, dowdy, sick old woman who acts as though she is a woman scorned. When I read about what she had written on the previous thread, I couldn’t even get upset because I’m so over this emoprog bullshyte. Their crap will only appeal to the crazy left who already dislike PBO and who will never vote for him, just like they didn’t vote for him in 2008. Katrina Vandan Bitch is another asshat. She can go suck it for all I care. She’s trash and so are her books and articles. Van Jones is a black man with an identity problem. He’s had to sell his soul to fit in with the white liburals and wouldn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground. At the end of the day, they don’t matter. They have no power over left of center Dems and Dem leaning indies. The only power this menage of incestuous douchebags have over us is the power we give them. Let’s put them intheir places–in the very pit of a cesspool— and leave them there. It’s like they are locked in a deep, dark well. They want to be heard so they yell and scream and shout. The only problem for them is that no one hears them. Their voices ricochet off the walls and their only comfort is the echo of their own voices coming back at them. No wonder they are so angry and frustrated. They keep screaming for attention and the president keeps moving and growing and thriving. Our best bet is to take a page out of PBO’s book and keep on moving, growing and thriving. Let’s not click on those people’s articles when we read the NYT or Salon or wherever we go to get political analysis. The less clicks we give them, the less power we give them.

    • 104 desertflower
      January 22, 2012 at 8:13 pm

      Love it, lisa. This is perfect, and pretty much the same place I’m coming from. We have no time to hold their hands and babysit their delusions of grandeur. Or their boo- boos and “hurt” feelings.Give me a break. Reality isn’t their strong suit.I’d much rather expend my energy on moving forward, as a country, for the good of ALL people. Screw them, AND their whining. Let’s get to work AND REALLY GIVE THEM SOMETHING TO WHINE ABOUT:)

    • January 22, 2012 at 8:20 pm

      The emo progs have a new home, Current tv.
      They are never on msnbc anymore. Lol!

    • 106 ChristiMTL
      January 22, 2012 at 8:24 pm

      I remember when President Obama went to Moneygall and Dublin….Maureen Dowd was there, giving commentaries…I wanted to puke.

      She is vile…..I read her article and I just couldn’t believe that she called President Obama….”The One”…….Sean Hannity would be proud.

      There’s no difference between her and Peggy Noonan…..none….both hateful and disgusting.

      Great comment Lisa.

      They sure want attention, that’s for sure…..it’s difficult not to react though.

    • January 22, 2012 at 8:35 pm

      Very well stated Lisa! Bravo! 🙂

    • January 22, 2012 at 8:44 pm

      Spot on Lisa. I honestly believe these people are unhappy in their lives. And much more, they know that just by using the first couple’s name will generate some clicks for them. But they do so and they will feel the fire.

      Look at Jodi Kantor. Unless I missed it, I have scanned Amazon best seller list, she has vanished into oblivion. No where to be found on the top 100.

      As for Dowd, she I is a nincompoop. I refuse to read anything she writes, none of it.

      • 110 anniebella
        January 22, 2012 at 10:45 pm

        And the bitch Maureen Dowd problem with the Obamas is what? She haven’t been invited to spend the night in the Lincoln bedroom. Because the Obamas have their own inner circle of friends they hang with. Just what is the bitch problem? Or maybe I need a head doctor to answer that question.

    • January 22, 2012 at 9:58 pm

      You hit it, Lisa. We haven’t got time for the toddlers. There are grown-up things to do to get our president re-elected. And you are So right–they only have the power we give them. Pull out the plug.

    • 113 nospin
      January 23, 2012 at 8:31 am

      I agree lisalovesobama.

      brush the dirt of your shoulders, shake it off your boots and press on.

  18. 114 desertflower
    January 22, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/6d330c028c/newt-gingrich-man-of-many-wives Pretty damn funny, sad, pathetic, hypocritical,true.

  19. 118 collegekay
    January 22, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    I wandered onto Teabagger land and they want Rick Santorum to drop out so badly. They want Newt to have momentum to “crush Mitt.” (exact quotes). I find it hilarious. They’re so clueless. This has become a race as to whoever can say they hate Barack Obama the loudest.

  20. 128 desertflower
    January 22, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    I found it interesting…and a great concept. Bet Newt’s supporters have no idea who Alinsky is. Sounds communist though….


  21. 130 halo
    January 22, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    “They want someone who can humiliate him in prime-time television, put him in his place, expose him to the world such that all the deluded idiots in this country who still like Obama finally and blazingly acknowledge the truth that has so long been obvious to them…”

    This. That is the GOP’s only goal in life.

  22. 132 auni
    January 22, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    I had seen that picture with the President being prayed for–and the place I saw it was on a conservative blog with the heading “The Picture Obama Doesn’t Want You to See’–I’m sure they had some convaluted, twisted thinking behind that. Just read the Newsweek article by Sullivan and thought it was wonderful. Gabby is on my mind–she and Mark, along with our President & First Lady, and Mr. and Dr. Biden, are the kind of folks who best represent what is great about America.

    • January 22, 2012 at 8:46 pm

      I have a 24X36 copy of that picture of PBO and the elders praying for him framed, and it is beautiful. I am sure PBO doesn’t mind anyone seeing that photo. These so-called Christian conservations are nothing but frauds. The fact that they can rally around Newt and vote for him because he throws out red meat is shameful.

    • 136 Dudette
      January 22, 2012 at 8:50 pm

      You mean this one?
      Obama Prayer

      Why on earth would they think he’d be ashamed of having people pray for him? That’s certainly better than what some of the crazies “pray” for.

      • January 22, 2012 at 8:58 pm

        If you open it up to the largest size, it’s really amazing. PBO looks very open and humble, as if he understands what the use of power is all about.

    • 138 yardarm756
      January 22, 2012 at 9:13 pm

      If I remember correctly, that photo was taken before the 2008 elections in Chicago. One of the guys in that pic was a friend of mine that has since passed.

      • 139 Dudette
        January 22, 2012 at 9:18 pm

        Oh sorry to hear that yardarm. I hope seeing that picture isn’t too painful for you.

        I’ve been trying to figure out where it was taken. I’m guessing at a church somewhere in Chicago. The poster on flicker (a120mortar – must be ex-military from that name) says it was taken on July 12 2008, but doesn’t say where. Do you know?

        • 140 yardarm756
          January 22, 2012 at 9:36 pm

          I’m not sure Dudette. Around that time he was visiting a lot of churches and organizations around Chicago. To tell the truth it could have been at Rev Wrights or any other fellowship hall.
          My buddy was a politically active and was all over the place(Chicago Southside).

          • 141 Dudette
            January 22, 2012 at 9:50 pm

            You know what? I thought the guy in the bluish gray with his back to the camera and hand on then-Senator Obama’s shoulder looked like Rev Wright. Hard to tell though. That might explain the caption from that conservative blog (maybe even why the photographer doesn’t say where). Water under the bridge now.

      • 142 Pamela
        January 22, 2012 at 9:19 pm

        The peace, love and goodwill in this photo is tangible, looking at it, it absorbs the viewer’s own Soul. I remember seeing a similar photo from an angle behind PBO. I love this one as well.

  23. January 22, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    Oh My Goodness!

    • January 22, 2012 at 9:11 pm

      Gingrich needs to be up ten, absentee voting started 2 weeks ago!

    • January 22, 2012 at 9:24 pm

      Haha…this is so wonderful.

      I use to be apprehensive of Mitt, until I saw him at the debates, but now I’m positive the president will wipe the floor with him in an debate.

      Now I want it to be Newt, so the president can take his “Poor kids should be janitors” tripe, and make him eat those words.

  24. January 22, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    This is from David Frum, former Bush speechwriter –
    Just started the new Mitt Romney biography on the flight home from Charleston. I was very struck by this quotation from George Romney, then Governor of Michigan, explaining his refusal to endorse Barry Goldwater in 1964:

    “Dogmatic ideological parties tend to splinter the political and social fabric of a nation, lead to governmental crises and deadlocks, and stymie the compromises so often necessary to preserve freedom and achieve progress.”

    Me: So true today, huh?


  25. January 22, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    Well, that worked the last time I did it. 😦

  26. 153 desertflower
    January 22, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    How is Newt going to square this?


    He won’t stop with this rhetoric. It swells his ego too much and goes to his head….it would be ironic if the very thing that he thinks “helps” him…ends his political life. Once and for all.

    • 154 isonprize
      January 22, 2012 at 9:22 pm

      “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” — Mahatma Gandhi

    • 157 Pamela
      January 22, 2012 at 9:24 pm

      I read this earlier in the weekend; as much as I have no time for organized religions, I was very relieved to see they are at least making some effort to hold these abuses in check. After all, they cannot risk letting one or two stupid politicians cause even greater problems in their churches.

      • 158 isonprize
        January 22, 2012 at 9:30 pm

        Pamela, The thing is that both Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich put their religion “out front” Both say that they are Catholic. They claim it loud and proud. Both Little Ricky and Newt’s politics of destruction and their outrageous hypocrisy are on display for all to see.

    • 159 susanne
      January 22, 2012 at 9:46 pm

      this is a good start, but we need to hear more and more public outrage, from the press, from the churches, from trade organizations, educational institutions and on and on. one or two wrist slaps won’t stop gingrich from playing to the basest of the base.

  27. 161 auni
    January 22, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    Yes, I think it’s crazy to say he wouldn’t want us to see it. Who can understand them? What would be the point? In addition, how can Mitt stand up in front of the American people and say the economy has gotten worse with President Obama. I suppose people who follow the Newts and Mitts of the world don’t bother looking things up. When the CBO said that Obamacare will reduce the deficit–where does that information go–right over their heads? I’m just mulling over the wonderfulness of it all. It’s like the husband who says to the wife who has just caught him in bed with the neighbor lady, “Are you going to believe me, or are you going to be stupid enough to believe what you see”.

    • 162 isonprize
      January 22, 2012 at 9:24 pm

      In addition, how can Mitt stand up in front of the American people and say the economy has gotten worse with President Obama.

      If you say something enough times, especially in what passes for “media” these days, it becomes the truth, doesn’t it?? 😎 😆

      Except it’s not funny, it’s pathetically true. SIgh….

  28. 163 Dudette
    January 22, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    Way off topic: I’m watching that French cutie Jo Wilfried Tsonga play in the Australian Open. He makes me smile.

  29. 164 Michele
    January 22, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    Newton Leroy should denounce his money backer… ASAP how can you be CIC when your money backer hates the American military…

    at 5:06 Shelly apologizes for being an American military member in the past.

    Please view in Youtube Sheldon Adelson 7-2-2010.wmv

  30. 167 collegekay
    January 22, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    Anyone watching Former Pres Carter on CNN?

  31. 171 Lorraine
    January 22, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    31% of Gimgrich voters say they will not vote for Romney if he is the nominee.

    January 22, 2012 at 9:45 pm


  33. 178 Cathy from MN
    January 22, 2012 at 9:48 pm

    Can anyone tell me how any person or agency can be so cold as to evict a woman of 101 who has been in her house for 60 years? What has this nation come to when we can’t find common decency? It makes me so sad….

  34. January 22, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    I know votes are already in in Florida, but what will be interesting will be the vote of those who don’t vote early. Does Newt win them?

  35. 181 isonprize
    January 22, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    oooh, oooh, They really ARE self-destructing….

    Gov. Christie: Newt Gingrich ‘Has Been An Embarrassment To The Party’


    • 182 susanne
      January 22, 2012 at 10:45 pm

      very funny to see christie doing a pretzel maneuver. he can flip and flop at the same time!

      warning against newt without actually saying he’s crazy and unreliable and unelectable–merely an ’embarrassment’, like maybe he made a little belch while speaking once.

      ‘sometimes the past is prologue’–very vague and poetic. and, oh, let’s not talk about that stuff in the past. too, too boring.

      welcome to the grown-up repug table, christie. hope you like pretzels.

  36. 183 Dudette
    January 22, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    DWS is coming on CNN to talk about Gabby!!

  37. January 22, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    The Giants game is in OT. Really?

    • 186 anniebella
      January 22, 2012 at 10:57 pm

      Did anyone hear Don Lemon of CNN rip into that racists Newt Gingrich for his phony attack on the media? Don really went after the Newt.

  38. 187 Zekke LyDonna
    January 23, 2012 at 4:37 am

    Regarding Newt Gingrich: Saul Alinsky is code for ‘Jew’ and ‘Communist’. I believe Marianne Gingrich doesn’t just represent the scorned wife, she also represents the Scarlet Woman. Her complaint about not getting an apology falls a little flat. Did she apologize to his first wife? She also married a man with a history of cheating–with her. Did she really expect him to remain faithful to her? Pot meet kettle. The idea that women concern themselves with male infidelity is a popular media narrative. We are more concerned about the attacks on reproductive rights and health care services.

    Nasty Newt Gingrich is a Bombastic, arrogant, entitled, narcissistic bully. His manipulation of hateful, bigoted, homophobic, religiously intolerant, racist code, is intellectually dishonest and calculating. The man is glorious in his pathology. He is the most perfect representation of today’s republican ultra right wing. His meglomania will destroy what is left of the legitimacy of Republican Party. He is the living embodiment of all that is toxic, corrupt, and morally bankrupt in politics.

    He will be Goliath to Obama’s David, even though he will no doubt perceive the situation exactly the opposite.

    People mock Obama’s hope and change mantra, but if you believe change is a process, as opposed to an edict, you can appreciate that we are marching toward a moment of enlightenment and truth–made possible by the Internet. People will have to decide the direction the country will take. One of the things I think people ‘fail’ to appreciate, is that breaking down resistance to change, involves a series of successes and failures. In order for real change to occur, people must change their minds. The repeal of DADT is a prefect example. The President built a consensus in the Military and the Congress. In the end, they really had no choice but to repeal it.

    Barack Obama’s whole Presidency has been a series of ‘teaching moments’. If you think nothing has changed, you are not paying attention. I think the blind anger on the right is proof. The bloodiest battle in war is the last battle before the peace. Everyone is vying for territory. Obama has layed the groundwork. He will spend the next 10 months making his case. He will inform the citizens of this country about all the accomplishments of his Administration, most of which have gone under the radar of the major media, who thrive on controversy, real or imagined.

    I have heard some pundits say ‘Everyone has heard his ideas already’. WRONG. There is a false assumption by some in the political media, that people have ‘heard’ or ”know’. WRONG. Inside the media bubble, the same speeches and policy arguments are heard endlessly, most of the public only get disjointed sound bites, and never enough information to make informed decisions. 52% of the country thinks President Obama has accomplished nothing. Many commentators and analysts, ascribe the most cynical motives to Obama’s every action (e.g. Keystone Pipeline). It is more a judgement of them, than the President.

    Many will see in hindsight, what many of us see already. Barack Hussein Obama will go down in history as one of the most accomplished President’s this country has ever had. When the history is written, and people realize what kind of obstruction he h as faced from day one, they will wonder that he accomplished anything at all.

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