242 Responses to “heads up …. and chat away”

  1. January 18, 2012 at 12:53 pm

  2. 10 dee
    January 18, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    happy birthday to my oldest today!

  3. 13 isonprize
    January 18, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    Got an email from Nancy (Smash) Pelosi. Looks like they are gearing up to take back the house!! Yeah baby!!

    • 14 TrumpDog
      January 18, 2012 at 4:08 pm

      I love her.
      If/when she gets the gavel back, I know I will cry. Seriously, I love that woman and can see why the GOP fears her.

  4. 15 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
    January 18, 2012 at 12:57 pm


    • 16 desertflower
      January 18, 2012 at 1:12 pm

      Correct, Bob 🙂 I posted this on the last thread…

      Yep! Off the rails!

      Boehner Spox Responds To Keystone Shelving
      Brendan Buck, a spokesman for Speaker John Boehner provided the following statement in response to news that the State Department has decided not to go forward on the Keystone XL pipeline:

      President Obama is about to destroy tens of thousands of American jobs and sell American energy security to the Chinese. The President won’t stand up to his political base even to create American jobs. This is not the end of this fight.

      Boner was set to PROFIT from this deal if it went through. The LIE that this was going to destroy 10′s of THOUSANDS of jobs…is just that. A LIE. In fact, his ENTIRE STATEMENT IS A LIE!

      • 18 anniebella
        January 18, 2012 at 1:17 pm

        Le me see if I can remember, who was it that refuse to pass the American Jobs Act which could have mean millions of jobs? Maybe I should email Boehner and ask him that question. Boehner comes back from his long vacation with the same old B.S.

        • 19 anniebella
          January 18, 2012 at 1:21 pm

          Let me see if I can remember, who was it that refuse to pass the American Jobs Act which could have meant millions of jobs? Maybe I should email Boehner and ask him that question.

      • 20 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
        January 18, 2012 at 1:18 pm

        Precisely, df!!


        • 21 desertflower
          January 18, 2012 at 1:21 pm

          Bless you! A Twitter Warrior for TRUTH!

          • 22 desertflower
            January 18, 2012 at 1:23 pm



            Environmentalists note that in December 2010, according to Boehner’s financial disclosure forms, he invested $10,000 to $50,000 each in seven firms that had a stake in Canada’s oil sands, the region that produces the oil the pipeline would transport. The firms include six oil companies — BP, Canadian Natural Resources, Chevron, Conoco Phillips, Devon Energy and Exxon — along with Emerson Electric, which has a contract to provide the digital automation for the first phase of a $9.4 billion Horizon Oil Sands Project in Canada.

            Bill McKibben, a climate activist and co-founder of the group 350.org, wrote in an e-mail that Boehner has received more than $1 million from fossil-fuel companies, “and now we find out that he’s got extensive personal investments in companies dependent on tarsands oil.”

            “He was willing to shut down the government in part to prevent enough time for serious environmental review,” McKibben added. “In any other facet of our public life . . . this whole list taken together would be seen for the gross conflict of interest that it is.”

          • 24 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
            January 18, 2012 at 1:24 pm

            Thank you df!!

            And … a tad bit more truth-to-Boehner ….


        • January 18, 2012 at 3:24 pm

          You are always so polite. 🙂 I just badmouth them. I have absolutely no patience for them.

      • January 18, 2012 at 2:20 pm

        IfI Boehner and his teaparty henchmen had not forced the issue to be decided in February some version of the pipeline would probably have happened after an environmental review and some shifting of its path. The R’s thought they were clever to push the president and it backfired.

        • 28 utaustinliberal
          January 18, 2012 at 4:03 pm

          Exactly. They seem to have forgotten that he bamboozled them last year and went on to have a wonderful Hawaiian vacation. They thought they’d backed him into a corner not realizing as some republicans on the outside realized, that they’d effectively put a death knell on Keystone.

      • 29 Lovepolitics2008
        January 18, 2012 at 3:36 pm

        A republican politician accusing an opponent to not stand up to his base. That’s rich lol !!!

      • 30 57andFemale
        January 18, 2012 at 5:23 pm

        I really don’t like this frame from the Evil Ones — it’s a potent slogan. I’m at work and unable to follow how this decision by the State Dept. was announced — did it have a good, muscular frame around it or did they just say they weren’t going forward.

        I hate when the bad guys come up with a slogan first.

  5. 31 GGail
    January 18, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    Good morning TOD and Chipsticks 🙂

  6. January 18, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    G’day everyone. The sun is just about ready to clear the yardarm so I’m up and at ’em. What news today? How shall I engage the world and encourage some critical thinking/deductive reasoning? Is that even possible? I wonder.

  7. 33 dee
    January 18, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    She is 33, a sahm, and homeschools her two oldest. She and her hubby proudly cast their vote for pres Obama in 2008 and plan to do so in 2012.
    Romney needs to post at least the last 5 years. No doctored tax returns for this year alone. I saw on CNN that 75 % of ptax payees in 2009 were in the 15% bracket . Need more definition of his 15% he paid.

  8. January 18, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    A key Democrat tasked with helping to negotiate a full-year extension of the payroll tax cut, unemployment benefits, and Medicare physician reimbursements says Republicans will have to move significantly off their December demands or all three will lapse.

    “We want to extend the middle class tax cut, we want to extend unemployment insurance, and we want to keep our promise to Medicare beneficiaries that we’re going to pay for their doctors, so they can have access to their physicians,” Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA) told me in a brief interview off the House floor Tuesday. “But I’m not going to support something to pay for that by cutting Medicare or cutting the middle class. We can reach an agreement on these things, but the Republicans are going to have to move.”

    Waxman is the top Democrat on the powerful Energy and Commerce Committee, and a Nancy Pelosi ally who will serve on the bipartisan panel that will try to hammer out an agreement in the next several weeks. He’s also an experienced and well regarded deal maker, with allies on both sides of the aisle and in the Democratic base.

    They can smell the blood in the water.

    Story here: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/01/top-democrat-says-gop-will-have-to-budge-big-time-in-payroll-tax-fight.php?ref=fpblg

  9. 36 nintendowii10
    January 18, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    OK I’m on HuffyFluffy on the thread about the XL pipeline being killed, and right wing heads are exploding. They are sniveling, crying, and this is a sure defeat for them. They were counting on President Obama to “cave” and approve the pipeline and anger environmentalists. They can say “President Obama just said no to jobs” but all Obama has to do is say how the Republicans blocked the American Jobs Act, which would have created many more jobs than the XL pipeline. Checkmate! 😀

    • January 18, 2012 at 1:07 pm

      Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! Fire/Teabagger heads exploding is always the most pleasant of news!

    • 38 Linda
      January 18, 2012 at 1:37 pm

      I am beginning to think Chris Matthews writes HP headlines

    • 39 57andFemale
      January 18, 2012 at 5:27 pm

      There it is! That was the frame I was asking for upthread. Thanks!

      Also, isn’t there some ridiculously low number of actual jobs created by XL? Are more jobs created by green energy, thereby keeping us safe from China (or whatever nonsense Boehner spouted).

  10. January 18, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    The media saying that the Keystone rejection is very hard to explain.
    Huh? It is?

    • 41 nintendowii10
      January 18, 2012 at 1:04 pm

      Of course it is, the media is up the Republican’s asses and the Republicans have no answer, no rebuttal, NOTHING! President Obama outplayed and outsmarted them once again!

    • January 18, 2012 at 1:08 pm

      Refer them to Nebraska.

    • 43 anniebella
      January 18, 2012 at 1:29 pm

      Ask the sorry ask media how hard was it to explain not passing the AJA which could have put teachers, policemen, firefighters back to work. It could have put construction workers back to work, doing work which is needed. I want the media to explain that.

  11. January 18, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    Andrea mitchel did not want to hear the PPP poll.
    She said they are taken online.
    Nope. She lied! That is Zogby!

    • 46 anniebella
      January 18, 2012 at 1:31 pm

      These pundits like Mitchell is so sickening.

    • 47 jeff
      January 18, 2012 at 2:25 pm

      It’s because Obama is heading Romney by 5 points on that poll. She instead prefers to focus on Rasmussen polling which shows her the numbers she wants to see.

    • 48 Bill
      January 18, 2012 at 2:31 pm

      Mrs. Greenspan thinks she and her fossil husband will receive more invitations to the WH with Willard as president.

    • 49 57andFemale
      January 18, 2012 at 5:29 pm

      How does anyone that dumb get the salary she gets? A political reporter who doesn’t know that PPP is a reputable firm?

      I know Chips thinks it’s left-leaning. Maybe it is, but not to the point of bias. Left-leaning doesn’t mean it’s wrong.

  12. 50 dotster3
    January 18, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    Colbert continuing to just make mincemeat out of the Sup Ct’s Citizens United decision and the unleashing of the democracy-destroying Super Pacs in his latest ad: sorry about huff puff link, had best vid:

  13. January 18, 2012 at 1:26 pm

    House GOP wants to pay for the Payroll taxcuts and UE with spending cuts.

    Broken record!

  14. 52 desertflower
    January 18, 2012 at 1:30 pm

    Benen’s take on the pipeline decision


    I’d argue that this is the outcome Republicans wanted all along. The GOP didn’t really want the pipeline; they wanted the ability to whine about the absence of the pipeline. This wasn’t, in other words, about energy production; this was about creating an issue for the 2012 campaign.

    Indeed, Republicans were told this would happen. A month ago, the State Department said an arbitrary deadline, imposed by GOP lawmakers, would cut short the review process, deny officials access to relevant environmental information, and very likely leave officials “unable to make a determination to issue a permit for this project.”

    The GOP didn’t care. It’s a reminder that congressional Republicans don’t want to govern so much as they want to play games.

  15. 54 Pamela
    January 18, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    Zooms in 33rd!

    • 56 dotster3
      January 18, 2012 at 1:49 pm

      I just think this could cause huge problems for Romney, and this news is spreading—-ABC and Daily Beast etc. Is this one of the reasons Romney not anxious to show tax returns? In addition to known tithing, there apparently are previously unknown Romney-donated shares of Bain properties to the Mormon Church—millions of dollars worth in Burger King, Dominos, AMC Theatres among many other lucrative properties.

  16. January 18, 2012 at 1:38 pm


    • 58 Proud of Obama
      January 18, 2012 at 3:01 pm

      Oh, I’m rolling on the floor, Jovie. The media keeps saying Romney has such a well-run campaign.

  17. 59 Ladyhawke
    January 18, 2012 at 1:39 pm


    GOP Blamed for Gridlock as House Republicans Waste Another Day in ‘Do-Nothing’ Congress


    With an extension of the payroll tax cut in jeopardy and millions of Americans without jobs, House Republicans simply refuse to get to work. And no amount of rhetoric can hide the truth from the American people:

    New York Times – G.O.P. in Congress Gets Blame for Gridlock

    In the latest New York Times/CBS News poll, 60 percent say Mr. Obama is attempting to work with Congressional Republicans to try to accomplish something; 27 percent say Republicans in Congress are making the same effort to work things out with the president…

    …nearly half of the Republicans surveyed do agree with Democrats and independents on one thing: Congressional Republicans are not working with the president to make progress on the legislative agenda.



  18. 60 collegekay
    January 18, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    I briefly saw a headline on msnbc that Obama super Pacs are outraising Romney by 2 to 1.

  19. 69 desertflower
    January 18, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    Press briefing starting

  20. 70 Ladyhawke
    January 18, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    New Session, Same Resolutions from ‘No Jobs’ GOP


    While today marks the start of the second session of the 112th Congress, it doesn’t look like House Republicans learned their lesson from a year in the Majority ignoring America’s top priority: job creation.

    Instead of focusing on jobs this week, the GOP is voting on a resolution trying to force America to default on its debt and would destroy jobs—even though Republican Members acknowledge it is nothing more than a waste of time:

    The Hill – House GOP leaders get heat from rank and file ahead of debt vote

    House Republicans want to embarrass President Obama with a vote on the debt ceiling this week, but they could get some heartburn courtesy of rank-and-file conservatives…

    [Rep. Mick] Mulvaney said a number of conservative members are frustrated and plan to express that to leaders this week.

    “I know that I am not alone,” he said…



    • January 18, 2012 at 2:32 pm

      Because it’s always smart strategy to irritate your constituency in an election year. These Republican congressman are political ninnies. They don’t even know how to make it “look” like they’re doing anything useful. Hope the whole bunch of them get defeated. They are certainly giving their Democratic opponents lots of campaign fodder to attack them with.

  21. 72 Ladyhawke
    January 18, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    I wonder if any of the jackals will ask Jay Carney about the Andrew Sullivan article that makes them all look like they have been looking out the window for the entire three years of President Obama’s administration.

    • January 18, 2012 at 1:54 pm

      The hyenas seem to be hung up on the pipeline issue when Jay told ’em he had nothing to say about it. Sheesh!

      • 74 Ladyhawke
        January 18, 2012 at 2:02 pm


        Is there anything else happening in our government and around the world?

        I give up. Why don’t we just have Speaker Boehner and his press office sit in the briefing room and ask the questions of Jay Carney. Send the so called reporters home. I understand the jackals have to carry water for the GOP. But I would rather just have the Speaker ask the questions. It would eliminate the layers.

        • January 18, 2012 at 2:17 pm

          It’s all about ‘gotcha journalism’ I’d say. The hyenas are not looking for any info that will enhance public knowledge.

          • 76 Ladyhawke
            January 18, 2012 at 2:35 pm

            Jay Carney is right. If the Republican are so concerned about Jobs WHY HAVE THEY BLOCKED THE AMERICAN JOBS ACT. The GOP could care less about job creation. The Keystone Pipeline is “Look At That Shiny Object” on steroids. It’s a distraction and nothing else and the jackals are accomplices in the charade. If the review process for he pipeline goes through then the jobs will be created later in the process instead of sooner. There is much that can be done now to create jobs. So why not do that GOP??

  22. 77 desertflower
    January 18, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    Coming to PHOENIX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  23. January 18, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    They recently rescued a third survivor from that cruise ship.
    4 days after crash??

  24. 80 halo
    January 18, 2012 at 1:47 pm


  25. 82 FiredUpInCA
    January 18, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    Romney in a fresh new attack on Newt says Government does not create jobs:

    Romney: “The speaker just the other day at the debate was talking about how he created millions of jobs when he was working with the Reagan administration. Well, he’d been in Congress two years when Ronald Reagan came to office. That would be like saying 435 congressmen were all responsible for those jobs. Government doesn’t create jobs. It’s the private sector that creates jobs. (Note: edited gratuitous Al Gore joke.)

    Read more: http://thepage.time.com/2012/01/18/romney-newt-gets-no-credit-for-reagan-jobs-record/#ixzz1jpxYRf81

    • 83 FiredUpInCA
      January 18, 2012 at 1:53 pm

      In a way he’s right. As governor Romney ranked 47th in job creation. So he’s speaking from experience about a Romney government’s commitment to not creating jobs.

      • 84 martha cargill
        January 18, 2012 at 2:01 pm

        excellent point, I hope he is the chosen one so we can destroy him, I have never seen a man with a more disgusting aura in my life. I can truly say, he disgust me.

  26. January 18, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    Can you hear the dog whistle?

  27. January 18, 2012 at 1:57 pm

    Herman Cain to tape an ad with Stephen Colbert!

  28. 94 dotster3
    January 18, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    Obama campaign gearing up—5 state swing next week:

  29. January 18, 2012 at 2:01 pm

    New Environmental Protection Agency regulations that limit mercury and other toxic air pollution from power plants will not cause widespread power outages, according to the Congressional Research Service.

    “[I]t is unlikely that electric reliability will be harmed by the rule,” the nonpartisan CRS said in a Jan. 9 report first flagged Wednesday by BNA, a trade publication.

    The regulations — which require coal- and oil-fired power plants to install technology to reduce harmful air pollution — might cause some plants to shut down, but the electric system has the capacity to make up for the closures, the report stated.


    Another lie debunked!

  30. 99 a4alice
    January 18, 2012 at 2:04 pm

    hey you guys I just got an email via nancy pelosi c/o dccc it’s called the “red to blue” campaign.


  31. 102 desertflower
    January 18, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    April whatever her name is …is asking about ALL THESE THOUSANDS OF JOBS FROM THE PIPELINE! April….hello??? ANybody home?????

    • 103 symmetry11
      January 18, 2012 at 2:26 pm

      Sent her a tweet asking her to point me to the evidence that shows that the pipeline will provide thousands of jobs?? Will we see how/if she responds.

      • 104 desertflower
        January 18, 2012 at 2:48 pm

        Thank you:) I never usually get to hear these daily briefings because I’m at work. I’m home sick today, so I’m hearing this. It is apparent to me that these “reporters” have absolutely NO idea how to do their jobs, they have no grasp of the facts or the issues, and they DON’T LISTEN! They rob the American people of facts that we all need to make intelligent choices. The fact that they all work for GOP loving corporations, and fear for their jobs…doesn’t help AT ALL. SO apparent today. If I was Jay, I’d go back to my office and bang my head on the table.

        You may want to Tweet her the FACTS about the number of jobs that would happen with this pipeline…look at the posts from Bobfr’s Tweets and my post from ThinkProgress….Thanks, symmetry:)

        • January 18, 2012 at 3:03 pm

          Desertflower, did you see that our President is coming to Arizona right after the State of the Union! I am so excited (can you tell?). I think I would sell my soul to the devil to be able to see him up close and shake his hand.

          • 106 desertflower
            January 18, 2012 at 3:24 pm

            I SAW!!! I am SO THERE! Been calling around and no info yet. I think that we should all meet up. What do you say? If you find anything out, please post…as will I. I called AZ Dems..they don’t know anything yet. Called the DNC…no answer…WTH?

            • 107 desertflower
              January 18, 2012 at 3:25 pm

              President Barack Obama will be making a stop in the Phoenix area next week, according to the Arizona Democratic Party.

              The president’s trip across the country starts Wednesday, Jan. 25, in Arizona.

              The night before, the president will deliver his annual State of the Union address.

              More details on his trip are expected later this afternoon.

              Stay with KPHO.com and CBS 5 for the latest on this developing story.

              Later this afternoon!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep checking:)

          • 110 susanne
            January 18, 2012 at 4:44 pm

            actually, i think it’s the angels who give out those tickets…

  32. 111 boxman15
    January 18, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    Seeing Obama come out and cut the Keystone XL pipeline reminded me yet again, as if I need reminders, that this man is THE man for the job. I’m convinced people will look back on the Obama presidency post-2017 with fondness, and historians will judge him very kindly.

  33. 117 desertflower
    January 18, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    Newt drank the Paulite wine…http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/updates/4222

    Gold standard!!!!

    • January 18, 2012 at 2:18 pm

      Can you imagine finding 3.5 trillion dollars for the federal budget, every year?
      It’s just a backdoor, to get rid of federal government completely!

  34. 119 Dakota
    January 18, 2012 at 2:19 pm

    Did anyone see this crap??? Arianna thinks Michelle should visit South Central!!!!


    • 120 JoJothecat
      January 18, 2012 at 2:44 pm

      Who the hell needs advice from that witch. If she knows so damn much how come she didn’t know her husband of numerous years was gay (not that there’s anything wrong with being gay)? She obviously isn’t in tuned with her OWN life than to try to impose what SOMEONE ELSE SHOULD DO…give me a break.

  35. 122 halo
    January 18, 2012 at 2:31 pm


    • January 18, 2012 at 2:37 pm

      Pelosi has a news conference on cspan 2 in a couple moments!
      Democrats all over tv today, Impressed!

    • 124 anniebella
      January 18, 2012 at 2:39 pm

      I was watching the daily briefing, and kids ask better questions than these reporters. I thought they were never stop asking about the pipeline. Even though Jay answer the question, they keep bringing it up. He straighten the bastards out when he told them about the AJA and Republicans refusing to pass that.

  36. 127 anniebella
    January 18, 2012 at 2:34 pm

    Why don’t Arianna go to South Central? Better yet why don’t she go to South America and stay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 128 Bill
      January 18, 2012 at 2:38 pm

      Arianna is as relevant as the half term governor with the same values, money and fame.

    • January 18, 2012 at 2:41 pm

      Why doesn’t Ariana go for a long walk off a short Pier?

      • 130 meabloom
        January 18, 2012 at 2:58 pm

        I personally think she should go play in traffic on Interstate I-95. She is so inappropriate and irrelevant.

        • 131 Pamela
          January 18, 2012 at 3:51 pm

          I-5 is a nice slippery mess today, that would be an exciting place for her. I admit, I have never really watched or listened to her, only on the odd occasion… She never made any positive impression on my way of thinking!

      • January 18, 2012 at 3:40 pm

        Not too much in favor of this ’cause she’d foul the water and kill any aquatic life.

    • 133 halo
      January 18, 2012 at 2:41 pm

      What happeend to Arianna? All she wants is the money. It’s why she puts up inflammatory headlines and is steering her way into being “non-partisan” website. It’s why she bought AOL.

      • 134 JoJothecat
        January 18, 2012 at 2:47 pm

        I believe AOL bought HuffnPuff and by now they are damned sorry they over paid her for that pos.

        • 135 Bill
          January 18, 2012 at 2:52 pm

          I think they paid her $300 milion in cash, which means, depending on taxes, she may be worth more than Willard. Bad investment I would think.

    • 136 Dakota
      January 18, 2012 at 2:42 pm

      I effing hate it when white people like her have the gall to try and tell black folks how to conduct themselves!!! This cow is insinuating that Michelle isn’t black enough. I guess coming from the Southside of Chicago doesn’t count! Sorry I insulted cows, but I’m steamed!

      • 137 meabloom
        January 18, 2012 at 3:03 pm

        There is no such thing as being not black enough. Arianna is just stupid as the dickens. It’s not your actions or speech that make you black. You are what you are because of what the creature made you. Who has the right to say how one race should act?? As long as you act human than that is what should count.

      • January 18, 2012 at 4:27 pm

        Dakota, Arianna has got a lot of hate in her combined with an overweening sense of her own importance. Michelle Obama can flick ten Ariannas off her shoulder in one minute and not even notice. She isn’t worth the time it takes to read her rants, which is why I don’t go there.

    • 139 nathkatun7
      January 18, 2012 at 6:20 pm

      Even better, Anniebella, she can go back to Greece and help out because Greece has been going through some rough economic times. Just imagine what a fraction of her multimillion wealth could do for poor Greeks!

  37. 140 Ladyhawke
    January 18, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi press conference is up next on CSPAN2. Should be starting shortly……

  38. January 18, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    January 18, 2012 1:55 PM

    Romney’s tax rate is only half the problem
    By Steve Benen

    In the wake of his concession yesterday that he pays a lower tax rate than much of the American middle class, Mitt Romney has renewed discussion about his “15% problem.” As Alec MacGillis put it, “The country is going to spend much of the next year talking taxes. And leading one side of the debate is going to be a silver-templed exemplar of how inequitable the system has become. Again: is this really the man Republicans want for this moment?”

    But as I’ve been arguing for a few weeks, it’s only half the problem.

    To be sure, the fact that Romney, who amassed a vast fortune as head of a vulture-capitalist firm, is able to take advantage of tax loopholes to pay a lower rate is a political nightmare. In a debate over tax fairness and income inequality, Romney is practically a case study for What’s Gone Wrong.

    But the second part of this is more forward-looking: what does Romney intend to do about the problem if he’s elected? As Greg Sargent reported today, citing a new analysis by Citizens for Tax Justice, Romney has no interest in correcting a wrong — rather, he intends to give himself an enormous tax cut.


  39. January 18, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    Presidents That Deserved Reelection
    by BooMan
    Wed Jan 18th, 2012 at 11:57:24 AM EST

    As we begin to contemplate the prospect of a second term for President Obama, I think it is important to reflect back on all our post-war presidents. We’ll discover that the presidency isn’t an easy job and most of our presidents have been grotesque failures. In recent years, historians have been trying to rehabilitate Harry Truman’s performance in office, but he didn’t run for a second term in 1952 because he had gotten us mired in an unwinnable war in Korea and the people had turned decisively against him. JFK didn’t live to seek a second term. Lyndon Johnson didn’t seek a second term in 1968 because he had gotten us mired in an unwinnable war in Vietnam and the people had turned decisively against him. Richard Nixon won a second term but was forced to resign in disgrace. Jimmy Carter was pretty much a failure on every level and had to fight to even be renominated by the Democratic Party. Ronald Reagan’s second term was marred by scandal, a collapsed stock market, and senility. He staggered to the end. Poppy Bush involved us in another land war in Asia, which really only began to end this past month. He failed to win reelection mostly because the economy was bad at the wrong time. Bill Clinton won reelection, but his second term was mired in scandal and humiliation, culminating with his impeachment by a deranged House of Representatives. George W. Bush’s second term was the most shameful and disastrous we’ve seen since James Buchanan was in office.


    It’s easy to forget how good we have it. But I honestly don’t think we’ve had a president who truly deserved reelection since Eisenhower, and I probably would have voted for Stevenson. It’s so rare for us to have a president worthy of a second term that we probably should go out and make sure that he actually gets reelected.


    • January 18, 2012 at 4:37 pm

      Boomnan’s right. You have to go back a long way to find a president who had a decent second term and that was in a time of a less divided country without a hostile 24/7 media environment. I personally think that PBO’s second term will be his best, especially if we can deliver him a Democratic Congress. He will be liberated from elections and will able to truly spread his wings. WE HAVE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

    • 144 57andFemale
      January 18, 2012 at 5:39 pm

      I cut my political teeth on the 1956 election. And yes — I was 6 years old. But I remember political discussions in my house. My parents were Depression-era FDR Democrats, through and through. But they respected Eisenhower and knew the country would be in good hands, no matter who won.

      Was that the last time we were able to say that? 50+ years ago?

  40. January 18, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    Yes, Romney Could Lose, Ctd

    He’s ascending rapidly in national polls, he’s thinking of skipping debates, his lead in Florida is prodigious … and yet. And yet. I sound like Jack Germond but I’ve been covering these elections my whole adult life, and have blogged three presidential elections on the Dish – and I’m still not completely sure it’s over.

    We live in an economy where millions are unemployed, millions more over-worked and losing pay, and the gap between very, very rich and everyone else has widened to extremes not seen since the 1920s. The pain of economic dislocation is everywhere and only now are we finding some green shoots, as we enter the second year of slow recovery from the bottom. We also know that the key difference between Romney and Obama on the debt is that Romney wants to cut it by entitlement and discretionary spending cuts alone, while Obama would also include defense cuts and some tax increases on the very very rich.

    I think Obama has a slam dunk on that argument. But Romney is an incredibly compromised person to make the case for exempting the very very rich from any sacrifices at all, while asking the poor and middle class to bear the entire burden.


  41. 146 desertflower
    January 18, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    CSPAN2 says Boner’s going to talk about pipeline at 3:15…..is he going to CRY????

  42. January 18, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    I cannot stand it! Does anyone know where in Arizona our President is going to be?. Whatever I have to do, I want to go see him in person for the first time!

  43. January 18, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    January 18, 2012 2:50 PM
    Playing the blame game
    By Steve Benen

    There would appear to be a contradiction in the polls. On the one hand, Americans continue to be deeply unsatisfied with the state of the economy. On the other, President Obama’s approval rating has been pretty stable in the mid- to high-40s.

    The key to understanding this is simple — most folks still don’t blame the president for the mess he inherited.

    A majority of Americans believe that former President George W. Bush is more responsible than President Obama for the current economic problems in the country, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

    Fifty-four percent of respondents said that Bush was more to blame while 29 percent put the blame on Obama; 9 percent said both men deserved blame while 6 percent said neither did. Among registered voters, the numbers are almost identical; 54 percent blame Bush, while 30 percent blame Obama.

    Independents, widely considered the most critical voting bloc this fall, continue to blame Bush far more than Obama for the economic troubles. Fifty-seven percent of unaffiliated voters put the blame on the former Republican president, while 25 percent believe the blame rests more with Obama.

    Heck, even one in five Republicans say Bush is more responsible than Obama for the state of the economy!


  44. January 18, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    Good Day Tod’s Ville:-)

    In other news:

    Homeless Intel science compo whiz off to see Obama Teen semifinalist gets invite to State of the Union address

    Garvey is one of 300 students named as a semifinalist in Intel’s Science Talent Search (STS) 2012, a competition for pre-college pupils in the US. But the 17-year-old’s accomplishment has captured America’s imagination because she, and her family, are currently living in a homeless shelter. Unsurprisingly, since her story reached the headlines, her family has been allocated a three-bedroom house, which they will be able to move into in the next few weeks.
    Congressman Israel said he was moved by the student’s story and has offered her a prestigious gallery ticket for the State of the Union address.

    • 161 JoJothecat
      January 18, 2012 at 3:17 pm

      I am very proud of her on a wonderful accomplishment against some serious financial odds. Newt would have her cleaning toilets instead of studying….can’t wait to hear PBO point that out at his SOTU address.

  45. 162 JoJothecat
    January 18, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    I hope one of the News magazines writes an article titled “Will the American people vote for the person that represents the 1% or thi 99% President”? because that is the choice we have before us this election…just that simple.

  46. 163 Pamela
    January 18, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    Uh. Oh. Uh. Oh. I couldn’t post a reply above, and now I have had to re-enter my email… Chips? Have I been naughty? Can you define naughty?

  47. 164 Bill
    January 18, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    The Orange Man is now on C-SPAN going nuts over the pipeline. We are going to hear a lot about this.

    • 165 desertflower
      January 18, 2012 at 3:27 pm

      Is he crying yet? The man that would financially benefit from this pipeline is whining? Screw him

      • 166 Pamela
        January 18, 2012 at 3:35 pm

        Probably weeping over all that investment money he might lose…or maybe not, he can claim it as a tax write-off. Hope we see the end of both him and Cantorwont this year!

    • 167 desertflower
      January 18, 2012 at 3:45 pm

      Hey, John! What did you do today at work? Pass that Jobs Bill? Oh, same old, same old. Not a damn thing. We get it.

  48. 168 desertflower
    January 18, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    At least SOMEBODY’S paying attention!


    What’s more, as long as we’re on the subject of blame, a New York Times/CBS News poll released this morning also found that Americans hold Republicans responsible for the gridlock in Washington. The survey found 60% of the public believes President Obama is “attempting to work with Congressional Republicans to try to accomplish something,” while only 27% say the same about GOP lawmakers. It’s probably why the president’s approval rating is roughly quadruple that of Congress.

    Taken together, the American mainstream blames the economy on Bush and the mess in D.C. on congressional Republicans. This probably isn’t how the GOP hoped to start 2012.

  49. January 18, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    Not a lot of info out yet on the President’s upcoming tour:

    In another sign that Democrats believe that they might carry Arizona in the 2012 election, President Barack Obama will travel to the Phoenix area on Jan. 25, a White House official confirmed Wednesday.

    The president’s trip to Arizona will be part of a five-state, three-day swing across the country that will begin the day after he delivers his annual State of the Union address on Tuesday.

    In addition to Arizona, the president will visit Iowa, Colorado, Michigan and Nevada, all potential swing states in this year’s presidential election.

    The White House will release more details about the trip as they become available.


  50. 173 Linda
    January 18, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    President Obama today released a statement officially detailing why he decided to reject the Keystone XL pipeline project, saying that after he reviewed the State Department’s report, he agreed:

    This announcement is not a judgment on the merits of the pipeline, but the arbitrary nature of a deadline that prevented the State Department from gathering the information necessary to approve the project and protect the American people.

    I’m disappointed that Republicans in Congress forced this decision, but it does not change my Administration’s commitment to American-made energy that creates jobs and reduces our dependence on oil.

    Under my Administration, domestic oil and natural gas production is up, while imports of foreign oil are down. In the months ahead, we will continue to look for new ways to partner with the oil and gas industry to increase our energy security –including the potential development of an oil pipeline from Cushing, Oklahoma to the Gulf of Mexico – even as we set higher efficiency standards for cars and trucks and invest in alternatives like biofuels and natural gas. And we will do so in a way that benefits American workers and businesses without risking the health and safety of the American people and the environment.

  51. 176 Linda
    January 18, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Former President Jimmy Carter on Wednesday charged Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich with crafting his campaign message in a way that speaks to prejudice.

    “I wouldn’t say he’s racist, but he knows the subtle words to use to appeal to a racist group,” the former Democratic president said in an interview set to air on CNN’s “Piers Morgan Tonight.”

    • 177 desertflower
      January 18, 2012 at 3:40 pm

      Can’t argue with that. Newt with a sledgehammer.

    • January 18, 2012 at 4:01 pm

      Oh, he’s not a racist, he just panders to racists!

    • 181 utaustinliberal
      January 18, 2012 at 4:17 pm

      He rightfully calls ’em as he sees ’em. I remember when the teaparty garnered a height of popularity and people in the media were too chicken shit to call them for what they were. A bunch of bigoted racists who supposedly wanted “their country back” and who couldn’t stand the thought of a black man being President. Former President Carter called them for what they are and never backed down from his assertions. Coming from the South, he definitely knows racism when he sees it. So glad he keeps on calling bigots like Newt out.

      • 182 Bill
        January 18, 2012 at 4:34 pm

        Jimmy Carter never backs down from anything and always speaks his mind. I wish he were more appreciated. He is a good man.

        • January 18, 2012 at 6:13 pm

          He is a good man.

          Well If you notice, It’s always the good man or men, who are not appreciated, because there are more crooks and evil doers In this world, than there are good men, or people. It simply goes back to Bible days, but we must presson, nevertheless 🙂

    • 185 desertflower
      January 18, 2012 at 3:47 pm

      Absolutely beautiful. I may have to get that…look like some great articles 🙂

      • 188 desertflower
        January 18, 2012 at 3:57 pm

        Thank you, CTGirl! She sounds just so angry…don’t you think? (total snarkage)

        FLOTUS has game. She can wave her invisible wand and make things happen. Like this innovative program, which taps White House staffers to mentor local high school girls, teaching them how to network by providing them cozy access to the administration’s vast brain trust. One call from FLOTUS, and a handful of 17-year-olds can be over at the Supreme Court chatting up a couple of justices or at the Department of Labor seeking advice from Secretary Hilda Solis about getting jobs in a tough market. Cosmetics mogul Bobbi Brown will be talking to them about beauty inside and out, and the president’s executive chef will bake them chocolate-chip cookies sweetened with organic honey from the hive in the first lady’s garden. FLOTUS doesn’t just make an entrance; she opens doors that are normally closed.

        “But sometimes,” Obama tells her class of mentees, “I just want to be Michelle. So you guys have to start slowly seeing me as Michelle, all right?”

      • 189 xtine
        January 18, 2012 at 4:00 pm

        Thanks CTGirl! Lovely FLOTUS! Memorable quote: “To open a secret door for others that hadn’t been opened for me.”

      • 190 isonprize
        January 18, 2012 at 5:00 pm

        I don’t think it’s possible to love Michelle Obama more!!!! FLOTUS as a character! I’m sure that’s the way that she keeps it all is perspective. She doesn’t take herself too seriously. And that is why people love her so much. I feel like she could come in my kitchen and sit down for a cup of tea and have a chat. What a winning personality!! She’s so helpful, so comforting, SO REAL!!!

        LOVE HER!!!!

    • 192 L3
      January 18, 2012 at 3:53 pm

      This article is perfectly timed given the nonsense surrounding “that book” and allows the FLOTUS to speak for herself to a publication of her choosing and not allow others, with less than good intentions, to define her.

      • 193 Pamela
        January 18, 2012 at 4:00 pm

        Love this. It is this kind of real, true, honest effort, not only effort, but the ability to see another’s reality; this is what will make a difference going forward.

        • 194 CTGirl
          January 18, 2012 at 4:05 pm

          She is a remarkable woman! I think that is why we have seen such a strong push back against Kantor’s attempt at boxing her in as an “angry black woman”

          • 195 Pamela
            January 18, 2012 at 4:17 pm

            There can no anger in a heart so big, so filled with love, and so well-loved. Love and anger do not support each other. Love wins, no question! Who would choose anger over love ~ no one who knows the difference.

    • 196 TrumpDog
      January 18, 2012 at 4:37 pm

      Apparently I have a subscription to it….one showed up in my mailbox a few days back. I really don’t remember signing up for one but I guess I did.
      Looking forward to February’s issue.

  52. 199 Ladyhawke
    January 18, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    President Obama’s statement on the Keystone XL pipeline permit denial


    As I posted earlier, President Obama will be denying the permit for the Keystone XL pipeline. He isn’t weighing in on the merits of the project. Rather, he is denying it because, as I predicted, the Republicans were trying to force his administration to make a rushed determination.



  53. 200 desertflower
    January 18, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    Whoever made the comment earlier about the 1% President vs. the 99% President…what more do we need to see?


    If Mitt Romney is trying to shed his image as an out-of-touch banker, yesterday did not help. On the same day the GOP frontrunner revealed that he pays a much lower tax rate than many middle-class Americans, the founder and CEO of the world’s largest private equity fund hosted Romney and a select group of other financial elites for a top-dollar fundraiser and strategy session at his ultra-posh Manhattan home.
    The venue was the Park Avenue apartment of Stephen Schwarzman, the 66th richest person in the world, a 24-room triplex once owned by John D. Rockefeller Jr. that Schwarzman purchased for “$30-something-million” — the highest price ever paid for a New York apartment at the time. There’s even a book about Schwarzman’s building: 740 Park: The Story of the World’s Richest Apartment Building. (Mega-conservative donor David Koch and former Merrill Lynch CEO John Thain also live in the building, though no word if they attended the fundraiser.)

  54. 201 desertflower
    January 18, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    From TPM: This is rich.

    Boehner On Keystone XL Decision: Is It Not In The National Interest To Create Jobs?
    House Speaker John Boehner on Wednesday responded to the Obama Administration’s decision to reject construction of the Keystone XL pipeline. “Is it not in the national interest to create tens of thousands of jobs?” Boehner said.

    Bob, you better Tweet him again..he obviously didn’t read your message!

    • 202 desertflower
      January 18, 2012 at 4:37 pm

      Send him this

      thinkprogress FACT: Keystone XL oil would be exported outside of the U.S. thkpr.gs/wmgP8X
      about 1 hour ago · reply · retweet · favorite

  55. 203 desertflower
    January 18, 2012 at 4:20 pm

    And I read at TPM that if Newt won, he would give Sarah Palin a MAJOR post in his administration…that’s all I need to know.

  56. 205 Ladyhawke
    January 18, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    Randi Rhodes read this article on the air. It is fascinating stuff.

    What Mitt Romney’s father could teach him about economic fairness


    If Romney were not running for president, his taxes would obviously be his own business. He’d be just a citizen seeking to minimize his tax liability under the law, as all of us do. But because Romney is running for president, and thus proposing specific plans for the nation’s future taxes and spending, his status as a beneficiary and defender of the carried interest loophole (and perhaps others) offers a window into his public values.

    Here’s what a senior partner at a private equity firm told me last year about the tax treatment of “carried interest.” “Of course it should be taxed as ordinary income,” he said. “I’m amazed we’ve been able to have this as long as we have. It’s been a wonderful gift all these years, but all of us know it’s going to go away one day.”


    Read more here…….


  57. 207 Linda
    January 18, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    Bill Clinton had some sharp words for MSNBC in a just-released interview with Esquire.

    The former president was speaking to the magazine about “things we can agree on” in a polarized time, and he cited the network as one of the culprits when his interviewer asked, “why does the politics seem so much more caustic now than even [when you were president]?”

    Clinton said he thought that “the diffusion of the media has complicated things.” He then used MSNBC as an example of this.

    “I was just watching MSNBC, and they had a woman that used to work for me and a couple of other people on there, and they were talking about the Republican primary,” he said. “And I was laughing. I said, ‘Boy, it really has become our version of Fox.'”


    • 208 57andFemale
      January 18, 2012 at 5:54 pm

      Bill Clinton is a jerk.

      First of all, Bill, your Telecom Bill is what put the destruction of the media on steroids, you jerk.

      MSNBC is our version of Fox?!?!?! Is Randi Rhodes the host of Fox’s morning show? Or any other decent, Obama-supporting progressive?

      Have I said Bill Clinton is a jerk?

    • 209 halo
      January 18, 2012 at 5:57 pm


  58. 210 Pamela
    January 18, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    So special! The WH Christmas card arrived in today’s mail…. How long did that take, but who cares! I will set it beside the one FLOTUS sent before Christmas. . . I just love getting mail from The White House, brightens up this snow-enforced day off work.. Missing work is hard on us self-employed… so, make another cuppa, kitty on the lap, Christmas all over again, without the tree! 😉

  59. January 18, 2012 at 4:31 pm

  60. January 18, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    The Obama campaign fires back at Mitt Romney over the Keystone pipeline, with campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt saying in a statement: “Mitt Romney has made clear that he would rubberstamp whatever the Republicans in Congress demand of him, whether it’s a budget that would make the middle class and seniors foot the bill for more tax breaks for the wealthiest or refusing to evaluate how a pipeline would affect our public health and natural resources. President Obama has pursued a comprehensive energy strategy that has increased our domestic energy production, reduced our dependence on foreign oil to below 50% for the first time in 13 years and supported more than 224,000 clean energy jobs.”

    • 220 Linda
      January 18, 2012 at 4:44 pm

      I cannot imagine Mitt saying anything without checking with someone else first. He could never handle the 3 AM phone call.

  61. 221 hopefruit2
    January 18, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    More stupid GOP theatrics as usual.

  62. 226 Linda
    January 18, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    Robert Redford

    Actor, director, and environmental activist

    Let’s face it: Big Oil is used to getting its way. But not today… and we have President Obama to thank for standing up to them in spite of the political risk.

    President Obama has just rejected a permit for the Keystone XL tar sands pipeline — a project that promised riches for the oil giants and an environmental disaster for the rest of us.

    His decision represents a victory of historic proportions for people from throughout the pipeline path and all across America who have waged an uphill, years-long fight against one of the most nightmarish fossil fuel projects of our time.

    But make no mistake: Big Oil is going to fight back hard and fast.

    Why? Because this was a prime-time fight. The oil giants made sure of that.

    Big Oil had their Congressional boosters put the president to an election-year test by forcing him to decide the pipeline’s fate within 60 days. Then, the oil lobby itself rolled out its biggest PR guns to get the job done.

    The head of the American Petroleum Institute sent the White House a very public and blatant warning: Approve the Keystone XL or face “huge political consequences.”

    Because Big Oil lost, this is not the end of the fight. This is the beginning of the real battle for America’s energy future.

    That battle will be fought in Congress, where Representatives who’ve collected $12 million from the Oil & Gas industry over the past two years are sure to try to raise Keystone XL from the dead.

    So when you hear Big Oil call Keystone XL a national jobs plan — ask “Are you kidding me?” A single pipeline project is not a jobs plan. Economic security is to be found in clean energy not in dirty energy that threatens us with oil spills and ever worsening harm from climate change.

    And when you hear Big Oil say that we need Keystone XL for our security — tell them to get real. Energy security comes from reducing our dependence on oil, not from a pipeline that would leave us with the risk but send the tar sands oil overseas.

    The president stood up to Big Oil and listened to Americans saying: “We’re done with fossil fuel schemes that destroy our land, poison our water and wreak havoc with our climate so that oil companies can make out like bandits.” Now we need to continue to stand with the president and make it clear that tar sands pipelines are not in our national interest.

    I brought the entire article because it is on HuffyPuffy.

  63. January 18, 2012 at 5:07 pm

    However, the Iowa Republican party will release its audited caucus results on Thursday morning, which could possibly show that Romney, who was initially believed to have won by eight votes over Santorum, actually finished second to Santorum by a similarly slim margin.

    An Iowa win by Santorum, coupled with a surprise showing by Gingrich in South Carolina, could completely change the narrative of the GOP primary, leaving Romney with only one strong victory in New Hampshire, where he owns a vacation home and which borders his home state of Massachusetts.


    This will injure Robney in SC!

  64. 231 Linda
    January 18, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    Halperin is giving his most excellent predictions on Hardball.

  65. January 18, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    The cities are-

    2.) POST-SOTU SWING: Obama will do a five state, post-State of the Union swing. Cedar Rapids, Phoenix, Las Vegas, Denver and Detroit are his stops, Carney tells reporters.

  66. January 18, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    U.S. President Barack Obama has called for direct talks with Iran in a secret letter to the Islamic Republic’s supreme leader that also warned Tehran against closing the strategic Strait of Hormuz, a conservative Iranian lawmaker was quoted as saying Wednesday.

    Iran has threatened to close the waterway, the route for about one-sixth of the global oil flow, because of new U.S. sanctions over its nuclear program.

    Conservative lawmaker Ali Motahari revealed the content of the letter days after the Obama administration said it was warning Iran through public and private channels against any action that threatens the flow of oil from the Persian Gulf.


  67. 236 Linda
    January 18, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    TransCanad­­a is being blocked from building another pipeline from Alberta through British Columbia to the Pacific Coast for export to China by the First Nations.


    • 239 57andFemale
      January 18, 2012 at 5:58 pm

      One of my favorites. Passionate, articulate and doesn’t very often do the….”Republicans really are nice guys, but……” that drives me crazy from a lot of Democratic spokespeople.

      We need about 50 more Steve Israels.

    • 242 desertflower
      January 18, 2012 at 6:19 pm

      ABC News reports Romney “has as much as $8 million invested in at least 12 funds listed on a Cayman Islands registry.” The story says another investment, which Romney has disclosed as being worth between $5 million and $25 million, “shows up on securities records as having been domiciled in the Caymans.”

      A Romney campaign official, who was not named, told ABC News that “the tax consequences to the Romneys are the very same whether the fund is domiciled here or another country.”

      That last quote really cracks me up! Grand Cayman HIDES the money from the US…might as well be a Swiss banks account…which reminds me…have they checked THAT OUT???

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