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‘ron paul’s useful idiots on the left’

Megan Carpentier (The Guardian): If you told a liberal in 2008 that progressives ought to give Ron Paul a chance because he was the most anti-war candidate on the ballot, you would have been laughed out of the room … But in 2012, some prominent (and white, male) progressives are arguing exactly that. What’s changed? Not Ron Paul, that’s for certain.

…. to the women, minorities and LGBT people (and their supporters) who have paid attention to Paul’s record, it comes as little surprise that his most vociferous supporters on the left are pale and male … and their arguments stale.

…. Nonetheless, there have been calls by progressives, most notably Glenn Greenwald, to ignore all of that and more, and focus instead on Obama’s policy failings …. no policy priorities are more imperative than those – certainly not abortion, immigration rights, LGBT equality, racial justice or any other aspect of the US’s extensive foreign policy. (Greenwald, who is gay, was in the relatively privileged position of being able to travel to Brazil to circumvent Doma.)…

…. (their) lives won’t be directly affected by all those pesky social conservative policies Paul would seek to enact as president, either due to their race, class, gender or sexual orientation…..

Full article here

I see the Greenwald cultists are going after Megan Carpentier on Twitter (@megancarpentier) …. they just can’t handle their CATO boy being called out for what he is. Hysteria!!!!!! Poor pets.


144 Responses to “‘ron paul’s useful idiots on the left’”


    • 2 LOL
      January 8, 2012 at 7:26 pm

      About that book….

      A White House official told POLITICO Sunday that a Halloween party thrown for military families in 2009 was no secret and that there was no conspiracy to cover-up the role of two well-known Hollywood figures.

      In her new book “The Obamas,” Jodi Kantor reports that the White House communications staff was concerned about the optics of the Obamas hosting a star-studded ‘Alice in Wonderland’-themed Halloween party in a time of economic misery. As a result, Kantor reports, they did not highlight the role that director Tim Burton and actor Johnny Depp played at the event. Burton helped decorate the White House for the party, while Depp attended in costume as the Mad Hatter.

      “This was an event for local school children from the Washington DC area and for hundreds of military families. If we wanted this event to be a secret, we probably wouldn’t have invited the press corps to cover it, release photos of it to Flickr, or post a video from it on the White House website,” White House spokesman Eric Schultz said in a statement. “Even Johnny Depp’s fan new about it and posted on their website. Just goes to show you can’t believe everything you read in books these days.”

      The official White House social media releases and the reporter pool dispatches from the party do not mention either Burton or Depp, but the Depp fan site JohnnyDeppNews.com reported that the actor was in attendance with Burton. And the Nashville Tennessean also reported that both Depp and Burton were at the White House for the party. Then-White House press secretary Robert Gibbs addressed the event in his briefing, but did not go into any detail.

      .
      Hopefully this book is in the fiction section.

      • 3 anniebella
        January 8, 2012 at 7:52 pm

        LOL, everytime I hear something about this piece of trash, you see what the writer is trying to do. It becomes more and more clear that is a hack job by Kantor.

      • 8 jacquelineoboomer
        January 8, 2012 at 7:55 pm

        If I’m not mistaken, I think this is the second time I’ve seen a White House spokesman other than Jay Clark Kent Carney respond to items in this book, giving it once again the B-list attention it deserves.

        Plus, really, if this is all one can find negative about President Obama’s first term, the author was really stretching. Really.

        • 9 anniebella
          January 8, 2012 at 8:53 pm

          The Halloween Party was for the military families and little D.C. kids, what is wrong with that. I know Kantor tied to imply something was wrong.

      • 10 Jessica
        January 8, 2012 at 8:27 pm

        Not gonna lie, I never of Depp being at the White House and I love him. Sounded fun.

        • 11 57andFemale
          January 8, 2012 at 9:16 pm

          Wish this book hadn’t happened, but it one of the prices to pay. It won’t change public perception: the majority of Americans will defend her and at least half will do so passionately. The haters hate no matter what. It won’t sway the dumb independents and may actually win some of them, The press won’t ignore her good record on precisely these issues and it’s actually a lot of free press.

          We could have lived without it but I think it’s going to be a draw and not that important in the long run.

    • 12 Pamela
      January 8, 2012 at 7:29 pm

      LOL! Yes you are!

  1. 15 Pamela
    January 8, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    Watched the entire video of PBO at the memorial last year….. He moves me more than ever. What a brave and honest man.

  2. January 8, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    thanks Chips for the new thread 🙂

  3. 17 Ladyhawke
    January 8, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    AND ANOTHER THING……

    There’s No Such Thing as an “Indefinite Detention Bill” and Other Pro Left Lies

    http://pleasecutthecrap.typepad.com/main/2011/12/indefinitedetentionbs.html

    • 18 isonprize
      January 8, 2012 at 7:38 pm

      LadyHawke, I’m going to tweet this link to The Rev Al. He had a caller on this morning, who was just believe ALL the hype over this issue. Thanks!!

  4. 19 Ladyhawke
    January 8, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    AND WHILE WE’RE AT IT ……….

    Last Word on NDAA: If You Don’t Like it, Stop Helping Right Wingers Win!

    See, here’s the thing; if you keep blaming him and Democrats for everything, then you’re going to end up with someone from the GOP Klown Kar in the White House, a Republican House and a Republican Senate. You can’t possibly think you’re going to get better laws. Ah, but there’ll be more to protest, right?

    http://pleasecutthecrap.typepad.com/main/2012/01/last-word-on-ndaa-if-you-dont-like-it-stop-helping-right-wingers-win.html

    • 20 Pamela
      January 8, 2012 at 7:44 pm

      More to protest, but none of them will be listening! Count on it.

      • 21 Ladyhawke
        January 8, 2012 at 7:59 pm

        I know, they are gluttons for punishment. During the 2010 midterms there were far too many so called progressives criticizing President Obama right along with the Tea Party. You would think they would realize the error of their ways after the GOP train wreck in 2011. But fast forward to 2012 and we are seeing the same nonsense again. They will never learn. If they are not whining and complaining about something they just don’t feel relevant.

    • January 8, 2012 at 7:55 pm

      really like milt shook

  5. January 8, 2012 at 7:42 pm

    Greenwald is not a Progressive.

    • 25 isonprize
      January 8, 2012 at 7:47 pm

      oooh, ooooh, ooooh, pick me! Pick me!!! Waving my hands in the air, back and forth!!!

      Can I say what Greenwald is?? OOOH, can I, can I, can I???

      • January 8, 2012 at 7:59 pm

        LOL…Just remember the rules. LOL…

        • 27 Pamela
          January 8, 2012 at 8:03 pm

          Yeah, coz I had to bite my tongue and not jump right on that one! It was not easy!

          • 28 hopefruit2
            January 8, 2012 at 8:11 pm

            Groan-wald is an angry, selfish Libertarian.

            • 29 Pamela
              January 8, 2012 at 8:57 pm

              hopefruit2, your description is kind and generous!

              • 30 hopefruit2
                January 8, 2012 at 9:19 pm

                Yes, I’m trying…it’s hard but I’m trying.

              • 31 nathkatun7
                January 9, 2012 at 3:31 am

                Indeed! Hopefruit2 was really “kind and generous!” As far as I am concerned, Greenwald is one of the most spoiled adults who, because of living a privileged life, shows no understanding of the complexity of governing a diverse country like the United States. After all, for him as a privileged person, nothing really changes if Democrats or Republicans are in control of government. And, if any governmental actions threatens his privileges, he can always fly to Brazil and continue enjoying a privileged life. I even doubt that he knows anything about the struggles of lower class Brazilians.

  6. 32 africa
    January 8, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    Anyone seen or know if it is true? Mitt, the JobCremator aka Romney, Inc. protesting in favor of the Vietnam draft? I don’t like to spread unconfirmed rumors, but I found this on twitter.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2083002/Mitt-Romney-19-demonstrated-favour-Vietnam-War-draft.html?mid=573

    • January 8, 2012 at 8:06 pm

      Some group at his college were protesting those who were anti-war and Romney walked up and offered to help to speak to the press for them. Romney was given a sign and was photographed holding the sign.

      That’s pretty much it. Romney can’t deny any involvement because there are pictures.

      • 34 jacquelineoboomer
        January 8, 2012 at 8:52 pm

        This one doesn’t hurt him too much, methinks, because he wasn’t an anti-war protester. Oh, no, he was an anti-anti-war protester (always marching to the beat of a different guitar). What is left of that time that can be said is that he was deferred from the draft because he was a Mormon minister – some will say he was hiding behind that, while other people’s sons had to go. But anyone who lived through the Vietnam era (as I did) knows that all kinds of people were on all kinds of sides, the majority of draftees heading to war, some heading to Canada, some avoiding the draft by going into the Peace Corps, some with deferments, some conscientious objectors, etc.

        I was more than glad when President Obama came along and nobody could say he avoided the draft. We need to move past all this, but we probably won’t.

    • January 8, 2012 at 8:29 pm

      Send to dnc. Or tweet Dws with this info!

      • 36 Mel
        January 8, 2012 at 9:45 pm

        Yes,Yes, Yes!! send to the DNC the picture speak valums Mitt is a chikenhawk Mitt is a very
        dishonest person and he claims to be a person of faith? WTF? send somebore alse to war,
        but NOT them Rich persons.

  7. January 8, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    • January 8, 2012 at 7:58 pm

      Because he would have started staffing up for his Presidential run in 2008 by the time he was out of Gov’s office in Jan 2007 – and I bet there are staffers who were contacted and hired who would be willing to talk now. Another Mitt lie.

    • 39 Ladyhawke
      January 8, 2012 at 8:07 pm

      WILLARD’S BREATHTAKING DISHONESTY

      The point at which Mitt Romney loses his mind

      ===================================

      If Romney believes his own garbage, he’s deranged. If he doesn’t believe it, but he’s making the argument anyway, Romney’s a craven con man.

      My hunch is that he’s the latter.

      One of the problems with lying is how easy it is. When a person wants something badly enough, and knows making stuff up can help acquire it, there’s a temptation to simply ignore the truth, tell the lie, and get the goal. It takes a modicum of strength to see the inherent value of the truth.

      And Romney is just a weak man who lacks the courage necessary to have a credible debate over economic policies. Such an argument requires honesty, an understanding of the basics, and a willingness to be consistent and principled — and given Romney’s glaring character flaws, he seems to lack the integrity to engage in such a discussion.

      http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_12/the_point_at_which_mitt_romney034234.php#

    • 40 Pamela
      January 8, 2012 at 9:39 pm

      Implies none of Myth Robney’s statements should be taken too literally, yes? Sensing a viral movement on this one!

  8. 41 halo
    January 8, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    WHAT A FOOTBALL GAME!

  9. 45 hopefruit2
    January 8, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    ROBney.

  10. 47 halo
    January 8, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    OMG OMG TEBOW

  11. 49 hopefruit2
    January 8, 2012 at 8:10 pm

    May he RIP.

    • 50 anniebella
      January 8, 2012 at 8:22 pm

      I heard that on NBC Nightly News, died from stomach cancer.

    • 51 EDP4BHO
      January 8, 2012 at 9:33 pm

      Yes, may he rest in peace. This is what was said about his BF Newt:

      Mr. Blankley retained his loyalty to Mr. Gingrich throughout his life. Late last year, in one of his last syndicated columns, he wrote that the Republican Party needed a presidential candidate who could “make sense of the terrible events and forces that weigh down our country; be capable of vividly describing our plight and what needs to be done; and convince the public that he or she has the intelligence, courage, experience and sheer willful capacity to force events favorably to America’s historic interests and needs.”

      Excuse me Mr. Blankley, but you just described the President we already have, thank you very much !

  12. January 8, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    Some more info to help with discussion of NDAA:

    National Defense Authorization Act
    The administration worked with Congress to reach an agreement on a final defense authorization bill that allows the President to protect the nation while holding true to our values.

    The President does not agree with everything in the bill and has serious reservations about certain provisions. At the same time, he was unwilling to irresponsibly allow defense funding to lapse while we are engaged in military conflicts overseas.

    In a signing statement, the President made it clear that his administration will not authorize the indefinite military detention without trial of American citizens. This bill does not increase or otherwise change any authorities regarding the detention of American citizens.

    Under the President’s leadership, the United States has held true to the ideals that make our country great while keeping the nation safe. For example, in his first week in office, President Obama issued an Executive Order banning torture and ensuring the lawful interrogation of detainees.

    PBO’s signing statement: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/12/31/statement-president-hr-1540

  13. January 8, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    Good article on dailykos -president Obama is best president ever!

  14. 54 dotster3
    January 8, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    I’m missing the latest comments strip on the rt. hand side. Right?

  15. January 8, 2012 at 8:25 pm

  16. January 8, 2012 at 8:33 pm
    • January 8, 2012 at 8:40 pm
    • 60 desertflower
      January 8, 2012 at 8:58 pm

      Beautiful. I don’t know how Jan Brewer can show her face down there. She enabled this man to have this weapon. When the legislature takes up again this week, the issue of allowing guns on college campus’ will come up, yet again. She will sign the bill if it comes before her.She enables this kind of thing to continue to happen. If they could, they would arm everyone here. At birth. No back ground checks. No training needed.I detest this woman…and continue to pray that those that were touched by this senseless tragedy can heal and find peace.

  17. 61 LOL
    January 8, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    AAAAHHHHHH…. I don’t know how to post tweets but Santorum was asked “Who are the blah people?”

  18. January 8, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    In an effort to sustain commercial and recreational fishing for the next several decades, the United States this year will become the first country to impose catch limits for every species it manages, from Alaskan pollock to Caribbean queen conch.

    Although the policy has attracted scant attention outside the community of those who fish in America and the officials who regulate them, it marks an important shift in a pursuit that has helped define the country since its founding.

    Unlike most recent environmental policy debates, which have divided neatly along party lines, this one is about a policy that was forged under President George W. Bush and finalized with President Obama’s backing.

    http://mobile.washingtonpost.com/c.jsp?item=http%3a%2f%2fwww.washingtonpost.com%2fnational%2fhealth-science%2fus-tightens-fishing-policy-setting-2012-catch-limits-for-all-managed-species%2f2011%2f12%2f30%2fgIQALLObjP_mobile.mobile&cid=578815

  19. 70 JER
    January 8, 2012 at 8:42 pm

  20. January 8, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    Several senior House liberals are cheering President Obama this week after his administration proposed new rules making it easier for some illegal immigrants to remain in the country while they apply for citizenship.

    “The President deserves credit for setting in place another essential building block through administrative action – moving us closer to a common sense immigration policy – that puts America, its families and its economy first,” Rep. Xavier Becerra (Calif.), vice chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, said Friday in a statement.

    The announcement represents another in a string of moves by Obama to make good on campaign promises to Hispanics – an ever-growing voting bloc that helped put him into the White House in 2008.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/202983-liberals-cheer-proposed-white-house-immigration-reform

    • 74 desertflower
      January 8, 2012 at 9:04 pm

      Funny, I haven’t heard a peep from Luis Gutierrez. Did HE commend the President?

      • January 8, 2012 at 10:16 pm

        Yes, our local Dem Whiner actually did. 🙂 I guess he isn’t that bad but then again he isn’t that great.

        Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.), perhaps the most vocal supporter of immigrant rights on Capitol Hill, welcomed the change with open arms.

        “When people ask ‘Why don’t immigrants here illegally leave and come back the right way?’ this is one of the main reasons why even the wives and husbands of U.S. service members are prevented from doing so by this bureaucratic straightjacket,” Gutierrez said in a statement.

        “This step will ease that somewhat, but only for the immediate family of U.S. citizens who already qualify for legal status,” he said.

  21. January 8, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    Glennzilla showed up in the comments of Megan Carpentier’s article and I can’t even force myself to read any of it.

  22. January 8, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    While the opposition postures and prances and makes no progress (for example from one ‘debat’e to the next), PBO’s Administration is always engaged on so many levels. Worth keeping an eye on, or not?

    http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2012/01/pakistan-taken-on-board-by-us-on-talks-with-taliban/

    • January 8, 2012 at 9:04 pm

      I read that piece earlier and I think we’re at a very critical juncture of some very delicate diplomacy. Can only imagine what’s going on behind the scenes. Fingers crossed for success.

      • January 8, 2012 at 10:09 pm

        Meta, my fingers seem always to be crossed mentally when it comes to the behind the scenes FP ‘stuff’ that this administration is juggling. I so want them to succeed in not only making the world a better place, but also in maintaining the positive American presence PBO has signaled.

        When you compare the pieces that leak out of what PBO and his team are doing around the world, some of it like a delicate dance, to what the House Republicans are NOT doing here at home, you have to shake your head. Repubs seem able to tackle one issue at a time (remember McSame suspending his campaign?), and even then they DO NOT do an effective job! Wish they would admit their lack of governing skills and just go away, or be told a resounding “Hell, no you can’t!” by voters in November, so that the adults can get the chance to turn things around.

        • January 8, 2012 at 10:15 pm

          I think we have reached a period in our history that is extraordinarily fragile. When I think about the toxic political environment in our country, the global financial meltdown, the Arab Spring, the ongoing tension and conflict between Israel and the Palestinians, global warming – on and on and on – I just can’t believe what we are facing. And I thank our lucky stars that PBO is in charge.

    • 83 desertflower
      January 8, 2012 at 9:12 pm

      Definitely worth keeping an eye on.I see from this that the Pakistanis are leery of Indian influence in Afghanistan…something I hadn’t heard before.

      • 84 Left-Indie
        January 8, 2012 at 9:38 pm

        They’re always worried about India. Solving Kashmir situation would go a long way toward Pakistan behaving rationally. Their whole military is geared to the “coming fight” with India. Crazy.

      • January 8, 2012 at 9:45 pm

        India is not a militaristic country unlike paranoid pakistan. pakistan’s sole existential reason is to oppose India.

        • 86 Left-Indie
          January 8, 2012 at 11:43 pm

          I think we agree there amk. But the point is the conflict over Kashmir is a major problem which fuels Pakistani freakouts and their tacit support for terrists types inside Pakistan. They constantly have India in mind above and beyond all their other problems. India would do well to help solve this thorny issue, too.

          • January 8, 2012 at 11:58 pm

            India pours millions of dollars every year into Kashmir for helping that state while all pakistan done is grow extremists there and blow up people. Kashmir will has always been and will always be a part of India. Trying to make India is a villain doesn’t wash.

    • January 8, 2012 at 10:08 pm

      China also has a pretty big stake in Afghanistan now given all the mining rights they’re securing. America is trying to turn Afghan over to regional influences that would have a natural stake in seeing stability in Afghanistan.

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  25. January 8, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    • 93 defytheodds
      January 8, 2012 at 9:13 pm

      Saintroscoe, Am I seeing double?–we posted at the exact-same-time.
      Well this is fitting since Willard has two sides to every story.

  26. 94 hopefruit2
    January 8, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    The good Dr. who first treated Gabby is now speaking 🙂

    • 96 anniebella
      January 8, 2012 at 9:57 pm

      I’ve never seen the ad, but the ad I saw. Didn’t Mitt say he has never seen the ad, then he comes back talking about the ad he saw, what a dam liar Mitt Romney is.

  27. 97 hopefruit2
    January 8, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    Husband Mark Kelly is now about to speak.

  28. 98 hopefruit2
    January 8, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    The orchestra/music/singing at this memorial is beautiful.

  29. 100 Ladyhawke
    January 8, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    VIDEO: Mitt Romney’s casual, effortless falsehoods

    =================================

    One of the more remarkable things about Mitt Romney’s falsehoods is how casual they are. I’m not talking about the big Romney lies (Obama apologized for America; Obama made the economy worse; etc.). Rather, I’m talking about the small, almost inconquential falsehoods that slide out of Romney, day in and day out, as smoothly as a puck on an air hockey table.
    .
    .
    I continue to maintain that Romney’s ability to lie, dissemble, distort and equivocate so effortlessly is a far more important story — and is far more telling about his character — than any $10,000 bet.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/mitt-romneys-casual-effortess-falsehoods/2011/12/14/gIQAYXS0tO_blog.html

  30. 101 hopefruit2
    January 8, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    Gabby is dancing – I just remembered that she LOVES music & singing herself 🙂

    • 102 defytheodds
      January 8, 2012 at 9:27 pm

      Tonight, Gabby has such a beautiful smile…

      • 103 desertflower
        January 8, 2012 at 9:38 pm

        She looks radiant!

        • 104 desertflower
          January 8, 2012 at 9:43 pm

          BY the way, I thought the prayer by the Rabbi was wonderful. She spoke about exactly what I always do when I hear emergency vehicles. Always. But the fact that she spoke about healthcare for all, and empathy and firefighter and policeman the way she did. and embracing the Mexican American ways…meant more than just words in this instance. Tucson is a very progressive town in an otherwise “red” state…these are values that the entire state needs to grab on to.My take anyway…what a much better place this would be.

          • 105 defytheodds
            January 8, 2012 at 9:50 pm

            Desertflower, I agree with your every word.
            And, maybe, just maybe, Tucson can lead AZ blue in 2012.

            • 106 desertflower
              January 8, 2012 at 10:00 pm

              I’m hoping beyond hope that this will happen. Very important for our state. We need to include and not divide. We need to listen to each other and not defend ignorance that masquerades as truth. We need to listen and understand….the insanity HAS to stop.

          • January 8, 2012 at 9:51 pm

            I thought it was very, very moving, too. Straight from the heart.

  31. 108 hopefruit2
    January 8, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    HEADLINE: Once struggling U.S. auto market now industry bedrock

    // Executives arriving this week for the Detroit auto show find a U.S. car market that has morphed from meltdown three years ago to a safe haven as concerns grow about the stability of other big economies, from Europe to China. Analysts and executives expect 2012 U.S. auto sales to grow 4 percent to 9 percent, the third consecutive annual gain. The only reason automakers are not more bullish is the risk that the sovereign debt crisis in Europe may trigger a broader slowdown. //

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/09/us-usautos-outlook-idUSTRE8070OK20120109

  32. January 8, 2012 at 9:33 pm

    Speaking of memorials, a friend sent me a link to this memorial page from the NYT. It’s a very moving presentation as we all celebrate and mourn someone:

    The Lives They Loved
    We invited readers to contribute a photograph of someone close to them who died this year. Here are some that illustrate a story from their lives.

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/12/20/magazine/lives-they-lived-reader-submissions.html#index

  33. 110 Left-Indie
    January 8, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    I never read Glenwald or read his supporters, but I thought he defended himself in the comments of that piece well. To be fair, seems a little out of context to me.

    • January 8, 2012 at 9:37 pm

      Lol. Greenwald hates the President. To be fair!

    • January 8, 2012 at 9:38 pm

      Have to disagree Left-Indie, I thought his response was pitiful – the usual spewing bile all over anyone who dares challenge him. For him to deny he’s been promoting Ron Paul, and happily overlooking Paul’s stance on “abortion, immigration rights, LGBT equality, racial justice”, etc, is just comical.

      • January 8, 2012 at 9:50 pm

        Chris Hayes and Rachel ignore that stuff, too! Why? I don’t get it?

        • January 8, 2012 at 9:59 pm

          Is it easier for non-whites folks to ignore Ron Paul’s racism…..or is it just a reflection of their own…

          • January 8, 2012 at 10:01 pm

            I meant to say…

            is it easier for white folks to ignore Ron Pau’s racism or is it just a reflection of their own….

            ignore the first one……Ron Paul….reminds me of so many things

            • January 8, 2012 at 10:08 pm

              Before i came to the this blog i was unfamilar with the names of the so-called progressive left…and their blogs….in fact this is the frost ever blog that i came to every day…..

              .but i have had to deal with these same issues…

              when working on voter registration….union organinzing …and political campaigns…i am familiar with the signs…..and no matter how many times i have had to deal with it…it never gets easier…it can be exhausting….trying to maintain unity while dealing with racism….i was never one to sweep it under the rug..
              i was never as eloquent as the President…but i am encouraged by him….

              Presssssssssss ON!!

            • January 8, 2012 at 10:11 pm

              Just IMHO, I don’t think it’s helpful to speculate about stereotypical “white people” and the subject of racism any more than it is to stereotype non-whites about any social matter. I think it might be better to assume the best of folks regardless of color.

      • January 8, 2012 at 9:53 pm

        I agree Chipsticks. He also attack Megan personally rather than just arguing his viewpoint. Te GG supporters are in that defending him. He lost me when he compared BWD to a Nazi propangandist and ABL “rape” story. Lets face it he hates the president and does not like it wheb people support him. The orange satan/ballon juice is full of mean GG defenders.

        • January 8, 2012 at 10:04 pm

          He has an unmistakable brutality about him. He immediately resorts to sliming anyone who dares to question his authority with the nastiest retorts. He’s a very, very mean-spirited person who becomes incensed at the slightest perception of anything short of complete allegiance to this mindset. It’s very, very mal-adjusted and creepy.

  34. January 8, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    Gabby is such an inspiration. Wow, what a beautiful spirit. I’m so happy she has such a wonderful husband by her side.

  35. 123 Diane
    January 8, 2012 at 9:49 pm

    Hi TODers,
    I have been a daily lurker here for a long time. So long in fact that I feel that I know most of you. I never had any intentions to actually post a message, but something has been rolling around in my brain for several days and I can’t shake it. I have been deeply disturbed by the book trashing Michelle Obama. I KNOW that FLOTUS is a strong and confident woman, and I am sure she considers the source and has moved on. However, I put myself in her shoes and I am sure some of these lies must sting. She has worked her heart out for all of us for three years, not counting the crueling campaign to the WH. Is it too much to ask to be treated with respect she has earned and certainly deserves?

    So in honor of her, and to assure her that I have her back and that she has my respect and love, I am donating money to the campaign in increments of $24.00 from now on. This $24.00 is the same number of minutes that Jodi Kanter actually spent at the WH. I am planning to send a different friend a card with each $24 donation explaining that this is my personal monetary message of support for the first lady. I will ask each friend to also send a $24 donation and refrain from buying the book (the approximate value of a hard cover book).

    I am hoping that other people will also do the same. For each $24 donation Michelle will know that there are many who have her back, and are taking the money Jodi Kantor thought to received and sending it were it truly belongs. Imagine the impact if suddenly $24 donations started pouring in from woman who also encouraged their friends to do the same. It is just a thought and I am doing it, but for some reason I felt I had to share this to see if others here felt the same.

    Now that I have gotten that off of my mind, I just want to say how much I love this place and all of you. I may not post again, but I am learning loads from you and I am always here reading your news.

    • January 8, 2012 at 10:05 pm

      “So in honor of her, and to assure her that I have her back and that she has my respect and love, I am donating money to the campaign in increments of $24.00 from now on. This $24.00 is the same number of minutes that Jodi Kanter actually spent at the WH.”

      Diane, what a completely lovely idea. I am so glad you came out of ‘lurkdom’ (!) to share it with us, it’s the best possible way to respond to all of this, thank you SO much.

    • January 8, 2012 at 10:06 pm

      You are the sweetest. Thanks for your kindness and for your generosity toward our FLOTUS. We will always lift her up.

    • January 8, 2012 at 10:09 pm

      What a wonderful idea, Diane. Please come back and share more good thoughts like that. When we all put our minds together we can come up with some pretty fantastic ideas for helping our president and his family. I appreciate you concern for FLOTUS, but I think she has endured so much in her life and triumphed over so many hurdles, that she will take this pettiness in stride. Eleanor Roosevelt got nasty comments all her life, long after Franklin was dead and she had no authority. She said it was just something you had to accept in public life and go on and do your best. It’s a great idea to show our support for Michelle Obama in every way possible even as we trust her to press on with great dignity and grace. She is one very classy lady and we are truly bless to have her in the White House.

    • 127 isonprize
      January 8, 2012 at 10:10 pm

      Diane, do you tweet? If so, TWEET THIS!!! PLEASE!!!! $24 for MIchelle Obama. I love this!! It is people like you, all over the country that will work to re-elect President Obama.

      And if you haven’t already, find your local Obama for America office and volunteer. OR at least, share this WONDERFUL IDEA!!!!!

      Go Diane!!

      • 128 luci1119
        January 9, 2012 at 9:03 am

        *Diane* your comments are so precious and heart felt. i just love the way you think, carry on my Friend, because It really does hurt when people say ugly lying things about our First Family, who are so FAR REMOVED from ugliness and the like. Our First Family are giving their all, to reach back, and help people who are In desperate need. Lord I’m praying to have Mercy on all of your people. I sometimes hang my head with tears, to hear such LIES 🙄 🙄 😦 😦 I don’t like these kinds of rhetorics 😦

    • January 8, 2012 at 10:13 pm

      I love this idea…esp the part about asking friends to donate as well….

      i want to use your idea….

      glad you expressed …..your comments turned a negative into a positive…..

      Pressssssss ON!

    • 130 hopefruit2
      January 8, 2012 at 10:15 pm

      Thanks Diane. This is a really touching post and something that resonates deeply with us. The $24-dollar idea is perfect and an excellent way to show our support for our First Lady. Welcome and hope to see you posting here in the future!!

    • 131 Pamela
      January 8, 2012 at 10:19 pm

      Diane! What an awesome idea, I am IN it! I wrote out a card today, a proper card with a stamp, to FLOTUS, telling her exactly that she is loved and honored, and we have her back! will be donating my $24 tomorrow! Good to see your thoughts here! Keep ’em coming!

    • 132 desertflower
      January 8, 2012 at 10:29 pm

      Welcome, Diane…and what a wonderful, thoughtful, heartfelt idea 🙂 Our First Lady is a strong, caring woman…she leads by example, and genuinely cares for those around her. Don’t worry about her…she will be fine. This idea of yours, is a great idea…thank you for sharing….and I hope that you decide to stay here with all of us. Like Jackie said, when all of us work together, and put our ideas in motion…there is NOTHING we can’t accomplish together! Good on you!

    • January 8, 2012 at 10:46 pm

      That is beyond cool, Diane. Brava.

    • January 9, 2012 at 12:07 am

      Welcome

      With great ideas like this one – please post often.

    • 135 nathkatun7
      January 9, 2012 at 4:52 am

      Diane, Thank you for this wonderful comment and for your principled support of FLOTUS! Please permit me to join you in donating $24.00 on behalf of FLOTUS. As much as I like reading, this is one of the books I will never spend my money on!

  36. 136 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    January 8, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    Museum gets totem pole newly carved in ancient wood

    By Michael E. Ruane, Published: January 7

    Piece by piece, the curls of wood have fallen from the ancient log to the floor at David A. Boxley’s feet.

    Little by little, his adze and knife have carved from the fragrant cedar the image of the eagle, who was saved by the young Indian; the chief whose village was, in turn, saved by the eagle; and the people, who were spared by the cycle of good deeds.

    This week, in the Potomac Atrium of the Smithsonian’s Museum of the American Indian, the renowned 59-year-old Tsimshian totem carver and his son, David R. Boxley, 30, are re-creating the magical story in a 22-foot-long, 2,500-pound pole.

    And in this season of Congressional gridlock and political bitterness, the Boxleys hope the old Northwest fable of gratitude and benevolence may be a public tonic when the pole is raised in the museum a few blocks from the Capitol.

    more—–> http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/museum-gets-totem-pole-newly-carved-in-ancient-wood/2012/01/04/gIQAEE0WhP_story.html

  37. 137 desertflower
    January 8, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    Pat Buchannon is DONE at MSNBC! Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out! Ugly, hateful man.

    http://thinkprogress.org/media/2012/01/08/400173/msnbc-ousts-contributor-pat-buchanan-over-racist-book/

    • 138 isonprize
      January 8, 2012 at 10:12 pm

      I’m scared to ask what took ’em so long? He has said such nasty vile and mean things, I can’t even imagine what he could have done or said that was any worse than stuff he has already done and said…

      • 139 desertflower
        January 8, 2012 at 10:31 pm

        Who knows. I’ve asked myself that question for YEARS! So glad that I don’t have to listen to that poison anymore…when he came on, I always turned off the TV…no place for that kind of ugliness in my life. Toxic.

    • 140 hopefruit2
      January 8, 2012 at 10:12 pm

      No wonder Rachel is doubling down on her Ron Pauling lately. I guess she misses her “Uncle Pat.”

      • 141 desertflower
        January 8, 2012 at 10:33 pm

        I hated when she did that…”Uncle Pat” business…like he didn’t ACTUALLY mean that, or know what he was saying. Bullshit if he didn’t.

  38. 143 desertflower
    January 8, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/01/2012188243939594.html Why all the Neocons will vote for Romney.

    Today, with US troops finally out of Iraq, the selfsame neocons are pushing for war with Iran (the first target proposed in the 2002 letter to Bush).

    Last time they wanted to fight because they claimed, without tangible evidence, that Iraq had WMDs.

    This time they want to fight because they claim, without tangible evidence, that Iran is developing them.

    With even less evidence, they insist that Iran would gladly use a nuclear weapon to destroy Israel even if it meant the destruction of Iran. And they have successfully sold their line to the likely Republican nominee for president.

    Can the same gang fool us twice?

    As MSNBC host Rachel Maddow put it: “With the greatest American failure in American policy hung around their necks, with the Project for a New American Century neocon fantasy a punch line now, Mitt Romney as a presidential candidate has decided to embrace them.”

    It is like a terrible joke.

    The people who helped inflict one of the worst disasters in US history on the American people are back to do it again. And the leading GOP contender for the presidency is following their lead.

  39. January 8, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    Ok, just made my first cup of cappuccino with my new espresso/cappuccino maker. Not bad. A few more tries and I might get it perfect.


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